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| 01:22 | dcook | 3.8.5? |
| 01:23 | * dcook | actually isn't even going to even |
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| 01:31 | wizzyrea | yeah just don't |
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| 03:21 | Amit_Gupta | chris around? |
| 03:22 | wizzyrea | rangi ^ |
| 03:22 | rangi | for about 8 minutes more yes |
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| 04:39 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha |
| 04:40 | * dcook | wonders how much of Mojolicious has found its way into Koha.. |
| 04:40 | dcook | Hmm the whole thing? |
| 04:41 | I wonder if Mojo::UserAgent is part of that... | |
| 04:41 | Surely it must be | |
| 04:41 | Because apparently Mojo::UserAgent is non-blocking... :D | |
| 04:42 | Or at least can be non-blocking.. | |
| 04:44 | francescam | Mojolicious? |
| 04:44 | dcook | Perl framework |
| 04:44 | It's been added to Koha for the REST stuff | |
| 04:44 | Based on the Catalyst framework | |
| 04:44 | Or rather.. | |
| 04:44 | Written by the guy who wrote Catalyst | |
| 04:44 | Written after he decided that Catalyst had reached a dead end I think? | |
| 04:44 | Or couldn't do what he wanted it to do anymore | |
| 04:45 | I could reeeeally use a non-blocking HTTP user agent | |
| 05:20 | Ahh Mojolicious isn't required anyway.. | |
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| 07:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:59 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:03 | eythian | Hi |
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| 08:32 | francescam | Night #koha |
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| 08:35 | Joubu | hi |
| 08:45 | cait | morning Joubu |
| 08:45 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
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| 08:57 | ashimema | morning |
| 08:57 | * ashimema | is still a tad upset that kohacon coincides with school holidays next year :( |
| 08:59 | Joubu | I am gonna put 1 spoon of 3.8.5, 1 cup of 3.16.42 and a pinch of master |
| 08:59 | in the oven 180°C for 6 months | |
| 08:59 | and you new Koha version is ready | |
| 08:59 | cait | undertsandable :( |
| 08:59 | * cait | is upset for you too |
| 09:00 | cait | Joubu: sounds somehow like a fishy recipe... |
| 09:00 | Joubu | ashimema: you will miss it?? |
| 09:08 | ashimema | yup |
| 09:08 | it's squarely in the middle of school holidays here.. I have a trip to france booked so can't attend | |
| 09:09 | I would guess (but haven't asked yet) that at least one of my colleagues will be in the same position. | |
| 09:09 | and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the other can't make it either.. | |
| 09:09 | so much for sending 3 of us this year! | |
| 09:12 | Joubu | too bad :-( |
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| 09:24 | * magnuse | waves |
| 09:24 | magnuse | ashimema: i suspect there might be flights from france to greece ;-) |
| 09:47 | ashimema | lol.. the other half would kill me magnuse ;) |
| 09:47 | a 7 year old and a 16 month old ;) | |
| 09:48 | at that point | |
| 09:48 | I'm pinning my hopes on Marseille now.. hopefulyl I can get a gaggle of people there.. | |
| 09:48 | though I bet allot of the people I'd like to catch up with won't be at marseille | |
| 09:55 | magnuse | i hope to catch both marseille and thessaloniki |
| 09:56 | but yeah, lots of people will probably only go to the con | |
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| 09:56 | magnuse | ashimema: ooh, you could go to marseille while everyone else is in thessaloniki |
| 09:56 | kia ora cait | |
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| 10:15 | ashimema | hehe |
| 10:16 | It's rangi and tcohen who I really doubt will make Marseilles and I'd miss the most.. not managed to catch up with them in person for ages | |
| 10:16 | oh well.. these things happen.. | |
| 10:17 | Joubu | @later tell khall could you have a look at bug 15391 please? |
| 10:17 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:17 | ashimema | I'll just have to talk the family into a nx holiday next year ;) |
| 10:18 | Joubu | ashimema: the hard part of UK people is to go to the continent, isn't? So if you are already in France, you have done 3/4 of the job :p |
| 10:21 | magnuse | Joubu: that's what i thought too :-) |
| 10:21 | * magnuse | has not been to a kohacon since nz in 2010 :-( |
| 10:24 | ashimema | it's not especially hard to get to the continent.. |
| 10:24 | no harder than moving around on the continent in my experience.. | |
| 10:25 | us brits are used to taking passports with us ;) | |
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| 10:59 | cait | mveron++ |
| 11:02 | mveron | cait :-) |
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| 11:05 | mveron | magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]hacon_Warmup_2016 |
| 11:09 | lunch | |
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| 12:06 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 12:11 | * drojf | tries to make a 3.8 joke |
| 12:12 | drojf | canadians are a race? |
| 12:12 | why do i read this? | |
| 12:13 | cait | canadians are north americans |
| 12:13 | but the user group only accepts proposals from the US (as i understand it) | |
| 12:14 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 12:14 | drojf | i understand the problem (and agree in general). i still think the wording is inappropriate |
| 12:15 | cait | hm probably |
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| 12:42 | cait | bgkriegel++ again - signing off the xss patch |
| 12:50 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:50 | cait | morning tcohen :) |
| 12:51 | tcohen | hi cait! |
| 12:51 | magnuse | bgkriegel++ |
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| 13:12 | * mveron | waves |
| 13:20 | drojf | hi mveron :) |
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| 13:27 | LibraryClaire | afternoon #koha :) |
| 13:31 | magnuse | hiya LibraryClaire |
| 13:32 | LibraryClaire | hi magnuse :) |
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| 14:10 | cait | jajm++ |
| 14:11 | jajm | cait, ? :) |
| 14:11 | cait | timely string freeze :) |
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| 14:15 | jajm | time to translate! :p |
| 14:15 | drojf | noooo |
| 14:17 | cait | yess? |
| 14:17 | he can still push non-string patches | |
| 14:17 | drojf | i mean i dont want to translate. lol |
| 14:17 | cait | rmaints++ btw |
| 14:17 | pretty impressed how fast everyone got started on their new jobs | |
| 14:17 | drojf: what's the status on the performance patches? | |
| 14:18 | some low hanging fruit available? | |
| 14:18 | drojf | jajm: would you consider 15303 for 3.22? it only touches debian scripts and adds a second apache config. or is it too feature-y? |
| 14:18 | cait | bug 15305 |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15305 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, KOHA SIP2 checkout doesn't update of the item holding status |
| 14:18 | cait | bug 15303 |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, In Discussion , Letsencrypt option for Debian package installations |
| 14:21 | drojf | cait: doing migration until friday. then back to the bug tracker :) |
| 14:22 | cait | crossing fingers for the migration then :) |
| 14:22 | drojf | thanks. most of it works fine. got a new version of the data, which should be cleaner now. don't expect any trouble |
| 14:22 | but i'm really tired today | |
| 14:23 | should better not touch it now :D | |
| 14:23 | there is a new harddisk waiting at the office. then i can set up koha with the whole GND and DNB data :D | |
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| 14:24 | cait | ugh? |
| 14:24 | that sounds painful | |
| 14:24 | drojf | why? that sounds great :D |
| 14:24 | cait | ... of course.. it's only a few million records |
| 14:25 | drojf | yes! fun! :) |
| 14:25 | like 20 million maybe | |
| 14:25 | GND is >11 | |
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| 14:41 | cait | mveron: we need kyle to push the patches first i think |
| 14:41 | kyle or bag | |
| 14:41 | jajm | drojf, not sure, but i will take a look ;) |
| 14:42 | cait | drojf: make sure you stop the import times :) |
| 14:48 | mveron | cait: Thanks for the info :-) |
| 14:54 | * mveron | hopes that translatablility bugs will be pushed soon, we have really loads of odd translations. |
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| 15:30 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 15:33 | kidclamp | Hi oleonard |
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| 16:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:32 | oleonard | Wow Bug 15393 has quite a title. |
| 17:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15393 critical, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , I have encountered some bugs while using KOHA. When two or more people are create and send batches at the same time, they get mixed up because they were all using the same batch number at the time but on different computers. How can this error be rectifie |
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| 17:35 | drojf | lol |
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| 18:24 | pianohacker | ashimema++ |
| 18:24 | bug 12216 | |
| 18:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12216 enhancement, P4, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , One should be able to override zebra configuration on a per instance basis |
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| 18:49 | ashimema | wow that's an old one :) |
| 18:50 | but nice to see it going in :) | |
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| 19:05 | pianohacker | ashimema: we just found out it'll make our lives easier, so we're thankful |
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| 19:46 | JesseDhammu | hello i have a problem in my new installation |
| 19:46 | i have done everyting preciesely as mentioned in koha wiki installation document | |
| 19:47 | so problem is my staff client works | |
| 19:47 | but opac dosent show up | |
| 19:47 | its just showing the default apache page "It Works" | |
| 19:52 | drojf | JesseDhammu: is it a local/ip-based installation or did you use domain names? |
| 19:54 | JesseDhammu | local ip |
| 19:54 | ports are open | |
| 19:54 | thats why i can see the default http page of apache on port 80 | |
| 19:54 | drojf | apache has a default page. the easy way is to disable that for a local installation |
| 19:55 | others disagree on that topic ;) | |
| 19:55 | JesseDhammu | but if that is the case how come the admin pannel works on port 8080 |
| 19:55 | ?? | |
| 19:55 | drojf | there is no default page on :8080 |
| 19:55 | JesseDhammu | ok so you mean i need to manually do that .!? |
| 19:56 | drojf | you can do "a2dissite 000-default" (or just default on older systems) |
| 19:56 | and then restart apache | |
| 19:56 | JesseDhammu | i did that while installation ... |
| 19:57 | right now the server is not online .. im at home and that is in the office | |
| 19:57 | drojf | if that worked you would not have a default page running, i guess :D |
| 19:57 | JesseDhammu | so ill try it once i start the server. |
| 19:57 | ill try to do that again | |
| 19:57 | drojf | if you set up a name-based configuration, the default site does not interfere |
| 19:58 | JesseDhammu | but if the problem still presist what could be the next troubleshooting action ..?? |
| 19:58 | no its IP based | |
| 19:58 | coz there is no domain name registered. | |
| 19:58 | so we need to run it locally | |
| 19:59 | drojf | i would not know anything beyond that, because that is the reason you don#t see the opac |
| 20:00 | pianohacker | JesseDhammu: Are you positive you restarted apache after running the a2dissite command? |
| 20:05 | JesseDhammu | pianohacker: yes i did that several times |
| 20:05 | and i also remember disableing the default site | |
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| 20:09 | pianohacker | JesseDhammu: When you get a chance to look at the server, run ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and see if there's anything else in there |
| 20:10 | JesseDhammu | im from India and its 1:39 AM here so ill go to office tomorrow and check that |
| 20:10 | i wonder if anyone will be online by then at this channel | |
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| 20:11 | drojf | there is pretty much always someone online here |
| 20:11 | JesseDhammu | what should this command return. only one enabled site ..? |
| 20:11 | drojf | well on weekends it's less |
| 20:12 | pianohacker | JesseDhammu: yeah, there should only be your Koha site in there |
| 20:12 | * andreashm | waves |
| 20:12 | JesseDhammu | ok ill cheeck |
| 20:13 | thanks | |
| 20:13 | drojf | hi andreashm |
| 20:13 | andreashm | hi drojf! |
| 20:17 | what's up? | |
| 20:19 | drojf | not much over here. had a lot of long days and talked to librarians about koha for hours |
| 20:20 | andreashm | drojf: sounds nice! |
| 20:20 | =) | |
| 20:20 | drojf | it was, but i am a little tired now :) anyway a lot of interest, which is nice |
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| 20:23 | andreashm | drojf: well, lots of interest is always great! =) |
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| 20:25 | * andreashm | has been struggling with matching rules lately. and thinking about whether holdings records in Koha would be a good idea or not. |
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| 20:27 | * cait1 | waves |
| 20:27 | andreashm | hi cait1! |
| 20:27 | cait1 | hi andreashm! |
| 20:27 | andreashm | how's it going? |
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| 20:33 | LibraryClaire | hi cait |
| 20:36 | cait1 | hi LibraryClaire :) |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 20:44 | andreashm | hi wizzyrea! |
| 20:46 | cait1 | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | developer workflow |
| 21:00 | cait1 | developer workflow? |
| 21:00 | dev workflow? | |
| 21:00 | workflow? | |
| 21:00 | hm. | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:10 | eythian | Hi |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | sup |
| 21:11 | eythian | Had beers with work people, on the sneltram home. You know how it is. |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | hehe excellent |
| 21:12 | kathryn | hi eythian and cait1 :) |
| 21:12 | gotta go, Santa is expecting me! | |
| 21:12 | back later :) | |
| 21:12 | cait1 | :) |
| 21:12 | kathryn | he really is. |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | is that a euphemism? |
| 21:13 | >.> | |
| 21:13 | * wizzyrea | is 12 inside |
| 21:15 | eythian | Must be |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | "santa's got a present for you, little girl" eek. |
| 21:17 | kathryn | omg wizzyrea , no. NO. |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:17 | kathryn | later! |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | bye :0 |
| 21:18 | :) | |
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| 21:27 | jrm | hello |
| 21:28 | anyone live in here right now? | |
| 21:28 | cait1 | sure |
| 21:28 | jrm | awesome, I'm having an issue importing patrons into koha |
| 21:29 | cait1 | what's the problem? |
| 21:29 | jrm | out of a list of 3029 patrons i get an error on 715 of them stating cardnumber is not valid cardnumber |
| 21:29 | I have checked and rechecked and cannot seem to find the discrepency | |
| 21:30 | is there a more detailed error report somewhere that I can find that will tell me which cardnumbers are not cardnumbers | |
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| 21:31 | cait1 | hm currently not |
| 21:31 | things you can check: is the cardnumber doubled up? | |
| 21:32 | inside your file? | |
| 21:32 | jrm | nope they are all individual |
| 21:32 | no duplicates | |
| 21:32 | cait1 | do they vary in length? |
| 21:33 | jrm | ranging from patron #2 up to #2697 |
| 21:33 | 2313 of the list import just fine | |
| 21:34 | cait1 | sorry, i don#t understand |
| 21:34 | your cardnumbers are just counted upwards? | |
| 21:34 | 2..2679? | |
| 21:34 | jrm | pretty much with a handful that have been weeded out due to deaths |
| 21:35 | cait1 | there is a pref for cardnumber length - did you set that by chance? |
| 21:35 | jrm | as im typing this out i see a problem |
| 21:36 | cait1 | ah, what's happened? |
| 21:36 | jrm | how can i have 3029 records with my last # being 2679 |
| 21:36 | hmmm | |
| 21:36 | cait1 | oh |
| 21:36 | did you start off with negative values? ;) | |
| 21:36 | jrm | i wonder where the extra 350 come from |
| 21:36 | nope first one is #2 | |
| 21:39 | time to inspect the empty space below the spreadsheet date i guess, see if theres a linguring something somewhere | |
| 21:39 | cait1 | hope you can figure it out |
| 21:41 | jrm | ok another question, when i open my csv file in a text editor, should my last patron record be the last last thing in the file? im going to assume so because i have many many many extra lines of comma's afterward |
| 21:42 | this may be my 750 no cardnumber cardnumbers | |
| 21:42 | cait1 | it might be |
| 21:42 | yes, the last line sould be your last patron | |
| 21:42 | bag | afternoon all (I got some awesome sleep - I slept 16 hours!) |
| 21:42 | cait1 | good to hear :) |
| 21:42 | jrm: often a blank line at the end might also create a false warning | |
| 21:43 | i remember seeing those, so comma lines would do the same i guess | |
| 21:43 | jrm | nice, i hope so! clearing patron list now, going to reupload again and we'll see |
| 21:47 | YAY 100% import this time around | |
| 21:47 | cait1 | :) |
| 21:51 | jrm | i have been slowly trying to transfer eveything over from the ancient spectrum/winnebago system I inherited lol |
| 21:53 | cait1 | sounds like you are making progress :) |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | spectrum/winnebago. |
| 21:54 | I'm so sorry. | |
| 22:00 | cait1: I suspect there's gonna be a lot of stuff like that lists thing in the staff client | |
| 22:03 | cait1 | I think Joubu will be glad for finding it |
| 22:04 | we will just have to poke at this until we stop shaking out bugs :) | |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | yeah |
| 22:08 | bit worried about the staff client though | |
| 22:09 | there are a lot of pages, a lot of conditions. | |
| 22:10 | cait1 | yeah |
| 22:10 | that's why we should push this early | |
| 22:10 | possibly january - befor the new features go in | |
| 22:10 | rangi | i agree |
| 22:10 | cait1 | so we can make use of as much time as possible |
| 22:11 | and poking at it | |
| 22:13 | jrm | ty wizzyrea lol this old system is awful |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | in that case we should do it now |
| 22:14 | jrm | the librarian I'm inhereting it from haas done wonders to clean things up, the previous librarian did not have a clue as to what cataloging even really was |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | that's a familiar situation to me :) |
| 22:14 | cait1 | wizzyrea: maybe fix the known errors first :) |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | idk, I think I'd rather everyone working on top of that than try to do it in parallel. |
| 22:15 | jrm | trying to get winnebago to export material in a format that either koha or even marcedit can understand is becoming a serious pain in my a$$ |
| 22:16 | wizzyrea | I know someone who has exported more than 1 winnebago database |
| 22:16 | (because people will spot bugs when they are trying to do other stuff, is the only reason) | |
| 22:16 | and if they're just testing that, they might not spot them. | |
| 22:17 | cait1 | hm bit worried about your screenshot really... |
| 22:17 | i am on standby to qa it | |
| 22:17 | as soon as people sign it again | |
| 22:17 | i promised Jonathan | |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | yeah it's quite broken, though not entirely non-functional |
| 22:18 | but v sloppy looking | |
| 22:18 | error messages popping up where they shouldn't be, in conditions that don't match up | |
| 22:20 | cait1 | sounds like it might be a general problem |
| 22:20 | lists just got rewritten mostly... let's see what Joubu says tomorrow | |
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| 22:39 | wizzyrea | Huh. We really ought to have a "reviews" or "comments" view for the staff client. I can think of at least one library that would love to be able to add reviews on behalf of borrowers. |
| 22:43 | cait1 | :) |
| 22:47 | bag | hmm that’s a good idea wizzyrea |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | currently you can't do that without logging in as them |
| 22:48 | in the opac | |
| 22:48 | and uh, we don't want to encourage libraries to do that. | |
| 22:48 | bad, mkay. | |
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| 23:00 | dcook | very bad |
| 23:01 | kidclamp | rangi++ |
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| 23:20 | * francesca | waves |
| 23:20 | francesca | I'm not going to be able to get into the office till next week |
| 23:20 | I'm working all day today | |
| 23:26 | wizzyrea | okie dokie |
| 23:29 | francesca | Xmas decorations and cards next week |
| 23:29 | Something to look forward to :-) |
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