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00:00 | eythian | I do plan to change that one day, but it requires a bit of work and planning. |
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00:13 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
00:13 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on June 02, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
00:14 | eythian | the weather on my watch is saying "thunderstorms" |
00:15 | ibeardslee | getting it from a different place? |
00:16 | indradg | eythian++ for libtest-perl-critic-progressive-perl :) |
00:16 | eythian | it gets it from yahoo weather. |
00:16 | indradg: :) | |
00:17 | indradg | @wunder kolkata |
00:17 | huginn | indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (5:20 AM IST on June 02, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
00:20 | eythian | that's a bit less pleasant weather, I feel :) |
00:24 | dcook | @wunder syd |
00:24 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 13.0°C (10:00 AM AEST on June 02, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
00:24 | indradg | eythian we are having a phenomenal heat wave that is killing people faster than a swine flu epidemic - http://www.ndtv.com/india-news[…]700-deaths-767856 |
00:24 | dcook | My hands did feel a bit frosty... |
00:24 | eythian | chilly old sydney |
00:24 | indradg: yeah, I've seen the news of the heat wave there, not so good :( | |
00:25 | indradg | it will prolly hold for another 10 days... until the monsoons get here |
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01:55 | mtj | hey eythian, thanks for the headsup ^ |
01:57 | i could possibly? build/upload the 3.16 package myself... i dont mind | |
02:00 | indradg: i just saw your Bengali commit in master.. good spotting :p | |
02:06 | eythian: aah, we dont have an 'oldoldstable' distribution defined, for the 'koha-common' package.. | |
02:07 | ...with 3.20 release - 3.16 is now 'oldoldstable' | |
02:09 | so, would only be able to be installed manually, with 'dpkg -i ./file.deb' etc? | |
02:11 | eythian | yeah |
02:11 | one of these days, I want to have both release-based, and whatever-it's-called-that-I-do-now-based distributions | |
02:12 | so you can add stable, or you can add 3.18 | |
02:12 | explaining that to people is going to be tricky. | |
02:12 | mtj | gotcha |
02:12 | eythian | but I also want to get package builds a lot more automated first. |
02:13 | mtj | that will be pretty satisfying to sort |
02:14 | jenking could run that build too, huh? | |
02:15 | eythian | maaaybe |
02:16 | rangi | well it could kick it off at least |
02:16 | wizzyrea | eythian++ for knowing all the things |
02:16 | rangi | once it sees the tag pushed |
02:16 | it would be also good to have it building packages everytime master changes | |
02:16 | just to test they arent broken | |
02:16 | but when it sees tags, it could build and put them in the repo even | |
02:16 | eythian | yeah, building is fine, deploying I'm somewhat more cautious of |
02:17 | rangi | assuming they build ok |
02:17 | eythian | for example, things can't go into the repo if they're not signed |
02:17 | rangi | true |
02:17 | eythian | also, handling weird things like 3.20~beta1 |
02:17 | and tracking progressive changelog updates and pushing them upstream | |
02:18 | (I really want to start adding the release notes into the changelog) | |
02:20 | rangi | thats not a bad plan |
02:23 | indradg | thanks mtj :) |
02:24 | eythian +1 for release notes | |
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03:51 | mtj | heres a random circ q, #koha... |
03:51 | ..can anyone see a problem in deleting/trimming old holiday,s from the special_holidays table? | |
03:52 | the reason why is... there seems to be quite a big performamce hit for having old holidays | |
03:54 | koha seems to be processesing all holiday rows during circ... even old ones? | |
03:55 | ..if so, some SQL to select only current holidays would be the fix here, huh | |
03:56 | the workaround would be to delete those old holidays | |
03:57 | can anyone come up with a reason why doing that might cause a problem? ^ | |
03:59 | wizzyrea | if one were to backdate a circ, it would have a hard time calculating a correct duedate. |
03:59 | but you might not care. | |
03:59 | well, "correct" - "expected" is possibly a better term. | |
03:59 | it'll be correct per the data it has, if you delete the holidays. | |
04:12 | mtj | ah yeah, ok.. |
04:13 | so, perhaps the comprise might be to save old circs from 2015.. | |
04:14 | wizzyrea | depends on how far back you expect someone would want to backdate a circ |
04:14 | mtj | ..then a backdate from > 2015-01-01 would be corrct, at least |
04:14 | wizzyrea | and, it would seem to me that nobody would much care if the due date on a backdated circ fell on a holiday day that was already past |
04:14 | i mean, it's already overdue. | |
04:15 | mtj | agree |
04:15 | wizzyrea | I'd probably rather see a fix that limits the holiday calculation from the date of circ. |
04:16 | so a backdated one would only take into account holidays that would affect it's circulation period | |
04:16 | that's probably harder, though. | |
04:17 | mtj | atm, theres no budget here for a proper fix - so im gonna have to settle for a quikfix :/ |
04:18 | wizzyrea | stink. |
04:18 | mtj | ..ill try to log a BZ bug tho, at least |
04:20 | wizzyrea | this sounds kind of familiar, there might be one |
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04:21 | mtj | fwiw, i trimmed 400 'old' special_holiday rows, down to 50 |
04:22 | ...and got a circ time reduction, from 14 to 5 seconds | |
04:23 | which is a pretty big deal, for checkout | |
04:24 | eythian | mtj: a better solution would be to fix the inefficiency causing the problem, wouldn't it? |
04:25 | a) 400 things shouldn't cause a big slowdown, b) if they're before the circdate, they shouldn't be considered anyway. | |
04:25 | mtj | atm, theres no budget for a fix |
04:28 | other than that... i agree with you both completely | |
04:30 | eythian | ah well |
04:30 | that should get added to a list somewhere | |
04:30 | that we can give to people who want to do some misc koha hacking | |
04:30 | even make a bug for it. | |
04:33 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/I_want_to_help could update this |
04:44 | mtj | nice, ill add the bug to that later |
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06:18 | cait | good morning #koha |
06:18 | eythian++ | |
06:19 | magnuse | eythian++ |
06:19 | why in particular this time? :-) | |
06:19 | * magnuse | waves too |
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06:28 | reiveune | hello |
06:28 | magnuse | bonojur reiveune |
06:28 | reiveune | hi magnuse dcook :) |
06:37 | dcook | salut reiveune :) |
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06:46 | magnuse | howdy dcook & paul_p |
06:46 | dcook | heya magnuse |
06:46 | Beavering away on that OAI harvester.. | |
06:46 | paul_p | bonjour magnus & dcook & others |
06:46 | dcook | Also using TT a bit differently than we have before.. |
06:47 | hey paul_p | |
06:47 | Hmm, although maybe my usage will actually make it impossible to translate... | |
06:47 | Merde! | |
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06:47 | mveron | Hi #koha |
06:48 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Untranslateable?" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/124 |
06:48 | magnuse | dcook++ |
06:48 | dcook | Since the strings are actually embedded in the TT code... that's probably bad, eh? |
06:49 | magnuse | i suspect it might be. cait might know? |
06:49 | cait | dcook: best way is to try and find out |
06:49 | magnuse | [% IF %][% ELSE %][% END %] is probably safer |
06:49 | dcook | Hmm |
06:49 | Maybe [% framework_name = 'Default' %] is a better example | |
06:50 | cait | but i am ont sure if this has any advantage |
06:50 | over the normal if else constructs | |
06:50 | think those would indeed be saver | |
06:50 | but i'd still do a test run on anything i am not sure about | |
06:50 | dcook | Hmm |
06:50 | cait | perl translate update de-DE - check if it turns up as a new string |
06:50 | have to run - bbiab | |
06:50 | dcook | thanks, cait |
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06:51 | dcook | Hmm... it's a totally new template so that probably won't help |
06:51 | magnuse | i don't think that should matter |
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06:51 | dcook | Oh, I just mean it's more work as it'll add heaps of new stuff |
06:51 | I'll just play it safe for now, as I only have 9 more minutes to work today | |
06:53 | mveron | Can anybody confirm Bug 14313 ? |
06:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14313 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC: Adding a comment makes result browser disappear |
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07:00 | fridolin | hie there |
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07:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
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07:41 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:00 | mveron | Reason for Bug 14313 found and fixed. |
08:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14313 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , OPAC: Adding a comment makes result browser disappear |
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08:27 | AmitG | hi indradg_ |
08:28 | indradg__ | Hi AmitG |
08:32 | nlegrand | hey #koha |
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08:52 | indradg__ | hi nlegrand |
09:04 | * Viktor | loves Plack response times with a passion! From 1220ms waiting for the .pl to 122ms. Lots of ++ to all involved in improving Plack support! |
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09:48 | nlegrand | gaetan_B: you were right :). We can use on shelf holds to make patrons requests books from our closed stacks. With bug 14045, bug 13881 and a bit more glue we will be able to handle stack requests :). |
09:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add specific quotas to on-site checkout |
09:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add desk management | |
09:48 | nlegrand | gaetan_B: and it will be far simpler than it is right now :) |
09:51 | * ashimema | perks up his ears.. |
09:51 | ashimema | stack requests |
09:54 | * mveron | Lunch... |
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09:54 | gaetan_B | nlegrand: that is very good news :) I think the Stockholm people might have looked into it this way too |
09:54 | but Andreas doesn't seem to be around today | |
09:55 | nlegrand | ashimema: well you can do it right now by using specific itemtypes for items in stacks and by allowing shelf holds for this itemtype |
09:56 | ashimema: then it appears in "holds to pull list", you can retrive the book in stacks, check them in, so they pass to the "holds awaiting pickup" list | |
09:57 | ashimema: we want to add desks location to holds (bug 13881) and to add some way to tell part of the "holds to pull" items are already about to be fetched or not | |
09:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add desk management |
10:00 | nlegrand | gaetan_B: I was blocked thinking they wouldn't want to change our itemtypes, but the more we talk about it, the more our current itemtypes seem silly :) |
10:01 | gaetan_B | somehow they always are o_O |
10:07 | cait | did someone say stack? |
10:07 | nlegrand | :) |
10:08 | cait | nlegrand: glad to hear that :) |
10:08 | we just got a paper from a library evaluating koha and stack requests were a concern there | |
10:09 | i think what they do is a bit more complicated - having callnumber ranges mapped to locations and different printrs | |
10:13 | nlegrand | ha, callnumber is kind of a mess here. Because the BULAC is a super library made from a lot of smaller ones. So we have as much callnumbers as there were different libraries contributing... :) |
10:14 | I'm about to try to correctly map the items.location field based on the callnumber, but il will certainly be a single batch job | |
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11:16 | cait | nlegrand: hm yeah, using shelving locations would be a good way for groupng |
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14:30 | reiveune | bye |
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16:12 | tcohen | hi |
16:26 | AmitG | hi |
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16:48 | pianohacker | ashimema: around? |
16:50 | gaetan_B | bye |
17:07 | pianohacker | @later tell ashimema Interesting shibboleth bug... the current code creates a new session on every page load, which is fine until you move things to the staff side. Just got rid of that; can you think of any quirky problems with the rest of the shib code that that might cause? |
17:07 | huginn | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
17:26 | tcohen | hi pianohacker |
17:26 | so you are back .-D | |
17:26 | what will you focus on this time? | |
17:27 | pianohacker | tcohen: bugs bugs bugs |
17:27 | tcohen | =D |
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17:28 | pianohacker | I'm currently working on SAML/Shibboleth problems, but now that I'm full time I'll be working to get Rancor, the hourly loans, etc accepted :) |
17:28 | what are you working on these days? | |
17:33 | tcohen | :-D |
17:33 | sounds like an awesome plan | |
17:33 | :-D | |
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17:52 | cait | pianohacker: i think important is to focus on one thing after the other maybe, all are quite big |
17:52 | :) | |
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18:00 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "khall: like this" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/126 |
18:01 | khall | nice! |
18:05 | tcohen | ouch, bug in testBuilder |
18:11 | how do I ask if a column is a primary key for a table in DBIX? | |
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18:37 | indradg | kia ora |
18:38 | i've a question for perl and QA gurus here... why is 'console.log' deemed as forbidden in the qa-tools? | |
18:39 | because it is a statement used for debugging mostly? | |
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19:17 | tcohen | bye #koha |
19:22 | pianohacker | cait: well, sure, if I want to be boring about it... |
19:22 | cait | the one thing at a time? heh |
19:23 | just worried to get the qa queue filled up again i guess :) | |
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19:37 | pianohacker | cait: there'll only be maybe 4 bugs |
19:37 | they'll just all be gigantic :) | |
19:37 | cait | yeah... that's the problem about them |
19:37 | i have a strong dislike for gigantic bugs | |
19:38 | gigantic = painful testing | |
19:38 | pianohacker | yeah... |
19:38 | and some, you can chop up, but rancor is this big lump of stuff | |
19:39 | indradg: I'd say that's right | |
19:39 | usually a sign you forgot something | |
19:40 | and if there isn't a global console object, which there might not be if firebug/devtools/etc. isn't active, it can cause the JS to fail | |
19:40 | indradg | thanks pianohacker, coz I see a console.log call also in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/quotes.tt |
19:41 | found that while grepping for console in bug 13219 | |
19:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13219 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Add graphs to guided reports |
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19:43 | drojf | evening #koha |
19:48 | cait | hi drojf :) |
19:48 | indradg | evening drojf :) |
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20:01 | drojf | hi cait and indradg :) |
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20:20 | tcohen | hi there |
20:25 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
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20:50 | rangi | morning |
20:51 | cait | morning rangi |
20:51 | drojf | morning rangi. and good night #koha |
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21:01 | tcohen | hi rangi |
21:01 | i had something to talk with you, and I just forgot | |
21:07 | rangi | hehe |
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21:42 | rangi | wizzyrea: wanna try a push to 3.18 now? |
21:42 | wizzyrea | I will give it a go :) |
21:43 | tcohen | wizzyrea++ |
21:45 | wizzyrea | what's the correct push url |
21:46 | git+ssh://git.koha-community.org/ ??? /koha.git 3.18.x | |
21:46 | or no +ssh | |
21:46 | tcohen | wizzyrea: have you seen the wiki? |
21:46 | rangi | git push gitmastergit.koha-community.org:koha.git 3.18.x:3.18.x |
21:46 | wizzyrea | oh |
21:46 | ha | |
21:46 | tcohen | release maintenance? |
21:47 | wizzyrea | well, clearly not :P |
21:47 | but will go look it up now | |
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21:47 | tcohen | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lease_maintenance |
21:48 | that wiki can be enhanced | |
21:48 | but should be a good starting point | |
21:48 | wizzyrea | yeah, I've been using bz to apply my patches rather than cherry pick |
21:48 | git-bz apply -s xxxxx | |
21:48 | unless there's a reason not to do it that way | |
21:49 | cait | sometimes the rm does follow-ups |
21:49 | hm and database update changes | |
21:49 | * tcohen | hides |
21:49 | cait | those are not on bugzilla |
21:49 | wizzyrea | yeah I haven't had to do any of those yet. |
21:50 | cait | hm not sure... cherry pick might have some history where it got picked from? |
21:50 | rangi? tcohen? | |
21:51 | rangi | yep i do cherry-pick -x |
21:51 | tcohen | we recommend using cherry-pick -x which puts the hash of the cherry picked commit on the commit message |
21:52 | that ^^^ | |
21:52 | wizzyrea | well ok then |
21:52 | rangi | you keep the extra signoff too that way |
21:52 | not that that matters too much | |
21:52 | sometimes you have to apply, some things are your branch only, but that's pretty rare | |
21:56 | tcohen | has anyone written kohadevbox using ansible? |
21:58 | cait | hm? |
21:59 | tcohen | don't worry cait, it will take me too little amount of time :-P |
21:59 | cait | *confused* |
22:00 | tcohen | cait: have you used kohadevbox? |
22:00 | cait | not yet |
22:00 | i should i think :) | |
22:00 | * magnuse | waves :-) |
22:00 | cait | heya magnuse :) |
22:00 | tcohen | it creates a virtual machine |
22:00 | and runs some scripts that set a koha dev environment | |
22:00 | hi magnuse | |
22:02 | cait: those shell scripts could just be ansible roles/tasks | |
22:03 | * tcohen | thinks we could even ship the Vagrantfile with Koha's source |
22:03 | tcohen | O_o |
22:03 | cait | don#t get overboard :) |
22:03 | wasn't your project of the week something else? | |
22:03 | * magnuse | cheers tcohen on |
22:04 | magnuse | plack? |
22:04 | tcohen | almost there :-P |
22:04 | got a bit distracted today | |
22:04 | magnuse | yay! |
22:05 | distractions-- | |
22:05 | tcohen | magnuse: this one was a good one |
22:05 | =D | |
22:06 | magnuse | yay |
22:07 | tcohen | magnuse: do you know if kohadevbox would accept pull requests? |
22:08 | magnuse | yeah, if i accept them :-) |
22:08 | cait | magnuse: we need to keep him focused ;) |
22:08 | magnuse | hehe |
22:09 | tcohen | cait: i need kohadevbox for that job you're waiting for :-D |
22:09 | magnuse: i just found that an NFS mount is way faster than the crappy VBox share | |
22:09 | really faster | |
22:10 | magnuse | yeah the current kohadevbox is not very fast |
22:10 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "magnuse: this makes a difference" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/127 |
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22:13 | tcohen | need to close the computer lid and enjoy family, see u #koha |
22:14 | eythian | hi |
22:17 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
22:18 | @wunder boo | |
22:18 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (11:50 PM CEST on June 02, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
22:18 | magnuse | @wunder wellington, nz |
22:18 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:30 AM NZST on June 03, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
22:18 | eythian | hi magnuse. Been learning a lot about Norway lately from watching Lillyhammer. You seem to have a problem with organised crime. |
22:18 | wizzyrea | it was horrible earlier, but nice now |
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22:23 | magnuse | eythian: yeah, Lillyhammer gives you a completely true picture of norwegian society :-) |
22:23 | eythian | magnuse: good, that's what I thought. |
22:24 | it's either that or multi-day camera-on-a-boat things, I guess. | |
22:24 | magnuse | yeah, that's us |
22:24 | slow tv | |
22:25 | gah, i'm getting the thing where the koha-* scripts think zebra is not runing, even if it is | |
22:26 | eythian | koha-stop-zebra, pkill zebra, koha-start-zebra |
22:27 | I'd quite like to know how it gets into that state. | |
22:27 | magnuse | yeah, wouldn't hurt if we could find a way to avoid it |
22:34 | eythian | magnuse: where's your bug about automatically upgrading the koha-conf.xml on package updates? |
22:37 | magnuse | in bugzilla? ;-) |
22:37 | bug 12584 | |
22:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12584 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-conf.xml for package installations get out of sync |
22:37 | eythian | that's where I got to, too. |
22:37 | ah, ta | |
22:38 | cait | hm didn't we fix fr apache 2.4? |
22:38 | bug 14317 | |
22:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14317 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Apache 2.4 Directory config needs Require all granted |
22:40 | eythian | cait: I think so. |
22:41 | at least, I'm pretty sure a package install works on 2.4, though I haven't looked in a while. | |
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22:45 | magnuse | kia ora akafred |
22:45 | * cait | waves and vanishes |
22:45 | cait left #koha | |
22:48 | * magnuse | wonders what will last longer - reindexing or the laptop battery |
22:48 | rangi | im betting on the indexing |
22:49 | heh | |
22:49 | https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]-an-xml-attribute | |
22:49 | ashimema asked a question and the answer is what i wanted to know | |
22:51 | magnuse | small world, eh? :-) |
22:52 | hm, when it says "00:28:32-03/06 zebraidx(25646) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]" is it working on the indexing or has it stalled? i miss the progress indicator during the indexing phase... | |
22:53 | eythian | hmm |
22:53 | I wouldn't expect it to be a good sign | |
22:53 | and yeah, losing the progress was annoying | |
22:53 | should make a wget-style metre thing to show it. | |
22:54 | wizzyrea | -v -v |
22:54 | ? | |
22:54 | two v's usually gets you the progress indicator | |
22:54 | it's double verbose! | |
22:55 | you mean the 100/200/300 thing right? | |
22:55 | with the dots? | |
22:56 | eythian | iirc the export talks to you, but the indexing is silent unless you put enough -v in that it dumps debug data at you |
22:57 | wizzyrea | ah right, different stage, as you were. |
22:57 | eythian | used to be the indexing would give you a count |
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23:13 | magnuse | have fun #koha |
23:23 | rangi | cya magnuse |
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23:25 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
23:25 | @seen aleisha | |
23:25 | huginn | mtompset: aleisha was last seen in #koha 5 days, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <aleisha> how can i get a Debian Jessie box? |
23:27 | rangi | she only works a few hours a week |
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