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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:05 | dcook | Blarg... always new dependencies... |
| 00:06 | Why are we using SOAP... | |
| 00:06 | NorwegianPatronDB? Boo.. | |
| 00:08 | And Crypt::GCrypt isn't building.. | |
| 00:11 | Oh sweet jesus.. | |
| 00:11 | The hell... | |
| 00:11 | Why is Koha failing to load when Crypt::GCrypt isn't required... | |
| 00:17 | eythian: Did you build Crypt::GCrypt for Koha or was it already in Debian? | |
| 00:18 | eythian | looks like it was already there. |
| 00:19 | dcook | I thought that might be the case.. |
| 00:19 | I wonder if they fixed it up themselves. The version from CPAN won't build at all... blarg | |
| 00:20 | Another question... | |
| 00:20 | Does "require" load the module but not export anything? | |
| 00:20 | Crypt::GCrypt appears to be required even though it's marked as not required in the perldeps | |
| 00:21 | eythian | you're using the word "require" with two definitions, I'm no longer sure what you're asking :) |
| 00:21 | dcook | I'm guessing mainpage.pl uses Koha::Borrowers::Discharge which uses Members which requires Koha::NorwegianPatronDB |
| 00:22 | eythian | but yes, "require" is like use without the exports I'm pretty sure |
| 00:22 | dcook | And that's causing mainpage.pl not to compile because I can't install the Crypt::GCrypt which Koha::NorwegianPatronDB uses |
| 00:22 | That's what I thought :/ | |
| 00:23 | Looks like I'm not the only one Crypt::GCrypt won't work for: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug[…]lay.html?id=97201 | |
| 00:23 | I suppose I could force install it but I really rather not do that.. | |
| 00:24 | eythian | https://anonscm.debian.org/cgi[…]kg-perl/packages/ <-- you can probably find any debian patches for it in here |
| 00:24 | dcook | Just investigating a similar angle now :) |
| 00:24 | Damn... yeah that might be the only option.. | |
| 00:26 | Hmm nothing special at a glance | |
| 00:26 | Looks like they're skipping tests | |
| 00:26 | Ah, and a patch to compile with libgcrypt 1.6 | |
| 00:26 | That would be the vital one | |
| 00:27 | At least for Crypt::Gcrypt 1.26.. | |
| 00:27 | But Wheezy has 1.25.. | |
| 00:28 | Well 1.25-1 | |
| 00:30 | Maybe I'll get lucky and someone at openSUSE will have packaged it.. | |
| 00:30 | Or this is when I learn to package RPMs so I can distribute to my other servers :p | |
| 00:35 | eythian | how hard could it be ;) |
| 00:35 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:36 | Well, in this case, I imagine it shouldn't be too too bad | |
| 00:37 | Not that I have time for this... | |
| 00:37 | I suppose I better make time or else no more Koha development which will definitely be a wrench in the works | |
| 00:38 | Have to wonder a bit about using a crypto library that hasn't been updated in over 2 years though... | |
| 00:38 | eythian | yeah |
| 00:38 | dcook | Well, I guess it's an interface, but still |
| 00:38 | Hmm, the author is active on Github... | |
| 00:39 | Maybe he doesn't pay attention to CPAN anymore | |
| 00:39 | rangi | in that case i think magnus had to have one that works with what they are expecting at the national library end |
| 00:40 | dcook | rangi: Yeah, I figured that was probably the case |
| 00:40 | eythian | it sounds like the best solution for now would be to only load that module on demand |
| 00:40 | dcook | I think we've had to do things like that on the Athens side of things |
| 00:40 | ^ | |
| 00:40 | rangi | theres a patch for that |
| 00:41 | it just failed qa, but needs a couple of simple fixes | |
| 00:41 | using module::conditional::load | |
| 00:41 | dcook | Interesting... how does that work? |
| 00:42 | Oh, I see.. | |
| 00:42 | Interesting | |
| 00:42 | wahanui | Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 00:43 | rangi | we use it for Koha::Cache and a few other places already |
| 00:43 | its better than the if, require import | |
| 00:43 | old way of doing it | |
| 00:43 | dcook | Yeah, the if/require seems like you wouldn't know a problem exists until much later |
| 00:43 | Whereas with this you probably get something in the logs if it doesn't load? | |
| 00:45 | rangi | if you want yep |
| 00:45 | dcook | Handy |
| 00:45 | rangi: Do you recall that bug number off the top of your head? | |
| 00:45 | rangi | if (! can_load (list of modules)) { |
| 00:45 | warn "its broken"; | |
| 00:45 | etc | |
| 00:45 | * dcook | is also going to see if alexrj will update cpan and github... |
| 00:46 | rangi | nope |
| 00:46 | dcook | I guess this is my week of reporting bugs upstream |
| 00:46 | cait | 15182 |
| 00:46 | dcook | cait: You're the best |
| 00:46 | bug 15182 | |
| 00:46 | cait | it broke my installation... |
| 00:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15182 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , make test fails immediately on 3.22.00-beta due to missing Crypt::GCrypt which is optional |
| 00:46 | cait | i failed it yesterday |
| 00:46 | rangi | its using load |
| 00:46 | dcook | Wow... someone else using openSUSE... wild |
| 00:46 | rangi | which it doesnt need, can_load loads if it can |
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| 01:16 | dcook | Huh... I wonder why it wouldn't work for Cait.. |
| 01:16 | Both Module::Load and Module::Load::Conditional are in core.. | |
| 01:17 | I guess that should be Module::Load::load rather than just load... | |
| 01:17 | But then why it would work for others.. | |
| 01:18 | rangi | you dont need it |
| 01:18 | can_load does the load | |
| 01:18 | loading it twice is just silly | |
| 01:19 | dcook | Ahh, neato burrito |
| 01:19 | Are you going to comment to that effect? | |
| 01:20 | rangi | not today im not |
| 01:20 | dcook | Cool. I can convey that for you then, if you don't mind? |
| 01:20 | rangi | yep thats fine |
| 01:20 | dcook | Cool. Thanks :) |
| 01:28 | Hmm... hmmm haww | |
| 01:31 | Booywah | |
| 01:31 | Booyah* | |
| 01:31 | Cheers rangi | |
| 01:31 | and cait | |
| 01:31 | And all the people | |
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| 02:09 | dcook | Anyone know where Zebra ouputs info with the packages? |
| 02:09 | I'm guessing it is... | |
| 02:10 | -> /var/log/koha/instance/zebra-output.log | |
| 02:10 | I guess no time like the present to see if my VM still works.. | |
| 02:11 | Huzzah.. | |
| 02:12 | eythian | it's there, but it logs bugger all |
| 02:13 | dcook | Yeah... that's... weird |
| 02:13 | The Zebra log I have on openSUSE is awesome | |
| 02:13 | eythian | I don't know if it's just that loglevels are set badly or what |
| 02:13 | dcook | Sure makes you wonder |
| 02:13 | Let's see if I can find a quick answer.. | |
| 02:14 | It looks a bit odd.. | |
| 02:14 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebra related processes on Debian" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/167 |
| 02:14 | dcook | Oh wait, I was reading that wrong |
| 02:14 | So the daemon starts the zebrasrv process | |
| 02:14 | We log straight out from zebrasrv.. | |
| 02:15 | eythian | well, those logs are (I presume) catching stderr, stdout. |
| 02:15 | or something along those lines | |
| 02:16 | dcook | That's what you'd hope |
| 02:16 | Hmm | |
| 02:16 | Yeah we use zebrasrv -l | |
| 02:16 | Ah, maybe we do up the log level | |
| 02:16 | Let's see... | |
| 02:16 | Nope... | |
| 02:18 | H'okay... what starts zebrasrv in the first place? | |
| 02:19 | Let's say the shell command.. | |
| 02:21 | Ahh, I don't think we're outputting stderr | |
| 02:21 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Zebra stuff" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/168 |
| 02:21 | dcook | errlog is the daemon's error ou tput |
| 02:21 | not the client's | |
| 02:21 | That's stderr | |
| 02:21 | --stderr* | |
| 02:22 | So we're doing the client's "output" and "stdout" but not "stderr".. | |
| 02:23 | That said, I do have a zebrasrv [warn] in my zebra-output.log.1 | |
| 02:26 | Hmm --stderr doesn't really make much difference.. | |
| 02:26 | errr... or maybe it would if the process actually changed.. | |
| 02:28 | Very interesting... | |
| 02:29 | Not sure that "is_zebra_running" actually works.. | |
| 02:30 | Possibly because we're using return codes like exit codes... | |
| 02:30 | Which I don't think you can do | |
| 02:31 | Well, then again.. | |
| 02:33 | eythian | dcook: don't forget to pass these on to the packaging manager :) |
| 02:33 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:33 | Well, I was wrong about the return/exit code thing | |
| 02:33 | Can tell how strong my bash-fu is.. | |
| 02:33 | It's been ages since I had to work with either | |
| 02:33 | But it looks like restarting the daemon doesn't restart the daemon... | |
| 02:33 | It restarts the child process | |
| 02:34 | But the actual daemon goes chugging along | |
| 02:34 | I suppose that makes a certain amount of sense.. | |
| 02:34 | --restart - Restart a named daemon client | |
| 02:34 | Bah.. | |
| 02:35 | Not sure how to take down this daemon process without just killing it | |
| 02:37 | Ah, stopping it does it... | |
| 02:41 | ...this is so frustrating. | |
| 02:45 | Hello... | |
| 02:45 | wahanui | well, hello is there an official install guide? i couldnt find anything on the docs page of the site |
| 02:47 | dcook | Well that's bloody useful |
| 02:48 | eythian: Two things | |
| 02:48 | wahanui | Two things are being conflated here making it confusing. |
| 02:48 | dcook | Apparently you have to use the -l flag |
| 02:48 | for zebrasrv | |
| 02:48 | And second... it turns out that we were specifying a low logging level | |
| 02:48 | Which didn't show up when I looked up the process with ps... | |
| 02:48 | eythian | ah OK |
| 02:48 | * dcook | twitches |
| 02:48 | dcook | Of course, that probably makes sense |
| 02:49 | As with full logging, you're logging every search | |
| 02:49 | eythian | we probably don't want that (but being able to turn it on would be nice) |
| 02:49 | dcook | Yeah, being able to turn it on would be nice |
| 02:49 | I suppose logs are rotated weekly... but still | |
| 02:51 | eythian | there's privacy implications among other things |
| 02:55 | dcook | Got to love documentation that isn't correct... |
| 02:55 | turns out "request" is a number log level which isn't documented.. | |
| 02:56 | Yeah, I suppose privacy might factor in | |
| 02:56 | Although we're already storing that in the database in search_history | |
| 02:56 | I suppose that's optional though I think.. | |
| 02:58 | Huh... turns out koha-restart-zebra will do something ot the zebrasrv process... but still doesn't touch the options.. | |
| 02:58 | That is, a restart is not the same as a stop and start | |
| 03:13 | Hmm... turns out you don't need to add the "-l" flag after all... | |
| 03:13 | Just for some reason instead of going to stderr, it goes to output... | |
| 03:14 | It's only an additional three lines of content... | |
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| 04:14 | Amit_Gupta | hi all |
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| 05:56 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
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| 07:06 | June | Hi |
| 07:07 | can please someone help me to explain how to deploy Solr in KOHA | |
| 07:08 | I do deployment according to this link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Solr_deployment , but I couldn't find SearchEngine folder | |
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| 07:29 | fridolin | hie |
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| 07:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:54 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 08:02 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:02 | wahanui | salut, alex_a |
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| 08:31 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:31 | wahanui | kia ora, gaetan_B |
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| 08:37 | ashimema | June, solr is no longer supported in Koha |
| 08:37 | and hasn't for at least a couple of years | |
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| 10:40 | ashimema | quiet in here this morning |
| 10:59 | * mveron | waves |
| 10:59 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 10:59 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 12.0°C (11:50 AM CET on November 17, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). |
| 10:59 | * cait | waves |
| 11:03 | ashimema | @wunder Stevenage, uk |
| 11:03 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 12.3°C (11:03 AM GMT on November 17, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:04 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:04 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 13.0°C (12:00 PM CET on November 17, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:51 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 11:51 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (12:20 PM CET on November 17, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:52 | magnuse | yesterday was freezing |
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| 12:11 | liw | @wunder hel |
| 12:11 | huginn | liw: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 12:11 | liw | @wunder helsinki |
| 12:11 | huginn | liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 7.0°C (1:50 PM EET on November 17, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:31 | ashimema | hi liw... nice of you to pop in :) |
| 12:33 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:33 | magnuse | kia ora tcohen! |
| 12:34 | tcohen: do you know when translations for 3.22 will be updated? | |
| 12:35 | tcohen | today i'm setting string freeze |
| 12:35 | there haven't been many string updates since the last update anyway | |
| 12:41 | magnuse | ok, thanks! |
| 12:41 | * magnuse | sets aside thursday for translating |
| 12:44 | * cait | does the same |
| 12:44 | cait | tcohen: some bugs waiting for you to push them :) |
| 12:44 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 12:44 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 12:45 | * tcohen | stares at his queue, *sigh* |
| 12:46 | tcohen | where are the C4::Dates removal patches?? |
| 12:46 | cait | working on those next |
| 12:46 | but there were some red ones first | |
| 12:46 | @later tell drojf rebel! | |
| 12:46 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:47 | tcohen | magnuse: why don' tyou use debian/wheezy64 for kohadevbox? |
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| 12:51 | magnuse | tcohen: not sure! |
| 12:51 | tcohen | heh |
| 13:04 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15070: Update MARC21 it-IT frameworks to Update 21 (September 2015) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0bea8192a1033e3d5> / Bug 15171: Display subscriptions which will expire in the future <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a8e7d8baffe8a08c> / Bug 15114: Fix typo in opac-suggestion template <http://git.koha-communi |
| 13:14 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15185: Remove Check*Holidays subroutines in C4::Circulation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1229951e61e8b23c4> / Bug 10067: decreaseLoanHighHolds messes with specify due date <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]301aeffb2517bf753> / Bug 15175: Respect IntranetBiblioDefaultView syspref <http://git.koha-community.org | |
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| 13:44 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15159: TestBuilder behaviour on AI values should be tested <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a5518c089313894f> |
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| 14:05 | cait | bug 11144 needs a sign-off... :) |
| 14:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11144 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fix sequence of cronjobs: automatic renewal - fines - overdue notices |
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| 14:12 | * andreashm | waves |
| 14:13 | * cait | waves |
| 14:13 | * ashimema | waves |
| 14:13 | * magnuse | waves |
| 14:14 | * ashimema | wonders if it's mexican style ;) |
| 14:14 | andreashm | nice to see a lot of waving. |
| 14:14 | =) | |
| 14:14 | cait | :) |
| 14:15 | * ashimema | just wrote a non-blocking covers request script.. should be fun to see how the supplier copes with that. |
| 14:15 | andreashm | anyone know of an easy way to increase the size of Kohadevbox vagrant disk image? |
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| 14:15 | * andreashm | is looking at you magnuse |
| 14:15 | ashimema | magnuse.. your up |
| 14:15 | ;) | |
| 14:16 | * ashimema | should really look int devbox again at some point |
| 14:16 | * andreashm | is trying to use a copy of our db... can't rebuild zebra because of disk space limit |
| 14:16 | ashimema | I assume devbox is still using the gitify approach right.. in the end that's what put me off.. made a bunch of stuff harder to work with I found |
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| 14:32 | misilot | is there a way to mark an item (or item type) for in library use only? so it states for use in library only to the staff member checking out the item? |
| 14:32 | I am on 3.18 right now | |
| 14:32 | cait | in 3.18 it's not quite doable yet |
| 14:32 | what you are looking for are on-site checouts | |
| 14:33 | misilot | which are there |
| 14:33 | cait | there are 2 prefs for that in 3.18 |
| 14:33 | but you can't restrict to only allow on-site checkouts in 3.18 - that will work in 3.22 | |
| 14:33 | misilot | ah, ok so in 3.22 we would be able to restrict items to be on-site checkouts only |
| 14:33 | ? | |
| 14:34 | cait | yes, sec |
| 14:34 | bug 14045 | |
| 14:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add specific quotas to on-site checkout |
| 14:35 | cait | you could set a circulation condition to 0 normal checkouts allowed and x on-site checokuts allowed |
| 14:35 | misilot | thanks cait :) |
| 14:35 | cait | and then set the new pref to 'don't count on-site as normal chekouts' |
| 14:36 | misilot | i think it will be a while before we get this :( though it is nice to know it is coming |
| 14:37 | magnuse | andreashm: it should be documented somewhere around here: https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/[…]ntfile/index.html |
| 14:37 | cait | maybe set it to be 'for reference' for now... and then have circ staff handle it? |
| 14:37 | magnuse | andreashm: i think you have to tweak this line: https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]r/Vagrantfile#L25 but not sure of the details |
| 14:37 | * magnuse | runs off to make dinner |
| 14:44 | andreashm | thanks magnuse |
| 14:44 | * andreashm | is trying to clone the disk to vdi to be able to increase size. we'll see how it goes |
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| 15:16 | mveron | Hi again #koha after a long meeting |
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| 15:45 | * cait | waves at mveron |
| 15:46 | cait | i need a rebase for the serials patch i am afraid |
| 15:51 | * mveron | waves back, was distracted by a phone call |
| 15:52 | cait | hm testing again |
| 15:52 | mveron: hmpf - patches apply now :) | |
| 15:52 | sorry for the trouble | |
| 15:52 | * mveron | likes magic... |
| 15:53 | tcohen | cait: you need to --hard reset before testing sutff :-P :-P |
| 15:53 | cait | hmpf |
| 15:53 | don't annoy the qa person | |
| 15:53 | i went for a walk outside... that could have helped a bit :) | |
| 15:54 | tcohen | heh |
| 15:54 | * mveron | will file a bug for self healing patches :-) |
| 15:55 | tcohen | mveron: that'd be awesome |
| 15:56 | cait | some help with the dates patches would be good |
| 15:56 | ashimema: khall - ping? :) | |
| 15:56 | khall | what's up? |
| 15:57 | ashimema | pong |
| 15:57 | cait | i need help :) |
| 15:57 | 14960, 14946 | |
| 15:57 | 14954 | |
| 15:58 | they are still valid for 3.22... | |
| 15:58 | tcohen | indeed |
| 15:58 | * ashimema | will try to look this evening if khall hasn't beat him to it.looking after not very well millie right now |
| 15:58 | khall | I'll see what I can do! |
| 15:58 | mveron | ...and bug 14870 needs sign-off |
| 15:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System |
| 15:59 | cait | poor millie |
| 15:59 | hope she feels better soon | |
| 15:59 | tcohen | oh! |
| 15:59 | cait | oh? |
| 15:59 | ashimema | ? |
| 15:59 | * tcohen | sends hugs to millie |
| 15:59 | cait | mveron: did i miss another? |
| 15:59 | i am working on the serials one | |
| 15:59 | so i didn't list that :) | |
| 16:00 | mveron | It is the final clean-up bug |
| 16:00 | ashimema | millie's just a bit under the weather.. nothing serious.. just enough to make it so me working is near impossible.. |
| 16:00 | one handed codeing whilst rocking baby in other arm is hard ;) | |
| 16:00 | cait | heh you can ask tcohen for tips |
| 16:01 | ashimema | :D |
| 16:02 | cait | but seriously - it would be great if we could finish the dates patches between us |
| 16:02 | * mveron | about 25 years ago introduced an easter egg into a software that played a children's melody. It helped to smooth the baby :-) |
| 16:03 | bag | ha :) |
| 16:03 | I like that | |
| 16:03 | cait | you could do that now with the new sound alerts |
| 16:03 | mveron | :-) |
| 16:04 | ashimema | you see my pm bag? |
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| 16:05 | bag | no I didn’t |
| 16:05 | could be on my office computer | |
| 16:05 | ashimema | no worries.. |
| 16:05 | tcohen | later, i'm starving :-D |
| 16:06 | ashimema | I was congratulating you on rm.. and asking if you wanted me to stand for auth mm and qa team again.. as I totally missed the meetings and stuff |
| 16:06 | bag | oh yes please :) |
| 16:06 | ashimema | I'm hoping I'll have a bit more time this cycle.. though not likely for a few more weeks.. need to tie up some projects before I get back into the koha mindset |
| 16:07 | cait | :) |
| 16:14 | ugh | |
| 16:14 | I have a subscription... where generate next will only work every other time | |
| 16:14 | so once it reloads the page not changing anything... and then the next time it does... and the issue number is +2 then... | |
| 16:15 | and yes... master and with the patches | |
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| 16:42 | mveron | cait: I tested with 2 different serials, with and without patches, could not reproduce. |
| 16:42 | cait | yeah i have t see if i can reproduce |
| 16:42 | the logs are empty | |
| 16:43 | it might be something specific to this subscription... but it's really weird | |
| 16:43 | mveron | cait: Frequency? |
| 16:43 | cait | 1/month |
| 16:44 | numbering pattern: number | |
| 16:44 | mveron | 1/day, will test new one with 1/month |
| 16:44 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:45 | cait | thx! |
| 16:46 | i think it's not yoru patches... but it remains odd | |
| 16:47 | i am using generate next on the serials collection page | |
| 16:48 | mveron | I did the same with a new serial, 1/month, then receive first one, then generate next on serials-collection.pl |
| 16:49 | It behaves OK. But it takes about 4-5 sec to generate the next one. | |
| 16:50 | I tried to break it by hitting "Generate next" several times while it is not finished yet, but it behaved well. | |
| 16:51 | cait: I propose you file a bug for it, we then can explore it later (since it is the same with and without patches) | |
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| 16:55 | cait | yep i will |
| 16:55 | just finishing dinner first | |
| 16:55 | mveron | enjoy :-) |
| 17:01 | cait | i will try to investigate more first.. might be sometin gin my database |
| 17:03 | bag | some GIN in your database? |
| 17:04 | cait | ? |
| 17:04 | oh | |
| 17:04 | something :) | |
| 17:05 | but of course drunken databases are best for testing | |
| 17:06 | bag | HA |
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| 17:22 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:44 | * trasheagle | slaps trasheagle around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 17:44 | trasheagle | whoa |
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| 18:20 | cait | mveron: i think i figured it out, something weird in the prediction pattern - it creates different years each turn - so the generated issue for one appears hidden in the issues from last year.. |
| 18:40 | mveron: still around? | |
| 18:41 | founda problem with the acqui patches | |
| 18:41 | mveron | cait: Sorry, was distracted... Neighbours... |
| 18:41 | cait | np |
| 18:41 | i will test continue testing the other pages | |
| 18:41 | mveron | cait: OK, will have a look at 14946 |
| 18:42 | cait | hm |
| 18:42 | it's weird - it also happens on the parcels page for me | |
| 18:42 | ugh | |
| 18:42 | give me a moment | |
| 18:42 | forget it | |
| 18:42 | wahanui | cait: I forgot it |
| 18:42 | cait | it's me |
| 18:42 | again | |
| 18:43 | i think i disqualified for testing tonight... | |
| 18:43 | i loaded an older database | |
| 18:43 | and it has a different dateformat setting | |
| 18:43 | mveron | Ok, glad to hear :-) |
| 18:43 | * cait | is embarassed |
| 18:43 | mveron | And you are very qualified for testing :-) |
| 18:43 | cait++ | |
| 18:44 | cait | maybe not right now, i will take a break |
| 18:44 | mveron | Do so... |
| 18:44 | * mveron | sends some chocolate... |
| 18:44 | cait | we are still a bit closer :) |
| 18:44 | thx! | |
| 18:54 | tcohen | what else? |
| 18:54 | cait | tcohen: hm? |
| 18:55 | tcohen | i want more patches to push! |
| 18:55 | bugfixes? | |
| 18:55 | wahanui | bugfixes are still fair game |
| 18:55 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15168: (followup) remove useless diags <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]659d091d21aacbbac> / Bug 14960: Simplify the date management in staticfines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]00c521cb2087d1049> / Bug 14960: Remove C4::Dates from files in misc/cronjobs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com |
| 18:55 | tcohen | ehh |
| 18:55 | cait | my brain is not working |
| 18:55 | i need a break! | |
| 18:59 | tcohen | bbl |
| 18:59 | bye! | |
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| 19:01 | rangi | magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Solr_deployment <-- better |
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| 19:01 | rangi | what you can do is add {{Obsolete}} to the top of the page, and it does that |
| 19:02 | cait | i just read recently we were kicking out zebra for solr.. |
| 19:02 | *sigh* | |
| 19:02 | rangi | who wrote that? |
| 19:02 | cait | it was in a protocol from a meeting |
| 19:03 | i am not sure the obsolete is enough - maybe we should also put a note that it has not been implemened and there are currently no plans to do it? | |
| 19:04 | trasheagle | The change from Zebra to Solr would impact the project I am working on. |
| 19:04 | rangi | it would if it was happening |
| 19:04 | its not | |
| 19:04 | elastic search is being added | |
| 19:04 | but not replacing Zebra at least not in the next year or 2, only as well as | |
| 19:06 | cait | hm i switched http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]witch_to_Solr_RFC too |
| 19:07 | rangi | cool |
| 19:08 | cait | only took me like 5 tries to get it right... it#s good i stopped testing for now |
| 19:09 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ene_Documentation too? | |
| 19:09 | rangi | yeah |
| 19:09 | hopefully our newly elected wiki editor will do some tidying too ;) | |
| 19:16 | hmm people who evaluate software, by doing a literature search ... yeah .. that might work if software NEVER CHANGED | |
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| 19:30 | bag | magnuse: HI |
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| 20:43 | wizzyrea | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15188 well that's a pretty terrible bug. |
| 20:43 | huginn | 04Bug 15188: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , remove_unused_authorities.pl will delete all authorities if zebra is not running |
| 20:43 | bag | wow |
| 20:44 | cait | yep |
| 20:44 | but no patch yet | |
| 20:44 | bag | wonders how often that script is run? |
| 20:44 | * bag | has never but that doesn’t mean someone hasn’t |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | this condition is probably not terrifically common |
| 20:47 | cait | theoretically tho... someone could want to run it in cron |
| 20:47 | to clean up authorities they missed up deleting | |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | right, but zebra has to be not running |
| 20:47 | and under normal circumstances it always is | |
| 20:48 | so it wouldn't pop up thaaaat often | |
| 20:48 | but if you cronned it, yeah it could be terribly dangerous. | |
| 20:48 | cait | yeah... but when it does... it's pretty terrible |
| 20:48 | only way to recover is from backups | |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | yeah |
| 20:48 | very bad no good. | |
| 20:48 | * cait | nods |
| 20:48 | cait | definitely worth fixing |
| 20:59 | xarragon | So when I am manually usig yaz-client against the koha zebra database I get an error message about 'Default' being unavailable. |
| 21:00 | I assume this is the name of the default Database (not present) and I need to perform the equivalent of 'USE DATABASE koha' (from mysql), which should be 'base koha'? | |
| 21:00 | bag | I think it’s biblios |
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| 21:01 | xarragon | bag: Ah, thanks! it works |
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| 21:01 | bag | sweet |
| 21:01 | cait | bag++ |
| 21:01 | also khall++ - thx for qa :) | |
| 21:01 | bag | yay! |
| 21:01 | xarragon | bag++ |
| 21:01 | bag | khall++ |
| 21:03 | cait | I think i can finish bug 14946 later, but we still need qa for bug 12072, bug 14954 and sign off for 14870 then |
| 21:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl |
| 21:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy | |
| 21:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14954 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from holiday related files in folder tools | |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | bug 14870 |
| 21:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System |
| 21:04 | bag | cait I’m going to go make lunch - but I’m your man after lunch to QA those 2 :) (maybe sign off) |
| 21:06 | xarragon | Ah, I can probably use the 'explain' facility to get the database names |
| 21:07 | cait | bag: any help much appreciated :) |
| 21:07 | be a bit careful about the dependencies when you do the sign off | |
| 21:09 | bag | hmm ok I may ask for some help/clarification when I’m back |
| 21:12 | xarragon | Got to love the section numbering of the Z39.59 (2003) spec: |
| 21:12 | "3.2.2.1.2 Database-names | |
| 21:13 | Yes, it is 280 pages long.. But I almost thought it was a phone number at first glance :-) | |
| 21:14 | bag | :D |
| 21:14 | ha | |
| 21:16 | cait | heh |
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| 21:21 | wizzyrea | don't we keep the zebra database names in the koha-conf.xml |
| 21:21 | or are we talking about something else. | |
| 21:22 | it's like biblios and authorities (aren't we creative) | |
| 21:31 | xarragon | wizzyrea: Yes, probably. it is also listed on the 'explain' page.. The default one |
| 21:31 | jcamins | Yes, yes, and don't you know it? :) |
| 21:31 | xarragon | It is just me being completely unfamiliar with yaz/z3* and zebra all at once |
| 21:31 | jcamins | "And I shall call this land... land." |
| 21:31 | :) | |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 21:32 | xarragon | I am basically just trying out doing manual queries directly with the zebra server. |
| 21:35 | End goal being able to understand the syntax of z39.50 so that I can query a specific index/MARC-field from Koha | |
| 21:36 | So I have bee digging through from the filesystem level up through the stack, doing some tutorials and generally abusing the indexer | |
| 21:36 | I was looking the XSLT transformation stuff but got scared, having figured out that field 001 was seemingly actually being indexed already | |
| 21:36 | magnuse | hm, does plack and memcached not play well together? |
| 21:37 | rangi | magnuse: they play together fine |
| 21:38 | magnuse | rangi: not on my server... :-( |
| 21:38 | rangi | what are the symptoms? |
| 21:38 | magnuse | i can log in, but whatever i click on i get "session expired" and the login screen |
| 21:39 | rangi | most likely our bug then |
| 21:40 | because of the silly put memcached stuff in env variables in a apache | |
| 21:41 | magnuse | rangi: uh huh? |
| 21:42 | rangi | so koha bug, not a memcached/plack one .. i bet the variables aren't being passed through, unless we removed it from the apache conf and put it back in koha-conf.xml where it belongs already |
| 21:43 | magnuse | i have it both places, just to be sure... |
| 21:44 | but i guess koha expects it to be in apache config | |
| 21:44 | rangi | try |
| 21:44 | echo "stats items" | nc 127.0.0.1 11211 | |
| 21:44 | see if anything is actually set in your memcached | |
| 21:44 | or | |
| 21:44 | bag | what’s nc ? |
| 21:44 | rangi | netcat |
| 21:44 | bag | thanks |
| 21:48 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "stats items" (62 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/169 |
| 21:49 | * bag | curious to see what you’re looking for |
| 21:49 | rangi | you can then do |
| 21:50 | echo "stats cachedump 1 100" | nc 127.0.0.1 11211 | |
| 21:50 | and 6 | |
| 21:50 | 7 8 20 etc | |
| 21:50 | to see whats actually in there | |
| 21:50 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "stats cachedump" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/170 |
| 21:51 | rangi | right, so it's caching something |
| 21:51 | bag | nice password magnuse ;) |
| 21:51 | just kidding | |
| 21:51 | rangi | id check each of those slabs (the number after items: is a slab id) |
| 21:51 | see if you can find any that have session data | |
| 21:52 | magnuse | bag: huh what where? ;-) |
| 21:52 | bag | HA |
| 21:52 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "maybe 6?" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/171 |
| 21:53 | rangi | yep, those look like them |
| 21:53 | so it looks like it is at least setting them ok | |
| 21:54 | magnuse | similar stuff in 7 and 8 |
| 21:55 | bag | session storage is set to memcache? or it doesn’t matter memcache just stores it anyways? |
| 21:56 | magnuse | SessionStorage = memcached |
| 21:56 | huh, now it seems to be working... | |
| 21:57 | rangi | heh |
| 21:58 | magnuse | yup, it's working |
| 21:59 | it could feel us getting closer, peering into the secrets of memcached, so it decided to behave (for now?) | |
| 22:00 | bag | don’t blink |
| 22:00 | or turn your back | |
| 22:00 | step slowly backwards | |
| 22:00 | magnuse | well, i do plan to sleep pretty soon ;-) |
| 22:01 | bag | just cache your sleep man |
| 22:01 | magnuse | lulz! |
| 22:01 | * bag | secertly proud of that one (self high five) |
| 22:02 | magnuse | well deserved, i'd say! |
| 22:02 | knuckles! | |
| 22:04 | rangi++ for memcached magic - i'll see if i can add it to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]hooting_memcached in a coherent way in the morning | |
| 22:05 | rangi | cool |
| 22:06 | magnuse | btw, when i discovered i had forgoten to install memcached on my experimental plack server i had more than 300k session files in /tmp... |
| 22:07 | rangi | yep, its not pretty |
| 22:07 | magnuse | moved a database from my production server to the plack server. in the database was SessionStorage = memcached, but no memcached on the server |
| 22:07 | eythian | hi |
| 22:07 | wahanui | hello, eythian |
| 22:08 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 22:09 | have fun #koha! | |
| 22:10 | bag | night night magnuse |
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| 22:28 | tcohen | hi |
| 22:28 | dcook | yo tcohen |
| 22:32 | tcohen | volunteers to look at failing tests? |
| 22:36 | * cait | hides |
| 22:40 | dcook | I'm looking at issues with charmaps :) |
| 22:40 | When I should actually be working on a different project all together >_> | |
| 22:40 | Btw, thanks for your comments on Bugzilla, cait :) | |
| 22:41 | I probably won't have time to respond until next week, but thanks :) | |
| 22:41 | * cait | thinks |
| 22:41 | cait | oai? |
| 22:41 | dcook | Yep |
| 22:43 | The charmap one is tricky... | |
| 22:43 | Take the following example: | |
| 22:43 | equivalent ï(ie) | |
| 22:43 | map ïi | |
| 22:43 | It appears that this makes ï and ie equivalent... and ï gets mapped to i | |
| 22:44 | So searches for "siemon" are the same as searches for "sïmon" which as the same as searches for "simon" | |
| 22:44 | map seems to affect indexing and searching, while equivalent only affects searching | |
| 22:44 | As "sïmon" becomes "simon" in the indexes, while "siemon" stays as "siemon" | |
| 22:44 | But I can potentially understand the reasoning for the equivalent directive... | |
| 22:44 | Especially when I look at "equivalent å(aa)" | |
| 22:45 | Since 'aa' and "å" really are equivalent in Scandinavian languages I thin | |
| 22:45 | think* | |
| 22:45 | Of course, I suppose one should be using ICU for multilingual content, although I wonder if that same problem occurs there.. | |
| 22:46 | Probably not... it probably doesn't handle that equivalence | |
| 22:46 | Unless you write your ICU chain for Scandinavian languages.. | |
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| 22:50 | bag | @wunder 97215 |
| 22:50 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 11.8°C (2:50 PM PST on November 17, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:50 | bag | wicked windy here - like 20 mph+ |
| 22:51 | * dcook | had forgotten that bag had moved |
| 22:51 | dcook | Hurray for the pacific northwest :) |
| 22:51 | bag | yay! |
| 22:54 | eythian | bag: 20mph? |
| 22:54 | that's not wind | |
| 22:55 | it's barely a breeze! | |
| 22:55 | wizzyrea | yeah, not wind. |
| 22:55 | >.> | |
| 22:55 | bag | sorry I will go back to being blown in the wind then |
| 22:56 | dcook | 20mph... |
| 22:56 | What's that in sane measurements.. | |
| 22:56 | 32km.. | |
| 22:56 | Bah :p | |
| 22:56 | bag | loud :) |
| 22:57 | I think you all are missing the plus that I added - + as in 20mph + ;) | |
| 22:57 | dcook | Oh and "like" |
| 22:57 | eythian | it's about 30kph here right now, which is to say, not windy at all :) |
| 22:57 | bag | phew |
| 22:58 | dcook | Google says 27km/h :p |
| 22:58 | Can't recall the strongest wind speeds I've encountered... | |
| 22:58 | 60? 80? | |
| 22:58 | eythian | probably around 120-130 here. |
| 22:58 | dcook | I mean being out in. I don't think I've gone out in the triple digits |
| 22:58 | bag | ok so it says gusts up to 56 km/h |
| 23:00 | dcook | https://www.ec.gc.ca/manobs/de[…]g=En&n=361F311D-1 |
| 23:00 | 22-27km, technically classed as a strong breeze | |
| 23:00 | 56-63 violent storm | |
| 23:00 | 64+ hurricane | |
| 23:00 | That doesn't seem right | |
| 23:00 | eythian | oh, it's a severe weather watch day here today. |
| 23:01 | dcook | Ah, knots |
| 23:01 | Not kms | |
| 23:01 | 22 knots is 40km apparently | |
| 23:01 | eythian | oh, for friday we're expecting it to be windy |
| 23:01 | dcook | 56 knots is 103km |
| 23:01 | 56km is 30 knots so.. | |
| 23:01 | Near gale, bag ;) | |
| 23:02 | bag | nice that’s clarified for me :) |
| 23:02 | I wish this gale would quiet down | |
| 23:02 | dcook | But, being in the pacific northwest, you're allowed to complain |
| 23:02 | unjustifiably allowed to complain* | |
| 23:02 | ;) | |
| 23:02 | My favourite thing visiting Vancouver in winter... all the mounds of salt from where people were freaking out about their 6 hours of ice on the roads | |
| 23:02 | bag | excellent - I shall take advantage |
| 23:03 | dcook | Or the sound of snowplows taking off the top layer of asphalt in Vancouver after snow has fallen... and melted before the truck has even gotten there... |
| 23:03 | bag | yeah |
| 23:03 | * dcook | loves taking the piss out of west coast people in winter |
| 23:03 | eythian | apparently 248kph is the highest in Wellington |
| 23:04 | dcook | Fortunately, it's super cold and super windy in Saskatchewan in the winter and super hot in the summer, so we can justifiably complain all year round |
| 23:04 | Nice, eythian | |
| 23:04 | eythian | and ~200 days of the year it's over gale force |
| 23:05 | bag | nice 30 cm of snow up on mount hood - skiing time soon :) |
| 23:19 | tcohen | eythian: can u take a look at 15200? that tests should be context-independent, maybe we introduced a bug |
| 23:19 | eythian | bug 15200 |
| 23:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15200 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot |
| 23:19 | tcohen | btw, did you manage to build the beta? :-D |
| 23:20 | eythian | tcohen: I'm not the 3.22 package manager! :) |
| 23:20 | dcook | hehe |
| 23:20 | tcohen: Thanks for pushing that conditional loading patch! | |
| 23:20 | tcohen | thanks for supporting it! |
| 23:20 | hehe | |
| 23:21 | eythian | tcohen: so the actual failure is those t/Creators.t tests |
| 23:21 | tcohen | mirko filled that bug |
| 23:21 | eythian | though, I guess if it can't find the fonts, that might be wierd |
| 23:21 | tcohen | that's not jenkins problem right now |
| 23:22 | i only take care of jenkins hahahah | |
| 23:22 | well, not there yet | |
| 23:23 | eythian | I'm not sure where it's getting the koha-conf that it uses for building from |
| 23:23 | I thought it might have been the one in etc/ but that has full paths | |
| 23:25 | tcohen | eythian: that's pre-rules right? |
| 23:25 | eythian | no |
| 23:25 | well | |
| 23:25 | I'm pretty sure the rules stuff is applied first | |
| 23:26 | tcohen | k |
| 23:30 | f*ck | |
| 23:31 | it is not mocking C4::Context :'-( | |
| 23:32 | someone should fund rewriting the test suite, at least making it kosher and cover most of the code | |
| 23:33 | bag | done |
| 23:33 | how much? | |
| 23:33 | * cait | is curious about tcohen's reaction |
| 23:33 | tcohen | i'm shocked |
| 23:34 | bag | once we get the grants part of the “fund” done - that’s a good thing to apply for money for :D |
| 23:34 | dcook | :D |
| 23:34 | * tcohen | agrees 100% |
| 23:35 | bag | bobb and galen are writing that part now :) |
| 23:35 | tcohen | I remember when you mentioned in Reno |
| 23:35 | how difficult was to have libraries invest in "hidden stuff" | |
| 23:35 | and several libraries raising their hands at once | |
| 23:35 | saying they cared about the project maintainability | |
| 23:36 | libraries++ | |
| 23:36 | bag | def |
| 23:36 | libraries++ | |
| 23:38 | tcohen | eythian: unset KOHA_CONF ; prove t/Creators.t => FAIL damn |
| 23:40 | eythian | ah |
| 23:40 | but, we do have a koha-conf when running tests I think, don't we? | |
| 23:41 | tcohen | i'm not sure, I don't think so |
| 23:41 | cait | bag: are you testin g14954? |
| 23:42 | bag | yes |
| 23:42 | cait | i would take 12072 next then |
| 23:42 | bag | yes 14954 |
| 23:42 | cait | hm my auto scroll stopped working agian |
| 23:42 | k thx :) | |
| 23:42 | ah, i should probably do 14870 first | |
| 23:43 | tcohen | eythian: i don't see it happening, unless the env's KOHA_CONF is propagated into the pdebuild environment… which owuld point to a non-existing file hm |
| 23:48 | cait | hm that's not looking good |
| 23:48 | oh | |
| 23:48 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 23:49 | cait | just forgot one dependent patch |
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