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01:42 | waylonR | hiya all. is it correct, that solr is currently in an unusable state? |
01:43 | rangi | yes, its been removed for 3.18, to be replaced with elasticsearch |
01:44 | eythian | it's never really been in a useable state, aiui |
01:46 | waylonR | right. moving koha from 3.0 pre2 to koha 3.14... can i basically copy over my zebra config files, and use the grs1 to dom script? |
01:46 | rangi | in theory |
01:56 | waylonR | okay, is it easier to modify the scheme in grs-1, or in dom? i need to make some changes to the scheme before reindexing. |
02:12 | whats the advantage of dom over grs-1? | |
02:17 | eythian | grs-1 is deprecated, because dom is better in ways I don't know. |
02:18 | but that also means that grs-1 is presumably getting less support | |
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02:26 | eythian | annoying, on a fresh dev install, I get this: |
02:26 | 15:26:31-04/12 zebraidx(3783) [warn] No such record type: dom./home/robin/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml | |
02:27 | and the rebuild fails | |
02:27 | but fails with no other useful messages | |
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02:34 | mtj | heya eythian |
02:34 | eythian | hi mtj |
02:34 | you don't know how to solve my problem, perchance? | |
02:34 | mtj | i've often thought we need some helper script, that detects a sane zebra setup |
02:34 | nah, i dont think i do.. :/ | |
02:35 | eythian | bother |
02:35 | mtj | does it fail at the start, or some way thru it? |
02:36 | eythian | pretty much the start of invoking zebraidx |
02:37 | mtj | hmm, ok.. |
02:37 | eythian | just emailing the -devel list now |
02:38 | mtj | running off a 3.18.0 repo? |
02:38 | eythian | yarp |
02:41 | mtompset | yarp? |
02:41 | mtj | are you running koha-rebuild-zebra , eythian - or someting else? |
02:41 | eythian | rebuild_zebra.pl |
02:42 | mtj | ok |
02:42 | eythian | this isn't a package install, it's a dev install |
02:42 | mtj | yep, ok |
02:43 | hum, you might try swapping in a set of 3.16.x zebra conf files | |
02:43 | ..then try again, see if the problem persists | |
02:43 | or try diffing a set of 3.16 and 3.18 config files | |
02:44 | grab some older versions of dom-config.xml, to test | |
02:45 | eythian | I don't know if that file is even the problem |
02:45 | I'm wondering if it's zebra-biblios-dom.cfg, which is where that line is from | |
02:45 | well, where it references dom./... | |
02:48 | rangi | yeah, or its something in home/robin/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml |
02:49 | ie its a bad error message | |
02:49 | * eythian | tests |
02:50 | eythian | 15:50:21-04/12 zebraidx(3849) [warn] No such record type: dom./home/robin/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config.xmlaarrg |
02:50 | I think it's an error in some other way | |
02:50 | mtj | hmm, it looks fiddly :/ |
02:50 | rangi | yeah |
02:50 | eythian | i.e. the path seems to make no difference |
02:51 | rangi | thats what i found when i hit it too i think |
02:53 | eythian | the file hasn't changed since 2012 though |
02:53 | mtj | what happens with a 3.16 version of dom-config.xml , and zebra-biblios-dom.cfg , i wonder.. |
02:54 | ah, scratch that then :) | |
02:55 | eythian | +facetNumRecs:1000 |
02:55 | ^-- the only change between 3.16.00 and master | |
02:56 | mtj | does a 3.18 pkg install have the same bug? |
02:56 | eythian | unsure |
02:56 | it'd only happen with fresh instances, too | |
02:57 | but we would have noticed if 3.16 did... | |
03:02 | mtj | hm, yeah |
03:04 | eythian | https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/ |
03:05 | mtj | i'm a bit busy at the mo, to confirm the bug in 3.18 pkg |
03:06 | upgrading disks on my dev box... so no dev box to test on, even | |
03:07 | eythian | ah |
03:08 | Well, I'm going to stop poking it and see if someone on the mailing list knows what's going on. I'm mostly trying to get elastic search working in this environment anyway, so zebra isn't compulsory. | |
03:10 | rangi | to go along with eythian's link https://www.fsf.org/free-software-supporter/ |
03:10 | eythian | in this case, the SFC one is a new thing they're doing. |
03:10 | rangi | or if you want to credit me https://my.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=9619 :) |
03:11 | yep, SFC are pretty cool | |
03:11 | eythian | hmm, is the FSF one putting a header in some maybe non-english alphabet? |
03:11 | "Новости" | |
03:11 | it links to the news | |
03:11 | rangi | evergreen are part of the conservancy |
03:11 | eythian | oh, it's going totally cyrillic for me |
03:11 | weird | |
03:16 | mtj | nice, thanks for the links guys ^ |
04:09 | waylonR | okay, is it easier to modify the scheme in grs-1, or in dom? i need to make some changes to the scheme before reindexing. |
05:27 | mtompset | Has anyone ever pushed in a newer version of a core module (Scalar::Utils) into an Ubuntu system? |
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05:35 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
05:35 | cait | hi |
05:35 | mtompset | Anyone know what uses libossp-uuid-perl in Koha? |
05:41 | my data::uuid (forget the capitalization) is not a high enough version in Ubuntu 14.04, and I'm trying to install Test::DBIx::Class. | |
05:43 | wajasu | fun. |
05:55 | mtompset | and libossp-uuid-perl conflicts with libdata-uuid-perl, since the former provides the latter, but it is an earlier version. |
05:55 | well, let's see what explodes. :) | |
05:57 | Kind of annoying that installation of Test::DBIx::Class is easier under Jessie. | |
06:07 | And now I remember why I was trying to get Test::DBIx::Class installed! Shibboleth! | |
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06:26 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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07:38 | mveron | Hi #koha |
07:40 | The world needs books: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHeh6OPhg4 | |
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07:58 | alex_a | bonjour |
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08:03 | marcelr | hi #koha |
08:14 | @later tell tcohen how about $DBversion = '3.19.00.000'; ? | |
08:14 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
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09:20 | akafred | The debian package for koha 3.16.04 ... is it available anywhere. |
09:20 | ? | |
09:28 | drojf | akafred: maybe check your sources.list. 3.16.x should be oldstable not (and 3.18.x squeeze) so you probably have to change the file. but i don't know if eythian did the package already |
09:29 | *oldstable now | |
09:30 | akafred | We checked yesterday and found 3.14... |
09:32 | drojf | hm yes i just tried. i guess you'll have to wait a few days then |
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10:20 | gaetan_B | hello |
10:21 | akafred | Btw is there any reason why old versions are not kept around in the deb repo? |
10:29 | magnuse | akafred: when i have "deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha oldstable main" in /etc/apt/sources.list i get 3.16.04, but that has been there for some time |
10:30 | i guess we don't have 3.16.5 yet | |
10:32 | drojf | magnuse: really? i get 3.14.11 |
10:33 | 3.14.11 0 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ oldstable/main i386 Packages | |
10:36 | akafred: i think eythian wanted to reorganize things some day. like getting rid of the name "squeeze" for the stable release. but i don't know if there are plans to keep older releases | |
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10:37 | akafred | Keeping old versions around reduces risk ... in case a new release contains a bug that will take a while to resolve. |
10:38 | cait | good morning #koha |
10:38 | drojf | hi cait |
10:41 | cait | hi drojf |
10:41 | hi akafred | |
10:41 | akafred: lots of questions about opl's project at the swib conf | |
10:41 | akafred | hi cait :-) |
10:42 | Cool :-) | |
10:48 | We haven't really begun building production quality solutions for the semantic stuff, yet, though. | |
10:50 | cait | maybe next year |
10:51 | i think it will be in hamburg - nice city too :) | |
10:51 | drojf | oh i want to go too :) |
10:53 | akafred | However we have done some cool devops stuff, like running Koha in a Docker container, running feature tests against the web interface of Koha (so we can do London style TDD) in a build server, plus have gone a long way to convert data from Bibliofil (the top vendor of ILS'es for public libraries in Norway) to Koha ... |
10:54 | cait | sounds good :) |
10:54 | akafred | ... have plans to blog about it ... perhaps over the holidays :-) |
10:54 | cait | akafred: will be someone from oslo in marseille again? |
10:54 | the date is not set yet - but i think probably march | |
10:55 | akafred | I think so, but nothing has been decided. I want to go, anyway :-) |
11:06 | cait | akafred: i am a big fan of the hackfests |
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11:34 | akafred | Yeah, great initiative :-) |
12:53 | cait | ok, libraries with more than 700.000 records... |
12:53 | anyone? | |
12:53 | wahanui | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? |
12:53 | cait | need a good example |
12:53 | :) | |
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12:54 | cait | paul_p: |
12:55 | paul_p: looking for huge koha catalogs - over 700.000 records - can you think of someone? | |
12:55 | paul_p | cait = yep, aix marseille university |
12:55 | (800 000 biblios, 1.3M items) | |
12:57 | cait | paul_p: great |
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13:05 | tcohen | morning! |
13:09 | nlegrand | hey ! |
13:09 | cait | hi tcohen |
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13:11 | nlegrand | cait: us 992693 bilio, 1289161 items (but the 3.18 version is only in test inside right now, the public one is still our old 3.2) |
13:11 | cait | nlegrand: nice! |
13:11 | can you give me the link to your library catlaog maybe? | |
13:12 | nlegrand | cait: http://catalogue.bulac.fr/ nice thing about it : it as more than 350 different languages in it |
13:13 | cait | :) |
13:13 | would you say it works ok for you? | |
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13:15 | cait | nlegrand++ |
13:16 | nlegrand: stupid question.... but don't speak fench :) is the library just called BULAC? | |
13:16 | nlegrand | cait: it's rather ok, we can work with it |
13:16 | cait: yes for bibliothèque universitaire des langues et civilisations (University Library of Languages and Civilazations) | |
13:18 | nlegrand: well, we need a lot of improvements, but it's rather ok :) we work with it all day long. It may be a bit hard for our patrons to find books, formations and explanation of how it works is often necessary | |
13:18 | ho that last one was for cait, not for me :) | |
13:19 | cait | ah, what's the problem for the patrons? |
13:19 | and thx | |
13:23 | nlegrand | cait: we have some complains about finding books, serials, and a lot of noise, but it's rather ok anyway :) |
13:38 | cait: but if it's about size, I guess it will be the same problem with a less than 700 000 items catalog :). I'm not sure our ILS is far worse than what it would be with only 500000 items :). | |
13:41 | cait | i often get asked about a size limit with koha |
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16:05 | saa | when i search for a particular record in koha in opac i get an error "Can't call method "as_string" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Koha.pm line 1608." |
16:06 | how to figure out this issue | |
16:13 | Joubu | saa: I already answered you last week isn't it? |
16:13 | saa: Was it about a bad isbn? | |
16:14 | saa | u had mentioned that earlier |
16:14 | but even isbn is removed still same error | |
16:14 | hw can i sort this | |
16:16 | Joubu | Did you find the record with the problem? |
16:16 | saa | in opac i cant find |
16:16 | hw can i find that record | |
16:17 | Joubu | saa: Are you able to modify the source code? |
16:18 | saa | i can modify |
16:18 | if u can tell me where to chanage and what to change | |
16:18 | Joubu | saa: last week you give me the isbn, so you know the record |
16:18 | edit C4/Koha.pm | |
16:18 | Search for "sub NormalizeISBN" | |
16:19 | and add "warn $string;" before my $isbn = Business::ISBN->new($string); | |
16:19 | reload the page and look at your log file | |
16:19 | you should see the "isbn" before the boom | |
16:20 | have to go, sorry. Good luck saa | |
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17:07 | tcohen | hi |
17:07 | drojf | hi tcohen |
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17:17 | gerundio | hi |
17:18 | during our last upgrade on koha, we moved the installation to a package based model | |
17:18 | chris_n | lunch |
17:18 | tcohen | gerundio: yay! life is easier that way |
17:18 | gerundio | the |
17:18 | Perl modules listing in the koha/about.pt show 2 "Not Installed" and 2 outdated entries | |
17:19 | what's the best approach to solve this without updating koha? | |
17:19 | I already read http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]modules_on_Debian | |
17:19 | tcohen | gerundio: don't worry |
17:22 | can u share a screenshot of the missing ones? | |
17:22 | what debian distro/version are u using? | |
17:23 | gaetan_B | bye! |
17:23 | tcohen | http://snag.gy/RcSbx.jpg |
17:23 | gerundio | debian wheezy 7.0 |
17:23 | tcohen | @later tell marcelr done |
17:23 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
17:24 | gerundio | a little outdated for sure |
17:24 | tcohen | gerundio: and using the squeeze koha repo? |
17:24 | gerundio | yes |
17:24 | tcohen | please share a screenshot |
17:24 | gerundio | missing perl modules: Data::Pagination and HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench |
17:25 | outdated: Test::WWW::Mechanize and Archive::Extract | |
17:25 | do you want the screenshot or is this info suffice? | |
17:30 | the 1st module seems to be available as "libdata-paginator-perl - Pagination with Moose" ...oO(it should be pagination and not paginator, right?) | |
17:30 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev 3.19.00.000: keep moving <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ac4c569c0b8405194> |
17:31 | gerundio | http://search.cpan.org/dist/Ap[…]ch/ApacheBench.pm doesn't seem to be available as a debian package |
17:33 | tcohen, should I worry about it or deal with this on the following Koha (and SO) updates? | |
17:34 | tcohen | tcohen, don't worry about those |
17:35 | gerundio: Archive::Extract is needed by the plugins, and the rest is needed for testing and/or solr support (which i guess you don't need) | |
17:36 | so don't worry | |
17:38 | gerundio: ok? | |
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17:44 | gerundio | tcohen, sorry for the hold up, I went away from the keyboard for a while |
17:45 | it's fine by me | |
17:45 | tcohen | np |
17:45 | most people are shifting to packages, so expect them to work almost flawlessly | |
17:45 | we will fix any issue if you report it | |
17:47 | gerundio | tcohen++ thanks, I'll be sure to report any issue as I've been doing so far |
17:47 | it's always nice to work with such active open source communities such as Koha | |
17:49 | tcohen | gerundio: are u using a local database server or is it separate? |
17:49 | gerundio | local |
17:50 | so far we haven't any performance related issues | |
17:50 | tcohen | great |
17:50 | we had, and it is not straightforward to set on the packages | |
17:50 | gerundio | so we haven't really thought about changing the setup |
17:51 | tcohen | we have a mysql cluster for the university, maintained by trained people |
17:51 | so we take advantage of it! | |
17:51 | gerundio | on that topic, is solr fully supported by know or is zebra the only solution for indexing |
17:52 | tcohen | solr has been completely removed by now |
17:52 | (on 3.18) | |
17:59 | gerundio | ok, I wasn't aware of that |
18:06 | tcohen | there is a lot of work on integrating ElasticSearch, but that's (at least) for 3.20 |
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18:38 | tcohen | hi jenkins_koha |
18:39 | @later tell rangi I've installed the Zapper plugin on jenkins, you mentioned another solution, please ping me when u can refresh my memory | |
18:39 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
18:55 | rangi | @later tell tcohen arachni scanner .. but we want a running koha to run that against |
18:55 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
18:59 | rangi | any french or german speakers here? |
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20:07 | ram_ | hello |
20:07 | wahanui | bidet, ram_ |
20:07 | ram_ | can you speak english |
20:08 | hello | |
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21:03 | tcohen | hi |
21:04 | rangi: i'll set apache to run on fixed ports on each node | |
21:06 | rangi, one of your favourites, on the list | |
21:10 | * jcamins | winces. |
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21:12 | tcohen | was I polite? |
21:12 | wizzyrea | i refrained from a knee jerk "it's only supported by LibLime and looks like ass" |
21:13 | tcohen | heh |
21:13 | wizzyrea | but yes you were very nice. |
21:14 | rangi | its worth pointing out liblime have submitted legal documents saying they dont do Koha .. what they do is KOHA and it is totally different, from their own mouths :) |
21:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I didn't think the early 2000s were that ugly. |
21:15 | * jcamins | considers the <blink> tag. |
21:15 | withdraws his statement. | |
21:16 | wizzyrea | have you seen the staff client? |
21:16 | of llek? | |
21:16 | it's... special. | |
21:16 | also that email looks trollish to me (the original one) we should not give it press. | |
21:16 | jcamins | wizzyrea: it doesn't look the same as Koha did originally? |
21:17 | wizzyrea | it looks like Koha did ~3.6, with some horrible additions that make it look sillier. |
21:22 | rangi | in happier things |
21:22 | https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]40580799586652161 | |
21:24 | jcamins | rangi: do you have enough library card to make a menorah, too? |
21:24 | rangi | unfortunately that is all of them |
21:24 | but i want more library cards | |
21:25 | i dont have any from argentina hint hint ;) | |
21:25 | theres 1000 ish public libraries there :) | |
21:25 | i could make 100 menorah | |
21:27 | jcamins | That would be a very large package. |
21:27 | eythian | hi |
21:29 | rangi | or even some from turkey |
21:33 | rambutan | cool, I see rangi still has our card up |
21:39 | tcohen | rangi: we can solve that, have to admit it is my fault |
21:41 | rangi | tcohen: i forgot to ask when i was there too :) |
22:13 | eythian | http://librecatproject.wordpress.com/ <-- librecat is doing an intro to library data processing using Catmandu series |
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22:32 | rangi | cool |
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22:39 | rangi | hey cait |
22:39 | cait | hi rangi |
22:39 | rangi | can you test something for aleisha and I ? |
22:39 | cait | maybe |
22:39 | if it doesn't take too long | |
22:39 | rangi | http://hea.koha-community.org/ |
22:39 | cait | what is it? |
22:39 | wahanui | it has been said that it is possible to create a patron category that requires a fee payment |
22:39 | rangi | is the number formatting your way |
22:39 | ie . for thousands , for decimal ? | |
22:39 | cait | yes |
22:39 | rangi | yay |
22:40 | aleisha | yay!! |
22:40 | rangi | its picking up your language setting |
22:40 | in your browser | |
22:40 | cait | in germany we'd use a thousand dot and a decimal comma |
22:40 | oh nice! | |
22:40 | rangi | so its doing it right eh? |
22:40 | cait | it's a bit confusing because the text is still english :9 |
22:40 | :) | |
22:40 | rangi | it does decimal . for us |
22:40 | cait | so i didn't spot it right away |
22:40 | rangi | yeah translation would be the another thing we could maybe try to add |
22:41 | cait | the another :) |
22:41 | can you add the number formatting to the graphs? | |
22:41 | rangi | to the 0-15000 bit? |
22:42 | dunno, aleisha can we? :) | |
22:42 | eythian | hi cait |
22:42 | aleisha | i think so! |
22:42 | cait | yay! |
22:43 | eythian | rangi: the localisation of the numbers in the text is correct, but in the graphs, there's no separator at all |
22:43 | cait | eythian: that's what i said :) |
22:43 | eythian | oh |
22:43 | so you did | |
22:44 | cait | eythian: maybe you can explain the elastic search patches to me sometime? not tonight tho :) |
22:44 | eythian | I think perhaps the buckets need to be more dynamic, too. |
22:44 | cait: sure. | |
22:44 | cait | :) |
22:44 | * cait | votes for more cheerful colors :P |
22:44 | cait | it's so blue... |
22:45 | eythian | oh, the dancer version number isn't localised, it says "1.3126" for me :) |
22:54 | rangi | tcohen: are you about? |
22:57 | mtj | hey aleisha, i'm lovng the new-look hea site, btw :0) |
22:57 | cait | aleisha++ :) |
22:57 | aleisha | thank you! |
22:57 | mtj | what does HEA mean, anyone? |
22:58 | horses eat apples | |
22:58 | * mtj | makes up stuff |
22:59 | rangi | hea |
22:59 | eythian | maybe it's something in French |
22:59 | rangi | its maori |
22:59 | eythian | oh, that makes sense too |
22:59 | rangi | http://maoridictionary.co.nz/s[…]oan=&keywords=hea |
22:59 | eythian | I'd looked that up already. I'm clearly forgetful |
22:59 | mtj | aah, i thought is was an acroynm! |
23:00 | wizzyrea | probably doesn't need to be in all caps. |
23:00 | cait | well we could still make up one ;) |
23:00 | aleisha | should i change it to Hea? |
23:01 | mtj | yeah, i think the CAPS threw me ^ :) |
23:03 | rangi | good idea |
23:03 | aleisha | at least that's a simple change |
23:06 | rangi | cant format the graph legends in any simple way, they are done by the d3 library |
23:06 | which doesnt grok localisation afaict | |
23:06 | mtj | 'hea' is a nicely fitting word for the app :) |
23:08 | cait | rangi: ah ok |
23:11 | tcohen | hi rangi |
23:11 | rangi | tcohen: was i right about hte DOM thing ? |
23:12 | tcohen | 100% right, DOM has been the default at least since 3.16, so her changes wouldn't have any effect |
23:12 | rangi | cool |
23:13 | time to go get some foods | |
23:14 | tcohen | e noho rā |
23:14 | =D | |
23:17 | mtj | hmm, yeah - the localisation stuff in d3 seems to be a bit fiddly, atm |
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