IRC log for #koha, 2015-09-15

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00:03 dcook https://letsencrypt.org/2015/0[…]r-first-cert.html
00:14 pianohacker @letsencrypt++
00:14 huginn` pianohacker: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
00:17 dcook Encrypt all the things!
00:17 Also hey pianohacker :)
00:20 pianohacker hi dcook!
00:21 wizzyrea yay!
00:21 * dcook waves to wizzyrea too
00:23 pianohacker hi wizzyrea
00:36 dcook I somehow have an entry in borrower_modifications with a borrowernumber... what does this mean...
00:38 Huh... I think I may have got a md5 collision as well
00:39 pianohacker dcook: with or without?
00:39 dcook Actually, I have no idea what I'm talking about right now...lol
00:39 Wait no... yeah...
00:39 pianohacker: Somehow someone got an email with a md5 token which already existed in the database..
00:40 So when they tried to self-register... it actually used the pre-existing entry
00:40 Which was a bad entry and caused a database error
00:40 Both of which had borrowernumbers of 0... the entry with the borrowernumber seems unrelated?
00:40 pianohacker oh my.
00:41 dcook Let's see if I can reproduce it..
00:46 But that doesn't make sense either..
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01:00 pianohacker bye koha
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01:12 wizzyrea whooooah
01:12 dcook O_O
01:17 dojobo D:
01:37 dcook TFW you reply to a digest and forget to change the subject heading... *shameface*
01:44 wizzyrea SHAME
01:46 dcook :(
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02:22 dcook Oh snap, I was able to do it...
02:22 Well I haven't reproduced it, but I think I know why I'm getting duplicate md5 hashes in the self-registration
02:22 Wicked..
02:26 Hmm...
02:26 So the self-registration does "my $verification_token = md5_hex( \%borrower );"
02:27 Which doesn't make a hash using the borrower details
02:27 Rather, it makes a hash using the memory address of the hash...
02:27 Like "HASH(0x18bb568)"
02:29 wizzyrea I take it someone else has reported a md5 collision as well?
02:29 dcook Nope, but I'm seeing lots of duplicates in my message_queue
02:30 Different patrons getting the same token with different details..
02:30 wizzyrea that seems wrong.
02:30 dcook Agreed
02:30 Let's see what the frequency is..
02:31 Hmm 19 instances of the same token
02:31 Or rather..
02:32 Yes, one token is shared 19 times, another is shared 2 times, another is shared 2 times, and the rest are unique
02:33 Started in July and it's gone on through September
02:34 It still seems a bit far fetched but it's happened..
02:34 Trying to make a script to prove that it happens...
02:35 wizzyrea I'd have to really think through how often you'd end up with the same memory address
02:35 dcook It seems like it would be rare
02:36 wizzyrea that's what my intuition says but that is not grounded in facts.
02:36 dcook Time for me to learn a new thing :)
02:36 wizzyrea well and I guess it would really depend on the environment?
02:37 me
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02:37 depth
02:37 :)
02:37 dcook Yeah, I think it would really depend
02:44 Hmm, I can't reproduce it with a simple test..
02:44 2.5 million different tries and it came up with a different address each time
02:45 Ah... but it's moving sequentially..
02:46 Each is 24 decimal points higher than the last..
02:47 I don't think it would duplicate until I ran out of memory in that case..
02:48 Let's see if I can do this manually...
02:49 But the verification_token and borrowernumber are the a composite primary key which should be unique..
02:55 Whoa... what the..
02:56 It's not the memory address that's the problem...
02:56 It's the emails
02:56 In borrower_modifications, I have 3 different tokens
02:56 But in the message_queue, I only have 2 different tokens for 3 emails
02:56 * dcook does a little dance
02:57 dcook Ok, it was more of a rocking side to side in my chair...
03:08 liw much energetic. such vigor.
03:14 wizzyrea hehe liw
03:18 dcook Hehe
03:18 Energy and vigor is the only way I know how...
03:23 liw I got up at 4:30 to get to the airport for a work trip, so energy and vigor are absent. luckily I have a new laptop battery that should last me a few hours.
03:23 dcook liw: You're on IRC, so you must have some energy
03:24 liw don't count on that, I can irc in my sleep (or at least some of my irc logs look like that when I read them afterwards)
03:24 dcook hehe
03:25 I won't feel bad if you stop answering then ;)
03:25 liw :)
03:25 dcook Now what am I missing to turn on the self registration..
03:26 Ah right..
03:27 Booyah. Reproduced again.
03:27 Now give me your secrets logs..
03:30 Ah I think this has been fixed in master already..
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03:36 dcook Need to upgrade to a newer version of Koha..
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04:02 dcook Now to remember how to fix the EDS plugin..
04:19 Ah, sweet I already have a pull request for that
04:19 And all the other remaining issues are still issues
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04:25 Amit_Gupta hi all
05:23 * magnuse waves
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06:12 * magnuse waves again
06:14 * dcook waves to magnuse
06:14 * magnuse waves back
06:15 magnuse almost timt to go home?
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06:20 dcook Mmm 40 minutes?
06:20 Still lots of time to get through some emails
06:21 magnuse yay
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06:34 reiveune hello
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06:39 fridolin hie community, bonjour
06:39 magnuse bonjour fridolin
06:40 ...and reiveune
06:40 reiveune salut magnuse dcook rangi and everybody
06:48 magnuse ooh zebra merch http://www.zazzle.com/indexdata
06:49 Joubu yop yop
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07:00 alex_a bonjour
07:00 wahanui salut, alex_a
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07:07 magnuse not happy with the sorting of "norwegian wovels" - anyone know off the top of their heads which zbra config file to tweak?
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07:13 cait hm
07:14 there is a sort file
07:14 or 2 maybe even
07:14 this one maybe? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35d6540d0bfc9cdf4
07:14 Joubu @later tell pianohacker I'd say it depends :) What is the context? It it helps to understand the thought, several patches can be better
07:14 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:15 magnuse yeah, i found sort-string-utf.chr but changing it does not affect the results (after reindexing)
07:15 cait where are you looking at the results, the result list?
07:15 magnuse yup
07:15 but i probably need to restart zebra too?
07:16 nope, that did not fix it
07:17 restart + reindex = same result
07:18 looking at result lists both in opac and intranet, sorted by title both az and za
07:25 Joubu cait: bug 14821: so if the checkin has not been done, it shouldn't appear in the table, that's it?
07:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14821 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Don't show item in checked in list, when it wasn't checked in
07:26 Joubu in the code, this looks like an enh, not a bug...
07:36 cait Joubu: i'd think so yes - or at least display a note i the table 'not checked in'
07:36 but might be good to get some opinions - pianohacker said that their customes got confused by it, maybe we shoudl check with him
07:36 but could be an enh
07:38 Joubu: bug 10612 is weird
07:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Add ability to delete patrons with batch patron deletion tool
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07:39 cait I didn't use any of the criteria, just the patron list in my tests
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07:57 * magnuse facepalms
07:57 wahanui facepalms is a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity.
07:58 magnuse i was editing the right file in the wrong location - gitified install...
08:15 cait magnuse: oups
08:18 magnuse patch coming :-)
08:34 Joubu cait: sorry, didn't see your answers. I don't understand for 10612, I have just followed the plan I have put in the previous comment
08:34 and it works quite well
08:35 cait sorry phone, will check later
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08:47 drojf hi #koha
08:47 magnuse there, bug 14824 is a fun little signoff
08:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14824 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix sorting of Norwegian vowels
08:50 drojf that reminds me i should pick up the bug for the german language file one day :D
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09:19 * andreashm waves
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09:36 cait drojf: yes, you should
09:45 drojf cait: :P
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09:45 drojf later #koha
09:45 cait tsk
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10:04 drojf hello again
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10:30 jerwyn guy!
10:30 guys!
10:30 is someone here?
10:31 drojf!
10:32 * jerwyn slaps BobB around a bit with a large fishbot
10:34 Francesca why fishbot
10:34 jerwyn sorry
10:34 was new here
10:35 you there Francesca?
10:35 ~Francesca
10:35 Francesca hi
10:35 jerwyn nice
10:35 cdickinson do you need some help, jerwyn?
10:35 jerwyn someone is here
10:36 yes
10:36 have question..
10:36 glad there are people here
10:36 thought no one..
10:36 cdickinson lol, the european guys should be around by now
10:36 it's late her in NZ
10:36 here*
10:37 jerwyn oh
10:37 anyways
10:37 cdickinson what was it you needed help with?
10:37 jerwyn is there any problem with koha repository?
10:38 can't install either old and stable
10:38 cdickinson not as far as I know, but I haven't refreshed my Koha as a Service for a couple of days
10:38 hmm
10:39 cait lunch time:)
10:39 jerwyn hmmn
10:39 cdickinson I'll check on my end, jerwyn
10:39 jerwyn thanks cdickinson!
10:40 cdickinson I can update the package lists fine at the moment
10:40 jerwyn sorry for my naivety how do you make your name red to me?
10:40 cdickinson red?
10:40 wahanui red is conflict, green is pushed, and black is "nothing done"
10:40 cdickinson oh
10:40 jerwyn sorry im new here
10:40 cdickinson do you want any text from me to alert you?
10:41 jerwyn 2nd time so far
10:41 yes how do you make it red?
10:41 cdickinson jerwyn: in that case, I'll just make sure to say your name like this
10:41 well, just mentioning it at all works
10:41 jerwyn cdickinson: like this?
10:41 does it work?
10:42 cdickinson it alerts me that you talked to me, yes
10:42 alerting you of every single thing I post, though, not sure
10:42 jerwyn alright thanks for that
10:42 cdickinson depends on the IRC client
10:42 jerwyn okay going back
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10:43 cdickinson I'll just refresh one of my Koha instances and get it to install Koha again
10:45 jerwyn_ this is what
10:45 I often get
10:45 W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.o[…]table/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'debian.koha-community.org'
10:45 any idea?
10:45 wahanui rumour has it any idea is the  UseTransportCostMatrix  used anywhere
10:45 cdickinson oh
10:46 jerwyn_ when I run apt-get update
10:46 cdickinson that means you can't resolve the domain name for debian.koha-community.org
10:46 works for me here, that's weird
10:47 you might have a DNS problem on your connection
10:47 jerwyn_ hmmmmmmmn
10:48 this one is from VMware
10:48 installed debian wheezy 8.1
10:48 rather
10:48 7.8
10:48 cdickinson shouldn't really make a difference
10:49 jerwyn_ from Oracle VirtualBox
10:49 cdickinson what does 'nslookup debian.koha-community.org' say?
10:49 jerwyn_ what should I run? sorry
10:49 cdickinson nslookup debian.koha-community.org
10:49 wahanui debian.koha-community.org is 67.220.127.145
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10:49 jerwyn_ ;; Got bad packet: FORMERR 59 bytes 35 f2 81 00 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 06 64 65 62          5............deb 69 61 6e 0e 6b 6f 68 61 2d 63 6f 6d 6d 75 6e 69          ian.koha-communi 74 79 03 6f 72 67 00 00 01 00 01 c0 0c 00 00 01          ty.org.......... 00 00 01 0a b7 00 04 43 dc 7f 91                         .......C...
10:50 cdickinson wow, wahanuio
10:50 wahanui*
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10:51 Joubu ping 8.8.8.8 ?
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10:52 Joubu more /etc/resolv.conf
10:52 jerwyn_ Joubu: is that for me?
10:52 Joubu yes
10:53 jerwyn_ root@library:~# ping 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=44 time=136 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=2 ttl=44 time=138 ms
10:53 cait hi dro
10:53 Joubu and resolv.conf?
10:53 wahanui hmmm... resolv.conf is what the dhcp server dutifully gives everyone. should just work
10:53 cdickinson jerwyn_: the second command helps us learn what nameserver you're using
10:54 jerwyn_ more /etc/resolv.conf
10:54 root@library:~# more /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver 192.168.254.1
10:54 cdickinson oh, a local one
10:54 wahanui rumour has it a local one is probably installed through CPAN
10:54 Joubu usually not a good idea to edit it when managed by network-manager
10:55 cdickinson can you add, for instance, 8.8.8.8 to the connection through NetworkManager, jerwyn_?
10:55 Joubu and what's 192.168.254.1?
10:55 cdickinson Joubu: that would be provided by VMware's virtual network, presumably, apparently it's a VMware VM
10:56 so the host may have a bad DNS configuration
10:56 jerwyn_ network manager under virtualmachine
10:56 ?
10:56 cdickinson yep
10:56 give it a try
10:57 jerwyn_ I guess
10:57 ok I'll try
10:57 cdickinson not really fixing the underlying issue, but it would probably get it working for now
10:57 jerwyn_ not sure with 192.168.254.1
10:57 since my eth0 is 192.168.1.109
10:58 cdickinson jerwyn_: if it's a VM, the hypervisor would probably be using NAT
10:58 jerwyn_ I am using bridge
10:58 should I use NAT?
10:59 cdickinson bridge?
10:59 that means it shows up on your local network as if it was a real machine
10:59 jerwyn_ Bridge Adapter
11:00 cdickinson can you check the nameserver the host machine is configured with?
11:00 jerwyn_ how?
11:01 cdickinson what OS is your host machine running?
11:01 jerwyn_ Debian Jessie
11:01 cdickinson in that case, same procedure
11:01 jerwyn_ also have a problem on this
11:02 have read in the forum that there are some issues with jessie
11:02 cdickinson use Ubuntu here so I'm not really though
11:02 sure*
11:02 though that has its own share of issues >_>
11:03 jerwyn_ as I have read community recommend debian
11:04 cdickinson yeah
11:04 this isn't really a Debian issue though
11:05 your VM just isn't resolving the domain name which points to the package repository
11:05 jerwyn_ hmmn
11:06 maybe because Im using the latest version?
11:06 cdickinson nah, that's got nothing to do with it
11:06 jerwyn_ oh
11:06 cdickinson something is wrong with either your DNS configuration on your network, or the DNS server itself
11:08 jerwyn_ my current setup is a typical broaband and a linksys router
11:11 saw it on my iphone that my dns is 192.168.254.1
11:16 cdickinson 192.168.254.1 is probably the IP address of your router
11:17 log into your router and check what DNS servers are configured on it?
11:17 jerwyn_ 192.168.1.1 is the Ip of my router
11:17 cdickinson well what is 192.168.254.1 then?
11:18 jerwyn_ the DNS I guess
11:18 cdickinson ping 192.168.254.1 ?
11:18 jerwyn_ root@library:~# ping 192.168.254.1 PING 192.168.254.1 (192.168.254.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.254.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=63 time=4.07 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.254.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=63 time=3.39 ms
11:19 cdickinson nslookup debian.koha-community.org 192.168.254.1
11:19 jerwyn_ root@library:~# nslookup debian.koha-community.org 192.168.254.1 Server:192.168.254.1 Address:192.168.254.1#53  Non-authoritative answer: debian.koha-community.orgcanonical name = kohawiki.esilibrary.com. Name:kohawiki.esilibrary.com Address: 67.220.127.145
11:20 cdickinson looks like it's working now
11:20 try apt-get update again?
11:20 jerwyn_ all static DNS are set to 0.0.0.0
11:20 I'll check
11:20 same
11:20 Err http://debian.koha-community.org oldstable Release.gpg                        Could not resolve 'debian.koha-community.org'
11:21 cdickinson ???
11:22 jerwyn_ same error i got
11:22 cdickinson there must be something wrong with the configuration of the VM or something, then
11:22 jerwyn_ what do you use to get connection?
11:22 NAT?
11:22 wahanui NAT is fine, but you need to complement it with a host only.
11:23 cdickinson cat /etc/nsswitch.conf
11:23 jerwyn_ root@library:~# cat /etc/nsswitch.conf # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. # If you have the `glibc-doc-reference' and `info' packages installed, try: # `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file.  passwd:         compat group:          compat shadow:         compat  hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 networks:       files  protocols:      db files servi
11:24 cdickinson on the hosts line
11:24 in between mdns4_minimal and [NOTFOUND=return]
11:24 add 'dns'
11:24 try again after
11:24 jerwyn_ what should I do?
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11:25 cdickinson jerwyn_: change the hosts like so it looks like this
11:25 wahanui cdickinson: that doesn't look right
11:25 cdickinson jerwyn: hosts: files mdns4_minimal dns [NOTFOUND=return]
11:25 jerwyn_ the host
11:25 wahanui the host is a technical institute.
11:26 cdickinson by the way, ignore wahanui, it is a chat bot
11:26 jerwyn_ copy..
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11:32 magnuse after running gather_print_notices.pl the resulting html shows non-ascii chars as diamonds-with-questionmark: "F�rfattare" - anyone else seen that?
11:32 cait hm not yet, but i'd file a bug
11:32 hm thought we had fixed that once... but.
11:33 cdickinson jerwyn_: how did it go?
11:34 I guess not
11:34 @wunder lower hutt
11:35 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 12.2°C (11:30 PM NZST on September 15, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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11:38 magnuse cait: yeah, i think it is fixed in master by bug 11603
11:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export
11:38 magnuse http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]39037&action=diff is "fix encoding issues"
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11:44 jerwyn cdickinson: so far what I did is added a dns to my routher 8.8.8.8 reboot the vm and changed Bridge Adapted to NAT
11:45 and still same error
11:45 cdickinson can you access other sites on the VM?
11:45 as in, anything?
11:45 jerwyn_ yes
11:45 I can
11:45 cdickinson hmmm
11:46 jerwyn / jerwyn_: did you make the change to /etc/nsswitch.conf like I suggested before?
11:46 jerwyn how about my source
11:47 jerwyn_ these are my sources
11:47 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main  deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
11:47 cdickinson yeah, that should be fine
11:47 jerwyn_ well I guess it has no bearing
11:47 cdickinson can you post your /etc/nsswitch.conf again?
11:48 jerwyn still
11:48 the host has problem
11:48 cdickinson
11:48 wahanui I run windows. Don't judge me.
11:48 jerwyn_ passwd:         compat group:          compat shadow:         compat  hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 networks:       files  protocols:      db files services:       db files ethers:         db files rpc:            db files
11:48 cdickinson ohhh
11:48 get rid of [NOTFOUND=return]
11:49 try it after that
11:49 jerwyn_ what should I replace?
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11:49 cdickinson jerwyn_: <cdickinson> get rid of [NOTFOUND=return]
11:49 jerwyn_ I just leave the file
11:50 same error with the update
11:51 cdickinson jerwyn_: did you actually get rid of [NOT FOUND=return] from /etc/nsswitch.conf like I said?
11:51 jerwyn_ yeap
11:51 cdickinson hmmm
11:51 jerwyn_ its now
11:51 passwd:         compat group:          compat shadow:         compat  hosts:          files networks:       files  protocols:      db files services:       db files ethers:         db files rpc:            db files  netgroup:       nis\
11:51 cdickinson jerwyn_: it's supposed to be like this
11:51 hosts: files mdns4_minimal dns mdns4
11:52 jerwyn_ copy2
11:52 still get
11:52 W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.o[…]table/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'debian.koha-community.org'
11:53 with this
11:53 passwd:         compat group:          compat shadow:         compat  hosts:          files mdns4_minimal dns mdns4 networks:       files  protocols:      db files services:       db files ethers:         db files rpc:            db files
11:53 cdickinson okay
11:53 nslookup debian.koha-community.org
11:53 wahanui debian.koha-community.org is 67.220.127.145
11:54 jerwyn_ root@library:~# nslookup debian.koha-community.org ;; Got bad packet: FORMERR 59 bytes a4 11 81 00 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 06 64 65 62          .............deb 69 61 6e 0e 6b 6f 68 61 2d 63 6f 6d 6d 75 6e 69          ian.koha-communi 74 79 03 6f 72 67 00 00 01 00 01 c0 0c 00 00 01          ty.org.......... 00 00 00 fa d2 00 04 43 dc 7f 91                         .......C...
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11:54 cdickinson jerwyn_: that's not normal
11:55 but when we contact the DNS server directly for that address, it works fine
11:55 jerwyn_ hmmn
11:55 cdickinson so I'm not really sure
11:55 what does /etc/resolv.conf look like right now?\
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11:55 jerwyn_ # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver 192.168.254.1
11:56 cdickinson jerwyn_: manually add 8.8.8.8 to the top of that file, and then try again
11:56 jerwyn_ i'll comment out the 192?
11:56 cdickinson you can if you want, but it shouldn't matter
11:57 jerwyn_ wait
11:57 looks like working
11:57 cdickinson something is weird with that local DNS server that you have there
11:57 nslookup debian.koha-community.org 192.168.1.1
11:57 give that a try?
11:58 jerwyn_ cdickinson: your the best!
11:58 its now working
11:59 cdickinson it's not fully fixed, your network has a configuration issue somewhere, but overriding the DNS server like that can help in the mean time, yeah
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12:00 jerwyn_ yeah its just fine brother
12:00 I'll just be using this for a offline presentation
12:00 cdickinson ah, cool
12:01 jerwyn_ haha youre the best dude
12:01 cdickinson no problem, happy to help
12:01 jerwyn_ your from new zld right?
12:01 cdickinson yep, that's right
12:01 jerwyn_ from what library?
12:01 are you a librarian?
12:01 cdickinson no
12:02 I actually am at Catalyst, one of the companies working on Koha
12:02 jerwyn_ ohh I see
12:02 heard a lot of stuff with your team
12:03 is Chris Cormack is from your team?
12:03 cdickinson I haven't been working with them for long, and I don't work on Koha itself as such, but the others do a lot of important work around here, yeah
12:03 yep, that's him
12:03 he is the Technical Lead for the Koha team here
12:04 jerwyn_ oh
12:05 by profession you are IT?
12:05 cdickinson yeah
12:05 I'm actually still a student, finishing off my last year in Network Engineering
12:05 jerwyn_ good to hear that
12:06 really admire people in your country
12:06 even though young people can do stuff as a professional
12:06 heard even teen agers
12:06 thats we lack here in the Philippines
12:07 cdickinson in IT in general, it doesn't matter too much about your age or experience
12:07 knowledge is important, but teamwork and will/ability to learn are more important factors
12:07 jerwyn_ there should be a someone who can mentor
12:08 yeah collaboration works best..
12:08 cdickinson I have supervisors who watch over me doing my work on Koha
12:08 and I do co-ordinate with others as much as I can
12:09 jerwyn_ we dont have that kind of set-up here
12:11 cdickinson really depends on the company you end up at, even here in NZ
12:12 I'm really lucky here at Catalyst
12:13 alright, it's time for me to hit the hay
12:13 00:13 here now
12:13 nice to chat with you, jerwyn_, good luck with that presentation
12:14 jerwyn_ alright cdickinson: thanks a lot!
12:16 cdickinson no problem
12:16 good night jerwyn_, #koha
12:21 drojf @seen marcelr
12:21 huginn` drojf: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 43 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <marcelr> there is a report already for the duplicate code
12:22 drojf @later tell marcelr for 14321, "Verify that you can download the file in OPAC without being logged in", how would i do that? where should i try to download it?
12:22 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded.
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12:34 drojf @later tell marcelr nevermind, i found it in a later step
12:34 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded.
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12:59 * magnuse cheers bug 8753 on
12:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
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13:22 francharb Hello #koha
13:23 Has anyone ever used the print transport type for overdue notices?
13:23 I can't trigger it
13:24 cait have you checked the checkbox in the notice triggers for print?
13:24 francharb yes
13:24 cait hm
13:24 it works ok for a library we have... 3.18.something
13:25 francharb If my patron doesnt have an email, should it work like the email transport type?
13:25 cait not quite
13:25 an email with the text is sent to the library
13:25 francharb I can't print it in the html file?
13:26 cait i think it also creates a print entry
13:26 and you shoudl be able to print all print entries with the job
13:26 have you checked your database?
13:26 francharb I will
13:26 cait i just did: select * from message_queue where message_transport_type = "print"
13:27 francharb thing is, I don't know what I should look for and how it should behave
13:27 cait i can see some in this library - the third notice they always sent in print only and soem where I think there is no patron email
13:27 oh
13:27 francharb I like that option
13:27 cait and you don't want the overdue_ntocies script
13:27 look at gather_print_notices
13:28 so first check there are print notices queued
13:28 francharb Ok and then I should use the gater_print_notices
13:28 makes sense
13:28 That's the missing part!
13:28 Thanks cait!!
13:29 cait :)
13:29 bug 11678 is not in yet, but might be interesting in this context
13:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Gather print notices: send files by email
13:31 francharb Thanks cait! what I need works. I'll have a look at this bug.
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13:31 cait have to go, bye all
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13:42 magnuse francharb: see also bug 11603, which is in master
13:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export
13:42 francharb thanks magnuse
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14:56 tcohen hi #koha
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14:57 vfernandes hi :)
14:58 one quick question: it's possible to have different from emails when processing the message queue?
14:59 is library X koha uses the FROM email Y, if library Z then FROM email W
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15:09 tcohen vfernandes: each branch has its own email address
15:10 vfernandes but that email is used to process the message queue?
15:14 Joubu vfernandes: it depends I'd say
15:14 for instance, for overdue_notices, the branch's email should be used
15:15 but fallback on the pref adminemailaddressorsomething
15:15 KohaAdminEmailAddress
15:15 wahanui KohaAdminEmailAddress is worth a look
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15:48 nitz0 hi...
16:49 * Joubu screams loudly to wake up #koha
17:02 will try again tomorrow...
17:02 pianohacker augh!
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17:26 reiveune bye
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17:40 tcohen hi
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20:57 Francesca morning
21:01 tcohen hi Francesca
21:01 Francesca hey tcohen
21:01 sup
21:02 * cait waves
21:03 wnickc hi cait
21:03 tcohen hi cait! wnickc!
21:03 cait hi tcohen :)
21:03 i was starting to get a little worried :)
21:04 tcohen it's rosh hashanah
21:04 we have a two-day national holiday for jewish people
21:05 cait oh
21:05 ok, so i  iwll stop to be worried
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21:15 pianohacker wahanui: forget pianohacker
21:15 wahanui pianohacker: I forgot pianohacker
21:15 pianohacker wahanui: pianohacker is <reply>regexes are AWESOME
21:15 wahanui OK, pianohacker.
21:19 pianohacker pianohacker?
21:19 wahanui regexes are AWESOME
21:19 pianohacker hell yeah wahanui
21:19 high five
21:19 cait pianohacker: i had already started on the wrong branch grump ;)
21:19 i need to check again now
21:20 pianohacker hehe
21:46 * Francesca waves at cait and piano hacker
21:50 Francesca @roulette
21:50 huginn` Francesca: *click*
21:50 Francesca @roulette spin
21:50 huginn` *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
21:51 pianohacker hi Fran cesca
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22:12 tcohen eythian: ?
22:12 around?
22:12 wizzyrea nope
22:12 tomorrow maybe
22:12 tcohen do u know when he'll be a
22:12 ah, that
22:12 wahanui well, ah, that is just to say that everything should be on one line
22:12 tcohen thanks wizzyrea
22:13 wizzyrea :)
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22:26 tmcmahon Does anyone here have any idea what would cause the keyboard shortcuts to switch to the wrong tabs?  I've tried it with stable and oldstable packages on Debian 8.
22:26 tcohen try to delete the cached content on the browser
22:27 tmcmahon I tried that before and it didn't help.  Just tried it again.  Still the same.
22:28 cait do you mean the circulation shortcuts for koha?
22:28 wizzyrea did something change recently for you?
22:29 cait there was something on the mailing list about that - but i need to leave
22:29 tmcmahon I've been running on an older tarball install and have bee trying to migrate to a new server using debian packages.
22:29 cait bye all
22:30 tmcmahon Yes.  The shortcuts used in circulation.
22:30 wizzyrea and you are sure you have cleared the cache. completely.
22:30 did you try it in a private window?
22:31 tcohen Ctrl+Shift+r
22:31 wizzyrea private window lives completely outside existing caches, so when I'm unsure (or don't want to delete my caches aggressively) I start there.
22:32 tmcmahon I just tried private windows in Firefox and Chromium.  No change.
22:32 I also did Ctrl+Shift+r
22:33 wizzyrea http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#keyboardshort
22:34 that's from this thread:
22:34 https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pub[…]-July/043373.html
22:35 tmcmahon That's how it worked in my old version.
22:35 wizzyrea and what does it do now? just go to the wrong ones?
22:35 or something else
22:35 tmcmahon Yes.  Wrong tabs.
22:37 From mainpage.pl:  Alt+u=Search the catalog, Alt+r-Check out and Alt+q=Search patrons
22:38 wizzyrea tcohen: I just got one of these from updatedatabase, maybe there's a typo in one of the db updates: [Wed Sep 16 10:37:57 2015] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Subquery returns more than 1 row at /home/liz/koha-src/koha/install​er/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 10862.
22:38 I haven't looked into it any further than that
22:40 tmcmahon: it works for me in master
22:40 tmcmahon Alt+q=Check in from circulation-home.pl
22:40 wizzyrea what version are you running - all 3 numbers please
22:41 tmcmahon I tried it on some demo pages on the internet and they work fine.
22:41 3.20.01.000
22:41 wnickc I can confirm same behavior 3.18.6 Firefox+Windows 7
22:41 tmcmahon At least that's the one I'm working on now.  I've tried oldstable too.  3.18.something
22:43 The only thing in the database that I know would mess with javascript is intranetuserjs and I cleared that.
22:45 wizzyrea what do you have in your staff-global.js, you should be able to just search for shortcut to see the code around it
22:45 I'm looking at it, looks ok to me.
22:45 so it seems odd that you'd have a problem on the packages, because the code is the same.
22:46 tmcmahon I've been looking at it too.  It looks ok to me.  There should be no modified packages.
22:46 or modified files.
22:52 wnickc: You have the same problem?
22:52 wizzyrea hm don't know, almost has to be local
22:53 there *is* a bug in the cataloguing screen
22:53 where it works weirdly
22:53 tmcmahon I'm sure it is local or there would be more people complaining.  Unless nobody is using shortcuts.  I'm the only one here who does.
22:53 wizzyrea :)
22:54 have you hidden anything with CSS?
22:54 in the search bar area
22:54 theoretically it shouldn't make a difference
22:54 or do you have any plugins
22:55 that might change things
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22:55 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
22:55 wizzyrea or maybe do you have news items with malformed html
22:55 or malformed html in any of the user configurable areas of the intranet
22:56 hi mtompset
22:56 wnickc I don't use them really, but it seemed to be matching what you said tmcmahon
22:56 tmcmahon No.  It's just a stock install so far.  No plugins.  I checked to see if any css migrated in IntranetUserCSS.  No news items.
22:56 wnickc alt+q on amin circ is check-in
22:56 main circ
22:56 wizzyrea anything in intranetnav?
22:57 tmcmahon Intranetnav is empty.
22:57 wizzyrea or intranetmainuserblock
22:57 tmcmahon Also empty.
22:58 wizzyrea hm.
22:58 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea. :)
22:58 wizzyrea alt-q always gives me "search the catalogue"
22:58 oh, heh no it doesn't
22:58 it does on circ home
22:58 and on the home page
22:58 but not on any searches where there are additional tabs.
22:58 i.e. members.
22:59 /patrons
22:59 and cataloguing
22:59 wahanui somebody said cataloguing was always compelling
23:00 wizzyrea on the serials search one, it actually takes you to returns.
23:00 which seems wrong.
23:00 so the shortcuts are just very buggy
23:01 basically, if the tabs below the search aren't checkout, check in, and search the catalogue
23:01 you can expect it to get weird.
23:03 tmcmahon From the looks of the code it shouldn't get weird with extra tabs.  At least to me, but I don't know much about javascript.
23:04 wizzyrea actual behaviour would indicate differently :)
23:05 I'd have to poke at it - what I've just noticed isn't what you noticed though?
23:05 or is it?
23:06 tmcmahon It seems like my problem is a bit more than that.  None of it works for me.
23:13 wizzyrea you don't have a non-US keyboard or a different keyboard layout? that's really grasping at straws, I recognise.
23:14 tmcmahon Nope.  Regular US keyboard.
23:17 wizzyrea add on's in your browser?
23:20 tmcmahon I don't have any on the Windows machine I tried it from.  None on Chromium on this computer, but there are a few on Firefox on this computer.
23:20 wizzyrea yeah probably not that then
23:20 not sure, mystery problem :)
23:21 tmcmahon I'll see if I can get the time to do a fresh install tomorrow without importing our database and go from there.
23:21 Then I'll probably come back for more.
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23:30 wizzyrea yeah, with a fresh database would be instructive. good luck :)
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