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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:08 | eythian | http://cloudatcost.com/ |
| 00:08 | this would be good for koha hosting perhaps (I know nothing about their reliability or anything though.) | |
| 00:10 | especially the one-off cost scheme | |
| 00:14 | dcook | Learning more about Java than I ever thought I'd want to know O_O |
| 00:21 | eythian | ha ha </nelson> |
| 00:21 | dcook | It's actually kind of a cool feeling when the "How the hell does that work" resolves to "Ahhhhhh" |
| 00:21 | eythian | http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2015[…]ypt-with.html?m=1 |
| 00:21 | dcook | :P |
| 00:21 | Now why the hell does one page have different request attributes when they're run from the same servlet.. | |
| 00:30 | eythian | (note with the plans on the server thing above, due to the 50% off, it's actually half what's listed, they don't make that very clear.) |
| 00:39 | rangi | dang |
| 00:39 | thats cheap as chips | |
| 00:46 | dcook | Ahhhh, I think I finally found it.. |
| 00:46 | Bloody Java.. | |
| 00:46 | and my own ignorance :p | |
| 00:46 | And bad documentation.. | |
| 00:47 | rangi | security team? |
| 00:47 | wahanui | https://i.imgur.com/8FdEFmq.gifv |
| 00:50 | eythian | rangi: yeah, I grabbed the biggest developer option for US$70, I figure I can use it or ignore it as I please as I'm not paying monthly. |
| 00:50 | rangi | exactly |
| 00:51 | eythian | actually, you know what else that'd be good for? Hosting server-side stuff for open source projects, as there's no need for someone to pay ongoing costs. |
| 00:52 | rangi | yeah i was thinking |
| 00:52 | it could be a great place for contribs.koha-community.org | |
| 00:52 | when i finally find a piece of software to handle that | |
| 00:52 | eythian | of course, now I need to figure out a hostname |
| 00:52 | rangi | (let people upload and rate plugins etc) |
| 00:52 | eythian | ah yeah |
| 00:54 | dcook | Huh... that's pretty sweet |
| 00:55 | I keep meaning to get a VPS... | |
| 00:55 | eythian | "cardan" is the new server hostname. |
| 01:04 | master packages uploading | |
| 01:06 | *ed | |
| 01:09 | rocio left #koha | |
| 01:20 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #64 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:44 | dcook | Huzzah |
| 01:44 | Figured out DSpace's architecture, finally figured out out servlets work especially in that context, and managed to do the thing that the client wanted :D | |
| 01:45 | Without having to rewrite or recompile anything.. | |
| 01:46 | eythian | always a bonus |
| 01:47 | dcook | I'm actually rather pleased overall |
| 01:47 | I think I reached a Java milestone | |
| 01:47 | ibeardslee | rangi: have you seen .. https://www.pledgeme.co.nz/pro[…]ect-bitch-kitchen |
| 01:47 | rangi | check out who was the first pledger :) |
| 01:49 | ibeardslee | ahh |
| 01:51 | eythian | > Results 21 to 1 of 1 |
| 01:51 | I seem to have broken paging again | |
| 01:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #65 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:01 | dcook | I think broken paging is the first bug I encountered when I first started here... |
| 02:01 | Always fun :) | |
| 02:08 | eythian | alright, I think I have the authority search form working, except for sort and that broken paging. |
| 02:08 | I should be able to get there before beer o'clock I think. | |
| 02:08 | rangi | 52 minutes |
| 02:08 | not that im counting | |
| 02:08 | eythian | heh |
| 02:14 | dcook | heh |
| 02:14 | Go eythian! | |
| 02:22 | eythian | sort is sorted |
| 02:24 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 02:24 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 02:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.18.x_D7 build #71: FIXED in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.18.x_D7/71/ |
| 02:24 | * Katrin.Fischer.83web.de: Bug 13744: Fix datatables paging on 'order from subscription' page |
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| 02:25 | * Katrin.Fischer.83web.de: Bug 13744: Fix datatables paging on 'checkout history' page |
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| 02:25 | * Katrin.Fischer.83web.de: Bug 13744: Fix datatables paging on 'Holds to pull' report |
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| 02:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13744 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Paging on some datatables slightly broken |
| 02:25 | jenkins_koha | * Mark Tompsett: Bug 13787 - Clean up noisy opac-advsearch warnings |
| 02:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13787 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Clean up noisy koha qa tool warnings |
| 02:26 | eythian | ...and paging fixed |
| 02:33 | dcook | Didn't even need those 52 minutes! |
| 02:34 | eythian | nope |
| 02:34 | they both turned out to be trivial problems | |
| 03:16 | * eythian | -> beer |
| 03:18 | dcook | cheers eythian |
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| 06:25 | dcook | Hmm C4::VirtualShelves::GetShelves could just as easily return an array... |
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| 06:40 | malik___ | Hello to all I have some confusion regarding sms in koha actualy we have API of a sms service in pakistan but we don't know that how to ingrate this SMS API with Koha |
| 06:40 | can any one help us | |
| 06:41 | our koha is Ubuntu Based | |
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| 06:45 | saira | is there any sql report to count sent notices in a specific period of time? |
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| 06:51 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:20 | magnuse | eythian++ for auth search with es |
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| 07:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:39 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:39 | reiveune | Bonjour magnuse |
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| 07:45 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 07:47 | matts | hi ! |
| 07:47 | drojf | hi matts |
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| 07:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:12 | fridolin | bonjours |
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| 08:53 | mveron | Hi #Koha |
| 08:56 | @wunder Allschwil | |
| 08:56 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 4.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:56 | mveron | @wunder Basel |
| 08:56 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 4.6°C (9:55 AM CET on March 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:57 | * akafred | thinks illustrations of different aspects of the architecture of Koha would be nice. |
| 08:58 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 08:58 | wahanui | hi mveron are you ther yet |
| 08:58 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 08:58 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 13, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:58 | mveron | hi drojf |
| 08:59 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:59 | magnuse | ooh |
| 08:59 | drojf | akafred: are you volunteering? :) |
| 08:59 | mveron | wahanui: forget hi mveron are you ther yet |
| 08:59 | wahanui | mveron, I didn't have anything matching hi mveron are you ther yet |
| 08:59 | mveron | wahanui: forget hi mveron |
| 08:59 | wahanui | mveron: I forgot hi mveron |
| 09:00 | * mveron | learned to talk to wahanui |
| 09:00 | ashimema | morning, evening, customary greeting for you timezone #koha |
| 09:00 | akafred | drojf: I am not afraid of drawing, but I cannot draw stuff I don't know, at least not very well... |
| 09:00 | mveron | ashiema: Cosmic greetings back :-) |
| 09:00 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:00 | drojf | hi ashimema |
| 09:04 | * akafred | takes a quick look at https://www.netatmo.com/weathermap and sees that his home outside Oslo is reporting -1°C, while his dad's home in Spain reports +15°C. |
| 09:05 | sophie_m | akafred: yesterday nice walk under the sun :) |
| 09:06 | magnuse | so bodø is ~midway between oslo and spain... |
| 09:06 | drojf | akafred: you could go along and draw things while you learn them :) |
| 09:07 | i remember i wanted to draw something about koha and gateways/interfaces for a webinar and was too lazy in the end | |
| 09:52 | Viktor joined #koha | |
| 09:55 | magnuse | Viktor is looking for a Koha hacker: http://www.offentligajobb.se/j[…]9c95-e4333ddd1b97 :-) |
| 10:00 | drojf | nice |
| 10:03 | magnuse | yeah, really good news for koha in sweden |
| 10:10 | kivilahtio | I agree |
| 10:10 | they can get a lot done | |
| 10:10 | drojf | i wish my spoken swedish was better ;) |
| 10:10 | kivilahtio | haha |
| 10:10 | Is command of sewdish language mandatory? | |
| 10:11 | drojf | i think so |
| 10:11 | i can read swedish. just never stayed there long enough to get used to using it actively | |
| 10:12 | and forgot a lot over time ;) | |
| 10:13 | magnuse | it says you need to know swedish and english - but if i were them i would take a great koha hacker who does not know swedish rather than an ok koha hacker who knows swedish |
| 10:14 | and there are not a lot of koha hackers in sweden, that i know of | |
| 10:16 | drojf | i think one of the ideas behind it was to get local people involved in koha development. taking somebody already active here would not help with that |
| 10:16 | at least that is how i understood viktor | |
| 10:25 | magnuse | ah, cool |
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| 10:52 | Viktor | drojf magnuse kivilahtio Swedish is (somewhat) mandatory since this is both for development but also an attempt at showing swedish libraries that Koha isn't anything weird and dangerous that they need to speak other languages to use. |
| 10:53 | kivilahtio | Viktor: I thought you are there for that reason? |
| 10:53 | Viktor | We are also planning to make use of a lot of existing vendors for development :) |
| 10:53 | wahanui | okay, Viktor. |
| 10:53 | kivilahtio | Its not that I am applying :) |
| 10:53 | Viktor | kivilahtio If you were I'd say english is fine though :) |
| 10:54 | I am there for that reason, but they would need two-three swedish big vendors to feel really at ease. | |
| 10:54 | drojf | i thought almost everybody in sweden speaks english perfectly ;) |
| 10:54 | kivilahtio | Viktor: 2-3 big swedish Koha vendors? |
| 10:54 | Viktor | So this is sort of an attempt at showing "Koha is not just Viktor" |
| 10:55 | kivilahtio | Viktor: you should have 2-3 big Koha libraries in Sweden having you own staff to manage your IT |
| 10:55 | you already have two | |
| 10:55 | Stockholm and Halland | |
| 10:55 | Then support each other | |
| 10:56 | Viktor: This is an excellent opportunity to try and sneak open source into the government sector | |
| 10:56 | drojf | i should really brush up on my swedish :D |
| 10:56 | Viktor | Yes :) Libraries like the comfort of big vendors and Koha is picking up speed fast but many still feel that they want their big swedish vendor- |
| 10:56 | kivilahtio | Viktor: if you buy open source, you detach it from our operations |
| 10:56 | Viktor: if you hire open source people to your staff. Things might actually start chanign | |
| 10:57 | Viktor | kivilahtio I agree. And Stockholm is already changing the feeling in the community I think. As is Oslo och Vaara. |
| 10:57 | drojf | i asked paul_p at kohacon in edinburgh how they had so much french libraries using koha and we in germany don't. he said the same thing. without support companies it's not going to happen. |
| 10:57 | kivilahtio | Viktor: yes, w should cooperate and unify our sever infrastructure. Then we can cooperate acrsoo national borders. |
| 10:58 | we help other libraries to get started with Koha | |
| 10:58 | we are not a company but we provide help as we can | |
| 10:58 | Viktor | drojf It the chicken and the egg... |
| 10:58 | drojf | and i had a few libraries telling me directly that they or people in charge did not want to switch without a vendor. so i am a vendor now ^^ |
| 10:58 | kivilahtio | from the inside. Insidious :) |
| 10:59 | Viktor | kivilathtio: Cooperation would be a great way forward. |
| 10:59 | With a few of us cooperating we could be our own vendor. | |
| 10:59 | kivilahtio | we are currently looking to establish a national coopeartion mechanism for Koha libraries in Finland |
| 11:00 | so we can actually work for each other and towards mutual goals | |
| 11:00 | it is very buraucratic and difficult to find the cooperation mehcanisms, but I think we can come up with a good solution | |
| 11:00 | Viktor | Sometimes I think that I or someone else needs to start acting as a commercial vendor cooperating with someone for running the servers. But I'd rather see if the libraries can cooperate enough to get things going. |
| 11:00 | kivilahtio | cooperating across national boundaries might be a bit more difficult |
| 11:00 | magnuse | drojf++ |
| 11:00 | kivilahtio | Viktor: ++ |
| 11:01 | magnuse | kia ora khall |
| 11:01 | kivilahtio | In Finland we already have a lot of IT staff in libraries. Atleast in the educational sector. They can easily take Koha as their new system |
| 11:01 | Viktor | National borders is a hassle for shure. But please keep me posted anyway :) |
| 11:01 | khall | mornin magnuse! |
| 11:01 | Viktor | Hi khall |
| 11:01 | khall | mornin! |
| 11:02 | kivilahtio | public sector not su much. I am really surprised that we are not already using Koha in universities since we can have like 4 IT guys in one university organization |
| 11:02 | drojf | kivilahtio: my impression was that some universities are very close with their proprietary vendors |
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| 11:03 | kivilahtio | drojf: I guess if it works out for them |
| 11:03 | Viktor | Our national library is very interested in open source and have been running a national catalogue with CC0 license for many years. |
| 11:03 | And the academic libraries here seem to be more prepared to use Koha or other FOSS products. | |
| 11:04 | drojf | kivilahtio: well, it's a few hundred thousand euro of public money per year too |
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| 11:07 | drojf | but i have a lot of interest from university IT departments for my webinars on koha, so that seems to differ from town to town |
| 11:07 | at least they consider it an option | |
| 11:09 | Viktor | Koha should always be an option on it's own merits and being FOSS what makes it the best choice :) |
| 11:09 | drojf | yes please :) |
| 11:12 | * Viktor | is moving out for lunch |
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| 11:21 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 11:21 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (11:50 AM CET on March 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:22 | magnuse | yeah, might be lunch outside here too |
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| 11:34 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 11:34 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 4.0°C (12:20 PM CET on March 13, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:34 | drojf | not for me ;) |
| 11:35 | slef++ | |
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| 11:48 | slef | hmm? |
| 11:48 | @wunder EGYD | |
| 11:48 | huginn | slef: The current temperature in Cranwell, United Kingdom is 9.0°C (11:00 AM GMT on March 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:49 | drojf | slef: your email pointing out that it would have been nice to have the MOU just a few days earlier ;) |
| 11:51 | slef | drojf: we're not exactly going anywhere useful with these replies though, so I probably shouldn't have sent that. |
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| 11:54 | drojf | slef: true. but the pathos level got a little high and i really don't understand why that is the case. i don't think anyone opposes the MOU or the people signing it |
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| 12:07 | drojf | it will be very interesting to see how things turn out once there is actually money involved |
| 12:08 | money brings out the best in people. or something like that | |
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| 12:50 | tcohen | morning |
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| 13:03 | cait | morning tcohen |
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| 13:06 | tcohen | hi cait |
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| 13:20 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
| 13:21 | kivilahtio | hi tcohen! |
| 13:22 | I am looking into the Cucmber test susing Perl | |
| 13:22 | Cucumber tests | |
| 13:22 | they look very promising | |
| 13:22 | tcohen | hi olli! |
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| 13:48 | tcohen | Joubu: can you clarify on bug 13021? |
| 13:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , DataTables server-side processing - guarantor search |
| 13:48 | tcohen | i think we just need to deprecate the last patch |
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| 13:51 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 13:53 | tcohen | JoshBom |
| 13:53 | hi mtompset | |
| 13:53 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. :) |
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| 13:54 | mtompset | So, you commented on bug 11592 about some XMLish code somewhere? :) |
| 13:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , opac detail scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility |
| 13:55 | mtompset | Is there a hint of code somewhere, tcohen? :) |
| 13:57 | tcohen | mtompset: a very outdated version https://github.com/tomascohen/[…]acdb67273437f2b2b |
| 13:57 | i didn't have the time to polish it during hackfest | |
| 13:57 | and i need to fix some things before submitting | |
| 13:58 | mtompset | C4::ClassSource?! |
| 13:58 | tcohen | i refactored it so it applies to just XML data instead of Koha::Search::Result objects |
| 13:58 | read the code | |
| 13:58 | you will understand it | |
| 13:59 | mtompset | I've never seen it before. |
| 13:59 | tcohen | i know |
| 14:01 | mtompset | Just a quick scan, this writes an xslt stylesheet to apply on the fly? |
| 14:02 | Interesting... | |
| 14:02 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 14:06 | tcohen | it generates an XSLT (that my local code caches already) for each branch/fw-code |
| 14:06 | and interface | |
| 14:06 | wahanui | interface is probably optional. |
| 14:07 | tcohen | and it applies it to XML::LibXML records |
| 14:09 | at that point, I created a Koha::Search::Result class so each record already carries some data about itself (biblionumber and metadata schema: we could want to have proper handling of JSON, etc) | |
| 14:10 | but i convinced myself that it is better for the filter to apply to xml objects, and just pass that data as parameters | |
| 14:10 | the only problem is that Koha::RecordProcessor deals with serialization format but not the metadata schema itself | |
| 14:11 | mtompset | But I notice how you expressly used C4::Biblio::GetFrameworkCode. That is the sort of thing you don't expect when use have a use Biblio; right up front, but results from a circular include. |
| 14:11 | That's the sort of debugging pain I was hoping to avoid. | |
| 14:11 | tcohen | so, i need to think about the best way to organize it |
| 14:12 | i don't see any circular dependency | |
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| 14:13 | * Oak | waves |
| 14:13 | Oak | magnuse |
| 14:14 | tcohen | mtompset? |
| 14:14 | wahanui | well, mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. |
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| 14:15 | mtompset | opac page -> C4::Biblio and this filter, this filter uses C4::Biblio... it's not quite circular, but it's enough to make the name spaces require explicitness, I think. |
| 14:15 | magnuse | Oak |
| 14:15 | Oak: isn't this a weird time for you? | |
| 14:16 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak magnuse. |
| 14:16 | Oak | \o/ |
| 14:16 | not at all. 7:14pm | |
| 14:16 | Joubu | tcohen: actually it's the issue I have yesterday on the other bug |
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| 14:16 | Joubu | on bug 12648 |
| 14:16 | Oak | hello mtompset ! |
| 14:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12648 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Link patrons to an order |
| 14:17 | magnuse | Oak: oh yesh, that's not too bad :-) |
| 14:17 | Joubu | tcohen: you got a "processing..." caused by a bad json, and I submited a patch |
| 14:17 | Oak | magnuse, it seems weird because I was AWOL for a long time. |
| 14:17 | :) | |
| 14:17 | Joubu | tcohen: so yes, you can obsolete it |
| 14:19 | Oak | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:19 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 10.0°C (3:00 PM CET on March 13, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:19 | Oak | what |
| 14:19 | * Oak | wonders what's the design of clouds on cait's sky. |
| 14:20 | mtompset | Well, they aren't dead Google services. :) |
| 14:20 | Oak | is there a Google sky? like Google street? |
| 14:21 | mtompset | Those are probably closer to Joubu. ;) http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/v[…]8392_4408996.html |
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| 14:21 | mtompset | Hmmm.... |
| 14:22 | Google maps does let you look up. :) | |
| 14:23 | Oak | aha. you're messing with me. |
| 14:24 | it's good to be here. i like this irc scree. | |
| 14:24 | screen* | |
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| 14:27 | mtompset | I went to my house streetview and looked up. |
| 14:27 | It's an old picture, but it does let me look up. | |
| 14:28 | magnuse | welcome bacl Oak |
| 14:29 | Oak | :] thanks magnuse :) |
| 14:36 | * magnuse | wanders off into the weekend |
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| 14:46 | mtompset | Enjoy, magnuse. :) |
| 14:50 | And yes, Oak, I was joking around. Services are typically on the cloud, but Google's dead services have a memorial in France not where cait is. :) | |
| 14:51 | Oak | i was just trying to see if cait is available to talk, without disturbing her. was 3:00pm there... office probably. :) |
| 14:51 | cait | hi :) |
| 14:52 | Oak | oh hello! |
| 14:52 | probably should have uset caitt or Katrin. | |
| 14:54 | cait | it#s alrigh |
| 14:54 | t | |
| 14:55 | i changed my screen to no longer blick when somene says my name actually | |
| 14:56 | Oak | good. |
| 14:56 | too many admirers. i see. | |
| 14:57 | cait | not quite :) |
| 14:57 | how are you doing? | |
| 14:59 | Oak | no admirers here. i set my screen to make siren sounds and play La Isla Bonita at high volume. |
| 15:00 | i'm fine. | |
| 15:02 | how are you? i know tons of books you might like to read. i've read like 40 of them in the past 6 months. | |
| 15:02 | will pm when you are free in the next few days. | |
| 15:05 | cait | :) |
| 15:05 | Oak | i don't like that song really. just trying to cheer you. |
| 15:06 | i do like when Alizée sings it however. | |
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| 15:10 | mtompset | Oak: |
| 15:10 | Oak: | |
| 15:10 | Oak: | |
| 15:10 | Just checking your triggers. :) | |
| 15:10 | Oak | oh man. my ears. too many sirens and La Isla Bonitas. |
| 15:24 | cait | oh noes |
| 15:24 | huginn! | |
| 15:30 | and no tcohen... no drojf | |
| 15:30 | and nothing to leave them a message | |
| 15:30 | guess i could write an email :) | |
| 15:32 | mtompset | or perhaps FB message? |
| 15:35 | fridolin | have a nice weekend |
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| 15:39 | slef | Hrm. Is there any way we can avoid guided_reports.pl building the whole OpenOffice file before starting to send it? |
| 15:39 | Big reports timeout. If not, maybe it should chicken out over a certain size? | |
| 15:54 | mtompset | Perhaps something to consider as part of the RESTful API. :) |
| 15:54 | ^ slef :) | |
| 15:55 | Then it could get ajax'y and you first build then download. :) | |
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| 16:12 | drojf | cait: you rang? ;) |
| 16:12 | cait | drojf: Zweigenstelle :) |
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| 16:13 | drojf | sounds funny :D |
| 16:13 | cait | you may want to fix it then heh :) |
| 16:18 | drojf | :P |
| 16:18 | cait++ # spell checking | |
| 16:25 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:34 | cait | have a nice weekend all |
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| 17:22 | slef | mtompset: won't apache always kill the build before it completes? |
| 17:23 | mtompset: although if we break the build down into small easy-AJAXable steps (a thousand records perhaps) then we could do that we refreshes of a wait page already | |
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| 17:49 | mtompset | Sorry, was away from the keyboard. |
| 17:50 | slef: I was thinking, process runs in background, ajax script periodically calls a "is it done it?" type script, and when it is done, enables a download button. | |
| 17:56 | akafred | No async report generation in koha? |
| 17:56 | slef | mtompset: I think we'd still get slapped by timeouts that way. May be better to have fred.js repeatedly call "add a bit more or send me the finished file" to barney.pl, updating a progress meter each time it does so. |
| 17:58 | mtompset | the process running in the background starts by apache, but doesn't need to actually reply anything more than "I've started" before closing the connection. No timeout. |
| 17:58 | slef | mtompset: Are you sure? I thought this was a problem for some processes in the past. |
| 17:58 | mtompset | the click that triggers the start, would then check "how much is done?" in a javascript. No timeout there, because "X%" as a reply doesn't timeout. |
| 17:58 | slef | akafred: I forget ;) |
| 17:59 | mtompset | akafred: I do not think there currently is async report generation. It would be useful to have. |
| 17:59 | slef | mtompset: even if Apache doesn't reap its grandchildre, ulimit would still bite us. |
| 17:59 | mtompset | that check keeps running until >=100% is reached. |
| 18:00 | upon which it enabled the download button. | |
| 18:01 | but ulimit would bite for a crazy huge report anyways, even if you ran it directly in a mysql command interface. | |
| 18:01 | or shell prompt... | |
| 18:01 | you get the idea. | |
| 18:01 | slef | yeah but if you can say "add a bit more or send me the finished file" then you avoid it |
| 18:01 | akafred | In ruby there are multiple gems that provide this kind of functionality. You typically put the report request in a queue that is taken care of by a set of worker processes. |
| 18:02 | slef | Anyway: many ways to skin this feline. |
| 18:03 | mtompset | Well, I don't know how it generates the OpenOffice file, so you may still get hit, and not be able to split the turn the data into the file part. |
| 18:05 | slef | OpenOffice::OODoc claimed an ability to update existing files too. Might get slow though. |
| 18:05 | and we'd have a temporary file passing between barney.pl invocations | |
| 18:05 | so it's not without drawbacks | |
| 18:06 | but the temporary file would have to pass from the background to the CGI somehow in the mtompset model anyway | |
| 18:06 | mtompset | the javascript calling to check is it done. |
| 18:06 | when complete, it would trigger the call to download it. | |
| 18:06 | client side trigger. | |
| 18:08 | is it done? no, 10%. is it done? no, 20%? is it done? yes, the file is {some ugly sha hash key}. grab {some ugly sha hash key}. here it is {passes file}. | |
| 18:09 | the last step could time out if the file is too large. | |
| 18:12 | but I suppose you could then implement a "how many fragments for {some ugly sha hash key}? X fragments. give me fragment 1 for {some ugly sha hash key}. Here it is {passes fragment 1}. ... give me fragment X. Here it is. {client side assembly of fragments}" | |
| 18:14 | This is why I was talking about this might be something to consider adding to the RESTful API. | |
| 18:18 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/New_REST_API_RFC | |
| 18:21 | Because currently, there is no stuff for reporting there. | |
| 18:31 | Does that make sense, slef? | |
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| 19:00 | mbeaulieu | Hi. I have a questions regarding bugzilla/git bz. My bug has 3 patches. The first one does not apply but the others do. I want to resubmit only the first patch and keep the 3 patches in the same order. Any tip? |
| 19:16 | drojf | mbeaulieu: i don't know anything more fancy than attaching the others after that. would like to know that too if there is a better way |
| 19:17 | mtompset | ^ what drojf said. :( |
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| 19:38 | mbeaulieu | Thanks |
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| 21:05 | beto | hello... i'm having a problem |
| 21:05 | i need some help | |
| 21:09 | hellooooooooo | |
| 21:18 | anyone? | |
| 21:18 | wahanui | it has been said that anyone is free to organize one at any time :-) |
| 21:18 | beto | anybody? |
| 21:18 | wahanui | The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
| 21:22 | mtompset | It's the weekend, and I need to leave in 30 minutes, and I need to prepare and eat supper first. Sorry, beto. |
| 21:23 | Have a great weekend, #koha. | |
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| 22:43 | tcohen | hi |
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