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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | mtj | ie: regex the instance name |
| 00:03 | wizzyrea | right |
| 00:06 | I think I'd want to try this out before doing it for realsies, but this is good advice. A tool to generate just these files would be a nice thing to have. | |
| 00:07 | mtj | yeah, its pretty doable |
| 00:08 | the assumption with my method is that the zebra files were not modified/tweaked after install | |
| 00:10 | but, you can use 'git diff' to spot that | |
| 00:12 | $ cd /etc/koha/sites/koha1 ; find . -type f | xargs perl -pi -e 's/koha2/koha1/g' | |
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| 00:13 | mtj | ..has worked ok for me, before :0) |
| 00:21 | * wizzyrea | files that away |
| 00:21 | wizzyrea | for 8-ish hours from now |
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| 01:08 | mtj | cool wiz |
| 01:09 | i also was struggling to parse that DOM wiki page, with 1am upgrade brain | |
| 01:19 | dcook | Huh... just realized the statistics table doesn't have a primary key |
| 01:20 | I suppose we treat datetime like one although it's not really.. | |
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| 01:24 | mtj | dcook: hmm, it should really have one, huh.. |
| 01:24 | dcook | mtj: probably :) |
| 01:24 | mtj | have people spotted this.. -> http://it.slashdot.org/story/1[…]uns-out-of-memory |
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| 01:32 | tcohen | hi there |
| 01:32 | wahanui | que tal, tcohen |
| 01:33 | wizzyrea | http://tech.slashdot.org/story[…]-years?sdsrc=prev aw |
| 01:33 | hi tcohen | |
| 01:33 | tcohen | hi wizzyrea |
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| 03:55 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 03:55 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on August 25, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:55 | eythian | http://www.theonion.com/articl[…]t-collapses-51163 |
| 03:56 | wizzyrea | oh onion |
| 04:09 | eythian | https://apps.getpebble.com/en_[…]3f60819963900000e <-- rangi, wizzyrea - this is quite good, if you're into that sort of thing. |
| 04:11 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
| 04:15 | how do I find the Koha watch face? | |
| 04:15 | rangi | search for koha in the get watchfaces |
| 04:16 | wizzyrea | hrm |
| 04:16 | mine doesn't find it :/ | |
| 04:16 | but | |
| 04:16 | that's me, not you | |
| 04:17 | yay I found it | |
| 04:17 | rangi | my next thing is to make it configurable |
| 04:17 | so you can choose the branch you want to watch | |
| 04:18 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 04:19 | that would be neat. I assume the code is somewhere in a repo? | |
| 04:19 | rangi | yep |
| 04:19 | wizzyrea | nvm I found it |
| 04:19 | rangi | the online sdk |
| 04:19 | lets you push directly | |
| 04:19 | eythian | really what you want is a timeline thingamie |
| 04:20 | so it adds a thing when the status changes or something happens | |
| 04:20 | rangi | yep |
| 04:20 | its halfway done | |
| 04:20 | wizzyrea | or bzzzts |
| 04:20 | rangi | https://cloudpebble.net/ide/ is what I use for dev |
| 04:21 | cdickinson | wow, configuring mod_fcgid for PHP is not easy |
| 04:21 | rangi | ive got the api keys for timeline, just need to write the code to add things to it |
| 04:21 | it's all really well documented, so its just finding the time | |
| 04:22 | you could totally do a timeline for koha itself, so that you get pins when your reserves are ready to pick up etc | |
| 04:22 | eythian | cdickinson: what are you doing with mod_fcgid? |
| 04:23 | cdickinson | eythian: want to run a REST API through Apache |
| 04:23 | eythian | ah right |
| 04:23 | cdickinson | server side JavaScript doesn't seem to be a thing, so PHP it is |
| 04:23 | outside of node, that is | |
| 04:23 | eythian | I bet there's a mod_node or something terribad |
| 04:24 | cdickinson | hmm |
| 04:26 | most of the tutorials I find are for mod_fastcgi, which isn't included in Ubuntu's repos | |
| 04:26 | rangi | are you wedded to apache? |
| 04:26 | i find nginx a lot faster to set up, when im proxying | |
| 04:26 | cdickinson | not really, but since I already am using Apache for the Koha instances, it would save me work by having to integrate anything else into Puppet |
| 04:27 | rangi | yeah makes sense |
| 04:27 | cdickinson | if I can't get this working, I might end up doing it anyway |
| 04:28 | at least I have somewhere to start with configuring nginx | |
| 04:28 | wizzyrea | a koha timeline would be neat |
| 04:29 | rangi | with a companion app |
| 04:29 | you could totally respond too | |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | Ok, so. |
| 04:32 | as an example | |
| 04:32 | the Skinny app notifies me when things happen with my account. | |
| 04:32 | I want this, but for koha | |
| 04:32 | it doesn't even have to do anything else. | |
| 04:32 | rangi | https://developer.getpebble.com/tutorials/ |
| 04:32 | start here :) | |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 04:33 | rangi | you can whack a watchface up pretty fast |
| 04:33 | wizzyrea | believe it or not, I have actually written programs that function in C. Not in 15 years or more, but I have done it. |
| 04:33 | rangi | and get a feel for it |
| 04:33 | https://developer.getpebble.com/guides/ | |
| 04:33 | then move on to apps themselves | |
| 04:34 | * wizzyrea | bookmarks |
| 04:35 | rangi | next |
| 04:35 | make a smartstrap | |
| 04:35 | that can do nfc | |
| 04:35 | and now you can issue books via rfid with your watch | |
| 04:36 | wizzyrea | and wear your selfcheck on your wrist. |
| 04:36 | rangi | yep |
| 04:36 | eythian | just have it present a barcode you scan |
| 04:36 | cheaper+easier | |
| 04:36 | wizzyrea | have the pebble present a barcode you mean |
| 04:36 | eythian | yeah, as your card |
| 04:36 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 04:36 | rangi | i meant for reading the rfid tags on books |
| 04:36 | wizzyrea | having your library card on your wrist is a terriffic idea |
| 04:36 | spelled correctly, of course | |
| 04:36 | terrific? | |
| 04:36 | there we go. | |
| 04:37 | rangi | be kinda cool if as a librarian |
| 04:37 | you could circulate an item to any borrower just with your watch : | |
| 04:37 | eythian | if we had more of an OPAC API, it'd be easy. |
| 04:37 | rangi | ) |
| 04:37 | wizzyrea | yes that would be neat |
| 04:38 | slightly more evilly, you could go to all of the insecure rfid libraries and rewrite all of the tags! | |
| 04:38 | rangi | even if just to do an ndf talk about it |
| 04:38 | wizzyrea | not that anyone would ever *do* that |
| 04:39 | rangi | speaking of rfid, waitaki are going to move to that too |
| 04:39 | eythian | pop-quiz: is the "show more" thing on facets actually useful, do people think? It takes them from showing 5 to showing 10. Why not just show 10 to start with? |
| 04:39 | rangi | screen space is the only thing i can think of |
| 04:40 | i think things like that would be better to have a default for | |
| 04:40 | then let users pick their settings | |
| 04:40 | eythian | this doesn't make my task here easier, which is what I was hoping for. |
| 04:40 | rangi | theres a bunch in the OPAC that would be nice to let users customise .. or have a remember my choices option |
| 04:41 | wizzyrea | yeah probably still not easier |
| 04:41 | :) | |
| 04:41 | eythian | oh, actually |
| 04:41 | I can mimic how zebra works | |
| 04:41 | I thought it was going to be harder than it actually is. | |
| 04:42 | wizzyrea | does it do tricky stuff like "most relevant facets" in the first 5, because that's the only reason to "show more" imo |
| 04:42 | if it's dumb, and it's just the first 5, then no reason not to show them all. | |
| 04:42 | eythian | well, not relevant, just the most common |
| 04:43 | which is arguably the same thing | |
| 04:43 | * wizzyrea | almost argued with you |
| 04:43 | wizzyrea | but then you said the 2nd thing |
| 04:43 | and it was ok. | |
| 04:43 | eythian | relevance I'd consider having relation to the search term as much as the results, possibly. |
| 04:44 | in an ideal world this'd be handled by the template which would javascript expand things when clicked. | |
| 04:44 | but we're not in that world. | |
| 04:45 | rangi | not yet |
| 04:45 | wizzyrea | no, no we're not. |
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| 04:57 | cdickinson | thank goodness |
| 04:57 | got it working | |
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| 06:31 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:33 | putti | reiveune, hi |
| 06:35 | reiveune | salut putti, magnuse, rangi |
| 06:36 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:37 | finally saw the first "Taxi" movie - that was fun! | |
| 06:38 | magnuse | (the french original from Marseille, of course, not the us remake) |
| 06:41 | liw | interestingly, the French and US Taxi movies both include Luc Besson (writer, producer) |
| 06:48 | reiveune | magnuse: yep only the first is cool |
| 06:49 | (in french version of course) | |
| 06:49 | BobB | magnuse, back to work! I have a question :) |
| 06:50 | On the Search Results page, the sort by field: | |
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| 06:50 | BobB | Publication/Copyright date: newest to oldest |
| 06:50 | magnuse | reiveune: ah, i was thinking of buying numbers 2, 3 and 4 too! |
| 06:50 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:50 | BobB | I seem to recall that runs off the date in the 008, not off the 260$c |
| 06:51 | can anyone confirm that? | |
| 06:51 | magnuse | BobB: yup |
| 06:51 | BobB | cool, many thanks |
| 06:51 | magnuse | 'cause 260$c is "free text" and can include crazy s**t like "cop 1994" |
| 06:52 | BobB | yes, yes !! |
| 06:52 | magnuse | the relevant positions in 008 should contain a "clean" year |
| 06:52 | BobB | exactly |
| 06:52 | magnuse | i was thinking about this while walking the dog this morning... |
| 06:52 | BobB | thanks magnuse, problem solved |
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| 06:52 | reiveune | magnuse: I enjoyed only the first (like many people), but you may appreciate the following |
| 06:52 | fridolin | hie there |
| 06:53 | magnuse | reiveune: yeah, i think i will give them a chance |
| 06:53 | reiveune | :) |
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| 07:00 | magnuse | reiveune: we also started watching "De guerre lasse" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2806878/ but my wife fell asleep after half an hour ;-) |
| 07:00 | we'll finish it soon, though | |
| 07:01 | a.k.a. "MARSEILLE DE GUERRE LASSE" | |
| 07:02 | reiveune | magnuse: I have not seen it, but it has not a good score on imdb |
| 07:04 | magnuse | 5.2 out of 10? yeah, that is not a lot |
| 07:04 | we'll see... | |
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| 07:08 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m |
| 07:08 | sophie_m | Hello magnuse |
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| 07:17 | Joubu | hello |
| 07:19 | magnuse | bonjour Joubu |
| 07:25 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:25 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 25, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:25 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:25 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 25, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:25 | putti | Joubu, ¡hola! |
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| 08:10 | magnuse | tjänare andreashm |
| 08:21 | andreashm | halloj magnuse |
| 08:33 | magnuse | ncip! ncip! ncip! |
| 08:41 | * cait | waves |
| 08:47 | * magnuse | waves to cait |
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| 09:25 | Joubu | Does someone want how I can import an xml file with several records in it? |
| 09:25 | ashimema | did magnuse do a happy dance there? |
| 09:25 | is your ncip working magnuse? | |
| 09:25 | Joubu | I have used MARC::Record::new_from_xml, but only the first record is retrieved |
| 09:25 | cait | Joubu: i think the bulkscript can do it |
| 09:26 | or do ou want to know about the structure? | |
| 09:26 | bug 10407 | |
| 09:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10407 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , allow MARCXML records to be imported via Koha's GUI |
| 09:27 | Joubu | cait: I am writting a test, I have generated a xml file with several records, and I want to read it to be sure it has been correctly imported |
| 09:27 | I could use a XML lib, but I would prefer a MARC way | |
| 09:27 | ha, MARC::Batch | |
| 09:28 | ashimema | don't you want MARC::Batch for that? |
| 09:28 | lol.. I should read up before posting | |
| 09:29 | Joubu | ashimema: I have read the doc, but grep xml in the doc of MARC::Batch returned nothing |
| 09:29 | ashimema | https://metacpan.org/pod/MARC::File::XML |
| 09:29 | there's an example in the Synopsis.. does that not work? | |
| 09:30 | my $batch = MARC::Batch->new( 'XML', $filename ); | |
| 09:30 | while ( my $record = $batch->next() ) { | |
| 09:30 | } | |
| 09:30 | I 'think' that's how i've done it in the past? | |
| 09:31 | Joubu | it works pretty well and it's exactly what I wanted, thanks! |
| 09:31 | ashimema | brill :) |
| 09:34 | cait | ashimema++ Joubu++ |
| 09:35 | magnuse | ashimema: nah, no happy dance now. my ncip server is mostly working, i am working on the client side of things + the ui. so still a ways to go... |
| 09:35 | ashimema | you had me excited there ;) |
| 09:38 | magnuse | sorry about that |
| 09:39 | it was just my little rallying cry | |
| 09:40 | ashimema | hehe.. ncip needs such a cry I imagine.. before going to war with it |
| 09:41 | magnuse | yup |
| 09:41 | @wunder boo | |
| 09:41 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on August 25, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:42 | magnuse | right now i am going to do take the dog outside and do a small skirmish with the heat, then a major battle with lunch! |
| 09:42 | ashimema | hehe |
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| 11:04 | magnuse | phew, that was close |
| 11:04 | @wunder boo | |
| 11:04 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 22.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on August 25, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:02 | fridolin | Joubu: a little bit work for you Bug 14544 |
| 12:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves |
| 12:05 | Joubu | fridolin: thanks! |
| 12:05 | fridolin | ;) |
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| 12:09 | Joubu | fridolin: very nice catches! |
| 12:09 | fridolin | I have 1 more |
| 12:09 | * fridolin | bughunter |
| 12:11 | Joubu | fridolin: which one? |
| 12:12 | fridolin | I'll tel you, just a </div> pb |
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| 12:21 | cait | :) |
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| 12:30 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:34 | fridolin1 | Joubu: I have a new one, may I write a new note ? |
| 12:36 | Joubu | fridolin1: yes please |
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| 12:55 | xarragon | How do i print the available columns in a dbix::class resultset? |
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| 13:06 | putti | Hello |
| 13:06 | wahanui | niihau, putti |
| 13:11 | putti | In circulation.tt there is the section which starts like "[% IF ( noissues ) %]<div>[% ELS", I want to copy similar section to the moremember.pl page because it would be great to see all the notices also there. But my problem is that I don't know how I can abstract the code from circulation.pl so that I could use it in both: circulation.pl and moremember.pl. Any ideas? |
| 13:13 | Can .inc files solve this problem? | |
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| 13:16 | Joubu | putti: .inc if for TT files |
| 13:16 | putti | Well now I looked into those include files, looks like they can only abstract the template files. Is there any example of the .pl files which would output same params in both scripts? |
| 13:16 | Joubu | s/if/is |
| 13:16 | putti | yeah! |
| 13:17 | Joubu | putti: yes, c/p ... |
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| 13:17 | putti | ... D: |
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| 13:33 | tcohen | hi there |
| 13:37 | Joubu | tcohen: hi! |
| 13:37 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 13:42 | * cait | waves |
| 13:49 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 13:50 | cait | tcohen: i won't make the meeting tomorrow |
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| 13:50 | tcohen | cait: :-P |
| 13:51 | that could lower your karma actually | |
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| 13:58 | tcohen | who keeps schema.koha-community.org? |
| 13:59 | cait | is it not listed on the wiki? |
| 14:00 | tcohen | wiki? |
| 14:00 | wahanui | i guess wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
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| 14:00 | tcohen | @later tell nengard could you please upgrade the DB schema on the site? |
| 14:00 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:01 | * xarragon | is starting to slowly hate dbix::class |
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| 14:17 | tcohen | xarragon: why is that? |
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| 14:29 | xarragon | tcohen: If you are not familiar with it the work needed to debug the result of a query is massive. |
| 14:30 | tcohen | yeah |
| 14:30 | i usually rely on use Data::Printer colored => 1; warn p($rs); a lot | |
| 14:30 | :-D | |
| 14:34 | xarragon | Yeah.. I got solved now, the quickstart for data access solved it for me.. I had previously written code that accessed the data in some other fashion, using $rs->{COLUMN_NAME} and it would not work with the search method. |
| 14:34 | I guess it was bad code.. So good riddance. But it was a lot of code to wade through. | |
| 14:34 | But learning new stuff without setting aside time for it always stupid.. So it is my own fault. | |
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| 14:57 | tcohen | xarragon: you will love Koha::Objects |
| 15:03 | Shane-S | Q: My users are reporting when doing Patron Card Creator and creating a new batch they can't add multiple users, it just adds whomever they click, replacing the previous one....and we can't add user who have an apostrophe in their name, like O'Leary |
| 15:03 | anything I should look for on my end? Koha version 3.20.02.000 | |
| 15:04 | If it helps, it was upgraded from 3.12 so there have been some thing I have had to fix. | |
| 15:05 | Also, if you go to manage batches, and click edit, you CAN add multiple people, but you still can't add people with apostrophes. Sadly we only have 300 users, and only 2 have apostrophes...couldn't wide spread test. | |
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| 15:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:24 | Kchris | kchris_away |
| 15:27 | Joubu | khall: around? |
| 15:27 | khall | what's up? |
| 15:29 | Joubu | khall: I don't understand your note on bug 12632 |
| 15:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12632 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Hold limits ignored for record level holds with item level itemtypes |
| 15:29 | Joubu | the patch fixes a bug, so I expect a test to fail before the patch, which will be fixed after applying the fix |
| 15:30 | khall | Joubu: only the one unit test is testing this bug, the other tests are just proving existing functionality |
| 15:30 | to prevent future regressions | |
| 15:31 | If I run the tests without the main patch, I get 1 test failing | |
| 15:31 | if I run the tests after applying the main patch, I get 0 tests failing | |
| 15:34 | Joubu | khall: well, just tried again and you are right |
| 15:35 | sorry about that. I don't know what I have tested... The tests pass without the patch | |
| 15:35 | I suspect I haven't launch the right test file... | |
| 15:35 | +ed | |
| 15:36 | khall | np Joubu! |
| 15:37 | better safe than sorry ; ) | |
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| 16:12 | ktc | for regional language searching in OPAC is it necessary to make changes in /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/default.idx file by commenting line charmap word-phrase-utf.chr and adding line icuchain words-icu.xml |
| 16:12 | with latest version of koha | |
| 16:13 | cait | i think that's still true |
| 16:13 | it might be possible to create an instance from the beginning with icu - but i am not sure | |
| 16:14 | ktc | but while instance is created it does not ask anything |
| 16:14 | for icu | |
| 16:14 | cait | if there is something it would be in the config file for creating instances |
| 16:15 | ktc | oh k |
| 16:16 | koha-sites.conf only has indexing mode option | |
| 16:20 | cait | hm i guess the only way is editing the file sthen |
| 16:20 | ktc | ok |
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| 16:35 | Joubu | bye! |
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| 17:18 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 18:12 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
| 18:12 | tcohen | hola magnuse! |
| 18:14 | magnuse: should i fork kohadevbox or just provide a pull request ? | |
| 18:14 | we now have the ability to launch starman processes from the packages | |
| 18:15 | maybe we should branch it | |
| 18:15 | pre-3.22 | |
| 18:16 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 18:16 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cuatro Hojas, Mendiolaza, Argentina is 27.9°C (3:16 PM ART on August 25, 2015). Conditions: . Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001.2 hPa (Falling). |
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| 18:35 | magnuse | @later tell tcohen a pull request would be cool! |
| 18:35 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:43 | magnuse | tcohen a pull request would be cool! |
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| 19:18 | Shane-S | sorry I was away, I checked the log, didn't see an answer. Anyone know why I can't add more then 1 patron to a new batch in the Patron Card creator...and part 2, why I can't add names with |
| 19:18 | and ' in them like O'Leary | |
| 19:21 | barton | @seen chris_n |
| 19:21 | huginn | barton: chris_n was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 0 hours, 12 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <chris_n> wizzyrea++ # for the nice label interface improvements |
| 19:39 | chris_n | Shane-S: I'm headed out now, but maybe bug 14123 is the issue with the multiple patron problem? |
| 19:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14123 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Patroncard: Patron search for batch no longer has Select / Select All / Add selected |
| 19:39 | chris_n | not sure about the apostrophe |
| 19:40 | Shane-S | okay thank I will look, I will see if I can record the screen...just need an easy place to upload...youtube is blocked here |
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| 19:57 | tubaclarinet | Greetings everyone! |
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| 20:53 | * cait | waves |
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| 22:02 | rangi | hmm i have to upgrade the jenkins server, new jenkins is exploding because java is too old |
| 22:03 | cait | oh no |
| 22:03 | need a bigger server now or software update? | |
| 22:05 | rangi | needs to go to at least wheezy |
| 22:05 | doing that now | |
| 22:05 | cait | keeping fingers crosed |
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| 22:19 | eythian | hi |
| 22:19 | wahanui | bidet, eythian |
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| 22:24 | rangi | chug chug chug .. it hasnt exploded yet |
| 22:27 | cait | heh |
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| 22:37 | tcohen | hi kiwis |
| 22:38 | * cait | waves |
| 22:40 | rangi | hi tcohen |
| 22:40 | eythian | cait: what are you doing waving, you don't live here! :) |
| 22:40 | rangi | im just fixing jenkins (well trying too) |
| 22:40 | eythian | also, hello tcohen |
| 22:40 | tcohen | rangi: what's going on with jenkins? |
| 22:40 | rangi | server ran out of space |
| 22:40 | tcohen | ouch |
| 22:40 | hi eythian | |
| 22:41 | rangi | then it couldnt restart cos the new version needs at least java7 |
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| 22:41 | rangi | so ive upgraded the box to wheezy |
| 22:41 | (ill do it to jessie at some point) | |
| 22:41 | which was tricky cos it is all in french | |
| 22:41 | and now it has java7 | |
| 22:42 | mtj | hi rangi, hey... why is it in french? |
| 22:42 | rangi | it's biblibres server |
| 22:42 | mtj | aah, slap! |
| 22:43 | tcohen | rangi: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 22:43 | i don't think they would care | |
| 22:43 | heh | |
| 22:43 | they are rewriting bokeh with english as a basis... | |
| 22:44 | eythian: i need to add starman and libplack-middleware-reverseproxy-perl as dependencies | |
| 22:44 | but need your opinion on making them mandatory | |
| 22:45 | eythian | hmm |
| 22:45 | the libplack isn't so bad, starman I'm less sure about. | |
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| 22:46 | tcohen | they are both shipped with all supported versions |
| 22:46 | rangi | http://jenkins.koha-community.org/ |
| 22:46 | looks like it is back | |
| 22:46 | eythian | tcohen: well, I was mostly expecting it to have tons of deps, but it actually doesn't |
| 22:46 | tcohen | debian 7, debian 8 and ubuntu 14.04+ |
| 22:47 | eythian | tcohen: may as well add them, it's the way we want things to be going. |
| 22:47 | tcohen | i think so, yes |
| 22:47 | after pushing it i found a disgusting truth about the implementation | |
| 22:47 | eythian | heh |
| 22:48 | which one did you discover? | |
| 22:48 | tcohen | the apache server documentation had a lie |
| 22:48 | it said apache 2.4.7 introduced UDS support on ProxyPass | |
| 22:48 | (2.4.7 is what 14.04 ships) | |
| 22:49 | well, i did all my tests on jessie... | |
| 22:49 | when i tried in 14.04, i found that it didn't work :-D | |
| 22:49 | then read the apache changelog, and it seems the feature was introduced by 2.4.8 :-D | |
| 22:49 | eythian | ah |
| 22:49 | tcohen | liers! |
| 22:50 | eythian | that'd be annoying |
| 22:50 | tcohen | so i think i will add a warning for the users about apache version |
| 22:50 | and pointing them to the wiki, explaining how to install backports on the needed versions | |
| 22:51 | eythian | probably a good plan |
| 22:51 | tcohen | at least it doesn't break (the apache config tests for the apache version) |
| 22:51 | so, starman will be running, but won't be used | |
| 22:51 | in apache <2.4.8 | |
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| 22:52 | eythian | tcohen: I presume you mean only if you configure an instance/installation to use plack in the first place? |
| 22:52 | (I haven't had a good look yet at how you've done it.) | |
| 22:54 | tcohen | i added a koha-plack script |
| 22:54 | that supports —start, —stop, —restart, —enable, --disable | |
| 22:54 | by (un)commenting an include line in apache | |
| 22:55 | the controlling switches just rely on starman —daemonize and star-stop-daemon to handle per instance daemons | |
| 22:55 | eythian | OK. but, does starman run even when nothing is going to be using plack? |
| 22:55 | because that'd be weird | |
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| 22:58 | tcohen | eythian: there is this is_plack_enabled check :-D |
| 22:58 | eythian | ah OK :) |
| 22:58 | tcohen | it even has tab-completion :-P |
| 22:58 | eythian | does it have a separate starman instance per koha instance? |
| 22:58 | tcohen | it runs a starman process per instance |
| 22:58 | eythian | hmm |
| 22:59 | tubaclarinet | francesca: Hello (again) |
| 22:59 | tcohen | it is configured to serve 50 requests |
| 22:59 | eythian | that's not ideal. |
| 22:59 | tcohen | what you mean? |
| 22:59 | eythian | if you have two instances on one machine, it requires twice as much RAM |
| 22:59 | tcohen | true |
| 22:59 | eythian | It's not something that needs solving immediately, but it's something we need to solve. |
| 22:59 | francesca | hey its tubaclarinet! |
| 22:59 | how are you? | |
| 23:00 | tcohen | eythian: i agree. i really had too little feedback about the options |
| 23:00 | tubaclarinet | Well, thank you |
| 23:00 | tcohen | so i figured i should push it with enough time for tweaking |
| 23:00 | eythian | tcohen: we have a patch somewhere that pushes the koha-conf.xml through the headers from apache to starman. Which makes me feel a bit strange. |
| 23:01 | but it means you can have one starman running for many instances. | |
| 23:01 | pianohacker | eythian: the entire thing, or just the value of $KOHA_CONF |
| 23:01 | ? | |
| 23:02 | * francesca | waves at pianohacker |
| 23:02 | pianohacker | allo |
| 23:02 | tcohen | hi pianohacker francesca |
| 23:02 | eythian | pianohacker: the entire thing. |
| 23:02 | francesca | hey tchoen |
| 23:02 | eythian | that way we don't have a file open that could be compromised. But it's also weird. |
| 23:04 | pianohacker | :/ yeah, there's gotta be a better way |
| 23:06 | bye all | |
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| 23:12 | tcohen | eythian: you cannot rely on cache, right? that's the problem |
| 23:12 | eythian | tcohen: that's what Koha::Cache solves |
| 23:12 | tcohen | another thing i made use to be able to use a single common configuration file for all intances was variable definitions in apache |
| 23:13 | eythian | I can't parse that sentence :) |
| 23:13 | tcohen | https://github.com/tomascohen/[…]40079d259f24d4694 |
| 23:14 | tcohen: you don't use that many commas either | |
| 23:15 | so i reuse ${instance} | |
| 23:16 | eythian: it would be great if you took a look at the implementation at some point | |
| 23:16 | eythian | that should be OK, I'd think. |
| 23:16 | yeah, I will when I get the chance. | |
| 23:16 | tcohen | should i fill a bug for the dependencies? |
| 23:16 | eythian | hmm. So, the lib should be added to the regular dependencies thing so it gets autogenerated. |
| 23:16 | starman will have to be manually added to control.in | |
| 23:17 | rangi | tcohen: ive updated the schema |
| 23:17 | tcohen | rangi: awesome! |
| 23:17 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, tcohen |
| 23:17 | eythian | I don't mind if it's a separate bug or in the one for the rest of the work |
| 23:17 | tcohen | i'll add a followup |
| 23:17 | will ask your review before pusing, though | |
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| 23:17 | francesca | you guys have an awesome jar? |
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| 23:18 | eythian | http://notalwaysright.com/this[…]a-time-bomb/44954 <-- "online card catalog" ?! |
| 23:18 | tcohen: sure | |
| 23:25 | tubaclarinet | Good bye :-) |
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| 23:29 | tcohen | eythian: is there a way to script thing inside pbuilder? |
| 23:29 | eythian | how do you mean? |
| 23:29 | tcohen | i'm creating kohabuildbox, to create an environment suitable for building packages |
| 23:29 | and i would like to add everything we need to the pbuilder env | |
| 23:30 | vagrant + ansible to create everything that is needed | |
| 23:30 | eythian | the point of pbuilder is that you don't do that |
| 23:30 | so you're doing a build in a totally clean environment | |
| 23:31 | tcohen | suppose i want to build a build server, and i want to script all its setup |
| 23:31 | that's pretty much what i'm doing | |
| 23:31 | rangi | yeah dont put vagrant and ansible etc inside pbuilder .. the other way round really |
| 23:31 | eythian | oh, like you want to script the creation of the pbuilder environment? |
| 23:32 | tcohen | exactly! |
| 23:32 | eythian | yeah, you can do that, though it's fiddly |
| 23:32 | rangi | have you looked at docker? |
| 23:32 | tcohen | rangi: i did |
| 23:32 | rangi | it might be easier to make a docker receipe with the pbuilder set up in it already |
| 23:32 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]figuring_Pbuilder <-- tcohen, this is a bit old but might give you the gist |
| 23:33 | also, some part of it doesn't work quite right, but I don't remember which bit | |
| 23:33 | tcohen | —othermirror |
| 23:33 | i'm sure it should be possible to make pbuilder run a script | |
| 23:34 | eythian | cat script | pbuilder --login --save ? |
| 23:34 | but, I'd aim to have it work from a command because that's more better. | |
| 23:34 | https://twitter.com/maxlavergn[…]36092624219336704 | |
| 23:34 | tcohen | rangi: i was intrigued by that option, but it is not that familiar to me, and i had too little time to do it |
| 23:36 | eythian: thanks, i'll try something like that | |
| 23:36 | oh, pbuilder-scripts | |
| 23:36 | eythian | just keep in mind that if you make too many changes to the environment, you're defeating the purpose of pbuilder :) |
| 23:38 | tcohen | eythian: i just want to add one of my own repos, and pull some packages for the build, and have it up to date too |
| 23:38 | eythian | if packages are needed for the build, they should be in Build-Depends and in the koha repo. |
| 23:39 | (unless you've got something weird going on) | |
| 23:39 | * francesca | does a happy dance |
| 23:39 | tcohen | eythian: good point |
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