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| 00:39 | mario joined #koha | |
| 01:04 | eythian | I've had no list messages since Sunday. Is this expected? |
| 01:05 | hmm | |
| 01:05 | the archices show things, but very few replies. | |
| 01:05 | *archives | |
| 01:05 | that seems a bit suspect. | |
| 01:08 | wahanui: ping | |
| 01:08 | wahanui | Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658 |
| 01:14 | rangi | liw: http://vaarakirjastot.fi/web/english/program |
| 01:37 | mtj | hey #koha... |
| 01:37 | wahanui | it has been said that #koha is all kinds of good drugs today |
| 01:38 | mtj | rangi: looks amazing ^ |
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| 03:21 | eythian | http://theuserisdrunk.com/ |
| 03:22 | rangi | heh |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea | i would fear for koha. |
| 03:25 | maybe not the opac. | |
| 03:25 | let's get the drunk guy to tell us about acquisitions. | |
| 03:25 | oh oh or the label maker. | |
| 03:25 | rangi | he cant make it any less complicated than the librarians tell us to make it that's for sure |
| 03:25 | wizzyrea | TRUE. |
| 03:32 | bag | oh that would be brilliant |
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| 04:19 | eythian | git is applying patches to the wrong file in a rebase. That's very annoying. |
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| 04:28 | AmitG | chris around? |
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| 06:56 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:11 | liw | rangi, ooh, interesting |
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| 07:27 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 07:29 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 07:29 | drojf | hei magnuse |
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| 08:02 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:14 | fridolin | hie |
| 08:14 | cait | hi fridolin :) |
| 08:21 | Joubu | o/ |
| 08:21 | cait | hi Joubu :) |
| 08:22 | are you on a mission with the old bugs? | |
| 08:22 | Joubu | cait: yep :) |
| 08:22 | magnuse | Joubu++ |
| 08:22 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 08:22 | Joubu | some are really easy to fix and are there for so long |
| 08:23 | cait | true |
| 08:23 | very glad to see them go | |
| 08:23 | * cait | grumps because for some reason she can#t access her bug mail from work these days :( |
| 08:24 | Joubu | cait: so, what about bug 4137? |
| 08:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4137 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , OPACViewOthersSuggestions does not work |
| 08:24 | Joubu | I don't know how it should work, so it's difficult to fix it :) |
| 08:24 | cait | good question - i think we need to know what people expect of AnonSuggestions |
| 08:24 | yeah, it's either one way or the other | |
| 08:25 | or adding an option ot have both *shudder* | |
| 08:25 | magnuse: opinion on bug 4137? | |
| 08:32 | magnuse | nah, sorry |
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| 08:36 | cait | huh |
| 08:36 | my computer just shut itself off | |
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| 08:36 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:42 | nlegrand | hey #koha |
| 08:43 | cait | hi nlegrand |
| 08:47 | magnuse | cait: windows installing updates for you? |
| 08:47 | bonjour gaetan_B and nlegrand | |
| 08:48 | cait: i think i would expect AnonSuggestions to let non-loggedin users post purchase suggestions | |
| 08:48 | and i would expect OPACViewOthersSuggestions to let me see suggestions that others have made | |
| 08:49 | and i would expect suggestions from others to always be anonymized (not linked to a patron) | |
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| 08:53 | magnuse | hiya atheia! |
| 08:54 | atheia | Hello magnuse! |
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| 09:11 | Joubu | cait: since the begining (2007), the "my suggestions" tab is hidden if AnonSuggestions is set... |
| 09:14 | nlegrand | hey cait o/ |
| 09:14 | god morgen magnuse o/ | |
| 09:47 | cait | Joubu: gah? |
| 09:48 | Joubu | cait: ok I will reintroduce it |
| 09:48 | cait: Another question :) If AnonSuggestions= 1 but OPACViewOthersSuggestions=0 | |
| 09:48 | cait | magnuse: not sure i understand your third sentence - do you man for display or in the database? |
| 09:48 | Joubu | a non logged in user should not be able to see suggestions from anonymouspatron, do you agree? |
| 09:48 | cait | what i'd expect (and hopefully not wrong) is show in opac navigation and set the borrowernumber to the anonymous patron |
| 09:49 | and don't show suggestions made? i guess | |
| 09:49 | Joubu: yes... i think i do | |
| 09:49 | Joubu | k |
| 09:50 | cait | Joubu: not sure if we could get someone else to look at this before you change lots of things hm |
| 09:50 | Joubu | I won't change lots of things :) |
| 09:50 | cait | ok :) |
| 09:51 | Joubu | cait: you, sophie, laurence and me agree. It should not be so bad |
| 09:51 | magnuse | cait: in the display |
| 09:52 | * magnuse | glares at bug 12488 |
| 09:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12488 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl -d option should use DELETE instead of TRUNCATE |
| 09:52 | cait | Joubu: cool :) |
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| 10:07 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
| 10:13 | khall | mornin #koha! |
| 10:15 | cait | mornin khall :) |
| 10:15 | khall | mornin cait! |
| 10:17 | magnuse | kia ora khall |
| 10:18 | khall | mornin magnuse! |
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| 10:32 | cait | morning ashimema ;) |
| 10:32 | ashimema_ | hi ciat |
| 10:32 | hi cait.. even | |
| 10:33 | magnuse | kia roa ashimema_ |
| 10:34 | lunchtime! | |
| 10:34 | wahanui | lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
| 10:34 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:36 | ashimema | ohh.. two clients. |
| 10:36 | oops | |
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| 10:52 | AmitG | hi |
| 10:52 | indradg | |
| 10:52 | indradg | AmitG: yep |
| 11:08 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 11:45 | ashimema | a couple of additional thoughts on the api rfc: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]14460&oldid=14336 |
| 11:47 | kivilahtio | Doesn anybody know if it is possible to change the Environment time for Perl, so I could test Koha as if I was in the future or past? |
| 11:47 | so localtime() or time() would return time with some offset | |
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| 12:50 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:52 | cait | h tcohen :) |
| 12:53 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 12:54 | p_vdk | Hello |
| 12:54 | cait | hi p_vdk :) |
| 12:54 | p_vdk | hi cait! |
| 12:57 | cait | @seen oleonard |
| 12:57 | huginn | cait: oleonard was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on. |
| 12:58 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 12:58 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 14.0°C (9:55 AM ART on March 25, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:02 | ashimema | what's happened to oleanard? |
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| 13:03 | Joubu | ashimema: he posted a comment on a bug this morning :) |
| 13:05 | ashimema | no irc though it seems. |
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| 13:15 | Joubu | ashimema: the comment said "I am really busy atm" |
| 13:15 | tcohen | hi ashimema |
| 13:15 | hi Joubu | |
| 13:15 | Joubu | Hi tcohen! |
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| 13:43 | ashimema | bug 13810 |
| 13:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13810 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Prevent updatedatabase.pl from breaking because of case insensitive utf8 collation |
| 13:43 | ashimema | fun |
| 13:51 | kivilahtio | Joubu: khall: Could you please comment this 5row commit? Bug 13905. Don't sign it off or anythinig, just asking if it is a sane way of fetching the count? |
| 13:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13905 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Wrapping DBIx count inside Koha Object |
| 13:53 | khall | kivilahtio: I'm not understanding the purpose of adding count() to a singular object, when you can already call count on an object set ( Koha::Objects ) |
| 13:53 | kivilahtio | you can? |
| 13:53 | khall | yes, look at Koha/Objects.pm |
| 13:54 | kivilahtio | hmm how did I miss that |
| 13:54 | khall: want to take a peek at my TestObjectFactories? | |
| 13:54 | khall | what's the bug number? |
| 13:54 | kivilahtio | khall: Nice Factory classes for generating test objects, from hashes or from preconfigured test groups |
| 13:54 | I am applying it | |
| 13:54 | erm attaching it | |
| 13:54 | khall | sounds intriguing |
| 13:55 | kivilahtio | just curious if you could take a peek and would find it interesting to easuly create borrowers and biblios and issues and lettertemplates and and and |
| 13:55 | ill share the initial commit | |
| 13:55 | brb | |
| 13:59 | khall: Bug 13906 | |
| 13:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, In Discussion , TestObjectFactory(ies) for Koha objects. Enable easy Test object creation from HASHes or from preconfigured test groups. |
| 13:59 | kivilahtio | Joubu: Bug 13906 |
| 14:01 | I am currently calling those test factories from Cucumber tests | |
| 14:02 | I haven't tested those example groups since i refactored the Cucumber tests out of them, having realized the tests wouldnt be as descriptive | |
| 14:02 | with hidden test grouos, vs explicitly defined test objects | |
| 14:03 | khall | I do like the idea of having canned bibs, patrons, etc. ready to go and to use in unit tests |
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| 14:07 | kivilahtio | khall: I am writing those Cucumber tests, which are pretty awesome. To make them maintainable and easy to define I need a clean way of dealing with context |
| 14:07 | khall | nice! |
| 14:07 | kivilahtio | khall: What I was hoping is that somebody else would as well use those Factories when writing tests |
| 14:08 | khall | I imagine I would |
| 14:08 | kivilahtio | cool |
| 14:08 | khall: I think they are still taking shape and need documentation | |
| 14:09 | khall: But if somebody other than me would use them as well we might get some more use cases onthose factories and could see how well they work outside of the overdues module | |
| 14:10 | Maybe this is something I could present during the next developer IRC meeting? | |
| 14:10 | I wonder when that is held | |
| 14:10 | But writing tests with those is soooo mcuh more convenient than the Koha-way | |
| 14:11 | I'll share my cukes soon nad boy they are nice :) | |
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| 14:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13801: svc/bib - Set charset to utf-8 on printing header <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]96d4ae0de454466ef> / Bug 12820: [QA Followup] Tab and whitespace cleanup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc46b97caf907dc10> / Bug 12820: Handle rental fees in Sip issue and renew <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko |
| 14:35 | gerundio | is there anyway to simply reset zebra indexes without reindexing? |
| 14:36 | rebuild_zebra.pl script enforces "Must specify -b or -a to reindex bibs or authorities" | |
| 14:36 | is there a workaround for this? | |
| 14:38 | I found this: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n/resetzebra.html | |
| 14:43 | Joubu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwBhxBBa7tE |
| 14:45 | nengard | git experts I need you help :) |
| 14:46 | one of my branches of the manual is totally screwy on my system - how do i grab a fresh copy of it? | |
| 14:46 | I tried deleting the branch, creating the branch and pulling the branch but it's still showing things that don't belong | |
| 14:48 | Joubu | nengard: you can checkout the files (git checkout files list), or stash the changes (git stash), or reset --hard HEAD (BUT only if you need what it does, ie. will delete all your local changes) |
| 14:49 | actually reset - - hard remote_branch_name | |
| 14:52 | nengard | oh ... maybe i'll try that last one |
| 14:52 | see this makes no sense : Nicole-Pro:manual nengard$ git reset --hard manual3.16.x | |
| 14:52 | HEAD is now at d3f1fc9 add links to cron to usagestats prefs | |
| 14:52 | because that commit isn't on that branch - i just checked | |
| 14:52 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eads/manual3.16.x | |
| 14:54 | i have nothing locally i want to save to that branch - i want it to match the git repo exactly | |
| 14:54 | cait | woohooo bug 5786 |
| 14:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Move AllowOnShelfHolds and OpacItemHolds system preferences to the Circulation Matrix |
| 14:55 | nengard | SO EXCITING!!!! |
| 14:58 | Joubu | nengard: what is manual3.16.x? It's a local branch |
| 14:59 | nengard | both local and remote |
| 14:59 | Joubu | nengard: to refer to the remote branch, you need to specify the remote |
| 14:59 | nengard | oh okay - what part do i change? |
| 14:59 | Joubu | git reset --hard remote/branch |
| 15:00 | (last time I helped someone with git, he lost data...) | |
| 15:00 | nengard | uh oh :) hehe - no biggy i have no data to lose in this one |
| 15:01 | Nicole-Pro:manual nengard$ git reset --hard remote/manual3.16.x | |
| 15:01 | fatal: ambiguous argument 'remote/manual3.16.x': unknown revision or path not in the working tree. | |
| 15:01 | Joubu | nengard: git remote -v should list the remotes |
| 15:01 | the remote is certainly 'origin' | |
| 15:02 | so git stash; # optional | |
| 15:02 | git checkout -b 3.16.x origin/3.16.x # should do the job | |
| 15:02 | git checkout -b 3.16.x origin/manual3.16.x # if the remote branch is manual3.16.x | |
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| 15:10 | Joubu | mveron++ |
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| 15:16 | nengard | sorry had a phone call - am back - reading up |
| 15:18 | Joubu all better!!! | |
| 15:20 | Joubu | nengard: great :) Don't forget to specify the remote's name if you want to point to a remote branch. |
| 15:20 | nengard | makes sense |
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| 15:36 | mveron | Hi #Koha |
| 15:36 | @wunder Allschwil | |
| 15:36 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 6.0°C (4:30 PM CET on March 25, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:38 | Joubu | mveron: thanks for your signoffs :) |
| 15:38 | cait | hi mveron :) |
| 15:38 | mveron | Joubu: De rien... :-) |
| 15:39 | Hi cait :-) | |
| 15:41 | * mveron | likes to see vanish low bug numbers... |
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| 15:42 | cait | me too :) |
| 15:53 | ashimema | awesome! bug 5786 |
| 15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Move AllowOnShelfHolds and OpacItemHolds system preferences to the Circulation Matrix |
| 15:53 | cait | yep :) |
| 15:53 | ashimema | and now I wan't some further enhancements to it ;) |
| 15:53 | cait | me too |
| 15:53 | if you plan something let me know | |
| 15:53 | will work on spec soon | |
| 15:53 | ashimema | be great to add branch level rules ;) |
| 15:53 | cait | hm? |
| 15:54 | ashimema | I'll get janet to forward her wishlist to you ;) |
| 15:54 | cait | that'd be cool |
| 15:55 | ashimema | just forwarded her mail to you regarding that bug.. |
| 15:55 | i was going to submit it as a bug some time | |
| 16:01 | gerundio | regarding this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9453 |
| 16:01 | huginn | 04Bug 9453: enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Failed QA , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference |
| 16:02 | gerundio | I ran the script I created on a testing environment and all fre occurrences where updated to the value I inserted into the UNIMARCField100Language system prefence |
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| 16:03 | nengard | everytime i upgrade koha now i get this error: Cannot open log file /home/nengard/koha-dev/var/log/updatedatabase_2015-03-25T11:02:58.log: No such file or directory at /home/nengard/kohaclone/installer/install.pl line 332 -- how do I fix it? |
| 16:03 | gerundio | nevertheless, after reindexing Zebra the results for find queries on yaz-client still show the 'fre' string |
| 16:03 | even though the database records have the new value | |
| 16:04 | at least the "marc" and "marcxml" fields in the "biblioitems" table | |
| 16:04 | is this value stored elsewhere? | |
| 16:06 | btw, in "et/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml", next to the field 100 indexes it states | |
| 16:06 | "Language of cataloguing (mandatory) 3 22-24 do not index in ln" | |
| 16:07 | and there's no <index_subfields> relating to that offset in the 100$a subfield | |
| 16:10 | cait | ashimema: which email did you use? |
| 16:10 | ashimema | de |
| 16:12 | personal one I think | |
| 16:12 | cait | nengard: wait for the fix tomake it into Koha |
| 16:12 | nengard | oh okay |
| 16:12 | so it's a known bug - good to know | |
| 16:12 | cait | nengard: what i do is revert the change that broke it... but that's a bit drastic :) |
| 16:13 | bug 13875 | |
| 16:13 | nengard | no need i can upgrade via the command line |
| 16:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13875 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Columns configuration - table name cannot contain underscore |
| 16:13 | cait | arg |
| 16:13 | bug 13876 | |
| 16:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13876 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Permission issues on updating via installer - dev installations |
| 16:13 | nengard | :) |
| 16:13 | cait | the secone one... obviously |
| 16:14 | nengard | yup |
| 16:14 | at least it has a bug report | |
| 16:21 | * mveron | has to go to buy a new coffee machine... |
| 16:33 | * fridolin | releasing 3.14.14 |
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| 17:13 | cait | fridolin++ |
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| 18:07 | * cait | waves |
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| 18:19 | tcohen | khall: do u know what routine calculates fines in days? |
| 18:19 | khall | no, but I can find out! |
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| 18:31 | tcohen | khall: the fines in days are calculated when checking in, but the CalcFine and UpdateFine routines seem to talk about accountlines only |
| 18:33 | actually, do we have a table for suspension days? | |
| 18:33 | khall | right, give me a few minutes and I'll find you an answer |
| 18:33 | no, it creates a debarment I think | |
| 18:33 | I'll have more answers soon | |
| 18:35 | tcohen | borrower_debarments |
| 18:35 | khall | right |
| 18:37 | _debar_user_on_return | |
| 18:37 | called by AddReturn | |
| 18:37 | both are in C4::Circulation | |
| 18:38 | it creates a unique debarment of the type SUSPENSION | |
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| 18:51 | tcohen | it seems to do some weird calculation |
| 18:54 | _debar_user_on_return should be using _get_chargeable_units | |
| 18:54 | and it isn't | |
| 18:56 | its Joubu's fault :-P | |
| 19:23 | * tcohen | hates needing to think of duration units :-P |
| 19:26 | cait | what are we blaming Joubu for? :) |
| 19:27 | tcohen | 13909 |
| 19:28 | is not really Joubu's fault, just joking | |
| 19:31 | i fixed it on a branch bug_13909_suspension_calculation on my github | |
| 19:32 | will try to write some regression tests at home | |
| 19:32 | bye! | |
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| 19:35 | andreashm | mjello |
| 19:37 | cait | :) |
| 19:38 | brb | |
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| 20:00 | andreashm | so, bug 5786 pushed to master. this will allow placing holds on onshelf items according to itemtype, yes? |
| 20:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 new feature, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Move AllowOnShelfHolds and OpacItemHolds system preferences to the Circulation Matrix |
| 20:01 | cait | andreashm: yes |
| 20:02 | andreashm: there is one catch for us still with allowonshelfholds... that one checked out item of the defined combination is enough to 'unlock' holds for that combination - but this is a great first step | |
| 20:03 | rangi | morning |
| 20:04 | cait | morning rangi |
| 20:07 | andreashm | cait: sounds great |
| 20:07 | cait | i made a happy dance today :) |
| 20:07 | andreashm | cait: haha |
| 20:08 | cait | waited for this one for quite a while |
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| 20:19 | andreashm | anyone know if ResourceSync is actually used to harvest metadata somewhere, or if it's just OAI-PMH or pubsubhubbub (if even that?). |
| 20:20 | or any other protocol/application I should look at? | |
| 20:20 | (I'm thinking on how to integrate Koha with the Swedish union catalog) | |
| 20:21 | cait | andreashm: where is the cataloguing done in your model? |
| 20:21 | andreashm | Libris, the union catalog |
| 20:22 | cait | hm what we do is a nightly import + z39.50 |
| 20:22 | andreashm | at least the bibliographic info. holdings and items are up for debate. |
| 20:22 | cait | i tihnk there is something for worldcat that works more immediate |
| 20:23 | we have the holdings only in koha - there is only some basic entry that the library has the book in our union catalog | |
| 20:23 | so that the scripts know we want updates for those... and also ILL etc. | |
| 20:23 | andreashm | cait: nightly imports can be done know. we are thinking of a better solution. |
| 20:23 | cait | i understand :) |
| 20:23 | maybe lok at the way the worldcat integration was done? | |
| 20:24 | andreashm | I'll try to do that. |
| 20:24 | cait | andreashm: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/OCLC_Connexion |
| 20:26 | hm that's not the one i was looking for actually | |
| 20:27 | andreashm: i think it was this: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]oclcappendix.html | |
| 20:27 | afaikt you click ona button in the cataloguing client and the record ends up in koha | |
| 20:28 | it uses the staging process | |
| 20:28 | you coudl also add records using the restful api - we do that for ILL records | |
| 20:29 | andreashm | cait: they seem to have something called OCLC Connextion. Not an open protocol so not so interesting. |
| 20:29 | cait | i think the interesting bits are the parts in koha for that |
| 20:30 | andreashm | ah. |
| 20:30 | cait | rangi: do you know how it works? |
| 20:30 | how it sees there is a new record to import? | |
| 20:30 | rangi | naw |
| 20:30 | no idea | |
| 20:30 | i tend not to bother learning about proprietary stuff | |
| 20:31 | cait | heh |
| 20:31 | rangi | unless someone pays me to |
| 20:31 | cait | i thought srdjan wrote it :) |
| 20:31 | rangi | not me |
| 20:31 | cait | ok |
| 20:31 | i am not interested in the proprietary bits so much | |
| 20:31 | but the idea to have a script that somehow sees there is a new record to import... that's interesting | |
| 20:33 | rangi | im pretty sure its a bywater thing |
| 20:34 | and you do it from oclc | |
| 20:34 | ie koha doesnt find out | |
| 20:34 | you do something in connexion, and it uses the svc/import_bib to push the biblio into koh | |
| 20:34 | cait | yeah.. but i thik you could build something similar |
| 20:34 | rangi | a |
| 20:34 | cait | a similar service |
| 20:35 | andreashm | sounds better to have a metadata harvetser/webhook kind of thing. |
| 20:35 | bag | doesn’t marcedit use the same service? |
| 20:35 | cait | it listens... to something... not sure what |
| 20:35 | rangi | yes |
| 20:35 | nothing is listening tho, its pushing, not pulling | |
| 20:35 | cait | andreashm: koha can't harvest currently |
| 20:35 | andreashm | cait: I know. |
| 20:35 | But that could be worked on, if it is deemed a viable approach. | |
| 20:36 | cait | true |
| 20:36 | rangi | acttually if you look in misc/bin/connexion_import_daemon.pl |
| 20:36 | andreashm | bug 10662 for instance |
| 20:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P1 - high, ---, dcook, ASSIGNED , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
| 20:37 | rangi | its incredibly specific to oclc, but could work for others i guess .. its still not pull tho, still push from oclc |
| 20:37 | cait | hm yeah |
| 20:37 | whatever you do... you need the harvesting bi | |
| 20:37 | b | |
| 20:37 | bit | |
| 20:37 | andreashm | pubsubhubbub sounds (except for the name) like a better solution. I'm usure of how much it's used/developed though. (just like ResourceSync) |
| 20:38 | cait | need to build something that gets you the records and then... push it to the rest api |
| 20:38 | bug 7613 btw | |
| 20:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, druthb, CLOSED FIXED, OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib |
| 20:44 | andreashm | on a completely different topic, what is the point of biblioitems really? why not just have biblios and item? |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | it's a vestige of early Koha |
| 20:45 | rangi | when storing MARC natively was added, it was done in a way that broke the normalisation of data |
| 20:45 | you'll notice isbn, edition, volume etc is at biblioitem level | |
| 20:46 | in koha up until 2.0.0 | |
| 20:46 | you could have one biblio, many biblioitems, and many items | |
| 20:46 | so you could do things that you still cant properly do now | |
| 20:46 | like place a hold on all large print versions of a book, but not the paperbacks etc | |
| 20:47 | by placing the hold at the biblioitem level | |
| 20:47 | now its 1-1-many | |
| 20:47 | * cait | is not sure that would have passed qa today ;) |
| 20:47 | andreashm | so historically there was a reason for it, but not so much now? |
| 20:48 | cait | breaking that |
| 20:48 | rangi | now its because removing it would gain pretty much nothing for end users |
| 20:48 | but probably break a zillion things | |
| 20:48 | it'd be a good project for someone who had the time to do it properly | |
| 20:50 | cait | Joubu++ for fixing a bug i reported in 2010 |
| 20:50 | rangi | code refactoring is good in theory, in practice .. it goes horribly wrong more times than not, because people rush it |
| 20:50 | cait | small steps is key |
| 20:51 | rangi | Joubu++ |
| 20:54 | andreashm | we where looking at "Koha to Marc mapping" today, trying to figure out why stuff is done the way it is. this explains a lot, thanks. |
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| 20:56 | rangi | andreashm: from about 2001 http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]otos/moving-items |
| 20:58 | cait | i love the colors |
| 20:58 | nengard | wow |
| 20:58 | cait | kyle showed me a screenshot of the first tabs in koha |
| 20:59 | was quite colorful too | |
| 20:59 | wnickc | doesn't the separation of biblioitems/biblio sort of leave the door open for FRBR? or would that be a different approach |
| 20:59 | rangi | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]ohaphotos/reserve |
| 20:59 | thes colours were better | |
| 20:59 | thats what biblioitems allowed you to do | |
| 21:00 | indradg | hi |
| 21:00 | wahanui | kia ora, indradg |
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| 21:01 | rangi | wnickc: it was frbr, before we knew what frbr was :) |
| 21:01 | cait: first tabs? | |
| 21:02 | andreashm | rangi: haha, cool to see. |
| 21:02 | indradg | peeps, I know what to do when I wish to do multi-tenanted hosting on a stable version of Koha - separate koha-create calls along with dns entries to map the vhosts, and accordingly updated in respective koha-httpd.conf |
| 21:02 | cait | rangi: not sure it were the very first |
| 21:02 | indradg | but what is the best approach to take when working with git |
| 21:02 | cait | was a reserve screen too i think |
| 21:03 | rangi | indradg: this is for dev only eh? cos you arent crazy enough to do prodcution with git? :) |
| 21:03 | indradg | rangi: dev only |
| 21:03 | rangi | id still use the koha-create |
| 21:03 | and then use koha-gitify | |
| 21:04 | they could all share a git clone, or they could all have separate ones, up to you | |
| 21:04 | indradg | basically separate clients who would like to see what is happening on their money... until |
| 21:04 | it is production ready | |
| 21:04 | ok! i got it! | |
| 21:05 | thanks rangi :) | |
| 21:05 | rangi | no worries |
| 21:09 | wnickc | rangi: can we get it back? assuming it would be neither free nor easy, but would it be acceptable? |
| 21:10 | rangi | i think we would do it in a different way now, and would be coordinated with the intergration of sane^H^H^H^H non-marc data also |
| 21:10 | (and the rdf/semantic stuff) | |
| 21:12 | but definitely, if we want people to keep using libraries | |
| 21:12 | we have to to get something like frbr | |
| 21:12 | wnickc | I think we do want patrons |
| 21:12 | rangi | i dont use my local library |
| 21:12 | because i cant find a damn thing with their catalogue | |
| 21:12 | wnickc | thwey don't use koha? |
| 21:12 | rangi | nope |
| 21:13 | wnickc | :( |
| 21:13 | rangi | but yeah, when i want a copy of two towers |
| 21:13 | i dont really care if its hardback or paperback or the reprint with a foreward | |
| 21:13 | i dont want to have to place 3 different holds | |
| 21:13 | and then cancel 2 when one comes in etc | |
| 21:14 | wnickc | yes, though I prefer that problem to the people who won't take the paperback |
| 21:15 | frbr would make things os much more pleasant | |
| 21:15 | though everything makes new problems too | |
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| 21:15 | andreashm | rangi: academic libraries would se that a liiitle bit differently. =) |
| 21:16 | cait | heh yeah |
| 21:16 | wnickc | ideally it would allow for both though |
| 21:16 | andreashm | wnickc: absolutely. |
| 21:16 | rangi | yeah, i could just choose the one i want |
| 21:16 | too | |
| 21:16 | (if you saw the screen shot) | |
| 21:17 | at the moment, kinda can half do either .. not well | |
| 21:17 | (still better than a lot of other ILS but thats a pretty incredibly low bar) | |
| 21:18 | wnickc | hah |
| 21:18 | rangi | i think the lowest UX rating a site could get is "It's more usable than most OPACs" next one up is "It doesn't actively punch me in the face when i try to use it" |
| 21:18 | andreashm | haha |
| 21:22 | eythian | hi |
| 21:22 | wahanui | what's up, eythian |
| 21:23 | rangi | https://www.catalyst.net.nz/sh[…]tance-upstreaming |
| 21:23 | wnickc | did I break somethign? My VM dies when I do a search in OPAC if logged in "No branchcode in Reserves.pm" |
| 21:23 | cait | hm |
| 21:24 | did you change a pref setting maybe? | |
| 21:24 | last i saw that is ages ago... was a bug in singlebranchmode | |
| 21:25 | wnickc | i have changed many preferences :) |
| 21:25 | cait | probably something else now |
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| 21:28 | eythian | your VM actually dies? |
| 21:28 | because that ain't likely to be a koha problem | |
| 21:28 | wnickc | no, sorry, just won't perform a search |
| 21:33 | * cait | should probably stay away from patches tonight |
| 21:33 | breaks all the things | |
| 21:34 | eythian | http://media.giphy.com/media/P[…]wdG7Icw/giphy.gif <-- this is cait |
| 21:34 | cait | :P |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 21:34 | cait | that's not very flattering :) |
| 21:35 | eythian | hey, it was you saying that you break all the things! |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | this is cait *now* http://i.imgur.com/GoWMbeP.gif |
| 21:35 | eythian | I was just providing visual aids! |
| 21:37 | cait | heh |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | yay I got karma! |
| 21:38 | cait | i don't think you need me for that |
| 21:40 | * cait | glares a little at eythian |
| 21:40 | eythian | eythian±± |
| 21:40 | cait | big yellow bird?? |
| 21:40 | eythian | you ... don't know bigbird? |
| 21:40 | what happened to your childhood? | |
| 21:40 | cait | lol |
| 21:40 | bag | bigbird? |
| 21:40 | wnickc | hrm...all good if I checkout 3.18.x |
| 21:41 | cait | hm |
| 21:41 | eythian | You never watched Sesamstrasse? |
| 21:41 | cait | wnickc: what are the steps that lead to the error? |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | big bird is from S... that. |
| 21:41 | cait | eythian: um... not really |
| 21:41 | wnickc | log in to opac |
| 21:41 | search | |
| 21:41 | tcohen | hi |
| 21:41 | cait | hi tcohen |
| 21:42 | wnickc | I am logging in with superlibrarian |
| 21:42 | cait | hmmm works ok for me |
| 21:42 | logged in, searched, detail view | |
| 21:42 | wnickc | yeah, it's me |
| 21:43 | eythian | wnickc: super librarian, or database user? |
| 21:43 | wnickc | superlibrarian |
| 21:43 | wahanui | superlibrarian is probably one of the permissions |
| 21:43 | eythian | (though, searching should work anyway) |
| 21:43 | cait | hm maybe your logs have something useful? |
| 21:43 | wnickc | Yeah no homebranch at ...Reserves.pm |
| 21:44 | cait | placed a hold now too |
| 21:44 | all good | |
| 21:44 | wnickc: what's the full error? on which page does it appear? | |
| 21:45 | wnickc | one sec, patrons |
| 21:47 | * cait | passes a patch and wonders what she missed |
| 21:47 | cait | qa really makes you a bit paranoid i guess |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/dimi.gif |
| 21:48 | cait | lol |
| 21:48 | so i am abird. i get it . | |
| 21:48 | :) | |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 21:49 | wnickc | No homebranch at /home/nick/kohaclone/C4/Reserves.pm line 2157. |
| 21:49 | @ http://10.85.20.114/cgi-bin/ko[…]search.pl?q=shoes | |
| 21:49 | huginn | wnickc: I suck |
| 21:49 | p_vdk | Goodbye Koha |
| 21:49 | p_vdk left #koha | |
| 21:50 | cait | hmmmm weird |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | are you logging in as the database user? |
| 21:50 | cait | would that bring up more than one result? |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | or a regular user with superlibrarian permissions? |
| 21:50 | what is your username | |
| 21:51 | cait: no it just happens that 1. birds are adorable and 2. they happen to do funny things that seem appropriate to your expressed feelings ^.^ | |
| 21:51 | cait | :) |
| 21:51 | wnickc | both regular and superlibrarian |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | does the user have a branch assigned? |
| 21:51 | do you have branches defined? | |
| 21:51 | wnickc | search for 'a' returns all results, but can't make any other searches work |
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| 21:51 | cait | but htat works? |
| 21:52 | wnickc | branches, everything, staff clinet all fine |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | what happens with a clean db? |
| 21:52 | cait | aaah |
| 21:52 | i got it too | |
| 21:52 | it happens when it would redirect to a single result i think | |
| 21:52 | yep | |
| 21:52 | hm or not | |
| 21:53 | but i def see it suddenly now too | |
| 21:53 | wnickc | hmm..I get it for searches that would have multiples |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | does the result have reserves? |
| 21:53 | or one of the potential results? | |
| 21:53 | cait | really weird, i was testing tha tags patches earlier and did searches |
| 21:53 | and now it's just not working | |
| 21:53 | wnickc: think you are right... i don't really see a pattern yet | |
| 21:54 | * dcook | waves |
| 21:54 | cait | opac-search.pl: No homebranch at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Reserves.pm line 2157., referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/[…]pl?biblionumber=4 |
| 21:55 | wnickc | glad I am not alone, but sad I am not alone too |
| 21:55 | rangi | what branch master? |
| 21:55 | tcohen | rangi! |
| 21:55 | rangi | hey tcohen |
| 21:55 | tcohen | how are you doing! |
| 21:55 | eythian | It ought to be that if you turn on debug, it loads that module that makes all errors give a stacktrace. |
| 21:55 | rangi | not too bad, just have to take beta blockers, and advised i should cut back caffeine |
| 21:56 | eythian | he's replacing it with coffee stouts |
| 21:56 | rangi | heh |
| 21:56 | cait | master |
| 21:56 | thought i'd try a bisect | |
| 21:56 | but stuck after git bisect start | |
| 21:56 | rangi | could you quickly try 3.18.x to make sure its ok there? |
| 21:56 | cait | thought it was git bisect good... but |
| 21:57 | rangi | start |
| 21:57 | cait | i think wnickc said it was ok |
| 21:57 | rangi | then either bad |
| 21:57 | or good | |
| 21:57 | tcohen | :d |
| 21:57 | rangi | then checkout a new one |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | right I get it too |
| 21:57 | cait | hm nope |
| 21:57 | rangi | and do good or bad (depening on what you did first time) |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | it's when one of the potential results has a reserve |
| 21:57 | wnickc | yeah, master problem, no problem in 3.18.x |
| 21:57 | cait | rangi: i am on a good branch - master -30 commits |
| 21:58 | on it | |
| 21:59 | *sigh* | |
| 21:59 | 5786 | |
| 21:59 | but def not in 3.18.x then | |
| 21:59 | 1802aa91530a4e8716da4a6b956ca6e0cee7d471 | |
| 22:00 | tcohen | what is it that got broken with 5786? |
| 22:00 | cait | search in opac :( |
| 22:00 | you get a perl error message | |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | search in opac when a potential result has a reserve on it. |
| 22:00 | cait | might be a side effect from another change |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | maybe the rules need re-saving |
| 22:00 | ? | |
| 22:00 | or updating somehow | |
| 22:01 | cait | i just added rules |
| 22:01 | only have one | |
| 22:01 | it's alright | |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | well when I try to edit/save a rule on master |
| 22:01 | I get | |
| 22:01 | DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Unknown column 'me.maxsuspensiondays' in 'field list' at /home/liz/koha-src/koha/admin/smart-rules.pl line 161 | |
| 22:01 | cait | huh |
| 22:01 | i don't see that | |
| 22:02 | * tcohen | didn't see that either, been trying to debug something on master regarding circ rules today |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | must be my db |
| 22:02 | didn't get updated properly or something | |
| 22:02 | cait | i think i might have something |
| 22:03 | wnickc: do you have a branch specific rule or only a general one in your circ rules? | |
| 22:03 | wnickc | LET ME SEE |
| 22:03 | oops | |
| 22:04 | cait:At least one branch specific | |
| 22:04 | cait | hm yeha that wasn't it |
| 22:06 | sub OPACItemHoldsAllowed | |
| 22:06 | my $branchcode = $item->{homebranch} or die "No homebranch"; | |
| 22:07 | wnickc | yeah, made me wonder if I had bad data, but not that I see |
| 22:07 | rangi | thats pretty agressive |
| 22:07 | dying | |
| 22:08 | wnickc: can you do select * from items where homebranch is null or homebranch = '' | |
| 22:08 | cait | it's called twice from opac-search |
| 22:08 | wnickc | was blank |
| 22:08 | cait | rangi: i checked, all my items have homebranches :( |
| 22:09 | wnickc | tried with homebranch not in branches as well |
| 22:09 | rangi | so it must be the routine that is populating $item then |
| 22:09 | not the db | |
| 22:09 | cait | does it look in the db or the index? |
| 22:09 | rangi | how does $item get made |
| 22:10 | cait | ok, reindexing doesn't help it |
| 22:12 | i thinmk maybe the problem is around line 600? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0de454466ef#l600 | |
| 22:13 | not usre... $_? | |
| 22:16 | wnickc | yeah, I was looking there, but too perly for me to parse |
| 22:16 | rangi | its lazy perl |
| 22:16 | type more characters, make everyones life easier | |
| 22:17 | cait | but what is it here? |
| 22:17 | ah | |
| 22:18 | and ... the foreach at the end? | |
| 22:18 | so an entry of the @newresults list? | |
| 22:18 | rangi | yes |
| 22:18 | its just being lazy | |
| 22:18 | eythian | Am I missing a 3.16 release, or hasn't it happened? |
| 22:18 | cait | i was looking for the loop futher up |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | 3.16.14 I think just came out? |
| 22:18 | rangi | foreach my $item (@group_results){ |
| 22:18 | cait | yeah, didn't expect it at the end! |
| 22:18 | rangi | exactly |
| 22:19 | saved about 10 chars | |
| 22:19 | made it much harder to understand | |
| 22:19 | cait | made me take 2 minutes more :) |
| 22:19 | it seems.... wrong | |
| 22:19 | rangi | so its searchResults |
| 22:19 | cait | wich is a record with items i giess? |
| 22:19 | not an item? | |
| 22:20 | rangi | handing back items that dont have a homebranch |
| 22:20 | add a warn Dumper $_; | |
| 22:20 | have a look what they actually are | |
| 22:21 | cait | use Data::Dumper; first right? |
| 22:21 | rangi | yup |
| 22:21 | eythian | wizzyrea: that's 3.14.14 |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | ah |
| 22:22 | then no. | |
| 22:22 | cait | i am really struggling with that loop thing |
| 22:23 | can i even add it in the right spot with that way of writin git? | |
| 22:23 | i want to add the warn inside the loop right? | |
| 22:23 | rangi | not easily, id probably fix the loop while i was there |
| 22:24 | cait | yeah guessed that much |
| 22:24 | rangi | otherwise next time we will have to go through confusion again |
| 22:24 | it's not like it makes the code run any faster | |
| 22:25 | cait | well can tell you what it's not |
| 22:25 | an item. | |
| 22:25 | wahanui | an item is, like, supposed to be overdued over two days already |
| 22:25 | rangi | yeah |
| 22:25 | i suspected as much | |
| 22:25 | cait | it looks like the search result HTML |
| 22:25 | so what comes back from the xslt | |
| 22:25 | rangi | so will have to trace back where that code came in, and why and fix it |
| 22:25 | yeah | |
| 22:25 | cait | it was added by srdjan's patch |
| 22:25 | i checked that | |
| 22:25 | but no idea what he was trying to do there | |
| 22:26 | rangi | which patch? |
| 22:26 | wahanui | i heard which patch was that? |
| 22:26 | cait | 1802aa91530a4e8716da4a6b956ca6e0cee7d471 |
| 22:26 | allowonshelfholds | |
| 22:26 | wahanui | i heard allowonshelfholds was off |
| 22:27 | cait | 5786 |
| 22:27 | rangi | try turning xslt off |
| 22:28 | maybe it works then | |
| 22:28 | wnickc | ah, xml records it looks like |
| 22:29 | and maybe it dislikes records without items | |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | it dislikes results with reserves on them. |
| 22:30 | wnickc | i took out all my reserves |
| 22:31 | rangi | its checking all of them |
| 22:31 | mtj | hey eythian, im gonna try for a 3.16 release today |
| 22:31 | cait | it's just looking for something that doesn't exist |
| 22:31 | rangi | whether they have reserves or not |
| 22:31 | eythian | mtj: cool |
| 22:31 | cait | a ssoon as the if is triggered... boom |
| 22:31 | rangi | it checks every search result, to see if it is allowed a hold |
| 22:31 | eythian | mtj: if it's not too late today, let me know when it's in git and I can build packages before the notice goes out. |
| 22:32 | cait | non-xslt migth be the answer |
| 22:32 | at least that looks like a hash | |
| 22:32 | rangi | yeah |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | it only died for me once one of the results had a reserve on it. *shrug* |
| 22:32 | cait | but it's not an item list - no homebranch |
| 22:32 | rangi | OPACItemHoldsAllowed($_, $borrower) |
| 22:32 | cait | doesn't work for either |
| 22:33 | rangi | and then later it goes $_->{homebranch} || die |
| 22:34 | dcook | cait: I think you might have commented on the wrong bug? |
| 22:34 | cait | oh |
| 22:34 | which one? | |
| 22:34 | wahanui | which one is, like, that? The fixed navbar |
| 22:34 | dcook | I think you did bug 3144 but meant 4274? |
| 22:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3144 normal, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Stable , anti-spam for opac-suggestions |
| 22:36 | cait | ok, fixed the comment |
| 22:36 | wnickc | yeah, seems to work okay if all records have items |
| 22:36 | but all records don't have to have items | |
| 22:36 | cait | rangi: i have no idea how to fix, apart from throwing ut that code |
| 22:37 | rangi | rewrite it in opac-search.pl |
| 22:37 | cait | it can't work... but the feature works... can we just kill it? |
| 22:37 | rangi | to check if it actually has items |
| 22:37 | if it does, then check if they are holdable .. else well of course they arent .. they dont exist :) | |
| 22:38 | ie, only call OPACItemHoldsAllowed | |
| 22:38 | if you actually have an item | |
| 22:38 | cait | hm what if i have multiple? |
| 22:38 | the structure won't work | |
| 22:38 | and i get HTML back | |
| 22:38 | rangi | id probably revert and get it rewritten to work properly |
| 22:38 | cait | i'd need to actually get the items for the itemnumber first... and then it's not a single value |
| 22:38 | *sigh* | |
| 22:39 | i will start leaving a note on the bug i guess | |
| 22:39 | wnickc | sorry I derailed everyone |
| 22:39 | cait | as i said... i don't think it's needed |
| 22:39 | rangi | im not going to guess about that, currently it breaks the opac |
| 22:39 | so needs to not be there, until it doesnt | |
| 22:40 | cait | hm? |
| 22:40 | wizzyrea | I think that amounts to "kill it with fire" |
| 22:40 | rangi | im not a fan of the lets leave it and try and fix it |
| 22:40 | im more a fan of get it out until its actually fixed | |
| 22:41 | but not my call | |
| 22:44 | wnickc | goodnight all! I caused enought trouble for one day :) |
| 22:44 | rangi | hehe naw its all good |
| 22:44 | wizzyrea | better to find it now. |
| 22:45 | rangi | i guess could leave it for another little while, and try to fix it before may |
| 22:45 | cait | wnickc: now you are the yellow bird ;) |
| 22:45 | wizzyrea | big bird. |
| 22:45 | wahanui | big bird is from S... that. |
| 22:45 | wnickc | lolz |
| 22:45 | cait | fix it fast.. but maybe we are lucky and the dev is around |
| 22:45 | *keeps fingers crossed* | |
| 22:45 | wnickc | I am going to tell that to my toddler |
| 22:45 | he will enjoy | |
| 22:46 | bye | |
| 22:46 | wizzyrea | http://media.giphy.com/media/P[…]wdG7Icw/giphy.gif < this |
| 22:46 | eythian | no wahanui, big bird is from sesamstraße |
| 22:46 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 22:46 | dcook | hehe |
| 22:46 | eythian | (actually, different countries have different characters, so it's quite possible that's a lie) |
| 22:46 | dcook | O_O |
| 22:46 | Really? | |
| 22:46 | eythian | I know |
| 22:47 | * dcook | didn't really watch it much as a kid |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | breaking things is http://media.giphy.com/media/P[…]wdG7Icw/giphy.gif |
| 22:47 | breaking things? | |
| 22:47 | wahanui | rumour has it breaking things is http://media.giphy.com/media/P[…]wdG7Icw/giphy.gif |
| 22:47 | dcook | Although I always liked Oscar the Grouch. |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | no wahanui, breaking things is <reply> http://media.giphy.com/media/P[…]wdG7Icw/giphy.gif |
| 22:47 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 22:47 | cait | forget big bird |
| 22:47 | wahanui | cait: I forgot big bird |
| 22:47 | eythian | cait: ...! |
| 22:47 | cait | wahanui: big bird is from Sesamstraße |
| 22:47 | wahanui | OK, cait. |
| 22:47 | dcook | There's actually an Oscar the Grouch "ride" at a nearby shopping centre. It's a bit weird... I don't know what kid would want to pay money to ride a moving trash can... |
| 22:48 | cait | at least use valid characters! |
| 22:48 | eythian | except for the S, I thought I did |
| 22:49 | cait | it showed as a question mark for me |
| 22:50 | eythian | oh, probably IRC encoding issues |
| 22:50 | the "standard" IRC coding is a latin1/unicode mishmash | |
| 22:50 | whereas it should be UTF-8 by now. | |
| 22:51 | * dcook | definitely saw the ß |
| 22:51 | cait | eythian: i know how to take revenge for the big bird... i could test your ES opac again... :) |
| 22:52 | eythian | well, I haven't updated it for a while, so you won't learn anything new :) |
| 22:53 | I should do that soon though, but I probably won't get a chance today. | |
| 22:54 | cait | wizzyrea: it looks to me like it's always broken as soon as you are logged in |
| 22:54 | because of if ($borrower) it's wrapped in | |
| 22:54 | wizzyrea | yeah i'm sure you're right |
| 22:54 | * cait | stops staring at it now |
| 23:11 | cait | will try to stop feeling guilty and go to bed - night all |
| 23:12 | cait left #koha | |
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| 23:41 | mtj | peeps, could i get another jenkins node added to kc.org? |
| 23:43 | could i add my slave to kc.org | |
| 23:44 | alos, not urgent.. ^ | |
| 23:44 | also | |
| 23:47 | tcohen | @later tell cait have a good night, and don't worry, we always fix bugs :-D |
| 23:47 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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