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| 00:10 | * eythian | starts building 3.18.5.1 |
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| 00:55 | mtj | hi all, any idea what this perl does..? |
| 00:55 | ( $protocol_version >= 2 ) | |
| 00:55 | and $resp .= add_field( FID_VALID_PATRON, 'N' ); | |
| 00:56 | is it just another confusing way to state.. | |
| 00:56 | if ( $protocol_version >= 2 ) { | |
| 00:56 | $resp .= add_field( FID_VALID_PATRON, 'N' ) ; | |
| 00:56 | } | |
| 00:56 | ? | |
| 00:57 | or... | |
| 00:57 | $resp .= add_field( FID_VALID_PATRON, 'N' ) if $protocol_version >= 2 ; | |
| 01:04 | im sorta guessing that ($x and $y) means that if $x is not true.. | |
| 01:04 | ..the $y bit doesnt get executed? | |
| 01:05 | hmm , thats not a great example | |
| 01:06 | ($x) and do_stuff(); | |
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| 01:36 | eythian | hi papa |
| 01:36 | papa | hi there! |
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| 02:12 | tcohen | mtj, you are right |
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| 06:07 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 07:10 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:18 | magnuse | rangi++ gmcharlt++ |
| 07:22 | kivilahtio | khall, joubu, drojf,magnuse,tcohen: I got an idea, that if we used a Double for reserves.priority, instead of Int, we wouldn't have to readjust all priorities when altering the priority of a single hold? We could simply divide the priority to smaller pieces to establish a priority queue. |
| 07:22 | instead of 1,2,3,4,5,6 | |
| 07:23 | magnuse | eythian++ |
| 07:23 | kivilahtio | we could have 1, 2, 3, 3.5, 4, 5, 5.25, 5.5, 5.75, 5.825, 6 |
| 07:23 | and we just smartly add the priorities in between the floating numbers | |
| 07:23 | just an idea :) | |
| 07:36 | It works like BitCoin :) | |
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| 07:55 | fridolin | hie all |
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| 08:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:32 | Joubu | Hi #koha |
| 08:32 | kivilahtio: worth at least a try :) | |
| 08:33 | kivilahtio | Joubu: just planning ahead to the parallel holds stuff i need to do for Items |
| 08:33 | Joubu | kivilahtio: why a double? |
| 08:33 | kivilahtio | Joubu: Writing tests for Koha and the OVerdues module is such a pain |
| 08:33 | Joubu: it could be float :) | |
| 08:33 | Joubu: so it is easy to sort, even by humans | |
| 08:34 | Joubu: I have some good test setuppers and teardowners for borrowers, items, biblios, message_:queue, overduerules ...etc. | |
| 08:34 | I'll share soon :) | |
| 08:35 | for ucumber tests | |
| 08:35 | Cucumber | |
| 08:35 | Joubu | good news :) |
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| 08:54 | nlegrand | Hey #koha |
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| 09:15 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 09:43 | nlegrand | o/ gaetan_B |
| 09:44 | gaetan_B | salut nlegrand :) |
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| 10:20 | cait | hi #kha |
| 10:20 | anyone seen problems with fines blocking circ after updating to 3.18? :)( | |
| 10:20 | blocking circ at the self check (sip) | |
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| 11:18 | gerundio | hi all |
| 11:18 | I was looking into http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ibliographic_data | |
| 11:20 | does any of the items listed next to Z39.50 in this list provide a real alternative in terms of retrieving realtime bibliographic availability data? | |
| 11:23 | drojf | gerundio: sru is the successor of z39.50 |
| 11:26 | gerundio | drojf, thanks for the tip, I'm looking into Koha's documentation regarding SRU at http://manual.koha-community.org/3.18/en/sru.html |
| 11:26 | it doesn't look that different | |
| 11:27 | if we activate the Z39.50 server in our conf SRU will become available too, right? | |
| 11:28 | drojf | there is a seperate config part in your koha-conf.xml |
| 11:29 | gerundio | hmm, I see a separate block for SRU but the Z39.50 server block has this comment <!-- This can be used to set up a public Z39.50/SRU server. --> |
| 11:30 | I haven't uncomment the SRU block in config and just with the Z39.50 server part enabled SRU requests seem to work | |
| 11:33 | is it possible to query a specific bibliographic record by it's id using CQL on SRU? | |
| 11:34 | kivilahtio | gerundino I think so |
| 11:36 | gerundio: Actually you have to configure Zebra to inlcude the biblionumber from Field 999 to one of the search indexes in the bib1-attrset | |
| 11:36 | I did that for component parts way back, but I added the 001 to some rarely used field | |
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| 11:41 | gerundio | kivilahtio, what would the biblio id parameter look like in the CQL query after that? |
| 11:41 | kivilahtio | You need to substitute one of the Z39-50 search fields |
| 11:42 | gerundio: I think there is already one field for some kind of "control no." | |
| 11:43 | gerundio: Maybe it works as is, you could give it a try | |
| 11:43 | gerundio | my knowledge regarding Z39.50, SRU and CQL are very limited, hence my last question |
| 11:44 | http://opac:9998/biblios?versi[…]&maximumRecords=1 | |
| 11:44 | this query works on my environment | |
| 11:45 | but I'm looking to search by biblio id instead of a string like "water" on that example | |
| 11:45 | what should the query parameter be in that case? | |
| 11:46 | if I simply replace "water" by the id itself it returns a result, but not the one it should | |
| 11:47 | is there any query parameter format I could use so the search result would in fact be the record with that biblio id? | |
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| 12:02 | gerundio | kivilahtio, I've dug deeper into etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att and etc/zebradb/pqf.properties and I think I might have found the answer to my question |
| 12:02 | kivilahtio | gerundio: wow! What is the answer? |
| 12:02 | gerundio | on etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att I found this attribute: "att 12 Local-number" |
| 12:02 | which relates to Z39.50 search by id | |
| 12:03 | kivilahtio | Sorry I missed your chat, because you didnät explicitly invoke my name :( |
| 12:03 | gerundio | in etc/zebradb/pqf.properties there's a line for "index.rec.id = 1=12" |
| 12:03 | so basically http://opac:9998/biblios?versi[…]&maximumRecords=1 returns data for biblio id 61849 | |
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| 12:04 | kivilahtio | Is the Local-number -index indexed in the marc_defs/marc21/biblio-koha-indexdefs? |
| 12:05 | I think it is, but there might be a more specific index for the Field 999$c which is the koha-to-marc mapping for biblionumber | |
| 12:05 | gerundio | <index_control_field tag="001"><target_index>Local-number:w</target_index> |
| 12:05 | </index_control_field> | |
| 12:05 | kivilahtio | you might get some extra noise in your results if Local-number is not specific for the field you need |
| 12:06 | cait | Joubu: did you see my follow-up patch for master? could you test maybe? |
| 12:06 | kivilahtio | so that indexes the Biblio number given by the cataloguing authority, that number is further identified by the Field 003 |
| 12:06 | gerundio: Check the Field 999$c | |
| 12:06 | cait | changing local_number i would not recommend |
| 12:07 | and the mapping is different for unimarc and marc21 | |
| 12:07 | gerundio | I'm using unimarc |
| 12:07 | cait | unimarc uses the 001 for the biblionumber |
| 12:07 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 12:07 | then it is ok | |
| 12:07 | cait | marc21 has 999 |
| 12:07 | i missed the beginning of the conversation so hope that makes sense | |
| 12:07 | kivilahtio | it makes cait :) |
| 12:08 | gerundio | cait++, you're right on target :) |
| 12:08 | cait | Local-number needs to be unique,so be careful not to change it (i did and the results were no fun) :) |
| 12:08 | gerundio | kivilahtio++, thanks for all your help |
| 12:08 | kivilahtio | gerundio: no problem! I hope you enjoy your stay |
| 12:08 | gerundio | cait, I'm using a clean Koha installation |
| 12:09 | I lack the knowledge to mess around with it, so I think I'll be safe | |
| 12:09 | :) | |
| 12:13 | cait | :) |
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| 12:28 | Oak | congratulations NZ cricket fans. |
| 12:28 | * Oak | waves |
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| 12:31 | cait | happy belated birthday Oak :) |
| 12:31 | or happy belated wishes to your birthday? whatever makes sense :) | |
| 12:32 | Oak | oh man! |
| 12:32 | cait | Joubu++ cleaning up old bugs :) |
| 12:32 | Oak | happy belated birthday to you too cait. |
| 12:32 | cait | heh thx :) |
| 12:33 | Oak | wait. i forgot yours was before me or after me |
| 12:33 | cait | march 2nd |
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| 12:34 | Oak | :) cool. i better not forget it again. |
| 12:34 | how are ya? | |
| 12:34 | at work? | |
| 12:34 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 12:34 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 10.7°C (1:34 PM CET on March 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:34 | cait | yep |
| 12:35 | Oak | okay. work now, chit chat later. |
| 12:35 | what's for lunch? | |
| 12:36 | no, don't answer. chit chat later. | |
| 12:38 | cait | heh ok ;) |
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| 12:51 | magnuse | Oak |
| 12:51 | Oak | magnuse |
| 12:51 | here, have an orange: O` | |
| 12:53 | magnuse | nom nom nom |
| 12:53 | Oak | :-] |
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| 13:03 | mveron | Hi #koha |
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| 13:05 | * magnuse | involuntarily thinks "ah, the wine guy" |
| 13:15 | mveron | @wunder Basel |
| 13:15 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 17.1°C (2:15 PM CET on March 24, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
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| 13:23 | cait | mveron++ thx for signing off! |
| 13:23 | bug 13380 | |
| 13:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13380 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Auto fill order cancellation reasons from authorised values |
| 13:24 | cait | looking for a signoff for the last patch there - sorry, just reminded me of it :) |
| 13:25 | meeting time | |
| 13:25 | wahanui | mmm meat |
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| 13:37 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 13:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (2:20 PM CET on March 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:46 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 13:46 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.2°C (10:44 AM ART on March 24, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:46 | magnuse | 16 - nice! |
| 13:55 | francharb | Hi all! |
| 13:55 | How is it going? | |
| 13:55 | I have a weird issue here | |
| 13:56 | If I catalogue the title "blanc maculé d'une ombre" | |
| 13:56 | It doesn't display well on each screen | |
| 13:56 | The breadcrumb is OK | |
| 13:57 | The marc view is almost OK | |
| 13:58 | The normal view (with xslt) and ISBN view is not | |
| 13:58 | I have Blanc macul ď'une ombre | |
| 13:59 | you can see the quote on the "d" | |
| 14:00 | Joubu | and what about the é ? |
| 14:00 | francharb | it doesnt display |
| 14:01 | Joubu | francharb: on master? |
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| 14:01 | francharb | nope, on my installation which is 3.14 |
| 14:01 | i should test on master | |
| 14:01 | hold on | |
| 14:01 | Joubu | yes, you should :) |
| 14:02 | francharb | If anyone ever experienced this, any feedback will be very appreciated |
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| 14:12 | francharb | Joubu, it works on master |
| 14:13 | good news | |
| 14:13 | wahanui | somebody said good news was it looks like it's running properly. |
| 14:14 | francharb | but since we are not going to update this library to master, I still have the issue.. ahah |
| 14:15 | Joubu | you could try in 3.16.x |
| 14:15 | and then... git bisect :) | |
| 14:18 | francharb | thanks |
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| 14:42 | rambutan | I attended the first ever Kansas Linux Fest 2015 over the weekend at the Lawrence Public Library |
| 14:42 | Was a very good event, and I'd guess there were about 150 attendees | |
| 14:42 | Next year it will probably be held at Kansas State University in Manhattan, KS | |
| 14:42 | I would expect a very good attendance | |
| 14:43 | But anyway, I'd like to encourage Koha users that might be able to attend to give a presentation | |
| 14:43 | on Koha and/or Evergreen next year | |
| 14:43 | http://www.kansaslinuxfest.us/ | |
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| 15:28 | fridolin | see u |
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| 15:42 | tcohen1 | I promise I already ordered a new Wireless Router for home |
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| 18:07 | * cait | waves |
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| 19:12 | * magnuse | gives the evening wave |
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| 19:13 | cait | :) |
| 19:15 | magnuse | yay |
| 19:17 | here's a little thing i wrote: https://github.com/Libriotech/ftp2koha get marc records from an ftp server, add dummy items and bulkmarcimport them into koha | |
| 19:17 | patches welcome | |
| 19:17 | drojf | what ftp servers would i get marc records from? |
| 19:19 | magnuse | something like a union catalogue |
| 19:20 | it is written for a swdish public library that gets records from something called Libris | |
| 19:21 | drojf | ah ok. libris uses ftp? |
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| 19:21 | magnuse | yeah, apparently |
| 19:22 | there has been talk of oai-pmh and pubsubhubbub, but i don't think that is live yet | |
| 19:22 | Viktor would know... | |
| 19:22 | drojf | would not help much for a koha instance receiving the data anyway |
| 19:23 | at least for now | |
| 19:23 | that reminds me… | |
| 19:24 | bug 10662 | |
| 19:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P1 - high, ---, dcook, ASSIGNED , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
| 19:26 | drojf | hm |
| 19:26 | magnuse | t'would be awesome if dcook found the time to finish that :-) |
| 19:26 | * drojf | cheers on dcook |
| 19:26 | drojf | yup |
| 19:27 | * magnuse | makes a mental note of sending dcook some round tuits when he finds some |
| 19:27 | cait | and me? |
| 19:27 | wahanui | it has been said that cait is looking for someone to qa the sip patches |
| 19:28 | magnuse | yup, you'll get some too |
| 19:29 | cait | :) |
| 19:32 | magnuse | google image search for "round tuit" - tee hee |
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| 19:43 | magnuse | @later tell Dyrcona i rebased your ncip branch on master today, with only a couple of minor conflicts (as far as i could tell) - yay! https://github.com/Libriotech/[…]rver/tree/dyrcona i will probably base my work on that |
| 19:43 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:00 | Topic for #koha is now Nominations for 3.22-roles are open: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roles_for_3.22 | Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 21:00 | andreashm | magnuse: possibly. I hope a better solution will be around before we go live though. |
| 21:00 | looking at bug 10662 right now. | |
| 21:01 | rangi | you'll probably want to talk to dcook about that |
| 21:01 | magnuse | yeah, i think it is a question of time and tuits |
| 21:02 | rangi | but also look at http://dp.la/info/2015/02/11/d[…]ses-krikri-0-1-3/ |
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| 21:03 | andreashm | rangi: I've seen that before, but thanks for reminding me! |
| 21:06 | also interested in the comment on that bug from Galen Charlton about allowing Koha to support multiple metadata formats. also seem to remeber that something similar was mentioned with the Ebsco grant... anyone who knows what the plans/progress are with that? | |
| 21:08 | rangi | yep |
| 21:08 | once the ES support is done, for handling MARC | |
| 21:08 | then it's a lot easier to make it also handle less esoteric formats too :) | |
| 21:09 | andreashm | RDF? |
| 21:09 | wahanui | somebody said RDF was just spinning round in circles on the water |
| 21:09 | rangi | because its a schemaless search system, you tell it what it is indexing when you send the data |
| 21:09 | so you can combine multiple formats | |
| 21:09 | andreashm | rangi: sonds great |
| 21:09 | rangi | as long as they all have somethign that maps to say 'title' |
| 21:09 | andreashm | sounds |
| 21:09 | rangi | then you can search title |
| 21:09 | etc | |
| 21:10 | eythian | hi |
| 21:10 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
| 21:11 | cait | AnonSuggestions = also allow suggestions for non logged in users (while logged in are treated as usual) OR force all suggestions to be anonymous? |
| 21:12 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 21:15 | andreashm: i have a cunning plan for semantifying koha, but not enough time... | |
| 21:15 | indexing the rdf with es is probably a good idea | |
| 21:16 | andreashm | magnuse: interesting. |
| 21:16 | wahanui | it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 21:16 | magnuse | but rdf will also make browsing very cool :-) |
| 21:18 | rangi | yep, and we have both done POC showing we can do a marc2rdf transform |
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| 21:18 | rangi | which should allow for doing some funky stuff |
| 21:18 | magnuse | we just need to actually get it into koha... :-) |
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| 21:18 | rangi | yup |
| 21:18 | andreashm | ah, the fabled next step. |
| 21:19 | rangi | im waiting for the ES stuff, because it uses Catmandu and thats what I want to use |
| 21:19 | cos 1 its awesome and 2 the people maintaining it are awesome | |
| 21:19 | magnuse | agreed :-) |
| 21:20 | andreashm: i have noted down some thoughts here: http://libriotech.no/blogs/semantikoha | |
| 21:20 | andreashm | I have heard good things about Catmandu, but have absolutely no idea what it does. and am to lazy to go read up about it. |
| 21:21 | rangi | invite me to sweden and ill tell you about it hehe |
| 21:22 | magnuse | btw rangi: i tried rebasing dyrcona's ncip branch on master and only had a couple of minor conflicts |
| 21:22 | rangi | yay! |
| 21:22 | andreashm | magnuse: the semantikoha live demo is not very live. just so you know. |
| 21:22 | magnuse | we should have koha/catmandu hackfest/meetup some time |
| 21:22 | rangi | we definitely should |
| 21:23 | andreashm | rangi: careful, or we'll have to take you up on that offer! =) |
| 21:23 | rangi | see if we can get some ES people there too |
| 21:23 | magnuse | andreashm: yeah, it's been a while since i had the time to do anything about it... |
| 21:23 | rangi: that would be utterly awesome | |
| 21:24 | andreashm | magnuse: but this is not connected at all to the stuff Deichmanske are doing, I guess? |
| 21:24 | * cait | would totally attend that hackfest :) |
| 21:24 | magnuse | nope, they are going to build semantic things outside koha |
| 21:24 | i want to semantify koha :-) | |
| 21:25 | rangi | im with magnuse |
| 21:27 | magnuse | yay |
| 21:29 | andreashm | we're kind of at the same place as Oslo, as Libris (union catalog) will be where the RDF stuff is happening. but if Koha could handle several metadata-formats that would help, so stuff doesn't have to be converted into Marc21 when harvested to the local systems. So I don't really see this as an either or thing. |
| 21:30 | (could be that I know to little of this stuff. quite a big possibility actually.) | |
| 21:32 | magnuse | oops, running out of battery - have fun #koha! |
| 21:32 | andreashm | take care magnuse! |
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| 22:06 | cait | @later tell Joubu - could you take a look at Marcel's follow-up on bug 13876 maybe? |
| 22:06 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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