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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:01 | BobB | hi mtj about? |
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| 00:28 | eythian | http://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks <-- good domain, entertaining read |
| 00:30 | wizzyrea | that graphic |
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| 00:51 | pianohacker | bye all |
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| 00:51 | pianohacker | ldap-- |
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| 02:25 | mtj | nice link eythian |
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| 03:20 | jcamins | @later tell paul_p How is the weather in Marseille in November? |
| 03:20 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:20 | eythian | @wunder marseille |
| 03:20 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0°C (5:00 AM CEST on October 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:20 | eythian | jcamins: 14° :) |
| 03:20 | but it's 5am, so probably warmer in a few hours | |
| 03:21 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 03:21 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Cedar Grove Cemetery, Flushing, New York, New York is 16.0°C (11:06 PM EDT on October 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:21 | jcamins | eythian: what I'm really concerned about, actually, is snow. I hate snow. |
| 03:22 | And sun. Cold and sunny I like. | |
| 03:22 | Cold and dreary, no. | |
| 03:24 | eythian | well, it says clear, but I don't recall what sort of humidity leads to snow, but I'm sure it's not 72% at 14° because that'd be a pretty freaky snowfall., |
| 03:24 | jcamins | It's also the beginning of October right now. |
| 03:41 | eythian | if ( $hits && $offset + $results_per_page <= $hits ) { |
| 03:41 | ^-- I misread that variable each time I see it. | |
| 03:47 | gah, and I just spent ages staring at something to see why it wasn't working. Turns out it was working just fine, I hadn't noticed. | |
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| 04:58 | Pete__ | Hello? Anyone out there? I'm looking for some Koha help... is this the right place? |
| 04:58 | eythian | it is |
| 04:58 | though, you're on a slightly odd timezone border so it's quiet about now. | |
| 04:59 | I think the US is asleep, NZ is about to go home, and europe is about to wake up. | |
| 04:59 | Pete__ | Haha, I'm in Chicago -- do you have time for a quick question? |
| 04:59 | Basically, I set up Koha for the first time for a small school here in Chicago | |
| 05:00 | I got the linux install ok no problem, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to add BOOKS in there from the school's library | |
| 05:00 | Is there by chance some "amazon lookup" thing where I don't have to enter in information about every single book? This school is just getting started from scratch. | |
| 05:00 | I must be missing something... right? | |
| 05:00 | eythian | it doesn't use amazon, but there is a lookup thing |
| 05:00 | it's called Z39.50 | |
| 05:01 | (because it's really old when those names were still cool.) | |
| 05:01 | Pete__ | Ha, nice, okay... I remember seeing that somewhere... |
| 05:01 | eythian | you can enter the ISBN and look it up in a bunch of libraries, e.g. library of congress. |
| 05:01 | ashimema | hi chaps |
| 05:01 | eythian | ashimema: howdy |
| 05:01 | wahanui | que tal, eythian |
| 05:02 | eythian | wahanui: I'm not talking to you |
| 05:02 | wahanui | eythian: sorry... |
| 05:02 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]en_Z39.50_Sources <-- Pete__, this might be useful if the sources you already have aren't helpful |
| 05:03 | that page could really do with some more entries | |
| 05:03 | Pete__ | I don't remember seeing that anywhere in the config, but at least now I have something to go on... |
| 05:03 | Thanks eythian for the link | |
| 05:03 | ashimema | or http://irspy.indexdata.com/ is often helpful |
| 05:03 | eythian | when you go to the cataloguing interface, there's an option to add from Z39.50 |
| 05:04 | oh yeah, that one I forget about | |
| 05:05 | Pete__ | Awesome. This is a small school library here but I'd still rather not ask them to enter in all the info manually. I'm sure we'll have to for at least a few things but the more I can automate the better. I'll check this out. Thanks guys. |
| 05:05 | eythian | oh yeah, you don't want to do this manually, that'd be terrible |
| 05:06 | you should be able to get it to the point of barcode scanning the ISBN, loading the record, tweaking a few things, and saving. | |
| 05:06 | 1-2 minutes per book rather than about half an hour each to catalogue it from scratch. | |
| 05:06 | Pete__ | Yes! That's what I'm shooting for. This Zebra thing is the answer to that, yes? |
| 05:06 | eythian | Z39.50, yes |
| 05:06 | Pete__ | Z39.50? |
| 05:06 | wahanui | i heard Z39.50 was the ANSI standard of the beast. |
| 05:06 | eythian | heh |
| 05:07 | (zebra is the search engine koha uses behind the scenes, but it can also talk z39.50, but you don't need to know that here :) | |
| 05:07 | Pete__ | awesome. Off I go. I'll return here at a more reasonable time next time! Have a good day / night / etc! |
| 05:07 | eythian | later, good luck! |
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| 06:52 | Joubu | Hello #koha |
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| 06:59 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:59 | wahanui | hi, reiveune |
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| 07:14 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:14 | wahanui | bonjour, alex_a |
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| 07:32 | dojobo | hi there |
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| 07:34 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 08:02 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:52 | mtj | drojf: i just read your apache email :) |
| 08:54 | ..i think now for debian jessie, disabling the 'default' apache will not break anything | |
| 08:54 | it seems to be a perfectly safe thing to do, 99% of the time | |
| 08:56 | drojf | mtj: i have been disabling that hundreds of times ;) |
| 08:56 | mtj | afaik, all web apps install themselves in the /etc/apache/conf.d/* dir |
| 08:57 | drojf | i have not done much with jessie yet, but a correctly (AFAIK) set up koha site did not get round the default website yesterday |
| 08:57 | mtj | ..so, they work just fine with the 'default' config disabled |
| 09:01 | ^ i would like to be corrected, if that is untrue | |
| 09:02 | drojf | mtompsett wll know ;) |
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| 09:11 | mtj | hey, i was thinking .... why not turn up DBI_TRACE on the jenkins nodes |
| 09:12 | i wonder if it would reveal any known problems | |
| 09:13 | s/known/unknown/ | |
| 09:14 | hmm, let me explain further... -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk | |
| 09:17 | perhaps the build times would become horrible, and it would use a f*ckton of disk | |
| 09:17 | but, just a thought.. | |
| 09:17 | ashimema | lol |
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| 10:47 | Joubu | I am stuck on bug 14778, need some help. If there are some DBIC exports around... The tests mocking the data fail after removing the use of DBIx::Connector |
| 10:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Get rid of DBIx::Connector |
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| 12:00 | jcamins | Joubu: you live in Marseille too, right? How's the weather? |
| 12:04 | drojf | jcamins: going to marseille? |
| 12:05 | jcamins | drojf: considering a vacation, and Marseille seemed to have affordable flights. |
| 12:05 | So did Oslo, so when magnuse is around, I'm going to ask him how crazy Oslo is as a vacation destination in November. | |
| 12:07 | drojf | that depends on the weather you would like to have i guess :D |
| 12:07 | liw | jcamins, if you go to Oslo in November, you should make sure you do not get eaten by polar bears |
| 12:08 | (this is usually quite easy, as there aren't any in Oslo, unless they have a zoo with them) | |
| 12:09 | jcamins | drojf: I'm not a huge fan of snow and dark, so Oslo seems like it might be a poor choice... on the other hand, maybe Oslo is especially beautiful in November. |
| 12:10 | drojf | i think snow is what makes the north less dark in winter. that and the northern lights :) |
| 12:10 | liw | oslo is about as northern as helsinki, so I'm going to say the daylight hours are going to be few and short in November |
| 12:10 | but as Oslo is at an ocean, and Helsinki is not, I don't know how the weather in Oslo is going to be | |
| 12:11 | (Helsink is miserable in November) | |
| 12:11 | jcamins | liw: yeah, that I know. The question is whether there are enough advantages to Oslo in November. |
| 12:11 | liw | (better in January, when there's snow on the ground) |
| 12:11 | jcamins, the almost total lack of polar bears is an advantage, wouldn't you say? :) | |
| 12:11 | jcamins | liw: hehe. |
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| 12:43 | Joubu | jcamins: no I live in Liverpool now, for 2 years :) |
| 12:43 | There was flooding last week in the south of France, near Nice | |
| 12:43 | for the weather forecast, have a look at the meteofrance.fr website: http://www.meteofrance.com/pre[…]e/marseille/13000 | |
| 12:44 | If you plan to come on Saturday it will be sunny, otherwise rain on the beginning of next week :-/ | |
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| 12:47 | tcohen | morning! |
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| 12:57 | jcamins | Joubu: I'm thinking about a vacation for November, actually. |
| 13:04 | drojf | do we know who uses plack in production already? |
| 13:05 | dpavlin's library probably. some biblibre libraries too maybe? | |
| 13:06 | tcohen: are you running plack in production? | |
| 13:06 | tcohen | drojf: i played with it |
| 13:07 | i found a couple problems that need to be addressed | |
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| 13:07 | tcohen | drojf: did you give kohadevbox/ansible a chance? |
| 13:08 | so far: upgrade needed detection yields weird situation where you cannot login | |
| 13:08 | cannot create label batches | |
| 13:10 | Joubu: good morning | |
| 13:10 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
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| 13:15 | tcohen | ashimema++ |
| 13:16 | Joubu | jcamins: so it will certainly be a bit cold, but if you are lucky you will get sun, blue sky and no wind :) |
| 13:16 | ashimema | ? |
| 13:16 | drojf | tcohen: will have to wait for the new notebook probably. not doing much koha at home et the moment and the office computer is too slow for everything and not capable of the 64bit vt |
| 13:17 | ashimema | we're runing plack and cgi in parallel to test plack in production |
| 13:17 | bit cutsomre.. | |
| 13:17 | burrently we're hvin some teething issues with db connections going away.. | |
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| 13:17 | ashimema | but i'm struggling to narrow them down enough to make head nor tails of it. |
| 13:18 | Joubu | ashimema: I hope it should be better when bug 14778 will be pushed |
| 13:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Get rid of DBIx::Connector |
| 13:19 | drojf | are there other koha benchmarking things than what is in load_testing st the moment? |
| 13:19 | ashimema | Joubu.. would it be a good idea to get ribasushi to give that patch a once over.. |
| 13:19 | drojf | or benchmarking in general that people use with koha |
| 13:20 | ashimema | I still havn't managed to pin down the actual issue.. he thought/we thought there was somtihng wrong in dbic itself that meant our usage was loosing connections.. |
| 13:20 | Joubu | at the moment I am stuck with it, see the last patch on the bug report. I didn't manage to make some tests pass |
| 13:20 | ashimema | but I've been crap at maanging to dig out the details.. the commithash went away that was mentioned to him when we first came accros it as a bug |
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| 13:32 | schnydszch | Hello all! If I update the marcxml in biblioitems, are there any repercussions? I see that there's a marc column and marcxml columns. |
| 13:32 | ..in the biblioitems table | |
| 13:34 | I wanted to update the RLIN of the authority records | |
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| 13:35 | schnydszch | which is 650$9 |
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| 13:40 | drojf | @later tell wizzyrea i just found that the page title displayed by google for git.koha-community.org is "git.koha.org". can that be changed maybe? http://abunchofthings.net/koha/pics/git_title.png |
| 13:40 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14890: Simplify processing to display a date with hours <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0907cd14f03dd77c4> / Bug 14890: Remove C4::Dates from circ/bookcount.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2280bbd6d78ab0783> / Bug 14924: Remove C4::Dates from members/memberentry.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k |
| 14:46 | drojf | oh, we had a meeting yesterday? |
| 14:47 | or, did not have, but were supposed to? | |
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| 16:30 | nitz0 | Hi people. |
| 16:31 | Is there another way than editing Sendmail.pm to configure smntp service? | |
| 16:31 | (koha 3.20 packet) | |
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| 17:58 | pianohacker | hi! |
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| 18:09 | wnickc | hi Kchris |
| 18:09 | Kchris | hi wnickc |
| 18:10 | congratulations! | |
| 18:12 | wnickc: gitifying koha on a kohabox--is this pretty straightforward? | |
| 18:12 | I mean on a virtualbox | |
| 18:13 | wnickc | It should be, you mean one of the boxes from the Kohana wiki |
| 18:13 | Kchris | yes |
| 18:13 | wnickc | yeah, just following the instrcutions should go easily https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
| 18:14 | Kchris | thanks! |
| 18:14 | wnickc | the images were package installs, so nothing tricky I don't think |
| 18:15 | Kchris | I finally got the languages to install on kohadevbox (with help from Magnus), but I haven't yet managed to "activate" the languages within the administrator web interface. |
| 18:16 | Only English shows up in the preferences--the other languages I have installed don't. | |
| 18:19 | wnickc | hmm..I know I got them working on my vm, but I think I didn't use the package tools to do so |
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| 19:31 | tcohen1 | hi |
| 19:32 | hi | |
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| 20:05 | wizzyrea | drojf: I think gmcharlt may have to fix that, or someone at bywater, that's not a web property I have much to do with. |
| 20:05 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: what's the antecedent? |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | drojf: "i just found that the page title displayed by google for git.koha-community.org is "git.koha.org". can that be changed maybe? http://abunchofthings.net/koha/pics/git_title.png" |
| 20:05 | :) | |
| 20:11 | gmcharlt | hmm, doesn't look like that string is being returned by the Koha gitweb |
| 20:11 | Google may be hangling on to an outdated titile since we're excluding robots from that server | |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | probably do need to allow them to index the home page? |
| 20:12 | though, not like we've changed it (or ever change it) | |
| 20:13 | gmcharlt | yeah, I've put in a less restricive robots.txt |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt++ awesome thank you |
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| 20:43 | kchris | wizzrea: what does ++ after a nickname mean? is it like a compliment? |
| 20:44 | sorry, wizzyrea | |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | it denotes adding karma |
| 20:45 | so each time you ++ | |
| 20:45 | they get a point | |
| 20:45 | @karma gmcharlt | |
| 20:45 | huginn | wizzyrea: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 164 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 164. |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | we like him :) |
| 20:45 | you can also -- but we don't do that very often | |
| 20:45 | gmcharlt | cthulhu-- |
| 20:45 | @karma cthulhu | |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | @karma cthulu |
| 20:45 | huginn | gmcharlt: Karma for "cthulhu" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea: cthulu has neutral karma. | |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 20:46 | @karma IE | |
| 20:46 | huginn | wizzyrea: Karma for "IE" has been increased 1 time and decreased 27 times for a total karma of -26. |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | we don't like IE |
| 20:46 | ^.^ | |
| 20:46 | well, we do -- pretty often... on IE. | |
| 20:46 | hehe | |
| 20:46 | kchris | I see. |
| 20:47 | gmcharlt | since IE is not actually a person, after all |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | yes, exactly. and it is also deserving of ire. |
| 20:47 | kchris | wizzyrea++ thanks for the explanation. |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | but yes, good point we don't normally decrement people. |
| 20:47 | \o/ | |
| 20:48 | @karma wizzyrea | |
| 20:48 | huginn | wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 65 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 65. |
| 20:48 | liw | kchris++ much polite, very plusplus |
| 20:48 | kchris | @karma kchris |
| 20:48 | huginn | kchris: Karma for "kchris" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | hehe liw |
| 20:48 | liw | @karma liw |
| 20:49 | huginn | liw: Karma for "liw" has been increased 11 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 11. |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | oh you deserve more than that |
| 20:49 | liw | I don't even do anything for Koha |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | liw++ |
| 20:49 | bs, you did like, heaps of stuff for the packages that we still use and depend on | |
| 20:49 | we should praise you every time we koha-create | |
| 20:49 | :) | |
| 20:50 | one of the things I particularly like about working with Koha, is that whenever I use a part of it, I can reasonably say that I know the person who made it. | |
| 20:51 | liw | possibly I should try to find an opportunity to do a new bit, but it'd need to be in some kind of sprint with people who know Koha, some day |
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| 20:51 | wizzyrea | (but seriously, without the kick in the pants you gave the packaging, nobody would have ever gotten around to it) |
| 20:52 | liw | I'm really glad it helped the Koha community :) |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 20:52 | liw | Koha continues to be one of nicer free software communities, ever |
| 20:53 | even if I learn to never, ever anger research librarians, for they politely show you every way in which you're wrong, and use footnotes and source references | |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | hahaha! |
| 20:54 | it's funny because it's true | |
| 20:55 | liw | beginning of 2010 was a year when things happened |
| 20:55 | however, now sleep should happen to me | |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | sleep well :) |
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| 21:26 | grharry | I seem to get a problem after running update_bin/devel/dbix_class_files.pl /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Schema/Result/Reserve.pm file is Different than the Original ... Anybody with An IDEA ??? |
| 21:27 | sorry I mean after running /usr/share/koha/bin/devel/update_dbix_class_files.pl | |
| 21:38 | :-( | |
| 21:38 | :P | |
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| 21:41 | eythian | hi |
| 21:41 | wahanui | hola, eythian |
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| 21:46 | cdickinson | I just ran apt-get upgrade on this machine |
| 21:46 | Reading package lists... 342% | |
| 21:46 | wat | |
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| 22:23 | wizzyrea | O.o |
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| 22:47 | tcohen | morning? |
| 22:49 | Francesca | hi |
| 22:51 | eythian | tcohen: only just |
| 22:51 | tcohen | hi eythian |
| 22:52 | eythian | wahanui: smart questions |
| 22:52 | wahanui | eythian: i'm not following you... |
| 22:52 | eythian | wahanui: smart questions is <reply>http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 22:52 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 23:08 | Francesca | wahanui be eythian |
| 23:08 | wahanui | Sod it all, let's head to the pub! |
| 23:08 | cdickinson | it's one of those days |
| 23:08 | is it too early for beer | |
| 23:09 | Francesca | I'm not coming so its up to you |
| 23:09 | cdickinson | nah, I'm not actually going to drink |
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