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| 00:03 | pj left #koha | |
| 00:05 | brick | yes =) |
| 00:06 | dcook | I'd probably spin up a new instance in unimarc and try that instead |
| 00:06 | Converting between unimarc and marc21 isn't a pleasant, or even perfectable, automated task | |
| 00:09 | brick | Yes, perhaps unwrap it was... ohhh демоны кто это поднимал |
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| 01:30 | dcook | One of the downsides of inheritance... trying to find the damned module where a function is initially defined! |
| 01:30 | The error message is for IO::Socket::IP... which is a parent of Net::HTTP... which is a parent of LWP::Protocol::http:::Socket... | |
| 01:31 | But IO::Socket::IP is a child of Socket... | |
| 01:31 | Which is referencing some other module in some interesting way | |
| 01:33 | The problem is in Socket::getnameinfo which is just an alias for Socket::fake_getnameinfo... | |
| 01:33 | And I'm sure the problem is Socket::unpack_sockaddr_in() | |
| 01:34 | But cannot see where unpack_sock_addr_in() is defined... | |
| 01:34 | I wonder if that means it's a C function... | |
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| 01:53 | eythian | it sounds like one |
| 01:54 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 01:54 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (2:30 PM NZDT on November 11, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
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| 02:12 | tcohen | yawn |
| 02:12 | rangi, I'll take a look thanks | |
| 02:12 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 02:12 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 18.9°C (11:10 PM ART on November 10, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
| 02:16 | dcook | But usually with C functions there should be some Dyna Loader or whatever yeah? |
| 02:16 | * dcook | waves to tcohen |
| 02:17 | eythian | http://perldoc.perl.org/Socket.html |
| 02:17 | tcohen | hi dcook |
| 02:17 | * Francesca | waves at dcook and tcohen |
| 02:17 | dcook | eythian: Yeah, that's what I'm looking at now |
| 02:18 | tcohen | hi Francesca |
| 02:18 | dcook | I don't see the function definition in the source though |
| 02:18 | http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]t-2.020/Socket.pm | |
| 02:18 | ahh | |
| 02:18 | EXLoader | |
| 02:18 | XSLoader* | |
| 02:18 | There we go | |
| 02:19 | http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]ket-1.5/Socket.xs | |
| 02:20 | Hmm might not have mattered anyway.. | |
| 02:21 | tcohen | hey, 56.3% code coverage on the tests, great |
| 02:22 | dcook: what are you using such a low-level aPI for? | |
| 02:22 | dcook | EBSCO EDS is getting an error and I can't find where it's from |
| 02:23 | EDS plugin* | |
| 02:23 | Getting a 500 error locally... and getting a HTTP::Response object back when trying to contact the API with the following error: | |
| 02:23 | addr is not a string at /usr/lib/perl5/5.20.1/IO/Socket/IP.pm | |
| 02:23 | So I think it'll be... gethostbyname? | |
| 02:24 | The error message looks familiar | |
| 02:24 | or gethostbyaddr maybe | |
| 02:24 | If it's talking about addr | |
| 02:25 | tcohen | it reminds me name resolution issues |
| 02:25 | dcook | Pretty sure it's a name resolution issue |
| 02:25 | Just not sure how exactly | |
| 02:26 | tcohen | did u already test fixing an address in /etc/hosts? only to make sure? |
| 02:26 | nevermind, i'm too sleepy | |
| 02:27 | dcook | Looks like I"m looking at too old a version of Socket.xs |
| 02:27 | See the error message now.. | |
| 02:27 | xs_getnameinfo in Socket.xs... | |
| 02:29 | Always wondered why CPAN doesn't seem to show XS files in the interface.. | |
| 02:29 | Guess you can download the tar.gz... | |
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| 02:32 | dcook | newXS("Socket::getnameinfo", xs_getnameinfo, __FILE__); |
| 02:32 | Booyah | |
| 02:33 | Anyway, gotta run.. | |
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| 02:35 | dcook | Wow... I'd never heard of SvPOKp() before... |
| 02:35 | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlguts.html | |
| 02:38 | So I'm guessing LWP::Protocol::http::_get_sock_info() might be the culprit... | |
| 02:43 | I'm thinking the server is having trouble looking up information about itself? | |
| 02:47 | Hmm might be any number of things.. | |
| 02:50 | tcohen | dcook: format c: |
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| 03:25 | dac | tcohen: :p |
| 03:28 | eythian | tcohen: can you add this patch? http://paste.koha-community.org/159 |
| 03:28 | (I'm just feeling too lazy to make a bug for it.) | |
| 03:32 | tcohen | eythian: np, but maybe sent it as attachment so i do it once i wake up? |
| 03:32 | eythian | kk |
| 03:35 | * tcohen | loves the existence of HTML::TableExtract |
| 03:35 | tcohen | @later tell rangi I will just get rid of using a regexp for extracting translations info |
| 03:35 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:37 | tcohen | night |
| 03:44 | eythian | new master packages uploading |
| 03:47 | dcook | eythian: Is there a way to use perl -d to step until it can't step anymore? |
| 03:48 | Or do you have to "continue until position"? | |
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| 03:48 | mario | . |
| 03:50 | eythian | dcook: define "can't step any more"? |
| 03:51 | dcook | In this case, I think a fatal error |
| 03:51 | eythian | that terminates the program. You may as well just do "run" then |
| 03:51 | dcook | "run"? |
| 03:52 | eythian | well, press "c" |
| 03:52 | dcook | Basically, I just want to step until it dies so I can see which line did it |
| 03:52 | eythian | ah |
| 03:52 | it doesn't break there per se | |
| 03:52 | doesn't the error message tell you that? | |
| 03:54 | dcook | Well, the error message tells me what line number of the module, but it's a pretty generic function |
| 03:54 | So I'm hoping to look at the function that called that function | |
| 03:54 | As that'll tell me all the things | |
| 03:54 | eythian | what you should be asking is "how do I get a backtrace on an exception" |
| 03:54 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:54 | Yes, yes I should | |
| 03:54 | That would be great | |
| 03:55 | eythian | I can't answer that, but I'm sure I've seen that it's possible |
| 03:55 | I think the Carp module can do it | |
| 03:55 | dcook | Yeah, I think it can too, although only if used in the right place? |
| 03:55 | eythian | i.e. you load it in a special way with -M and it'll something something stacktrace |
| 03:55 | dcook | Yeah? |
| 03:55 | That'd be awesome | |
| 03:55 | eythian | https://metacpan.org/pod/Carp#[…]ing-a-Stack-Trace |
| 03:56 | oh | |
| 03:56 | that's not what you need | |
| 03:56 | that's only good if it's already using that | |
| 03:56 | dcook | Nopes :/ |
| 03:56 | eythian | there must be some way, I'm sure |
| 03:56 | dcook | I'd think so, eh? |
| 03:56 | * eythian | hates modules that don't use carp to give good messages. |
| 03:57 | dcook | ^ |
| 03:57 | Oh ho... did I find something.. | |
| 03:57 | use Carp; | |
| 03:57 | $SIG{ __DIE__ } = sub { Carp::confess( @_ ) }; | |
| 03:57 | Yes | |
| 03:58 | Beautiful | |
| 03:58 | eythian: That one is a keeper | |
| 03:58 | eythian | heh |
| 03:58 | dcook | Fortunately, that confirms what I already suspected... really good having that confirmation though |
| 03:58 | I wonder if I can get any more information.. | |
| 04:00 | I was actually working at catching signals for INT and... TERM the other day | |
| 04:01 | Working on a listener for a unix socket but I couldn't trap the INT while listening on the socket | |
| 04:01 | Could catch the INT before or after I think... but while listening it was too far into the C I think to listen to Perl | |
| 04:02 | Of course, the documentation makes it sound a lot more technical than that :p | |
| 04:02 | eythian | heh |
| 04:02 | it's not something I've really played with | |
| 04:03 | dcook | Hopefully you won't need to! |
| 04:03 | I was thinking about that debugger/logging talk we saw though where he was talking about using IPC to communicate with daemons | |
| 04:04 | So I'm all like "oh yeah, I can use a unix socket for that, sure" | |
| 04:04 | Which actually works pretty well, although I need to do some more research into buffering from unix sockets... | |
| 04:05 | I know with a TCP socket that you need to read in the buffer as you can get multiple packets for a single message, but unsure about unix sockets... | |
| 04:05 | I think it's just a stream so you shouldn't have to buffer... you just read until you get a pre-defined terminator | |
| 04:06 | But yeah... I think signals still count as IPC and it's common to use SIG{TERM} to force a config reload or even a daemon restart... but I can't catch that SIG{TERM} while waiting for a unix socket connection | |
| 04:06 | Anyway... that's totally unrelated to today's issues ^_^ | |
| 04:07 | Except catching the SIG{DIE} and using Carp on it... I wish that I would've thought to do that years ago! | |
| 04:07 | eythian | My understanding is you should treat TCP and UNIX sockets pretty much the same, but I'm no expert at this |
| 04:07 | dcook | So far, that's my understanding as well, but yeah... more research needed |
| 04:08 | I think the maximum size of the messages varies but I think there IS still a maximum and that a person needs to be wary of that... | |
| 04:08 | So you don't wind up truncating the message by accident.. | |
| 04:08 | Even if the protocol I use will be super short and straight forward... I rather do something the right way | |
| 04:13 | Back to my actual problem... | |
| 04:15 | So the error message comes from the generic function IO::Socket::IP::_get_host_service... I knew that | |
| 04:15 | But the specific function which calls that generic function is IO::Socket::IP::peerhost | |
| 04:15 | eythian | check the network |
| 04:15 | dcook | So there's an issue with the peer host address |
| 04:15 | How do you mean? | |
| 04:15 | eythian | well, it's supposed to be doing something. |
| 04:15 | dcook | Ah, that could still be our DNS, couldn't it.. |
| 04:16 | eythian | do that with unix tools and see what happens |
| 04:16 | yeah | |
| 04:16 | or firewalling or something | |
| 04:17 | dcook | Hmm couldn't do a traceroute on it |
| 04:17 | But can do other things like google | |
| 04:17 | Cannot handle "host" cmdline arg | |
| 04:17 | Name or service not known | |
| 04:17 | eythian | that seems suspicious |
| 04:18 | dcook | When I googled the original message, people said vaguely that it had been down to DNS issues.. |
| 04:18 | If I go a wget, it works | |
| 04:19 | Well, actually, it doesn't.. | |
| 04:19 | It's a 400 | |
| 04:19 | But it's still doing the name lookup correctly | |
| 04:19 | eythian | from the server that's running it? |
| 04:19 | dcook | Yeah, same server for both the wget and traceroute |
| 04:19 | eythian | and that is running the code? |
| 04:20 | dcook | yep |
| 04:21 | Can't ping it.. | |
| 04:21 | eythian | sounds like there's a firewall blocking ICMP. |
| 04:21 | mtr will tell you where | |
| 04:23 | dcook | I'll look at mtr then :) |
| 04:26 | mtr shows this: | |
| 04:26 | Failed to resolve host: Name or service not known | |
| 04:26 | eythian | right |
| 04:26 | that's suspicious | |
| 04:28 | dcook | The hell.. |
| 04:28 | wahanui | hmmm... .. is that cause of the custom css, or is it that way for everyone |
| 04:29 | dcook | I just keep trying and now mtr works |
| 04:29 | Well... for a shortened version | |
| 04:29 | eythian | check your DNS servers and make sure they all work |
| 04:29 | dcook | mtr eds-api.ebscohost.com |
| 04:29 | that works | |
| 04:29 | mtr eds-api.ebscohost.com/edsapi/rest/createsession | |
| 04:29 | that doesn't | |
| 04:29 | eythian | it won't |
| 04:29 | mtr is a prettier traceroute | |
| 04:29 | it doesn't take paths | |
| 04:30 | dcook | Ah, that would be logical |
| 04:30 | silly dcook | |
| 04:30 | in that case, traceroute works too :p | |
| 04:30 | eythian | but failing DNS is a bad sign |
| 04:31 | dcook | Well, that's what I'm confused about now |
| 04:31 | When I pull my head out and don't use paths for mtr and traceroute... it works | |
| 04:31 | eythian | oh right |
| 04:31 | dcook | But I'm still getting that IO::Socket::IP error |
| 04:31 | Which... could mean that it's getting something bad in there | |
| 04:31 | I suppose? | |
| 04:31 | eythian | what's the error? |
| 04:31 | dcook | addr is not a string at /usr/lib/perl5/5.20.1/IO/Socket/IP.pm |
| 04:31 | wahanui | i already had it that way, dcook. |
| 04:32 | dcook | I'd like to know what addr is exactly |
| 04:32 | eythian | hmm |
| 04:32 | dcook | Oh right... it's this |
| 04:32 | Well...I don't have the data | |
| 04:32 | $self->peername | |
| 04:36 | sub peerhost { my $self = shift; ( $self->_get_host_service( $self->peername, NI_NUMERICHOST, NIx_NOSERV ) )[0] } | |
| 04:36 | That's where my stacktrace points me | |
| 04:37 | I figure it must be using getpeername (http://man7.org/linux/man-page[…]tpeername.2.html) | |
| 04:37 | eythian | probably |
| 04:37 | though, addr shouldn't be a string there too. | |
| 04:37 | who knows | |
| 04:39 | dcook | Maybe I'm wrong about getpeername... |
| 04:39 | _get_host_service... passes $self->peername to.. | |
| 04:39 | getnameinfo() which is defined in Socket.xs | |
| 04:39 | Midway through it croaks as addr doesn't appear to be a string according to SvPOKp() | |
| 04:40 | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlguts.html | |
| 04:41 | Similarly, generic C code must call the SvGETMAGIC() macro to invoke any 'get' magic if they use an SV obtained from external sources in functions that don't handle magic. | |
| 04:41 | O_O | |
| 04:46 | I'm guessing $sock->peername is an object? | |
| 04:47 | And SvGETMAGIC(addr); is supposed to turn it into a string... | |
| 04:47 | I don't know. The code looks fine? | |
| 04:48 | Ahhh the peername method is from IO::Socket | |
| 04:48 | Good ol' inheritance... | |
| 04:49 | Which is interesting.. | |
| 04:49 | ${*$sock}{'io_socket_peername'} ||= getpeername($sock); (http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]lib/IO/Socket.pm) | |
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| 06:19 | dcook | eythian: I think I know why I was getting that error... |
| 06:19 | Well, vague idea | |
| 06:19 | I think there was a problem with the initial connection | |
| 06:19 | So $sock isn't what getpeername expects it to be | |
| 06:20 | We changed the URL to a few different things and it works | |
| 06:20 | So I think there's something up with EBSCO's API | |
| 06:20 | * dcook | is surprised he hasn't heard anyone else complaining about EDS in that case though... |
| 06:22 | dcook | I really should've realized sooner actually |
| 06:22 | Because there is an earlier request to a different URL with the same hostname and getpeername is working for that | |
| 06:23 | It really looks like something isn't working right for http://eds-api.ebscohost.com/e[…]est/createsession | |
| 06:26 | Actually, I think the connection is successful, but then the server interrupts it or drops it or something... | |
| 06:26 | Other endpoints work | |
| 06:26 | And... it appears that EBSCO has indeed changed the API and there is a new plugin version out as of this afternoon | |
| 06:38 | Looks like a bad authtoken... | |
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| 07:05 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:08 | * cait | waves back |
| 07:09 | magnuse | cait: i'll have a look at bug 13642 as soon as i can find the time for it |
| 07:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13642 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Adding new features for Dublin Core metadata |
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| 07:30 | cait | magnuse: someone asking where to find your work :) |
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| 08:03 | Joubu | hi |
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| 08:14 | mveron | Good morning everybody :-) |
| 08:15 | Joubu: Thanks for taking care of Bug 14946, I signed off. | |
| 08:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl |
| 08:16 | Joubu | thanks mveron |
| 08:16 | mveron | Joubu++ |
| 08:23 | magnuse | mveron++ Joubu++ |
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| 09:31 | bumby | Joubu: Hi, martin here, working on bug 15116 |
| 09:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15116 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , show circ buttons at the top of batch circ page |
| 09:31 | Joubu | hi bumby |
| 09:31 | bumby | trying to figure out a good way to handle this "print slip" shortcut-link |
| 09:31 | I can see your point in it beeing a bit redundant, and perhaps even confusing :P | |
| 09:32 | the idea was to make it so that you wouldn't have to navigate by mouse (which seems be the only reasonable way to reach the print-slip submenuitem) | |
| 09:33 | do you thank it might be a better solution to automaticly open the "Print"-menu and put focus on the "print slip" item? | |
| 09:34 | Joubu | no :) |
| 09:34 | bumby | :D |
| 09:34 | Joubu | It's certainly not a good idea to open something by default |
| 09:34 | Did you try to define shortcut for this link? | |
| 09:36 | bumby | didn't know there was a shortcut system in koha, but if so, that certianly seem like a good idea |
| 09:36 | cait | hm maybe a cookie + checkbox? to open by default? |
| 09:37 | so first ime you click a link, later on it just opens it | |
| 09:37 | bumby | The single item checkout page will print a slip if you hit enter in the barcode textbox if it's empty |
| 09:37 | cait | bumby: that's driven by a system preference |
| 09:37 | CircAutoPrintQuickSlip | |
| 09:40 | bumby | hm, perhaps there could be a CircAutoPrintQuickSlip that will automaticly print a slip after a checkout, without any user interaction needed. I'm a bit unsure of the usability of that though, don't know too well how the system is actually used in reality :P |
| 09:45 | cait | iam not sure you can print in the background in a browser currently |
| 09:46 | so there will probably always be a pop-up | |
| 09:52 | bumby | true, I can see how that would be very annoying |
| 09:53 | I'll go with Frédérics suggestion to limit my patch to what was actually requested, and perhaps open a new one for this feature. | |
| 09:58 | cait | sounds like a good idea |
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| 10:43 | mveron | Joubu, I signed off blocking bugs for Bug 14969 |
| 10:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files |
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| 10:47 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 11:16 | mveron | Lunchtime... |
| 11:16 | wahanui | lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
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| 11:35 | * andreashm | waves |
| 11:38 | drojf | hi andreashm |
| 11:46 | andreashm | hi drojf! |
| 12:01 | anyone working with a union catalogue here? | |
| 12:06 | drojf | andreashm: what do you mean by "working with"? |
| 12:09 | andreashm | well, that have libraries that are connected to a union catalogue. |
| 12:09 | preferably one that uses bibliographic and holdings records. | |
| 12:09 | I know BSZ does, but cait isn't around... | |
| 12:10 | cait | am back now :) |
| 12:10 | andreashm | sweet! |
| 12:13 | potentially, if you where to use OAI-PMH to harvest records from the union catalogue into your local Koha instance (if you even have that workflow), and for server reasons there where separate flow for bib and holdings set up: would you prefer to first download and import bibs and then connect relevant holdings records or the other way around (holdings first, and the connect and download/import the bibs)? | |
| 12:13 | heh, I don't know if I've ever written such an hypothetical question | |
| 12:14 | cait | um |
| 12:14 | i think first the bibliographic | |
| 12:14 | drojf | can you have holdings without bib records in koha? |
| 12:14 | cait | in case it's a new record |
| 12:14 | but i might be missing something :) | |
| 12:14 | andreashm | The Swedish way of doing it is to look at the holdings first, and then connect the bibs... just because you do most changes in the holdings records. I'm wondering if we are alone in this workflow. |
| 12:15 | cait | hm in our workflow |
| 12:15 | andreashm | drojf: I don't think so - these will have to be merged. Which is a little difficult since Koha doesn't have holdings records. |
| 12:15 | cait | we merge information from the holdings into the bilbiographic record |
| 12:15 | so actually we merge and import once | |
| 12:15 | because the holdings include information about local URLs, classification, subjects... | |
| 12:16 | on my slides this is what the "converter" does that we use withour nightly imports | |
| 12:16 | andreashm | yes, the import should preferably only be once. |
| 12:16 | cait | maybe another difference is that we get always matching records |
| 12:17 | so we get a file set | |
| 12:17 | drojf | cait: is the workflow in the bsz wiki? that will probably be interesting for the seminar |
| 12:17 | andreashm | even if going for holdings first, these would have to be staged somehow I guess to be marged when the bibs are downloaded... otherwise Koha would have difficulties. =) |
| 12:17 | cait | with the bibliographic and holdings and authorities each night - that is specific to the library |
| 12:17 | drojf: it's on some of my slides i think... the wiki is probably not qute up to date | |
| 12:18 | andreashm | cait: we have a similar functionality... batch exports. but we would like it to be much, much faster... thus OAI-PMH. |
| 12:18 | cait | andreashm: we have solved that outside of Koha basically |
| 12:18 | we create a marc file for koha .... and then use the staged tools from command line | |
| 12:18 | for oai... we'd probably still have a conversion step that happens outside of koha | |
| 12:18 | andreashm | cait: that makes sense |
| 12:21 | cait | not ideal... but hm |
| 12:21 | not sue how to solve it differently as long as the holdings are separate | |
| 12:21 | andreashm | cait: on your ealier question: new records should be included even if looking at holdings first, as long as the bib actually has any holdings? (and for us, if a bib doesn't have holdings we don't want it in Koha) |
| 12:21 | cait | if they were included in the bilbiographic file... maybe you could have an xslt conversion step or something like that in koha deal with it |
| 12:22 | andreashm: sorry, i don't quite understand | |
| 12:22 | andreashm | yeah, it's a bit difficult. |
| 12:23 | you said that the reason for looking at bibs first is in case there is a new record. but a new record should have a holding as well? | |
| 12:24 | * andreashm | wishes Koha had holdings records, if only for this reason |
| 12:25 | magnuse | there is no way to have itemtype icons show up in opac result lists, right? even if records have 942$c set? |
| 12:26 | ah, item-level_itypes. but that changes several things at once... | |
| 12:28 | cait | magnuse: i thought there is bug for that somewhere |
| 12:30 | hmmm | |
| 12:30 | magnuse | yeah, i think so too |
| 12:30 | cait | andreashm: i am not sure... holdings are quite complicated |
| 12:30 | you could probably teach koha about them, but it would be complicated | |
| 12:31 | magnuse | bug 7492 |
| 12:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7492 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Split item-level_itypes in two |
| 12:31 | cait | or could turn out to be... the 852 does not exactly match our 952 |
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| 12:53 | magnuse | kia ora tcohen! |
| 12:54 | tcohen | hi! |
| 12:54 | cait | hi tcohen |
| 12:55 | tcohen | hi! |
| 12:55 | it is beta time! | |
| 12:55 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 12:55 | cait | :) |
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| 13:06 | andreashm | . |
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| 13:19 | cabillman | Hi everyone. I'm starting to prep for a 3.22 upgrade. I would like to split our opac + staff access onto two seperate servers. Are there any guides for that kind of setup? |
| 13:20 | Joubu | tcohen: I have just attached a quick followup on 14544, please push :-/ |
| 13:20 | (debug mesg in opac-search) | |
| 13:20 | cabillman | sepecifically zebra - i'm not sure if i need to run one instance and have it listen on the network. Or if I can run two instances one on each server |
| 13:20 | tcohen | Joubu: was about to, as soon as i got notified by chrome .-D |
| 13:27 | andreashm | cait: regarding automatic renewals - having that on, means that a user cannot manually renew an item? is that correct? |
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| 13:52 | tiuna | Hello everyone!, I've a small question, I need to setup some rule for calculate a suspension based on the double o overdues days, someone of you knows? |
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| 13:59 | tcohen | tiuna: again? |
| 14:01 | you usually set the frecquency of the calculation to x and the suspension days to y, so for each x overdue days, it will add y suspension days. | |
| 14:01 | For example: x=1 and y=2 will add 2 suspension days for each overdue day | |
| 14:01 | so the double | |
| 14:02 | tiuna | where I setup X & Y? |
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| 14:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15102: Fix capitalization for some strings on XSLT detail pages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]230039d839404e5c9> / Bug 14553: Silencing warn triggered when clearing item rating on OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]607349adbf16344be> / Bug 14998: Restore previous behavior <http://git.koha-community.org/git |
| 14:23 | cait | cabillman: hm actally i am not sure if waht you want to do is possible - separating opac and staff. separating mysql, zebra and koha I should be possible |
| 14:24 | cabillman | cait: we already have separate mysql server |
| 14:24 | cait: we had a situation where a bunch of classes were teaching opac use and it was causing slow downs for the librarians running checkouts | |
| 14:25 | my thought was to seperate them to minimize the impact clients can have on the staff functions | |
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| 14:36 | cait | I haven't heard about separating staff and opac... I think in theory maybe you could have 2 kohas pointing to the same database... but that's more something you shoudl discuss with a system administrator (not me :) ) |
| 14:36 | cabillman | cait: thanks :) |
| 14:36 | cait: would i be better off posting this to the mailing list? | |
| 14:37 | drojf | cabillman: don't use the a production server to teach maybe? |
| 14:37 | anyway i am interested in the question in general :) | |
| 14:38 | cabillman | drojf: the situation was k-6 students being tought how to use the opac to find books |
| 14:38 | i'm sure our librarians want them using the real opac... | |
| 14:38 | cait | hm also showing htem the user accounts i guess - it's a normal thing |
| 14:39 | maybe the queston is why it slowed down your system so much | |
| 14:39 | drojf | what cait says. i mean, what number of people using the opac at once do we talk about? |
| 14:39 | i would not expect that to happen | |
| 14:40 | at least not on a server where you consider splitting staff and opac instead of upgrading your hardware ;) | |
| 14:40 | cabillman | to give a little bit of context... our librarians have like 30 students line up with two books each and try to check them out as fast as possible |
| 14:40 | we have 10 buildings | |
| 14:40 | since they have kids lining up they are SUPER sensitive to slow downs | |
| 14:41 | like a 3 second pause causes my phone to ring... | |
| 14:41 | something must have gone wrong on one of the student machines because apache had like 200 requests to the opac in the span of 10 seconds | |
| 14:44 | we have it running in our vmware cluster. I've already given it over 16 gigs of ram just for web/zebra box. mysql is on a different vm | |
| 14:47 | cait | maybe split of zebra indexes? |
| 14:48 | cabillman | does anything get written to zebra? or is it just for seraching |
| 15:01 | cait | it#s used for searching - the indexes are updated when a record or item record is changed |
| 15:21 | talljoy | good morning #koha |
| 15:23 | * druthb | waves to talljoy. |
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| 15:41 | talljoy | hiya druthb |
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| 16:35 | mveron | Jobu++ for Bug 14969 |
| 16:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files |
| 16:37 | * mveron | has to prepare a meeting |
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| 16:50 | bag | heya |
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| 17:17 | Joubu | tcohen: erk, back to the dark side, master is unstable |
| 17:19 | cait | :( |
| 17:19 | cya all later | |
| 17:20 | bag | bye bye |
| 17:21 | Joubu | tcohen: ha no, it's U14 |
| 17:22 | Hi and bye bag :) | |
| 17:22 | See you tomorrow #koha | |
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| 17:22 | bag | hi Joubu |
| 17:22 | bye bye Joubu | |
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| 17:58 | tcohen | khall: are you trying to run kohadevbox inside a VM? |
| 17:58 | khall | not sure what you mean. I'm trying to set it up on my macbook. I was able to set it up on my mac pro just fine last week! |
| 17:58 | any ideas? | |
| 17:58 | wahanui | any ideas are welcome :) |
| 17:58 | tcohen | khall: yes, you are missing ansible! |
| 17:59 | khall | thanks! that's not in the installation instructions afaict |
| 17:59 | I wonder how I managed to have it installed on my desktop ; ) | |
| 18:00 | bag | heh hi there tcohen |
| 18:00 | khall | for some reason I was thinking that was something vagrant would bootstrap install on the vm. thanks tcohen! |
| 18:00 | tcohen | khall: that would actually make sense |
| 18:00 | for instance, mtompset didn't find a way to run it on a windows host | |
| 18:00 | and installing ansible inside the VM would make things easier | |
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| 18:07 | tcohen | khall: thanks for pointing the missing ansible info |
| 18:07 | i wasn't aware of the opmission | |
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| 18:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13799: (PM followup) Dependency updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1150c2a44acefd67b> |
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| 19:03 | pianohacker | khall: rt 30345 |
| 19:08 | * cait | waves |
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| 19:13 | * pianohacker | waves at wrong channel |
| 19:24 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 19:25 | bag | khall http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15176 |
| 19:25 | huginn | 04Bug 15176: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a sanity check when starting SIP2 (permissions) |
| 19:26 | cait | pianohacker: we are the wrong channel??? |
| 19:26 | pianohacker | cait: to mention an internal ticket yes :) |
| 19:27 | bag | nothing to see here (bag waves his hand like a ginny-jedi) |
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| 20:27 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | @later tell wnickc thanks, I will give it a look :D |
| 20:27 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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| 20:37 | * cait | waves |
| 20:43 | bag | hey wizzyrea |
| 20:43 | wahanui | well, wizzyrea is having serious trouble with the last bits of words today. |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | forget wizzyrea |
| 20:46 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea |
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| 21:07 | mveron-away | Gooed evening / daytime #koha |
| 21:07 | Good | |
| 21:07 | * mveron-away | should put his glasses... |
| 21:12 | mveron | tcohen: Failing test on bug 14985 was due to missing dependency on bug 15166 |
| 21:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14985 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from 6 files in folder C4/*.pm |
| 21:12 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15166 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Make output_pref accept a string as parameter | |
| 21:12 | mveron | ...and hi everybody :-) |
| 21:14 | @wunder Allschwil | |
| 21:14 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.0°C (10:00 PM CET on November 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:15 | cait | hi mveron :) |
| 21:15 | mveron | Hi cait :-) |
| 21:15 | bag | @weather austin, tx |
| 21:15 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in West End, Austin, Texas is 29.1°C (3:15 PM CST on November 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:17 | mveron | Oh, that is a little bit warmer... |
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| 21:19 | bag | heh it’s too hot here mveron |
| 21:19 | and humid | |
| 21:20 | this is where I came from yesterday | |
| 21:20 | @weather 97215 | |
| 21:20 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 9.1°C (1:19 PM PST on November 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:20 | bag | HAHA even more humidity :P |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | kittyland love center? |
| 21:20 | what happens there? | |
| 21:20 | bag | funny right |
| 21:20 | mveron | The best temperature is around 24°C... And dry... |
| 21:21 | bag | yeah :) |
| 21:30 | tcohen | mveron-away: thanks for pointing that out |
| 21:30 | any QA team member willing to test 15166? | |
| 21:32 | jenkins_koha: health Koha_Master_D7 | |
| 21:32 | jenkins_koha | Koha_Master_D7: Health [Clover Coverage: Conditionals 38% (6970/18426)(54%), Test Result: 0 tests failing out of a total of 17,216 tests.(100%), Build stability: No recent builds failed.(100%): http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/584/ |
| 21:32 | tcohen | jenkins_koha: botsnack |
| 21:32 | jenkins_koha | tcohen: you're so kind to me! |
| 21:32 | bag | I can take a look tcohen |
| 21:33 | cait | bug 15166 |
| 21:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15166 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Make output_pref accept a string as parameter |
| 21:33 | cait | i am kind of on my way to that... but wouldn't mind anyone beating me to it :) |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | for your testing amusement, https://www.koha-community.org |
| 21:34 | tcohen | wizzyrea: wildcard? |
| 21:34 | cait | hm? |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | not sure, gmcharlt did the procurement of the certs |
| 21:34 | if it works, we're winning :) | |
| 21:34 | I think so | |
| 21:35 | * wizzyrea | ought to go back and reread all the things he's said to me again, I've slept since I last did |
| 21:35 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea: it shows green | |
| 21:36 | so it works heh | |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | fantastic :) |
| 21:36 | tcohen | i would like to mention that here we are dropping nginx for reverse proxying |
| 21:37 | (we use a wildcard cert on the proxy pointing to the hosts that serve the services, for easier deployment of the certs) | |
| 21:37 | but we found that at some high amount of requests the default nginx configurations didn't help | |
| 21:37 | and they required re-compilation | |
| 21:37 | to change them | |
| 21:38 | unless you pay nginx pro or smth like that | |
| 21:39 | https://koha-community.org/ works too | |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | \o/ should do, that's what I told it to do. :D |
| 21:40 | cait | wizzyrea: looks good - but firefox tells me it has blocked some unsafe things |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | oh right yeah I need to clear the cache |
| 21:40 | I've fixed that | |
| 21:40 | cait | images? |
| 21:40 | wahanui | images are showing a bit ... hope that doesn't break things |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | there will be a bit of that |
| 21:40 | yeah | |
| 21:40 | cait | it's usually what happens to me |
| 21:40 | :) | |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | that's what happens when you use a full path instead of a relative one |
| 21:41 | you have to fix all that kind of stuff. | |
| 21:41 | I figured I'd get the homepage all golden, then make my way through | |
| 21:44 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | theoretically you shouldn't see any blocked things on the homepage now |
| 21:45 | (I cleared the cache) | |
| 21:45 | (you might have to clear your cache too) | |
| 21:45 | (I don't, if that's encouraging) | |
| 21:49 | RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(.*)?koha-community\.org [NC] < would this mean that the rule only applies to http:// | |
| 21:49 | I am so dumb at rewrite rules. | |
| 21:50 | cait | i have never written one, you are way ahead :) |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea: hm still the little sign for me | |
| 21:50 | but can't see what it exactly complains about | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | if you click the sign |
| 21:50 | and click "more information | |
| 21:51 | then click "media" | |
| 21:51 | it shows all good for me | |
| 21:51 | but interested to know what yours says | |
| 21:51 | cait | yeah for me too |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | plus I'm never sure if the simple cache dump ever works |
| 21:51 | so might have to do a full one :) | |
| 21:51 | cait | thy are all from https://.... |
| 21:51 | not obvious what it#s annoyed about | |
| 21:52 | oh i have an idea | |
| 21:52 | hn nope that didn't work | |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | what page specifically are you looking at? |
| 21:55 | just the home page? | |
| 21:55 | and with what browser | |
| 21:56 | cait | firefox |
| 21:56 | the main page | |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | do you mean the half grey one or the triangle exclamation point one? |
| 21:56 | cait | triangle |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | because mine says "content is blocked" but shows me the lock. |
| 21:56 | cait | it does show the lock, but with a triangle |
| 21:57 | green lock, grey triangle | |
| 21:57 | eythian | hi |
| 21:58 | dcook: so I heard there's an issue with the EDS API | |
| 21:58 | cait | hm a sign off ofr bug 15030 would be nice |
| 21:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15030 blocker, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , Certain values in serials' items are lost on next edit |
| 21:58 | cait | item loss bug |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | eythian: did alvet stop by yesterday? he might today. |
| 22:01 | cait: I think I see something that might be doing it | |
| 22:01 | 2 shakes | |
| 22:02 | eythian | wizzyrea: he didn't |
| 22:09 | bag | why are my tests failing |
| 22:09 | silly tests | |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | is it creators.t? |
| 22:10 | on a kohadevbox? | |
| 22:10 | are you using koha-shell, and not setting the perl5lib? | |
| 22:10 | to your git checkout | |
| 22:10 | bag | yes creators.t |
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| 22:11 | wizzyrea | don't worry about it |
| 22:11 | tcohen | bag: you should run tests using |
| 22:11 | bag | but I want to :P |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | mason did a patch for it |
| 22:11 | tcohen | sudo koha-shell kohadev |
| 22:11 | cd kohaclone | |
| 22:11 | prove t/Creators.t | |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | do you have your koha-shell set to point to your git checkout tcohen? |
| 22:12 | tcohen | nope |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | I almost always have this problem on a gitified install. |
| 22:12 | tcohen | i just cd kohaclone once in |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea: we fix it in kohadevbox:ansible | |
| 22:12 | by dropping a .bashrc file inside kohadev user | |
| 22:13 | home | |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14602 |
| 22:13 | huginn | 04Bug 14602: minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Fix failing t/Creators.t test, when using koha-shell |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | this must be a difference between ubuntu and debian, since it's uneven in appearance |
| 22:14 | tcohen | wizzyrea: i do it in jessie |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | oh yay that one's been pushed. |
| 22:14 | that explains why I don't see it on master anymore ^.^ | |
| 22:14 | bag | yeah I need to upgrade to jessie soon |
| 22:14 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/7AaJ6.jpg |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | dunno, I get that one all the time |
| 22:15 | tcohen | wizzyrea: i switch between wheezy, trusty and jessie each time i start my day |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | anyway, it happens sometimes, and I don't much worry about it. |
| 22:15 | because I know why it' shappening and others don't seem to have the problem. | |
| 22:18 | tcohen | wizzyrea: this is what we put in the instance's home directory https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]nstance_bashrc.j2 |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | sweet |
| 22:18 | tcohen | that way all tests (including those that go through apache) can be run inside the koha-shell |
| 22:19 | next step will be that once bag pushes Joubu's selenium scripts, we add the dependencies to kohadevbox too | |
| 22:19 | bag | :) |
| 22:28 | cait | Bug 15030 - Certain values in serials' items are lost on next edit - anyone? :) |
| 22:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15030 blocker, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , Certain values in serials' items are lost on next edit |
| 22:30 | wnickc | cait: I couldn't recreate, I thought was just me, but maybe more details on process? |
| 22:31 | cait | hm let me see |
| 22:32 | where did you edit? | |
| 22:32 | in cataloguing or from the serial collection page? | |
| 22:33 | i think that it happens when you reedit a serial issue item from within the serials module | |
| 22:34 | wnickc | I don't remember right now, but I can try again when back in office next week |
| 22:35 | I thought I tried both | |
| 22:36 | and hi cait ;-) | |
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| 22:40 | cait | hi wnickc :) |
| 22:40 | wnickc++ | |
| 22:40 | bag | man I pay attention to kyle and pianohacker talking and cait steals my qa bug from under me :P |
| 22:40 | cait++ | |
| 22:40 | cait | hehe |
| 22:40 | bag | heh |
| 22:40 | cait | there are enough left! |
| 22:40 | bag | yessem |
| 22:40 | cait | anthing dates would be good and all bugs |
| 22:40 | bag | we are showing wnickc and barton git aliases and qa-tools now |
| 22:41 | will be back in a bit | |
| 22:41 | :) | |
| 22:41 | cait | i am on bug 14969 now |
| 22:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files |
| 22:42 | cait | if you have soome good git aliases... put them on the wiki :) |
| 22:43 | wnickc | wiki++ |
| 22:43 | * wnickc | is always surprised at how much is there |
| 23:07 | cait | wnickc, wizzyrea: http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/pic_4cae7b.png |
| 23:07 | the text in the images tab - does it work? | |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | seems ok to me |
| 23:07 | cait | it was before: |
| 23:07 | please <a>upload</a> one. | |
| 23:08 | wizzyrea | yes, much better then |
| 23:08 | cait | oki |
| 23:08 | better for translations too :) | |
| 23:08 | wizzyrea | You could even change the button to say "Upload file" and remove the please select... text |
| 23:09 | which I think is even better for translation? | |
| 23:09 | fewer words anyway. | |
| 23:09 | and not, I think, less usable. | |
| 23:11 | we have a lot of places where we have too many words. | |
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| 23:50 | cait | wizzyrea: argh - missed your comments |
| 23:50 | i passed qa on it after you saidit was ok :) | |
| 23:51 | would you mind adding your idea to the bug? it's bug 15154 | |
| 23:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15154 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Allow correct translation for upload local cover image |
| 23:52 | cait | @later tell drojf can you take a look at bug 15058? updates to the german web installer |
| 23:52 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:58 | cait | night |
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