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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | wizzyrea | i'm always surprised when there are thunderstorms like that so near the sea |
| 00:00 | I bet you'll get some waterspouts | |
| 00:00 | the entirety of my thunderstorm knowledge is of inland ones | |
| 00:00 | like, way inland. | |
| 00:01 | flyover country inland. | |
| 00:01 | flyover whilst sleeping inland. | |
| 00:01 | boring to look out the window at whilst flying over inland. | |
| 00:08 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:08 | Yeah, the worst storms we got were snow storms | |
| 00:08 | We have a bit of rain right now but not too bad | |
| 00:08 | I think it's mostly hitting right on the coast | |
| 00:09 | I'm about 9km from the coast, so not too bad yet | |
| 00:09 | Well 9km from the east coast | |
| 00:09 | Oh, it's getting a bit heavier | |
| 00:10 | Maybe I should stop talking about it :p | |
| 00:23 | wizzyrea | You are cursing yourself. |
| 00:24 | dcook | Exactly! |
| 00:38 | wizzyrea | http://www.nzherald.co.nz/worl[…]562002&ref=NZH_Tw dcook !!!! |
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| 00:56 | dcook | wizzyrea: Yikes! |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | You went away and then I was scared for you! |
| 00:56 | dcook | Awww |
| 00:56 | That's sweet of you | |
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| 00:56 | dcook | This building is pretty solid. We had medium rain for a few minutes, but it's clear again here |
| 00:56 | Here's hoping my house is still intact... | |
| 00:56 | I'm guessing the building collapses were right on the coast.. :( | |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | eeks. |
| 00:56 | * wizzyrea | hopes not |
| 00:59 | dcook | Looks like another burst is coming as well... http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65152.shtml |
| 01:04 | wizzyrea | it must have been hot-ish, and cold front is coming in? |
| 01:04 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 01:05 | wizzyrea | Winds northeasterly 15 to 20 km/h shifting south to southeasterly 15 to 25 km/h during the afternoon and evening. |
| 01:05 | dcook | That's not too bad |
| 01:05 | wizzyrea | naw, but from the south so probably cold :) |
| 01:05 | cooler | |
| 01:05 | and it's only forecast 20 tomorrow | |
| 01:19 | francescam | Call me behind the times but dcook: just saw the twister news, how are you faring over in Sydney? |
| 01:22 | dcook | francescam: Not too bad here but I'm about 9km from the edge of the coast |
| 01:22 | Thanks for asking :D | |
| 01:23 | rangi | http://blog.aurynn.com/86/contempt-culture <-- good read |
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| 01:30 | francescam | That's a really interesting article |
| 01:31 | dcook | ^ |
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| 01:41 | wizzyrea | <shame> |
| 01:41 | (but seriously, don't do that.) | |
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| 03:28 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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| 06:15 | Nacronic | hello |
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| 06:20 | Nacronic | hello all I have installed koha 3.12.6 and i am running to session time out problem though i have set it to ""120000"" in global preferances |
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| 07:02 | drojf1 | morning #koha |
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| 07:37 | rangi | where does someone even find 3.12.6 ? |
| 07:37 | people are weird | |
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| 07:55 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:04 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:26 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:47 | Joubu | Good morning #koha |
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| 08:59 | ashimema | morning Joubu |
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| 08:59 | ashimema | morning #koha |
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| 09:11 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha :) |
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| 10:34 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 10:34 | hi LibraryClaire :) being curious - where are you from? :) | |
| 10:35 | LibraryClaire | Hi cait :) I'm based in London |
| 10:35 | Joubu | I think arts.ac.uk is a PTFS-E's partner |
| 10:36 | LibraryClaire | Joubu: yes, University of the Arts |
| 10:40 | cait | oh nice :) |
| 10:41 | LibraryClaire | how about you cait? |
| 10:41 | cait | I am in Germany, working for BSZ - another Koha support provider |
| 10:41 | in Konstanz | |
| 10:42 | LibraryClaire | cool! :) |
| 10:42 | brb - meeting :0 | |
| 10:43 | cait | :) |
| 10:45 | ashimema | Joubu.. how did you get arts.ac.uk there? |
| 10:45 | your right.. but I wondered how you could tell from irc | |
| 10:46 | * cait | thinks Joubu is a wizard :P |
| 10:47 | * ashimema | just found: http://www.libraryclaire.co.uk/ |
| 10:47 | ashimema | nice site LibraryClaire |
| 10:51 | liw | ashimema, when someone joines an channel, there's a message such as this: -!- LibraryClaire [~oftc-webi195-195-80-207.arts.ac.uk] has joined #koha |
| 10:51 | depending on the IRC client, you might or mightnot see it (and it can be shown in various ways) | |
| 10:52 | also visible with the IRC command "/wii ashimema" | |
| 10:52 | cait | hm doesn't work for me |
| 10:52 | unknown command | |
| 10:52 | liw | some IRC networks offer "cloaks" which hide teh address the user is coming from |
| 10:52 | cait | maybe depending on the client too? |
| 10:52 | liw | ah, the /wii command may be client specific; I think the general command is /whois |
| 10:53 | ashimema | oh, interesting.. I had no idea you could do that |
| 10:53 | cait | ah thx! |
| 10:53 | ashimema | thanks liw |
| 10:59 | drojf | there is also /whowas if somebody left already |
| 11:09 | LibraryClaire | back - yeah I am just in the web browser, PC here wouldn't let me install a client >:( |
| 11:09 | ashimema: thanks - I haven't put much on the site recently... much in progress :) | |
| 11:12 | Joubu | ashimema: my IRC client displays the ip when someone enters the room |
| 11:12 | ok too late :) | |
| 11:12 | * Joubu | should have backlogged everything before answering |
| 11:13 | ashimema | hehe |
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| 12:15 | xarragon | Is it worth adding tests that calls the OPAC and greps the html output for the expected data? |
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| 12:50 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:57 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:59 | cait | morning tcohen :) |
| 12:59 | tcohen | hi cait :-D |
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| 13:10 | ashimema | 🖒 |
| 13:10 | cait | ashimema: ? |
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| 13:11 | ashimema | wrong channel |
| 13:11 | oops | |
| 13:12 | but for good measure 👍 | |
| 13:12 | cait | not sure what that is you are posting hter |
| 13:12 | * ashimema | likes some of the unicode chars.. thumbs up is nice ;) |
| 13:12 | cait | aah |
| 13:12 | looks like my client fails to show it :) | |
| 13:13 | tcohen | smuxi shows it ok, hi ashimema! |
| 13:13 | ashimema | I is in smuxi too |
| 13:14 | cait | pidgin on windows fails |
| 13:14 | but might be config | |
| 13:14 | oleonard | The first one didn't work but the second one did (in Chatzilla). Looks the same in the log to me too: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2015-12-16 |
| 13:15 | ashimema | both look ok in the log for me ;) |
| 13:15 | browser support also varies I feel | |
| 13:15 | cait | same as oleonard |
| 13:15 | one good, one bad | |
| 13:15 | ashimema | oth are thumbs up.. first one right facing, second one left facing |
| 13:15 | how odd | |
| 13:15 | mwah.. worth knowing though.. | |
| 13:16 | I'll try to remember to use the second one over the first now ;) | |
| 13:16 | oleonard | Yeah the "uni" in "unicode" must not stand for universal. :P |
| 13:17 | ashimema | could be any number of reasons for not displaying.. some font sets just don't include the icons for all characters for example. |
| 13:17 | so may not nesesarily be the browser but the font's it's pulling in from the system ;) | |
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| 14:11 | misilot | question, how would I write a small program that utilizes the synopsis section in http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]bs/check-url.html I keep getting a can't locate C4/URL/Checker.pm Thanks! |
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| 14:20 | ashimema | erm.. |
| 14:20 | I presume this is a program external to Koha? | |
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| 14:20 | ashimema | you'll need to add koha lib to you PERL5LIB or @INC to call the module |
| 14:22 | erm.. | |
| 14:22 | also.. | |
| 14:22 | I don't actually see that module in master.. | |
| 14:24 | ack.. | |
| 14:24 | that's some horrible code.. | |
| 14:24 | the module is embedded within the script! | |
| 14:24 | pass then.. I have no idea how you'd reference it | |
| 14:24 | https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]jobs/check-url.pl | |
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| 14:43 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:43 | Anyone have an idea of how to submit a git-bz patch? | |
| 14:43 | ashimema | Joubu |
| 14:43 | mtompset | Not a koha patch with git-bz, but a patch to git-bz itself. |
| 14:44 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 14:44 | we maintain our own copy in git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git | |
| 14:45 | I 'think' Joubu has some keys to it | |
| 14:45 | or rangi | |
| 14:45 | Joubu | I can push into the contrib repo, not sure I can push into git-bz |
| 14:46 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Here's the git-bz patch" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/224 |
| 14:47 | mtompset | before patch bug 7143 (Marc Véron) blows up |
| 14:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
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| 14:47 | mtompset | after patch, git bz works fine |
| 14:48 | at least the apply... | |
| 14:48 | about to attempt a sign off and attach. :) | |
| 14:49 | ashimema | ooh.. |
| 14:49 | that's the utf8 problem. | |
| 14:49 | awesome.. | |
| 14:49 | I've been meaning to look at that for ages | |
| 14:49 | pop that paste link in a pm to rangi.. i'm sure he'd apply it for you | |
| 14:50 | when he wakes up ;) | |
| 14:51 | @later tell rangi, are you the man with the keys to the git-bz repository.. can we apply http://paste.koha-community.org/224 to fishsoup? | |
| 14:51 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:53 | mtompset | Nope... attach blows up. |
| 14:53 | Now to fix that. | |
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| 15:14 | * magnuse | waves |
| 15:16 | * JesseM | waves back |
| 15:17 | cait | hm i thougt we had it fixed |
| 15:17 | the utf-8 prob | |
| 15:17 | hm maybe a different prob | |
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| 15:25 | mveron | Hi again #koha |
| 15:27 | * magnuse | fears there is no such thing as getting rid of encoding problems once and for alle |
| 15:33 | * mtompset | grins at magnuse. |
| 15:33 | mtompset | Greetings, mveron. |
| 15:33 | Thanks for an excuse to fix utf-8 issues in git-bz. :P | |
| 15:33 | mveron | Hi mtompset |
| 15:34 | mtompset | http://paste.koha-community.org/224 |
| 15:34 | That fixes the apply, so I can apply your patch. :P | |
| 15:34 | mveron | I was reading back... The é in my name? |
| 15:35 | * mveron | was wondering what was blowing up with his name |
| 15:38 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 15:42 | mveron | mtompset: Was the problem related toteh commit message or to tha patch? - I remember thet there were issues with characters like '>' copy/pasted from Koha breadcrumbs |
| 15:42 | to the | |
| 15:45 | mtompset | In A meeting. sorry... 1.25 hours still. |
| 15:45 | Joubu | mtompset: actually you revert a previous change fixing utf8 issues |
| 15:45 | commit 4666a5ae4d8fab588c7481d6d48ff6ea6eee1da1 | |
| 15:45 | mtompset | mveron... tryusing html code for the accent? |
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| 16:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:05 | mveron | mtompset: Patch applied fine here. I changed the commit message to remove the é. |
| 16:05 | mtompset | mveron: That works for the unpatched version. :) |
| 16:05 | mveron | :-) |
| 16:06 | mtompset | signed off. :) |
| 16:08 | BTW, utf_8, Joubu? I think the header should be utf-8. :) | |
| 16:08 | But you are right about the reversion. | |
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| 16:33 | ashimema | @later tell rangi, maybe read the irc backlog first.. more got talked about regarding utf8 on git-bz |
| 16:33 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:51 | K_chris | mveron: I have been testing but 15374 some more. |
| 16:52 | mveron | K_chris: Yes? :-) |
| 16:53 | K_chris | the link you are referring to is for is to /opac-memberentry.pl |
| 16:53 | right? | |
| 16:53 | that's the link you fixed, i think. | |
| 16:54 | mveron | Let me have a look |
| 16:59 | K_chris | i have tested everything on a sandbox (14) except for fines: it doesn't seem that fines (total due) is getting computed. "no data available in table" |
| 17:01 | mveron | K_chris: Yes, it is the link for opac-memberentry.pl |
| 17:02 | * mveron | is checking regarding the fines |
| 17:03 | K_chris | mveron: to test with the fines, I have applying the patch on a local development environment using bz. But I am new to this. |
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| 17:07 | drojf | evening |
| 17:13 | mveron | K_crhis: I added a manual fine o a patron that exceeds the value of syspref OPACFineNoRenewals |
| 17:13 | Hi drojf :-) | |
| 17:13 | K_chris: ^^^ | |
| 17:14 | K_chris: If OPACFineNoRenewals is empty nothing is calculated | |
| 17:19 | * mveron | needs something to eat... |
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| 18:36 | * magnuse | waves again |
| 18:37 | * Kchris | waves |
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| 19:01 | * mveron | waves |
| 19:06 | Kchris | mveron: Testing bug 15374. I did set system preference for OPACFineNoRenewals, but the sandboxes don't seem to total fines... |
| 19:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15374 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Translatability: Fix issues on OPAC summary page |
| 19:07 | mveron | Kchris: What is the value of OPACFineNoRenewals? |
| 19:08 | And how much fines has the patron? | |
| 19:08 | rangi | sup peeps |
| 19:08 | * drojf | peeps |
| 19:09 | Kchris | mveron:OpacFineNoRenewals=100, patron fine=200. It seems there may be a table missing on sandbox??? |
| 19:09 | rangi | drojf: for the record, i think something in berlin before kohacon is a good idea |
| 19:10 | Kchris | Attempting to test on local development environment: Once a patch is applied with via git bz, is there a way to verify that the patch is successfully applied? |
| 19:10 | rangi | Kchris: git log |
| 19:10 | drojf | rangi: woohoo, feedback :) |
| 19:10 | rangi | Kchris: you should see the patch as the top commit |
| 19:11 | mveron | Kchris: If it does not apply you should have a message |
| 19:11 | Kchris | rangi++, mveron++ |
| 19:11 | mveron | drojf:I consider ot travel to Berlin as well... |
| 19:11 | to travel | |
| 19:13 | rangi | drojf: im assuming there are lots of flights and/or trains from berlin to thessaloniki ? |
| 19:13 | Kchris | After applying the patch, is it necessary to restart Apache? |
| 19:13 | rangi | Kchris: no, unless it changes the apache configuration in some way .. however are you running plack? |
| 19:14 | or memcached? | |
| 19:15 | drojf | rangi: i checked two way flights and there were a lot of options. i will set up a wiki page with infos like that now that the first people show interest |
| 19:16 | mveron | drojf++ |
| 19:16 | drojf | i doubt we will max out the connections :) |
| 19:19 | Kchris | rangi: no, I am not running plack or memcached. |
| 19:19 | rangi | Kchris: then there should be nothing persistent (except the data in the database) so you shouldnt need to restart anything |
| 19:21 | hmm 2 days on a train... that might be too long .. flights it is :) | |
| 19:23 | drojf | heh if the view is good from the train? :D |
| 19:24 | best connection from berlin is direct, 2,5h. but some cheapo airline where you have to book everything extra (still the cheapest with all options) | |
| 19:25 | rangi | thats why i normally like trains :) would ge to see slovakia, hungary, serbia etc on the way .. but yeah bit too long |
| 19:28 | drojf | :) |
| 19:28 | you're not here every day, use as much europa as you can :D | |
| 19:28 | *europe | |
| 19:29 | oleonard | So uh... When did Koha get NCIP support? |
| 19:29 | * oleonard | didn't think it had it |
| 19:30 | rangi | it does |
| 19:30 | separately | |
| 19:30 | in a couple of ways | |
| 19:30 | drojf | you can even choose from several, can't you? |
| 19:31 | rangi | http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?[…]ver.git;a=summary <-- this one .. or its a little more up to date in the catalyst repo |
| 19:31 | its a separate project that we should make sure we dont go all SIP on, and fold it into Koha | |
| 19:31 | liw | I noticed that Kohacon's going to be May 30 onwards... I have marked my calendar just in case. Next year's looking a bit potentially gloomy, though. (/me timidly ponders offering a 4-hour Debian packaging tutorial workshop, if there's interest) |
| 19:31 | rangi | or there is the XC NCIP toolkit way, which there is a bug for lemme find it |
| 19:32 | oleonard: afaik MassCat are using the NCIP server stuff Dyrcona and I mostly wrote in production, however there are a couple of branches that need to be reconciled/merged its on my todo list | |
| 19:33 | * oleonard | was surprised to year someone on the ByWater list say Koha had NCIP support. |
| 19:33 | oleonard | I guess I'm just out of the loop |
| 19:33 | drojf | liw: i'd be interested. but you would have to arrange with the catmandu people if they actually come and do a workshop too, so i can do both :) |
| 19:33 | rangi | liw: that sounds great to me! even if it couldnt be at kohacon proper maybe that could be at the preconf thing drojf is organising in berlin |
| 19:34 | oleonard: well, there is an NCIP server that will work with Koha .. is more correct than Koha has NCIP support, the work I did didnt touch Koha itself | |
| 19:34 | drojf | oh right. if that is an option for you… |
| 19:34 | rangi | but you know .. marketing |
| 19:34 | oleonard | Berlin + Thessaloniki would be so great. |
| 19:34 | rangi | oleonard: if bug 13930 is pushed then it would be correct to say Koha supports the xnciptoolkit |
| 19:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13930 enhancement, P3, ---, mail, Needs Signoff , Add supporting service svc/ncip for xnciptoolkit driver |
| 19:35 | liw | rangi, sure. I am basically willing to do that anywhere, any time, as long as it suits my other committments and I can find a way to cover costs (I'd rather not pay for travel, hotels out of my own pocket; alas) |
| 19:35 | magnuse | rangi, oleonard: and what does "support for ncip" mean? it's a big standard |
| 19:36 | rangi | liw: that's totally fair enough, im sure we can rustle up some sponsorship or the like :) |
| 19:36 | magnuse: true .. and it has issues | |
| 19:36 | ncip? | |
| 19:36 | magnuse | it's probably more meanngful to talk about which profiles it supports, like NNCIPP (Norwegian NCIP Profile) |
| 19:36 | * drojf | sighs |
| 19:36 | oleonard | Now I have to think, "What are the reasons for having NCIP that we discussed at the time someone quoted us $50,000 to add NCIP support to Koha?" |
| 19:37 | drojf | we have a great non-ncip proprietary ILL protocol. lol. yay germany |
| 19:37 | rangi | yeah its fair to say, NCIPserver + Koha supports Autographics NCIP |
| 19:37 | currently | |
| 19:37 | vendor embrace and extend ftw!! | |
| 19:37 | magnuse | yay! |
| 19:37 | rangi: you think NCIPServer should be folded into koha? | |
| 19:37 | rangi | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]g-on-ncip-kohails |
| 19:38 | magnuse: hell no | |
| 19:38 | magnuse | ok, misread you then |
| 19:38 | rangi | we made that mistake with SIP |
| 19:38 | magnuse | gotcha |
| 19:38 | rangi | what should be done, is it should be rewritten (not much to do actually) at least the NCIP/ILS/Koha.pm module |
| 19:38 | to use the rest api | |
| 19:38 | then it could sit anywhere | |
| 19:39 | magnuse | but there is some work to be done, if we want it to be a common project for evergreen and koha |
| 19:39 | rangi | yep have to merge the branches .. its not super hard, just time consuming and of course no one is gonna want to pay for that :) |
| 19:39 | drojf | ok awesome, we go from "i wonder if someone will come to berlin" to "omg everyone is coming, i only have room for 20 people" again :D |
| 19:39 | magnuse | Dyrcona changed a lot of the basics, so the work you did does not work any longer, rangi |
| 19:40 | rangi | magnuse: it does on the catalyst repo, but yep, gotta merge those |
| 19:40 | magnuse | from what i have seen it is more a question of rewriting NCIP/ILS/Koha.pm than just merging, but i might have missed something |
| 19:40 | Dyrcona | It still works in the master branch of the "public" working repo. |
| 19:41 | My changes are in user/dyrcona/better_abstraction which ended up becoming the Evergreen driver branch. | |
| 19:41 | rangi | magnuse: yep, that needs to be rewritten to be use the rest api anyway .. then merging the lib/NCIP/Handler stuff .. if that makes sense |
| 19:42 | magnuse | yeah, using the rest api would be super cool, then one ncipserver culd serve many koha instances (i think) |
| 19:43 | rangi | however im pretty sure masscat are running the master branch in production currently (or at least final testing before it's live live) |
| 19:43 | magnuse: yeah that's the plan | |
| 19:44 | Dyrcona | I've been making a lot of changes after going live with the Evergreen NCIP... 'cause y'know...testing never gets everything. |
| 19:44 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:45 | eythian | Hi |
| 19:46 | magnuse | i based my work on nncipp on some branch from Dyrcona - sounds like we might have some work to do... |
| 19:46 | hiya eythian | |
| 19:47 | eythian | Just been to see Star Wars. I recommend it. |
| 19:47 | magnuse | yay |
| 19:47 | eythian | Spoiler: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWSso9GWUAA9SzD.jpg |
| 19:48 | magnuse | is not clicking on that |
| 19:48 | rangi | eythian: taking the kids after work |
| 19:48 | eythian | Sweet. |
| 19:48 | oleonard | Yeah don't make me have to swear off IRC as well as Twitter and Facebook until I get to see it |
| 19:48 | eythian | magnuse: it's not a big spoiler |
| 19:48 | You know you want to | |
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| 19:49 | oleonard | eythian: 3D? |
| 19:49 | eythian | Yep |
| 19:50 | oleonard | Star Wars + 3D feels a little wrong, but I'm old. |
| 19:50 | pianohacker | jeez, eythian, that's a huge spoiler |
| 19:51 | eythian | oleonard: it's not bad actually. |
| 19:51 | * magnuse | will not see anything in 3d |
| 19:52 | eythian | Only a few points where you really notice it, and that's by design, making you want to reach out and grab the thing |
| 19:52 | magnuse: only one eye? | |
| 19:52 | Dyrcona | ha! ha! |
| 19:52 | It's an ugly spoiler at that. :) | |
| 19:53 | drojf | the spoiler is probably more fun than the movie ;) *hides* |
| 19:55 | cait | drojf: i want to come too :) |
| 19:55 | oleonard | See you later, all. When I return I will still have not seen the new Star Wars movie. |
| 19:56 | drojf | cait: yay \o/ |
| 19:57 | cait | just have to see if i can manage - you plan before kohacon right? |
| 19:57 | i will try my best to keep that free | |
| 19:57 | so we would travel sunday to greece for kohacon starting monday then? | |
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| 20:01 | drojf | cait: yes before. i will check what options we have and we will probably all travel together some way on sunday or saturday (might be cheaper/better times). i will gather some info and throw it in the wiki soon |
| 20:02 | also a doodle or dudle or similar about who would come and for how many days | |
| 20:03 | cait | cool |
| 20:03 | it might take me a while to give you a definite answer | |
| 20:03 | but certainly interested! | |
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| 20:07 | francesca | I'm in love with today's Google doodle |
| 20:20 | francesca joined #koha | |
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| 20:29 | barton | hola #koha! |
| 20:30 | pianohacker | /kick barto |
| 20:30 | we don't know you... | |
| 20:30 | barton | the package 'C4::URL::Checker' is defined in misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl. ... how do I call C4::URL::Checker from an external script? |
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| 20:31 | pianohacker | my vote would be to refactor that package into a proper module |
| 20:32 | barton | yeah, mine too, but just for giggles... |
| 20:32 | misilot | i'm trying to just provide an example where the check-url.pl script fails since it doesn't support cookies (so I can submit a ticket asking for cookies) |
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| 20:33 | barton | misilot: actually, I think pianohacker |
| 20:33 | 's right. | |
| 20:34 | You could pretty much just copy misc/cronjobs/check-url.pl to C4/URL/Checker.pm | |
| 20:34 | just for quick and dirty. | |
| 20:34 | pianohacker | yup yup |
| 20:35 | barton | having said that, I know that there is a perl keyword for doing what I first asked for... 'call' maybe? |
| 20:35 | we used to use it for koaversion.pl | |
| 20:35 | kohaversion.pl. thatever. god rest its soul. | |
| 20:37 | pianohacker | oh god yeah you're right... |
| 20:39 | kidclamp | heybywater: can anyone tell me why the edit biblio link here is getting half the title in the biblionumber |
| 20:39 | http://staff.catamount.bywater[…]?q=pope+mussolini | |
| 20:39 | Check edit biblio on first result | |
| 20:39 | pianohacker | kidclamp: wrong channel :) |
| 20:39 | talljoy | heh |
| 20:39 | kidclamp | heh |
| 20:40 | nonthing to see folks | |
| 20:40 | bag | hola |
| 20:41 | * talljoy | takes out her neuralyzer. |
| 20:42 | barton | pianohacker, misilot: I think 'do' is the command I was looking for. ... `perldoc do`, 3rd stanza. |
| 20:42 | bag | this battlestation is operational |
| 20:42 | barton | Commense primary ignition! |
| 20:42 | misilot | barton: no documentation for do |
| 20:43 | barton | perldoc -f do |
| 20:45 | bullwinkle | but bag, that trick *never* works! |
| 20:46 | misilot | ok I have it running except even the example doesn't work (it appears to be checking all the links), i only specified a single url |
| 20:47 | oh i think its because check-url has a line to just run the check | |
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| 21:33 | drojf | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]hacon_Warmup_2016 |
| 21:36 | mveron-away | drojf++ |
| 21:37 | ashimema | drojf, we'd want to send at least one dev too :) |
| 21:37 | atheia or myself likely | |
| 21:37 | drojf++ | |
| 21:38 | drojf | ashimema: awesome! |
| 21:39 | * cait | is installing tomcat and eclipse in windows for distance study |
| 21:39 | cait | ... |
| 21:39 | *sigh* | |
| 21:41 | drojf | cait: that sounds like a lot of things nobody should do |
| 21:41 | cait | yeah.... |
| 21:41 | ashimema | :) |
| 21:41 | barton | cait: the dark side of the source. |
| 21:41 | ashimema | sorry that was meant for drojf |
| 21:42 | I got confused between lines | |
| 21:42 | what seminar were you doing drojf? | |
| 21:42 | Dyrcona | Still, cheers, cait! |
| 21:43 | cait | cheers Dyrcona :) |
| 21:43 | drojf | i did a general overview, 1,5h koha history/development/system requirements and things like that, 1,5h trying to show the actual system (which is way too little time for that) |
| 21:43 | * ashimema | feel he should now find a drink to join in the 'chinking |
| 21:43 | ashimema | cool, sounds fun :) |
| 21:44 | barton | Hey, in my thirst to know all about notices and slips, apparently I missed the expansion of <<items.fine>> ... someone told me about it, but I don't know which notices can use it. |
| 21:44 | Dyrcona | Everyone seems to like to poo-poo Java, but I still like it after all these years. |
| 21:44 | cait | barton: only overdues |
| 21:44 | ashimema | Java ain't terrible.. it's just a bit of a heavy stack. |
| 21:44 | cait | inside of <item> |
| 21:45 | * francesca | doesn't know how to code in java |
| 21:45 | ashimema | that's my opinion on it at least.. |
| 21:45 | cait | or <items>? you know which :) |
| 21:45 | * ashimema | hasn't coded java for at least 5 years now |
| 21:45 | cait | my main problem with java is that i don#t use it :) |
| 21:45 | usually... outside of the distance study | |
| 21:45 | and I did the last courses using it ... years ago | |
| 21:45 | ashimema | but my monitor is propped on 'Developing Java Software - Second Edition' |
| 21:45 | cait | so i have to start all over |
| 21:45 | ashimema | makes a good monitor stand |
| 21:45 | Dyrcona | heh |
| 21:46 | ashimema | I found java to nearly write itself if you have a good editor |
| 21:46 | right.. best go keep the other half company. | |
| 21:46 | more chirstmas present wrapping to do | |
| 21:46 | cait | :) |
| 21:46 | ashimema | have a good evening everyone |
| 21:46 | cait | have fun! |
| 21:46 | Dyrcona | 'night. |
| 21:47 | barton | cait ... I'm not sure that <<items.fine>> is expanded in all notices. |
| 21:47 | owait. I think that we had that discussion... | |
| 21:48 | cait | barton: only in overdues |
| 21:48 | inside the item tag | |
| 21:49 | ashimema | crap.. I thought those dates for kohacon and berlin rang a bell :( |
| 21:49 | they coincide exactly with the school break here | |
| 21:49 | so that kinda counts me out of attending either :'( | |
| 21:51 | * francesca | is playing reciptionist today |
| 21:51 | cait | :( |
| 21:51 | that's bad news | |
| 21:51 | bring the family? greece is nice...i am sure | |
| 21:51 | berlin too | |
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| 21:57 | drojf | ashimema: get a huge appartment together with magnuse+family :) |
| 21:57 | barton | cait: updated http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Specific_Markup . See ISSUESLIP. |
| 22:00 | ashimema | already got a trip to france booked so can't change. |
| 22:02 | barton | ^^ anyone who wants to help out: that wiki page has a few entries that need to be filled in for messages implemented using SendAlerts. I'll owe you an hour of thanks yous :-) |
| 22:02 | ashimema | so annoying, this'll be the third kohacon in a row I'll have missed. |
| 22:02 | rangi | they revoke your membership after 4 |
| 22:02 | so you better watch out | |
| 22:02 | ashimema | haha |
| 22:02 | gmcharlt | tcohen: I'm finding yaz commit f24766f1e9fc to be ... interesting with respect to newish Zebra versions not delivering facets |
| 22:03 | ashimema | marseille hackfest will have to be my koha meetup fix for the year then |
| 22:03 | barton | rangi: hm. I don't think I *am* a member. |
| 22:03 | gmcharlt | upshot - if you're using a Zebra compiled against a newish Yaz... the following no longer works: <retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::*" /> |
| 22:04 | * ashimema | dissapears again.. time to have a drink |
| 22:04 | gmcharlt | however, enumerating each special element set *does* work |
| 22:04 | e.g., | |
| 22:04 | <retrieval syntax="xml" name="zebra::facet::au:0:20" /> | |
| 22:05 | cait | barton: i meant overdue notices |
| 22:05 | inside of <item> </item> | |
| 22:06 | barton | ah. |
| 22:07 | Time to update the wiki :-D | |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | isn't all of that in the manual? |
| 22:07 | cait | some of it is i think, not sure if all |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | and if it isn't, why isn't it |
| 22:07 | drojf | ashimema: berlin may be an option more often. the room is next to my office and we can use it, so i hope there are a few koha people from time to time that do |
| 22:14 | * drojf | lures everybody to berlin |
| 22:17 | cait | hey :) |
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| 22:38 | dcook | I wouldn't be opposed to Berlin, in theory :D |
| 22:41 | drojf | ha! |
| 22:42 | great :) | |
| 22:43 | dcook | Probably not going anywhere until 2017, alas, but keep the ideas and planning coming! |
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| 22:43 | drojf | can't you get stockholm to pay the trip in a sudden oai-pmh twist? :D |
| 22:43 | wizzyrea | creepy chicken? |
| 22:44 | the creepiest chicken? | |
| 22:44 | creepiest chicken? | |
| 22:44 | * drojf | harvests dcook |
| 22:44 | wizzyrea | noooo wahanuiiiii |
| 22:44 | rangi: can you rescue wahanui? | |
| 22:45 | magnuse joined #koha | |
| 22:46 | pianohacker | rangi: no, wahanui, not magnuse |
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| 22:48 | cait | ? |
| 22:50 | francesca | Where has wahanui gone |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | it's ok he'll be back |
| 22:51 | he probably crashed. | |
| 22:51 | dcook | Eeep! I'm being harvested! |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | O.o kinky |
| 22:51 | dcook | And how |
| 22:51 | drojf: Nah, I'll be working non-stop to get it done ;) | |
| 22:51 | Speaking of which... *peaces out to go work on the oai-pmh stuff* | |
| 22:52 | Actually, I lie. I'm going to do some EBSCO stuff first. | |
| 22:52 | drojf | noo, do the cool stuff :P |
| 22:52 | dcook | hehe |
| 22:52 | I am actually quite enjoying it | |
| 22:53 | The daemon is getting to a good place.. | |
| 22:53 | Still planning the importer a bit.. | |
| 22:53 | Actually, where's tcohen when you need him.. | |
| 22:53 | While the daemon should be able to download things quite quickly, the actual import is going to be a bit slow.. | |
| 22:54 | Although of course there are lots of ideas about that.. | |
| 22:54 | Ideally, I'd like to use a Koha API, and just send HTTP requests asynchronously, although I might stress out Apache.. | |
| 22:55 | Thinking of actually making a second daemon.. | |
| 22:55 | Anyone familiar with the new indexer we're using with Zebra? | |
| 22:55 | One daemon to download the record, and one daemon to bind them | |
| 22:55 | Doesn't sound as impressive as LOTR.. | |
| 22:55 | magnuse | pianohacker: ? |
| 22:55 | drojf | lol |
| 22:55 | tcohen probably ;) | |
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| 23:00 | pianohacker | magnuse: don't worry about it |
| 23:02 | dcook | drojf: I'll investigate myself :) |
| 23:02 | I might even put it off as speed might not be a huge problem | |
| 23:02 | One of those optimizations that can possibly wait | |
| 23:02 | francesca | Lunch time |
| 23:02 | dcook | Although if it's around the whole design of the importer... perhaps best to get it right from the start |
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| 23:05 | magnuse | pianohacker: now i worry... |
| 23:05 | (in my sleep) | |
| 23:08 | dcook | Ah, I see... koha-indexer by default just uses rebuild_zebra.pl... it just uses the system "daemon" command to manage it.. |
| 23:10 | Which just exports records from zebra_queue and puts them in a directory for the daemon to deal with.. | |
| 23:11 | I've wondered a bit what would happen if you stuck the same record into the Zebra directory twice... I suppose it would try to process it twice unless it has some extra special handling for that.. | |
| 23:12 | I have been thinking about the downloading daemon just spitting files into a directory and then having an importer daemon slurp them up... | |
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| 23:13 | dcook | In theory, the importer daemon could actually be used for all sorts of records and not just those from the OAI-PMH downloader |
| 23:13 | * drojf | falls in the general bed direction |
| 23:13 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:13 | night drojf | |
| 23:13 | drojf | gnight. see you at 7am maybe ;) |
| 23:14 | dcook | probably :p |
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