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00:04 | indradg | eythian: that "accessing koha from internet" is a 3.8 install (not upgraded) |
00:06 | eythian | indradg: sure, but it'll still work exactly the same way as it's apache configuration. |
00:07 | indradg | sure! but either brave souls or with a death wish to take an old unpatched box online |
00:08 | eythian | yes, definitely. |
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01:12 | mtj | hey #koha |
01:12 | http://arstechnica.com/informa[…]dit-tool-project/ | |
01:13 | ..just in case people havent seen it yet | |
01:14 | just when you think you've seen in all.. someone surprises you, huh :/ | |
01:15 | http://arstechnica.com/informa[…]e-pushing-adware/ | |
01:19 | looks like the old Koha project at SF hasnt been seized yet - thats good | |
01:20 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/koha/ | |
01:21 | rangi | i deleted all the tarballs off there ages ago |
01:23 | mtj | hey rangi, good move |
01:23 | rangi | ill see if i can remove the rest |
01:24 | doesnt help randoms keep making new projects on there | |
01:24 | https://sourceforge.net/projec[…]?source=directory | |
01:25 | mtj | it sure does pay to have a plan-b, when using someone else's services for your project.. huh |
01:26 | rangi | yup |
01:29 | mtj | some of those koha projects on SF are pretty gonzo |
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01:32 | rangi | killed everything i can, sourceforge wont let you delete a project |
01:33 | eythian | it's mostly windows binaries that they're co-opting. |
01:33 | fortunately, we're immune to that. | |
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01:42 | cdickinson | ugh, Sourceforge |
01:43 | <huginn> Sent 6 days, 3 hours, and 35 minutes ago: <eythian> feel free to target Debian instead of Ubuntu if it's easier, I won't mind :D | |
01:43 | I've been online all week... | |
01:43 | rangi | it only tells you when you say something |
01:43 | eythian | it only sends when it sees that you're actually there. |
01:44 | cdickinson | oh, right |
01:44 | huginn: can confirm, I'm alive | |
01:44 | huginn | cdickinson: I suck |
01:44 | cdickinson | lol |
01:45 | I think I remember the context though | |
01:45 | I was complaining about the bug in the libapache2-mpm-itk package, right? | |
01:45 | too late, I already made a hack in Puppet to work around it :P | |
01:46 | still need to report it though if it hasn't yet | |
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01:47 | eythian | cdickinson: it's been reported long ago |
01:47 | cdickinson | wow |
01:47 | and it works fine in Debian and later versions of Ubuntu? | |
01:49 | eythian | yep |
01:49 | I think they don't consider it important enough for an SRU | |
01:51 | cdickinson | eythian: I respectfully disagree with that :P |
01:52 | eythian | No, it's true. I do think that they don't think it's that important :) |
01:52 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu[…]-itk/+bug/1286882 | |
01:52 | cdickinson | sorry, what I meant to say is that I disagree with THEIR opinion, not yours |
01:54 | lol | |
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01:57 | eythian | mtj: <mtj> http://arstechnica.com/informa[…]e-pushing-adware/ |
01:57 | and then you're talking about putting stuff on github? | |
01:58 | cdickinson | oh yeah, that's right |
01:58 | * eythian | feels that it's possible to take lessons from the sourceforge thing. |
01:58 | mtj | um, are github added adware to their repos? |
01:59 | rangi | not yet they arent |
01:59 | eythian | no, but they're exactly the same sort of service. |
01:59 | mtj | s/added/adding/ |
01:59 | rangi | but sourceforge didnt for 15 years |
02:01 | mtj | its OK with me if you remove the KC.org page on github, fyi |
02:02 | for me, github is a useful mirror... only | |
02:02 | eythian | If you're a free software project, it seems better to encourage the use of free software services. |
02:02 | and github definitely isn't. | |
02:02 | mtj | yeah, i agree |
02:03 | like i said... its fin with me to remove it :0) | |
02:03 | fine | |
02:07 | eythian, rangi... having an up-to-date koha page on github has a few other positives too | |
02:08 | eythian | that wouldn't happen if it was mirrored on another service, like gitlab? |
02:08 | I actually kinda like the idea of having a k-c hosted gitlab, but it would require too many workflow changes to take full advantage of it I feel. | |
02:09 | mtj | nope :) not this specific postive |
02:10 | cdickinson | http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2015/q2/194 |
02:10 | rangi | @quote search coffee |
02:10 | huginn | rangi: 1 found: #171: "rangi: I find proprietary software unethical...." |
02:10 | rangi | @quote get 171 |
02:10 | huginn | rangi: Quote #171: "rangi: I find proprietary software unethical. So even if it made me coffee and polished my shoes everyday, it would still suck" (added by wizzyrea at 08:10 PM, December 08, 2011) |
02:10 | rangi | mtj: i stand by that |
02:11 | mtj | lol, seriously awesome chris :) |
02:13 | rangi | http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git <-- thats an automatic mirror |
02:13 | but yeah i think we could run up gitlab.koha-community.org | |
02:13 | mtj | it seems most of the perl6 stuff is happening on github, i was a bit shocked by that?! |
02:15 | rangi | if there was a bugzilla -> gitlab importer |
02:15 | that would be pretty sweet | |
02:15 | but first i think we would want to get a bunch of people to play with it, and see if they like it | |
02:16 | and if it's worth changing the workflow, and figuring out how that would work, with signoffs etc | |
02:18 | eythian | yeah |
02:18 | rangi | i feel like our releases are really solid these days, and thats a testament to the signoff and qa process, so would have to figure out how that workflow would work with gitlab |
02:19 | mtj | sounds exciting :) |
02:20 | ..it might reveal some workflow improvements, to how we do things currently | |
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02:22 | mtj | i have been curious to see how the bug workflow is happening on perl6/github |
02:25 | rangi | as long as we dont move away from signoffs and qa, .. would be ok, if moved from patches to pull requests, but id resist any relaxing in qa standards thats for sure |
02:25 | eythian | a gerrit style workflow could achieve a similar purpose. |
02:27 | rangi | yep |
02:31 | right, gonna try to nap and hopefully fight off this cough | |
02:36 | cdickinson | get better soon, rangi |
02:40 | mtj | the qa-tools repo might be a good little test project for gitlab |
02:40 | (afaik, its using github as a tracker) | |
02:41 | ..github as its bug tracker | |
02:42 | so.. not great :p | |
02:43 | i think lazyness won there | |
02:46 | yeah, gerrit too eythian :) | |
02:47 | ..also worth considering | |
02:47 | again | |
03:10 | cdickinson | <cdickinson> <huginn> Sent 6 days, 3 hours, and 35 minutes ago: <eythian> feel free to target Debian instead of Ubuntu if it's easier, I won't mind :D - actually, that got me thinking. I'll probably try my setup out with non-Ubuntu instances when I get it working with that as well |
03:10 | how well supported is Red Hat-based distro in Koha? | |
03:10 | eythian | good plan, we tend to deploy Debian (but that's not set in stone) |
03:10 | cdickinson: not nearly as well as Debian-based ones are | |
03:11 | you basically ahve to take the tarball and do it by hand | |
03:11 | wizzyrea | there was a project for redhat I saw just the other day to package an rpm, but I believe it was abandoned sometime around 3.10 |
03:13 | cdickinson | ahh |
03:14 | eythian | yeah, I remember seeing people talking about it, but it's a fair bit of work. It took liw most of a year (I think?) to give us a solid enough foundation to build the debian packages on. |
03:17 | cdickinson | yeah, I can understand that |
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03:51 | * eythian | is always surprised when I discover things don't work that I expected would. In this case, advanced search in the staff client works when I hadn't even got to looking at it yet. |
03:51 | eythian | In this case, I wanted to see how it failed. |
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04:59 | eythian | 2097 result(s) found with limit(s): 'and mc-itype,phr:ARTICLE and mc-itype,phr:BOOK and and and and and and ' ... I maybe should fix that. |
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05:29 | cdickinson | hey eythian, is it possible to configure Koha with Zebra index running on a separate machine at the moment? |
05:29 | even if it's still in the same package? | |
05:29 | eythian | yes, but not automatically, it's something of a manual process. |
05:29 | cdickinson | That's fine, I'd just like to know how haha |
05:29 | eythian | (basically, edit the relevant bits of koha-conf.xml.) |
05:29 | disclaimer: I've never done this. | |
05:29 | cdickinson | okay |
05:29 | I'll take a look | |
05:29 | heh | |
05:35 | I take it it's <biblioserver> and <authorityserver> in particular I need to look at? Can they be repeated to add more than one server? | |
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05:42 | eythian | yeah, and I don't know |
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05:57 | liw | eythian, it only took about three months, for the Debian packages, if I remember correctly; but I had the benefit of sitting in the office with you and rangi etc |
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06:41 | reiveune | hello |
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07:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:00 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
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07:25 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:25 | wahanui | hi, gaetan_B |
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07:36 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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07:45 | fridolin | hie |
07:47 | nlegrand | Hey #koha |
08:04 | marcelr | hi fridolin nlegrand |
08:08 | fridolin | hie marcelr |
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08:46 | nlegrand | o/ marcelr |
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10:09 | marcelr | thx Joubu #bug 14327 |
10:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14327 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Fix js error "TypeError: events is null" in additem.js |
10:09 | marcelr | Joubu++ |
10:11 | Joubu | marcelr: you're welcome! |
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12:17 | tcohen | morning |
12:17 | cait: i sent it | |
12:18 | cait | ah cool |
12:18 | tcohen | he's just an asshole |
12:18 | sorry for that | |
12:18 | cait | ah, so you sent it a while ago |
12:18 | gr | |
12:19 | tcohen | that day I sent it to the list and to marshall |
12:19 | cait | maybe he missed it? |
12:19 | tcohen | yeah, sure |
12:19 | cait | heh |
12:20 | tcohen | maybe someone could remind him |
12:22 | cait | hm yes maybe :) |
12:23 | just got your email :) | |
12:25 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
12:30 | marcelr | hi tcohen cait |
12:30 | khall around? | |
12:31 | khall | yo |
12:31 | marcelr | khall: bug 14167 |
12:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl |
12:31 | marcelr | why DEBUG as your level in the conf? better WARN or so? |
12:31 | tcohen | hi marcelr khall |
12:31 | cait | hi marcelr |
12:31 | marcelr | :) |
12:32 | khall | marcelr: good idea |
12:32 | marcelr | shall i add it in a followup? |
12:32 | khall | please do! |
12:33 | tcohen | fo-llow-up! fo-llow-up! |
12:34 | marcelr | you like them heh, tomas |
12:34 | tcohen | if it makes Koha::Logger get passed-qa... :-D |
12:35 | marcelr | it would not be a blocker :) |
12:35 | but we should not log debug by default.. | |
12:36 | tcohen | definitely |
12:39 | marcelr | oops permissions.. |
12:39 | Can't open /var/log/koha/test/intranet-error.log (Permission denied) at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Appender/File.pm line 103. | |
12:40 | always nice | |
12:40 | cait | I still have the tax patches on my list... was wondering if someone could run the update with some more acq data than i have |
12:40 | and test this bit | |
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12:41 | drojf | hi #koha |
12:41 | tcohen | hi drojf |
12:41 | marcelr | hi drojf |
12:41 | drojf | hi tcohen and marcelr |
12:42 | xarragon | I am trying to add an item to my catalogue, and I am getting an error: "Unsupported UNIMARC character encoding [] for XML output for UNIMARC" is this some known configuration mistake? I found some very old bugs on the tracker with similar messages. |
12:50 | AmitG | hi tchoen |
12:50 | hit tcohen | |
12:51 | tcohen | hi AmitG |
12:51 | AmitG | @bug 13993 |
12:51 | huginn | AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13993 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Transfer order from one vendor to another vendor previous orderstatus is not changed. |
12:51 | AmitG | @bug 6810 |
12:51 | huginn | AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, ASSIGNED , Send membership expiry reminder notices |
12:55 | cait | xarragon: is your installation set up with unimarc? |
12:55 | xarragon: i think I'd suspect that sweden would use MARC21 | |
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13:02 | xarragon | cait: Ah, you are probably right. I remember not knowing how to configure it and just used some random default.. |
13:03 | cait | i think i'd fix that first |
13:03 | you system might not be properly set up | |
13:03 | how did you install koha? packages or dev installation? | |
13:04 | xarragon | It is a dev installation. But it is kind of broken since I just wanted something up and running. |
13:05 | cait: I am testing out other people's patches, so having a proper working installation is probably a good idea. | |
13:05 | cait | the marc flavour is set at 2 steps during installation |
13:05 | when you run Makefile it will ask | |
13:05 | you want to say marc21 there | |
13:05 | it will be the default | |
13:05 | the next is running the web installer | |
13:05 | there you want to pick marc21 too | |
13:06 | i think you might have some mismatch there maybe | |
13:06 | xarragon | I belive I reinstalled it and set it to unimarc at one point, so that is probably the error. is there any way to see the flavor in the db or installation files? I looked in koha-conf but saw nothing obious. |
13:06 | cait | your installed frameworks/database setting might not match what zebra indexes |
13:06 | i think i'd rerun it to make sure | |
13:07 | there is a pref, but that won't help you much | |
13:07 | xarragon | Anyway, I will nuke this install and make clean one, there have been some db upgrade issues before anyway, so I need it clean. |
13:07 | 7win 7 | |
13:07 | whupsie | |
13:18 | cait | xarragon: for explanation: unimarc is the marc flavour used in france and maybe some other counries, but most use marc21 |
13:19 | xarragon: and there are quite big differences, so you want to have the right one for your data | |
13:19 | xarragon: for example 200 is title in unimarc, 245 in marc21 | |
13:19 | xarragon: and then there is also NORMARC, which is more similar to MARC21 but not quite and used in norway | |
13:19 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
13:26 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14111 - More t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t silencing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86c27a2c393e23701> / Bug 14111: Silence warnings in t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]32e197a51af60bcee> / Bug 13382 - RDA: 700/710/711 display in XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]p=koha.git;a=comm |
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13:26 | marcelr | tcohen++ # 5010 is the first step :) |
13:26 | tcohen | marcelr: as you said, a first step. i'm happy too |
13:26 | cait | the second meeting suggested to move the prefs to koha_conf.xml |
13:26 | hopefully it's in the logs | |
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13:31 | tcohen | cait: i read that |
13:31 | i'd go further | |
13:31 | i'd like a set of preferences that describe explicitly the use case | |
13:32 | something "I am set using HTTP but I'm behind a reverse proxy that puts SSL on top of me" | |
13:32 | not only a hardcoded protocol | |
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13:37 | cait | yougot me confused |
13:37 | i think we need something that is easy for the library | |
13:37 | also you might be reachable via multiple domains... so they can set the preferred one? | |
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13:38 | cait | out of my depth there... i am mostly hoping it will finally be more consistent |
13:39 | tcohen | the simple situations should be trivial for end-users |
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14:01 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14024: DBRev 3.21.00.005 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0a3606ce86d5e8506> / Bug 14024 - add reports to action logs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]acb5ceed703722d7c> / Bug 14024 - add reports to action logs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8d2125d1392581108 |
14:02 | cait | oh wow |
14:02 | big stuff :) | |
14:03 | syspref module and opacbaseurl | |
14:03 | tcohen | =D |
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14:06 | xarragon | cait: Ok, thanks. I knew my MARC framwork was b0rked, I plan to configure one Koha install to use the Swedish defaults, but I do not have them available at the time. |
14:07 | cait: I also discovered that if the database is not created when you run the web installer, you will get a somewhat unclear message about 'blah blah on unblessed reference', but the apache logs will tell the full story. | |
14:08 | cait | hm |
14:08 | wonder why it would not be created | |
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14:08 | cait | doens#t it check the name and permissions on one of the steps? |
14:08 | hi mveron :) | |
14:08 | mveron | hi cait :-) |
14:09 | cait | gone for a bit. |
14:09 | finnnd | |
14:09 | xarragon | cait: I executed DROP DATABASE koha; before reloading the 127.0.1.1:8080 page. |
14:09 | cait | to find a real late breakfast :) |
14:10 | hm, and didnÄt run create database koha after? | |
14:10 | xarragon | cait: yeah |
14:10 | cait: So it was my own fault. | |
14:10 | cait | hard to catch all possible things i guess |
14:10 | but it's what i ususally do | |
14:10 | drop database... create database.. | |
14:10 | xarragon | cait: I added it under the 'common errors' section to the wiki page I made: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tup#Common_Errors |
14:10 | cait | and yu don't need to rerun the permission command then |
14:11 | xarragon | cait: Well, it is nothing wrong with Koha, just me being stupid. But I figured it might help someone, or possibly one could make the module output a slightly more clear message. |
14:21 | tcohen | @later tell eythian I think the hard disk is full for jessie-build.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz |
14:21 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
14:22 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14142 - Holds queue viewer only displays first subtitle from marc keyword mappings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5838f973c70a70b61> / Bug 13815 - plack loose CGI qw(-utf8) flag creating incorrect utf-8 encoding everywhere <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]302ccf18e55de911b> / Bug 14267: How active is active? < | |
14:54 | cait | hi there.... i'd like to try my hand at some message/notice related patches this week - could maybe someone take a lok at bug 12532? |
14:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12532 new feature, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Failed QA , Redirect guarantee email to guarantor |
14:55 | cait | hm |
14:55 | wrong number again | |
14:55 | bug 13972 | |
14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Include fields from subscription and serial table in serial notification email |
15:00 | tcohen | khall: your Sysprefs package broke several tests :-D |
15:00 | might be related to how caching is expected | |
15:01 | khall | hmm |
15:01 | tcohen | ah, and a merge error from me regarding OPACBaseUrl |
15:01 | @seen mtompset | |
15:01 | huginn | tcohen: mtompset was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 34 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <mtompset> Have a great day, #koha |
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15:05 | tcohen | jajm: please let me know when you have some spare minutes |
15:07 | khall: difficult to figure | |
15:07 | khall | tcohen: what't the bug number on that? |
15:08 | tcohen | bug 13967 introduced the package for sysprefs |
15:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13967 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , System preferences need a package |
15:08 | tcohen | if that's what you are asking |
15:11 | bisected using t/db_dependent/Acquisition.t: http://snag.gy/ThBRY.jpg | |
15:19 | @later tell mtompset do we really need to check if every syspref is OPACBaseURL? to fix it just in case? | |
15:19 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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15:30 | gaetan_B | bye |
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18:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13967: (RM followup) fix merge error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]77cba96292cdba8ee> / Bug 13967: (QA followup) Make DBIx control transactions on tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0422f081538e15138> |
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18:51 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
18:57 | indradg | hi mtompset |
19:07 | mtompset | @seen tchoen |
19:07 | huginn | mtompset: I have not seen tchoen. |
19:07 | mtompset | @seen tcohen |
19:07 | huginn | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 47 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <tcohen> @later tell mtompset do we really need to check if every syspref is OPACBaseURL? to fix it just in case? |
19:07 | mtompset | Awww... I was the last thing on his mind. :) |
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19:40 | mtompset | tcohen: I love you too, man. ;) |
20:17 | I hopefully submitted the patch as you correctly, gmcharlt. :) | |
20:17 | bug 14334 | |
20:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14334 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , DBI fighting DBIx over Autocommit in tests |
20:18 | mtompset | (the t/db_dependent/Letter.t one) |
20:19 | gmcharlt | mtompset: yep, I think you're on the right track |
20:19 | mtompset | I'm doing each one as a commit, so we can push them as fast as possible. tcohen ask for these ones first. |
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20:32 | mtompset | @later tell tcohen Is t/db_dependent/Acquisition/FillWithDefaultValues.t even writing to the DB at all? Why is that dbh stuff even there? |
20:32 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
20:46 | * rangi | resists the desire to reply to the ALIADA email |
20:50 | mtompset | You can't automate linking well, can you? |
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21:36 | mtompset | A's "complete"... though feedback on two would be appreciated. |
21:36 | bug 14334 | |
21:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14334 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , DBI fighting DBIx over Autocommit in tests |
21:36 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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23:01 | eythian | hi |
23:02 | @later tell tcohen yes, it is. Looking into it now. | |
23:02 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
23:24 | eythian | @later tell tcohen I added a 15GB volume and moved /srv to that, it's happier now. Keep an eye on it though, make sure nothing is leaking space. |
23:24 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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23:26 | rangi | sup NateC |
23:27 | eythian | @later tell tcohen oh, I've also turned on auto-rebooting when updates require it, though I don't expect that's very common. |
23:27 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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