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| 03:44 | * Francesca | waves |
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| 06:19 | dcook | night all |
| 06:19 | wahanui | goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
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| 06:32 | pablito | hi everyone, I have a problem with the new barcode format for Koha 3.22 |
| 06:33 | I have set the format to be EAN-13, but since I updated to the latest Koha 3.22.3, the format has changed even though the setting is still at EAN-13\ | |
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| 07:25 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:49 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:02 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:14 | gaetan_B | hell |
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| 09:21 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 09:47 | drojf | what is urgent about an image in a koha opac? |
| 09:47 | * drojf | sighs |
| 09:54 | drojf | i wonder if others would like a "if your question is urgent now, you should have asked it yesterday -- free tech support" shirt too |
| 10:02 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 10:02 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 2.0°C (10:50 AM CET on February 18, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:20 | cait | drojf: also missing version and how he added it.... |
| 10:22 | drojf | the more "urgent", the less info in the email. i looked though all mails with "urgent" in the topic from that list wondering if i set a filter to just delete such mails. but there are really urgent things like bugs after upgrades sometimes, so i did not |
| 10:23 | and hi cait | |
| 10:28 | marcelr | Joubu: bug 15809? if I would submit a counter patch, i cannot qa anymore .. |
| 10:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , versions of CGI < 4.08 do not have multi_param |
| 10:29 | Joubu | but I could :) |
| 10:29 | marcelr: I don't like the Koha::CGI module | |
| 10:30 | marcelr | why not? |
| 10:30 | Joubu | and don't understand how you could do without modifying pm files |
| 10:30 | I don't see the point, to create a module, to handle an overwrite | |
| 10:31 | then we will remove this trick around multi_param/param and have Koha::CGI everywhere, for nothing | |
| 10:31 | marcelr | everywhere? |
| 10:31 | wahanui | everywhere is a suburb |
| 10:31 | marcelr | you could remove the call and the module in one run (automatically) |
| 10:32 | i am wondering how many times we really need to silence the warns | |
| 10:34 | Joubu | The solution I suggest seems so easier that I don't want to implement something else |
| 10:34 | marcelr | it is kind of quick and dirty |
| 10:35 | but i understand your point | |
| 10:35 | Joubu | but very efficient |
| 10:35 | and it's what has been done in other projects | |
| 10:35 | marcelr | but it still needs attention for the warn variaable |
| 10:35 | Joubu | the warn var is useless if it's not triggered by older version |
| 10:35 | s | |
| 10:36 | marcelr | if nobody sends another reply, i will have a second look tomorrow |
| 10:37 | they had a chance | |
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| 10:57 | Qasim | hello |
| 10:57 | wahanui | hola, Qasim |
| 10:58 | Qasim | i have same problem |
| 10:58 | my koha overdue first notice in going but other not | |
| 10:59 | any solution | |
| 11:00 | my koha overdue first notice is going but other not | |
| 11:00 | any solution help me thanks | |
| 11:05 | drojf | urgent |
| 11:05 | sorry | |
| 11:16 | Joubu | @later tell rangi could you have a look at the splitter cronjob please? It's not up-to-date at all. Thanks! |
| 11:16 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:16 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 12:51 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 12:54 | LibraryClaire | Hi #koha |
| 13:05 | oleonard | Good morning barton |
| 13:05 | barton | morning oleonard! |
| 13:06 | cait | morning oleonard :) |
| 13:06 | oleonard++ | |
| 13:06 | patches everywhere! | |
| 13:12 | oleonard | But still no emojis as tags. All my efforts are drops in the ocean compared to that. |
| 13:14 | cait | heh |
| 13:23 | oleonard | When using the koha-translate command I get errors, including "Koha directories hierarchy for de-DE must be created first" |
| 13:23 | That doesn't seem like it should happen. Permissions problem perhaps? | |
| 13:23 | cait | hm run it a second time |
| 13:23 | i have seen this... but i think it goes away if you just run it again | |
| 13:23 | oleonard | Same |
| 13:23 | cait | hmmm |
| 13:24 | yeah shoudl not happen i think - this is on master? | |
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| 13:27 | oleonard | I'm trying to install translations in my gitified package installation, and what I recall is that I need to use koha-translate to generate the translations and then copy them to my git directory |
| 13:29 | cait | hmm |
| 13:29 | i am sorry, i never worked with gitified much | |
| 13:34 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:34 | oleonard | |
| 13:34 | wahanui | i guess oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 13:34 | tcohen | that won't work |
| 13:34 | oleonard | Is there a correct way tcohen? |
| 13:34 | tcohen | you need to do it the-old-way |
| 13:34 | drojf | oleonard: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]5-12-03#i_1763107 |
| 13:34 | tcohen | cd misc/translator |
| 13:35 | perl translate install <lang> | |
| 13:35 | drojf | (not sure if it worked back then from the logs) |
| 13:36 | oleonard | Thanks drojf it won't be the last time the irc log proves my memory to be terrible. |
| 13:36 | drojf | oleonard: it happens to me all the time |
| 13:36 | oleonard | I remember yesterday I did some... stuff. |
| 13:36 | tcohen | oleonard, koha-translate will use the packages templates |
| 13:36 | you want to use the git ones | |
| 13:37 | oleonard | Thanks tcohen I'll try that. |
| 13:38 | I wonder if we can use data from the schema to provide autocomplete on preferences which require you to enter table column names? | |
| 13:39 | tcohen | oleonard: have you tried kohadevbox? |
| 13:42 | oleonard | No |
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| 14:35 | CanuckPaul | Just testing a new install of Chatzilla |
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| 14:38 | oleonard | CanuckPaul: Words have appeared on the screen making it look as if you are speaking. Success! |
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| 14:41 | Vera | hello drojf |
| 14:44 | CanuckPaul | Thanks Owen -- I'm a bit of a liddite at this sort of thing... |
| 14:45 | woops - l*u*ddite -- fingers not going yet, it's zero degrees Fahrenheit outside. | |
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| 14:46 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 14:46 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 3.6°C (9:45 AM EST on February 18, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
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| 15:03 | oleonard | sql in cataloguing/editor.pl? Isn't that against coding guidelines? |
| 15:05 | cait | it's not a report... so probabyl yes |
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| 15:22 | cait | gmcharlt: around? |
| 15:22 | gmcharlt | cait: hmm? |
| 15:23 | cait | hi :) |
| 15:23 | LibraryClaire: is having trouble getting into the wiki | |
| 15:23 | i moderated her request - so that shoudl be ok | |
| 15:23 | shoudl the initial password be sent by email? | |
| 15:24 | she tried sending herself a new password, but hasn't received an email | |
| 15:27 | gmcharlt | cait: I checked the wiki's mail logs, and it thinks that it successfully sent the email (about 1.5 hours ago); she should check her spam folder |
| 15:28 | cait | LibraryClaire? |
| 15:28 | can you see which email was used? | |
| 15:28 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 15:28 | LibraryClaire | I checked. Nothing :( |
| 15:34 | gmcharlt | LibraryClaire: may try creating an account with a different email address? |
| 15:34 | LibraryClaire | gmcharlt: will try now |
| 15:37 | gmcharlt: got the email address confirmation straight away, so just waiting for a password | |
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| 15:57 | LibraryClaire | no joy yet, heading off in a mo so will keep an eye out for an email |
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| 16:03 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:37 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:21 | oleonard | Useful? http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14558159879159 |
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| 17:25 | oleonard | The reaction is unanimous! |
| 17:25 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
| 17:25 | * tcohen | likes it |
| 18:11 | pianohacker | fredericd: how is coce pronounced? |
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| 18:50 | oleonard | pianohacker: How does the MARC editor decide which interface to use? |
| 18:51 | pianohacker | oleonard: saved in a cookie; when you click "switch to advanced/basic" it changes the cookie |
| 18:52 | oleonard | Where does that cookie check happen in the code? |
| 18:55 | pianohacker | oleonard: addbiblio.pl just after the get_template_and_user |
| 18:55 | it exploding? | |
| 18:56 | oleonard | No, just thinking about whether it might be useful to offer the user an explicit choice in some cases. |
| 18:57 | Like an "Edit with..." menu on addbooks.pl for instance | |
| 18:59 | Or maybe that's just something which sounds useful because look at it through the eyes of a tester. | |
| 19:00 | http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14558220302326 | |
| 19:00 | pianohacker ^ | |
| 19:01 | pianohacker | hmm |
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| 19:14 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 19:14 | bag | greetings mtj |
| 19:14 | mtompset: | |
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| 19:14 | bag | silly autocorrect |
| 19:14 | mtompset | :) |
| 19:15 | You wouldn't happen to know how to find the first time I actually said something on this IRC channel, would you? | |
| 19:15 | * cait | waves |
| 19:15 | mtompset | Greetings, bag cait :) |
| 19:15 | bag | hi cait |
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| 19:16 | oleonard | mtompset: I'm pretty sure there is a break in the logs somewhere... oftc switch maybe? rangi would know. |
| 19:16 | pianohacker | oleonard: what was that you posted? A screenshot after some firebug monkeying? |
| 19:17 | oleonard | pianohacker: Testing some template changes |
| 19:18 | pianohacker | oleonard: I'm not sure I see the use case immediately but it seems like a reasonable idea |
| 19:32 | oleonard | Is Bug 13871 languishing because of the difficulty in QA'ing it? |
| 19:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13871 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Signed Off , OverDrive message when user authentication fails |
| 19:33 | cait | yes |
| 19:34 | sip patches are a big problem | |
| 19:34 | oleonard | I can imagine. |
| 19:35 | drojf | it would be nice to have something to test that. but i have no idea how to do that |
| 19:35 | cait | i currently have practically no time :( |
| 19:35 | it will hopefully be better in 2 weeks | |
| 19:35 | i hope to try agian to set up a test environment then | |
| 19:35 | drojf | sip, ldap and shibboleth patches tend to lie around for a long time |
| 19:36 | cait | yeah :( |
| 19:36 | not good at all | |
| 19:36 | any ideas are really welcome | |
| 19:36 | drojf | ptfs could send someone to the hackfest to instruct us how to do it ;) |
| 19:40 | is rome and the koha meeting in leipzig at the same time? | |
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| 19:41 | cait | i think so |
| 19:41 | not sure about the days, but it's the same week | |
| 19:42 | drojf | 15/16 is rome. i was asked about 14/15 for a meeting in leipzig so it must at least be close |
| 19:43 | cait | oh? |
| 19:43 | drojf | 15. 11:30--12:30 |
| 19:43 | some katrin posted it to koha-de ;) | |
| 19:43 | cait | oh |
| 19:44 | you confused me :) | |
| 19:44 | drojf | hm? |
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| 19:44 | drojf | i was asked by someone else, not about the koha thingy |
| 19:44 | but i think i prefer rome :P | |
| 19:44 | cait | are you going? :) |
| 19:45 | drojf | i hope to. got to sort things out, but i think it could work |
| 19:45 | cait | a bit envious :) |
| 19:45 | drojf | could have been announced a little earlier… |
| 19:46 | cait | hm i had seen it a bit earlier elsewhere |
| 19:46 | drojf | lots of koha travelling this year |
| 19:46 | cait | :) |
| 19:47 | bag | bug 15809 |
| 19:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , versions of CGI < 4.08 do not have multi_param |
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| 20:02 | mtj | hey #koha |
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| 20:04 | mtj | Joubu 💓 thanks for sorting bug 15840, |
| 20:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15840 major, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Import borrowers tool explodes if userid already exists |
| 20:06 | * mtj | gives cait a 🍪 |
| 20:06 | cait | ? |
| 20:06 | i don't see it :) | |
| 20:06 | pianohacker | cait: you must be hungry |
| 20:07 | mtj | aah, really? my emoji technique needs improving |
| 20:07 | pianohacker | cait: because right now you don't have enough bytes to display that character |
| 20:08 | cait | ? |
| 20:08 | * cait | is hungry for chocolate... but hasn't bought any |
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| 20:33 | mtj | hmm, the emojis show in the irc log... thats nice |
| 20:33 | http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/today | |
| 20:43 | 🚫... 🔨🕑 | |
| 20:44 | ..a 1st attempt at some emoji humor | |
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| 20:51 | kidclamp | hah mtj took me sec there |
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| 21:07 | tcohen | hi |
| 21:08 | has anyone experienced problems with the plugins (like MARC Lint) in 3.20? | |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 21:08 | wahanui | salut, wizzyrea |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | hrm, I haven't tested a plugin in 3.20 |
| 21:08 | but I am going to be doing that very soon I think | |
| 21:08 | what kind of problem? | |
| 21:09 | plack related? | |
| 21:09 | tcohen | nope |
| 21:09 | it is just that it is uploaded, uncompressed, the files are there | |
| 21:09 | but Koha keeps saying No plugins installed | |
| 21:09 | weird | |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | are the permissions correct? |
| 21:09 | tcohen | yes |
| 21:09 | * tcohen | double checks |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | on earlier plugins we had to have a scriptalias in our config |
| 21:10 | to make it work | |
| 21:10 | something like (just a second) | |
| 21:10 | oh, a regular alias | |
| 21:11 | Alias /plugin/ "/var/lib/koha/library/plugins/" | |
| 21:11 | tcohen | isn't that handled by the packageS? |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | it's possible it is now |
| 21:11 | it wasn't when we did this though | |
| 21:12 | 3.16-ish | |
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| 21:12 | tcohen | nope |
| 21:12 | it isn't. | |
| 21:12 | hmpf | |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | just trying to think of all the things we did to make plugins work :) |
| 21:12 | bc I"m sure I've seen your issue before | |
| 21:13 | very frustrating. | |
| 21:18 | kidclamp | tcohen is MARC:Lint installed? |
| 21:19 | last time a plugin refused to appear it was because I didn't have the necessary modules installed | |
| 21:19 | tcohen | oh my |
| 21:19 | :-D | |
| 21:20 | so our plugin system lacks those checks | |
| 21:20 | kidclamp | well, it checks, it just doesnt tell you :-) |
| 21:20 | it just refuses to show the plugin | |
| 21:21 | tcohen | :-P |
| 21:21 | kidclamp | 💩 |
| 21:21 | tcohen | ok, encoding issues |
| 21:21 | and this plugin should definitely skip subfield 9 checks | |
| 21:22 | ok, thanks kidclamp and wizzyrea | |
| 21:22 | kidclamp | np |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | oh did you get it sorteD/ |
| 21:22 | ? | |
| 21:22 | was it the modules or the alias or both? | |
| 21:23 | eythian | Hi |
| 21:23 | wahanui | bidet, eythian |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | hi eythian |
| 21:23 | tcohen | wizzyrea: it was the module |
| 21:23 | eythian | That'll never get old |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
| 21:23 | tcohen | libmarc-lint-perl |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | sweet :) |
| 21:31 | pianohacker | @later tell aleisha Poke about bug 15531; I can't duplicate your test failures :) |
| 21:32 | huginn | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | I bet she's not setting her perl5lib in koha-shell |
| 21:33 | or not using koha-shell | |
| 21:33 | i.e. she's testing against the installed package code instead of the git code. | |
| 21:34 | so naturally the tests would fail | |
| 21:34 | ^ common trap with devbox | |
| 21:34 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: would that cause a test created by the bug to fail? |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 21:34 | pianohacker | ah... |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | we should teach devbox that we should use the /home/vagrant/kohaclone/ for the perl5lib |
| 21:34 | always | |
| 21:38 | https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/issues/88 < I filed a bug, I may get round to fixing it but it probably won't be soon. | |
| 21:38 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: do you work with aleisha? |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | I do |
| 21:39 | * pianohacker | hands wizzyrea an intern-poking stick |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | aleisha doesn't need poking. :) |
| 21:39 | pianohacker | @later tell aleisha wizzyrea thinks it's probably because your PERL5LIB isn't set to /home/vagrant/kohaclone |
| 21:39 | huginn | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | I could be wrong, but it's something that tripped me up a while back. |
| 21:40 | pianohacker | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:40 | thanks much, just saw your bz comment as well | |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | devbox is great for getting going quickly |
| 21:42 | it causes one to need to do some somersaults sometimes to do all the things that need doing. | |
| 21:43 | also currently it's probably better to devbox from my github instead of the origin one, because I've fixed some things that they haven't accepted yet. | |
| 21:43 | (userpermissions.sql not being imported when the web installer isn't run, for example) | |
| 21:44 | pianohacker | My setup is kind of anti-devbox, though that's more out of stubborn habit than anything. I also don't like where Makefile.PL puts things |
| 21:45 | I'm so happy the barrier to Koha dev entry has been lowered so much, it used to be incredibly painful to get an environment set up | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | yeah, gitify was a huge thing |
| 21:50 | even just installing the package and gitifying it | |
| 21:50 | is so much better than the old way | |
| 21:50 | cjh, I miss that guy. | |
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| 21:57 | wizzyrea | eythian too, but at least I still get to talk to him now and again ^.^ |
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| 22:26 | cait | @later tell khall could you check changes to coding guidelines again? |
| 22:26 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:32 | drojf | good night #koha |
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