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| 05:22 | andreashm | morning |
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| 05:44 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:30 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:30 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 07, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:30 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:30 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on September 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:39 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:35 | Francesca | @wunder wlg |
| 07:35 | huginn | Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on September 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:07 | magnuse | ncip! ncip! ncip! |
| 08:07 | kivilahtio_ | @later tell tcohen I thought I had slides for both approaches? I would like to receive Joubu's feedback about it |
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| 08:18 | kivilahtio_ | @later tell tcohen But I really tried to see the thing from another point of view. |
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| 09:53 | cait | @later tell drojf ping |
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| 11:09 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 11:21 | kivilahtio_ | hi drojf! |
| 11:24 | magnuse | wow, quiet dat |
| 11:24 | *day | |
| 11:24 | cait | can't say so |
| 11:28 | magnuse | in here, i meant |
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| 11:33 | * andreashm | waves |
| 11:33 | * cait | waves |
| 11:33 | * andreashm | is concerned about how Koha handles holds |
| 11:34 | andreashm | is it correct that all items on a bib will be placed on hold, no matter branch or item type? |
| 11:34 | (for "next available copy") | |
| 11:35 | cait | hm not quite |
| 11:35 | the hold is entered without an item number | |
| 11:35 | when an item is returned, koha checks the circulation conditions - if the hold can fill the hold | |
| 11:35 | so if the rules there forbid it, the return won't trigger the hold | |
| 11:35 | the hold will exist until an item is returned or checked in that CAN fill it | |
| 11:36 | does that make sense? | |
| 11:36 | andreashm | um, yes. |
| 11:36 | cait | so for example if the itemtype is not holdable - it won't ever trigger a hold |
| 11:36 | if you don't alloow holds on damaged... | |
| 11:36 | I'd do some experimenting with the conditions between branches | |
| 11:36 | andreashm | yes, but if one item type is for 7 day loan and one is 30 it would be good if they weren't connected, but they are. |
| 11:37 | cait | hm |
| 11:37 | how would you expect the 'next available' to work? | |
| 11:37 | andreashm | and I haven't found a way to limit holds to a branch without it being for a patron of a specific branch. but that causes a lot of other problems |
| 11:38 | cait | have you takean a lot at the branch transfer limits? |
| 11:38 | a look | |
| 11:38 | andreashm | I would want "next available" to be limited per branch. (or preferably location, but that I know isn't in Koha) |
| 11:38 | a little, not much | |
| 11:38 | cait | hm khall_away would be good for holds quesions |
| 11:38 | we ony have one library that send items between branches | |
| 11:39 | can you phrase an example how you would want it to work? | |
| 11:39 | andreashm | A connected problem is that if an item is loaned out on one branch, and a hold is placed, Koha will block checkouts on the same book on another branch. |
| 11:39 | cait | hm it shouldn't |
| 11:40 | andreashm | I know we can override, but its clunky (and might cause problems with the self checkout machines I imagine) |
| 11:40 | 'it does | |
| 11:40 | cait | let me think :) |
| 11:40 | andreashm | at least the way we have it set up now |
| 11:40 | =) | |
| 11:40 | cait | are you sending items between branches? |
| 11:40 | andreashm | we could be doing it totally wrong though. =) |
| 11:41 | We would like books to be sent back or returned to another library. but not sent out for holds. | |
| 11:41 | cait | maybe try AlowItemsOnHoldCheckout |
| 11:41 | andreashm | so pick-up library should always be the same as the issuing branch |
| 11:42 | I'll look at that one | |
| 11:42 | cait | it coudl remove the warning |
| 11:42 | it says if the user has it in his hand.. that's prio | |
| 11:42 | so shoudl allow checkout | |
| 11:43 | also OPACAllowUserToChooseBranch | |
| 11:43 | so the users can't choose where to pick up an item from | |
| 11:43 | i am not sure what it preselects - but worth a try | |
| 11:44 | it can only be patron homebranch or item homebranch... and maybe would be easy to enh if necessary | |
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| 11:45 | andreashm_ | damn, got logged out. |
| 11:45 | and now Annabelle is screaming at me to put the computer down. (at home today) | |
| 11:45 | guess I'll be back later. =) | |
| 11:45 | byr | |
| 11:45 | bye | |
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| 12:19 | kivilahtio_ | khall_away: Can you skim Bug 14698? See the help of atomicupdate.pl -script? max 10 minutes |
| 12:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , AtomicUpdater - Keeps track of which updates have been applied to a database |
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| 12:47 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:48 | hi magnuse | |
| 12:59 | magnuse | kia ora tcohen |
| 12:59 | tcohen | magnuse: would you accept a pull request? :-D |
| 12:59 | maybe we can start by creating a branch | |
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| 13:06 | magnuse | tcohen: sure |
| 13:06 | * cait | waves |
| 13:06 | tcohen | magnuse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpGbzYlnz7c |
| 13:09 | magnuse: i will squash a couple commits and send the pull request. thanks! | |
| 13:13 | magnuse | yo! pull request paradise! |
| 13:24 | tcohen | magnuse: ready :-D |
| 13:27 | magnuse | got it |
| 13:27 | i'll let it sit a day or two to see if anyone has any comments | |
| 13:28 | * magnuse | gotta run |
| 13:30 | tcohen | bye magnuse ! |
| 13:41 | Joubu: could you review my followup for 14639? I tried to make you happy :-D | |
| 13:42 | xarragon | I need to generate a complete tree from a database table.. I could do it all serverside or dump the list and have JS build it. It is for Intranet only, CMS stuff. If done serverside, should I throw it in a 'Widget' class that renders itself as HTML which I drop into a template.. Or whjat is the recommended approach? |
| 13:47 | cait | sorry, you lost me |
| 13:47 | hm a tree that can be collapsed/uncollapsed? | |
| 13:47 | if yes... i think we might already use a jquery library for that in the authorities module | |
| 13:48 | xarragon | Well, it is just that I looked inside the Koha subdir and only found some classes for managing items etc, nothing that generates html output.. |
| 13:48 | So I am not sure if that sort of stuff goes in there.. | |
| 13:48 | cait: Ok, will look | |
| 13:49 | cait | i think generating html should happen in templates |
| 13:49 | if possible... but as i don't get the use case i might talk nosnsense :) | |
| 13:50 | xarragon | Hmm, well, I will look at the example of the authorities that you mentioned. I just stopped because I was realizing I was probbaly doing the wrong thing. |
| 13:51 | cait | xarragon: there is a pref related to that... might be easier to spot the code that way |
| 13:51 | AuthDisplayHierarchy | |
| 13:51 | wahanui | i guess AuthDisplayHierarchy is on |
| 13:53 | xarragon | Was off on my system, but it is very bare |
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| 13:58 | xarragon | Seems like we have treeview: ./jquery/plugins/jquery.treeview.pack.js |
| 13:58 | So I can probably wrangle that to do what i need instead of building a complex nested list structure myself | |
| 13:58 | Or rather.. The list I might make, but not the framework for editing the contents. | |
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| 14:00 | xarragon | And jstree: ./jquery/plugins/jquery.jstree.js |
| 14:03 | cait: Yup you were right; jstree is used in the authorities detail view. Thanlks | |
| 14:21 | tcohen | oops |
| 14:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14098: Implement the copy_and_replace action for MTT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b9a8eff6f24555b55> / Bug 14098: Add copy_and_replace action to MMT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7933ee0fac378dcb6> / Bug 14098: Remove unedeed subroutines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=commitdiff;h=f37 |
| 14:32 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14098: DBRev 3.21.00.024 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c342413f67ca7c5a8> | |
| 14:54 | cait | xarragon: glad i coudl be somewhat helpful in my confusion :) |
| 15:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12525: Prevent adding several patron lists with the same name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ae754d66c7e144d81> / Bug 12525: FIX patron lists dropdown is empty <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13ff7a7d7a432bcd5> / Bug 14343: Remove the DT pagination <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
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| 15:09 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:09 | andreashm | hey |
| 15:10 | * andreashm | waves |
| 15:14 | * cait | waves again |
| 15:14 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14760: Disabled courses display in the course reserves list for items <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]af6f38102206863ae> / Bug 14470: Do not allow renew for on-site checkouts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]70d31342f796edc47> / Bug 14639: (QA followup) make schema mandatory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
| 15:14 | cait | hm no drojf |
| 15:16 | tcohen | @seen drojf |
| 15:16 | huginn | tcohen: drojf was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <drojf> hi #koha |
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| 15:29 | andreashm | cait: humm, AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout doesn't seem to do anything. still get a checkout message. weird. |
| 15:29 | ah, got to go again (dinner) bbl. | |
| 15:32 | cait | hmm |
| 15:32 | maybe it always warns... but lets you check out on the self check | |
| 15:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14683: [QA Follow-up] Similar change for staff <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7ca3b7a556d246ed5> / Bug 14683: [QA Follow-up] Mixup between mobile and smsalertnumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0812e3a6789fabced> / Bug 14683: Unable to clear SMS number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co |
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| 16:50 | tcohen | @later tell eythian could you please provide one more Debian 8 box? The goal is to run MariaDB on it |
| 16:50 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:52 | tcohen | @seen Joubu |
| 16:52 | huginn | tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 1 hour, 43 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Joubu> Have to run, I will be afk for a week! bye #koha |
| 16:52 | tcohen | a week! |
| 17:15 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14472: DBRev 3.21.00.026 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35d6540d0bfc9cdf4> / Bug 12357: DBRev 3.21.00.025 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb889bee1b958b358> / Bug 12357: Following whitespace failures on koha qa test tools. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2df238217efc06182 |
| 17:16 | tcohen | @later tell marcelr your patch for GetReserveFee broke the tests introduced by bug 14464. Please fix them ASAP |
| 17:16 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:20 | tcohen | khall_away: why are spaces bad for passwordS? |
| 17:32 | magnuse | tcohen: you had some preference for how we submit patches |
| 17:32 | with separate patches for different things | |
| 17:33 | is that written down somewhere? | |
| 17:33 | tcohen | usually, but not mandatory, it is not written |
| 17:34 | we always say "separate patches for different things" is more readable | |
| 17:35 | the only reference i can think of, is the section that says 'if you want to refactor something (tidy), first fix the problem, then provide a followup for the tidy) | |
| 17:35 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#Refactoring_code | |
| 17:35 | why? | |
| 17:37 | @later tell cait http://snag.gy/0AV8v.jpg | |
| 17:37 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:37 | magnuse | thanks, tcohen |
| 17:37 | one of Viktor's hackers had a question about how to submit a large piece of work, in another channel | |
| 17:38 | tcohen | i tried to follow that on my Koha patches, and kohadevbox patches too |
| 17:38 | it is a good common practice | |
| 17:38 | magnuse | i seem to remember somethin about database-changes in a separate patch or something like that? |
| 17:38 | tcohen | in a community like this, with many people involved... it is important to make things easy for others to test your patches... |
| 17:38 | magnuse: true | |
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| 18:29 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 19:31 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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| 20:51 | cait | so quiet |
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| 20:54 | cait | magnuse: around? |
| 21:11 | bag | hola |
| 21:19 | cait | hola |
| 22:00 | ashimema | mwah |
| 22:02 | cait | go to bed? |
| 22:11 | ashimema | can't untill I have this server fixed :'( |
| 22:11 | cait | oh |
| 22:12 | so fix the server! | |
| 22:13 | ashimema | problem is.. |
| 22:13 | I only have a symptop.. every cause I can think of isn't the cause | |
| 22:13 | I'm stuck | |
| 22:13 | and tired :( | |
| 22:13 | cait | what's the symptom? *volunteers as rubber duck* |
| 22:14 | ashimema | 403 for everything |
| 22:14 | on apache 2.4 | |
| 22:14 | only koha seems affected though :( | |
| 22:15 | cait | and it started suddenly? |
| 22:15 | ashimema | somebody messed with the apt/sources.list file.. |
| 22:16 | change one line to stable instead of wheezy.. so the system got in a right state at unattended upgrade time. | |
| 22:16 | wahanui | ashimema: that doesn't look right |
| 22:17 | cait | hm was wheezy still the old apache? |
| 22:17 | before it got messed up? | |
| 22:17 | ashimema | no idea |
| 22:17 | his server is now at jessie | |
| 22:17 | not sure how many people out there are running koha on jessie | |
| 22:17 | cait | did you make sure the apache configu files got updated correctly? |
| 22:17 | ashimema | in what sense? |
| 22:18 | I've been trying to work out what's wring with them all evening. | |
| 22:18 | rangi | jessie should be fine |
| 22:18 | cait | if it was old apache before... that could explain maybe? |
| 22:18 | ashimema | it was indeed old apache |
| 22:18 | rangi | but the rules for access did change between apaches |
| 22:19 | ashimema | yeah.. |
| 22:19 | is that all that's changed though? | |
| 22:19 | rangi | thats probably the cause of the 403 |
| 22:19 | cait | can you get the packages to update them correctly? |
| 22:20 | my notes predate the correct fix in Koha... so... | |
| 22:20 | rangi | that permission denied problem looks like exactly the fix |
| 22:21 | ashimema | ooh.. |
| 22:22 | rangi | yeah that first one is enough |
| 22:23 | cait | i gave no guarantees :) |
| 22:23 | rangi | Require all granted |
| 22:23 | is what you need ashimema | |
| 22:23 | ashimema | ah.. thanks guys.. |
| 22:23 | that did the trick.. | |
| 22:23 | * cait | is jsut the rubber duck :) |
| 22:23 | ashimema | I have updated the existing blocks.. |
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| 22:24 | ashimema | but I hadn't added that new one.. |
| 22:24 | did they go and change the bloody defaults behind my back to 'block everything' | |
| 22:24 | seems so | |
| 22:24 | rangi | its a good default |
| 22:24 | but a warning on upgrade would help | |
| 22:25 | ashimema | yeah.. it's a great default.. |
| 22:25 | just one I hadn't come accross yet.. | |
| 22:25 | thanks guys | |
| 22:26 | rangi | i run a koha on debian unstable .. helps to bump into these things before they get into stable |
| 22:27 | i probably should try to run early copies of ubuntu releases too | |
| 22:28 | cait | rangi: let him go back to bed :) |
| 22:28 | bag | @wunder 97215 |
| 22:28 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 20.4°C (3:27 PM PDT on September 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:28 | bag | amazing day here |
| 22:29 | Hey rangi - my pats are playing your steelers thursday night ;) we should bet a pint on the game ;) | |
| 22:30 | rangi | heh you're on |
| 22:33 | ashimema | rangi.. I've got a koha on jessie already.. didn't need that particular trick though.. |
| 22:33 | oh well | |
| 22:34 | I'm off.. have a good day peeps | |
| 22:35 | rangi | cya ashimema |
| 22:38 | bag | later ashimema |
| 22:39 | ok I’m back to cleaning the garage :) once Ginny is awake we’re going for a hike w00t w00t | |
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