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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | dcook | I suppose a bare record isn't likely to come up in many searches anyway |
| 00:03 | In theory, we could do that thing that other ILSes do too where a new bib record has a status of "n" and then they age to "c" | |
| 00:04 | And use that for "new records" | |
| 00:04 | wizzyrea | that has potential uses. |
| 00:06 | pianohacker | I always feel weird about using MARC21's features for their intended purpose |
| 00:06 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:06 | Speaking of which, does anyone have any UNIMARC records laying around? | |
| 00:07 | MARCXML preferably | |
| 00:07 | Let's see if the BnF show marc.. | |
| 00:08 | Formatted MARC: http://catalogue.bnf.fr/servle[…]=4&host=catalogue | |
| 00:08 | Who knew that "Intermarc" was a thing? | |
| 00:10 | Actually there must be a BibLibre demo.. | |
| 00:11 | Hmm looks like the leader is the same | |
| 00:11 | Err | |
| 00:11 | When you download a UNIMARC record in Koha, it still uses MARC21 schemas.. I wonder if that's right.. | |
| 00:11 | * dcook | thought that UNIMARC might have a different schema |
| 00:15 | pianohacker | dcook: into a MARC21 install? |
| 00:15 | dcook | Maybe no one uses http://www.bncf.firenze.sbn.it[…]/unimarcslim.html |
| 00:15 | pianohacker: I'm just using BibLibre's demo site | |
| 00:15 | Saved to MARCXML from there | |
| 00:15 | pianohacker | hm |
| 00:15 | dcook | http://demo.biblibre.com/cgi-b[…]?biblionumber=301 |
| 00:15 | Makes sense as MARC::Record assumes the MARC21 MARCXML schema too | |
| 00:15 | pianohacker | that's definitely using a UNIMARC framework |
| 00:16 | dcook | Yeah, I just wonder if Koha uses UNIMARC correctly, but that's waaaaaay none of my business |
| 00:16 | But biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for UNIMARC doesn't touch the leader at all :S | |
| 00:16 | pianohacker | it's barely Koha's business. The UNIMARC stuff doesn't get as much love |
| 00:16 | dcook: could it be in the 100 tag? I know UNIMARC puts a lot of fixed fields in there | |
| 00:17 | dcook | That's what I was wondering, but I don't see them indexing anything for that sort of info |
| 00:17 | Like record type | |
| 00:17 | But surely.. | |
| 00:17 | Maybe that concept doesn't exist in UNIMARC though | |
| 00:18 | I'm reading that UNIMARC has a "label" or leader as well | |
| 00:18 | Oh, and that BnF record had this: | |
| 00:18 | 000 cas 22 3 450 | |
| 00:18 | Although that looks a bit incomplete | |
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| 00:18 | dcook | Even if spaces were accidentally merged |
| 00:19 | Ah, this is the one: http://multimedia.bnf.fr/unima[…]notice-6-2010.pdf | |
| 00:19 | Mathieu Saby linked that | |
| 00:19 | Years ago | |
| 00:20 | Seems like the leader is slightly different in UNIMARC.. | |
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| 01:17 | dcook | Hmm... I might let someone else provide a UNIMARC follow-up... |
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| 01:38 | dcook | At the wrong end of the day in any case |
| 01:57 | Now what do we use for warnings/alerts... | |
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| 02:15 | dcook | It's a shame OpacSuppressionRedirect is named that.. |
| 02:27 | Hmm git bz doesn't seem happy.. | |
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| 03:30 | dcook | Why are we still using biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml... |
| 03:30 | Oh wait, it does have some benefits... | |
| 03:30 | Easier to organize and removes manual work.. | |
| 03:31 | I know tcohen added something to make it easier to add conditions... | |
| 03:31 | bug 14217 | |
| 03:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes |
| 03:32 | dcook | Hmm that's inefficient for what I want to do.. |
| 03:32 | But it should work.. | |
| 03:33 | So that should be in Koha 3.22... | |
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| 03:36 | dcook | Praise be to tcohen! |
| 03:36 | tcohen++ | |
| 03:55 | rangi: Are you still around to answer questions about things for the Academy? | |
| 03:55 | Just wondering if I can add the keyword to some more bugs.. | |
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| 04:20 | dcook | Oh, I forgot it was 2016... |
| 04:20 | Time to start testing once again.. | |
| 04:23 | ibeardslee | heh |
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| 04:23 | dcook | I was so busy in 2015... so I didn't contribute much :/ |
| 04:23 | Of course, I'm ultra busy now... and I'm having a baby... | |
| 04:23 | Well, I'm not having the baby | |
| 04:23 | My wife is having the baby.. | |
| 04:24 | * dcook | would be rather impressed if he were able to give birth himself... his wife would also be thrilled by this prospect |
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| 04:29 | dcook | ICU indexing... you strike again... |
| 04:42 | $*)&%@% | |
| 05:04 | Man... phrases-icu.xml is not in a good way | |
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| 05:49 | dcook | Actually, it's OK I guess.. it just looks weird by comparison |
| 05:49 | And different to CHR of course.. | |
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| 07:04 | ashimema | morning #koha |
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| 07:58 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:58 | wahanui | niihau, alex_a |
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| 08:10 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:10 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
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| 08:19 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 08:31 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:34 | cait | morning all |
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| 08:54 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 08:55 | * cait | waves |
| 08:57 | * LibraryClaire | waves back |
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| 09:05 | * magnuse | waves again |
| 09:08 | LibraryClaire | hey magnuse |
| 09:13 | Joubu | hi |
| 09:13 | wahanui | hi, Joubu |
| 09:14 | * magnuse | wonders if bug 3092 can be closed |
| 09:15 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, rinku7134, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug |
| 09:16 | cait | i never quite understood it |
| 09:18 | * magnuse | neither - and i don't feel tempted to read it all |
| 09:19 | magnuse | comment #2 from jared seems to make sense, though http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=3092#c2 |
| 09:19 | huginn` | 04Bug 3092: normal, P1 - high, ---, rinku7134, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug |
| 09:21 | cait | not sure i am brave enough to close :) |
| 09:23 | it's a bit hard to tell really -it's too big to handle the way it is | |
| 09:26 | * cait | gives up |
| 09:30 | cait | ok, commented... let's see what happens :) |
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| 09:35 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 09:36 | +1'ed | |
| 09:48 | ashimema | anyone else seeing bug 14892 |
| 09:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14892 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Initial checkin of an item to be transferred shows incorrect holding location |
| 09:49 | ashimema | 'tis confusing me and wondered if anyone was already looking at it |
| 09:49 | cait | hm not me |
| 09:49 | we don't have a lot of libraries with multiple branches | |
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| 09:50 | ashimema | thanks cait |
| 09:50 | cait | @later tell khall please take a look at the comments on bug 14694 |
| 09:50 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:32 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 12:12 | magnuse | tjänare andreashm |
| 12:12 | andreashm | tjena magnuse! |
| 12:31 | * cait | waves |
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| 12:48 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:49 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:55 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
| 12:55 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 12:55 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is -0.8°C (7:55 AM EST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 4 am EST Wednesday... |
| 12:56 | oleonard | it's our first real winter weather yet |
| 12:56 | Christmas day felt like spring | |
| 12:57 | cait | super rainy here still |
| 12:59 | LibraryClaire | grey an' 'orrible |
| 12:59 | * cait | nods |
| 12:59 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:59 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 5.5°C (1:59 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:00 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LCY |
| 13:00 | huginn` | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 7.0°C (12:50 PM GMT on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:02 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 13:02 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:10 | andreashm | anyone heard of trouble logging in to Koha (3.22.01) with Safari? It seems to be connected to Java. |
| 13:10 | oleonard | What kind of trouble andreashm, and why do you think it's connected to Java? |
| 13:10 | andreashm | (If the security setting is changed to "Allways allow" in Safari, it works... but that is hardly something that you can require your patrons to do) |
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| 13:11 | oleonard | andreashm: Koha uses JavaScript but not Java. |
| 13:11 | andreashm | it gives a "server is busy" error message |
| 13:13 | it's sometimes possible to log in if Java is disabled at the server, but only sometimes. | |
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| 13:14 | oleonard | andreashm: I suppose if something else on the server is using Java and it's causing a problem? I don't know. |
| 13:15 | andreashm: A server problem would not appear only in one browser. Have you tried another? | |
| 13:15 | andreashm | yup |
| 13:15 | works in chrome and firefox | |
| 13:15 | probably others, I haven't checked. | |
| 13:16 | (It is another Swedish library who are experiencing this problem.) | |
| 13:21 | cait | maybe they mean javascript? |
| 13:21 | magnuse | i have seen some trouble with safari, but i don't remember the details |
| 13:22 | andreashm | cait: possibly |
| 13:23 | but it seems like a strange error, and one that should have appeared sooner if it affected others using 3.22.01 I would think, considering the numbers who use iOS | |
| 13:25 | yeah, my bad, it seems connected to the javascripts. | |
| 13:26 | oleonard | Safari on iOS with content blockers active? |
| 13:27 | andreashm | Safari on both iOS and Mac |
| 13:28 | oleonard | I have successfully logged into a couple of Koha demos with Safari on iOS, but not 3.22.01 specifically. Need more details about the error I think. |
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| 13:30 | andreashm | I can log in to a 3.20.05 with Safari, but not 3.22.01 |
| 13:30 | cait | andreashm: maybe a screenshot? |
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| 13:31 | andreashm | it works if I disable WebGL |
| 13:31 | (or sets it to "Always allow" | |
| 13:37 | cait: yeah, but not that much to see. I log-in page first and then an error message (in Swedish) | |
| 13:42 | magnuse | might still be interesting to see the error message |
| 13:47 | andreashm | "safari cannot open the page because it could not connect to the server" |
| 13:47 | it also works if i disable the pop-up blocker | |
| 13:49 | is there a pop-up when logging in? | |
| 13:49 | magnuse | not with the ordinary login at least. just a regular form |
| 13:52 | andreashm | ok, thanks magnuse |
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| 14:02 | cait | andreashm: there can be a modal ... |
| 14:02 | but that's not really a pop up i thin? | |
| 14:08 | andreashm | there is a modal there? |
| 14:08 | cait | that's login, right? |
| 14:08 | if you don't use cas or ldap i think it's a modal | |
| 14:08 | andreashm | yes |
| 14:08 | cait | hm or shibboleth |
| 14:09 | * ashimema | ears prick up |
| 14:09 | ashimema | shib does modal too |
| 14:09 | cait | ah sorry |
| 14:09 | then it was CAS? I thin for one we moved it back to the normal login page | |
| 14:10 | ashimema | cas and ldap could too without much effort ;) |
| 14:10 | cas | |
| 14:10 | yes | |
| 14:10 | cait | i thik the reasoning was too much text in the modal |
| 14:10 | so it gets too big .) | |
| 14:10 | ashimema | there was a technical reason i seem to remember.. beyond the modal size |
| 14:10 | cait | andreashm: maybe try different ways of loggin in - using the link on top vs. using the "login page" .../cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl |
| 14:10 | ashimema | but yeah.. you are right.. the modal could get a bit big ;) |
| 14:11 | cait | hm maybe something about the redirect? not sure |
| 14:11 | andreashm | thanks cait! |
| 14:11 | searching for modal javascript safari shows some similar issues | |
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| 14:16 | andreashm | something with the bootstrap modal |
| 14:17 | cait | has someone tested the new feature for uploading files to koha by chance? |
| 14:18 | the database structure suggests there is a field for 'owner' | |
| 14:18 | magnuse | nope, but i had a couple of reports about uploading local images not working. have not been able to reproduce yet |
| 14:18 | cait | i just want ti know if ti's uwed and what is in there - ther eis no fk on borrowers |
| 14:19 | if it's used... | |
| 14:19 | i can't type | |
| 14:21 | it looks like the borrowernumber | |
| 14:25 | hah bug 14849 | |
| 14:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Owner should be FK in uploaded_files |
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| 15:37 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15367: Do not display repeatable patron attributes in the batch patron modification <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4c9fd469660e6e5d> |
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| 15:42 | * Robin___ | slaps Robin_ around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 15:47 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15501 - Planned Irregularities are deleted when modifying subscription <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da2d5fefb43a1de35> |
| 15:53 | jajm | fredericd, have you seen my comments on bug 6657 ? |
| 15:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6657 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Making 999 visible in framework duplicates 999 entry and affects index |
| 15:53 | jajm | cc Joubu |
| 15:56 | Joubu | jajm: does it fix the issue? |
| 15:56 | without fredericd's patch? | |
| 15:57 | jajm | Joubu, it fixed it for me at least (i'm testing on 3.18.x) |
| 15:58 | Joubu | jajm: I am not sure it can fix it correctly, it will fix the infinite loop, but not the biblionumber tag issue |
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| 16:00 | jajm | I didn't try to create authorities |
| 16:02 | Joubu, maybe we should do both ($isbiblio param, for loop), I really don't like the 'if' with an empty body :) | |
| 16:03 | Joubu | yes, definitely, the while is bad |
| 16:04 | jajm | ok I'll rewrite my patch |
| 16:07 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15512 - Minor regression caused by Bug 7369 - warn on deleting item not triggered <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]233c099411f5e2e2a> / Bug 15473: Make Koha::Objects->find accepts 0 and '' as a key <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c3b7f3abc3e7e3c4> |
| 16:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:19 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15477: (follow-up) Bug 14100: Better errors handling <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0fe77d7dc16014ca6> / Bug 15487: Fix encoding issue on localization <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]840aea2c2f82ef97c> |
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| 17:10 | Joubu | bye #koha |
| 17:24 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 18:41 | magnuse | @wunder kautokeino |
| 18:41 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Enontekio, Norway is -27.0°C (8:20 PM EET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -34.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:41 | magnuse | @wunder karasjok |
| 18:41 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -23.0°C (6:50 PM CET on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -30.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:45 | bag | magnuse: knuckles |
| 19:30 | druthb | @wunder 77447 |
| 19:30 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Blueberry Farm, Hockley, Texas is 15.8°C (1:30 PM CST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:30 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 19:30 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 16.1°C (1:30 PM CST on January 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:30 | druthb | noticeable difference between home and office--just like fuel prices. :P |
| 19:39 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 19:39 | wahanui | bonjour, magnuse |
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| 19:55 | kathryn | hi everyone :) |
| 19:56 | rangi | morning |
| 20:01 | @later tell dcook you can tag any bugs you like Academy up to and including next friday | |
| 20:01 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:06 | bag | learning about BibFrame from talljoy |
| 20:06 | pretty cool stuff | |
| 20:09 | kathryn | hi bag :) |
| 20:10 | bag | heya kathryn |
| 20:10 | wahanui | kathryn is, like, on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.[…]s720/ROSS9901.JPG |
| 20:10 | kathryn | oh eythian .... |
| 20:11 | seriously, I think it's because he wants me to learn how to tell wahanui to do things | |
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| 20:29 | * cait1 | waves |
| 20:33 | * JesseM | waves back at cait1 |
| 20:33 | JesseM | How are you cait1 |
| 20:34 | cait1 | good :) |
| 20:34 | and you? | |
| 20:34 | JesseM | good as well :) |
| 20:38 | cait1 | excellent :) |
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| 22:51 | eythian | kathryn: :D |
| 22:52 | kathryn | hiiiiii eythian |
| 22:52 | eythian | hello |
| 22:52 | wahanui | bonjour, eythian |
| 23:01 | eythian | kathryn: what's new? |
| 23:01 | wahanui | it has been said that new is ok |
| 23:04 | eythian | oh, it's actually late, I should go to bed. |
| 23:04 | later | |
| 23:05 | kathryn | night eythian - not much new. Well, everything is new for Frida, she has a lot of news :) |
| 23:05 | catch you later | |
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