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| 00:12 | dcook | eythian: Ha! Another long email! |
| 00:12 | Fortunately this one is more on point... and actually solicited :p | |
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| 00:24 | eythian | dcook: I don't see it |
| 00:25 | dcook | Hmm maybe it hasn't been sent out yet |
| 00:25 | I have a bit to add to it anyway.. | |
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| 02:21 | tcohen | hi |
| 02:21 | wahanui | privet, tcohen |
| 02:27 | eythian | gmcharlt_: is there anything you need to know about the package release process? You have the GPG key for it? |
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| 04:08 | dcook | I thought that the package installs automatically backed up Koha? |
| 04:08 | Or is that a cronjob you have to automate yourself? | |
| 04:10 | Yeah... cron.daily/koha-common | |
| 04:10 | koha-run-backups --days 2 --output /var/spool/koha | |
| 04:11 | Beauty | |
| 04:11 | eythian | yeah, all automagic |
| 04:14 | dcook | Just the way I like it |
| 04:42 | Amit_Gupta | hi all |
| 05:56 | dcook | 4 minutes to clear my inbox! |
| 05:56 | Can I do it? | |
| 05:56 | * dcook | shakes his head but tries anyway |
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| 07:19 | fridolin | bonjouuuuur |
| 07:22 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
| 07:33 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:34 | magnuse | dcook: Ctrl-A + Delete? |
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| 07:51 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:54 | Joubu | hi |
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| 07:57 | jajm | hi |
| 07:57 | wahanui | kia ora, jajm |
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| 08:06 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:16 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:18 | * cait | waves |
| 08:25 | * magnuse | waves back |
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| 08:53 | Koha_IM | Hi... First time here!! |
| 08:53 | Need Help in deleting catalog records (after batch record, item deletion)... can anyone help? | |
| 08:55 | ?? | |
| 09:02 | Joubu | Maybe, what's your question? |
| 09:07 | Koha_IM | I imported some data as a test into KOHA and it was successful... After the test i deleted it |
| 09:07 | using batch record and item deletion in the tools section of KOHA | |
| 09:08 | I can still see those books in the OPAC and the intranet access | |
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| 09:09 | Koha_IM | I also ran rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x" the command prompt said cleaned but still these records are pressent |
| 09:10 | cait | did you empty out the database totally? |
| 09:14 | Joubu | Do you access to the detail page? |
| 09:17 | Koha_IM | @cait Yes i did |
| 09:17 | huginn | Koha_IM: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 09:19 | Koha_IM | @Joubu..detail page? sorry I am completely new to Koha learning it to catalog a charity based library |
| 09:19 | huginn | Koha_IM: I suck |
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| 09:20 | Joubu | What happen when you click on the title link from the result page? |
| 09:23 | Koha_IM | it says "The record you requested does not exist" |
| 09:24 | Joubu | So the records are still indexer and correctly deleted. How did you install Koha? Which version are you using? |
| 09:24 | indexed* | |
| 09:25 | Koha_IM | I am using Koha version 3.20.02.000 |
| 09:26 | Koha was installed for this library by a local software company whose support ended after that. | |
| 09:27 | I am learning it as I go along. They have been unable to implement it for the past 1 year I have taken up the project voluntarily to seen if I can | |
| 09:31 | Joubu | The support company haven't been able to make the zebra's indexation working in 1 year and now the support's contract is ended? |
| 09:31 | wonderful | |
| 09:31 | Koha_IM: Are you sure you don't get errors on running the rebuild_zebra script? | |
| 09:33 | Koha_IM | Actually the company installed the software and did not provide any support after installing. |
| 09:34 | No the script runs fine | |
| 09:36 | Joubu | Either you are updating the wrong index, or the indexation went wrong, I don't see another reason at your problem :) |
| 09:37 | Koha_IM | can you elaborate that please :/ |
| 09:38 | Joubu | Koha_IM: I have forgotten an important check :) Go on the about page and check if there is not error |
| 09:41 | Koha_IM | no error on the about page |
| 09:42 | checked all the tabs in about as well cant find any error except for 2 perl modules that need updating | |
| 09:46 | Joubu | Koha_IM: did you read http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]leshooting_Zebra? |
| 09:46 | erk, remove the '?' at the end | |
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| 09:47 | Viktor | Hi #koha ! |
| 09:48 | Asking zebra for what 001 + 003 values belong to a certain biblionumber - doable or is there a better way? | |
| 09:50 | Koha_IM | Joubu: came across it but I dont understand half of it to be frank |
| 09:50 | Viktor | (We need to query the ILS-DI getAvailability but only have 001 as incoming value and parsing the whole database for the MARCXML-blobs would be painful) |
| 09:51 | (In the long run we'd love to see the possibility to index user specified fields from the MARC-record in the database to make things like this possible. But for now we look for a bit of a hack) | |
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| 09:56 | gaetan_B | Viktor: that's actually a debate i had with other librarians |
| 09:56 | my understanding of the marc21 standard is that 001 should hold the biblionumber (which is what we do in unimarc) | |
| 09:56 | it's then easier with ilsdi and all | |
| 09:57 | but not everyone agrees on that | |
| 09:57 | (i'm not sure i am really answering your question here...) | |
| 09:57 | Viktor | gaetan_B: Interesting! Does that mean that imported records get's a new 001? Is the old one then discarded or just moved somewhere? |
| 09:57 | gaetan_B | An imported record gets a new 001, and the old one gets discarded. |
| 09:57 | Joubu | Koha_IM: Does yaz-client sound familiar to you? |
| 09:58 | gaetan_B | (that's the way it works by default in unimarc) |
| 09:58 | Viktor | Thanks. But also ouch. That makes things a bit more difficult. |
| 09:58 | Koha_IM | Joubu: Nope Sorry :S |
| 09:59 | Viktor | gaetan_B Then we'll have to see if we can get the external service to send us ISBN instead. |
| 09:59 | gaetan_B | for some marc21 clients which required biblionumber in 001 (usually for integration with other tools such as VUFind) we changed the set up so that the biblionumber does go in 001 (you have to change the koha mappings, the zebra indexes, and the xslt for it to work) |
| 09:59 | Joubu | Koha_IM: Could you paste the result of the rebuild_zebra cmd? |
| 09:59 | paste? | |
| 09:59 | wahanui | paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 09:59 | gaetan_B | depending on the external service, you could have an xslt (z3950) or a modification template (for batch import) to move the old 001 elsewhere i guess |
| 09:59 | Viktor | gaetan_B++ Highly useful information - thanks! To bad we didn't think of that before starting to import :) |
| 10:03 | Joubu | Koha_IM: what's the result of `grep zebra_bib_index_mode $KOHA_CONF` ? |
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| 10:03 | Koha_IM | Joubu: if you mean when I rebuild it as root ".../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -run-as-root -b -a -z" well there is nothing it says "rootkoha:" |
| 10:06 | Joubu | no, don't run it as root :-/ |
| 10:06 | I meant when you run it, as usual | |
| 10:07 | using the first cmd you give us, with -x | |
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| 10:12 | Koha_IM | Joubu: "<zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>" when i run grep zebra_bib_index_mode $KOHA_CONF |
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| 10:21 | Joubu | Koha_IM: did you paste the result of the rebuild_zebra command? |
| 10:33 | Koha_IM | Joubu: I have someone on the server end (someone who knows linux)...please give me a moment |
| 10:41 | magnuse | gaetan_B, Viktor: for marc21 and normarc, 001 and 003 is kept intact by default, i think. that is very important for people like cait and her union catalogue |
| 10:41 | i have created bug 9921 to have an alternative way | |
| 10:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo.lopez, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber |
| 10:44 | magnuse | lunchtime! |
| 10:44 | wahanui | lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
| 10:48 | Koha_IM | Joubu: Can't locate Koha.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14. 2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.1 4 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /etc/perl/C4/Context.pm li ne 106. |
| 10:48 | > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /etc/perl/C4/Context.pm line 106. | |
| 10:48 | > Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zeb ra.pl line 6. | |
| 10:48 | > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild _zebra.pl line 6. | |
| 10:48 | when i dont run it as root | |
| 10:50 | Joubu | Koha_IM: Sorry, I won't have a lot of time to help you. You get this error because your KOHA_CONF variable is not defined. It should be set to your koha-conf.xml file |
| 10:50 | export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/your/koha-conf.xml | |
| 10:50 | then try again | |
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| 10:52 | Joubu | you should also check your zebra versions (search on the wiki which one is recommended) |
| 10:55 | Koha_IM | Joubu: I did and the error is the same but when i run as root it compiles successfully |
| 10:56 | also I have previously loaded the following environment variables in koha.sh | |
| 10:56 | export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib | |
| 10:56 | export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/rmi/koha-conf.xml | |
| 11:01 | Joubu | And? Does it work know? |
| 11:02 | Koha_IM: I am not following you, 2 hours ago you pasted 'rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x"', 1 hour ago it was " -run-as-root -b -a -z" | |
| 11:03 | Koha_IM | Okay let me explain. |
| 11:03 | Joubu | please use -b -r -v -x using the correct koha user, then check the permissions on the zebra index files |
| 11:06 | Koha_IM | I imported my books using marc file but they were not being imported into the catalog from the reservoir for which I set a cron job and also rebuild the "rebuild_zebra.pl" after that manually |
| 11:06 | this time i rebuild it as -run-as-root- | |
| 11:08 | when i deleted those records i was unable to delete them completely (as explained in the posts above) so I searched and found that compiling rebuild_zebra.pl with "-b -r -v -x" will clean my records but that failed after I tried it | |
| 11:09 | Joubu | If that fail with "Can't locate", try `export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib` before |
| 11:15 | Koha_IM | tried now it says "coudn't open .../koha-conf.xml" |
| 11:42 | cait | magnuse: thx :) |
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| 11:50 | Joubu | Koha_IM: Check the permissions on the koha-conf.xml file |
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| 12:00 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 12:03 | magnuse | cait: ? |
| 12:03 | moin drojf | |
| 12:03 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 12:04 | cait | hi drojf |
| 12:04 | drojf | hi cait |
| 12:11 | mtj | hey #koha |
| 12:12 | aahh meh.. KohaIM has left - i was going to suggest to use the packages commands.. | |
| 12:14 | # koha_rebuild_zebra -f mykoha | |
| 12:14 | etc.. | |
| 12:16 | oh well.. hopefully they will be back again | |
| 12:18 | cait | magnuse: 001 etc. |
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| 12:24 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:26 | cait | morning tcohen |
| 12:26 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 12:26 | mveron | Hi again everybody |
| 12:26 | tcohen | hey mveron |
| 12:27 | how are those patches doing? | |
| 12:28 | mveron | tcohen: At the moment I'm working on Bug 14969 |
| 12:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files |
| 12:28 | tcohen | awesome, let me know anything you need |
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| 12:32 | xarragon | Hmm, do we have deps on Data::SearchEngine::Zebra? |
| 12:32 | (for tests) | |
| 12:33 | tcohen | not on master |
| 12:35 | magnuse | cait: ah |
| 12:36 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 12:37 | Joubu | tcohen: o/ |
| 12:37 | xarragon | tcohen: Ok, thanks. I think something is wrong with my @INC anyway here.. |
| 12:38 | tcohen | xarragon: you can always try git grep "Data::Search" on the repo |
| 12:41 | xarragon | tcohen: Yeah but it is only one of several problems I get when running tests. Seems my cpanm-installed stuff (in a sep. directory) is not being picked up any longer, as well as internal Koha stuff. |
| 12:42 | tcohen: Normally the include path never gives me trouble, so I dismissed it up until now. | |
| 12:42 | "it is not what you don't know that gets you, it is what you know for sure but turns out that you are wrogn about that does." | |
| 12:43 | tcohen | xarragon: why are you messing with deps? |
| 12:44 | that's what 'apt-get install koha-perldeps' is for | |
| 12:45 | xarragon | Well it is a dev install and I use debian with manual cpanm overlay in a separate install |
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| 12:45 | xarragon | But it turns out the trailing 'lib/perl5' had gotten trimmed off the PERL5LIB path. |
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| 12:46 | Joubu | mveron-away: erk |
| 12:46 | away | |
| 12:47 | Hey :) | |
| 12:47 | mveron | Joubu? |
| 12:47 | wahanui | Joubu is probably not sure how to fix that correctly |
| 12:47 | tcohen | not anymore it seems |
| 12:47 | Joubu | yes, I am never sure |
| 12:47 | mveron: end of my comment 15 bug 14969: we need these tests to continue | |
| 12:47 | mveron | Hi Joubu |
| 12:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from serials/*.pl files |
| 12:48 | Joubu | I have found what I was thinking for, |
| 12:48 | bug 13813 comment 82 | |
| 12:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13813 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system - first steps |
| 12:48 | mveron | Joubu: I did not yet have time to answer on your comments, sorry. |
| 12:48 | Joubu | Ok, no worries, take your time ;) |
| 12:50 | mveron | Joubu: What are you expecting me to do? Go back several months and do the whole C4::Dates stuff again? |
| 12:50 | Joubu | no, to continue with a more careful approaches |
| 12:51 | xarragon | tcohen: all fine now, was stuff left from master in the tree, had to do a clean -f -d to nuke it |
| 12:52 | mveron | Joubu: All of the C4::Patches are signed-off . Should I re-open them? |
| 12:52 | xarragon | tcohen: plus the include path was not set right with the shellscript I use to set up the koha dev env |
| 12:52 | tcohen | xarragon: have you tried this? https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]vbox/tree/ansible |
| 12:53 | there's no way back from it | |
| 12:53 | Joubu | mveron: I am just not confident with last patches, which make some difficult changes. I would like to see a script to compare the different changes, with the 4 different inputs |
| 12:54 | and confirm that the changes are correct in any cases | |
| 12:54 | unit tests | |
| 12:54 | wahanui | unit tests are required for all new routines in C4:: and Koha::. |
| 12:54 | mveron | Joubu: I'm running out of time. |
| 12:54 | Joubu | mveron: as I said, take your time |
| 12:55 | xarragon | tcohen: I plan to try it at least, it is a death trap to just test on your own dev box. As demonstrated above it tends to slowly become a bit.. depraved without you noticing |
| 12:56 | Btw, running the db_dependant tests.. are they detrimental to my database (on a dev box)? | |
| 12:56 | Should I "Nuke and Flush" as I regularily do anyway? | |
| 12:56 | Joubu | xarragon: it shouldn't but... who really knows? :) |
| 12:57 | tcohen | xarragon: if it does, you should fill a bug :-D |
| 12:57 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14575: Fix typo in opac-basket.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]885775e55b6a25fe0> / Bug 14575: Fix typo OPACurlOpenInNewWindow vs OPACURLOpenInNewWindow <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]774b2ee0b1ec67f77> / Bug 14575: OPACURLOpenInNewWindow should apply to item-level urls too <http://git.koha-community.org/g |
| 12:57 | tcohen | we are experiencing some side-effects on tests (which we haven't tracked down yet) |
| 12:58 | xarragon: trying the kohadevbox will take 5 minutes from your life. Compare it to debugging dependency nightmares | |
| 12:58 | xarragon | Ok, I just saw the warnings on the wiki. I normally just run subset of tests on the modules I am corrupting, but I need to take the test aspect a bit more serious. |
| 12:59 | tcohen: Yeah, and I might reinstall this machine anyway soon. And setting up this manually again is kinda painful if I don't work on it daily. | |
| 12:59 | Linux on a laptop is a daily exercise in small frustrations anyway | |
| 13:00 | Favorite one being that when you unplug the external monitor it will not switch back to internal display automatically and when you press the shortcut to open the screen switching dialog it opens it.. on the disconnected display. | |
| 13:02 | tcohen | xarragon: i vagrant destroy jessie when I leave the office everyday, and vagrant up jessie when I get back while preparing my morning coffee. It is a joy |
| 13:03 | xarragon | tcohen: Sounds very suspicious though. I some countries clearing your browsing history is considered "obstruction of justice". So what you are doing must involve something really, really evil. |
| 13:03 | Oh, I forgot.. Open Source is communism. | |
| 13:05 | tcohen | well, it has proven to fit in capitalism as well |
| 13:05 | xarragon: see bug 15102 for instance | |
| 13:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Passed QA , Fix capitalization for some strings on XSLT detail pages |
| 13:06 | xarragon | It does, it is just so fun seeing the most outspoken "capitalists" frown upon competition.' |
| 13:06 | Anyway, I won't drag us into a political debate here. | |
| 13:07 | tcohen | it seems matts heard about politics discussions so he shows up |
| 13:07 | matts | ^^ |
| 13:07 | tcohen | hi matts! |
| 13:09 | xarragon | Hmm, I might have to reconfigure the devbox so that it does not clash with my primary dev install. |
| 13:10 | tcohen: Does it download a lot every time you spin it up, or does it cache all the heavy stuff? | |
| 13:10 | I am on 3G only at home, luckily unmetered but still not a fat pipe by far. | |
| 13:10 | tcohen | if you follow the instructions it will cache the OS image, and download koha-common+friends |
| 13:11 | it uses NFS to mount your local kohaclone | |
| 13:11 | (need to set an env variable) | |
| 13:16 | xarragon: you don't need to destroy it as I do, right? | |
| 13:20 | mveron | Does onybody make use of misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl? See bug 14998 |
| 13:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14998 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, In Discussion , Remove C4::Dates from installer and maintenance folders |
| 13:39 | magnuse | i have a 3.20.4 installation where going to <intranet>/cgi-bin/koha/about.pl gives "Software error: DBIC result type isn't of the type Borrower at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 87" - anyone else seen that? |
| 13:39 | it's one of those errors that are just a blank page with the error text on it, not a nicely formatted part of the "system info" tab or anything like that | |
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| 13:56 | tcohen | cait: bug 7143 |
| 13:56 | wahanui | somebody said bug 7143 was ready for an easy signoff |
| 13:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 13:57 | tcohen | could you please take a look? |
| 13:58 | cait | not right now sorry |
| 13:58 | super busy | |
| 13:58 | wahanui | super busy is the new normal |
| 13:58 | drojf | lol |
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| 13:59 | mario | morning |
| 14:00 | tcohen | cait: i will use my super powers |
| 14:01 | magnuse | use all the powers! |
| 14:02 | tcohen | what could go wrong? |
| 14:02 | kaboom | |
| 14:02 | hahah | |
| 14:04 | magnuse | oh noes, the rm is loosing it! |
| 14:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Updates for the 3.22 release <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e99dc1da36579200b> |
| 14:08 | magnuse | tcohen++ |
| 14:08 | ooh 291 developers! who will be #300? | |
| 14:09 | tcohen | is "A. Sassmannshausen" here? |
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| 14:23 | cait | tcohen: atheia |
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| 14:58 | xarragon | Will extended attributes only be attached to a borrower created after the attribute, or is there a way to push it to old accounts as well? |
| 14:59 | Oh, wait, patron was not member of the correct category of users | |
| 15:04 | tcohen | cait: git log v3.20.00..HEAD| grep Author: | sort | uniq |
| 15:05 | i did that, and searched for each | |
| 15:05 | on history and about | |
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| 15:19 | cait | tcohen: for the new devs? |
| 15:21 | ashimema | A. Sassmannshausen is atheia |
| 15:21 | i've pinged him for you tcohen | |
| 15:22 | drojf | should be in the irc regulars page maybe :) |
| 15:22 | ashimema | he's a semi-regular |
| 15:22 | I should poke him to leave his client on more often ;) | |
| 15:23 | drojf | regular does not say anything about the frequency ;) |
| 15:23 | atheia joined #koha | |
| 15:23 | ashimema | haha |
| 15:23 | atheia | Hi #koha :-) |
| 15:23 | ashimema | we appear to have lost tcohen now |
| 15:23 | think his super powers got the better of him | |
| 15:24 | atheia | ah haha :-) |
| 15:25 | cait | :) |
| 15:25 | * cait | waves |
| 15:25 | cait | i think it was about the about page |
| 15:25 | atheia | \me waves back |
| 15:25 | damn. still not got the hang of irc commands… ;-) | |
| 15:25 | * ashimema | wonders if me was meant to be /me |
| 15:25 | ashimema | ;) |
| 15:25 | cait | because you are not here often enouhg |
| 15:26 | * atheia | thinks it was indeed. |
| 15:26 | atheia | cait: touché! |
| 15:26 | ashimema | ooh.. |
| 15:26 | atheia: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e99dc1da36579200b | |
| 15:26 | your at the top | |
| 15:27 | wlcome to the official contributors.. no escaping now | |
| 15:28 | atheia | Wow! how did that happen? |
| 15:28 | ashimema | you must have done somthing wrong ;) |
| 15:28 | atheia | amazing! |
| 15:28 | * atheia | dance of joy |
| 15:28 | atheia | well… I got the /me right… just the conjugation wasn't quite there… |
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| 16:00 | bdonnahue | Hey everyone. im a bit confused about koha and marc 21 records. can koha look up information for a record from amazon or the lib of congress? |
| 16:01 | cait | marc21 is a data format |
| 16:01 | koha can use standard protocols like SRU and Z39.50 to look up information in other databases | |
| 16:01 | amazon does afaik not provide such | |
| 16:01 | but the library of congress does | |
| 16:01 | xarragon | Do we have any tests for web services? Or is it purely manual? |
| 16:02 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:02 | cait | xarragon: hm can you give an example? |
| 16:03 | xarragon | cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14257 |
| 16:03 | huginn | 04Bug 14257: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add show_extended_attributes to ILS-DI call GetPatronInfo |
| 16:04 | cait | hmmm |
| 16:05 | not sure if there are test sfor ils-di - i guess you already checked | |
| 16:06 | xarragon | cait: Ah wait, I think I found one |
| 16:06 | cait: ./db_dependent/ILSDI_Services. | |
| 16:06 | bdonnahue | cait: thanks for explaining that |
| 16:07 | so records for a given book for example can can have different sets of data | |
| 16:07 | for example it could be missing some data | |
| 16:10 | cait | koha can overlay them with a better record |
| 16:11 | or you could import another and then merge the 2 together, using fields from each to create a new better record - but usually people overlay i think | |
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| 16:18 | bdonnahue | ah ok thanks. and is the location info is that part ofr the marc record? |
| 16:20 | * mveron | is back in about 5 hours |
| 16:21 | bdonnahue | i will likely need to merge |
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| 16:35 | pianohacker | shalom |
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| 16:54 | cait | bdonnahue: the items are not part of the marc record |
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| 16:54 | bdonnahue | cait: ah ok thanks. so koha stores that information in some other way? |
| 16:55 | cait | it's a separate table - the items are not affected if you overlay the bibliographic record |
| 16:55 | bdonnahue | ah ok that makes sense. thanks for taking the time to explain that |
| 16:57 | tcohen | atheia: do u prefer Atheia or A.? |
| 17:01 | atheia | tcohen: Atheia is good, thanks for asking! |
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| 17:05 | cait | atheia: don't you prefer Alex? |
| 17:05 | i think tcohen was aksing for the list of contributors .) | |
| 17:06 | tcohen | if you look at the about page in Koha, you will notice "A. ..." |
| 17:06 | i thought it was worth fixing | |
| 17:08 | atheia | :-) tcohen, cait, I see, yeah, in which case A. Sassmannshausen or Alex Sassmannshausen is better. |
| 17:10 | tcohen | atheia: you're not answering the question :-D |
| 17:11 | atheia | tcohen: really? |
| 17:11 | wahanui | really is more trouble than she's worth. |
| 17:11 | atheia | Wait… is it about what the A. stands for? |
| 17:11 | In which case — definitely not Atheia :-) | |
| 17:11 | tcohen | about says A., the question was if you prefered Alex instead |
| 17:12 | atheia | Yes — OK, definitely Alex. |
| 17:12 | Did I pass? Did I answer the question? ;-) | |
| 17:13 | tcohen | atheia: yeah, you seem to pass the Turing test now :-P |
| 17:14 | atheia | Phew — that was close :-) |
| 17:14 | Speak later! | |
| 17:16 | Joubu | atheia: you should choose another first name, what about Bob? |
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| 17:31 | tcohen | Joubu: :-P |
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| 18:01 | Joubu | @later tell mveron I will provide patches tomorrow for the other C4::Dates stuffs |
| 18:01 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:11 | Joubu | bye #koha |
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| 18:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14735: Save cache_expiry on modifying a report <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92d714e3389ea057e> / Bug 7895: Test for PSGI-related env to report in about.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1e40285ee06fdcb14> / Bug 15011: koha-indexer should define the --pidfiles on starting the daemon <http://git.koha-communi |
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| 19:20 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 19:29 | cait | khall_away: around? |
| 19:33 | magnuse | probably not, if that nick is to be trusted ;-) |
| 19:34 | cait | pff |
| 19:34 | don't ever trust an away nick :) | |
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| 19:37 | Frey50 | Hello everyone |
| 19:38 | I got a problem | |
| 19:38 | im trying to migrate some records to a new server | |
| 19:38 | but somehow field 100 changes to Frey50 | |
| 19:39 | and im loosing the author information | |
| 19:43 | cait | huh |
| 19:43 | are you using marc21 or unimarc? | |
| 19:45 | Frey50 | marc21 |
| 19:45 | on both servers | |
| 19:46 | cait | hm |
| 19:46 | you don't have a marc modification template active on import... do you? | |
| 19:46 | Frey50 | marcflavour Interpret and store MARC records in the Marc21 format. |
| 19:47 | no sir | |
| 19:47 | cait | which version of koha? |
| 19:47 | wahanui | which version of koha are you using? |
| 19:48 | cait | i found: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1830 |
| 19:48 | huginn | 04Bug 1830: normal, P3, ---, henridamien, CLOSED REMIND, "frey50" after conversion |
| 19:51 | cait | to me it sounds a ibt like a mixup with unimarc, because of system preferences UNIMARCAuthorityField and UNIMARCField100Language |
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| 19:57 | Frey50 | 3.20.05.000 |
| 19:57 | and 3.18.04.000 | |
| 19:58 | cait | Frey50: try to empty out thos 2 sysprefs |
| 19:58 | hm also make sure you chose marc21 on import... and.. hm | |
| 19:59 | Frey50 | just empty? |
| 19:59 | cait | for as tart yes |
| 20:00 | Frey50 | give me a sec |
| 20:01 | done | |
| 20:02 | what else? | |
| 20:03 | cait | hm no more ideas right now : |
| 20:04 | Frey50 | so |
| 20:05 | should i try another import? | |
| 20:05 | cait | yes please |
| 20:06 | Frey50 | and it will duplicate records? |
| 20:07 | cait | hmyeah if you just import again it probably would |
| 20:07 | can you undo your first import? | |
| 20:09 | Frey50 | how? |
| 20:09 | cait | fi you used the staged marc import tool |
| 20:10 | and you go to your batch and click on it.. ther is an undo option | |
| 20:10 | don't confuse with the clean option | |
| 20:11 | Frey50 | what would happen if i click on clean? |
| 20:12 | cait | it deletes the information about the import batch - and then i can't be undone |
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| 20:44 | Frey50 | guys |
| 20:44 | it worked | |
| 20:44 | but now i got another problem | |
| 20:45 | not showing results on opac | |
| 20:52 | nor staff client | |
| 20:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15097: Update MARC21 de-DE frameworks to Update 21 (September 2015) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]645286a70111dd305> |
| 20:57 | cait | Frey50: it's really weird |
| 20:57 | it still points to a unimarc/marc21 problem for me | |
| 20:57 | can you try switching the marcflavour from mac21 to unimarc and back? (turn it on and off again...?) | |
| 20:58 | Frey50 | ok |
| 21:00 | nope | |
| 21:00 | not working | |
| 21:01 | cait | hmpf |
| 21:02 | the idea is that unimarc title is 200 and marc21 is 245 | |
| 21:02 | so not seeing something useful in results could be related to that, after the first problem you had | |
| 21:04 | mveron | Joubu, thanks for taking care for Bug 14946. I tested, however the date filtesr for invoices do not work, other things from test plan work OK. |
| 21:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl |
| 21:08 | Frey50 | and how can i fix it? |
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| 21:18 | dcook | eythian: It turns out that thing I was talking about was a bug in YAZ |
| 21:19 | 'Yep. The "local r=r or r=o" does not take precedence over the outer one. That's a bug in YAZ. It's been fixed and is part of next release of YAZ - version 5.15.0.' | |
| 21:19 | Of course, I'm only using YAZ 5.1.2... not sure what the default is in Debian but imagine it's low too.. | |
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| 21:31 | Francesca | morning |
| 21:42 | eythian | hi |
| 21:42 | wahanui | privet, eythian |
| 21:42 | Francesca | sup |
| 21:55 | mveron | Bug 14946 works :-) |
| 21:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14946 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files acqui/*.pl |
| 21:55 | mveron | ..and is signed-off. |
| 21:56 | Joubu ^ | |
| 21:58 | * cait | waves |
| 22:02 | * mveron | waves |
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| 22:23 | * dcook | waves to the Europeans |
| 22:23 | dcook | Also eythian :p |
| 22:24 | eythian | give it a couple of weeks |
| 22:26 | dcook | Who wha? |
| 22:26 | wahanui | wha are you playing? |
| 22:27 | dcook | And Debian is so close to 2.0.60.. |
| 22:28 | Doesn't look like there is any changes to the YAZ version in any version | |
| 22:49 | cait | dcook++ # mailinglist |
| 22:50 | dcook | :) |
| 22:51 | I've been beating myself up this year over not contributing much in terms of signs offs or patches... but hopefully mailing list and Zebra contributions have helped a bit | |
| 22:52 | eythian | crikey, I sure have a lot of cait-induced bug mail this morning :) |
| 22:52 | cait | my last chances... |
| 22:53 | I was working with tcohen on some clean-up for the release notes | |
| 22:53 | hopefully polishing bug titles a bit and changing modules | |
| 22:53 | eythian | ah yep |
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| 22:58 | brick | добрый вечер! есть ли русскоговорящие? нужна помощь |
| 22:59 | cait | good evening |
| 22:59 | wahanui | evening is the time of day we all look forward too |
| 22:59 | cait | my russian is too rusty, i am sorry |
| 22:59 | brick | ok |
| 23:00 | cait | you need help? |
| 23:00 | brick | my english is bad =) |
| 23:00 | im install koha on ubuntu 14/04 from deb | |
| 23:03 | and backup mysql from work instance with old koha? but on new server 3/20/05 zebra not work | |
| 23:03 | eythian | first try running "sudo service koha-common restart" |
| 23:04 | brick | it indexing, but in opac not any search |
| 23:04 | not help =) | |
| 23:04 | eythian | also, "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -v --full libraryname" |
| 23:04 | (replace "libraryname" with your instance name.) | |
| 23:05 | brick | its too |
| 23:05 | Нет никаких результатов, чтобы отвечали Вашему поиску 'kw,wrdl: пушкин' | |
| 23:06 | eythian | hmm |
| 23:06 | that usually either means that nothing is indexed, or zebra is not running. | |
| 23:06 | is there a zebrasrv process on the server? | |
| 23:06 | brick | koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f db exporting biblio Records exported: 3429 Records exported: 0 |
| 23:07 | ps aux db-koha 32724 0.0 0.4 113316 4732 ? S 23:04 0:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/db/koha-... | |
| 23:08 | eythian | hrm |
| 23:08 | dcook | It's worth tailing that Zebra log if there is a log... |
| 23:08 | eythian | that is all as I'd expect |
| 23:08 | yeah | |
| 23:09 | though, it's pretty quiet generally. but maybe something is there. | |
| 23:09 | brick | mayby how on old version? edit /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr |
| 23:09 | #lowercase {0-9}{a-z}абвгґдеэєжзіїийклмнопрстуфхцчшщьыъюяёў #uppercase {0-9}{A-Z}АБВГҐДЕЭЄЖЗІЇИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЬЫЪЮЯЁЎ | |
| 23:09 | eythian | I don't know much about that side of things. dcook is the expert there :) |
| 23:11 | brick | in new version it don't work =( |
| 23:14 | or disable DOM? | |
| 23:16 | eythian | I don't know |
| 23:16 | I'm not much of a zebra expert, especially non-english-language installs. | |
| 23:16 | It might be good to ask on the Koha mailing list. | |
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| 23:17 | eythian | hallo papa |
| 23:17 | brick | im read it, but nothing for 3.18+ |
| 23:17 | papa | hi there! |
| 23:18 | * dcook | gets back from the phone |
| 23:18 | eythian | brick: you probably should ask, there are people there who know how zebra works better than I do. |
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| 23:27 | brick | eythian, thank you |
| 23:27 | eythian | np, hope you get it sorted out |
| 23:46 | brick | mmm on old server unimark, on new instance is mark21 =) |
| 23:49 | eythian | that will have weird results |
| 23:49 | probably very weird | |
| 23:53 | dcook | Such weird results |
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| 23:56 | dcook | brick: That would almost undoubtedly be a major source of your problems |
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