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00:39 | dcook | standard? |
00:39 | wahanui | standard is not so practical for that |
00:39 | dcook | standard? |
00:39 | wahanui | i think standard is not so practical for that |
00:39 | dcook | marc? |
00:39 | wahanui | http://marc-must-die.info |
00:39 | dcook | standards? |
00:39 | wahanui | the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from! |
00:39 | dcook | \o/ |
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02:30 | eythian | hi |
02:30 | wahanui | hola, eythian |
02:30 | eythian | look what I did |
02:33 | wizzyrea | what did you did |
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02:50 | dcook | O_o |
04:43 | Acquisitions will always have me scratching my head | |
04:43 | Item count: 11 | |
04:43 | Biblio count: 11 | |
04:43 | Items expected: 3 | |
04:43 | :S | |
04:44 | eythian | heh |
04:44 | dcook | Ahhh, all but 3 have been received.. |
04:45 | But the basket isn't closed.. | |
04:45 | Does the basket even need to close? | |
04:45 | What is a basket?! O_o | |
04:46 | I mean... I know... sort of | |
04:52 | I think this idea of closed/open has changed over time... | |
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05:43 | dcook | Lovely... 3.14.5 stats uses biblioitem itype... |
05:44 | hehe | |
05:45 | Excerpt from master: | |
05:45 | # FIXME itemtype should record item level type, not bibliolevel type | |
05:45 | Don't mind making a patch for this one, but when a bug affects something like stats... yikes | |
05:46 | eythian | erk, so many people don't use the biblioitem itype |
05:46 | well | |
05:46 | I suppose it is compulsory | |
05:46 | dcook | ^ |
05:46 | Only in some frameworks :/ | |
05:46 | Easy to get by without it | |
05:46 | eythian | but still, it's usually ignored |
05:46 | yeah true | |
05:46 | @wunder nzwn | |
05:47 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (6:30 PM NZDT on December 16, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
05:47 | dcook | I suppose it should still consider that system preference of whether to use the bib level or the item level though |
05:47 | eythian | yes, it should do that |
05:47 | erg, it's still hot out there | |
05:47 | oh well, time to go | |
05:47 | later | |
06:09 | dcook | later eythian |
06:09 | @wunder syd | |
06:09 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 25.0°C (5:00 PM AEDT on December 16, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling). |
06:10 | dcook | Hmmm... |
06:10 | * dcook | looks outside |
06:10 | dcook | Do I have to go outside? |
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06:30 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
06:31 | @seen marcelr | |
06:31 | huginn | mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 4 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <marcelr> Joubu++ # i hope to look at some of your lists improvements soon |
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06:37 | dcook | hey mtompset, cait |
06:37 | Alas, I'm going to head off | |
06:37 | Have a good night :) | |
06:37 | mtompset | Greetings and Goodbye, dcook. |
06:38 | dcook: simple signoff? 13416? | |
06:38 | dcook | bug 13416 |
06:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13416 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Typo in marc21_leader.pl position 5 (record status) |
06:38 | dcook | Interesting! |
06:38 | wahanui | i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
06:38 | dcook | I'd have to look tomorrow |
06:39 | night | |
06:41 | mtompset | Good night. Thanks. :0 |
06:41 | * mtompset | gasps! |
06:41 | mtompset | Bug 6679 is still active and true! |
06:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P3, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
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07:14 | ashimema | morning #koha |
07:21 | rangi | evening |
07:21 | ashimema: you should have access to the security bugs now | |
07:24 | ashimema | Cheers rangi.. |
07:24 | I spotted you'de had a play this morning | |
07:24 | I take it I just got missed after a bz upgrade or somthing. | |
07:26 | hows kiwicon.. you guys enjoying yourselves? | |
07:26 | rangi | finished on friday :) |
07:26 | ashimema | oops |
07:26 | rangi | hmm i dunno how it got missed, its just a setting in bugzilla itself, not really to do with bz at all |
07:27 | you just add users to a group, and give that group access to a product | |
07:27 | ashimema | oh well.. sorted now |
07:27 | means cait can pester me again ;) | |
07:27 | rangi | :) |
07:42 | * ashimema | really wants to get angular into koha... |
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07:44 | reiveune | hello |
07:44 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
07:49 | * magnuse | waves |
07:50 | ashimema | morning magnuse, reiveune |
07:50 | magnuse | howdy ashimema |
07:50 | ashimema | magnuse.. have you looked at the accounts re-write at all ever? |
07:50 | magnuse | um, nope, sorry |
07:51 | ashimema | K, no worries then. |
07:51 | wanted to get some other peoples perspective on it. | |
07:51 | The more I read the code, the less I understand it | |
07:56 | alex_a | hello |
07:56 | wahanui | kia ora, alex_a |
07:57 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
07:57 | ashimema: that does not sound too good... | |
07:57 | ashimema | I 'think' the backend changes sort of make sense.. but I'm not expert in accounting software |
07:58 | but the UI code seems really strange to me.. | |
07:58 | plus.. there's enhancements mixed in with the re-write. | |
07:58 | personally.. I'de prefer one bug for feature parity.. and then followup bugs for enhancements.. | |
07:58 | much easier to test that way. | |
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08:14 | cait | morning #koha |
08:14 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
08:14 | ashimema | morning cait |
08:14 | cait | hi magnuse and ashimema |
08:15 | magnuse | ashimema: yeah, that does make sense, but it is hard sometimes to not improve things when you are on a roll ;-) |
08:15 | ashimema | Indeed |
08:16 | I have a feeling I'm gonna need to grab my pet accountant friend and get him to explain double accounting to me in relation to these db tables | |
08:17 | cait | sounds good |
08:18 | actually great idea :) | |
08:18 | if we are going to do this, we better get it right :) | |
08:24 | nlegrand | hiya #koha |
08:24 | hey cait ashimema | |
08:25 | hey magnuse | |
08:25 | wahanui | magnuse is probably afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
08:25 | ashimema | hehe |
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08:26 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:38 | mtompset | No, just 200. ;) |
08:38 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
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09:03 | drojf | good morning #koha |
09:04 | cait | morning drojf |
09:04 | drojf | hi cait :) |
09:05 | cait | ashimema++ |
09:14 | ashimema | magnuse.. did you know http://www.enger.priv.no/ is showing cache errors? |
09:14 | linked to from your wiki profile ;) | |
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09:42 | magnuse | oops, thanks ashimema |
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13:53 | magnuse | ssshhh... |
13:53 | * drojf | holds his breath |
13:58 | * nengard | is wondering why we're being quiet |
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14:08 | magnuse | nengard: don't wonder, we just are :-) |
14:08 | * nengard | whispers |
14:08 | nengard | okay |
14:10 | liw | On IRC, we watch the silence for clues about the meaning of the universe |
14:11 | rambutan | I need coffee. That's meaning. |
14:25 | ashimema | the silence is deafening |
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14:27 | sachin | i need help in importing books from excel using marcedit |
14:28 | when adding multiple items barcode is not generating | |
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14:32 | * druthb | tiptoes around awkwardly, looking to see if cait is awake. |
14:33 | sees that she's not, and blames magnuse | |
14:36 | cait | i am awake :) |
14:36 | just have to run to the bus in a minute | |
14:37 | * drojf | blames magnuse anyway |
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14:39 | drojf | sachin: what exactly is your question? |
14:40 | sachin | i was successfully able to import books into koha using marcedit but i am not able to generate barcodes when adding duplicate items |
14:43 | drojf | how are you trying to generate barcodes? |
14:43 | sachin | vis excel sheet |
14:43 | via* | |
14:45 | drojf | i don't know anything about excel. but you need to have one 952 field per item that you want to import. |
14:45 | sachin | ok fine, how can i import duplicate items via marcedit |
14:48 | drojf | i don't know anything about marcedit either. it's nonfree software i don't use. maybe someone else here has experience with that. in your marc file you would have two 952 fields in the record that you want to import, if there are two items attached to one biblio |
14:49 | sachin | can you give example how to do this in marc file |
14:53 | drojf | i don#t have an example marc file at hand, sorry. but as i said, you need one 952 entry per item, with respective branch code and barcode |
14:54 | well | |
14:58 | ashimema | anyone else seeing this bug 13458 upon upgrade to 3.18 |
14:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13458 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add new patron shows default / hardcoded patron categories after search |
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14:59 | JoshB | morning everyone |
15:04 | talljoy | morning #koha |
15:05 | has anyone completed a currency switch in Koha before? from local currency to Euros for example? | |
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16:05 | jcamins | I have reports that serial receiving takes unnaturally wrong on 3.16.x. Has anyone else heard that? |
16:08 | *long | |
16:09 | What a bizarre typo. | |
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16:30 | ashimema | @later tell rangi: any chance you could take a quick look at bug 13468 when your awake, pretty please |
16:30 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
17:00 | gaetan_B | bye |
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17:15 | reiveune | bye |
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19:20 | rangi | ashimema: ill to do a sign off on that today |
19:21 | cait | huh? *reads back* |
19:22 | hm... ok missing something :) | |
19:30 | jcamins | bug 13468 |
19:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13468 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , overdue notice lists all checked out books |
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20:15 | wizzyrea | boy that guy is going to be righteously impressed :) |
20:17 | rangi | hmm? |
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20:28 | wizzyrea | the guy who reported the overdues email yesterday |
20:28 | email bug* | |
20:28 | more words needed there. | |
20:30 | rangi | ahh cool :) |
20:52 | eythian | hi |
20:52 | wahanui | hola, eythian |
20:55 | cait | hi eythian |
20:55 | and wizzyrea and rangi... i am a bit slow today :) | |
20:56 | wizzyrea | hallo cait |
21:13 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]&feature=youtu.be |
21:14 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
21:14 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on December 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
21:14 | eythian | (metservice site seems to be down) |
21:15 | http://weather.niwa.co.nz/Wellington <-- oh, but the niwa site works with firefox now. | |
21:15 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
21:15 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 6.0°C (10:00 PM CET on December 16, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
21:15 | eythian | It's supposed to be 20° and raining later today. That's the worst weather. It's also supposed to be a BBQ evening today. |
21:16 | wizzyrea | but, in the carpark so, no rain :P |
21:16 | I rather like 20 and raining. | |
21:16 | eythian | warm and muggy? ew |
21:17 | aleisha | such confusing weather |
21:17 | * wizzyrea | is ok with it. |
21:17 | wizzyrea | I do come from the land of Extra Hot (tm) |
21:18 | in case you wanted some hot to go with your hot weather. | |
21:18 | and Extra cold. | |
21:19 | cait | i am glad it's not really cold yet |
21:19 | i might even survive the trip to the christmas market without losing toes :) | |
21:32 | wizzyrea | what do you need toes for? |
21:32 | j/k j/k | |
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21:33 | cait | hm not sure... balance? |
21:33 | but i am clumsy anyway :) | |
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21:41 | ibeardslee | wizzyrea: hmm interesting that the j/k is also the initials of john key .. coincidence? |
21:41 | wizzyrea | no that is very not interesting. |
21:41 | ibeardslee | fine then |
21:42 | * ibeardslee | wanders to sulk |
21:42 | wizzyrea | now one of my favourite abbreviations is polluted. Thanks ibeardslee. |
21:42 | * wizzyrea | sulks too |
21:42 | is not really sulking | |
21:42 | wizzyrea | ok well maybe a little. |
21:45 | rickx | Hello everyone, someone could help me with bibliographic data migration I'm doing with MARCEdit |
21:48 | I know the equivalence of field 952 with the items table, but my question is how to add information to a field more_subfields_xml | |
21:48 | rangi | rickx you dont worry about that in marcedit |
21:49 | you just put it in the 952 whatever subfield | |
21:49 | and if its not mapped in koha, it will end up in more_subfields_xml | |
21:51 | rickx | rangi many thanks, that thought but wanted to confirm |
21:52 | rangi | cool |
21:53 | rickx | rangi, this makes any version of koha? the institution has the version 3.8.7 |
21:54 | rangi | wow, thats super old |
21:54 | but yes, any version post 3.4.x | |
21:57 | rickx | ok |
21:58 | rangi | (november 2012 that was released 3.8.7) |
21:58 | rickx | =952 \\$aBIB$p00001$yBK$A456$Bcopy |
21:58 | Might give an example of how is this in the field more_subfields_xml | |
21:59 | * dcook | was thinking that 3.8.7 has to be about 2 years ago |
21:59 | dcook | How fast things do advance |
21:59 | rickx | A and B are not mapped subfields |
22:03 | cait | hm thy should be |
22:03 | holdingbranch and homebranch... or the other way around | |
22:03 | ah, capital A | |
22:03 | right sorry, ignore what I said :) | |
22:03 | but you will want to add a $b with BIB too | |
22:04 | to have both, homebranch and holdingbranch set - that will save you some headache | |
22:05 | rickx | If I have $b, is just one example |
22:06 | to know how would be $ A and $ B in the field more_subfields_xml | |
22:07 | =952 \\$aBIB$bBIB$p00001$yBK$A456$Bcopy | |
22:09 | One more question, A and B must have been created prior to migration in the framework? | |
22:09 | cait | I'd reocmmend it |
22:10 | it will import, but koha will forget it once it gets opened in the editor and saved again | |
22:11 | rangi | yeah |
22:12 | rickx | many thanks cait |
22:13 | many thanks rangi | |
22:13 | cait | :) |
22:13 | it's a bit late, hope i didn't cause too much confusion | |
22:14 | hm bug 13465 is an evil one | |
22:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13465 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fields controlled by authorized values cannot be unset |
22:14 | cait | it means you can't get rid of a not for loan, damaged or whatever status once you set it |
22:17 | wizzyrea | ohh that is evil. |
22:17 | cait | yep |
22:18 | * rickx | slaps rickx around a bit with a large fishbot |
22:18 | rangi | maybe aleisha could take a look at that one tomorrow |
22:18 | cait | that would be cool |
22:18 | maybe a git bisect | |
22:18 | rangi | yeah |
22:19 | aleisha | i'll give it a go tomorrow :) |
22:20 | rangi | yay |
22:22 | dcook | Hehe. Reading more about RDA and how cataloguers can write whatever they want in a field which should probably be consistent |
22:22 | Good times | |
22:22 | rangi | im pretending it deosnt exist |
22:22 | i find that that is the best thing to do with really bad ideas | |
22:24 | dcook | I hear that |
22:24 | * dcook | pretends many things don't exist these days |
22:24 | dcook | As a result, reasonably chipper :) |
22:24 | rangi | https://www.thisismyjam.com/ranginui <-- my current mood |
22:25 | dcook | hehe |
22:26 | cait | rangi: i can't do that :( |
22:26 | rangi | you cant do soundcloud? |
22:26 | cait | rangi: union catalog implements it and I will have RDA data to deal with way too soon |
22:27 | rangi | gema again? |
22:27 | cait | no - ignore it :) |
22:27 | the music is fine :) | |
22:27 | rangi | oh then my next option if you cant ignore it |
22:27 | is to say | |
22:27 | "this is broken" | |
22:27 | every single time | |
22:27 | cait | won't work if all germany is going rda :) |
22:27 | rangi | "you realise this is broken right?" |
22:27 | every single time | |
22:28 | dcook | ^ |
22:29 | * dcook | is just about to comment on 13381, cait :) |
22:29 | dcook | Not that I'm being helpful. Just adding 2 cents. |
22:29 | cait | bug 13381 |
22:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13381 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , RDA: 245 field changes in XSLT |
22:30 | cait | while you are on it... there is also bug 13382 |
22:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13382 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , RDA: 700/710/711 display in XSLT |
22:30 | cait | and my dislike of | :) |
22:31 | dcook | hehe |
22:31 | K, i'll take a look | |
22:31 | cait | time to sleep here - bye all :) |
22:31 | dcook | night cait |
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22:33 | magnuse | let's semantify koha and show all the people all the cool things they can do then, and they will forget about rda |
22:33 | dcook | magnuse: It's not a bad idea |
22:33 | I don't know about everyone else, but I'm sure a lot of our libraries couldn't care less about MARC and RDA really | |
22:34 | I mean... they need to meet those requirements | |
22:34 | But the frameworks are enough for that | |
22:34 | Then we can do whatever we want after that | |
22:34 | magnuse | :-) |
22:34 | dcook | MARC and RDA seem to me to be "professional" checkboxes |
22:34 | You have to check them, but after that... | |
22:34 | rangi | yeah |
22:34 | magnuse: you will have to charge them to read the spec | |
22:35 | dcook | hehe |
22:35 | rangi | apparently that's what makes it a real thing |
22:35 | magnuse | hm, do i want transport="telnet" or transport="RAW" for a SIP2 that will be talking to a self check machine? |
22:35 | rangi: i can do that ;-) | |
22:35 | rangi | :) |
22:35 | RAW most of the time magnuse | |
22:35 | you might have to fiddle with the line endings | |
22:36 | some want CR | |
22:36 | some LF | |
22:36 | magnuse | rangi: thanks, i'll try that and see what they say at the other end |
22:36 | rangi | some CRLF |
22:36 | magnuse | such fun! |
22:36 | rangi | yeah |
22:36 | standards .. why just have 1 .. when you can have them all! | |
22:36 | magnuse | so true |
22:36 | i <3 library standards | |
22:39 | dcook | I've been thinking a bit about Ebsco |
22:39 | I want to say it, and many other services, make up record/item types, yeah? | |
22:39 | It is half-tempting to do that | |
22:40 | rangi | yeah |
22:40 | dcook | Rather than rely on MARC's billion places to store information in coded and uncoded (yet ridiculously worded) formats |
22:40 | rangi | yep |
22:40 | bag | magnuse: HI |
22:40 | wahanui | hi, bag |
22:40 | dcook | rangi: Glad to see affirmations :D |
22:40 | bag | sweet I got that one in before magnuse got me :D |
22:41 | dcook | It's in the back of my mind. Maybe one of these days I'll think more about it. |
22:42 | magnuse | bag: HI |
22:42 | dcook | Actually, I guess I did add a local facet for record type, and tweaked the labels a bit |
22:42 | Of course, it relies on "proper" cataloguing, which is... not reliable | |
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23:21 | rangi | right time to get some lunch |
23:23 | dcook | Interesting... I have no itemtypes in my database, but somehow the stat for the issue has an itemtype of JOURNAL... |
23:24 | Oh wait... I have an idea.. | |
23:24 | Ah... sneaky item type in the imported biblio.. | |
23:27 | Hmm.. didn't know that C4::GetItem magically used the biblio's itemtype if it doesn't have its own... | |
23:37 | "item-level_itypes" is such a pet peeve... | |
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23:51 | Pabloab | Hi all! |
23:52 | Yes, I have a problem :( I need to read several times a batch of records, but witout opening file once and again.... Im needing something like $record = $batch->fitst() to set reference back to start... |
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