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| 11:01 | cait | hi #koha :) |
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| 14:33 | eythian | hi cait |
| 14:33 | go back to bed | |
| 14:33 | wahanui | http://33.media.tumblr.com/b34[…]9rdlo1_r2_400.gif |
| 14:33 | eythian | no wait |
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| 15:36 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 16:48 | eythian | Hi drojf |
| 16:48 | drojf | hi eythian |
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| 19:40 | rangi | morning |
| 19:41 | eythian | hi |
| 19:41 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
| 19:41 | rangi | got rid of the cold eythian ? |
| 19:41 | * eythian | is on hold to vodafone nz... |
| 19:41 | liw | rangi, eythian, good morning and good night |
| 19:41 | eythian | mostly yeah |
| 19:42 | rangi | ahh good old vodafone |
| 19:42 | hiya liw :) been writing your "backups, you should do them" talk for kohacon16 in greece? | |
| 19:43 | liw | rangi, I could do a talked where I just read out loud a list of things in which your data might get lost |
| 19:43 | eythian | I think they failed to close my account when I told them |
| 19:43 | liw | rangi, when is kohacon16? |
| 19:43 | rangi | not sure exact dates but may/june |
| 19:43 | eythian: ahh that sadly does not suprise me | |
| 19:44 | eythian | yeah, neither |
| 19:44 | liw | https://koha-community.org/kohacon/ should possibly be updated, it lists kohacon15 as upcoming |
| 19:44 | rangi | ahh true, thanks |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea: ^^ | |
| 19:44 | drojf | i sent an email to greece about it, no reply yet |
| 19:44 | eythian | also, hi liw |
| 19:44 | drojf | and hello everyone |
| 19:44 | liw | eythian, you northern person you (I'm south of you now) |
| 19:45 | eythian | where are you? |
| 19:45 | liw | spending this month in Torrevieja, Spain |
| 19:46 | eythian | ah |
| 19:46 | probably a good idea :) | |
| 19:46 | liw | rangi, if kohacon16 is in greece, about that time, then I should try my best to go there, at least for a visit to see old friends; I don't mind giving a talk on backups, either |
| 19:46 | eythian | I'm hoping to make it too. I have a friend to visit who lives there |
| 19:47 | rangi | liw: excellent :) |
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| 19:47 | * cait | waves |
| 19:47 | rangi | hi cait |
| 19:48 | cait | hi rangi :) |
| 19:50 | eythian | so, I got "don't pay the bill, and we'll send you a new one in a week with your credit." |
| 19:51 | what are the odds I get an overdue notice in the next few days? | |
| 19:51 | cait | ? |
| 19:51 | rangi | greater than 80% |
| 19:51 | eythian | cait: my NZ ISP failed to close my account |
| 19:51 | they were apparently waiting on a technician to come to pick up my equipment, despite a) not organising one, and b) me having already returned my equipment myself. | |
| 19:52 | gmcharlt | my mother-in-law moved out of her house, and we closed her cable internet service for her |
| 19:52 | got informed we had to return her modem | |
| 19:52 | ... the one we had purchased for her two years previously ... and those, not actually the property of the cable company | |
| 19:52 | eythian | heh |
| 19:53 | vodafone would do that sort of thing too, I'm sure (except I think no one buys their own cable modem in NZ) | |
| 19:53 | cait | ... i just today have switched to a new router and have to send in the old one |
| 19:53 | could you all stop the horror stories please? | |
| 19:54 | I have to go back to work tomorrow - that's bad enough :) | |
| 19:56 | gmcharlt: could you maybe take a look at bug 8352 sometime? i adds 3 new dependencies and is in the qa queue currently | |
| 19:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add automatic printing of 'hold to pull' notices |
| 19:57 | gmcharlt | cait: sure! |
| 19:59 | eythian | gmcharlt: did you get a copy of the original signing key? A number of people have it and can send it to you. It'd mean that other people wouldn't need to do anything to keep updates going. |
| 19:59 | gmcharlt | eythian: not yet; I've made inquiries to get a copy |
| 19:59 | eythian | rangi should be able to send you one. Foolishly I didn't keep a copy. |
| 20:00 | rangi | hmm if i can find it |
| 20:01 | eythian | I emailed it ages back, so you should be able to dig through your email. |
| 20:01 | rangi | *nod* |
| 20:01 | eythian | by ages I mean probably around the time the key was created |
| 20:01 | the passphrase for it is in the usual place for such things | |
| 20:01 | rangi | got it |
| 20:01 | feb 2013 | |
| 20:01 | eythian | cool |
| 20:04 | http://www.pararius.com/apartm[…]rik-hendrikstraat <-- on a scale of 1 to expensive, places here are ridiculous | |
| 20:04 | gmcharlt | rang++ |
| 20:04 | er, who is this rang fellow? | |
| 20:04 | rangi++ | |
| 20:05 | rangi | eythian: yikes! |
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| 20:05 | kathryn | rangi: do you get the cloud update emails from Bruno? |
| 20:05 | eythian | the cheapest I've seen is only €100 less |
| 20:05 | kathryn: w/w | |
| 20:05 | also, hi | |
| 20:05 | kathryn | ww hi eythian :) |
| 20:06 | knew you'd beat me to that :) | |
| 20:06 | gmcharlt | eythian: I didn't think what I'm about to say would be possible... but it is: move to Seattle! It'll be cheaper! |
| 20:06 | eythian | gmcharlt: heh |
| 20:08 | prices are known to be extremely terrible here. | |
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| 20:08 | eythian | I wasn't quite prepared for how terrible though |
| 20:08 | I'm thinking I'll suck that cost up for 6 months while I get my bearings and find a cheaper place and get together the furnishings for it. | |
| 20:14 | cait1 | t |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | Thhat is impressively expensive |
| 20:14 | also hi | |
| 20:14 | eythian | it surely is |
| 20:14 | g'day | |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | liw: I usually update the website for kohacon once I have the new information from the current hosts. |
| 20:15 | but yeah, it shouldn't be listed as upcoming | |
| 20:16 | * wizzyrea | keeps getting emails from booking.com |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | >.> |
| 20:20 | eythian | That's what the unsub link is for :-) |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | nah, I like them they remind me of people I like |
| 20:23 | * cait1 | resists to ask who else wizzyrea knows at booking.com |
| 20:23 | cait1 | well.. not quite :) |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | ok A person |
| 20:25 | eythian | Heh |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
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| 21:07 | gmcharlt | OK, the APT repo and new packages have been updated to use the previous signing key |
| 21:07 | cait1 | gmcharlt++ |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | \o/ gmcharlt++ |
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| 21:30 | * cait1 | waves at BobB |
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| 21:32 | cait1 | hm bug 15305 worries me |
| 21:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15305 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , KOHA SIP2 checkout doesn't update of the item holding status |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | hm yes that is concerning |
| 21:33 | cait1 | the screenshot is ineresting, i have no idea how this can happen |
| 21:33 | rangi | looks like a display issue |
| 21:33 | cait1 | hm not sure |
| 21:33 | rangi | ie, it is actually checked out |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | yeah it definitely looks checked out |
| 21:33 | cait1 | the first one is checked out with sip, the second with gui |
| 21:33 | rangi | its just not updated the items |
| 21:33 | both have a row in issues | |
| 21:33 | cait1 | yeah |
| 21:34 | but it's still a bug then | |
| 21:34 | rangi | which is what koha actually cares about |
| 21:34 | yep | |
| 21:34 | cait1 | will also show wrongin the result lists etc. |
| 21:34 | rangi | just not a horrible one |
| 21:34 | cait1 | hopefully |
| 21:34 | rangi | it is |
| 21:34 | i just checked | |
| 21:34 | cait1 | hm? |
| 21:34 | rangi | you can simulate it |
| 21:34 | cait1 | checked out you mean? |
| 21:34 | rangi | add a row to issues |
| 21:34 | without updating the items table | |
| 21:34 | cait1 | ah, and set onloan in items to null? |
| 21:34 | rangi | thats how it looks |
| 21:34 | yep | |
| 21:34 | cait1 | wonde when we broke that |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | I know it used to work |
| 21:35 | hm we have a 3.20 library using sip | |
| 21:35 | rangi | it'll be something more complex than just because of SIP |
| 21:35 | cait1 | wonder if it has to do with the date handling patches |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | you used to see that kind of thing in relation to reserves sometimes |
| 21:35 | cait1 | like inserting a datetime into items when it only wants a date |
| 21:36 | rangi | but they should both be using the same code |
| 21:36 | an checkout in sip, should be using the exact same code as a checkout in the gui | |
| 21:37 | cait1 | agreed... but it might not be the case. it's weird |
| 21:37 | rangi | that would definitely be new, if it wasnt |
| 21:37 | you could also get this with indexing problems | |
| 21:38 | cait1 | I can't confirm the problemright now, maybe a first thing to test |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | ^ that was my first thought |
| 21:38 | cait1 | not sure |
| 21:38 | this is detail view | |
| 21:38 | it pulls directly from the database | |
| 21:38 | rangi | thats what you think :) |
| 21:38 | cait1 | yeah i do :) |
| 21:39 | rangi | people change that stuff all the time, id check its not using the marcrecord |
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| 21:39 | cait1 | best would be to just check something out with sip |
| 21:39 | rangi | my $issue = AddIssue( $borrower, $barcode, $overridden_duedate, 0 ); |
| 21:39 | its using the exact same code | |
| 21:40 | cait1 | but i still have to make time and re-learn how to do that |
| 21:40 | maybe it's passing a wrong parameter? as overridden_duedate? | |
| 21:40 | rangi | yeah, SIP and circulation.pl both use AddIssue |
| 21:41 | could be | |
| 21:41 | cait1 | if it was a datetime mysql might just refuse to save it |
| 21:41 | rangi | id expect it not to issue it then |
| 21:41 | cait1 | onloan is type date in the database |
| 21:41 | rangi | if its that |
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| 21:41 | rangi | then AddIssue is the problem |
| 21:41 | it shouldnt half arse it | |
| 21:42 | cait1 | heh |
| 21:42 | rangi | that'd mean it'd be broken for the REST API etc too |
| 21:42 | cait1 | we really need more sip testers/devs... those are really always getting stuck |
| 21:42 | the bugs and patches | |
| 21:43 | rangi | if ($datedue && ref $datedue ne 'DateTime') { |
| 21:43 | $datedue = dt_from_string($datedue); | |
| 21:43 | } | |
| 21:43 | should be ok | |
| 21:43 | thats doing the right thing | |
| 21:44 | cait1: what we need is a SIP server running | |
| 21:44 | that people can telnet against to test | |
| 21:44 | like the sandboxes | |
| 21:44 | but for SIP | |
| 21:44 | cait1 | hm but also need to be able to accesst he installation then |
| 21:45 | for configuration - so sandbox with configured sip | |
| 21:45 | rangi | yep |
| 21:45 | then libraries could even test actual machines against it | |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | yeah tat'd be neat |
| 21:46 | cait1 | love the idea |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | what sucks though, is that most libraries don't know/remember how to update the configs to look at a test server |
| 21:48 | cait1 | brb |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | and they have to call 3M to remind them |
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| 21:59 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:59 | and then 3m lie | |
| 22:00 | altho, not for much longer | |
| 22:00 | now bibliotheca will lie | |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | hrmph |
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| 22:00 | wizzyrea | "no no, it's Koha" <furious typing> "try it now" |
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| 22:38 | BobB | hi wizzyrea, do you know if Kathryn Tyree is about? |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | she's not in this channel atm, but she could be |
| 22:38 | BobB | i guess i could phone her :) |
| 22:39 | rangi | kathryn: BobB wants you :) |
| 22:40 | kathryn | hi bobb I'm on the phone :) |
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| 22:41 | BobB | kathryn pls buzz me when you are free |
| 22:41 | hi rangi :) | |
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| 23:06 | irma | hi james s |
| 23:06 | I am opening our shared Gdocs | |
| 23:08 | To start of with can you please copy from sheet two the q7a into the correct row in sheet one? CSOWW | |
| 23:08 | Q&A | |
| 23:09 | * eythian | wants to encourage irma to post more secrets, but must go to bed instead |
| 23:09 | * Francesca | waves |
| 23:10 | irma | thanks eytian ;-) |
| 23:10 | *eythian | |
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