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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | rocio left #koha | |
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| 00:52 | dcook | Blah, bloody matching rules... |
| 00:53 | @later tell eythian Awesome, although I can't see it changing much :( | |
| 00:53 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:55 | dcook | Ahh maybe it's crashing because of that NorwegianPatronDB thing.. |
| 00:56 | Mmm I don't think so.. | |
| 01:01 | wth... | |
| 01:01 | We're still using ISO Marc in ImportBatch.pm? | |
| 01:05 | So the query is working but something else is failing.. | |
| 01:09 | Required match check fail.. | |
| 01:10 | talljoy joined #koha | |
| 01:11 | talljoy | @later tell khall can you tell me why CIIS has custom code? and why it would impact the serials module and/or the database structure? If you point me to the db corrections needed, I can take a whack at it. RT 30027 |
| 01:11 | huginn | talljoy: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:12 | talljoy | thanks kidclamp for the update on ciis |
| 01:12 | @kidclamp++ | |
| 01:12 | huginn | talljoy: downloading the Perl source |
| 01:12 | rangi | w/w talljoy ? |
| 01:12 | and happy new year | |
| 01:12 | wizzyrea | also hi |
| 01:12 | talljoy | ha! happy new year. |
| 01:12 | Heya wizzyrea | |
| 01:12 | wahanui | i think wizzyrea is so dumb at rewrite rules. |
| 01:12 | wizzyrea | it's true. |
| 01:12 | wahanui | I saw it on Digg! |
| 01:12 | talljoy | pfft |
| 01:13 | i'm on mac and colloquy is so different from pidgin | |
| 01:13 | i get all turned around. like working in another timezone! | |
| 01:13 | wizzyrea | teehee |
| 01:14 | dcook | Nowonder _passes_required_checks doesn't work... it's XML but it thinks it's ISO MARC |
| 01:15 | * dcook | imagines no one must be using match checks or else all their imports must be going badly.. |
| 01:15 | talljoy | i've never found match checks to work. |
| 01:15 | they always just *failed* when i tried to implement. | |
| 01:15 | dcook | Yeah, I think I've found the same, and I've finally be frustrated enough to find out why... hehe |
| 01:16 | talljoy | bless you! |
| 01:16 | i could use matchchecks if they worked! | |
| 01:16 | mighty useful things in migrating data into consortiums | |
| 01:16 | dcook | Yeah, I've been thinking they'd be good |
| 01:16 | talljoy | especially poorly cataloged libraries |
| 01:17 | dcook | Looks like it's still broken in master, so I'll look at sending in a bug report now |
| 01:17 | talljoy | "Why is my star wars DVD on this Hello Kitty record" |
| 01:17 | dcook | While it's all still fresh |
| 01:17 | hehe | |
| 01:17 | talljoy | i dunno....cuz your cataloger is lazy or inept? |
| 01:17 | dcook | Did you see the Hello Kitty Darth Vader? |
| 01:17 | talljoy | no, but i should now!! |
| 01:17 | dcook | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net[…]y-darth-vader.jpg |
| 01:17 | Relevant :D | |
| 01:17 | wizzyrea | ^ this is why your starwars dvd is on your hello kitty record. |
| 01:18 | talljoy | *that* is funny |
| 01:18 | just snorted my coffee | |
| 01:18 | i think we found the cataloger in question. | |
| 01:18 | wizzyrea | this is what happens when you turn up at odd hours :) |
| 01:19 | talljoy | i need to do this more often. |
| 01:19 | this spring, i have to be out an about every night carting teens to sports/evening classes. | |
| 01:19 | they don't drive yet, so i am in full on chauffeur mode. | |
| 01:19 | dcook | Oceania is pretty good value I think :p |
| 01:19 | talljoy | and hanging at the starbucks. :-/ |
| 01:19 | dcook | Driving age is pretty good |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]5CoolStoryBro.gif |
| 01:20 | talljoy | mix bag. they can drive themselves. but then i start to worry |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | sorry that isn't apropos anything |
| 01:20 | dcook | wizzyrea: That's fantastic |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | I just found it funny |
| 01:20 | dcook | talljoy: That's true |
| 01:20 | talljoy | funny tho wizzyrea |
| 01:20 | dcook | I think about some of the stupid things my friends did driving... |
| 01:20 | talljoy | indeed. me too! |
| 01:20 | dcook | I just hope my kids take after me and are awesome drivers :D |
| 01:20 | talljoy | my brothers 'injured' many cars in their misspent youths |
| 01:21 | wizzyrea | http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]Nye122415Stop.gif I have a feeling we've all had this reaction >.> |
| 01:21 | dcook | Ouch |
| 01:21 | wizzyrea: hehehehe | |
| 01:21 | talljoy | daily in my situations. hahaha |
| 01:21 | dcook | I need to save these two for all my internet interactions |
| 01:21 | wizzyrea | http://nerdist.com/bill-nye-re[…]ry=349614#gallery |
| 01:21 | there's a whole series | |
| 01:21 | and they're all pretty good | |
| 01:21 | http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]2415MindBlown.gif | |
| 01:22 | http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]EmailResponse.gif | |
| 01:22 | talljoy | wizzyrea you have just become a hero to my 14 year old |
| 01:22 | he is enjoying the show | |
| 01:22 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 01:22 | http://nerdist.com/wp-content/[…]ye122415Party.gif lulz | |
| 01:24 | talljoy | he just bookmarked these on his phone. |
| 01:24 | wizzyrea | A+ |
| 01:24 | talljoy | i envision a few emails with these embedded. |
| 01:25 | dcook | "1 records not staged because of MARC error" |
| 01:25 | wth does that mean.. | |
| 01:26 | talljoy | now if only neil degrasse tyson would do some clips like that |
| 01:26 | dcook how many records were you trying to upload/stage? | |
| 01:26 | dcook | 1 :/ |
| 01:26 | Can we only upload iso marc? | |
| 01:26 | This was marcxml.. | |
| 01:26 | wizzyrea | therea re some great tyson gifs |
| 01:26 | talljoy | you should be able to xml, don't you just specify the file type? |
| 01:27 | dcook | Nah, there's no type |
| 01:27 | I thought it might be smart enough to tell the difference | |
| 01:27 | wizzyrea | http://24.media.tumblr.com/d56[…]1qbh26io1_500.gif < talljoy |
| 01:27 | talljoy | i just binge watched cosmos over christmas. |
| 01:27 | wizzyrea | http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/98[…]-4f60098236cb.gif |
| 01:27 | talljoy | love that show |
| 01:28 | rangi | dcook: naw its MARC only, not MARCXML |
| 01:28 | you cand do xml via the commandline though | |
| 01:28 | talljoy | ah, that's what i'm thinking of |
| 01:29 | dcook | rangi: That's... interesting |
| 01:29 | Thanks for the head's up | |
| 01:29 | * dcook | would love to refactor a lot of the import code... |
| 01:30 | dcook | I wonder how that factors in with the matcher.. |
| 01:31 | BatchFindDuplicates uses the isomarc... as import_records stores both xml and iso marc... | |
| 01:31 | rangi | the matching will be done on a MARC::Record object |
| 01:31 | we dont try to compare files together | |
| 01:31 | dcook | Well, the MARC::Record is created from iso marc |
| 01:32 | That's the problem in the match checks | |
| 01:32 | It tries to create a MARC::Record from iso but the data is xml | |
| 01:32 | I suppose because it's coming from Zebra | |
| 01:32 | * dcook | looks more at that bit |
| 01:32 | rangi | that would be a trivial fix if that's all it is |
| 01:32 | dcook | No... not Zebra.. |
| 01:32 | That's why I'm hoping to fix it right now :) | |
| 01:33 | The keys of the matches hash are xml... | |
| 01:33 | So yeah it must be because the record from Zebra is XML | |
| 01:34 | Oh my... there's more lower down.. | |
| 01:35 | Hmm new_record_from_zebra makes a lot of assumptions.. | |
| 01:35 | Yeah, this should be a trivial fix | |
| 01:36 | But it would be easy to break again in the future if Zebra were returning something different.. | |
| 01:36 | Nature of the game I guess | |
| 01:38 | And we don't do match checks for authority records... even though you can define them in the matching rules... yikes.. | |
| 01:38 | * dcook | ponders |
| 01:43 | dcook | Oh that's special.. |
| 01:47 | So Matcher::get_matches() takes a MARC::Record... | |
| 01:51 | H'okay... let's try this again | |
| 01:52 | Would love to use Gearman/Minion/Icarus for "Stage MARC records for import"... rather than having Job Status at 0% when it crashes.. | |
| 02:08 | This is so confusing.. | |
| 02:08 | C4::Search::new_record_from_zebra() seems to be returning something bogus.. | |
| 02:09 | Or.. | |
| 02:09 | kidclamp | @wizzyrea++ |
| 02:09 | huginn | kidclamp: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 02:09 | kidclamp | wizzyrea++ |
| 02:10 | dcook | Oh wait, it's probably me being silly.. |
| 02:11 | Yes... definitely me.. | |
| 02:13 | Ugh, there's no easy way to do this efficiently without rewriting heaps of it.. | |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | ugh there's one more polish thing I want to do to 8753 but I'm not fixing any more of it until it's in master. |
| 02:19 | dcook | ^those feels |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | where's my gif for "unreasonable tantrum" |
| 02:20 | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net[…]y-darth-vader.jpg let's just look at hello kitty darth vader again | |
| 02:20 | that fixes everything. | |
| 02:20 | ibeardslee | https://45.media.tumblr.com/82[…]1sia4voo1_400.gif |
| 02:20 | ? | |
| 02:21 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 02:21 | who can be sad looking at the carleton | |
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| 02:42 | bora joined #koha | |
| 02:42 | bora | hi |
| 02:42 | wahanui | que tal, bora |
| 02:43 | dcook | Huzzah. I think I just fixed the match checks |
| 02:43 | For bibs... | |
| 02:43 | wizzyrea | neat! |
| 02:43 | dcook | Fixing them for auth records just requires more work.. |
| 02:44 | And doesn't work anyway so whatever... that can be a separate bug report | |
| 03:07 | Oh, looks like Olli has already done a fix.. | |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea | oh? |
| 03:13 | which bug | |
| 03:18 | Amit_Gupta joined #koha | |
| 03:27 | dcook | @later tell talljoy Olli has already written a fix for the match checks : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12586 |
| 03:27 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:27 | 04Bug 12586: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Record matching rules - Required match checks doesn't work with MARCXML | |
| 03:27 | dcook | wizzyrea^ |
| 03:28 | I signed off his, but added a follow-up | |
| 03:28 | npls joined #koha | |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 03:34 | dcook | Now back to my regular scheduled programming.. |
| 03:35 | Hmm... why's my scheduled programming bad now.. | |
| 03:35 | Huh... now it's fine. Weird. | |
| 03:36 | Francesca joined #koha | |
| 03:36 | dcook | Oh that is cool... |
| 03:37 | So the OAI harvester can pull down small respones in about 2-3 seconds | |
| 03:37 | And I have the importer working every 5 seconds | |
| 03:37 | I have it importing the same record every 5 seconds for debugging purposes... | |
| 03:37 | Went in and changed the title... then it was replaced with an imported version so fast... | |
| 03:38 | Amit_Gupta | hi dcook |
| 03:38 | dcook | yo |
| 03:39 | Oooo match checks are totally what I need too... | |
| 03:39 | Because if I use the 035a to search Identifier-Standard for 123456... | |
| 03:39 | Some other field may have put 123456 into Identifier-Standard | |
| 03:39 | So it doesn't hurt to make sure it actually has a 035a of 123456 in both the source and target... | |
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| 04:13 | dcook | I suppose if you import 3 records every 3 seconds, you'd be able to import those 3 records within 6 seconds... so download and import is 9 seconds for that "batch" |
| 04:14 | Could be faster but that's not necessarily that bad.. | |
| 04:14 | Although you can download 100 records in 5 seconds... | |
| 04:15 | That's about the best download ratio I can get.. | |
| 04:15 | 2 | |
| 04:15 | But that would take 3.3 minutes to import those 100 records... so you'd get a backlog fast if you were downloading a lot of records | |
| 04:15 | But... it would catch up (in theory), so if you were running it often enough... | |
| 04:15 | Your first import would suck but subsequent ones might be fine | |
| 04:17 | But if you had a big dump at 1pm... you would be stuck with your backlog for a while | |
| 04:17 | So updates made upstream wouldn't trickle down until much later than expected.. | |
| 04:18 | ... that sounded less gross when I was typing it | |
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| 05:14 | dcook | fredericd: I don't suppose you're around atm? |
| 05:17 | $AnyEvent::MODEL | |
| 05:17 | That's what I wanted | |
| 05:18 | Damn, it is autodetecting POE... | |
| 05:19 | I guess that's not necessarily a bad thing.. | |
| 05:22 | Hmm... seems ok | |
| 05:28 | Hmm AnyEvent is quite slick | |
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| 06:36 | dcook | It would be interesting if the matching rules let you have > and < instead of just = |
| 06:37 | You might have a match point of 001... | |
| 06:37 | But you want to make sure that the 005 of the incoming record is >= than the existing record... | |
| 06:37 | That might not actually be *that* hard of an enhancement.. | |
| 06:38 | Especially as match checks haven't been working lately anyway.. | |
| 06:38 | I suppose the difference between "eq" and "==" would be annoying.. | |
| 06:40 | I suppose Scalar::Util is in core... so you could use looks_like_number()... | |
| 06:40 | * dcook | thinks this holds up |
| 06:50 | liw | @wunder espoo |
| 06:50 | huginn` | liw: The current temperature in Viherlaakso, Espoo, Finland is -24.3°C (8:45 AM EET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -26.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:50 | eythian | @wunder Amsterdam, nl |
| 06:50 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 5.8°C (7:45 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:55 | eythian | I win 🙂 |
| 06:56 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 06:56 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (5:30 PM AEDT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:56 | dcook | :) |
| 07:23 | I am so confused... | |
| 07:23 | The path sent to IO::File is "/tmp/koha_upload/79f22cc1d09cb6c6f441db3b417bd7d5_z-koha-test.mrc" | |
| 07:23 | But the actual path is "/tmp/systemd-private-628941b8dd1849859e8e745f8ed038ac-apache2.service-TKz6hp/tmp/koha_upload/79f22cc1d09cb6c6f441db3b417bd7d5_z-koha-test.mrc" | |
| 07:27 | Ah, I think I see.. | |
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| 07:36 | dcook | Ah, it's down to /usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service... |
| 07:36 | PrivateTmp | |
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| 07:40 | wilfrid joined #koha | |
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| 07:41 | dcook | Hmm don't see an apache2.service in Debian.. |
| 07:42 | at least not in /lib/systemd/system.. | |
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| 07:47 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:53 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:53 | * dcook | waves and wanders off |
| 07:53 | magnuse | have fun dcook |
| 07:55 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:55 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -13.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:56 | magnuse | @wunder maspalomas |
| 07:56 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
| 07:57 | magnuse | @wunder las palmas |
| 07:57 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:57 | magnuse | @wunder las palmas, spain |
| 07:57 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:57 | magnuse | gah |
| 07:59 | Joubu | hi |
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| 08:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:00 | wahanui | kia ora, alex_a |
| 08:33 | cait joined #koha | |
| 08:33 | * cait | waves |
| 08:34 | cait | happy new year to everyone returning to work today :) |
| 08:34 | @later tell pianohacker maybe i can locate it tonight... probably using other words than we are thinking about :) | |
| 08:34 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:35 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:35 | Francesca joined #koha | |
| 08:38 | cait | hi marcelr - happy new year :) |
| 08:38 | marcelr | :) |
| 08:55 | eythian | Hi marcelr. I'm in your city. We should get a beer or something some time soon. |
| 08:55 | cait | :) |
| 08:56 | eythian: what's the next 'a' museum? | |
| 09:00 | eythian | cait: the Amsterdam Tulip Museum |
| 09:00 | cait | flowers - nice :) |
| 09:00 | eythian | Oddly, it you click the maps link in their website, it takes you to the cheese museum |
| 09:00 | (which is nearby) | |
| 09:00 | cait | lol |
| 09:02 | eythian | I'm skipping the cheese museum, it's apparently more just a shop with the name "museum" in it, and it's not in the source list. |
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| 09:07 | marcelr | hi eythian |
| 09:08 | eythian | Hola |
| 09:08 | wahanui | kia ora, eythian |
| 09:08 | marcelr | eythian: or visit rijks? |
| 09:09 | eythian | "r" is a long way through the alphabet 😉 |
| 09:09 | Do you hang out there outside normal work hours much? | |
| 09:09 | marcelr | not really |
| 09:11 | eythian | Because I'm usually at work during the day. But I will have to arrange something. In the meantime I was thinking a generically social thing ☺ |
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| 09:17 | cait | eythian: what's the source list? |
| 09:17 | * Francesca | waves |
| 09:18 | cait | hi Francesca :) |
| 09:18 | Francesca | hey cait :) hows its going |
| 09:19 | cait | good - happy new year :) |
| 09:19 | how are you doing? big plans for 2016? | |
| 09:21 | Francesca | eh uni stuff |
| 09:21 | catalyst stuff | |
| 09:21 | wahanui | catalyst stuff is all about koha-plackify as such. |
| 09:21 | Francesca | same old same old I guess |
| 09:21 | lol wahanui | |
| 09:21 | cait | wahanui forget catalyst stuff |
| 09:21 | Francesca | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 09:21 | wahanui | cait: I forgot catalyst stuff |
| 09:21 | thanks Francesca :) | |
| 09:21 | Francesca | oh and music stuff |
| 09:22 | eythian | cait: the Wikipedia page |
| 09:22 | cait | same old doesn't sound too bad :) |
| 09:23 | Francesca | no it really isn't :) though hopefully I can actually manage to get a job this year |
| 09:23 | oh I forgot choir stuff | |
| 09:23 | magnuse | @wunder røros |
| 09:23 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -20.0°C (9:50 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:23 | Francesca | though I suppose that falls under music stuff |
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| 09:23 | Francesca | ohh so cold |
| 09:23 | @wunder wlg | |
| 09:23 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 PM NZDT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:23 | magnuse | @wunder kautokeino |
| 09:23 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -37.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -40.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:24 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 09:24 | magnuse | now that is some temperature... |
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| 09:24 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:24 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:25 | LibraryClaire | @wunder LHR |
| 09:25 | huginn` | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 9.0°C (9:20 AM GMT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 28.97 in 981 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:25 | liw | @wunder espoo |
| 09:25 | huginn` | liw: The current temperature in Viherlaakso, Espoo, Finland is -23.5°C (11:22 AM EET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:26 | magnuse | @wunder karasjok |
| 09:26 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -27.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -36.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:26 | magnuse | karasjok had -41.4 last night |
| 09:26 | LibraryClaire | Norway is cold! |
| 09:26 | magnuse | yup |
| 09:27 | Francesca | norway is damn right freezing from what I can see |
| 09:27 | magnuse | i think we are getting some cold winds from siberia these days |
| 09:27 | Francesca | is -41.4 normal for this time of year? |
| 09:28 | magnuse | well, it's extreme, but not unheard of in those places at this time |
| 09:28 | liw | magnuse, yeah, Finland too -- but we're promised a heat wave from the Arctic ocean with temps as high as -15 |
| 09:28 | magnuse | they get that a couple of times a year, i think |
| 09:28 | liw: yay! | |
| 09:28 | * Francesca | cries for all those poor cold cold people |
| 09:29 | LibraryClaire | Apparently we might get some 'Scandinavian air' coming over next week. We might get as low as 0... :O |
| 09:29 | Francesca | I'm glad its summer here |
| 09:29 | and that winters are never that cold | |
| 09:29 | magnuse | Francesca: they are used to it :-) |
| 09:29 | and their houses are built for it | |
| 09:29 | Francesca | luckily |
| 09:30 | cait | @wunder Bodo |
| 09:30 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -13.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:30 | cait | brr. |
| 09:30 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:30 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -13.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:31 | magnuse | the trouble here is the wind. luckily not too much of it today |
| 09:31 | Francesca | now wind issues I can relate too |
| 09:31 | thats a year round issue in weliington | |
| 09:31 | magnuse | forecast says even colder + wind tomorrow = -26 effective temperature |
| 09:31 | Francesca | eeeek |
| 09:31 | * Francesca | shivers just thinking about it |
| 09:31 | LibraryClaire | brrr |
| 09:31 | magnuse | yeah, Bodø has a bad reputation for wind, but Wellington is worse |
| 09:32 | rangi and i found some graphs once that showed way more wind in wellington | |
| 09:32 | Francesca | thats impressive |
| 09:32 | eythian | Heh yeah, people think Amsterdam is windy. Little do they know. |
| 09:32 | LibraryClaire | it's damp air I can't handle, makes everything feel way colder |
| 09:32 | * Francesca | waves at eythian |
| 09:33 | eythian | Hello |
| 09:33 | wahanui | que tal, eythian |
| 09:33 | magnuse | LibraryClaire: yup |
| 09:34 | LibraryClaire | Even though the temp in the UK isn't really that bad by comparison the dampness and wind makes it harder to bear |
| 09:34 | Francesca | hey eythian hows the other side of the world? |
| 09:34 | eythian | A little bit wintery, otherwise pretty nice ☺ |
| 09:35 | Francesca | speaking of wind and weather: http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]ain-for-the-south |
| 09:35 | its supposed to be summer here | |
| 09:37 | eythian | Yeah, was that. We just got down to 2° yesterday, that's been the worst of it ☺ |
| 09:37 | *saw that | |
| 09:38 | Francesca | 2 degrees is very cold by my standards |
| 09:38 | magnuse | Francesca: sounds like fun |
| 09:38 | eythian | I'm from the south, it's not too bad |
| 09:39 | Francesca | yeah fun.. grumpy cats, getting blown around outside |
| 09:39 | still its better than freezing to death | |
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| 09:52 | drojf1 | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:52 | huginn` | drojf1: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is -6.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
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| 10:08 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
| 10:08 | huginn` | ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 7.8°C (10:08 AM GMT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 28.94 in 980 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:10 | cait | morning ashimema :) |
| 10:10 | ashimema | morning |
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| 12:06 | LibraryClaire | hi cait |
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| 12:09 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:10 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
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| 12:19 | Joubu | outch |
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| 12:20 | Joubu | re-outch |
| 12:20 | LibraryClaire | yeah... |
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| 13:10 | tcohen | Joubu: I'm launching the tests alone, just to check. But the server has 2 cores and doesn't seem overloaded |
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| 16:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:14 | pianohacker | @later tell dcook trying to use any op the special "elements zebra::" commands from http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]al-retrieval.html fails for me, though I can dump the indices by just doing "format xml". Any thoughts? |
| 17:14 | huginn` | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:14 | pianohacker | also hello all :) |
| 17:15 | oleonard | Hi pianohacker |
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| 17:41 | eythian | @wunder Amsterdam, nl |
| 17:41 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 7.3°C (6:30 PM CET on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.00 in 982 hPa (Falling). |
| 17:41 | eythian | Drizzle? I should be so lucky. |
| 17:44 | cwitty | Does Circulation/Renew work for anyone else in Koha 3.22.01? |
| 17:44 | I always get: Software error: Can't call method "single" without a package or object reference at /home/admin/git-koha/koha/circ/renew.pl line 57. | |
| 18:13 | pianohacker | cwitty: known (bad) bug, one sec... |
| 18:14 | cwitty: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15462 ; we have a fix, it should be in a bugfix release soonish | |
| 18:14 | huginn` | 04Bug 15462: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Unable to renew books via circ/renew.pl |
| 18:15 | oleonard | Is there a way to cancel a transfer on an item without checking it in? |
| 18:17 | Oh there is a cancel transfer link on the transfers to receive report. I wonder if that does anything to lost statuses. | |
| 18:17 | pianohacker | oleonard: that just links off to returns.pl :/ |
| 18:18 | oleonard | Oh you're right. Boo. |
| 18:19 | cwitty | huginn`: Thanks! |
| 18:19 | huginn` | cwitty: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 18:25 | pianohacker | cwitty: huginn` is a bot, is why he's confused :) |
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| 18:34 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15462 - Unable to renew books via circ/renew.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]603ecd7341826c23c> |
| 18:35 | cwitty | pianohacker: well, now I feel silly :) |
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| 18:38 | * cait | waves |
| 18:38 | pianohacker | cwitty: happens to all of us. wahanui is a bot too, and a rather silly one |
| 18:38 | hi cait | |
| 18:44 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15493: Use the correct CSV profile when exporting records from the export tool <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f1d49eb177732144> |
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| 18:54 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15478 - Update the remaining schema files that do not match the db schema <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f171e740b9c04e72> / Bug 15478 - Checksum mismatch when regenerating schema <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d746e3fcc7e529964> |
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| 19:04 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15511: Fix tabbed display on OPAC patron account summary page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bf93236ec8cf67be2> / Bug 15453: Assign the correct shelfid to the download list links <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c817293eecd9b4672> |
| 19:16 | pianohacker | @later tell Joubu I fixed a tiny issue on bug 14658; I think it's still effectively passed QA, but wanted your go-ahead |
| 19:16 | huginn` | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:24 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15467: If authtypecode is not defined, do not explode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d0ffc4f7d4ec94b2> |
| 19:34 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15412: Enable dropdowns date selector when suspending holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d7294a6ae880d5fc4> / Bug 15466: Do not assume $values_in is a hashref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]41bb10484e38f3ada> | |
| 19:37 | * cait | waves |
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| 20:31 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 20:31 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 08, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | warm, but terrible out. |
| 20:32 | nengard | @weather 78754 |
| 20:32 | huginn` | nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 21.9°C (2:26 PM CST on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | that seems high for january eh |
| 20:35 | nengard | Austin :) |
| 20:35 | It's why I'm here :) | |
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| 20:37 | rangi | morning |
| 20:37 | * cait | puts her QA hat on |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | man hiding those obsolete comments is THE BEST THING EVER. |
| 20:43 | so nice. | |
| 20:43 | bugzilla experience improved greatly. | |
| 20:43 | rangi | yup |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | was that your doing? |
| 20:44 | rangi | jonathan i think |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | joubu++ |
| 20:44 | rangi | or maybe me |
| 20:44 | wahanui | maybe rangi is still here |
| 20:44 | rangi | i dunno |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | rangi++ |
| 20:44 | rangi | i think joubu and julian actually |
| 20:44 | i lose track of things :) | |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | irc regulars? |
| 20:44 | wahanui | i guess irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | jajm++ |
| 20:45 | cait | wizzyrea: the checkbox thing or something automatic i misssed? |
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| 20:45 | wizzyrea | http://i.imgur.com/6dYUBTa.png |
| 20:46 | whatever it was that did this | |
| 20:46 | cait | aah not sure |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | it might even have been gmcharlt... |
| 20:47 | dunno I'd have to go back through and read the list | |
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| 21:30 | cait | pianohacker++ # patience :) |
| 21:31 | talljoy | patience is a virtue..... |
| 21:33 | cait | hi talljoy :) |
| 21:33 | talljoy | hiya cait!! |
| 21:33 | cait | happy new year :) |
| 21:34 | talljoy | thanks! and happy new year to you too! |
| 21:39 | cait | :) |
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| 22:06 | wizzyrea | am i imagining it or is staging marc files for imports crazy slow now? |
| 22:06 | i mean importing a staged file | |
| 22:06 | more testing is required | |
| 22:06 | clearl. | |
| 22:06 | clearly* | |
| 22:07 | importing 500 records used to take 2-5 seconds | |
| 22:07 | and I've already been waiting 30 and it's only half done! | |
| 22:12 | cait | git bz is sleepy too |
| 22:14 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: we've noticed a similar bug in bulkmarcimport.pl; it seems to be caused by the cache-busting code in 11842 |
| 22:14 | bug 11842 | |
| 22:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11842 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, MARC framework editing is broken when memcache is enabled |
| 22:15 | cait | hm still 3 tests failing on jenkins? |
| 22:15 | pianohacker | I think there's stuff in Passed QA to fix that |
| 22:16 | cait | hm not sure, those i knew about were already pushed |
| 22:16 | rangi | pianohacker: i think an if would fix that |
| 22:17 | no point making a cache object if you have caching disabled | |
| 22:17 | pianohacker | rangi: how so? khall and I have been debating possible fixes, as it currently reloads GetMarcStructure every time _get_unlinked_item_subfields is called |
| 22:17 | rangi | yeah thats what it was always doing |
| 22:17 | it was just memoized | |
| 22:18 | so it was fast | |
| 22:18 | but wrong | |
| 22:18 | because it was loading the framework from last week | |
| 22:19 | pianohacker | is there a safe way of re-memoizing it? khall suggested stuffing it in userenv. The speed loss is pretty noticeable for large bulkmarcimports. |
| 22:19 | rangi | no |
| 22:19 | thats the wrong approach | |
| 22:19 | pianohacker | k... |
| 22:19 | rangi | the right approach is to not refetch the framework |
| 22:19 | every time | |
| 22:20 | its a long running scritp, just a local variable will do, if someone changes the framework while you are running an import .. well, its probably better to stick with the one you started with anyway | |
| 22:20 | cait | makes sense |
| 22:20 | wizzyrea | (you can batch modify later) |
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| 22:20 | rangi | the problem with memoize is it's not safe |
| 22:21 | you can't flush it | |
| 22:21 | you can set a timeout | |
| 22:21 | pianohacker | rangi: wouldn't you have to either pass the framework object in all the function calls all the way down to _get_unlinked_item_subfields or stuff it in a global variable (making plack unhappy), then? |
| 22:21 | yeah, we're not thinking memoizing stritcly | |
| 22:22 | rangi | caching is for scalability .. not speed, thats the trick to remember |
| 22:23 | pianohacker: id look into MMAP | |
| 22:24 | http://search.cpan.org/~robm/C[…]Cache/FastMmap.pm | |
| 22:24 | pianohacker | rangi: for large bulkmarcimports, getting the framework out of memcached/fastmmap using Storable is still a pain point |
| 22:24 | Storable is 80% of the runtime in our profiling | |
| 22:25 | rangi | but yes, not regetting it is still the win |
| 22:25 | serialising and deserialising is slow | |
| 22:25 | the db is faster | |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | yup |
| 22:27 | cait | @wuner Konstanz |
| 22:27 | huginn` | cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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| 22:29 | rangi | yep |
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| 22:30 | bag | felt like an earthquake |
| 22:30 | knock on wood | |
| 22:30 | rangi | maybe tidy stuff up to take a hashref instead :) |
| 22:31 | then stuff like this is way less annoying in the future :) | |
| 22:32 | pianohacker | rangi: yup. AddBiblio, blessedly, already does, but ModBiblioMarc and _get_whatever should too |
| 22:32 | rangi | yep |
| 22:34 | the same fix for stuff like search results etc could be done in the future too | |
| 22:34 | theres a lot where we just fetch stuff we just fetch | |
| 22:34 | ed | |
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