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03:05 | Amit_Gupta | hi all |
03:30 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha Amit_Gupta wizzyrea. |
03:31 | wizzyrea | later |
03:32 | Amit_Gupta | heya wizzyrea |
03:32 | wahanui | wizzyrea is desperate to make a snarky reply here, but I'm not feeling very creative :) |
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06:16 | * magnuse | waves |
06:18 | dcook | yo magnuse |
06:18 | * dcook | also waves to a quiet cait |
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06:24 | magnuse | yo dcook! |
06:24 | does kohacon16 voting end today? | |
06:26 | reiveune | hello |
06:27 | * magnuse | wonders why @kohails is tweeting about yoga |
06:29 | dcook | Mmm dunno? |
06:29 | on either count | |
06:29 | yo reiveune | |
06:30 | reiveune | salut dcook |
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06:33 | fridolin | hie there |
06:43 | magnuse | bonjour fridolin |
06:45 | * cait | waves back and runs off to work |
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06:56 | fridolin | bonjour tout le monde |
06:58 | Joubu | hi |
06:58 | wahanui | que tal, Joubu |
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06:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
06:59 | wahanui | hi, alex_a |
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07:09 | dcook | laters all |
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07:13 | drojf | morning #kohaq |
07:13 | koha even | |
07:18 | magnuse: yes it does, at 12 utc | |
07:18 | then it will only take a week to clean out the cheaters until you all get the results :P | |
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08:01 | magnuse | drojf: cool :-) |
08:05 | * cait | waves |
08:13 | * magnuse | waves back |
08:15 | drojf | hi cait |
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09:00 | schnydszch | hello koha community! |
09:01 | can somebody here knows how to read nytprof? | |
09:02 | and interpret so I can adjust what needs optimization | |
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09:16 | Joubu | schnydszch: Have you read the wiki page? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]th_Devel::NYTProf |
09:16 | schnydszch | yes |
09:17 | in fact I already have the nytprof | |
09:18 | Filename/usr/lib/perl5/Net/Z3950/ZOOM.pm StatementsExecuted 0 statements in 0s Subroutines CallsPFExclusive TimeInclusive TimeSubroutine 181112.6s12.6sNet::Z3950::ZOOM::resultset_record (xsub) 1211457ms457msNet::Z3950::ZOOM::event (xsub) 1111.86ms1.86msNet::Z3950::ZOOM::query_ccl2rpn (xsub) 1811244µs392µsNet::Z3950::ZOOM::record_get 201197µs97µsNet::Z3950::ZOOM::connection_error_x (xsub) 181193µs93µsNet::Z3950:: | |
09:18 | drojf | schnydszch: maybe use paste for such things, thats better to read |
09:18 | paste? | |
09:18 | wahanui | I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org |
09:19 | schnydszch | I see that subroutine resultset_record has a time of 12.6s with 18 calls (?) |
09:19 | http://paste.koha-community.org/73 | |
09:20 | what flavor is your paste wahanui? | |
09:20 | :) | |
09:22 | Joubu | schnydszch: you should have a look at bug 13665 |
09:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13665 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from zebra is slow |
09:24 | schnydszch | so it's a bug? |
09:26 | any advise then on what to do? | |
09:26 | I've already optimized the mysql database | |
09:27 | Joubu | How did you reach this call? What are you trying do to? |
09:28 | schnydszch | I search for a keyword |
09:28 | a keyword that gives me 245k plus | |
09:28 | of records | |
09:28 | Joubu | How are the facets calculated? |
09:30 | schnydszch | sorry, how do I know how facets are calculated? |
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09:31 | Joubu | grep use_zebra_facets $KOHA_CONF |
09:33 | schnydszch | it hanged when I issued that Joubu |
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09:35 | Joubu | Does $KOHA_CONF defined? |
09:36 | well, in your koha-conf.xml file, there should be a use_zebra_facets tag, if set to 1, you are using the facets calculated and retrieved from zebra | |
09:36 | these are correctly calculated facets, but it depends on the number of results | |
09:36 | schnydszch | yeah it's one |
09:37 | Joubu | If the tag does not exist or set to 0, you are using the old way: wrong facet but fast |
09:37 | schnydszch: ok so it's a known bug, the one I gave you | |
09:37 | schnydszch | so if I change to 0, searching will be faster? |
09:37 | Joubu | yes |
09:38 | schnydszch | do i need to reindex this? |
09:38 | Joubu | no |
09:38 | schnydszch | ok I'll try |
09:38 | Joubu | you should def read the description of bug 13665 |
09:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13665 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from zebra is slow |
09:39 | Joubu | "facets are retrieved from zebra" means use_zebra_facets = 1 |
09:39 | "the old facet method" means 0 or does not exist | |
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09:50 | itsallonfire | Good morning. :) I've inherited an old Koha system that I know very little about. It was plodding along nicely until we had a power cut yesterday. Prodding about I think some of the files may have vanished on me. I'm getting "File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/js" pop up in the error log. When I browse to the htdocs folder it contains an intranet-tmpl folder but nothing else. Any thoughts? |
09:52 | cait | schnydszch: less accurate (you want to turn off the number shown behind the facet) but way faster for big collections |
09:52 | Joubu | itsallonfire: What's the Koha version? |
09:56 | schnydszch | thanks Joubu cait but I seemed to messed up with the test server when I deleted all files in tmp, which I should have only deleted the nytprofs |
09:56 | so I'm getting this instead: Software error: Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. | |
09:57 | Joubu | Check the DB conn |
09:57 | itsallonfire | That's a very good question. Is there any way to find that out when it's not running? |
09:57 | Joubu | KOHA_CONF defined correctly, restart mysql/mariadb |
09:58 | itsallonfire: grep VERSION kohaversion.pl | |
09:58 | schnydszch | a ha the mysql percona server I installed |
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10:08 | itsallonfire | I just get "grep: kohaversion.pl: No such file or directory" |
10:09 | Although the latest set of release notes on the doc folder is for 3.0.5 | |
10:10 | cait | itsallonfire: can you get into the mysqldatabas? |
10:10 | check if that is still ok? | |
10:10 | if you can, this should give you the version: select * from systempreferences where variable = "Version" | |
10:11 | if it deleted all the koha things... that sounds really bad | |
10:14 | Francesca | essay writing |
10:14 | wahanui | essay writing is evil |
10:14 | Francesca | sigh |
10:14 | cdickinson | evil |
10:15 | wahanui: literal evil | |
10:15 | wahanui | cdickinson: huh? |
10:15 | itsallonfire | That vomes back with 3.0402000 |
10:16 | cait | hm ok |
10:16 | that's a pretty old version | |
10:16 | i think i'd recommend to do a mysqldump first and keep that save | |
10:16 | Francesca | itsallonfire: hope your problem gets sorted out but on a totally unrelated note you have an awesome nickname |
10:16 | itsallonfire | Thanks. :D |
10:17 | cait | Joubu: what do you think about reinstalling Koha for itsallonfire - not sure what would be best? |
10:17 | drojf | what cait says. then install latest koha on a test system and try to set up an instance with the db dump. that should upgrade your old stuff and work if the db is ok |
10:18 | cait | but 3.4.2 would be quite a jump in features and appearance i think |
10:18 | from 3.4.2 to a latest 3.20 version that would be | |
10:18 | drojf | yes, a lot of new awesomeness :) |
10:19 | Joubu | cait: I think it's time to upgrade, yes :) |
10:19 | drojf | but if it works on a test installation, you know the db is alright and you can respawn koha |
10:19 | cait | true, probably needs to switch to dom too |
10:19 | drojf | or you run into problems. some of which can be fixed |
10:19 | cait | if not frm nozebra to zebra :) |
10:20 | itsallonfire | It's really odd. If I try to browse to it, the server takes me to the phpMyAdmin login page. If I try to log in to that, it takes me to a 404 koha page. |
10:20 | drojf | there was nozebra still in 3.04? :) |
10:20 | Joubu | but if the issue is that some files have been deleted (??), git should be able to restore them |
10:20 | itsallonfire | Pretty sure it uses zebra. |
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10:20 | drojf | that sounds like your apache is confused |
10:20 | itsallonfire | As I have to run some command to rebuild it occasionally. |
10:20 | cait | ah ok |
10:21 | i think if the db is not compromised... you will be fine in the end | |
10:21 | Joubu | dump it now :) |
10:21 | drojf | yes we are curious :D |
10:21 | itsallonfire | I have dumps of both the koha and kohadata databases. |
10:22 | cait | hm |
10:22 | there should only be one | |
10:22 | itsallonfire | fair enough. |
10:22 | I imagine one was an old test then | |
10:22 | cait | yeah, that could be |
10:23 | Francesca | @wunder wlf |
10:23 | huginn` | Francesca: Error: No such location could be found. |
10:23 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
10:23 | huginn` | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (10:00 PM NZST on September 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
10:23 | * cait | hands over to drojf ;) |
10:23 | cait | and Joubu |
10:24 | i have to take care of an acq migration data mappig now... *sigh* | |
10:24 | drojf | i have to leave in a minute. just looking if i find notes on what i had to do with the sql of an old installation |
10:24 | i may lurk on the phone if irc works there ;) | |
10:25 | Francesca | and i have an essay to write |
10:25 | not that I'd be able to help much with this problem anyways | |
10:25 | but still | |
10:25 | essays | |
10:26 | drojf | itsallonfire: what version of mysql are you on? 5.x? |
10:27 | my notes were for installing koha 2.2.6 on wheezy :D dealing with the switch to mysql 5.x | |
10:27 | i think that won't be necessary | |
10:27 | itsallonfire | 5.1.54 |
10:27 | drojf | ok |
10:27 | that should work | |
10:27 | itsallonfire | it's running on ubuntu 11.04 |
10:28 | This whole thing is ancient... | |
10:28 | drojf | that could use an upgrade too |
10:28 | indeed ;) | |
10:28 | not sure how well recent koha works on 11.04 | |
10:29 | Joubu | Check the hardware before upgrading everything |
10:30 | drojf | probably do a test installation in either latest ubuntu LTS or debian wheezy/jessie |
10:30 | itsallonfire | I could always spin up a new virtual server, bung a new linux install on it. |
10:30 | drojf | i'd recommend that to try the db/test the upgrade |
10:31 | later #koha | |
10:32 | itsallonfire | Righto, I'll give that a bash and report back. Cheers everyone. :) |
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10:34 | drojf | seems to work |
10:34 | irc on the phone that is | |
10:35 | itsallonfire | Brucey bonus. |
10:37 | cait | bbl |
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10:53 | itsallonfire | Hmm... With my various proddings, I appear to have coaxed it back to life. |
10:54 | I'm still going to carry on with the test server and the new version. Because frankly I could do with knowing more about it. | |
10:54 | And I don't trust it! ;) | |
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11:05 | drojf | what did you do to reanimate it? |
11:05 | Joubu | cardiac massage certainly |
11:10 | itsallonfire | I wish I knew. |
11:11 | After a couple of attempts, I started getting the koha login screen instead of the phpMySql one. The patrons were all there, but I couldn't search the catalogue. | |
11:12 | That happens sometimes, and I run "perl rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a" which didn't do the trick on this occasion. | |
11:12 | So I switched it off and on again. ;) | |
11:13 | I may have also threatened the server with the special hammer I keep in there. | |
11:36 | cait | hm -z |
11:36 | you shoudln#t need to run that if it was set up correctly | |
11:37 | it means only reindexing the newly changed records since yur last index time... which hsould be automated | |
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11:56 | cait | itsallonfire: if you reinstall koha for testing, make sure you install the packages |
11:56 | packages? | |
11:56 | wahanui | well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
11:56 | cait | itsallonfire: it will make everything in the future easier |
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11:59 | drojf | time to close the vote, right cait? |
12:00 | in a minute | |
12:00 | now? | |
12:00 | wahanui | hey now now, sing this corrosion to me |
12:01 | * magnuse | cheers drojf on |
12:03 | Joubu | wait! I forgot to vote several times! |
12:03 | drojf | bad internet, deactivated |
12:03 | lol | |
12:04 | cait | close the vote! |
12:04 | all the votes! | |
12:04 | i missed my moment... right? | |
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12:13 | magnuse | heh, in wavemon, if you press f8 for help, it just says "don't panic" in friendly letters |
12:13 | misilot | how do I check in an issue? I feel like I am missing it somewhere |
12:14 | or receive* | |
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12:14 | marcelr | hi #koha |
12:15 | drojf++ Joubu++ # 14321 | |
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12:27 | cait | :) |
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13:03 | tcohen | morning |
13:04 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
13:04 | tcohen | hi magnuse |
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13:05 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
13:06 | Joubu | hi tcohen |
13:07 | * cait | waves |
13:07 | tcohen | Joubu: it seems you are back :-D |
13:07 | * tcohen | is staring at his queue |
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13:10 | tcohen | Joubu: would you prefer to add the option to include items at a set-level? |
13:10 | cait | sounds cryptic |
13:12 | Joubu | tcohen: where? In the conf file? |
13:13 | tcohen: What I understood from the discussion was it is better to put it in the conf file | |
13:13 | marcelr | hi tcohen magnuse Joubu cait and others |
13:13 | Joubu | we cannot do it in the conf file for set-level |
13:13 | tcohen: it could be added later if needed by someone | |
13:14 | the config file would contain the default value, which could be overwritten by the set-level | |
13:24 | cait | i think oai works totally without sets too, doesn't it? so sets are optional? |
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13:27 | tcohen | we shouldn't ask for a yaml file, but for yaml content on the syspref |
13:30 | Joubu | yes, defo |
13:32 | magnuse | cait: yup |
13:41 | tcohen | Joubu, marcelr: 14197 definitely fixes the warn, but do we need to handle the transaction inside testbuilder? |
13:41 | Joubu | Since we only use it for tests, I'd say yes |
13:42 | Actually it should be moved to DataBuilder or something, and TestBuilder would use it and handle the transaction | |
13:42 | tcohen | Joubu: but is always superseded by the test file's transaction handling |
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13:43 | marcelr | not always? |
13:43 | tcohen | i'm pushing it, but we could consider just removing it |
13:43 | once you write that refactoring you've just volunteered to :-P | |
13:43 | marcelr | you could just depend on testbuilder for the transaction? |
13:56 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13622: [QA Follow-up] Add unit test descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bb4a8b79c27a9fa49> / Bug 13622: Display a datetime without time in a notice <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f232d4338b10eba3e> / Bug 14813: Fix encoding issues on editing help pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g |
14:06 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14640: 'Cancel Hold' check box on check-out confirmation does not cancel the... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]268c592c0cc578a8c> / Bug 14640: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0b52682efcf83a962> / Bug 10005: Inventory - Add an option to not check in items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh | |
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14:24 | marcelr | Failed test 'use Koha::Sitemapper;' |
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14:46 | tcohen | unimarc author? |
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14:56 | cait | marcelr: nice feature - the reminder notices |
14:56 | marcelr | yes it is |
14:57 | cait | marcelr++ |
15:02 | tcohen | Joubu: do u have a UNIMARC testing env? |
15:11 | Joubu | yes of course :) |
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15:15 | cait | hm is there a possibility to send separate DUEDGST for each branch? |
15:16 | all items of one brnach in one notice? and another for the next branch? | |
15:16 | what i currently see is that koha uses tha patron home library and includes all items fromall branches in the notice | |
15:20 | drojf | we're going to greece :) |
15:20 | at least i hope i'm going :D | |
15:21 | cait | successful_decision_making++ :) |
15:22 | and drojf++ for runnign the vote | |
15:24 | tcohen | marcelr: where did u get that error? |
15:25 | marcelr | it is in the jenkins logs |
15:25 | tcohen | ah |
15:25 | that was on the 12.04+mariadb node | |
15:25 | problem solved: i deleted the node | |
15:25 | :-P | |
15:26 | no, seriously, there was a missing dependency for the tests | |
15:28 | drojf | can we go to greece now? i bet its warmer |
15:28 | @wunder thessaloniki | |
15:28 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 28.0°C (6:20 PM EEST on September 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
15:28 | drojf | want |
15:29 | barton | tcohen: I have a question about some zebra indexes that one of our partner wants to add -- I'd like to know if I can get them into community, or whether I should simply make them custom changes for the library... |
15:29 | tcohen | that's a fair question, what are those indexes? |
15:29 | marcelr | greece++ |
15:29 | nice in may or june :) | |
15:29 | barton | they want to extend ISSN to include $x for 770, 775, 780, 785, and extend ISBN to include $z for 770, 775, 780, 785 |
15:30 | marcelr | have to go |
15:32 | Joubu | "Category MY_CAT is in use. Deletion not possible!", and you get a big button "Delete this category"... hum.. |
15:32 | tcohen | barton: I think it makes sense, but maybe ask on the list |
15:32 | barton | dev list? |
15:32 | tcohen | yeap |
15:32 | * Joubu | wants to click |
15:32 | barton | ok. I'll do that. thanks. |
15:33 | tcohen | Joubu: don't! |
15:33 | cait | barton: not sure that's a good idea |
15:33 | tcohen | you never push a big red button |
15:34 | cait | barton: I think the 7xx are linking fields |
15:34 | Joubu | Well, just got an error :) |
15:34 | cait | if you put them in the same index as issn/isbn - wouldn't that throw off the matching on issn/isbn for imports? |
15:35 | i am not sure if the matching only checks the index or also if the value is in a specific field - joy might now | |
15:35 | barton | cait. good point. |
15:35 | tcohen | cait: the field |
15:35 | wahanui | the field is mandatory or not |
15:35 | barton | talljoy ^^ |
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15:35 | cait | also an isbn search would find all records linked to it - it woudl be quite unspecific in some cases |
15:36 | maybe a new index? | |
15:36 | not sure about their use case | |
15:36 | not against indexig it in genral... just not sure about rusing the existing indexes, it might make them 'fuzzy' | |
15:36 | talljoy | we are talking about the obscure isbn index on 7xx |
15:36 | Joubu | (it just check a variable that is used in ... another script, c/p is baaad!) |
15:37 | talljoy | that's a good question about the match. |
15:37 | barton | talljoy -- yeah, the question is whether it would affect record matching. any ideas? |
15:37 | cait | hm wonder if this could be handles similar to 001/$w |
15:37 | barton | jinkx. |
15:37 | cait | we have Control-number index for 001 - but the $w that are used with the 001 number for linking are in rcn - record-control-number I think |
15:37 | talljoy | i think....it checks the specified tag in the incoming record against the entire index. so you could match an 'unmatchable' record if the isbn was in 7xx tag |
15:38 | in the database | |
15:38 | cait | hm that's what i thought, but was not sure |
15:38 | barton | Yeah... I also wonder about ISBN normalization, come to think of it... |
15:39 | talljoy | i think the match checks would help here, but I've never gotten 'match checks' to work on import. |
15:40 | barton | Ok, so at this point, I'm feeling like if we want to add these to separate indexes, we're ok, but adding them to the existing indexes would be messy. |
15:40 | cait | barton: did they specify what they want to do ? :) |
15:40 | * cait | tends to agree |
15:42 | barton | cait: I'm not *really* sure what they're using thos indexes for... I think that they just happen to have ISBNs/ISSNs in the 7XX range tht they want to search on. |
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15:57 | cait | @marc 750 |
15:57 | huginn` | cait: unknown tag 750 |
15:57 | cait | @marc 770 |
15:57 | huginn` | cait: Information concerning the supplement or special issue associated with the target item but cataloged and/or input as a separate record (vertical relationship). When a note is generated from this field, the introductory phrase Has supplement: may be generated based on the field tag for display. (Repeatable) [b,c,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,6,7,8] |
16:05 | Joubu | Should we expect 1000 Koha users for the KohaCon16?? |
16:05 | cait | was wondering something similar earlier |
16:05 | could be the biggest one so far :) | |
16:06 | well you never know | |
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16:14 | drojf | how many came to reno? |
16:15 | i think they had ~400 voted? | |
16:16 | votes | |
16:17 | anyway i hope they have a huge university :D | |
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16:34 | Joubu | (and good beers) |
16:34 | Have a good evening #koha! | |
16:36 | lari | Joubu, bug 12426, sorry I didn't find the trailing whitespaces (i didnt get any complaints either)? |
16:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, larit, Needs Signoff , Allow resending of emails from the notices tab in the patron account |
16:39 | lari | cait, pending messages are excluded from resend in the notices table. would you like to have it in the ResendMessage() subroutine as well? |
16:40 | cait | hm it might make sense - it wouldn't change something, right? |
16:40 | timestamp maybe, but that is not used anywhere it hink | |
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16:42 | lari | it shouldnt change anything |
16:43 | cait | because updating pending to pending... :) |
16:44 | nitz0 | hi everybody |
16:44 | cait | hi nitz0 |
16:44 | nitz0 | hi cait |
16:45 | lari | yeah, pointless 2 queries ^^ |
16:45 | actually just one since we need to get the message anyway, but still :) | |
16:50 | okay it's there :) have a great evening, bye! | |
16:53 | cait | bye :) |
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18:10 | * magnuse | waves to nengard |
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18:12 | * nengard | waves back |
18:16 | magnuse | anyone know if there are tools for translating .po files that run on windows? like poedit or lokalize? |
18:25 | cdickinson | magnuse: poedit is available on Windows - https://poedit.net/download |
18:26 | tmcmahon | magnuse: I haven't tried any, but poedit and others are listed here: http://alternativeto.net/softw[…]better-po-editor/ |
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18:43 | magnuse | thanks cdickinson and tmcmahon |
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20:59 | Francesca | good morning |
20:59 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
21:00 | wnickc | gloomy wahanui |
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21:05 | cait | hi Francesca and wnickc :) |
21:05 | Francesca | hey cait :) |
21:06 | wnickc | hi cait |
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22:32 | wizzyrea | hi |
22:37 | eythian | hi |
22:47 | Francesca | hey wizzyrea, eythian |
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