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| 04:33 | bora | hello, any one can tell me how to upgrade koha to latest version 3.20? |
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| 04:50 | bora_ | anyone can help me |
| 04:50 | i want to upgrad koha version to the latest v3.20 | |
| 04:50 | please help me ? | |
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| 11:42 | xarragon | Is it possible to hand off a resultset from a dbix::rs::search operation to TT's foreach loop? |
| 11:43 | Or do I have to manually convert it to an array manually? | |
| 11:56 | Ah, I see. I need to use a while loop instead of foreach | |
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| 12:25 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 12:45 | cait | hi drojf :) |
| 12:46 | @later tell tcohen hm spanish bug report - 15356 - could you take a look maybe? | |
| 12:46 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:47 | drojf | hi cait. doing the sunday shift? :) |
| 12:48 | cait | not sure.... but trying to empty out the inboxes :) |
| 12:48 | drojf | we accept spanish bug reports? :P |
| 12:48 | there would be a market for bug reports in germany too, probably | |
| 12:51 | cait | not sur we do, but i thought maybe a nice ' we don't ' in spanish would work better |
| 12:51 | was also not sure where to point htem too to report a problem in spanish if need be | |
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| 13:22 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 13:22 | huginn` | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.2°C (10:20 AM ART on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:22 | tcohen | brrr |
| 13:22 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 13:23 | liw | @wunder torrevieja |
| 13:23 | huginn` | liw: The current temperature in Acequion, Torrevieja, Spain is 17.3°C (2:22 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:23 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 13:23 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (1:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:23 | drojf | i would switch with both of you ;) |
| 13:24 | liw | no need to switch, you can come here, plenty of space in this town |
| 13:24 | also, beaches if you like that kind of thing | |
| 13:26 | drojf | tempting! |
| 13:28 | tcohen | yeah, i'll prepare the asado |
| 13:28 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:28 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 8.0°C (2:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:28 | * liw | wants to visit Friedrichshafen some day, for the Zeppelins |
| 13:29 | cait | :) |
| 13:29 | I went there with eythian - there was an event at the dornier museum and we saw the zeppelin land opposite | |
| 13:29 | they are pretty cool to look at | |
| 13:29 | youcan also see them fly around here all the time | |
| 14:08 | tcohen | Joubu: I discovered why i introduce that weird hidden character on this damn OS |
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| 16:15 | eythian | liw: yeah, it was pretty cool |
| 16:17 | * cait | waves |
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| 16:38 | liw | eythian, I envy you! |
| 16:39 | eythian | Didn't go for a ride in one as it was pretty expensive. Who knows, maybe next summer ☺ |
| 16:40 | cait | :) |
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| 16:51 | liw | eythian, :) |
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| 18:30 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 18:30 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:31 | eythian | Chilly |
| 18:31 | @wunder amsterdam | |
| 18:31 | huginn` | eythian: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:31 | eythian | ... |
| 18:32 | @wunder amsterdam, netherlands | |
| 18:32 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 7.2°C (7:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:32 | eythian | That's not the closest location to pull data from, I'd have thought |
| 18:53 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:53 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:53 | cait | hm |
| 18:53 | weird place heretoo | |
| 18:54 | * magnuse | high-fives cait |
| 18:54 | cait | :) |
| 18:54 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germanxy |
| 18:54 | huginn` | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 18:54 | drojf | heh |
| 18:55 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 18:55 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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| 19:00 | eythian | cait: it must take the latest nearby or something, given you've had two different places. |
| 19:00 | cait | hm not really 2 different probably |
| 19:00 | eythian | drojf: you should visit Amsterdam, it's not that cold |
| 19:00 | cait: they have different names | |
| 19:01 | cait | eythian: but that one was completely new and it's not as close as others it usually shows |
| 19:01 | saint gallen-altenrhein? | |
| 19:01 | ah. and Friedrichshafen | |
| 19:01 | eythian | Yeah |
| 19:01 | cait | both are a unusual |
| 19:01 | drojf | eythian: not sure if i'd travel for 1° vs 7° ;) |
| 19:01 | cait | maybe they changed something? |
| 19:01 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 19:01 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:02 | eythian | Right, which is why I suspect it's the latest result |
| 19:02 | drojf: time to find out for sure! | |
| 19:05 | drojf | true :D don't think this year has time left for me to travel. but i'd love to come visit in 2016 |
| 19:06 | it will be cold enough to test for quite a while :P | |
| 19:08 | eythian | Yeah. I'm hoping to get to Norway between Christmas and new year's roughly. That'll be good and cold. |
| 19:08 | drojf | oh nice! |
| 19:08 | eythian | Probably should buy a scarf. |
| 19:08 | drojf | where do you wanna go? |
| 19:08 | eythian | A uni friend lives about an hour by bus out of Oslo. |
| 19:09 | May have to see it magnuse is free too ☺ | |
| 19:11 | (my current boots have pop out spikes for ice, I need a chance to test them out. Dunno how I found them in Wellington, it never freezes there.) | |
| 19:12 | Suppose they'd also be good for muddy bush tracks | |
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| 19:23 | rangi | morning |
| 19:24 | cdickinson_ | well, I guess I forgot to turn off my computer at home |
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| 19:45 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 19:45 | @wunder Allschwil | |
| 19:45 | huginn` | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.0°C (8:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:46 | rangi | hi mveron |
| 19:46 | mveron | Hi rangi |
| 19:46 | :-) | |
| 19:46 | * mveron | is hunting down translation issues... |
| 19:46 | rangi | always fun :) |
| 19:47 | cait | he is on a mission :) |
| 19:47 | mveron | Yes indeed. Sometimes translations sound lik done ba a robot... |
| 19:48 | cait: Yes, we cant sell a ILS with odd translations to schools :-) | |
| 19:51 | rangi | eythian: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[…]2157659970319023/ |
| 19:52 | eythian | Shut up 😉 |
| 19:52 | rangi | hehe |
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| 20:12 | wizzyrea | hi |
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| 20:21 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 20:21 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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| 20:30 | eythian | Hi wizzyrea |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | ^.^ hi |
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| 20:38 | xarragon | Am I really supposed to hand-code and hand-sanitize form field input? Or are we using some sort of framework to handle that? |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | gonna have to be specific about the context there |
| 20:40 | which form field, where | |
| 20:42 | cait1 | there is some javascript library to use client side I think - for required fields and similar (and that answremight not make sense because context :) ) |
| 21:01 | xarragon | wizzyrea: I am adding a new feature to Koha, some of the data is edited in a form. I based it off the news script. |
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| 21:02 | xarragon | And I need to perform some massaging of the data, null value in the form is an empty string, but should be NULL in the database. Thus I need to check the input and convert it.. |
| 21:03 | And I am wondering if that is the right way, or should I change the DB schema.. or use something Like HTML::FormHandler? | |
| 21:03 | drojf | evening |
| 21:04 | xarragon | drojf: Good evening. |
| 21:06 | drojf | hi xarragon |
| 21:08 | rangi: are you taking over ES integration from eythian? i think i read that somewhere, but maybe i made it up :D | |
| 21:09 | rangi | yep, for the most part |
| 21:14 | drojf | rangi: i can hardly resist doing a proof of concept for fulltext search, now that we have file upload and will get ES. i tend towards a separate index, not stuff it into the biblio record. any ideas against or in favour of that? |
| 21:14 | jcamins | drojf: I recommend using Solr. |
| 21:15 | cait1 | ? |
| 21:15 | drojf | jcamins: two gateways to lucene on the same server? |
| 21:17 | rangi | drojf: separate ES index is how I would do it |
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| 21:17 | rangi | drojf: same index for mixing metadata ... but splitting metadata and data into different indices makes sense to me |
| 21:18 | drojf | rangi: thanks. thats how i started too, then i was wondering if i was just complicating things |
| 21:18 | jcamins | drojf: oops, sorry, I didn't finish my thought. |
| 21:18 | cait1 | is there a wayto combine indexes for searching in ES? |
| 21:18 | jcamins | drojf: and also perl-lucene and xalan. |
| 21:18 | And sphinx. | |
| 21:18 | cait1 | hm I think that's what sharding does in solr? |
| 21:18 | jcamins | And... ummm... |
| 21:19 | I have only proposed five full-text search engines so far, and I might've made up one of them. Surely I can do better. | |
| 21:19 | rangi | xapian jcamins |
| 21:19 | drojf | its one of several "todo under the christmas tree while i am not eating" projects. there won't be much time without me eating ;) |
| 21:19 | jcamins | rangi: drat, I meant xapian not xalan, didn't I? |
| 21:20 | Oops. | |
| 21:20 | swish-e! | |
| 21:20 | drojf: so, yeah, I recommend using all of those for maximum parallelisation. | |
| 21:21 | drojf | jcamins: sounds great, will check it on the pi zero |
| 21:23 | one of them per search engine. cloud! | |
| 21:24 | eythian: trains to amsterdam start at 39€. that's not too bad | |
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| 21:25 | cait1 | lucy? |
| 21:25 | i just like the name :) | |
| 21:42 | eythian | drojf: it's all a pretty small place really. |
| 21:44 | I'd be inclined to put content for full text search into the regular index, but perhaps not search it by default, as it'll cause prioritisation problems with just bibliographic records possibly. | |
| 21:45 | drojf | i would have a separate fulltext search for now. we have metadata for a reason, nobody wants to read the whole contents by default to find whats relevant ;) |
| 21:48 | i don't know what a lot of uploaded files and search thereof will actually do to koha. it's not supposed to be a repository. but with recent development it seems not to be a huge step to try… well. i'm curious | |
| 21:49 | eythian | Yeah. I have mixed opinions. Mostly I think something is needed to prevent electronic works being siloed. |
| 21:49 | drojf | and i want to play with elasticsearch, that is how it actually started. i play better with a goal ;) |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | ^ most people do |
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| 21:50 | eythian | And if that's best done through a system that people are already using, it may be worth sacrificing the purity of just being a metadata system. |
| 21:51 | drojf | first thing i would like to have is adding fulltext, being able to find related record. that does not mean the actual pdf or whatever needs to be hidden in koha somewhere |
| 21:51 | eythian | Fair enough. Full text searching was one of my "it should be used for this" thoughts. |
| 21:52 | It will suit it well, even more if you can add semantic info that's not in the biblio record already. But that's probably hard. | |
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| 21:59 | drojf | there are people carefully digitizing stuff and spending hours correcting ocr results. thats something i have in mind for the beginning. things like "automatically rip broken text from pdf" are not that interesting. and once there is fulltext availabe, yeah there could be done all kinds of cool stuff with it |
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| 22:38 | drojf | good night #koha |
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| 22:44 | rangi | @later tell tcohen do you want me to set up the 3.22.x jenkins jobs? |
| 22:44 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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