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04:36 | ccordova | hi , I have a problem when I think the error is an authority |
04:37 | Can't call method "subfields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 88. | |
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06:44 | * magnuse | waves |
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07:45 | reiveune | hello |
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07:53 | alex_a | bonjour |
08:00 | Joubu | hi #koha |
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08:10 | jajm | hi |
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08:24 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
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08:30 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:45 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
08:45 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
08:45 | magnuse | ...and about 7cm of snow! |
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09:16 | drojf | morning #koha |
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09:36 | rangi | evening |
09:36 | cait | hey rangi |
09:40 | LibraryClaire | hello |
09:41 | * magnuse | waves again |
09:42 | cait | hi LibraryClaire |
10:04 | ashimema | Hello LibraryClaire :) |
10:05 | LibraryClaire | Hi :) |
10:07 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
10:07 | huginn` | ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 6.7°C (10:07 AM GMT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
10:08 | * rangi | goes to sleep |
10:08 | ashimema | wow.. bit late for you rangi |
10:08 | sleep well | |
10:08 | cait | sleep well |
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10:15 | * mveron | waves |
10:17 | cait | quiet monday, everyone still asleep? :) |
10:17 | * Francesca | waves sleepily |
10:17 | mveron | Question: Can I somehow change the order of batches in a bug on BZ? Use case: 3 patches, first one does not apply, I amend and upload it. Do I have the other patches again to get the right order? |
10:17 | Or chan I change sowhow their positions? | |
10:18 | can | |
10:18 | Cait is awake :-) | |
10:19 | cait | i think you have to reattach |
10:19 | all of them | |
10:19 | mveron | Ok, thanks cait |
10:20 | * mveron | is glad that cait can read sentences where a couple of words are missing... |
10:21 | cait | heh :) |
10:22 | and you can read although my strange line breaks | |
10:22 | ... and weird english :) | |
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10:23 | cait | h wilfrid |
10:26 | ashimema | shame you can't reorder patches on bugzilla.. cait's right as far as I know |
10:29 | mveron | Thanks cait and ashimema :-) |
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10:32 | cait | Joubu++ |
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10:38 | ashimema | Joubu++ # For looking into performance gains in a few bugs :) |
10:39 | Joubu | ashimema: hum unfortunately, I have not found something significant |
10:39 | bug 15344 is worth the try | |
10:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15344 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , GetMemberDetails called unecessary |
10:42 | mveron | Is http://translate.koha-community.org/ down? I get a timeout. |
10:43 | drojf | mveron: try again in a few minutes? happens from time to time |
10:43 | ashimema | hmm.. |
10:43 | mveron | thanks drojf :-) |
10:43 | ashimema | I wonder about the importance of backportabilty? |
10:43 | what do people think regarding that.. | |
10:43 | drojf | ashimema: of what? |
10:44 | Joubu | exactly :) same question |
10:44 | ashimema | what is our actual policy on backporting to prior versions of koha anyways.. I always thought it was 'security only' in maintenance releases. |
10:44 | well.. you've kept bug 15344 'light' to make it easier to backport. | |
10:45 | I wonder whether it in fact should be backported at all? | |
10:45 | you've being Joubu.. | |
10:45 | that's not a complaint btw.. just more of a question.. I wonder | |
10:45 | I've never really considered backportability in my patches | |
10:45 | drojf | not read the bug but it sounds more like a fix than a feature from the title, so it's more likely to be backported. i guess |
10:46 | Joubu | ashimema: I was just thinking about an eventuality |
10:46 | ashimema | it's a performance boost drojf |
10:46 | Joubu | if it was an awesome patch and it will make us gain xxx ms / page loaded |
10:46 | drojf | but in general, i dont see a need to consider backportability in general. not a must at least |
10:46 | ashimema | so not a bugfix per say.. but a performance improvement. |
10:46 | drojf | but if possible, nice to have |
10:47 | * ashimema | is part of the 'continuous integration', as few 'maintanence releases' as possible, camp |
10:47 | drojf | in that case it would make sense to have it in older versions, i'd say. so if its an option to keep it easily backportable… nice to consider it, Joubu |
10:47 | ashimema | mmm.. fair enough |
10:48 | Joubu | especially because 3.22 is just out :) |
10:48 | ashimema | New question then.. |
10:48 | you highlight that it 'could be done better' if you weren't concentrating a little on making it backportable.. | |
10:49 | would you consider taking the 'do it better' as a secondary bug on top which was meant for 3.22 only.. | |
10:49 | thus getting the full win for the future? | |
10:50 | Joubu | ashimema: I was just saying that there is a lot to do in this area, you could imagine to refactore some part, improve the fetch of patron infos, etc. |
10:50 | ashimema | indeed. |
10:50 | Joubu | but I have preferred to only replace the call to A with a call to B |
10:51 | for 1/ Readability and 2/ try not to introduce regressions | |
10:51 | ashimema | fair enough |
10:51 | all makes sense | |
10:51 | Joubu | (3/ I am lazy) |
10:54 | ashimema | I wouldn't say your lazy.. |
10:54 | and incremental is good :) | |
10:58 | cait | in general bugs are backported if possible |
10:58 | arg... scrollback broken sec | |
10:59 | ok, now i read it all :) | |
11:02 | mveron | Lunchtime... |
11:18 | cait | ... lunch :) |
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12:45 | tcohen | morning! |
12:45 | cait | morning tcohen :) |
12:46 | tcohen | hi cait :-D |
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12:59 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
13:00 | kidclamp | Hi oleonard |
13:02 | cait | hi oleonard |
13:02 | kidclamp: wnickc? | |
13:02 | kidclamp | that's me! |
13:02 | cait | oh! |
13:03 | kidclamp | pianohacker encouraged more interesting names |
13:03 | cait | but...why? |
13:03 | what does yours meanß | |
13:03 | ? | |
13:03 | kidclamp | it's somehow derived from my last name, clemens |
13:03 | a roommate came up with it | |
13:04 | * oleonard | sticks with uninteresting |
13:04 | cait | :) |
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13:09 | cybermon | hello |
13:10 | LibraryClaire | hi cybermon (and others I missed!) |
13:10 | cybermon | Thanks Claire |
13:10 | I have one question. about zebra indexing | |
13:11 | any one help or advice for me | |
13:12 | cait | cybermon: just ask, if someone knows, they will wake up :) |
13:12 | kidclamp | what's the question cybermon? |
13:13 | cybermon | i just upgraded to koha 3.22.00. but my cyrillic biblio not indexing. only english is working |
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13:14 | cybermon | I need some advice for zebra indexing with Mongolian language. English is works in my server |
13:15 | Cait, Kidclamp both thanks messages | |
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13:18 | kidclamp | np cybermon, unfortunately I am not a zebra expert, esp as regards multi language setup. |
13:19 | cybermon | no problem kidclamp ! I hope that someone know it |
13:20 | kidclamp | if no oneh here does, try the mailing lists |
13:20 | lists? | |
13:20 | mailing list? | |
13:20 | listserv? | |
13:20 | ah, no wahanui | |
13:20 | https://koha-community.org/sup[…]ha-mailing-lists/ | |
13:21 | geek_cl | cybermon, do you check the ZEBRA_LANGUAGE= |
13:21 | :) | |
13:21 | cybermon | not check !, where is it |
13:21 | geek_cl | |
13:24 | geek_cl | cybermon, Possible values are: ZEBRA_LANGUAGE: 'en' | 'es' | 'fr' | 'nb' | 'ru' | 'uk' |
13:24 | is one of yours? | |
13:24 | cybermon | ZEBRA_LANGUAGE: 'en' |
13:24 | geek_cl | there you go |
13:25 | cybermon | how can i multi-language like as 'en' | 'ru' |
13:25 | geek_cl | maybe if you develop that multi-language function ;) |
13:25 | by the moment, just one language is allowed | |
13:26 | cybermon | only for 3.22 |
13:26 | what about 3.18.xxx | |
13:26 | I should develop but I need some experts help :-) | |
13:27 | geek_cl | i don't know, you need to review the 3.18.xxx and see if that functionality is there waiting for you. |
13:28 | also,IMO i don't know if a expert will configure the index in two languages... | |
13:29 | cybermon | Hm |
13:30 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]of_Arabic_records | |
13:30 | I need some thing like as this link guide :-) | |
13:30 | geek_cl | cybermon, cool docs and wiki uh? |
13:31 | keep reading my friend ;=) | |
13:31 | cait | cybermon: i think that configuration is about things like non-sorting words and sorting |
13:31 | you could write your own for a multilang setup maybe | |
13:31 | if you need koha to work with multiple languages and scripts, the more important thing is that you use ICU indexing | |
13:32 | cybermon | I see. how should I change ICU indexing in Ubuntu |
13:32 | cait | i think there is a page for that on the wiki too |
13:33 | the wiki link you pasted above is about activating ICU actually | |
13:41 | cybermon | okay. let me try follow guide |
13:47 | kidclamp | hey koha, is there a way to allow for multiple message types in notice status triggers? Currently print overrides email I know, but I don't know about other combinations. |
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13:47 | kidclamp | just wondering if those shold be radio buttons instead of checkboxxes? |
13:49 | oleonard | I doubt it's a simple as changing the inputs kidclamp |
13:50 | Joubu | you can receive several notices |
13:50 | for the adv notices for instance, you can generate print and/or email and/or sms | |
13:51 | print is sent if the patron does not have email address or sms number | |
13:51 | and if no other notice has been sent | |
13:51 | kidclamp | oleonard - i agree, but one can hope :) |
13:52 | Joubu | so let's say you tick email + sms and the patron does not have an email but the sms notice is generated, the print won't be |
13:52 | kidclamp | Joubu okay, but if you check email/print/sms only print is generated, correct? |
13:52 | Joubu | no, the 3 are generated |
13:53 | kidclamp | for an overdue? |
13:53 | Joubu | yes |
13:53 | kidclamp | hmm..nengard? |
13:53 | Joubu | for notice in advanced and overdues |
13:53 | print is the fallback if no notice has been generated | |
13:54 | kidclamp | was that recent Joubu? I thought they conflicted, at least in 3.18 |
13:54 | happy to be wrong :-) | |
13:54 | Joubu | I'd say it works like that since you can check several transport types |
13:54 | nengard | what's up? |
13:55 | kidclamp | overdue notice status triggers |
13:55 | can you check print/email/sms? opr does print override? | |
13:55 | nengard | Joubu I don't think we've seen all three get generated - only print |
13:55 | it might have been a bug that has since been fixed though | |
13:55 | I'm not sure | |
13:56 | Joubu | that's not the expected behavior |
13:56 | nengard | I know because we told our partners not to check print because that was all that was being generated |
13:56 | we should have someone test on master | |
13:56 | like i said it might have been an old bug and that's just the way i've been training to compensate | |
13:57 | Joubu | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_transport_types |
13:57 | if the wiki is not wrong, that's how it's supposed to work (:D) | |
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13:58 | kidclamp | thanks Joubu nengard |
13:58 | I will try to test and file if behavior differs from wiki | |
13:59 | Joubu | kidclamp: feel free to assign it to me if it exists on master |
13:59 | kidclamp | Joubu++ |
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14:52 | oleonard | http://www.oclc.org/developer/[…]-services.en.html |
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15:02 | mveron | Bug 14015 was a nasty little time consuming thing... |
15:02 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14015 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Checkout: Fix software error if barcode '0' is given |
15:05 | xarragon | Is there a way to to delete a patch on bugzilla? |
15:09 | drojf | xarragon: you can obsolete it. in details>edit |
15:09 | tcohen | jajm: I'm working on your jenkins tasks |
15:09 | xarragon | drojf: Ah, ok. Thanks |
15:11 | jajm | tcohen, need any help ? |
15:11 | tcohen | not yet .-D |
15:11 | just let me know if there's any special need for your maintenance branch regarding jenkins tasks | |
15:13 | ashimema | ooh.. they've announced the xid changes now |
15:14 | * ashimema | got told by oclc about this around a week ago and got told they didn't wan't anyone to know. |
15:14 | ashimema | just after I'd spent a load of time implementing a use of it :( |
15:20 | tcohen | @later tell gmcharlt not urgent, but we could update the master packages |
15:20 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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15:45 | xarragon | drojf: That 'Edit' link was not easy to find. The Wiki actually helped me. |
15:54 | Kchris | I am trying to apply a patch (14945) that requires running updatedatabase.pl, but I don't see any output from "perl installer/.../updatabase.pl. And I don't see any evidence that the database has been updated. Any thoughts? |
15:57 | possibly related: running the webinstaller gives an error message that updatedatabase.pl "can't locate C4/dates.pm" | |
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16:12 | kidclamp | you were right for master Joubu, all messages are queued/sent - but in 3.18 they all go into the print message sent to administrator |
16:15 | reiveune | bye |
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16:17 | kidclamp | Kchris can you do: ls installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate |
16:17 | that should show you if the file is there correctly | |
16:22 | Kchris | kidclamp, bug_14945.sql is there, which i think is what I need for the update. that, and a "README" file. that's it. |
16:23 | kidclamp | that C4/dates still seems odd. If you are gitified and pulled to master it should not be looking for it |
16:24 | afaik anyhow | |
16:30 | Kchris | ok, thanks kidclamp. |
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16:52 | LibraryClaire | bye |
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17:47 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
17:47 | huginn` | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.9°C (2:45 PM ART on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
17:49 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
17:50 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT, Athens, Ohio is 15.0°C (12:00 PM EST on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.52 in 1000 hPa (Rising). |
17:53 | barton | oleonard: on bug 14552, did the page actually print? |
17:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14552 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Warns when printing a list from OPAC |
17:54 | oleonard | I didn't file the bug and haven't tested it barton |
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17:59 | oleonard | Testing now in the staff client I don't see that error in the log. I do see a lot of "CGI::param called in list context from package main line XXX, this can lead to vulnerabilities" |
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18:00 | barton | oleonard, yeah, that's a warning that's generated by the version of CGI.pm in debian jesse. |
18:01 | oleonard | Annoying noise. |
18:02 | barton | ... I couldn't replicate the warnings in 14552 in the OPAC, but it's not printing the page. You win some, you lose some. :-/ |
18:06 | kidclamp | going to lunch |
18:07 | eythian | @wunder Amsterdam, Netherlands |
18:07 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.1°C (6:59 PM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
18:08 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
18:09 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 2.0°C (6:50 PM CET on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
18:09 | drojf | still 5° |
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18:46 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
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18:57 | oleonard | "performed an eager cursor slurp underneath?" You don't say. |
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20:01 | pianohacker | is there some extra step besides changing casAuthentication / casServerUrl that has to be done to get the CAS login option to show up? I'm at a loss |
20:08 | rangi | no idea |
20:08 | but did you eyeball the .tt file to see what the if condition is? | |
20:09 | pianohacker | it seems to be coming from casAuthentication, which is filled in without (afaict) any modification from the syspref. Have restarted memcached |
20:09 | (working on staff side btw | |
20:10 | rangi | hmm unlikely to be memcached then i would have thought, more likely the if in the opac is either wrong, or the variable is not being as a template param |
20:10 | pianohacker | oh, *sigh*. No staff-side CAS on 3.18.08 |
20:10 | rangi | (without looking at the code .. so i might be wild goose chasing you) |
20:11 | ah there you go :) yeah that was 3.20 or maybe 3.22 | |
20:11 | pianohacker | thank goodness for rubber-ducking in #koha or I'd never get anything done. gracias rangi |
20:12 | rangi | :) |
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21:45 | cait | hi #koha :) |
21:58 | eythian | Hi cait |
21:59 | cait | hi eythian |
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23:12 | wizzyrea | hi |
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