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| 00:09 | JesseM joined #koha | |
| 00:10 | tcohen | night every1 |
| 00:11 | eythian | hi tcohen, bye tcohen |
| 00:11 | tcohen | hi eythian |
| 00:12 | dcook | night tcohen |
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| 00:18 | eythian | hi papa |
| 00:19 | dcook | So tempted to go for thai... |
| 00:19 | I figure if I go out for lunch, I can't work through my lunch... | |
| 00:19 | Plus, thai is awesome | |
| 00:22 | eythian | rangi: new bugzilla doesn't handle UTF-8 in email properly, fyi. "Comment # 17 on bug 13407 from Tom�s Cohen Arazi" |
| 00:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13407 enhancement, P3, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Remove methods which are included in the 0.36 release of PDF::Reuse |
| 00:32 | rangi | interesting i didnt change bugzilla |
| 00:32 | just went from precise to trusty underneath it | |
| 00:33 | so might be a perl change | |
| 00:34 | and or mysql | |
| 00:34 | ill try to remember to take a look tonight | |
| 00:37 | eythian | ah, curious |
| 00:38 | rangi | i wonder if its the same perl 5.20 we were spotting with utf8 and koha |
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| 03:26 | dcook | liw: learning about building deb packages from https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging :D |
| 03:26 | liw++ | |
| 03:27 | He's pretty much a constant figure in my reading at the moment :p | |
| 03:27 | last night and this morning were obnam and now deb packages.. | |
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| 03:54 | dcook | Huh... I think I actually get the part of the idea that I didn't before... |
| 03:57 | Maybe I'll have to grill eythian some more some time... | |
| 03:58 | Seems like... koha-common.dirs, koha-common.install, Makefile.PL, and /debian/rules do all the hard work | |
| 03:58 | eythian | yeah |
| 03:58 | there's a lot of magic that lets it work out how to handle a perl application, and it just does that without you having to see any of it. | |
| 03:58 | so that's why there's no explicit "now go run the makefile" code in debian/rules | |
| 03:59 | dcook | I was wondering a bit about that |
| 03:59 | I mean... I saw the "#!/usr/bin/make -f" and "export PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT=1" bits in debian/rules and wondered | |
| 04:00 | Does it also figure out the Perl dependencies? | |
| 04:00 | It seems that it does.. | |
| 04:00 | eythian | "#!/usr/bin/make -f" is just because debian/rules is written in make |
| 04:00 | dcook | But I don't know how it could :S |
| 04:00 | eythian | no, it doesn't |
| 04:00 | that's in debian/control | |
| 04:00 | dcook | eythian: Yeah, I figured debian/rules was written in make. I wondered at what stage Makefile.pl got prompted in there |
| 04:01 | Ah, sorry. I was referring to debian/control | |
| 04:01 | I'm all over the map here :p | |
| 04:01 | eythian | dh_auto_install runs the make file I think |
| 04:01 | dcook | Ah, right. I think that's what liw's workshop said. |
| 04:01 | Or "dh"? | |
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| 04:02 | eythian | no |
| 04:02 | dcook | Which runs dh_auto_install? |
| 04:02 | eythian | well |
| 04:02 | not in koha's case | |
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| 04:02 | eythian | dh runs debian/rules in a special sequence |
| 04:02 | dcook | Ah yeah dh_auto_install looks like the one |
| 04:03 | eythian | we override one of those defaults to handle the install sequence manually |
| 04:03 | and then we call the magic to do the install, and do a bit of patching afterwards. | |
| 04:05 | dcook | http://man.he.net/man1/dh_auto_install |
| 04:05 | Interesting... so it's good with Makefile, setup.py, and Build.PL | |
| 04:05 | And not Ant | |
| 04:05 | Neato burrito | |
| 04:05 | eythian: You're referring to override_dh_auto_install:? | |
| 04:06 | eythian | as the magic, yes |
| 04:06 | dcook | Sweet |
| 04:06 | When does "/debian/tmp" get made? :S | |
| 04:06 | eythian | I dunno |
| 04:06 | dcook | I think I've figured out most things except that one |
| 04:06 | eythian | probably by dh_auto_install |
| 04:07 | dcook | Hmm, I'll investigate. Cheers :) |
| 04:07 | I'm actually curious about a totally different app all together, but figured I understood Koha well enough to figure things out | |
| 04:08 | Ahhhh this is making more sense now.. | |
| 04:08 | eythian | it's quite nice, to make Perl modules, I just run dh-make-perl --pkg-perl --cpan Module::Name, and then clean up the files (so, fix copyright, make sure dependencies are right, fix lintian issues, etc.) and it's usually then good for submission to Debian. |
| 04:08 | dcook | I was wondering why there were debian packages for things like yui and tinymce |
| 04:08 | eythian | so you can link them |
| 04:08 | dcook | Yeah |
| 04:09 | Sweet. That does sound slick. | |
| 04:09 | Are you a factor as to why Debian seems to have everything under the sun? | |
| 04:10 | When it comes to packaged perl modules that is | |
| 04:10 | eythian | a teeny tiny part |
| 04:10 | https://qa.debian.org/develope[…]n@catalyst.net.nz | |
| 04:11 | I think there's a couple more in the pipeline, too, but uploads are currently frozen in prep for the jessie release. | |
| 04:12 | dcook | mm makes sense |
| 04:12 | Ah, neato | |
| 04:18 | Alas, my familiarity with Python apps is not so good.. | |
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| 04:53 | dcook | Hmm setup.py is actually super easy... |
| 04:56 | eythian | I've never looked at it |
| 04:57 | dcook | Oh, I just wanted to know where a program was going to install |
| 04:57 | eythian | /usr/local/...? |
| 04:57 | wahanui | /usr/local/ is a give away that it was cpan :) |
| 04:57 | eythian | thanks wahanui |
| 04:57 | wahanui: status | |
| 04:57 | wahanui | Since Wed Jun 25 06:09:14 2014, there have been 3495 modifications and 1179 questions. I have been awake for 196 days, 22 hours, 48 minutes, 38 seconds this session, and currently reference 40636 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
| 04:58 | dcook | /usr/local/pythonX.Y/site-packages/... |
| 04:58 | Well and /bin/ | |
| 04:58 | eythian | ah yep |
| 04:58 | dcook | comes with a handy "--record" option that records everything that's installed as well |
| 05:00 | Wait, my bad "/usr/local/bin" | |
| 05:00 | and "/usr/local/lib/pythonX.Y" | |
| 05:01 | Which makes sense... I guess I just have trust issues when it comes to software :p | |
| 05:02 | Currently looking at "https://github.com/ansible/ansible" for managing config at home | |
| 05:02 | Thought about using Chef, which I know reasonably well now, but figured "meh, why not learn something new" | |
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| 05:03 | eythian | https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcd[…]d652b&oe=556D0492 |
| 05:04 | rangi | heh |
| 05:04 | dcook | hehe |
| 05:04 | rangi | some of the most discussed bugs (by the most different people) are the RDA ones |
| 05:04 | this makes me sad | |
| 05:05 | library users spit on your RDA | |
| 05:06 | if we could get half that passion about user privacy, or features in the opac, the world would be a better place | |
| 05:07 | thats my thought for the day, now im gonna head off :) | |
| 05:08 | dcook | It's a very good thought, rangi :) |
| 05:10 | Even if I am discussing bugs about RDA... I don't want to be :p | |
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| 05:42 | dcook | I wonder if I could build RPMs that would work on Fedora and Suse systems... |
| 05:43 | I keep thinking the Perl dependencies would be no fun for Suse | |
| 05:43 | cpan2rpm might work for Fedora.. | |
| 05:48 | Hmm... seems that zypper and yast can handle yum repositories... | |
| 05:54 | Hehe. This is interesting: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:RPM_sucks | |
| 05:57 | On a different note, I wonder how many people are using the patron self-registration... | |
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| 07:00 | cait | morning #koha |
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| 07:51 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:51 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 07:52 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:52 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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| 07:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:14 | fridolin | hie |
| 08:14 | good morning | |
| 08:21 | marcelr | hi fridolin |
| 08:22 | fridolin | hi marcelr |
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| 08:43 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:45 | cait | hi all |
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| 09:15 | nlegrand | Hey #koha. |
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| 10:18 | cait | happy new year nlegrand :) |
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| 10:30 | nlegrand | cait: thanks, happy new year to you too :) |
| 10:30 | and happy new year #koha ^^ | |
| 10:35 | fredericd | happy new year to all of you |
| 10:41 | * magnuse | wishes everyone a happy new year too! |
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| 11:02 | cait | happy new year magnuse and fredericd :) |
| 11:04 | kivilahtio | happy new year cait! |
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| 11:26 | magnuse | too bad bug 13528 does not work with the query parser... |
| 11:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13528 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Ability to search on the different isbn variations |
| 11:33 | magnuse | do we want to keep the query parser optional? it seems like a bad thing to have some features that work with it and some that work without it |
| 11:34 | cait | happy new year kivilahtio - sorry ran out for lunch :) |
| 11:35 | kivilahtio | cait: np. I am running out of breath :) |
| 11:39 | magnuse | lunch sounds like a good idea |
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| 11:53 | Joubu | magnuse: too bad that QP is buggy :) |
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| 13:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:19 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.18.0 is released! Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/abou[…]/code-of-conduct/ | The next Koha General IRC meeting is 14 January 2015 at 10 UTC | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 13:19 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 13:19 | magnuse | hiya oleonard |
| 13:20 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:20 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -20.6°C (7:41 AM EST on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -23.0°C. Windchill: -21.0°C. Pressure: 30.62 in 1037 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 11 am EST this morning... |
| 13:20 | magnuse | Joubu: yeah, i just get this feeling we are spreading ourselves too thin, creating too many options and possible combinations and variations... |
| 13:20 | @wunder boo | |
| 13:20 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:21 | kivilahtio | magnuse: I agree |
| 13:21 | magnuse: But everybody has their distinct needs | |
| 13:21 | magnuse: IT is hard | |
| 13:21 | magnuse: needs more unit tests and espceialyl better unti test frameworks for Koha | |
| 13:22 | gotta go for lunch | |
| 13:22 | magnuse | whoa, late lunch :-) |
| 13:22 | oleonard: wow, that is cold! | |
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| 13:30 | oleonard | I don't suppose it ever gets so cold in Norway that they cancel school |
| 13:31 | magnuse | hehe, no, i don't think that happens a lot |
| 13:31 | well, i guess if the heating in the school was broken it might happen | |
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| 13:34 | paul_p | good morning americans |
| 13:39 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 13:39 | paul_p | kia ora magnus |
| 13:39 | * paul_p | back from Air France office, to try to buy a ticket for Tomas (hackfest). too bad with AF. Will search another option... |
| 13:40 | magnuse | yay |
| 13:40 | so he is definitely coming? that is cool! | |
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| 13:44 | paul_p | tcohen hi. |
| 13:44 | tcohen | hi paul_p |
| 13:45 | paul_p | tcohen = coming from Buenos Aires is MUCH more easy ! |
| 13:45 | tcohen | heh |
| 13:45 | paul_p | tcohen what's the price for a flight COR <> Buenos ? (just this one) |
| 13:45 | tcohen | the problem is always connecting cordoba <-> ezeiza flights with the international ones |
| 13:46 | paul_p: arond 150€ | |
| 13:46 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
| 13:46 | tcohen | it usually costs 1700 AR$ |
| 13:48 | hi magnuse | |
| 13:48 | paul_p | tcohen but if you have a night in your family, no more problem, right ? |
| 13:48 | tcohen | no problem at all |
| 13:49 | * magnuse | starts looking for prices for BOO -> MRS -> BOO |
| 13:52 | paul_p | another news, that I should set public in the next days (once I've got a final "GO") : the Aix Marseille university will provide us more meeting room. One 12 ppl room, and 2 office (where 3 ppl can work). That's 20mn by foot or metro from BibLibre. So we should not be short in space ! |
| 13:52 | tcohen | yay!! |
| 13:53 | paul_p | tcohen last year, we were 45+, and that's really the maximum that can stand in our open-space office. |
| 13:53 | cait | eek - having to get up earlier .) |
| 13:54 | tcohen | :-P |
| 13:55 | * tcohen | is downloading a 14.10 ISO for his grandpa |
| 13:55 | cait | paul_p: is the room at the uni additional? |
| 13:55 | or instead? | |
| 13:56 | paul_p | cait additional |
| 13:56 | cait | because 12 + 3 +3.. ah |
| 13:56 | ok, now i got it :) | |
| 13:56 | are we going to come together for lunch then? | |
| 13:56 | paul_p | cait I said "more" not "one" (meeting room) |
| 13:56 | cait probably not. | |
| 13:57 | * tcohen | thinks it is ok, as long as those awesome candy paul_p brought to cordoba are in his box |
| 13:58 | cait | heh you are spoiled |
| 13:58 | I can show you the shop ... maybe | |
| 13:58 | i was there with pianohacker last year, but actually i am not sure i will find it again without google maps :) | |
| 13:58 | tcohen | so you have the name |
| 13:59 | cait | i am sure paul_p will help us finding it again :) |
| 14:00 | paul_p | cait tcohen very easy to find (and between univ & BibLibre if you go by foot) |
| 14:00 | tcohen = mail in your mailbox with a trip proposal | |
| 14:01 | magnuse | paul_p: so the main event will still be at your office, but some people can "shell out" to the uni? |
| 14:01 | paul_p | magnuse something like that, yes |
| 14:02 | and you'll visit the nice great beuatiful university office (kidding, it's a 60's building, poorly maintained) | |
| 14:02 | magnuse | lol |
| 14:02 | tcohen | paul_p: sounds ok |
| 14:03 | * magnuse | tries google maps |
| 14:03 | magnuse | paul_p: is it next to palais du pharo? |
| 14:03 | https://goo.gl/maps/x9viC ? | |
| 14:04 | ashimema++ for http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rt_Bibliographics | |
| 14:04 | paul_p | magnuse not at all. It's at St Charles train station |
| 14:05 | magnuse | stupid google maps! ;-) |
| 14:06 | paul_p | magnuse it's here : https://www.google.fr/maps/pla[…]xfcb721b396fcdea0 |
| 14:07 | tcohen | https://www.google.fr/maps/dir[…]77513!2d43.304776 |
| 14:07 | cait | ah near main station |
| 14:08 | magnuse | ah, thanks |
| 14:08 | paul_p: got a lot of signups already? | |
| 14:08 | paul_p | magnuse yep |
| 14:10 | meeting now. I'm AFK | |
| 14:10 | cait | where is the google docs? :) |
| 14:10 | ooh | |
| 14:11 | * cait | is curious |
| 14:11 | cait | as always :) |
| 14:11 | paul_p | cait no gdoc yet, must do that soon |
| 14:11 | * magnuse | sends paul_p the cloning tool |
| 14:12 | tcohen | /clone paul_p |
| 14:12 | hm, didn't work | |
| 14:13 | cait | any error message? |
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| 14:13 | paul_clone | hello #koha |
| 14:13 | paul_p | hello paul_clone :D |
| 14:13 | tcohen | heh |
| 14:14 | paul_p | tcohen = it worked |
| 14:14 | paul_clone | tcohen: it worked |
| 14:14 | tcohen | lol |
| 14:15 | * tcohen | heads to his grandpa's home to "fix" his old Ubuntu |
| 14:15 | tcohen | bbl |
| 14:16 | magnuse | tcohen++ |
| 14:16 | so the cloning worked, but the clone only lived for a couple minutes? hm, we need to fix that | |
| 14:16 | "87 People had patches in Koha. There were 34 people who got their first patch in Koha this year" yay! | |
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| 14:58 | tcohen | hi |
| 14:58 | @wunder cordoba argentina | |
| 14:58 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 30.1°C (11:50 AM ART on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:59 | oleonard | tcohen: That's a nice 50° difference from where I am :) |
| 14:59 | wahanui | i heard :) was ok |
| 15:00 | tcohen | 30°C |
| 15:02 | are you at -20°C oleonard ?? | |
| 15:02 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 15:02 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -17.0°C (9:30 AM EST on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -23.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 11 am EST this morning... |
| 15:02 | tcohen | uhhhhhhhhhhh brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 15:02 | druthb | brrrr |
| 15:02 | @wunder 77063 | |
| 15:02 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Piney Point Village, TX 77063, Houston, Texas is -0.2°C (9:02 AM CST on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036 hPa (Rising). |
| 15:02 | druthb | I like this *better*, but I'd rather be in Cordoba, I think. |
| 15:03 | tcohen | you're invited |
| 15:03 | druthb | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 15:03 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Meadowbrook, Lawrence, Kansas is -12.5°C (8:48 AM CST on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 9 am CST this morning... |
| 15:03 | druthb | yeah, so glad I moved out of Lawrence, to Houston. Srsly. |
| 15:04 | tcohen, don't tempt me. my old joints do not like this cold. | |
| 15:04 | tcohen | move to Tulum |
| 15:04 | it is closer | |
| 15:05 | druthb | in Mexico, not far from Cozumel? |
| 15:05 | tcohen | yeah |
| 15:05 | * druthb | enjoyed Cozumel late last year. Very nice. Warm. |
| 15:06 | * tcohen | remembers Isla Mujeres mmm |
| 15:06 | * cait | can recommend cordoba |
| 15:08 | druthb | my cruise passed by Isla Mujeres, coming and going... Galveston to Progreso to Cozumel, and back to Galveston. |
| 15:08 | cait | hm got another of those funny questions.... |
| 15:08 | what exactly is stored in the table patroncards? | |
| 15:08 | it's not patron card batches... as i had thought | |
| 15:08 | those go in creator_batches | |
| 15:08 | tcohen | git blame on kohastructure.sql |
| 15:09 | cait | hmm not a bad idea |
| 15:09 | trying a git grep now | |
| 15:09 | so far found no sql using it | |
| 15:10 | can you git gep but leave out the po files? | |
| 15:10 | tcohen | | grep -v translator ? |
| 15:11 | cait | hm breaks the nice syntax highlighting :) |
| 15:11 | tcohen | ah, yes |
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| 15:12 | Joubu | grep foo | grep -v bar | grep foo ;) |
| 15:13 | cait | ok, grep always confuses me |
| 15:13 | i am looking at git grep -h right now | |
| 15:14 | tcohen | grep should support some kind of continuation, and preserve the colors from the previous run |
| 15:14 | everyone does that, so no point not supporting it | |
| 15:16 | cait | i think you can tellgit grep to ignore fiels |
| 15:16 | but not getting the snytax right | |
| 15:16 | tcohen | you need to use regexps on your search |
| 15:18 | cait | q |
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| 15:21 | * cait | gives up |
| 15:22 | ashimema | afternoon peeps |
| 15:22 | cait | hi ashimema |
| 15:23 | chris_n: around? | |
| 15:25 | it was added in the: eigth installment patron card generation feature | |
| 15:25 | tcohen | date? |
| 15:25 | wahanui | i guess date is circled ;) |
| 15:26 | cait | ages ago |
| 15:26 | i still can find no way ot actually get data into it | |
| 15:26 | 2008 | |
| 15:26 | tcohen | and git grep patroncards | grep -v -e translator gives no results? |
| 15:27 | cait | try it :) |
| 15:27 | also add -e koha-tmpl at the end | |
| 15:28 | i think i am going crezy | |
| 15:28 | still finding no prove it's used | |
| 15:28 | there is makefile, he schema files, kohastructur, updatedatabase, some template variables... but i don't see a way where data is inserted into the table | |
| 15:31 | tcohen | patroncards/ dir? |
| 15:31 | cait | there are matches, but nothing looks like data insert |
| 15:32 | i think it's not used | |
| 15:33 | tcohen | raise the question on the list |
| 15:33 | cait | not subscribed from here, but i will file a bug, maybe chris_n knows |
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| 16:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:57 | chris_n | cait: looking now |
| 16:57 | also try: grep --include=\*.{pl,pm} -Ern 'patroncards' * | |
| 16:58 | hmm... that table appears to be vestigial | |
| 16:58 | mysql> SELECT count(*) FROM patroncards; | |
| 16:58 | +----------+ | |
| 16:58 | | count(*) | | |
| 16:58 | +----------+ | |
| 16:59 | | 5 | | |
| 16:59 | +----------+ | |
| 16:59 | 1 row in set (0.00 sec) | |
| 16:59 | but the timestamps are from 2008 | |
| 16:59 | and grep shows no code referencing that table | |
| 17:01 | cait: I just commented on the bug saying that I think the table can safely be removed | |
| 17:18 | @later tell cait check the channel log for my comments | |
| 17:18 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:02 | wnickc | @wunder 05048 |
| 18:02 | huginn | wnickc: The current temperature in Quechee Lakes Sec 1, Quechee, Vermont is -14.9°C (1:02 PM EST on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:06 | * Dyrcona | likes to visit Quechee in the summer. |
| 18:08 | wnickc | :) |
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| 18:37 | chris_n | @wunder 28335 |
| 18:37 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in JGFarms, Benson, North Carolina is -3.3°C (1:21 PM EST on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.56 in 1035 hPa (Steady). |
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| 18:45 | rangi | happy birthday bag |
| 18:45 | bag | hey thanks rangi :D |
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| 19:42 | rangi | hi cait |
| 19:42 | cait | hi rangi |
| 19:43 | happy birthday bag :) | |
| 19:44 | * cait | sends a chocolate bunny |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea_ | Congratulations on another successful trip around the sun :) |
| 19:44 | cait | chris_n++ # thx for checking! |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea_ | bag ^ |
| 19:48 | chris_n | cait: yw |
| 19:49 | * chris_n | wishes bag a happy birthday as well |
| 19:51 | cait | :) |
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| 19:52 | cait | i wonder what i thought when ordering a coconut with my veggie box... |
| 19:52 | how am i going to open this thing??? | |
| 19:53 | chris_n | cait: drive out two of the eyes with a screwdriver |
| 19:53 | then rap the shell sharply with a hammer while rolling it around | |
| 19:53 | the coconut, that is | |
| 19:53 | eventually the shell will crack | |
| 19:54 | then use a butter knife to separate the meat from the shell | |
| 19:54 | enjoy | |
| 19:54 | * chris_n | loves a fresh coconut cake |
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| 19:56 | thelastboyscout | hello all |
| 19:56 | cait | :) |
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| 19:56 | cait | ok, i meant: open without hurting myself |
| 19:56 | probably impossible | |
| 19:58 | thelastboyscout | Desperation has driven me to IRC for the first time in about 15 years :( |
| 19:58 | ANybody got experience with koha ldap logins? | |
| 20:00 | cait | yes and no - i can tell you we have it working for 3.12 something, but I don't know about how to set it up |
| 20:01 | thelastboyscout | I've followed the setup instructions and think the config is correct |
| 20:03 | We're running Koha 3.19 on Debian Testing with Perl 5.020001 | |
| 20:03 | Bizarrely the config works from the Bash command line but not through a browser | |
| 20:04 | Works: /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-user.pl userid=userid password=password > /tmp/output.txt | |
| 20:06 | Does not work: http://server/cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl | |
| 20:07 | rangi | there's a reason you are running the unstable/unreleased version ? |
| 20:08 | thelastboyscout | We're a small company living on the BLEEDING edge |
| 20:08 | :) | |
| 20:08 | but I tried on the previosu version before upgrading | |
| 20:09 | The only thing I can think of is complex passwords. I am able to escape characters at the Bash prompt. Does Koha's web interface handle punctuation characters in passwords? | |
| 20:10 | cait | don't think that's the problem - no limit i know of |
| 20:11 | thelastboyscout | Good. It works with native passwords |
| 20:11 | liz | are you logging in with the db user and password from your koha-conf.xml file? |
| 20:11 | or a different user | |
| 20:12 | because for the installer only the db user works. | |
| 20:13 | thelastboyscout | No it's post install. This is after having installed and then enabling the ldapserver section in the koha-conf.xml file |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea_ | ah gotya. |
| 20:13 | secure connections to ldap can cause issues sometimes | |
| 20:14 | thelastboyscout | I don't think it is that - the connection settings all work from the bash prompt |
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| 20:16 | thelastboyscout | I've been trying to turn on debugging with Setenv DEBUG 9 but for some reson I'm not getting any debug to the error log |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea_ | I've seen it happen before with secure connections, working from the prompt, but not from koha. I didn't personally fix it though. |
| 20:20 | thelastboyscout | this is not set up as a secure connection - straight LDAP AD bind |
| 20:25 | M_Sic | I think I'm missing something really basic here... I have a new koha installation and I've added a few items but they aren't showing up in either the staff or OPAC search. Zebra is running and I can find them using the cl yah-client. The items also show up in reports. Any suggestions? |
| 20:33 | bag | thanks cait wizzyrea and chris_n :) |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea_ | the items aren't showing up or the records arent? |
| 20:36 | do you get results at all? | |
| 20:36 | M_Sic | No result at all when searching |
| 20:36 | no items or records | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea_ | how did you install koha? |
| 20:37 | M_Sic | but the same search terms work via yaz-client |
| 20:37 | It's on CentOS mostly following directions from http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_Centos_6.2_i386 | |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea_ | oh, I know next to 0 about centos, sorry. |
| 20:38 | something you might check though | |
| 20:39 | would be that all of the dependencies are installed, you can see them at More -> About Koha -> Perl modules | |
| 20:39 | also check the logs when you do a search, and see if there's anything obvious there. | |
| 20:39 | I don't know where centos keeps them. | |
| 20:39 | M_Sic | Yeah, nothing in the kohl-error log |
| 20:40 | er, koha. Thanks autocorrect :) | |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea_ | in the apache logs? |
| 20:40 | M_Sic | let me check those again |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea_ | tail -f might be your friend there. |
| 20:41 | M_Sic | Ah, there's definitely stuff there |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea_ | start it up, do a thing, go back and check. |
| 20:42 | M_Sic | [Thu Jan 8 20:19:14 2015] catalogue_stats.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ' , count(*) FROM biblioitems INNER JOIN items ON (items.biblioitemnumber = bibl' at line 1 at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/reports/catalogue_stats.pl line 457. |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea_ | that fires when you do a search? |
| 20:42 | what version are you using? | |
| 20:42 | M_Sic | nah, that's from earlier. Firing up tail -f now |
| 20:43 | Version 3.18.00.000 | |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea_ | that error is probably unrelated to your search error |
| 20:45 | M_Sic | Hm, no error on searching catalog from staff interface or OPAC |
| 20:48 | Looks like Convert::BaseN is not installed, even though I thought I installed it; any chance that would have anything to do with it? All other perl modules are installed | |
| 20:50 | cait | hm is this mandatory? |
| 20:50 | M_Sic | Okay, installed it and no change |
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| 22:13 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 22:13 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0°C (11:00 PM CET on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:13 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 22:13 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 09, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:14 | eythian | hmm, not bad for this time of day. |
| 22:14 | also, hi cait | |
| 22:14 | cait | hi eythian |
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| 22:35 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 22:35 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 27.0°C (9:00 AM AEDT on January 09, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:36 | dcook | Hmm, could be warmer |
| 22:36 | eythian | but shouldn't be |
| 22:36 | dcook | Sydney is the tempeprature of Konstanz and Wellington combined. Hmm. |
| 22:36 | Shouldn't be? | |
| 22:36 | eythian | warmer is too warm. |
| 22:36 | dcook | Agreed |
| 22:37 | One of the cats threw up yesterday, and I'm wondering if it was actually from getting overheated during the afternoon... | |
| 22:37 | Rumour has it that this is the hottest summer in NSW to date | |
| 22:37 | Although I swear that I've had hotter summers here, so maybe that's not true | |
| 22:37 | It's barely even January | |
| 22:43 | wizzyrea_ | yeah plenty of summer left to break records in |
| 22:43 | afaict it's been pretty average here. | |
| 22:44 | though it was super chilly last week | |
| 22:44 | dcook | Mmm, it was chilly last night |
| 22:44 | Well, when I say chilly... I mean that I needed a top sheet | |
| 22:44 | (but my wife had stolen it...) | |
| 22:44 | But also hot enough that I could actually sleep without any sheets/blankets/etc... | |
| 22:45 | Actually, I wonder about Texans and people from central/northern Australia | |
| 22:45 | Must be pretty hot... | |
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| 22:46 | eythian | @wunder canberra |
| 22:46 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Madison Apartments, Narrabundah, Capital Territory is 22.7°C (9:45 AM AEDT on January 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:46 | M_Sic | That's why this texan moved someplace where walking outside is actually pleasant :) |
| 22:46 | eythian | I would have expected warmer |
| 22:46 | dcook | Hehe, and where did you go M_Sic? |
| 22:47 | M_Sic | @wunder lihue |
| 22:47 | huginn | M_Sic: The current temperature in Lihue, Hawaii is 25.0°C (11:53 AM HST on January 08, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling). High surf advisory in effect until 6 PM HST this evening... |
| 22:47 | dcook | eythian: Nah, Canberra is usually fairly cool I think |
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| 22:47 | eythian | dcook: I've been there, it was only 40-ish... |
| 22:47 | dcook | Hmm, weird |
| 22:47 | M_Sic | Yeah, no "high surf advisories" in Texas though |
| 22:47 | eythian | though, that could have been an abberation |
| 22:47 | dcook | Possibly |
| 22:47 | M_Sic: I guess not, eh? | |
| 22:48 | eythian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canberra#Climate <-- looks like that was a record though |
| 22:48 | dcook | I wish I understood the "in-law" thing better |
| 22:48 | My sister's husband's brother lives in Hawaii | |
| 22:48 | rangi | @wunder adelaide |
| 22:48 | dcook | Keep meaning to visit one day |
| 22:48 | huginn | rangi: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 22:48 | dcook | lol |
| 22:48 | rangi | @wunder adelaide, sa |
| 22:48 | huginn | rangi: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 22:48 | dcook | So many jokes to be made... |
| 22:48 | * dcook | has never been to adelaide, but thinks he'd probably actually like it |
| 22:48 | rangi | @wunder adl |
| 22:49 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Cowandilla, Adelaide, South Australia is 19.9°C (9:18 AM ACDT on January 09, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:49 | dcook | Mmm, that sounds pleasant |
| 22:49 | eythian | I've been there once, but I was 8 years old. |
| 22:49 | rangi | thats better than the 46 it was |
| 22:49 | @wunder perth, australia | |
| 22:49 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Eden Hill, Eden Hill, Western Australia is 17.4°C (6:48 AM AWST on January 09, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:49 | dcook | @wunder darwin, australia |
| 22:49 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Anula Heights, Anula, Northern Territory is 27.6°C (8:19 AM ACST on January 09, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:49 | dcook | huh.. |
| 22:49 | M_Sic | now that there are more people around, anybody have any suggestions for things to check if searching for items in both the staff interface and OPAC doesn't work with no koha or apache errors and items show up int he yaz-client command line tool? |
| 22:49 | dcook | @wunder brisbane, australia |
| 22:49 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Wavell Heights, Wavell Heights, Queensland is 27.5°C (8:49 AM AEST on January 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:49 | rangi | all a lot cooler than a few days ago |
| 22:50 | dcook | M_Sic: opac suppression perhaps |
| 22:50 | Oh wait, you said staff interface didn't work | |
| 22:50 | M_Sic | right; not showing up on either, although you can scan by barcode to check items out and it finds them |
| 22:50 | dcook | I think scan by barcode uses the db rather than zebra |
| 22:51 | eythian: That's pretty hot | |
| 22:51 | I think it was in the low 40s when I went househunting in 2013 | |
| 22:51 | eythian | yeah, brisbane is warm. |
| 22:52 | dcook | M_Sic: that sounds like a tricky one... |
| 22:52 | eythian | I really want to get koha having meaningful errors when it can't talk to zebra, rather than just "no results found" |
| 22:52 | dcook | When you say it doesn't work, do you mean it says "0 results found" or something like that? |
| 22:52 | M_Sic | Heh, and on a new install too :( The group I'm setting it up has a CentOS VPS that I'm supposed to use |
| 22:53 | dcook | CentOS? That's a rare one for Koha I think |
| 22:53 | M_Sic | Correct; no results found |
| 22:53 | dcook | eythian: Yeah, that would be good and probably not that difficult at all.. |
| 22:53 | M_Sic | it's been a pain. Had things working just fine on my test Debian server to kind of learn my way around and then realized what I had to work with |
| 22:54 | dcook | I occasionally think about learning how to build RPMs for Fedora and Suse based systems, but... haven't had time/sponsorship for that |
| 22:54 | So it's a new install... | |
| 22:55 | So I doubt there's anything in the system preferences "OpacHiddenItems" and "OpacSuppression" probably says "Don't hide"? | |
| 22:55 | M_Sic | Right; should be super easy. No data to migrate from an old system even. |
| 22:55 | dcook | What search queries are you using in Koha and yaz-client? |
| 22:56 | M_Sic | Nothing in OpacHiddenItems and OpacSuppression is set to Don't Hide |
| 22:56 | Right now there are only two books in the system. I've tried searching by Author, Title, and ISBN. Same searches work with yaz-client | |
| 22:58 | dcook | I suppose I'm curious about yaz-client, because there are lots of ways you can issue queries with it which are quite dissimilar to Koha... |
| 22:59 | But from the sound of it, it's probably not that anyway | |
| 22:59 | M_Sic | I was following the directions from this post: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ng-td3050990.html |
| 23:00 | so, just f "Hawaii" for one of the books that has Hawaii in the title | |
| 23:00 | dcook | Yeah that should be roughly equivalent to a keyword search in Koha |
| 23:00 | Mm | |
| 23:00 | Are you using ICU? | |
| 23:00 | and DOM? | |
| 23:00 | wahanui | it has been said that DOM is the answer... |
| 23:01 | dcook | I seem to recall having some issues with search when using DOM and ICU together |
| 23:01 | M_Sic | Hm. I don't know. Will look into it. |
| 23:02 | dcook | Did you do a Debian packages install? |
| 23:02 | M_Sic | UseICU is set to Not Using |
| 23:02 | dcook | Ah, that system preference isn't always the best indication |
| 23:03 | I can't recall which file will tell you... I'll have to look | |
| 23:03 | default.idx, I think | |
| 23:03 | M_Sic | Installed from source since I'm on CentOS |
| 23:04 | dcook | Ah, you're on CentOS |
| 23:04 | I wasn't sure if you were there or on your Debian system still | |
| 23:04 | Yikes.. | |
| 23:04 | No errors though... that's a good sign | |
| 23:04 | Did you mostly use defaults? | |
| 23:05 | M_Sic | Yep |
| 23:05 | dcook | I think the default is still "chr" rather than "icu" |
| 23:07 | So Zebra is running... | |
| 23:07 | Did you run rebuild_zebra.pl manually? | |
| 23:07 | M_Sic | Yep; see it via ps aux and can see items via yaz-client |
| 23:07 | I did and it saw the two items I had there | |
| 23:08 | dcook | Which user did you run rebuild_zebra.pl as? |
| 23:08 | M_Sic | ooh, I might actually have done it as root instead of as koha |
| 23:08 | dcook | I can't recall for sure, but it might be worth rebuilding using the koha user |
| 23:09 | M_Sic | trying that now |
| 23:10 | And have to head out. I'll try that later and hopefully will be happy by this evening. Thanks for your suggestions. | |
| 23:10 | dcook | Sorry I couldn't be of more help |
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