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00:15 | wizzyrea | eythian: go to bed. |
00:15 | wahanui | http://cdn4.list25.com/wp-cont[…]12/04/penguin.gif |
00:17 | wizzyrea | I just wanted to see the penguin, tbh. |
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00:34 | kathryn | eythian is ww monitor today...night :) nice to see you |
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04:03 | jcamins | rangi: how do you install gitdm? |
04:04 | I remember installing it on several other servers, but I can't remember where I got it in the past and there are apparently a gazillion forks, one per FOSS project that uses git. | |
04:05 | rangi | git.lwn.net/gitdm.git is my remote |
04:05 | jcamins | Thanks. |
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04:13 | jcamins | Huh. I don't remember gitdm being this slow. |
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06:01 | dcook | Never thought about this until now... but I suppose MARC bibliographic 005 is supposed to be in local time? |
06:01 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd005.html | |
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07:11 | * magnuse | waves |
07:21 | * Francesca | waves back |
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07:45 | reiveune | hello |
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07:45 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
07:47 | Oh, current Koha version seems to be 3.20 (at least on https://koha-community.org/ : "Introducing Koha 3.20" :-) | |
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08:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
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08:37 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:39 | cait | hi #koha |
08:47 | dojobo | 'morning |
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08:49 | marcelr | hi #koha |
08:52 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
08:52 | marcelr | :) |
08:56 | Joubu | Good morning #koha |
08:56 | marcelr | hi Joubu |
08:56 | Joubu | hi marcelr, cait |
08:57 | * cait | waves |
08:57 | is stuck in a big pile of after vacation emails this morning | |
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09:11 | * mveron-away | waves |
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09:37 | drojf | hi #koha |
09:38 | cait | hi drojf :) |
09:38 | drojf | hi cait :) |
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09:44 | ashimema | yup :( |
09:47 | * cait | puts a plate of christmas cookies in the middle of #koha to cheer people up |
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10:25 | drojf | \o/ cookies |
10:25 | cait++ | |
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11:45 | ashimema | cookies++ |
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12:26 | * cait | waves |
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12:45 | magnuse | hm, when returning something that was not on loan, the title does not show up in the table of returned items. did it ever do that? |
12:48 | cait | yes it did, but i think we fixed it |
12:48 | drojf | magnuse: it was not technically returned if it was not on loan. i would not expect it to show up there |
12:49 | cait | that was the reasoning :) |
12:49 | drojf | :) |
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12:54 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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13:05 | cait | hi oleonard |
13:05 | drojf: check your email in a minute or so | |
13:09 | magnuse | thanks cait and drojf |
13:09 | cait | huh? |
13:09 | oh | |
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13:19 | tcohen | hi there |
13:19 | wahanui | hello, tcohen |
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13:24 | magnuse | hiya tcohen |
13:24 | tcohen | holiday here |
13:24 | cait | hi tcohen |
13:24 | tcohen | hi cait |
13:24 | oleonard | Hi tcohen. What holiday? |
13:25 | tcohen | it is a religious holiday tomorrow |
13:25 | and the government adds another "bridge holiday" so people can go somewhere (promoting turism) | |
13:26 | feast of the Immaculate Conception | |
13:26 | oleonard | Ha. In the U.S. the government never does anything to promote *more* vacation :P |
13:27 | tcohen | maybe they went too far here :-D but it is great for places that rely on turism for living |
13:27 | and people are happier too | |
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13:45 | magnuse | tcohen: sounds like a great idea! |
13:51 | cait | magnuse: i think norway wins in term of vacation anyway :) |
13:54 | tcohen | heh |
13:55 | magnuse | we do? |
13:56 | cait | hm thought so |
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13:58 | magnuse | ah, 5 weeks of vacation is the norm. 3 of those should be taken in a row |
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13:58 | magnuse | i was thinking of "extra" days off. like national holidays, religious days etc |
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14:01 | cait | magnuse: :) |
14:01 | oleonard | Americans may not get a lot of vacation, but at least we can own a lot of guns to make up for it. |
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14:04 | cait | ... |
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14:12 | magnuse | oleonard: yeah, that is something |
14:13 | nengard | morning all |
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14:18 | magnuse | kia ora nengard |
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16:07 | * mveron | See you later #koha |
16:10 | reiveune | bye |
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17:04 | gaetan_B | bye |
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18:27 | geek_cl | Hi guys, where are documented the options of koha-rebuild-zebra command ? |
18:27 | i mean -q and --full options | |
18:31 | eythian | oleonard: if it's any consolation, you can have the same number of guns in NZ too. Also more holidays. |
18:31 | geek_cl: in the man pages | |
18:31 | Also, hi. | |
18:32 | geek_cl | im clear with -q (quiet) option, but how many options are used when we use --full options ? |
18:34 | eythian | What do you mean? |
18:38 | geek_cl | eythian, i run koha-rebuild-zebra -v -b -a , but is not the same with --full |
18:38 | some items appears only with --full option | |
18:39 | eythian | That's correct. --full effectively deletes everything and starts over. |
18:40 | geek_cl | eythian, --full options include the -x option ? |
18:40 | eythian | From memory, I think so. |
18:41 | geek_cl | OK thanks |
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18:47 | rangi | morning |
18:47 | geek_cl | eythian, cause the default cronjob: is not working as expected |
18:47 | eythian | Hi rangi |
18:48 | geek_cl | "root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra -q $(koha-list --enabled)" |
18:50 | eythian | That is correct. |
18:51 | geek_cl | eythian, yes, but when we insert a new item, the rebuild not work after the cronjob is executed |
18:52 | (the cronjob run, but the new item, not appear at the opac) | |
18:52 | tcohen | hi |
18:52 | wahanui | hey, tcohen |
18:53 | eythian | Check the queue in the database, also make sure you didn't break permissions trying to fix something. |
18:53 | drojf | slides? |
18:53 | wahanui | get back to writing them, cait! |
18:54 | drojf | i wish that would work for my slides |
18:54 | and hello | |
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18:54 | eythian | Hi drojf |
18:54 | I'm having some beers, I have no slides to write. | |
18:55 | drojf | are you offering to switch? |
18:55 | because if no, that is not helping :P | |
18:58 | eythian | I am not. |
18:58 | I still feel that I'm helping. | |
19:00 | rangi | drojf: https://twitter.com/kiwicon/st[…]72935154105610240 <-- conference starting here on thursday |
19:00 | drojf | rangi: ha, it's everywhere :D |
19:06 | eythian: i'm trying to feel helped. thanks! | |
19:07 | eythian | rangi: did you end up speaking? |
19:07 | rangi | nope, the austrians got too busy |
19:08 | eythian | I need to get an address so Joh can send me swag. |
19:12 | rangi | oh true |
19:25 | * drojf | heads home |
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19:54 | nengard | I do believe i am done with the 3.22 manual |
19:55 | eythian | Looking at a place tomorrow and two more the day after. |
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19:55 | eythian | But, slightly hindered by not yet having access to my bank account here. |
19:56 | Hopefully that'll be sorted in a day or two. | |
19:56 | (waiting for one more letter to arrive.) | |
19:57 | rangi | ahh, that does make it tricky |
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20:14 | cait | hi #koha :) |
20:20 | wizzyrea | hi |
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20:37 | eythian | https://goo.gl/photos/aNyLDEc231A9yidE8 <-- i had tasty wafels wizzyrea |
20:38 | wizzyrea | Eat *all* the wafels! |
20:38 | were they appropriately delicious? | |
20:38 | :D | |
20:39 | cait | oh a christmas market :) |
20:43 | wizzyrea | what did you have on your wafel? |
20:44 | also have you had any fresh stroopies? I've heard they're the best thing ever. I've only ever had the ones in the packet. | |
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20:57 | eythian | Cherry and whipped cream (aka slagroom, best word ever.) |
20:58 | I haven't. I need to find some. | |
21:00 | wizzyrea | slagroom sounds... like somewhere I would not like to be. |
21:03 | cherry and whipped cream, however, sounds YUM. | |
21:03 | cait | ooh |
21:03 | whipped cream... | |
21:03 | schlagrahm | |
21:04 | * cait | was wondering what slagroom is :) |
21:04 | ibeardslee | heh |
21:04 | cait | but there actually is a similar german word |
21:06 | drojf | the word is schlagsahne. rahm is austrian :P |
21:06 | cait | yes... yes... |
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21:08 | cait | drojf: make your slides :P |
21:10 | * wizzyrea | is amused by this conversation |
21:10 | wizzyrea | I love it. |
21:11 | cait | heh |
21:14 | geek_cl | guys, this is normal ? http://fpaste.org/298362/95228241/ with "rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z" |
21:15 | rangi | seems fine to me, im guessing you have -v on too |
21:19 | drojf | -vv probably, or -vvv if that exists |
21:19 | cait: no more slides today | |
21:20 | tomorrow is another slidy day ;) | |
21:20 | pianohacker | verbosississimo |
21:22 | wizzyrea | there isn't enough italian in computing. |
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21:25 | geek_cl | yes, was -v -v |
21:25 | but, i can't reindex :( | |
21:25 | also, i follow this https://koha-community.org/faq[…]-a-r-whats-wrong/, but i can't make this works properly | |
21:26 | drojf | what exactly is the problem? |
21:27 | geek_cl | I have added rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z in crontab, however, new entries are not indexed and cannot be found. |
21:27 | rangi | geek_cl: and the entries are in the zebraqueue table in the db? and you havent mucked up the permissions? |
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21:28 | geek_cl | how can check that db thing ? |
21:28 | rangi | 07:53 < eythian> Check the queue in the database, also make sure you didn't break permissions trying to fix something. |
21:28 | connect to the db, and then query the zebraqueue table | |
21:28 | geek_cl | i check the permissions in /var/lib/koha/... |
21:29 | in zebraqueue i have zero | |
21:30 | SELECT COUNT(*) FROM zebraqueue WHERE done=0 ; | |
21:33 | rangi, eythian , any other clue? | |
21:34 | rangi | nope |
21:35 | if there's nothing in the queue, then there's nothing to be indexed | |
21:35 | check it before the cronjob runs, and after you edit a biblio | |
21:35 | geek_cl | but is a fact, we added on item |
21:35 | one | |
21:35 | eythian | You're filtering the query that will obscure your results. |
21:36 | That's not a good idea. | |
21:36 | geek_cl | the biblionumber appears but in a search the opac |
21:36 | in this moment, i have the cronjob disabled | |
21:36 | wizzyrea | have we gone through the usual "what version, and how did you install" dance? |
21:37 | (it's totally possible I missed it) | |
21:37 | eythian | You're assuming, stop that, you have a wrong assumption somewhere by definition. |
21:37 | Look in your queue without filtering. | |
21:37 | Maybe something has marked it as indexed it. | |
21:37 | -it | |
21:40 | geek_cl | eythian, i have this: http://fpaste.org/298372/52439114/ |
21:41 | eythian | So what does that tell you? |
21:42 | geek_cl | eythian, all is indexed |
21:42 | eythian | Is the one you changed indexed? |
21:43 | You're going to have to help us out here ☺ | |
21:43 | geek_cl | i will re-catalog other item, and see the zebraqueue again, brb |
21:45 | eythian | You can make a change to a record. That's usually easier. |
21:47 | geek_cl | eythian, | 359170 | 114293 | specialUpdate | biblioserver | 0 | 2015-12-07 18:46:09 | |
21:47 | so, now i have a done=0 record | |
21:47 | eythian | Right, his you can use that record to test without --full |
21:47 | *now | |
21:48 | geek_cl | i still using -b -a -z , right? |
21:48 | eythian | You can also reset it |
21:48 | geek_cl | i not want full |
21:48 | eythian | Ik |
21:48 | Err | |
21:48 | No | |
21:48 | geek_cl | always thinking in the /etc/cron.d/koha-common... |
21:48 | eythian, or what? | |
21:49 | eythian | I don't think the cron has -z |
21:49 | geek_cl | nop, |
21:50 | eythian | Iirc that does a full reindex |
21:50 | That isn't a useful test | |
21:50 | geek_cl | but when the cronjob run every 5-10' minutes, will perform a full reinidex? |
21:50 | eythian | No |
21:51 | geek_cl | anyone can share, the koha-common (rebuild line) please? |
21:51 | eythian | Look in the file |
21:51 | My metro stop is approaching, I'm going offline. | |
21:51 | wizzyrea | later eythian :D |
21:52 | geek_cl | thanks eythian |
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21:52 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
21:53 | wizzyrea | cait++ |
21:53 | geek_cl | in the /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/crontab.example file, appears -b -a -z |
21:54 | drojf | example does not sound like it is your actual file |
21:54 | wizzyrea | yeah the one you want is in /etc/cron.d/koha-common |
21:55 | rangi | im pretty sure it runs -z too |
21:55 | you dont need the -a to test tho, unles you are testing authorities | |
21:55 | wizzyrea | -z is the incremental update |
21:56 | rangi | yes |
21:56 | thats what we want to test | |
21:56 | i think eythian was confused, cos he had beer :) | |
21:56 | wizzyrea | hehe |
21:56 | rangi | id just let the cronjob run |
21:56 | * wizzyrea | was just pointing out a fact |
21:56 | rangi | not do anything |
21:56 | and check the zebraqueue afterwards | |
21:58 | geek_cl | http://fpaste.org/298384/52547314/ |
21:59 | rangi | so something else must have marked it indexed before you ran that |
21:59 | otherwise you would have had at least one record exported | |
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22:00 | geek_cl | crontab are disabled |
22:01 | I do not care that there are no records. | |
22:01 | I care about is that being indexed | |
22:02 | rangi | it cant be indexed |
22:02 | if it's not exported | |
22:02 | drojf1 | your no records are indexed accordingly |
22:02 | rangi | check the zebraqueue table now, is it marked done? if so |
22:02 | something else is doing that, before you ran your rebuild | |
22:03 | how the reindex works is | |
22:03 | it exports the records (as xml with -x) and then indexes them | |
22:03 | if it exports none, it indexes none | |
22:03 | so the problem is that 0 records exported bit | |
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22:03 | drojf1 | good night #koha |
22:05 | geek_cl | rangi, table is empty |
22:05 | rangi | empty |
22:05 | or just nothing with done=0 ? | |
22:05 | because if it's empty, youve got some cronjob running deleting rows in that table | |
22:06 | geek_cl | rangi, all is marked as 1 |
22:06 | rangi | right |
22:06 | so something is marking it indexed | |
22:06 | you need to find out what that is | |
22:06 | try this | |
22:06 | geek_cl | o_O |
22:06 | rangi | update zebraqueue set done=0; |
22:06 | then run your rebuild again | |
22:06 | it should export a bunch of records | |
22:07 | and index them | |
22:07 | geek_cl | rangi, doing it |
22:07 | waiting now... | |
22:08 | is production :D | |
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22:21 | geek_cl | rangi, http://fpaste.org/298395/14495268/ , rebuild is still running ... |
22:21 | 35000 ---130000 | |
22:22 | rangi | and it's exporting records? |
22:22 | geek_cl | in fact, exporting biblio : 37000... |
22:22 | yes, is running | |
22:23 | rangi | right, so it works fine as long as things are in the queue marked 0 |
22:23 | geek_cl | ok, still waiting... ;) |
22:23 | rangi | you just have to find what is marking stuff as 1 without indexing it |
22:24 | you didnt do a full rebuild eh? just -z ? | |
22:24 | geek_cl | the question is: in case this work, what options will be at the cronjob |
22:24 | rangi | the exact same options |
22:25 | there should only be 137 records being indexed | |
22:25 | if you ran with -z | |
22:25 | geek_cl | i am using : -b -a -x |
22:25 | rangi | but no -z ? |
22:25 | right | |
22:25 | geek_cl | no -z |
22:25 | rangi | so we arent actually testing anything |
22:25 | this is a full reindex | |
22:25 | geek_cl | yeap |
22:25 | rangi | you wanted to run it with -z |
22:25 | geek_cl | at cronjob? |
22:26 | rangi | for this test |
22:26 | geek_cl | oh, waiting |
22:26 | rangi | theres no point testing a full reindex |
22:26 | you know that works | |
22:26 | geek_cl | yeap |
22:37 | 90000 ---> 136000 | |
22:37 | rangi | im going to lunch soon |
22:37 | but dont do any more full reindexes :) | |
22:37 | geek_cl | ok |
22:38 | in resume, | |
22:38 | to cronjob | |
22:38 | */5 * * * * rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -x | |
22:39 | cait | no |
22:39 | that's a full reindex | |
22:39 | geek_cl | 100000 ---> 136000 |
22:39 | wizzyrea | yeah it needs a -z to do incremental |
22:39 | that means you're doing a full reindex every 5 minutes | |
22:39 | cait | and you don't want to do that |
22:39 | geek_cl | cait, i not want full reindex to the */5 cronjob |
22:39 | wizzyrea | no no |
22:39 | you do not want to do that | |
22:40 | geek_cl | */5 * * * * rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z |
22:40 | 5 3 * * * rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -x | |
22:40 | right ? | |
22:40 | -x is full, -z is incremental , right ? | |
22:41 | cait | we don't cronjob full reindexes at all for our libraries |
22:41 | wizzyrea | -x is xml |
22:41 | cait | -x just means in xml |
22:41 | nothing to do with full | |
22:41 | geek_cl | oh ok |
22:41 | cait | you always want -x |
22:41 | wizzyrea | -b -a -z is incremental |
22:41 | geek_cl | wizzyrea, and full? |
22:41 | wizzyrea | -b -a -x is full rebuild |
22:41 | (in xml) | |
22:41 | did you install with a tarball? | |
22:41 | cait | there is no option for full |
22:42 | full is when there is no -z | |
22:42 | wizzyrea | why are you not using the koha-rebuild-zebra commands? |
22:42 | geek_cl | ok i undestand ;) |
22:42 | wizzyrea | i'm sorry if you've been over that part before, I obviously missed it |
22:42 | geek_cl | wizzyrea, no problem ;) |
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22:43 | geek_cl | wizzyrea, is a rebuild/ cronjob issue |
22:48 | cait | geek_cl: in the cronjob file, for an installation from packages, it should all be already set up to work corectly, using the package commands |
22:49 | geek_cl | that is the issue, the default conf, being to not work properly |
22:51 | cait | you really have to be careful with which user you run the zebra commands |
22:52 | geek_cl | it was: #*/5 * * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra -q $(koha-list --enabled) |
22:52 | cait | yes |
22:52 | geek_cl | that is the issue, the default conf, being to not work properly |
22:52 | cait | it really should |
22:53 | geek_cl | yes |
22:53 | but... | |
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22:53 | cait | i think better than rewriting it |
22:53 | is to figure out why it's not working | |
22:58 | geek_cl | so the default, not have -z, so every 5 minutes is full reindex ? |
22:58 | cait | no |
22:58 | this is a different command | |
22:58 | before we were talking about rebuild_zebra.pl | |
22:58 | geek_cl | yes |
22:58 | you are right | |
22:58 | cait | koha-rebuild-zebra has different command line options :) |
22:58 | geek_cl | which one use? |
22:59 | i have koha-rebuild-zebra | |
22:59 | cait | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]oha-rebuild-zebra |
22:59 | yes, that shoudl be used with packages | |
22:59 | geek_cl | yes, i have that |
22:59 | cait | without -f it's incremental |
22:59 | with -f it woudl be full | |
22:59 | geek_cl | i see |
22:59 | -h :) | |
23:00 | cait | sorry, i have to leave |
23:00 | it's late here | |
23:00 | geek_cl | so, i will use /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra in the crontab |
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23:17 | wizzyrea | ok so you've installed with packages? |
23:17 | this is actually relevant | |
23:17 | I promise. | |
23:17 | geek_cl | yes, with debian packages |
23:18 | wizzyrea | ok so you don't actually want to be running anything with koha-rebuild-zebra |
23:18 | er no | |
23:19 | bleh. | |
23:19 | ok, I mean | |
23:19 | you don't want to run anything zebra with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z | |
23:19 | geek_cl | root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra -b -a -q $(koha-list --enabled) |
23:19 | that is on my crontab file: root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra -b -a -q $(koha-list --enabled) | |
23:21 | wizzyrea | Yep, that should be right |
23:21 | geek_cl | but! |
23:21 | wizzyrea | it is entirely possible that you have messed up the permissions on your indexes. |
23:21 | by doing all of your rebuilds not this way | |
23:21 | geek_cl | at the cronjob not work, only when it is running manually |
23:22 | manually i run as kohauser | |
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23:22 | geek_cl | at the cronjob: root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra -b -a -q $(koha-list --enabled) |
23:22 | wizzyrea | yeah, koha-rebuild-zebra manages the permissions for you |
23:23 | geek_cl | wizzyrea, but when cron run koha-common, the new items not appears. |
23:26 | wizzyrea | probably because you've messed up the permissions on your indexes by running it manually |
23:26 | and running it without koha-rebuild-zebra | |
23:27 | geek_cl | http://fpaste.org/298416/95308181/ |
23:27 | all perms looks good | |
23:30 | i rare, manually works, by cronjob NO | |
23:30 | its* | |
23:31 | wizzyrea | dunno then |
23:33 | geek_cl | wizzyrea, can your paste/confirm your /etc/cron.d/koha-common , rebuild line please? |
23:34 | wizzyrea | you can confirm the default settings on our git repo http://git.koha-community.org/[…]20f958b5a17423625 |
23:36 | though you never said which version. Not that it should matter, these haven't changed in ages. | |
23:36 | geek_cl | Koha 3.2004000 |
23:37 | wizzyrea, yes, is the same... but not work :( | |
23:37 | the perms are right | |
23:37 | i don't know where look now | |
23:38 | I'm flying blind | |
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