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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | dcook | Let's point to All The Vocabularies!!! Each with their own implicit and explicit biases! |
| 00:00 | Well hopefully explicit biases... | |
| 00:02 | I wonder how that would work with all the vocabularies... | |
| 00:02 | I would think you'd still need a thesaurus... | |
| 00:03 | * dcook | is going to cut off his ranting now for the sake of the rest |
| 00:04 | * Francesca | waves |
| 00:04 | dcook | yo Francesca |
| 00:04 | Francesca | sup |
| 00:04 | dcook | Werk |
| 00:04 | You? | |
| 00:04 | wahanui | You are welcome |
| 00:04 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: looks like the robots.txt tweak for git.k-c worked |
| 00:05 | Francesca | dcook: I'm good, trying to survive last week of uni them I'm freeeee! |
| 00:05 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt++ awesome thank you for taking care of that |
| 00:06 | dcook | Francesca: Awesome :) |
| 00:07 | Francesca | I am very much looking forward to my holiday |
| 00:07 | no uni means no early mornings yay | |
| 00:08 | dcook | Interesting... are authorities not a thing in BibFrame? |
| 00:08 | * dcook | finds <bf:hasAuthority rdf:resource="http://id.loc.gov/authorities/[…]ects/sh2008108600"/> a bit confusing |
| 00:08 | dcook | Francesca: A holiday would be nice |
| 00:08 | wizzyrea | github is first that probably explains some things. |
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| 01:05 | wizzyrea | I need a frikkin holiday. |
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| 03:25 | mtj | meh, i just bumped into bug 5369 on master |
| 03:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5369 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, se queries with paranthesis fail |
| 03:40 | dcook | eythian: Don't suppose you're around? |
| 03:40 | Whoa... | |
| 03:40 | Is that bug exactly what I was just thinking about? | |
| 03:41 | eythian | sure am |
| 03:41 | dcook | eythian: I was just going to ask how your ES work copes with parentheses |
| 03:41 | Whether it creates groups or what.. | |
| 03:41 | eythian | it does |
| 03:41 | it uses the lucene parser | |
| 03:41 | http://lucene.apache.org/core/[…]parsersyntax.html | |
| 03:41 | dcook | What would it do in the case of that bug mtj just mentioned? |
| 03:41 | Where the query string contains parentheses? | |
| 03:42 | eythian | probably explode |
| 03:42 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:42 | eythian | it's a fair bit more sensitive to malformed queries than zebra, the way I'm using it. |
| 03:42 | dcook | That's so weird that I would be thinking about this at this time.. |
| 03:42 | Ahh | |
| 03:42 | Dinger | |
| 03:42 | Yeah someone is trying to do the following: | |
| 03:42 | eythian | there's a more robust version, but then I lose a lot of necessary features. |
| 03:42 | dcook | Host-item:Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal |
| 03:43 | And of course it's not working | |
| 03:43 | Host-item:(Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal) | |
| 03:43 | would work though | |
| 03:43 | eythian | ah |
| 03:43 | I think quotes would solve it in ES | |
| 03:43 | not 100% sure though | |
| 03:43 | dcook | I take it you don't use quotes atm? |
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| 03:43 | dcook | I wonder what Koha is doing in the background here anyway.. |
| 03:44 | eythian | I have a lot of query rewriting going on, I can't remember if I do things with quotes or not. |
| 03:44 | this is what we need a query parser for, then these decisions can be made by koha itself :) | |
| 03:44 | dcook | True dat |
| 03:45 | * dcook | is in favour of a query parser |
| 03:45 | mtj | my bug seems to be caused to having opacsuppression syspref = 1 |
| 03:45 | dcook | mtj: Yeah, I'm noticing that too |
| 03:45 | mtj | ..it seems to generate bad CCL, in opac search :/ |
| 03:45 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3657;hb=HEAD#l532 | |
| 03:45 | dcook | Actually... mine is without parentheses |
| 03:46 | Host-item:Criminology and criminal justice : an international journal is saying something about opac suppression.. | |
| 03:46 | mtj | } else { |
| 03:46 | $query = "($query) not Suppress=1"; | |
| 03:46 | } | |
| 03:46 | rangi | you have at least one item suppressed eh? |
| 03:46 | dcook | rangi: Yeah, but if I do a different query, it works |
| 03:46 | mtj | yeah, i do |
| 03:46 | eythian | opac suppression is currently done in the worst way possible :/ |
| 03:46 | dcook | So I'm guessing mine has something suppressed |
| 03:46 | eythian | I need to change that significantly to make it work with ES |
| 03:46 | dcook | WARNING: query problem with ( ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Search word expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' |
| 03:46 | mtj | i get this error.. |
| 03:46 | AH01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:33:30 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with ('pb=Bloomsbury,') not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "Unknown qualifier") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384. | |
| 03:47 | dcook | mtj: Unknown qualifier, eh? |
| 03:47 | eythian | dcook: oh, if a search part is marked as a "phrase" I do manually wrap quotes around it, I think that's all I do with them. |
| 03:48 | dcook | eythian: Ahh |
| 03:48 | mtj: That's really weird | |
| 03:49 | mtj | ooh, actually the pb: search is ok |
| 03:50 | ..i was mucking about with the opac-search.pl file then | |
| 03:50 | * eythian | closes 2**8 tabs. This make things less annoying. |
| 03:51 | mtj | its the 'series:phr' search i was getting my error on |
| 03:51 | H01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:48:50 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "')' expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384. | |
| 03:51 | dcook | Yikes.. |
| 03:52 | That looks like a missing double quote? | |
| 03:52 | mtj | yeah.. somewhere...? |
| 03:52 | eythian | I guess the problem generally is it's easy to have a simple parser that can accept anything but isn't flexible, or a complex one that can be made to do anything, but isn't very relaxed about what it accepts. |
| 03:52 | mtj | hey rangi, welcome home too ;0) |
| 03:52 | rangi | thanks |
| 03:53 | eythian | Finding one with both syntax and relaxed-ness is a hard problem. |
| 03:54 | dcook | mtj: What's your query? |
| 03:54 | eythian: Possibly | |
| 03:55 | I mean... Zebra can be relaxed sometimes but that's because it forces defaults | |
| 03:55 | So it works but it works differently than you think it does | |
| 03:55 | thank how* | |
| 03:55 | than how** | |
| 03:55 | mtj | looks like its the trailing ';' in the search string thats causeing a problem too |
| 03:55 | 440 #0 - SERIES STATEMENT/ADDED ENTRY--TITLE | |
| 03:55 | Title Harry Potter ; | |
| 03:55 | dcook | mtj: What on Earth are you searching, man? :p |
| 03:55 | I have an extra ":" which is causing my entire query to disappear | |
| 03:56 | Hence why I got ( ) not Suppress=1 | |
| 03:56 | eythian | dcook: sure, but if it sees "se:(one two", is that broken syntax, or a literal string? |
| 03:56 | mtj | opac-search.pl?q=se,phr:"Harry Potter ;" |
| 03:56 | eythian | it's easier to treat it as broken syntax |
| 03:56 | dcook | eythian: Ahhh I gotcha. Yeah. |
| 03:56 | mtj | if i remove the ';'... search works too :/ |
| 03:57 | opac-search.pl?q=se,phr:"Harry Potter " | |
| 03:57 | dcook | wth... |
| 03:57 | My log says I got a Zebra error, but I'm seeing search results | |
| 03:57 | Ah stale logs me thinks.. | |
| 03:57 | wizzyrea | mtj are you possibly not using xslt? |
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| 03:57 | mtj | xslt is on |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | then it probably got regressed in bootstrap or something |
| 03:58 | dcook | mtj: You might need to poke through Search.pm. I think that's where I might be headed next.. |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | iirc the fix wasn't super complicated. |
| 03:59 | mtj | looks like is been busted forever, i reckon wiz |
| 03:59 | i'll check again | |
| 04:00 | seems hard to believe it wouldnt have been spotted before tho | |
| 04:01 | eythian | wahanui: search.pm |
| 04:01 | wahanui | it has been said that search.pm is full of bees. |
| 04:02 | mtj | anyhoo, thanks for the advice folks |
| 04:02 | dcook | Search.pm is... arg |
| 04:03 | eythian | full of bees, dcook |
| 04:03 | I say this as I just typed 'vim C4/Search.pm' to try to fix something | |
| 04:03 | :< | |
| 04:03 | wizzyrea | mtj intranet or opac? |
| 04:04 | mtj | opac wiz, (i dont think opacsuppress is enabled in intra?) |
| 04:04 | dcook | ^ |
| 04:05 | wizzyrea | cool, well hope you figure it out |
| 04:06 | dcook | Zebra definitely does something funny with "=" and ":" in a query... |
| 04:06 | I'm not getting errors per se but getting zero results (in yaz-client) | |
| 04:06 | * dcook | looks up mtj's query |
| 04:07 | dcook | Not a good example for me as I have no Harry Potter... |
| 04:07 | wtf... | |
| 04:07 | Yeah, Zebra does interesting things with ";" | |
| 04:07 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Punctuation in Zebra" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/107 |
| 04:07 | dcook | Ahh it just truncated my query |
| 04:08 | * dcook | ponders |
| 04:08 | dcook | Actually, this could be a normalization thing |
| 04:08 | mtj: ICU or CHR? | |
| 04:08 | mtj | chr, afaik |
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| 04:09 | dcook | Hmm probably not related after all.. |
| 04:11 | Yikes... yeah ";" is definitely bad news | |
| 04:22 | mtj: Just got that same error and I'm quite confident it's because of that semicolon | |
| 04:23 | The weird thing is that if I plug in "test ; test"... it works | |
| 04:23 | I wind up with this query: | |
| 04:23 | (rk=(Title-cover,ext,r1="test ; test" or ti,ext,r2="test ; test" or Title-cover,phr,r3="test ; test" or wrdl,right-Truncation,r9="test? ; test? " or wrdl,r9="test ; test")) | |
| 04:23 | Which fails in yaz-client but works in Koha... | |
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| 04:29 | dcook | ZOOM::Query::CCL2RPN might do something.. |
| 04:31 | Booyah... | |
| 04:31 | Fix yaz-client: semicolon terminates arguments YAZ-851. | |
| 04:31 | Of course it's not fixed until 5.14.5 2015/08/06 | |
| 04:31 | mtj: ^ | |
| 04:35 | Ahhh | |
| 04:35 | I'm guessing ZOOM::QUERY::CCL2RPN is converting the semicolon to a colon... | |
| 04:35 | Because Zebra is being hit with this: @or @or @or @or @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=32 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 1=4 @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 @attr 9=28 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 1=36 @attr 4=1 @attr 9=26 @attr 2=102 "test : test" @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "test? : test? " @attr 4=6 @attr 9=14 @attr 2=102 "test : test" | |
| 04:35 | Which is why it's working... | |
| 04:39 | Interesting... lots of punctuation creates problems | |
| 04:39 | Without errors | |
| 04:43 | Oh... but you can see it in the zebra logs.. | |
| 04:43 | test * test | |
| 04:43 | becomes: @and @and test @attr 5=2 "" test | |
| 04:44 | That's cool... * and ? really are both truncation characters after all.. | |
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| 05:01 | dcook | eythian: Are you still around? |
| 05:01 | Or anyone that uses packages... | |
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| 05:12 | dcook | I've investigated this before... |
| 05:12 | That's slightly depressing | |
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| 05:27 | dcook | Well that's confusing. The semicolon thing appears to only be in yaz-client.. |
| 05:27 | Koha seems to handle it fine? | |
| 05:29 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:29 | dcook | yo magnuse |
| 05:29 | magnuse | yo yo! |
| 05:30 | * magnuse | uses packages |
| 05:31 | dcook | Cool! |
| 05:31 | Does zebrasrv log anywhere? | |
| 05:38 | cdickinson | dcook: /var/log/koha/{site_name}/zebra[-{error|output}].log? |
| 05:38 | dcook | cdickinson: Sweet. Thanks :) |
| 05:38 | I was too lazy to boot up a VM to check | |
| 05:38 | We use a non-standard Koha setup, so I never know what all y'all are doing | |
| 05:39 | cdickinson | the machine I'm using now has some Koha test sites on it |
| 05:39 | debugging Zebra is so annoying | |
| 05:39 | dcook | You get used to it |
| 05:39 | Sort of ;) | |
| 05:40 | cdickinson | gives cryptic error messages |
| 05:40 | but they're unique at least so in that way they're helpful because you know what causes them | |
| 05:40 | mtj | thanks for the zeb info dcook |
| 05:40 | dcook | mtj: I figured out your problems |
| 05:41 | ('pb=Bloomsbury,') not Suppress=1 | |
| 05:41 | It's the single quotes | |
| 05:41 | It thinks you're saying 'pb is a qualifier | |
| 05:41 | (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 | |
| 05:41 | You're missing a second double quote | |
| 05:41 | Double quotes denote a term | |
| 05:41 | Single quotes are literals | |
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| 05:42 | dcook | cdickinson: Yeah some errors are easier to understand than others |
| 05:42 | For instance: | |
| 05:42 | H01215: [Tue Oct 13 16:48:50 2015] opac-search.pl: WARNING: query problem with (se,phr="Harry Potter ) not Suppress=1 ZOOM error 10014 "CCL parsing error" (addinfo: "')' expected") from diag-set 'ZOOM' at /home/mason/git/koha/3.20.x/C4/Search.pm line 384. | |
| 05:42 | That's a bit misleading | |
| 05:42 | It's actually a " which is expected... | |
| 05:42 | I guess it says ')' because it's treating ) as part of the term | |
| 05:43 | More fun? | |
| 05:43 | "This is a term" is good | |
| 05:43 | "This "is" a term" is good... it'll ignore the double quotes around is | |
| 05:43 | ""This is a term"" is bad | |
| 05:43 | As "" and "" are ignored | |
| 05:44 | More fun... | |
| 05:45 | cdickinson | lol |
| 05:45 | dcook | Host-item:"Criminology and criminal justice an international journal" |
| 05:45 | I need those double quotes to specify that's one big term | |
| 05:45 | So that the "and" doesn't get interpreted as an operator | |
| 05:45 | Well not one big term... | |
| 05:45 | But as a unit I guess.. | |
| 05:47 | Actually, I'm going to overload my brain in a moment :p | |
| 06:04 | magnuse | cdickinson++ for providing the right answer while i was elsewhere |
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| 06:48 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:48 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 06:49 | reiveune | salut magnuse rangi dcook |
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| 06:56 | magnuse | Viktor: is there a list somewhere of all the libraries in sweden that use koha? |
| 06:57 | Joubu | hello |
| 06:58 | dojobo | 'morning (or whatever) everyone |
| 06:58 | Viktor | magnuse Not really. Think it's been discussed briefly somewhere. But since there's (not yet) any user group it's sort of what I come across while being "the guy who works with Koha" |
| 07:00 | magnuse | Viktor: is there a list of what you have come across, then? :-) |
| 07:01 | Viktor | magnuse Not yet. But I'll try and give it a quick compile. |
| 07:01 | magnuse | yay |
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| 07:24 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 07:24 | atheia | morning cait! |
| 07:24 | cait | morning atheia :) |
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| 07:26 | cait | morning mveron |
| 07:26 | mveron | cait: You are fast! Good morning :-) |
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| 07:27 | mveron | ...and good morning / daytime to everybody |
| 07:27 | magnuse | hiya cait atheia mveron paul_p |
| 07:28 | mveron | Hi magnuse and paul_p |
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| 07:38 | dojobo | morning cait |
| 07:42 | * mveron | did a search for 'Remove C4::Dates': 31 Bugs, 15 need Sign-off, 6 Signed-off, 1 Fail, 9 Pushed. 4 files left on Bug 14870. And Bug 12072 is ready for testing, but needs all C4::Dates removals. |
| 07:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System |
| 07:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy | |
| 07:42 | cait | morning dojobo |
| 07:42 | wow | |
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| 09:18 | ashimema | morning cait |
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| 09:19 | cait | morning ashimema :) |
| 09:19 | magnuse | hiya ashimema |
| 09:19 | cait | Joubu: will try to continue tonight - i already started checking some of hte pages it changes too |
| 09:19 | ashimema | wow.. |
| 09:19 | huggin just gave me some laters dating back weeks.. | |
| 09:20 | sure I've taling in main chat more recnelty that that | |
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| 09:21 | ashimema | @later tell pianohacker is that not related to http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14034 |
| 09:21 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:21 | 04Bug 14034: normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , User logged out on refresh after Shibboleth authentication | |
| 09:26 | cait | ashimema: love the interaction on the rest api patches - keep the ball rolling :) |
| 09:26 | * ashimema | needs to look at them again soon |
| 09:26 | cait | and reminder - dev meeting tomorrow! |
| 09:27 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:27 | over google hangouts too if I get my way :) | |
| 09:31 | cait | hm might be good to annoucne then, if that's the plan |
| 09:31 | or do you want to do it in parallel? | |
| 09:31 | i have no access here to google hangouts at work | |
| 09:31 | ashimema | :( |
| 09:31 | cait | and no camera |
| 09:32 | ashimema | always throwing spanners cait. |
| 09:32 | it's the audio I was really after.. not the video | |
| 09:32 | it's generally more fruitful to talk then to type I find :0 | |
| 09:32 | cait | it's just quite unusual here for us - skype or google hangout - i have had problems with that a few times |
| 09:33 | ashimema | :( |
| 09:33 | cait | which time is the meeting anyway? *checks* |
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| 10:30 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 10:41 | * andreashm | waves |
| 10:41 | andreashm | cait: around? |
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| 10:57 | cait | here |
| 10:57 | oh | |
| 10:57 | now i missed him | |
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| 11:41 | ashimema | he's over there |
| 11:45 | cait | hm? |
| 11:46 | where is over there? :) | |
| 11:46 | ashimema | now you missed him? |
| 11:46 | lol | |
| 11:46 | cait | you are confusing me :) |
| 11:47 | ashimema | that's what I do best.. |
| 11:49 | * magnuse | declares "confuse cait" day |
| 11:49 | cait | hmpf |
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| 12:08 | druthb | magnuse! |
| 12:08 | wahanui | magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
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| 12:08 | druthb | be nice to cait, Or Else. |
| 12:17 | jcamins | francharb: hey, do I recall that you moved to Montreal? |
| 12:17 | cait | this cati wonders how she can create debarment entries... when the patron import doesn't :( |
| 12:17 | like... what if i want to add a debarment for a group of borrowers... hm. | |
| 12:18 | francharb | Hi jcamins! Yes I did! 2 years ago. |
| 12:18 | :) | |
| 12:18 | And I was in NY this week end | |
| 12:19 | Do you still live there? jcamins | |
| 12:19 | jcamins | Yes I do. |
| 12:19 | You should've let us know... you could've come to the milonga we went to on Saturday! | |
| 12:19 | It was excellent. | |
| 12:20 | We're thinking of a vacation in Montreal at the end of November. | |
| 12:27 | magnuse | jcamins: noooo, come to norway! |
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| 12:32 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:32 | nengard | morning tcohen |
| 12:33 | jcamins | magnuse: flights to Montreal are a whole lot cheaper. |
| 12:34 | nengard | norway is better though :) hehe |
| 12:35 | magnuse | jcamins: and shorter, i bet ;-) |
| 12:36 | jcamins | magnuse: that too. |
| 12:39 | magnuse | ...and therefore less damaging to the environment... |
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| 13:36 | * andreashm | waves |
| 13:38 | * Kchris | waves |
| 13:40 | cait | hi andreashm :) |
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| 13:47 | Kchris | hi cait :) |
| 13:47 | cait | hi Kchris |
| 13:48 | Kchris | I just tested a bug on the sandboxes (#2). I got an email that the sandbox was not ready, but it appears to me that the patch WAS applied. Does this make any sense? |
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| 13:50 | * andreashm | is back again. keep getting logged out today it seems. |
| 13:50 | cait | oh |
| 13:51 | *pokes andreashm to see if he is really here now* | |
| 13:51 | andreashm | I'm here! |
| 13:53 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 13:54 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 13:55 | andreashm | hi cait, tcohen |
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| 13:57 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 13:57 | andreashm | hey mtompset |
| 13:57 | wahanui | somebody said mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
| 13:57 | mtompset | Dev meeting in 3 minutes, right? |
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| 13:58 | andreashm | oh, dev meeting now? nice timing from me - I had forgotten. |
| 13:59 | mtompset | I think so. |
| 13:59 | wahanui: forget mtompset | |
| 13:59 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot mtompset |
| 13:59 | mtompset | mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects. |
| 14:00 | mtompset? | |
| 14:00 | wahanui | rumour has it mtompset is catching up on his other coding projects |
| 14:00 | cait | i think it's 14th |
| 14:00 | tomorrow | |
| 14:00 | wahanui | tomorrow is a mystical land where 99% of all human productivity, motivation and achievement is stored. |
| 14:00 | andreashm | ah, darned |
| 14:01 | mtompset | I just rechecked... You're right. |
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| 14:02 | mtompset | Greetings, andreashm cait. :) |
| 14:02 | Greetings, amyk | |
| 14:02 | amyk | hello! |
| 14:04 | mtompset | @karma druthb |
| 14:04 | huginn | mtompset: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
| 14:04 | * mtompset | smiles. |
| 14:05 | andreashm | anyone know if it is possible to pay fines through a web interface using any of Koha's API:s? (Other than SIP2) |
| 14:05 | cait | all i can think of is sip2 right now hm. |
| 14:05 | i think ils-di doesn't include that... did you check? | |
| 14:06 | andreashm | not yet, checked here first. (yes, the lazy option) |
| 14:07 | druthb | not bad karma for someone who hasn't contributed a patch in gosh-knows-when. |
| 14:07 | andreashm | @karma andreashm |
| 14:07 | huginn | andreashm: Karma for "andreashm" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. |
| 14:08 | cait | andreashm: i think kyle has written a patch to pay via paypal |
| 14:08 | but it will be directly in koha if pushed i think | |
| 14:10 | andreashm | We will want to use our current payment system (DIBS). We can fix the calls made to Koha, we just need the functionality set-up (either improve SIP2 or use something else). |
| 14:16 | mtompset | @karma mtompset |
| 14:16 | huginn | mtompset: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
| 14:17 | mtompset | @karma cait |
| 14:17 | huginn | mtompset: Karma for "cait" has been increased 263 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 263. |
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| 14:28 | andreashm | another question about fines: is it possible to change the description of the various fines somewhere? ("fines", "lost item" etc.) |
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| 14:36 | cait | andreashm: hm in what context? |
| 14:36 | the display shoudl be mostly translated by now - but not sure what you want to do | |
| 14:37 | andreashm | cait: We would want to change that to show our users when paying fines through our website. |
| 14:40 | cait | ah |
| 14:40 | the templates map the fines code to a description | |
| 14:41 | the codes are hardocded into Koha | |
| 14:41 | andreashm | ah, ok |
| 14:41 | cait | and then translated in the templates |
| 14:42 | hm not sure what SIP gives back - looking at the accountlines table the accounttype would be what i would use | |
| 14:42 | the description is often not ideal (yet) | |
| 14:42 | andreashm | I guess we will need to change that in our web implementation then. |
| 14:42 | cait | there are some places in Koha that still write some English terms here - like wehn you do a writeoff |
| 14:42 | but ideally that shoudl not be done | |
| 14:43 | andreashm | thanks cait! |
| 14:43 | cait++ | |
| 14:51 | drojf | the issue_id in the issues table is auto incremented. the issue_id in old_issues is not. why? |
| 14:51 | tcohen | cait, do u have the rights to add rel_3_22_candidate to bz's list of keywords? |
| 14:51 | cait | nope |
| 14:52 | drojf: correct | |
| 14:52 | because we move lines from issues to old_issues | |
| 14:52 | and they keep their id | |
| 14:52 | same for items deleteditems and the other tables where we move lines from here to there | |
| 14:52 | drojf | ah, i see. so it's not really possible to import circulation history from an old system? |
| 14:53 | cait | you can |
| 14:53 | but i'd import the circs first | |
| 14:53 | and then you know which numbers to use | |
| 14:53 | or the other way | |
| 14:53 | wahanui | i guess the other way is to pass the array as an arrayref |
| 14:53 | cait | you import the history and then you can set the PK in issues to the needed value |
| 14:53 | tcohen | cait: who can? |
| 14:54 | cait | tcohen: you can migrate circulation history |
| 14:54 | tcohen | cait: ok |
| 14:54 | cait | drojf: i think the latter is probably better - circ history first and then make sure the first pk is correct in issues - an example should be in updatedatabase from when we added the pk to reserves/old_reserves |
| 14:54 | drojf | ok but i have to set a fake id before import than? otherwise i will get an error for duplicate entry 0 |
| 14:55 | *then | |
| 14:55 | cait | can you generate an id? just 1 ... |
| 14:55 | and before you do issues, you set the counter like we did when introducing the feature | |
| 14:56 | drojf | sure. just making sure that is the right way |
| 14:56 | thanks. cait++ | |
| 14:57 | cait | nt sure there is a right way... but i think it could work :) |
| 14:57 | drojf | not sure if the library wants to keep the old data at all, so maybe that is not needed in the end |
| 14:58 | but good i checked before offering to do that :D | |
| 14:58 | cait | have to admit... we normally don't migrate history |
| 14:58 | drojf | i doubt it is necessary in this case |
| 14:59 | cait | btw... http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.24 :) |
| 14:59 | drojf | i have not wrangled much bugs this term :/ |
| 15:01 | cait | why did we translate ordered to Gebunden? :( |
| 15:01 | drojf | huh? that sounds weird? what context? |
| 15:02 | cait | order status |
| 15:03 | and why is the column with the number of ordered items named Pending order? | |
| 15:04 | * cait | got a long list of questions from a library |
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| 15:16 | * drojf | heads home |
| 15:17 | drojf | later #koha |
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| 15:22 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14966: Table header broken at detail.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f41df92fda3e51052> / Bug 14653: Acq planning export always use default active period <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8d492c1dafd291f0d> / Bug 14653: Acq planning filter always use default active period <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb |
| 15:28 | tcohen | this is what I call 'side effects' http://snag.gy/O2Hq1.jpg |
| 15:30 | cait | ugh? |
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| 15:41 | mtompset | tcohen: Nice support company page. It's a very clean look. |
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| 15:57 | nitz0 | Hi people, I am testing to send an email to notice overdue. I read that if I run koha_common from crontab daily directory is enough but nothing happens. How can I test mail from koha? |
| 16:00 | cait | did you configure the overdue notices? |
| 16:00 | you want tot ake a look at the triggers in the tools section | |
| 16:01 | also the delay given there needs to match with the due dates of your test items so a overdue notice gets generated | |
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| 16:06 | hector | mveron: Hi Marc |
| 16:07 | mveron | Hi Hector :-) |
| 16:07 | * mveron | has to run away, invitation to diner.. will be back in a couple of hours... |
| 16:07 | hector | I was looking that QA doesn't aprove the las change for bug 14956 |
| 16:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Remove C4::Dates from files opac/*.pl |
| 16:08 | mveron | Hector: I will look at thi bug later in the evening... |
| 16:08 | See you later... | |
| 16:09 | hector | okidoki |
| 16:10 | nitz0 | cait: Yes I think I did everything right. |
| 16:11 | It's not possible to force the email? | |
| 16:12 | Joubu | bye #koha |
| 16:20 | nitz0 | If I send the first notice the script will not send an email again? |
| 16:22 | Or where I can find the generated overdue notice...? | |
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| 18:24 | mtompset | views/temp/index.php |
| 18:24 | Oops. :) | |
| 18:25 | pianohacker | *gasp* |
| 18:25 | php-- | |
| 18:28 | mtompset | Corporate policy. Sorry. |
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| 18:29 | pianohacker | (I'm messing with a PHP CSM for a side project as well, so I can't really throw stones, but it's requisite :) ) |
| 18:29 | *CMS | |
| 18:30 | @later tell ashimema I'm catching up too, what was that in reference to? And would you like a signoff on that? | |
| 18:30 | huginn | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:48 | * cait | waves |
| 18:50 | wnickc | hi cait |
| 18:51 | cait | hi wnickc :) |
| 19:01 | * magnuse | waves |
| 19:07 | cait | :) |
| 19:11 | pianohacker | cait: confuse confuse confuse |
| 19:11 | cait | hmpf |
| 19:11 | pianohacker | hehehehe |
| 19:14 | magnuse | confuse all the things! |
| 19:14 | cait | not the cait things... |
| 19:18 | rangi | pianohacker: do you want easy baking recipes? I saw on FB |
| 19:18 | and morning | |
| 19:21 | pianohacker | rangi: oh, hi :) I'm fine with all recipes, love cooking |
| 19:21 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8rNRmmosmA |
| 19:21 | pianohacker | rangi: back from vacation? |
| 19:21 | rangi | for a couple of days more, then off to kohacon on friday |
| 19:22 | pianohacker | oh yeah that is soon |
| 19:22 | cool | |
| 19:22 | (YES jaboody dubs, I haven't seen that one) | |
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| 19:27 | * cait | waves |
| 19:29 | rangi | oh cool interesting email from Turkey |
| 19:36 | jcamins | It would be pretty cool if they integrated Tumer's Zebra changes to 3.x. |
| 19:36 | mtj | hey #koha |
| 19:36 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:37 | magnuse | yay turkey |
| 19:37 | rangi | we would have had most of them in if it wasnt for a certain angel investor who thought he was smarter than everyone, be great to get them. And having kohacon next door to turkey next year works out really well! |
| 19:38 | mtj | so.. is the Turkish Koha a modded verision 2.x ? |
| 19:38 | rangi | check your inbox |
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| 19:41 | rangi | https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]tober/043888.html |
| 19:41 | mtj | hmm, i did - but was a bit confused still |
| 19:41 | Project went live on 2014 April. ... It was a derived version of Koha 2.x | |
| 19:42 | rangi | 2.2 |
| 19:42 | pianohacker | how on earth are they doing that many bibs without zebra? |
| 19:42 | rangi | zebra is in there |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Tumer had a vastly superior Zebra configuration. |
| 19:42 | rangi | Tumer Garip did a ton of work on zebra, at kohacon6 |
| 19:42 | mtj | aaaah, ok |
| 19:42 | pianohacker | oh, gotcha |
| 19:42 | * mtj | <- mind blown |
| 19:43 | rangi | @later tell tcohen made the new keyword |
| 19:43 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:43 | mtj | wow, thats impressive |
| 19:43 | cait | will be really ineresting to see them moving to 3.20 |
| 19:43 | very very cool project | |
| 19:43 | hope it will be good for them and maybe we can get some of the zebra goodness...? | |
| 19:43 | rangi | yup |
| 19:44 | mtj | great to hear you are going to kohacon this year, rangi - (i was not sure) |
| 19:45 | rangi | yep, i think BWS and I might be the only non africans going |
| 19:45 | mtj | nice brooke too! :0) |
| 19:45 | jcamins | As long as Brooke is able to get her visa, anyway. |
| 19:45 | magnuse | isn't paul_p going? |
| 19:46 | jcamins | She said it hadn't arrived yet. |
| 19:46 | rangi | naw he got ill |
| 19:46 | magnuse | oh noes! |
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| 20:28 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 20:28 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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| 20:57 | tcohen1 | @later tell Joubu after reading your link, I realized the missing piece is Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath |
| 20:57 | huginn | tcohen1: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:58 | tcohen1 | hi |
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| 21:04 | bag | can’t be forgetting the middleware tcohen1 |
| 21:05 | tcohen1 | heh |
| 21:06 | * cait | waves |
| 21:07 | tcohen1 | hi cait |
| 21:07 | tcohen | so I now reveal my real identity |
| 21:07 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 21:07 | heh | |
| 21:07 | tcohen | rangi: thanks |
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| 21:09 | tcohen | rangi et al: on a packages install (master, preferably kohadevbox:ansible) there is this situation |
| 21:09 | if you trigger an update (like changing the version on the DB) | |
| 21:09 | with plack enabled | |
| 21:09 | rangi | right |
| 21:11 | tcohen | well, you will notice the form points to /intranet/ |
| 21:11 | which is the plack endpoint we have | |
| 21:11 | (in the apache config) | |
| 21:11 | rangi | right |
| 21:11 | tcohen | that means either apache is not sending the right headers |
| 21:12 | http-x-forward-for or something like that | |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | which os tcohen |
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| 21:12 | tcohen | or we need that other Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath lib (which I didn't make work) |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea: osx | |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | command-shift-3 for whole screen, command-shift-4 for selectable area |
| 21:13 | tcohen | thanks wizzyrea |
| 21:13 | !! | |
| 21:13 | I wasn't remembering to add ctrl | |
| 21:14 | so it goes to memory instead of a file | |
| 21:14 | http://snag.gy/6tqy3.jpg | |
| 21:15 | so, Joubu started to explore tweaking how we deal with paths in our codebase with the assumption we were doing things wrong (my assumption) | |
| 21:15 | but it seems we are not doing things that wrong, and there is a problem with this plack configuration schema | |
| 21:15 | any volunteer who likes puzzles is welcome :-D | |
| 21:16 | rangi | you have the reverseproxy stuff in apache eh? |
| 21:16 | tcohen | welcome, and needed |
| 21:17 | rangi | https://httpd.apache.org/docs/[…]#proxypassreverse |
| 21:17 | ? | |
| 21:17 | tcohen | rangi: this is it http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/master |
| 21:17 | we have both | |
| 21:17 | I think those work for response URLs | |
| 21:17 | rangi | have you tried it with just the reverse, and without the preserve host? |
| 21:17 | tcohen | hm, I think so |
| 21:19 | rangi: it might be that UDS proxying is just buggy | |
| 21:19 | but the mere existence of Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxyPath made me think we need more tweak on our psgi file | |
| 21:19 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/master | |
| 21:19 | rangi | yeah could be |
| 21:20 | tcohen | we definitely need more expert eyes on this |
| 21:22 | rangi | i wont have a chance until after kohacon |
| 21:22 | tcohen | ok rangi |
| 21:22 | it was worth trying :-D | |
| 21:23 | just more info for the logs: http://search.cpan.org/~bowman[…]verseProxyPath.pm | |
| 21:23 | the example creates the scenario by setting several headers, which are expected to be set by apache, anyone debugging this should check that, which could be the root cause | |
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| 21:32 | tcohen | thanks rangi |
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| 21:32 | rangi | no worries |
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| 21:36 | eythian | hi |
| 21:39 | * cait | waves |
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| 23:15 | * Francesca | waves |
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