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| 03:27 | mtj | hmm, i think ive found the issue around my weird quoting problem, from yesterday |
| 03:28 | i edited the MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl file, and removed some quotes | |
| 03:29 | from.. | |
| 03:29 | <a><xsl:attribute name="href">/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=se,phr:"<xsl:value-of select="marc:subfield[@code='a']"/>"</xsl:attribute> | |
| 03:29 | to.. | |
| 03:29 | <a><xsl:attribute name="href">/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=se,phr:<xsl:value-of select="marc:subfield[@code='a']/>"</xsl:attribute> | |
| 03:29 | wizzyrea | that's pretty weird, because the original fix added those quotes. |
| 03:30 | mtj | lol, nice |
| 03:30 | wizzyrea | (iirc) |
| 03:30 | maybe that's caught in a more recent version of one of the dependencies | |
| 03:30 | < has no idea really | |
| 03:32 | mtj | removing the quotes fixed the issue, and doesnt seem to cause a problem?! |
| 03:32 | i noticed some quoting inconsistencies in the xslt file | |
| 03:34 | like, no quotes for a title,phrase search... | |
| 03:34 | <a><xsl:attribute name="href">/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ti,phr:<xsl:value-of select="translate($f773, '()', '')"/></xsl:attribute> | |
| 03:35 | herm...or is that quoted, even? - i cant even tell | |
| 03:36 | ^ not such a hottt example | |
| 03:50 | bug 5369, is prolly the change yr thinking of wizzyrea ? | |
| 03:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5369 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, se queries with paranthesis fail |
| 03:50 | wizzyrea | probably |
| 03:52 | mtj | tho, its not adding any quotes - but removing a single unmatched " |
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| 03:54 | mtj | hmm, looks like its a legit fix for an old bug |
| 03:59 | ah, this is the patch to add double quotes, bug 6553 | |
| 03:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, P3, ---, liz, CLOSED FIXED, Parentheses in corporate author break tracings |
| 04:12 | mtj | meh, i added a single " in my series, and it f*kd it |
| 04:13 | so, its still a variation of the same general problem | |
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| 04:54 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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| 05:56 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:43 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:47 | dojobo | hello |
| 06:47 | wahanui | privet, dojobo |
| 06:48 | dojobo | can i just say, coming from an inferior ILS, i love koha's interface |
| 06:48 | the multi-function search bar on the staff main page is brilliant | |
| 06:49 | (as well as in the modules, e.g. acquisitions has vendor search or orders search) | |
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| 06:54 | cait | hm no kyle |
| 06:54 | someone ever seen a debarment comment from another borrower showing for another? | |
| 06:55 | the patron in question has one entry in borrower_debarments without a comment... but we still see the comment from another in the account | |
| 06:58 | magnuse | ouch! |
| 06:58 | cait | yeah super weird :( |
| 06:59 | borrower.debarred is correct and there is one entry in borrower_debarments, the debarments tab shows it all correct, but the message at the beginning of the table is wrong | |
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| 07:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:00 | wahanui | salut, alex_a |
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| 07:02 | cait | Joubu: around maybe? |
| 07:02 | Joubu | hi |
| 07:02 | cait yep | |
| 07:03 | cait | I was wondering, could you take a quick look at soem code with me? |
| 07:03 | i have the strange penomenon that we see comments from the wrong debarment in an account :( | |
| 07:03 | or many accounts | |
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| 07:12 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 07:13 | it's coming from borrowers.debarredcomment, not from borrower_debarments table | |
| 07:29 | Joubu | So now we know how to improve Koha's speed! We just need to checkout the 2.x branch! |
| 07:31 | cait | ssh |
| 07:31 | hehe | |
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| 07:35 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:54 | cait | Joubu++ saving my day |
| 07:54 | Joubu | hehe, cool :) |
| 07:55 | cait | ah - i am mostly done with testing the I18N patch |
| 07:55 | i failed it again, but most files so far looked good :) | |
| 07:55 | so not much left | |
| 07:55 | i am done with all the reports and most intranet files | |
| 07:55 | Joubu ^ | |
| 07:56 | Joubu | cait: I am on it |
| 07:59 | magnuse | cait++ Joubu++ |
| 08:06 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:06 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 6.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:06 | cait | @wunder Tylösand |
| 08:06 | huginn | cait: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
| 08:06 | cait | @wunder Halstad |
| 08:06 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Climax, Climax, Minnesota is 6.6°C (3:00 AM CDT on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
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| 08:24 | cait | @wunder CPH |
| 08:24 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Copenhagen, Denmark is 9.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:28 | magnuse | Halstad = Climax, Minnesota?!? |
| 08:28 | @wunder halmstad | |
| 08:28 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Vilsharad, Halmstad, Sweden is 9.0°C (10:28 AM CEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:28 | magnuse | @wunder Tylosand |
| 08:28 | huginn | magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
| 08:28 | * magnuse | sets off in ~24 hours |
| 08:29 | cait | my flight is tomorrow aound noon :) |
| 08:29 | ic an try to catch you were people come out - but if I don't give me a quick call or so when you have landed? | |
| 08:29 | s/were/where | |
| 08:30 | magnuse | will do! |
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| 08:38 | ashimema | whats the latest on using memcached configuration guys? I got lost a while bakc when it kept swithcing between being configured in the vhost conf or configured in the koha-conf |
| 08:39 | cait | we are not using it, sorry |
| 08:40 | ashimema | @later tell pianohacker Always like signoffs ;).. was related to sessions being recreated with every refresh/page load |
| 08:40 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:40 | ashimema | yeah.. nor are we in most places.. but we're wanting to take the leep again and try it |
| 08:41 | magnuse | ashimema: the packages add the memcached config to the apache site configs |
| 08:42 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ache-site.conf.in | |
| 08:42 | so i assume that is the correct place :-) | |
| 08:51 | cait | @later tell atheia part of the presentations is linked now http://www.bsz-bw.de/bibliothe[…]/vufind/2015.html |
| 08:51 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 09:09 | ashimema | 'tis his day off today ;) |
| 09:09 | back tomorrow | |
| 09:09 | cheers magnuse | |
| 09:09 | @wunder stevenage, uk | |
| 09:09 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 9.7°C (10:09 AM BST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:10 | ashimema | possitively tropical ;) |
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| 09:15 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:15 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 9.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:15 | * magnuse | too |
| 09:18 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:18 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:23 | magnuse | cait: it's warmer in the arctic ;-) |
| 09:24 | cait | hmpf |
| 09:24 | i think even first snow in some parts of germany today | |
| 09:27 | magnuse | we have had snow on the peaks for a while now |
| 09:38 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 09:45 | ashimema | snow on the peaks.. that makes me want to go skiing again.. it's been too long :( |
| 09:47 | Joubu | ashimema: Where do you go skiing in England? |
| 09:48 | ashimema | I don't.. I head out to the alps ;) |
| 09:48 | though there is 'some' skiing in Scotland | |
| 09:48 | Joubu | ha :) |
| 09:48 | ashimema | none in England as far as I'm aware.. except for the dry slopes and snow domes ;) |
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| 09:59 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 10:30 | cait | hi drojf |
| 10:30 | magnuse | moin drojf |
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| 10:46 | Balvis | is there any way to migrate the database from libsys 4 to koha?I have ubuntu 14.04 with Koha installed in it. |
| 10:59 | drojf | Balvis: google shows several good hits for libsys and koha. i don't know libsys myself |
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| 11:18 | * cait | waves |
| 11:24 | * magnuse | waves too |
| 11:26 | magnuse | andreashm: will we meet you tomorrow, or do you arrive early on friday? |
| 11:28 | andreashm | magnuse: I arrive early(ish) friday. |
| 11:29 | magnuse | ah, cool |
| 11:29 | * magnuse | wonders how many will be staying at the hotel from thursday to friday |
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| 11:43 | cait | me me me |
| 11:43 | :) | |
| 11:46 | magnuse | me me me too |
| 11:46 | where's Viktor when you need him :-) | |
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| 12:40 | Joubu | tcohen: around? |
| 12:42 | tcohen: I have sent you a pull request on kohadevbox:ansible | |
| 12:42 | and I have spent last hour with Laurent (sysop's biblibre) to try and fix the cgi->url issue (using Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath) | |
| 12:43 | but we failed, it should work, but it does not | |
| 12:43 | Do you remember why we use unix socket for Plack? | |
| 12:45 | jcamins | Joubu: ports can't be named. |
| 12:46 | (so multiple instances is harder) | |
| 12:46 | Joubu | jcamins: to support several instances, that's it? |
| 12:46 | yes ok, thanks | |
| 12:47 | jcamins | That's why I did it, at least. |
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| 12:56 | Joubu | tcohen: have a look at last note of bug 15005, SCRIPT_NAME works :) |
| 12:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15005 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , (Plack) Use of SCRIPT_NAME makes Koha generate wrong URIs |
| 13:11 | tcohen | morning everyoen |
| 13:11 | Joubu: I didn't manage to make Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath work as expected | |
| 13:11 | I suspect a bug in Apache's mod_proxy (on UDS) but I'm not sure | |
| 13:12 | and jcamins is right | |
| 13:12 | about why to use UDS | |
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| 13:12 | tcohen | hi andreashm |
| 13:12 | andreashm | hi tcohen |
| 13:13 | is anyone actually using kohadevbox on windows? we are having trouble setting that up. | |
| 13:13 | tcohen | andreashm: which branch? |
| 13:13 | wahanui | it has been said that which branch is HEAD in this statement? |
| 13:14 | andreashm | (also with mac there is some new errors... something about the vagrant box having a different name than the one requested) |
| 13:15 | tcohen: are there several branches? | |
| 13:15 | tcohen: cloned from the kohadevbox repo | |
| 13:15 | digibib/kohadevbox | |
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| 13:16 | tcohen | andreashm: there is a revamped kohadevbox |
| 13:16 | which was created so we can test the plack integration into the packages | |
| 13:16 | for 3.22 | |
| 13:16 | andreashm | ah, that might explain the errors. |
| 13:16 | where do we clone that from? | |
| 13:17 | tcohen | it is a general purpose kohadevbox, but it was started to make it easier to test plack for the 3.22 release |
| 13:17 | just checkout the 'ansible' branch | |
| 13:17 | from the same repo instead of master :-D | |
| 13:17 | andreashm | ok |
| 13:17 | tcohen | but let me apply a pull request from Joubu first |
| 13:18 | andreashm | ok, part 2. =) |
| 13:18 | we're not working on it right now. but good to know. | |
| 13:18 | tcohen | check the README, as it needs ansible to be installed |
| 13:20 | andreashm | ok thanks |
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| 13:47 | nengard | cait if you get a sec can you read our questions on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14377 |
| 13:47 | huginn | 04Bug 14377: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, Failed QA , Indicate that a record is suppressed in staff client |
| 13:49 | cait | done |
| 13:49 | nengard: i think we don't need a pref | |
| 13:49 | as Koha knows the value - we just need to look it up | |
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| 13:56 | cait | brendan-bag? |
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| 13:57 | brendan-bag | Hi |
| 13:57 | * brendan-bag | on the bus |
| 13:58 | cait | so it's bus-bag :) |
| 13:58 | brendan-bag | Ha |
| 14:02 | barton | morning all! |
| 14:02 | here for the dev meeting. | |
| 14:03 | cait | oh right that's now |
| 14:03 | tcohen: ? | |
| 14:03 | do you want to chair? | |
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| 14:05 | cait | tcohen: ping |
| 14:06 | tcohen | hi |
| 14:06 | cait | can you chair today? |
| 14:06 | * tcohen | was preparing a big cup of coffee |
| 14:06 | tcohen | cait: of course |
| 14:06 | cait | i need to run around here a bit - and that would not work well with being chair :) |
| 14:06 | barton | #info big cup of coffee sounds awesome. |
| 14:07 | * tcohen | just found a bug :-/ |
| 14:07 | barton | ^^ purposfully playing around with #info, just because I know we haven't started yet :-)\ |
| 14:08 | tcohen | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 1 |
| 14:08 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Oct 14 14:08:29 2015 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:08 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:08 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 1) | |
| 14:08 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_14_october_2015___part_1' |
| 14:08 | tcohen | #topic Introductions |
| 14:08 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 14:08 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 1) | |
| 14:08 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 14:08 | nengard | #info Nicole C Engard, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:08 | tcohen | please introduce yourselves like that ^^^^ |
| 14:09 | jajm | #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre |
| 14:09 | ColinC | #info Colin Campbell PTFS-Europe |
| 14:09 | khall | #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions |
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| 14:09 | andreashm | #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library |
| 14:09 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:09 | brendan-bag | Brendan Gallagher ByWater |
| 14:10 | tcohen | will wait one more minute |
| 14:10 | brendan-bag | #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater |
| 14:10 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
| 14:11 | tcohen | time |
| 14:11 | #topic RM 3.22 comments | |
| 14:11 | Topic for #koha is now RM 3.22 comments (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 1) | |
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| 14:12 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
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| 14:12 | tcohen | first of all, I want to apologize for the lag on the PQA queue |
| 14:12 | it has become more and more difficult to keep the pace on such big developments | |
| 14:13 | cait | tcohen++ looking better then the NQA ;) |
| 14:13 | tcohen | testing them and making sure everything is ironed for the users worldwide |
| 14:13 | and having a life appart from that | |
| 14:13 | heh | |
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| 14:13 | nengard | tcohen I thought RMs weren't allowed to have lives? ;) |
| 14:14 | tcohen | I'm happy with how things have been doing overall, but I know it is frustrating to see |
| 14:14 | nengard | tcohen++ |
| 14:14 | tcohen | your work lag even when it was perr-review by several people |
| 14:14 | i think that will happen, always | |
| 14:14 | because the RM position is very demanding | |
| 14:15 | and it should be (somehow) funded so people can do it full time | |
| 14:15 | just my two cents for the project's future | |
| 14:15 | brendan-bag | Here hear |
| 14:15 | khall | tcohen++ |
| 14:15 | brendan-bag | Trying for that we are |
| 14:15 | nengard | tcohen++ |
| 14:16 | tcohen | by 'funded' I mean that support companies should bring someone from their team to do it on work-hours |
| 14:16 | or whatever suits the community's possibilities at some point | |
| 14:16 | barton | btw, agenda at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_14_October_2015 |
| 14:16 | tcohen | i'm not complaining at all, I really enjoyed this, but it got more difficult than I expecetd |
| 14:16 | so | |
| 14:17 | that was the "RM" bit | |
| 14:17 | now the "3.22 comments" part :-P | |
| 14:17 | some big stuff has been pushed recently | |
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| 14:18 | tcohen | file-upload capabilities and refactoring |
| 14:18 | marcelr | #info Marcel de Rooy |
| 14:18 | tcohen | OAI implementation changes |
| 14:18 | Joubu | bug 14321 |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Merge UploadedFile and UploadedFiles into Koha::Upload |
| 14:19 | tcohen | that one requires ironing the deployment: i.e. we need to set a default upload_path |
| 14:19 | marcelr | bug 14893 |
| 14:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Separate temporary storage per instance in Upload.pm |
| 14:19 | tcohen | overall things are pretty stable, even though jenkins is failing |
| 14:20 | #info tcohen asks patch authors to take care of things being broken on jenkins, might be your fault! | |
| 14:20 | anyway | |
| 14:21 | I repeat myself, but we need more teseting on koha-plack, that's the purpose of teh kohadevbox:ansible branch | |
| 14:21 | Jonathan has been working on a couple problems we found | |
| 14:21 | Joubu++ | |
| 14:21 | cait | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_14_October_2015 |
| 14:21 | Joubu++ | |
| 14:21 | tcohen | but the fact is that we are a month and a half away from the release and there is no evidence |
| 14:22 | people have been testing the plack integration on the packages | |
| 14:22 | Joubu | bug 15005 |
| 14:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15005 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , (Plack) Use of SCRIPT_NAME makes Koha generate wrong URIs |
| 14:22 | bag | back |
| 14:23 | tcohen | #info bug 15005 is really tricky to solve, with possible integration issues, and requires expert eyes |
| 14:24 | we have enough time to iron things out, but we will need to focus on this things | |
| 14:24 | #action tcohen volunteers to help people set a suitable test environment for anywant willing to spend a couple minutes testing plack | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | stress session? |
| 14:25 | tcohen | ah, that |
| 14:25 | wahanui | ah, that is just to say that everything should be on one line |
| 14:25 | tcohen | #info ByWater has provided a VM with external access, in which we will set a Koha+plack install so we can do stress tests on it |
| 14:25 | bywater++ | |
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| 14:26 | tcohen | questions? |
| 14:26 | wahanui | questions are good :) |
| 14:26 | Joubu | when? |
| 14:26 | tcohen | i can set everything up tomorrow morning |
| 14:27 | #action tcohen will send an email to the devel list with data about the koha-common+plack server | |
| 14:27 | Joubu | we need as many people as possible, to simulate a normal circulation/search/etc. workflow |
| 14:28 | tcohen | questions about 3.22? |
| 14:28 | Joubu | It would be preferable to push 15005 before the stress session |
| 14:28 | yes, do you plan to push the ES work? | |
| 14:28 | tcohen | Joubu: I didn't realized you already provided the needed followups for ->url |
| 14:29 | Joubu | and bug 11559? |
| 14:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface |
| 14:29 | Joubu | and the REST api "base" |
| 14:29 | nengard | Would love to see ^^ in 3.22 |
| 14:29 | andreashm | us too |
| 14:30 | tcohen | I tested it and it has issues, but it can be pushed as it is an opt-in, once it gets PQA |
| 14:30 | (rancor) | |
| 14:30 | Joubu | I need to know the priorities to focus my work for the next month |
| 14:30 | tcohen | I don't think the ES work will make it |
| 14:30 | bag | imo ES needs more testing, I’ve tested it and I’ve got it set up, |
| 14:31 | tcohen | I think the REST work should be pushed if we generate the needed patches for integrating with the packages |
| 14:31 | that's my opinion | |
| 14:31 | bag | bug number for need patches? |
| 14:31 | bug 13799 | |
| 14:31 | wahanui | it has been said that bug 13799 is ready to go in master, if nobody complains about it |
| 14:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add base for building RESTful API |
| 14:31 | Joubu | I have not willing to see 13799 pushed without any guidelines |
| 14:31 | tcohen | I welcomed ashimema's followups, I guess we just need to solve minor issues right now |
| 14:32 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:32 | Joubu | I thing we need to see discussion (yes again) on bug 14974 before |
| 14:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use the REST API for cities |
| 14:32 | ashimema | ooh.. meeting.. |
| 14:32 | wahanui | meeting is probably in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then |
| 14:32 | tcohen | ashimema++ |
| 14:32 | ashimema | oops |
| 14:32 | #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe | |
| 14:33 | agree with Joubu.. we're getting there with the rest stuff.. but I'd like to see some concrete examples and guidlines around implimenting controllers for it | |
| 14:33 | tcohen | I think ashimema's comment on 13799 should be the basis for those guidelines |
| 14:33 | ashimema | so we get adoption going. |
| 14:33 | Joubu | code please! |
| 14:33 | ashimema | I know khall, joubu and I are all working on some examples |
| 14:34 | Joubu | mine is submitted, I don't plan to do more |
| 14:34 | * ashimema | goes off to remind himself of the comment |
| 14:34 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:34 | I'm trying to find some time for my angualr guy to attack it | |
| 14:35 | tcohen | so you think we need guidelines on how the UI should use the REST api to accept it pushed? |
| 14:35 | Joubu | (definitely) |
| 14:35 | tcohen | or just guidelines on how to build the controllers? |
| 14:35 | ashimema | not exactly.. I'd love to see some.. |
| 14:36 | but I do think we need some clear guidelines on how controllers should be coded.. or rather spec'd | |
| 14:36 | tcohen | i don't think we need more than guidelines on the controllers code |
| 14:36 | ashimema | it's important to build good specs with swagger.. else allot of the 'win' from using it is lost.. |
| 14:36 | Joubu | I'd like to see alternative patches suggested on 14974, to do exactly the same things as mine |
| 14:36 | tcohen | becuase otherwise we should make a decision on the UI tools (angular?) before we can have a REST api |
| 14:36 | ashimema | the current specs are too sparse in terms of the requests and responses are not schema'd up.. |
| 14:37 | Joubu | what's the point to have a "rest api base" if we don't know how to use/improve it? |
| 14:37 | ashimema | i.e there is currently no validation going on before and after the controller code runs to varify what you 'think' you are getting in is what you actually are.. |
| 14:37 | and vica versa | |
| 14:37 | UI wise, i think that's the next step.. hopefulyl closely behind.. | |
| 14:38 | Joubu | Better than specs, I'd prefer some code |
| 14:38 | ashimema | I think getting the server level into master sooner rather than later good.. but also think before full release we need the ui examples and documentation in too |
| 14:38 | does that make sense | |
| 14:39 | tcohen | if we had a technical comitee, with schedules to make decisions I'd say we should wait for that |
| 14:40 | but we don't, we make decisions in places like this meeting | |
| 14:40 | and mostly with code, provided by people that actually work on the implementations | |
| 14:40 | bag | that’s so true |
| 14:40 | catch 22 | |
| 14:41 | tcohen | i'm happy with extracting martin's comments on how we should split the swagger file, and his guidelines on the types we need to choose for things |
| 14:41 | and consider that, and Julian's implementation something close to a guideline | |
| 14:41 | bag | seems reasonable |
| 14:41 | tcohen | but I accept that we might not agree on that |
| 14:42 | I read Jonathan's implementation, and if it complied with martin's recommendation, I'd push it too :-P | |
| 14:42 | well, I'm not sure about the UI part | |
| 14:42 | but the controller and backend, yes | |
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| 14:43 | Joubu | Where is Julian's implementation? |
| 14:43 | tcohen | I'll close this topic, as we moved to the next one (REST :-D) |
| 14:44 | but first, I'd like to set feature slush for 23rd October | |
| 14:45 | questions about feature slush | |
| 14:45 | ? | |
| 14:46 | Joubu | In the bug reports linked to the "api base" I don't see a guideline on how using the REST api from Koha scripts |
| 14:46 | it's pretty soon :) | |
| 14:47 | marcelr | how do you explicitly define feature slush ? |
| 14:47 | tcohen | the point were things that things that are not PQA are not *elegible* for poshing |
| 14:47 | ashimema | I'll post the promised followups ot the rest bug shortly |
| 14:48 | just writing them now | |
| 14:48 | bag | sweet thanks ashimema |
| 14:48 | ashimema | (found a bug in swagger2 lib which i'm fixing first.. hense the slow down) |
| 14:48 | nengard | So we need everything that is signed off passed qa by the 23rd or else it won't be in 3.22? |
| 14:48 | Got it | |
| 14:48 | marcelr | no this is about new features only |
| 14:48 | * ashimema | has been writing tests furiosly for the Mojo Swagger2 lib the past few weeks.. to make sure feature we are using don't go away ;) |
| 14:49 | ashimema | feature slush good :) |
| 14:49 | nengard | oh good to know marcelr |
| 14:49 | tcohen | i'm moving it November 26th, because people tend to work hard before the feature slush, and no point setting it to a friday when I'm not going to have time to push things |
| 14:49 | marcelr | tcohen: and enhancements? |
| 14:49 | khall | ashimema++ |
| 14:49 | tcohen | ashimema++ |
| 14:50 | marcelr | October 26th i guess |
| 14:50 | tcohen | ah, yes, thanks marcelr |
| 14:50 | #info feature slush is October 26th | |
| 14:51 | marcelr: I'm not sure, I guess small enhancements are not a problem, those that look more like a feature are | |
| 14:51 | marcelr | clear enough |
| 14:52 | tcohen | in the end, it will depend on how much time I can spend on this, because I will be focusing on ironing things |
| 14:52 | unless people start seriously testing and let me spend more time pushing :-P | |
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| 14:53 | tcohen | the next topic is the REST api implementation |
| 14:53 | #topic RESTful API Implementation | |
| 14:53 | Topic for #koha is now RESTful API Implementation (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 1) | |
| 14:54 | Joubu | tcohen: you can count me in #testing |
| 14:54 | tcohen | about bug 13799, I expected that Julian and Martin explained us the implementation details/decisions, and then Martin's followups, with the aim to have a general idea of those guidelines |
| 14:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add base for building RESTful API |
| 14:54 | tcohen | thanks Joubu |
| 14:55 | is there any volunteer that could extract that information from the bug so we start a wiki for those "guidelines"? | |
| 14:55 | Joubu | and code? :) |
| 14:55 | khall | what guidelines are we looking for? |
| 14:55 | to add new services to the api, using the api, or both | |
| 14:56 | Joubu | both |
| 14:56 | tcohen | my opinion is that we need the first |
| 14:56 | as mandatory | |
| 14:56 | khall | agreed. |
| 14:56 | ashimema | I can write some guidelines based around using the swagger stuff meaningfully |
| 14:56 | tcohen | we don't even have angular pushed to master |
| 14:56 | ashimema | and write some examples too |
| 14:56 | khall | I'll create the wiki page if ashimema and Joubu can go through and tweak it |
| 14:57 | cait | back... |
| 14:57 | ashimema | the clientside I'm less up to speed on and am honestly not entirely sure of the best aproach as yet.. |
| 14:57 | Joubu | khall: I have no idea on how to use it and I am not involved in the discussion from the beginning, so not me :) |
| 14:57 | khall | agreed, the backend is far more important at this point |
| 14:57 | tcohen | the guidelines should cover: |
| 14:57 | ashimema | would like to see some angualr based stuff sooner rather than later.. and to see some non-blocking async calls going on.. we're really nto very good at async calls yet |
| 14:57 | khall | Joubu: np! |
| 14:58 | tcohen | - how to structure the controller scripts |
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| 14:58 | tcohen | - how to make decisions on the endpoint naming, etc |
| 14:58 | khall | ashimema: a wiki page on that would be good |
| 14:58 | ashimema | k.. khall and I will tag team writing that page :) |
| 14:58 | tcohen | - how to organize the swagger files |
| 14:58 | khall | with good and bad examples |
| 14:58 | ashimema | certainly ;) |
| 14:58 | we have some nasty blocks in the few places (the patrons search page in the staff cleint is very blocky currently) | |
| 14:59 | I'll do the controllers + swagger guidlines first.. | |
| 14:59 | then move onto utilising them clientside (with help of my tame angular dev) | |
| 14:59 | khall | ashimema: that sounds most excellent |
| 15:00 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:00 | tcohen | #info Jonathan worked on his own REST implementation test-drive on bug 14974, please, Mojo/Swagger/REST experts take a look and provide feedback |
| 15:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use the REST API for cities |
| 15:00 | ashimema | sorry guys.. my auth maintainer hat is beign put down for a while whilst this api stuff goes through the motions ;) |
| 15:00 | only so many hours in a day | |
| 15:01 | bag | :) |
| 15:01 | tcohen | ashimema: we forgive you, if you help us have those guidelines :-D |
| 15:01 | pianohacker | hallo |
| 15:02 | tcohen | pianohacker: just in time, we said next one to login was the volunteer |
| 15:02 | pianohacker | uh oh |
| 15:02 | khall | lol |
| 15:02 | pianohacker | volunteer for what? Finishing full port to dbic? |
| 15:02 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:02 | * ashimema | would love full dbic port.. (and a cleaner db schema to boot) |
| 15:03 | tcohen | pianohacker: yes, but we need a full rewrite of all the things too, thanks for volunteering! |
| 15:03 | pianohacker | oh, cool |
| 15:03 | in perl 6 of course | |
| 15:04 | tcohen | pianohacker: yes, but needs to be backwards compatible |
| 15:04 | pianohacker | with python? Can do! |
| 15:04 | tcohen | back to perl 5.6 |
| 15:04 | pianohacker | man, I thought you were volunteering me for something HARD |
| 15:04 | tcohen | ok, so can I put actions? |
| 15:05 | ashimema | go for it |
| 15:06 | tcohen | #action Kyle volunteers to start a wiki page for the REST guidelines |
| 15:06 | #action Martin volunteers to polish some Controller / Swagger guidelines for the REST implementation | |
| 15:07 | Joubu | and code/example, someone? |
| 15:07 | * Joubu | has the impression that he is repeating himself |
| 15:08 | tcohen | action pianohacker volunteers to take a look and comment on 14974 |
| 15:08 | :-P | |
| 15:08 | pianohacker | good to know! |
| 15:08 | tcohen | if you accept I'll add the dash |
| 15:08 | bag | yes |
| 15:08 | pianohacker | oh yeah can do |
| 15:08 | tcohen | #action pianohacker volunteers to take a look and comment on 14974 |
| 15:08 | bag | excellent |
| 15:08 | tcohen | pianohacker++ |
| 15:09 | ashimema: please comment on anything you need, or whatever I/we can help with regarding the docs | |
| 15:10 | and thanks | |
| 15:10 | moving on | |
| 15:11 | ashimema | will also try to do some code example Joubu.. to go with the docs |
| 15:13 | bag | sweet |
| 15:15 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:16 | tcohen | ok, sorry, had my boss asking me about my work :-/ |
| 15:17 | (DSpace things) | |
| 15:17 | #topic 'Big stuff we are working on' | |
| 15:17 | Topic for #koha is now 'Big stuff we are working on' (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 1) | |
| 15:17 | Joubu | tcohen: You don't do anything at work, just surfing on facebook, everybody knows that |
| 15:17 | tcohen | yeah |
| 15:17 | * tcohen | seriously things his boss belives so |
| 15:18 | ashimema | so.. Bug stuffs? |
| 15:18 | s/Bug/Bug | |
| 15:19 | pianohacker | Working on rancor atm, but I think that's already been discussed |
| 15:19 | * tcohen | suspects the guidelines will be full of typos |
| 15:19 | tcohen | :-P |
| 15:19 | bag | HA |
| 15:20 | tcohen | pianohacker: yeap |
| 15:20 | ok, moving on | |
| 15:20 | #topic Specific bugs that need feedback | |
| 15:20 | Topic for #koha is now Specific bugs that need feedback (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 1) | |
| 15:21 | tcohen | #info please take a look at tests failing on jenkins, specially if your patches might be guilty |
| 15:21 | pianohacker | tcohen: at least one of the jenkins build failures seemed to be due to DB connection issues |
| 15:21 | tcohen | I'd also like to ask the QA team to give packages-related patches some priority |
| 15:22 | * ashimema | is terrible at holding conversations in multiple windows and managing to stave off the typo's too |
| 15:22 | tcohen | pianohacker: thanks, will check (on that free time I have heheh) |
| 15:22 | * Joubu | missed the big bugs stuffs... |
| 15:22 | tcohen | Joubu: only rancor was mentioned |
| 15:22 | Joubu | we absolutely need to test 13618 |
| 15:22 | tcohen | would you like to add something? |
| 15:22 | Joubu | because I won't rebase it for months! |
| 15:22 | pianohacker | tcohen: you find any of that "free time" stuff, make sure to share your source |
| 15:22 | bug 13618 | |
| 15:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC |
| 15:22 | barton | tcohen: silly question, but where do I look to see if one of my patches has broken jenkins? is 'prove' enough? |
| 15:23 | Joubu | and I have provided a quick patch on bug 14778, because it was blocker for everybody |
| 15:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Get rid of DBIx::Connector |
| 15:23 | Joubu | now there is a patch |
| 15:23 | and nobody cares | |
| 15:23 | pianohacker | barton: there's a link in the email that takes you to the jenkins site, and you can see the test output there |
| 15:23 | tcohen | jenkins is sending emails to patch authors since it started failing |
| 15:24 | it doesn't know what patch broke things | |
| 15:24 | (i.e. is not bisecting the git repo) | |
| 15:24 | pianohacker | Joubu: how sure are we that bug 13618 covers all the areas that output HTML? |
| 15:25 | Joubu: and I think everyone very much cares but has no idea what is wrong | |
| 15:25 | Joubu | no way to know |
| 15:25 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:25 | Joubu | if we don't manage to make DBI::Mock works, since kick it out |
| 15:26 | s/since/then | |
| 15:26 | tcohen | Joubu: I agree |
| 15:26 | pianohacker | does TestBuilder at least partially remove the need for it? |
| 15:26 | Joubu | ye |
| 15:26 | yes | |
| 15:26 | tcohen | hmm |
| 15:27 | Joubu | say yes |
| 15:27 | more or less | |
| 15:27 | tcohen | I think there is a conflict |
| 15:27 | Joubu | but the tests using the DB Mock are not very useful |
| 15:27 | tcohen | because TestBuilder is used for 'integration tests', in the sense that they need data on the DB, and things like that |
| 15:27 | Unit tests on t/ should actually mock everything+} | |
| 15:28 | the fact that we are reaching DBIx::Class on some tests that are mocking DBI, is a symptom that we have mixed things too much | |
| 15:28 | Joubu | the tests using it could cover more use cases if they were DB dpes |
| 15:28 | deps | |
| 15:28 | tcohen | I'd say we shouldn't be using DBI::Mock on t/db_dependent |
| 15:28 | pianohacker | there's only 6 tests that use DBD::Mock, but 4 of them (Koha, Biblio, Calendar and Members/cardnumber) are non-db-dependent |
| 15:29 | Joubu | pianohacker: did you test the patchset on a customer's server? |
| 15:29 | * ashimema | is catching back up |
| 15:29 | pianohacker | Joubu: no, the site where we were experiencing issues has gone quiet for reasons we don't entirely understand :/ |
| 15:29 | Joubu | pianohacker: I have much more occurrences |
| 15:30 | t/Acquisition/Invoice.t for instance | |
| 15:30 | tcohen | pianohacker: every test file that uses t::lib::Mocks |
| 15:30 | pianohacker | ohhhh, shoot. |
| 15:30 | tcohen | the problem is mixing things |
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| 15:32 | John | Johnster |
| 15:32 | tcohen | ok |
| 15:33 | #info 14778 is very important and needs urgent feedback | |
| 15:33 | Joubu | Note that it's not important for me :) |
| 15:33 | ashimema | also on my todo pile is that bug ;) |
| 15:33 | 'tis for me | |
| 15:33 | John | I'm just happy that I got an install up and running--with one notable exception! |
| 15:34 | ashimema | but need to get the customers test server up to date before I can get them to test it |
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| 15:34 | tcohen | thanks ashimema |
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| 15:34 | Brooke | o/ |
| 15:35 | tcohen | ok, I think it is time to move on |
| 15:35 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 15:35 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 1) | |
| 15:36 | tcohen | #info there will be at least one more dev meeting, tcohen might call for a topic-specific dev meeting if there is something urgent that needs feedback |
| 15:36 | #info please communicate fluently regarding bugs and things that might hit the next release | |
| 15:37 | thanks everyone for attending and specially for volunteering, you all rock | |
| 15:38 | nengard | thanks tcohen |
| 15:38 | tcohen | #endmeeting |
| 15:38 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 15:38 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Oct 14 15:38:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:38 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-10-14-14.08.html | |
| 15:38 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]5-10-14-14.08.txt | |
| 15:38 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]14-14.08.log.html | |
| 15:38 | bag | thanks |
| 15:38 | Joubu | thanks tcohen |
| 15:38 | Muchas gracias! | |
| 15:39 | khall | indeed! |
| 15:39 | tcohen | vous êtes les bienvenus ? |
| 15:39 | Joubu | au contraire |
| 15:39 | tcohen | literal translation |
| 15:39 | wahanui | tcohen: translation =is= translate.koha-community.org |
| 15:39 | tcohen | heheh |
| 15:39 | au contraire! | |
| 15:39 | ashimema | cheers |
| 15:39 | Joubu | de nada == de rien |
| 15:39 | tcohen | de rien |
| 15:39 | Joubu | use Spanish instead of English to translate French :) |
| 15:39 | to | |
| 15:40 | tcohen | true .-D |
| 15:43 | ok | |
| 15:45 | Brooke | you should just use Arnaud. One less articulation. ;) |
| 15:46 | tcohen | hi Brooke |
| 15:46 | Brooke | what's up? |
| 15:46 | tcohen | lunch time here |
| 15:46 | so pretty hungry | |
| 15:46 | Brooke | yeah, I just had a steak quesadilla. |
| 15:47 | if you are at home, I know that there are plenty of good places you could theoretically eat :D | |
| 15:47 | Joubu | so pretty thirsty |
| 15:47 | * Joubu | heads to the pub |
| 15:47 | Joubu | bye |
| 15:49 | Brooke | see you! |
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| 15:55 | ashimema | where abouts in scouseland are you Joubu..? |
| 15:55 | * ashimema | wonders if he knows the pub ;) |
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| 16:19 | mveron | Good evening / daytime #koha |
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| 16:26 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 16:27 | mveron | hi drojf :-) |
| 16:28 | drojf | how are things going in allschwil? |
| 16:48 | mveron | drojf: Sorry, was diving into a bg... Hmm, it's getting colder: |
| 16:48 | @wunder Alslchwil | |
| 16:48 | huginn | mveron: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
| 16:48 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 16:49 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 7.0°C (6:30 PM CEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:51 | mveron | drojf: Loads of work and a little bit tired. I try to clean up some bugs from the C4::Dates series... |
| 16:51 | drojf: And in Berlin? | |
| 16:58 | @wunder Berlin | |
| 16:58 | huginn | mveron: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 16:58 | mveron | @wunder Berlin, GErmany |
| 16:58 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 7.0°C (6:50 PM CEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:07 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 17:07 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 7.0°C (6:50 PM CEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:07 | drojf | mveron: got really cold here too |
| 17:08 | and tired ;) hope to have time for some bugs next week. lots of other things coming in the way | |
| 17:09 | mveron | drojf: Tomorrow I'm invited to "Schreck am See", we will have to walk up the mountain, they expect snow there... |
| 17:09 | www.schreckamsee.ch | |
| 17:11 | drojf | "Himmlische Genüsse und höllische Gefühle" sounds like fun :D |
| 17:11 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 17:11 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 32.2°C (2:10 PM ART on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
| 17:11 | tcohen | @seen Joubu |
| 17:11 | huginn | tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 24 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <Joubu> bye |
| 17:11 | drojf | @wunder thessaloniki |
| 17:11 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 18.0°C (7:50 PM EEST on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:12 | tcohen | @seen marlcelr |
| 17:12 | huginn | tcohen: I have not seen marlcelr. |
| 17:12 | tcohen | huginn: you know what I meant |
| 17:12 | huginn | tcohen: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 17:12 | tcohen | @seen marcelr |
| 17:12 | huginn | tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 20 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <marcelr> clear enough |
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| 17:46 | * cait | waves |
| 17:46 | * pianohacker | ckab sevaw |
| 17:47 | cait | huh? |
| 17:51 | pianohacker | ti tuoba kniht |
| 17:51 | liw | hyvää syntymättömyyspäivää kohalle |
| 17:52 | pianohacker | ilo Koha li pona |
| 17:56 | * magnuse | waves in norwegian |
| 17:56 | magnuse | is/was there a meeting today? |
| 17:57 | cait | yes and yes i think |
| 17:57 | missed it too - too busy | |
| 17:58 | ut there should be another in 3 hours i think | |
| 18:03 | magnuse | ok |
| 18:04 | yup, 3 hours until the next one: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_14_October_2015 | |
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| 18:20 | tcohen | magnuse: we volunteered you for package maintenance |
| 18:20 | and you even agreed! | |
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| 19:04 | * cait | struggles packing for an overnight trip |
| 19:09 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 19:09 | rangi | i heard whispers gmcharlt might do package stuff? |
| 19:09 | tcohen | hehe, that'd be awesome! |
| 19:09 | gmcharlt | rangi: eythian caught me in a weak moment |
| 19:09 | rangi | heh |
| 19:10 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
| 19:15 | cait | gmcharlt: can you package my bag for tomorrow too? :) |
| 19:19 | liw | cait, do you have a packing list? are you trying to stuff too much into the bag? are you filling a suitcase with salmiakki candy and have no space for clothes? |
| 19:21 | rangi | heh |
| 19:22 | liw | (http://liw.fi/travel/ is my checklist) |
| 19:22 | cait | heh |
| 19:22 | I only have hand luggage and no idea what to wear - typical problems i guess :) | |
| 19:23 | liw | (http://files.liw.fi/temp/suitcase.jpg is my suitcase half-filled with salmiakki candy) |
| 19:23 | cait | i am travelling to sweden... |
| 19:23 | wonder what is the typical thing there :) | |
| 19:24 | rangi | fish |
| 19:24 | liw | http://www.onebag.com/ is one of the sites that turned me from a panic-attacky travel-hater to someone who just hates airlines and airplanes and airports |
| 19:24 | rangi | swedish fish |
| 19:24 | cait | liw: my suitcases to kohacon usually look somewhat like this - but with chocolates |
| 19:24 | heh | |
| 19:24 | liw | cait, the top right quadrant is salmiakki chocolate :) |
| 19:24 | cait | interesting! |
| 19:24 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 19:29 | bag | :) |
| 19:29 | cait | not sure about this case wahanui |
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| 19:32 | gmcharlt | cait: bag tends to wriggle a lot whenever I try to package him |
| 19:32 | ;) | |
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| 19:34 | cait | lol |
| 19:34 | bag | ;) |
| 19:34 | cait | i guess now we found out what the problem is |
| 19:36 | bag might be too heavy for hand luggage... only 8kg | |
| 19:36 | bag | I’m trying :) getting closer |
| 19:37 | cait | liw: your electronics list is very telling :) |
| 19:38 | bag: i hope not :) | |
| 19:39 | liw | cait, I get really annoyed if I forget to bring, say, a charger with me :) |
| 19:41 | cait | understandable :) |
| 19:41 | i have to leave my laptop behind - i thurts | |
| 19:42 | it hurts | |
| 19:44 | liw | what's the point of travelling to faraway lands if I can't go hide in a hotel room and talk on irc all the time? |
| 19:44 | cait | it's too heavy, i have a smaller one from work to take with me |
| 19:44 | but it's just not the same :) | |
| 19:45 | and no koha on it to play with! | |
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| 20:13 | pianohacker | brain is hurt, when is dev meeting part 2? |
| 20:16 | cait | 45 mins |
| 20:17 | pianohacker | thanks cait |
| 20:17 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 20:17 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 15, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:17 | rangi | im gonna be in a meeting with clients |
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| 20:44 | tcohen | hi |
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| 21:05 | wnickc | meeting? |
| 21:05 | wahanui | i think meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then |
| 21:07 | cait | oh i tihnk so |
| 21:07 | tcohen: i haven't read back yet :( | |
| 21:08 | tcohen | hi everyone |
| 21:09 | eythian | hi |
| 21:09 | wahanui | hi, eythian |
| 21:09 | tcohen | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 2 |
| 21:09 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Oct 14 21:09:44 2015 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:09 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:09 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 2) | |
| 21:09 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_14_october_2015___part_2' |
| 21:09 | tcohen | #topic Introductions |
| 21:09 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 21:09 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 2) | |
| 21:10 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany |
| 21:10 | eythian | #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT, NZ |
| 21:10 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 21:10 | wnickc | #info Nick Clemens, VOKAL Consortium |
| 21:10 | tcohen | ok, a couple more minutes just in case anyone else is around |
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| 21:11 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 21:11 | Who is the 3.20.x maintainer again? | |
| 21:11 | tcohen | his name is Chris Cormack |
| 21:11 | cait | heh |
| 21:11 | tcohen | heh |
| 21:11 | mtompset | vi /t/db_dependent/Circulation.t |
| 21:12 | eythian | never heard of him |
| 21:12 | mtompset | -- /<<<<< |
| 21:12 | tcohen | ah. merge conflict markers? |
| 21:12 | mtompset | Yes |
| 21:12 | Is there a patch for that? | |
| 21:12 | tcohen | we are beginning a meeting |
| 21:13 | mtompset | Oh, is this the second one? |
| 21:13 | tcohen | mtompset: I think he can do a quick and dirty followup if you leave him a @later |
| 21:13 | cait | meeting? :) |
| 21:14 | tcohen | #topic RM 3.22 comments |
| 21:14 | Topic for #koha is now RM 3.22 comments (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 2) | |
| 21:14 | mtompset | @later tell rangi t/db_dependent/Circulation.t has merge conflict markers in it. Shall I put patch up on bugzilla? |
| 21:14 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:14 | mtompset | #info Mark Tompsett |
| 21:14 | tcohen | did you all read the logs? |
| 21:15 | * cait | hides |
| 21:15 | tcohen | (of course you did) |
| 21:15 | mtompset | Not yet. |
| 21:15 | eythian | http://meetings.koha-community[…]14-14.08.log.html <-- in case you need to |
| 21:15 | tcohen | ok, I apologized to people with patches on the PQA queue |
| 21:15 | pianohacker | no wizzyrea? |
| 21:15 | wahanui | i guess no wizzyrea is not. |
| 21:15 | tcohen | read the logs for that, i apologize, that's it |
| 21:15 | eythian | pianohacker: no, she's busy this morning |
| 21:16 | pianohacker | curses :/ |
| 21:16 | tcohen | I forgot (again) |
| 21:16 | eythian | she'll be back in the arvo most likely |
| 21:16 | tcohen | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_14_October_2015 |
| 21:16 | that's the agenda | |
| 21:16 | pianohacker | arvo? |
| 21:16 | afternoon? | |
| 21:16 | wahanui | i heard afternoon was good |
| 21:16 | eythian | yeah |
| 21:16 | lrn2english ;) | |
| 21:16 | tcohen | ok, meeting |
| 21:16 | pianohacker | wahanui: arvo is afternoon |
| 21:16 | wahanui | OK, pianohacker. |
| 21:17 | mtj | #info Mason James, NZ |
| 21:17 | hi folks | |
| 21:17 | tcohen | 3.22 is in good shape, some minor issues are raised by jenkins (devs, please take a look just in case is your fault or just want to fix something to feel good) |
| 21:18 | my main concern is the lack of testing the plack integration into the packages has | |
| 21:18 | we can always put a big note saying "try at your own risk", but I think it is worth investing time on this last sprint | |
| 21:19 | we've even set a kohadevbox:ansible branch so people can test it out of the box | |
| 21:19 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 21:19 | eythian | I'll see about giving it a review if I get the chance |
| 21:19 | (I'll try to make the chance) | |
| 21:19 | tcohen | the main outstanding issues are integration issues |
| 21:20 | there seems to be a problem with headers, that ends with Koha generating wrong links | |
| 21:20 | see bug 15005 | |
| 21:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15005 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , (Plack) Use of SCRIPT_NAME makes Koha generate wrong URIs |
| 21:20 | mtompset | are you talking about a branch on Magnus' kohadev box git? |
| 21:20 | tcohen | it is tricky to solve |
| 21:20 | mtompset: exactly | |
| 21:20 | #link http://comments.gmane.org/gman[…].koha.devel/12362 | |
| 21:21 | mtompset | I do have Magnus' kohadevbox. I haven't touched it lately. :) |
| 21:22 | tcohen | this kohadevbox branch just does things simpler (in some way) |
| 21:22 | and lets koha-plack handle the plack configuration/management | |
| 21:22 | so it is more suitable for testing the plack integration on the packages | |
| 21:22 | without breaking peoples' kohadevbox which everyone loves | |
| 21:22 | ok? | |
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| 21:23 | * cait | nods |
| 21:23 | tcohen | i'm not pushing for this specific kohadevbox now, I'm just saying that it is the easiest way to test the plack integration |
| 21:23 | mtompset | But isn't the kohadevbox meant for breaking? :) |
| 21:24 | tcohen | they don't have feature-parity so in some scenarios it doesn't replace the original one, ok? |
| 21:24 | we could, eventually, who knows, do it, but is not the point right now | |
| 21:24 | patches are accepted (jonathan already contributed fixes) | |
| 21:25 | anyway, please test plack, and help us figure how to solve bug 15005 | |
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| 21:25 | tcohen | you will earns cookies from jcamins |
| 21:25 | which are the best | |
| 21:25 | ever | |
| 21:25 | questions? | |
| 21:25 | wahanui | questions are good :) |
| 21:26 | cait | you mentioned a bywater server for testing plack in the other meeting? |
| 21:26 | tcohen | ah, yes |
| 21:26 | bag | yes |
| 21:26 | * cait | was waiting for that heh |
| 21:26 | tcohen | ByWater provided a server in which we will do some stress tests |
| 21:27 | i'll send an email to the list once it is set | |
| 21:27 | (expect it for tomorrow morning) | |
| 21:27 | if there aren't any more questions... | |
| 21:27 | - please test master | |
| 21:28 | - please test the plack integration | |
| 21:28 | - please fix all the bugs | |
| 21:28 | :-D | |
| 21:28 | bag | in reverse order |
| 21:28 | cait | i might be able to do some stress testing while travelling, I iwll try |
| 21:28 | it's just... try all the things work right? | |
| 21:28 | just... | |
| 21:28 | eythian | that's all, not hard :) |
| 21:28 | liz | hi |
| 21:28 | wahanui | kia ora, liz |
| 21:28 | cait | hehe |
| 21:28 | tcohen | yes, I already noticed a problem with the label batch creator |
| 21:29 | didn't fill a bug yet :-/ | |
| 21:29 | cait | something specific that needs testing still? or a certain area? |
| 21:29 | tcohen | file upload received a major refactoring on this release |
| 21:29 | it should be tested | |
| 21:29 | liz | what was the problem with the batch creator? |
| 21:29 | tcohen | also cataloguing plugins |
| 21:29 | liz: in plack | |
| 21:30 | liz | oh coolio |
| 21:30 | tcohen | when you create a batch, you don't |
| 21:30 | heh | |
| 21:30 | liz | ouch. |
| 21:30 | bag | I think if we have many different people trying to break it - we’ll find the spots |
| 21:30 | tcohen | bag: agreed |
| 21:30 | bag | once it’s ready I will help break |
| 21:31 | tcohen | eythian: we might need Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath |
| 21:31 | it will depend on how we solve that bug | |
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| 21:31 | tcohen | ok, shall we? |
| 21:32 | #topic RESTful API Implementation | |
| 21:32 | Topic for #koha is now RESTful API Implementation (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 2) | |
| 21:32 | eythian | tcohen: thought we had that already, but sure |
| 21:32 | tcohen | during part 1 |
| 21:32 | (eythian, will recheck) | |
| 21:32 | we had a long discussion about the REST api implementation | |
| 21:33 | jonathan was afraid (and several were) that people were not actually | |
| 21:33 | trying to code new endpoints | |
| 21:33 | and there wasn't a clear path on how to do it (guidelines | |
| 21:33 | for controller scripts, for swagger files, etc) | |
| 21:33 | * ashimema | made lots of promises to add documentation, guidelines and code examples |
| 21:33 | mtompset | I'm not touching REST, because I don't know Mojo or swagger. |
| 21:34 | tcohen | it is all spreaded in the RFC, on BZ comments, etc |
| 21:34 | cait | ashimema: so you did :) |
| 21:34 | ashimema | mtompset... my aim in the guidlines is to make it as trivial as possible to code up a controller without having had prior experience with either swagger or mojo |
| 21:34 | tcohen | jOnathan is actively working on figuring how to do things, and he even posted an implementation (backend and UI tweaks) for handling cities |
| 21:34 | ashimema | aid in adoption |
| 21:35 | tcohen | bug 14974 |
| 21:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use the REST API for cities |
| 21:35 | tcohen | mtompset: Jonathan's is a good example |
| 21:35 | the swagger files need to be splitted so they are maintainable, etc | |
| 21:36 | * ashimema | will be posting followups to showcase more on that bug ;) |
| 21:36 | tcohen | that's what the guidelines are about: how to do things well and avoid (as much as possible) added technical debt |
| 21:36 | Kyle volunteered to create a wiki page, and Martin (ashimema) to solve all our problems | |
| 21:37 | =D | |
| 21:37 | cait | ashimema++ kyleh++ |
| 21:37 | tcohen | khall++ ashimema++ |
| 21:37 | Joubu++ | |
| 21:37 | bag | :) |
| 21:37 | pianohacker | and I volunteered to rewrite Koha in Perl 6 |
| 21:37 | tcohen | ah, I forgot! |
| 21:37 | bag | in twice the number of lines |
| 21:38 | pianohacker | of course |
| 21:38 | tcohen | rewrite it in Perl 6 making it backwards compatible with Perl 5.6 |
| 21:38 | ashimema | perl 6 prototypes are 'interesting' |
| 21:38 | tcohen | pianohacker volunteered too, to work on this |
| 21:38 | ashimema | anywho |
| 21:38 | pianohacker | yup yup |
| 21:38 | mtompset | I think the marking... sigils?... aren't backward compatible. |
| 21:39 | pianohacker | but yeah, anywho |
| 21:39 | cait | pianohacker++ |
| 21:39 | tcohen | pianohacker++ |
| 21:39 | questions about this? issues? | |
| 21:39 | cait | khall++ # correcting my typo |
| 21:40 | pianohacker | tcohen: looks good |
| 21:40 | tcohen | ok |
| 21:40 | eythian? liz? mtompset? | |
| 21:40 | eythian | yes? |
| 21:40 | tcohen | comments on the REST thing? |
| 21:40 | liz | um, please feel free to add me to the CC on anything you think needs backporting to 3.18 and I'll give it a go. |
| 21:40 | nope | |
| 21:40 | tcohen | ok |
| 21:40 | eythian | not really, haven't looked at it for a while. |
| 21:41 | mtompset | Not really. Still don't have time to touch it. |
| 21:41 | tcohen | eythian: we decided that it needed to be simplified |
| 21:41 | and Julian worked on that | |
| 21:41 | eythian | Yeah, I'm very very pro that idea. |
| 21:41 | liz | start small, dream big |
| 21:41 | :) | |
| 21:41 | tcohen | we still didn't provide patches for integrating it to plack-on-packages |
| 21:41 | * cait | is too |
| 21:42 | cait | small steps are great steps |
| 21:42 | tcohen | yes, we got rid of rewriting C4::Auth |
| 21:42 | and reinventing Oauth2 too | |
| 21:42 | liz | phew |
| 21:42 | thanks for that | |
| 21:42 | tcohen | so it is simple now, it shares authentication and authorization mechanisms |
| 21:42 | with the rest of the codebase | |
| 21:43 | eythian | good |
| 21:43 | tcohen | and if someone dares to rewrite C4::Auth |
| 21:43 | he/she can, following our workflow, and should have good reasons to do it | |
| 21:44 | eythian | it is something I want to do, it's a bit of an ugly monster |
| 21:44 | mtompset | It needs a rewrite so that things like authentication fallback order can be implemented. :) |
| 21:44 | tcohen | it is not a bad idea, but we cannot rewrite the whole project to have something as simple as a REST api |
| 21:44 | eythian | no |
| 21:44 | it'd be its own thing | |
| 21:45 | tcohen | BTW: kivilathio already wrote the code, it is a separate bug and anyone can comment on that and even provide followups, etc |
| 21:45 | eythian: exactly | |
| 21:45 | * cait | nods |
| 21:45 | tcohen | ok |
| 21:46 | i grab this from part 1 | |
| 21:46 | #info Jonathan worked on his own REST implementation test-drive on bug 14974, please, Mojo/Swagger/REST experts take a look and provide feedback | |
| 21:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use the REST API for cities |
| 21:47 | tcohen | I recall, pianohacker volunteered for implementing full port to dbic |
| 21:47 | #topic 'Big stuff we are working on' | |
| 21:47 | Topic for #koha is now 'Big stuff we are working on' (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 2) | |
| 21:48 | tcohen | eythian: something to say about ES? |
| 21:48 | eythian | sure |
| 21:48 | first, big ++ to Joubu for helping work on it | |
| 21:49 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
| 21:49 | liz | joubu++ |
| 21:49 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 21:49 | eythian++ too | |
| 21:49 | eythian | otherwise, it's in need of more testing, and more polish. I'm currently working on filing off the burrs, I think the bulk of the features are complete, though no doubt more will be found that were missed as people test. |
| 21:49 | tcohen | eythian++ |
| 21:50 | eythian | for the next day or two I'm going to be making sure that zebra still works so it can be merged in without risking anything breaking. |
| 21:50 | bag | that sounds good |
| 21:50 | tcohen | sounds great |
| 21:51 | bag | something we could push that is OFF by default |
| 21:51 | eythian | totallyu yeah |
| 21:51 | -u | |
| 21:51 | tcohen | cool |
| 21:51 | cait | eythian: is the demo up to date currently with the latest patches? |
| 21:51 | eythian | cait: it's close, but not quite. |
| 21:51 | I'll do that today | |
| 21:51 | bag | awesome |
| 21:51 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag |
| 21:51 | bag | awesome |
| 21:52 | tcohen | eythian: one integration question |
| 21:52 | does it consider the multi-instance scenario? | |
| 21:52 | eythian | yes |
| 21:52 | tcohen | (will it work on the packages?) |
| 21:52 | ok | |
| 21:52 | single ES? | |
| 21:52 | eythian | yep |
| 21:52 | the index base name is defined in koha-conf | |
| 21:53 | and will be generated from the instance name, like the database name is | |
| 21:53 | tcohen | ah, just like memcached namespaces |
| 21:53 | eythian | yeah, exactly |
| 21:53 | tcohen | perfect |
| 21:53 | cait | eythian: are there some easy notes how to get it running yet somewhere? wiki? |
| 21:53 | or still too many things changing? | |
| 21:54 | eythian | I think there already are instructions on the wiki |
| 21:54 | not much that would affect things is changing. | |
| 21:54 | bag | I’ve found it quite simple cait |
| 21:54 | cait | ok |
| 21:54 | bag | you can ping me if you have trouble |
| 21:54 | I will help | |
| 21:54 | cait | i am travelling a lot until feature slush... but will try to put in as much time as I can |
| 21:54 | hm a lot before... | |
| 21:54 | eythian | cool :) |
| 21:54 | bag | sounds good |
| 21:54 | cait | well, will have to do several things, but try to do as much as i can on each :) |
| 21:55 | eythian | Reminds me, I do need to do a bit of work on the dependencies |
| 21:55 | tcohen | #chair cait |
| 21:55 | huginn | Current chairs: cait tcohen |
| 21:56 | tcohen | :-D have to leave, urgently |
| 21:56 | sorry guys! | |
| 21:56 | cait | um |
| 21:56 | pianohacker | :D |
| 21:56 | eythian | surprise! |
| 21:56 | pianohacker | cait++ |
| 21:56 | cait | ok |
| 21:56 | tcohen | please read the last logs and comment on those bugs |
| 21:56 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 21:56 | cait | someone reminds me where we are in the agenda? :) |
| 21:56 | liz | big things we are working on I think |
| 21:56 | eythian | the "big things" stage |
| 21:56 | liz | jinx |
| 21:56 | mtompset | Elastic search. "big things" |
| 21:57 | cait | one sec |
| 21:57 | ok | |
| 21:57 | found the log | |
| 21:57 | some big stuff has been pushed recently | |
| 21:57 | pianohacker | rancor is still a creature from star wars, still a cataloging editor, still getting bugs fixed and I'm still trying to get it ready for the slush |
| 21:57 | cait | file-upload capabilities and refactoring |
| 21:57 | OAI implementation changes | |
| 21:58 | bag | pianohacker: talked about rancor - same kind of deal - pushed in as defaulted off |
| 21:58 | cait | bug 14321 |
| 21:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Merge UploadedFile and UploadedFiles into Koha::Upload |
| 21:58 | cait | bug 14893 |
| 21:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Separate temporary storage per instance in Upload.pm |
| 21:58 | bag | pianohacker++ |
| 21:58 | pianohacker | :) |
| 21:58 | mtompset | Oh... that looks like a bug I should look at. |
| 21:58 | cait | bag: pianohacker: i'd like osmeone to test if it doesn't break records/items |
| 21:59 | as a small thing out of a bit test plan that i think we need to make really sure of | |
| 21:59 | bag | we’ve got a library using it - so that’s totally possible cait |
| 21:59 | would that work for you? | |
| 21:59 | cait | of course |
| 21:59 | bag | excellent that we can do |
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| 22:00 | cait | i think Joubu has also done some testing - there might be still problems with UNIMARC, but not sure |
| 22:00 | he left some comments on the bug | |
| 22:00 | bag | pianohacker any update on your work with Joubu on that? |
| 22:00 | pianohacker | not yet, will be working on his and other comments on the bug today and tomorrow |
| 22:00 | cait | :) |
| 22:01 | bag | :) |
| 22:01 | cait | there is another bug, mentioned in part 1 |
| 22:01 | bug 15005 | |
| 22:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15005 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , (Plack) Use of SCRIPT_NAME makes Koha generate wrong URIs |
| 22:01 | cait | 'is really tricky to solve, with possible integration issues, and requires expert eyes' |
| 22:01 | tomas also offered to help anyone willing to test plack with setting up a suitable test environment | |
| 22:02 | eythian | cait: we covered that |
| 22:02 | cait | oops |
| 22:02 | went to the wrong place in the logs... | |
| 22:02 | ok | |
| 22:02 | anything else big someone wants to mention then? :) | |
| 22:03 | some big plans for the next release? :) | |
| 22:03 | ok, then i am moving on | |
| 22:03 | #topic Specific bugs that need feedback | |
| 22:03 | Topic for #koha is now Specific bugs that need feedback (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 2) | |
| 22:03 | cait | bug 13618 |
| 22:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC |
| 22:04 | cait | please test! |
| 22:04 | and help get rid of the xss problems once and for all (hopefully) | |
| 22:04 | bug 14778 | |
| 22:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Get rid of DBIx::Connector |
| 22:05 | cait | and then there was some discussion about DBI::Mock that you should read up on in the logs about |
| 22:05 | other bugs? | |
| 22:05 | echo? | |
| 22:05 | wahanui | echo? |
| 22:06 | pianohacker | echo? |
| 22:06 | wahanui | echo? |
| 22:06 | cait | ok, someone is still here apart from wahanui :) |
| 22:06 | moving on then | |
| 22:06 | #topic set date and time of next meeting | |
| 22:06 | Topic for #koha is now set date and time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 14 October 2015 - part 2) | |
| 22:06 | cait | #info there will be at least one more dev meeting, tcohen might call for a topic-specific dev meeting if there is something urgent that needs feedback |
| 22:06 | #info please communicate fluently regarding bugs and things that might hit the next release | |
| 22:06 | #endmeeting | |
| 22:06 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 22:06 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Oct 14 22:06:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 22:06 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-10-14-21.09.html | |
| 22:06 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]5-10-14-21.09.txt | |
| 22:06 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]14-21.09.log.html | |
| 22:06 | eythian | hmm |
| 22:07 | you missed an "anything else to add" stage :/ | |
| 22:07 | cait | oh |
| 22:07 | i asked fo an echo... | |
| 22:07 | eythian | yeah, about other bugs |
| 22:07 | cait | (00:05:27) cait: other bugs? |
| 22:07 | mtompset | echo? |
| 22:07 | wahanui | echo? |
| 22:07 | mtompset | Sorry... lots of screens are distracting. :) |
| 22:08 | cait | i did - but maybe not clearly |
| 22:08 | eythian | I was going to add that I had successfully blackmailed gmcharlt into being the new package maintainer. |
| 22:08 | cait: very not clearly :) | |
| 22:08 | cait | oh! |
| 22:08 | liz | nice |
| 22:08 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 22:08 | liz | gmcharlt++ |
| 22:08 | pianohacker | gmcharlt++ |
| 22:08 | cait | there is also somehting else we forgot |
| 22:09 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.24 | |
| 22:10 | liz | oh I'm happy to stay on RMaint for 3.18 |
| 22:10 | eythian | cait: http://youknowyouregermanwhen.com/ |
| 22:10 | > You don’t see how “Streichholzschächtelchen” would be difficult to pronounce. | |
| 22:10 | mtompset | Will we lose 3.18.x as packages when 3.22 comes out (as we only had oldstable/stable)? |
| 22:10 | eythian | yes |
| 22:11 | mtompset | What's the ETA on 3.22? November? |
| 22:11 | bag | I think november 26th or something |
| 22:12 | mtompset | okay. |
| 22:12 | mtj | peeps, i think i might step down from 3.16.x rmaint, when 3.22 is released |
| 22:12 | bag | hiya mtj |
| 22:12 | mtompset | So I have to finish my current problem before November 26. :) |
| 22:12 | bag | makes sense mason |
| 22:13 | mtj | hey, bag.. yeah |
| 22:13 | bag | hey kathryn we just got a message from overdrive |
| 22:13 | but it’s useless | |
| 22:13 | sigh | |
| 22:14 | liz | seems like overdrive's customers need to contact them and say "get off your butts and help these people or we'll cancel" |
| 22:14 | kathryn | bag heya...yeah... |
| 22:14 | bag | agreed |
| 22:15 | well we just scored the owners phone number yesterday - we did threaten calling him if they don’t respond | |
| 22:20 | kathryn | will be watching out for the next installment... |
| 22:22 | bag | eythian++ |
| 22:22 | thanks man - I’m a little more encouraged about what you said about ES and some prospect of 3.22 inculsion | |
| 22:22 | eythian++ | |
| 22:23 | wnickc | g'night all |
| 22:23 | eythian | yeah, if we can be sure that it won't cause zebra breakage, but could be mostly functional, then it might be feasible. |
| 22:47 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 22:47 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 22:48 | did i miss the third meeting within a week? wow | |
| 22:51 | eythian | good work drojf :) |
| 22:51 | drojf | eythian: thanks! |
| 22:51 | eythian | http://youknowyouregermanwhen.com/ <-- drojf, I sent it to cait already :) |
| 22:52 | cait | ... i think afer missing 3 meetings in a week... he might not be german after all :P |
| 22:53 | drojf | "Your CV is not just a summary of your work experience, but rather a book depicting everything about your personal life, details about your children, your political interests, the names and professions of your parents and everything else you ever did in your entire life." |
| 22:53 | as someone who just updated his CV, that is pretty accurate | |
| 22:54 | cait: i would have been pünktlich if i had noted it somewhere | |
| 22:54 | cait | so you were not organisiert! |
| 22:54 | pianohacker | heh, where you get subtly and implicitly accused of being an egotistical bastard if you have a resume longer than a page in the states :) |
| 22:54 | be back much later | |
| 22:54 | stay frosty | |
| 22:54 | eythian | here ~3 pages is normal |
| 22:54 | drojf | eythian: is the catalyst ES demo gone? and the fancy NYTProf thingy too |
| 22:54 | eythian | drojf: ...no? |
| 22:55 | drojf | http://elasticsearch.koha.cata[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 22:55 | eythian | hmm |
| 22:55 | oh | |
| 22:55 | I was messing with it yesterday | |
| 22:55 | I probably broke something | |
| 22:56 | drojf | that would not have happened with german engineering :D |
| 22:57 | eythian | heh |
| 22:57 | drojf | "You know you're German when... You understand Dutch just fine, but you pretend you don’t understand a single word of it." |
| 22:57 | lol. nobody understands dutch | |
| 22:58 | eythian | so, I've found that the drunker you are, the easier it is to understand |
| 22:58 | drojf | true for a lot of things |
| 22:58 | maybe everything | |
| 22:58 | lol | |
| 22:59 | eythian | doesn't help with german. no one can understand that. |
| 22:59 | drojf | you are just jealous because you are not a Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän |
| 23:00 | eythian | it's true |
| 23:00 | wahanui | I saw it on Digg! |
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| 23:01 | eythian | for some reason the virtual hosting has gone weird |
| 23:01 | tcohen | ? |
| 23:01 | eythian | and if anyone tells me to disable the default site, there will be a stabbing. |
| 23:02 | tcohen | did i miss something? |
| 23:02 | eythian | nothiong important |
| 23:02 | tcohen | what is the vhost problem? |
| 23:02 | eythian | that it's not working :) |
| 23:02 | drojf | i was planning to print shirts with "i a2dissite default" |
| 23:02 | tcohen | apache2ctl -D DUMP_VHOSTS |
| 23:02 | always helps | |
| 23:03 | eythian | oh, I didn't know that |
| 23:03 | ahh | |
| 23:03 | so | |
| 23:03 | I changed the machine name to be fully qualified | |
| 23:03 | and so now that matches the default site. | |
| 23:04 | that seems like a flaw in the default config | |
| 23:04 | ironically, disabling the default site here is probably the best solution. | |
| 23:05 | drojf: back now | |
| 23:06 | that -D DUMP_VHOSTS is super handy, it should be the default thing people are asked to do when they get the wrong site or a "it works" page or whatever | |
| 23:07 | drojf | eythian: great, thanks |
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| 23:45 | liz joined #koha | |
| 23:49 | tcohen | bye everyone, picking the wife at the football training site |
| 23:57 | liz joined #koha |
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