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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:00 | cait | sleeep |
| 00:00 | night :) | |
| 00:01 | eythian | bye |
| 00:16 | wajasu | i'm just catching up on some wiki reading and i see DEPR1: non-XSLT search results and bib display templates deprecated |
| 00:17 | so i guess that means we don't maintain any TT perl code for serach results and biblio details display? | |
| 00:18 | just do XSLT changes from now on? | |
| 00:19 | tcohen | the templates are still in place, and used to render most of the bolierplate |
| 00:20 | wajasu | ok. |
| 00:39 | tcohen | night #koha |
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| 03:13 | eythian | <grantm> http://shadow.cat/blog/matt-s-trout/mstpan-2/ |
| 03:13 | <grantm> http://shadow.cat/blog/matt-s-trout/mstpan-1/ | |
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| 04:05 | eythian | @later tell tcohen can you please push bug 13377 - I'd like rangi to be able to put it in 3.18.x asap. |
| 04:05 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:06 | mtj | good info eythian ^ |
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| 04:50 | * Oak | waves |
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| 05:10 | eythian | rebuild_zebra.pl doesn't complain if you forget to install zebra :/ |
| 05:57 | * cait | waves |
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| 06:26 | Oak | cait! |
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| 06:41 | cait | Oak! |
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| 07:29 | drojf | good monring #koha |
| 07:29 | heh. morning even. too early | |
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| 07:53 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:53 | wahanui | kia ora, alex_a |
| 07:56 | Oak | Bonjour Monsieur alex_a |
| 07:56 | alex_a | salut Oak |
| 07:56 | Oak | :) |
| 07:57 | Bonjour Mademoiselle sophie_m | |
| 07:57 | sophie_m | Bonjour Oak, helle #koha |
| 08:02 | magnuse | Oak |
| 08:05 | Oak | magnuse |
| 08:05 | \o/ | |
| 08:07 | magnuse | o/ |
| 08:07 | * magnuse | waves to #koha |
| 08:08 | cait joined #koha | |
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| 08:08 | magnuse | kia ora cait and BobB |
| 08:08 | BobB | hi magnuse |
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| 08:21 | Oak | so the problem with 3.18 and Google Chrome on Windows (I posted) disappeared automagically. but .... did not post again, because it would sound more moronic that issue fixed itself. |
| 08:22 | only logical explanation i can think of is that perhaps my uni's Squid was caching some old files from 3.16 and when cache expired the issue got fixed. | |
| 08:29 | more moronic not entirely because issue fixed it self but because i posted like, 4 or 5 messages. | |
| 08:41 | tough crowd. | |
| 08:42 | drojf | Oak: things like that happen. i would post a message saying it is resolved now anyway. |
| 08:42 | Oak | hmm. okay. |
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| 08:45 | cait_ | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:45 | huginn | cait_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.1°C (9:45 AM CET on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:45 | drojf | hi cait_ |
| 08:45 | i see it's snowing in bonn? | |
| 08:45 | cait_ | hi drojf |
| 08:46 | yeah it is | |
| 08:46 | drojf | brrr |
| 08:46 | cait_ | are you watching the stream thi smorningß |
| 08:46 | bibframe? | |
| 08:46 | wahanui | https://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfr[…]03089_animate.gif |
| 08:46 | drojf | yes |
| 08:47 | Oak | what stream? some Live stream? |
| 08:48 | drojf | Oak: http://swib.org/swib14/ |
| 08:48 | semantic web in libraries conference | |
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| 08:48 | Oak | oooh. thanks! |
| 08:48 | cait_ | hm irc connection via webchat doesn't seem very stabe |
| 08:48 | drojf | Oak: you can see cait_s back sometimes during the breaks :) |
| 08:49 | cait_ | trying, but the internet is beiing annoying |
| 08:49 | drojf | i saw a picture of that internet |
| 08:50 | https://twitter.com/swibcon/st[…]325054464/photo/1 | |
| 08:51 | cait_ joined #koha | |
| 08:51 | drojf | cait_: https://twitter.com/swibcon/st[…]325054464/photo/1 :D |
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| 10:45 | drojf | the swib14 stream sucks today :/ |
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| 10:56 | * cait | waves again |
| 10:57 | cait | drojf: streaming is down because we had a power outage |
| 10:57 | in the whole street, i think from a building site close by killing a cable or something | |
| 10:58 | drojf | oh |
| 10:58 | oops | |
| 10:58 | cait | ltewas completeley gone |
| 10:58 | yeah :) really bad timing! | |
| 10:58 | drojf | ok that explains :D |
| 10:58 | seems to be alright again | |
| 10:58 | cait | we are back on the nternet now, but they haven't resumed the stremig yet I think |
| 10:58 | ah ok | |
| 10:58 | drojf | they have |
| 11:00 | cait | so you see skosmos |
| 11:00 | drojf | i do |
| 11:00 | or listen to, mostly | |
| 11:04 | ashimema | \ |
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| 11:13 | Joubu | Hello |
| 11:13 | Is there a valid reason to limit authorised_values.category to varchar(16)? | |
| 11:14 | cait | hmm i think if we were going to change it |
| 11:14 | you need to check tables that refer it too | |
| 11:14 | aqbudgets maybe? | |
| 11:14 | hm also patron attributes probably | |
| 11:15 | i think some things are referring to it | |
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| 11:46 | magnuse | ooh, there is a catmandu advent calendar http://librecatproject.wordpress.com/ |
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| 12:33 | tcohen | morning |
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| 12:44 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
| 12:44 | @wunder boo | |
| 12:44 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (1:20 PM CET on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:44 | tcohen | hi magnuse |
| 12:45 | what fun stuff will we work on today? | |
| 12:45 | magnuse | + hail, thunder, lightning and almost storm winds |
| 12:45 | tcohen: 3.19 :-) | |
| 12:45 | tcohen | ok :-D |
| 12:46 | we have reached 1k views on the Koha community video | |
| 12:46 | magnuse | i'm working on another norwegian specialy - importing data about all norwegian libraries into koha, for use with ill |
| 12:46 | the video is awesome! | |
| 12:47 | i'll see if i can do norwegian subtitles some time in 2015 :-) | |
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| 12:51 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:57 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
| 12:57 | oleonard: would you take a look at 13375? i'd like to know if it is a reasonable solution | |
| 12:59 | oleonard | Sure |
| 12:59 | cait joined #koha | |
| 13:00 | cait | giving up on the windows machine - back from the laptop with irc client :) |
| 13:00 | last 3 presentations now | |
| 13:00 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 13:01 | cait | hi tcohen |
| 13:05 | did i scare oleonard-away away<ß | |
| 13:05 | ? | |
| 13:05 | typing question marks on the tablet keyboard is too hard :) | |
| 13:10 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13377: mark automatic_renewals.pl as executable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66e9a9095db2f484d> |
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| 13:14 | oleonard | Nope cait just stepped out for a moment |
| 13:15 | cait | :) |
| 13:15 | we just talked about you and how great your work is here at the conf :) | |
| 13:15 | nengard | morning all |
| 13:16 | I have a series of XSLT edits that we're working on that I want to submit patches for - should each change be it's own bug/patch? or should I do 1 bug listing all changes? | |
| 13:16 | oleonard | Yay I'm famous in Europe, just like David Hasselhoff! |
| 13:17 | nengard | :) |
| 13:19 | cait | nengard: depends on the change - i like small step things with easy to follow test plans |
| 13:19 | nengard | that's what i figured |
| 13:19 | it's basically changes to make us meet the RDA standard | |
| 13:19 | cait | ah |
| 13:19 | there are some changes in for that already | |
| 13:19 | nengard | right |
| 13:19 | cait | from marcel |
| 13:20 | nengard | i just have more :) |
| 13:20 | cait | would be good to have a more complete thing |
| 13:20 | nengard | so I'm thinking 1 bug per change |
| 13:20 | just didn't want to submit too many bugs/patches | |
| 13:20 | but this way if one isn't right we can still apply the others | |
| 13:20 | sound like the safe way to go? | |
| 13:21 | oh way - i found this: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10344 | |
| 13:21 | huginn | 04Bug 10344: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Omnibus: add RDA support to Koha |
| 13:21 | nengard | cool - so i'll do more little bugs and add them to this one |
| 13:21 | as depends on | |
| 13:21 | cait | sounds good |
| 13:21 | oleonard | tcohen: Your fix for Bug 13375 works but I don't know why :) |
| 13:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13375 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Syspref search highlight styling broken in Chrome |
| 13:22 | cait | magic! |
| 13:22 | oleonard: actually was talking to denials | |
| 13:22 | so not sure if you can say europe :) | |
| 13:22 | oleonard | denials? |
| 13:22 | wahanui | i think denials is *honoured* - the quality of the other talks has been very high! |
| 13:22 | cait | but you shoudl be |
| 13:23 | od a whois :) | |
| 13:26 | magnuse | denials would be the author of e.g. bug 11786 |
| 13:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Pushed to Stable , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap |
| 13:26 | magnuse | denials++ |
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| 13:27 | cait | magnuse: go write a normarc version! |
| 13:27 | promised to nudge you | |
| 13:28 | oleonard | Oh I see. Hi denials :) |
| 13:29 | magnuse | cait: yup, i should do that. in 2015 |
| 13:29 | oleonard | tcohen: This is nit-picky, but I think that change would be better with a <div> rather than a <span> because it sometimes contains block-level elements. |
| 13:30 | cait | we can still improve it |
| 13:30 | magnuse | there is plenty of cataching up to do for normarc. 2015 will not be a lazy year |
| 13:30 | cait | we talked also about exposing more information about the library |
| 13:30 | like opening hours, teh library's name and website | |
| 13:30 | magnuse | i have been pondering one page per library |
| 13:30 | ah | |
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| 13:31 | magnuse | cait: that would be very cool |
| 13:31 | cait | i think that was the suggestion |
| 13:31 | magnuse | and it could be linked from the library name in the items tables |
| 13:31 | cait | i don't know enough about it yet |
| 13:31 | magnuse | who suggested it? |
| 13:31 | cait | go for it! :) |
| 13:32 | magnuse | we already have a popup/hover thing for the library names in the items tables, but i think it might be broken? |
| 13:32 | cait | i hope i got it right, but i think that was what denials mentioned - that we should link to a separate page |
| 13:32 | tcohen | oleonard, do u need me to try the div? |
| 13:33 | oleonard | I could just as easily post an alternate patch. It's up to you. |
| 13:33 | cait | hm it should work think |
| 13:33 | link to the library on the name and tooltip with opacinfo | |
| 13:33 | tcohen | post an alternate one if you don't mind |
| 13:33 | i can sign it | |
| 13:33 | thanks | |
| 13:35 | magnuse | cait: i was pretty sure i reported a bug, but maybe it was fixed. can't find the syspref for enabling it, though... |
| 13:36 | cait | it should starting to work when the branch settings have something in opac info i think |
| 13:36 | and i thought we had fixed it - it was broken in bootsrap for a bit i think | |
| 13:36 | tcohen | magnuse: why haven't we patched the installer to show NORMARC yet? |
| 13:36 | cait | nengard: not sure about hiding h in 245 |
| 13:36 | nengard | I have another ticket to explain where to show it |
| 13:37 | magnuse | tcohen: it shows normarc if you choose nb-NO for the installation |
| 13:37 | nengard | but feel free to reply |
| 13:37 | I'd love feedback before the work begins later this week | |
| 13:37 | cait | we use that quite a lot and it helps identifying electronic resources in the result list |
| 13:37 | i am still tavelling | |
| 13:37 | it might take me a few days | |
| 13:38 | tcohen | magnuse: it makes sense |
| 13:39 | magnuse | tcohen: that is something i would like to do - move the marc frameworks out of the language specific directories |
| 13:40 | cait | and use po? |
| 13:41 | nengard | cait - i was going to suggest moving where it displays |
| 13:41 | will put your comment on the ticket | |
| 13:41 | magnuse | right now, nb-NO has an old copy of the marc21 files from en, because i thought at one point that people might want to run the installer in norwegian and still be able to choose marc21. there is no norwegian translation of marc21, so letting them just choose the en version of marc21 would make a lot more sense than maintaining a copy |
| 13:42 | cait | magnuse: yeah - fallback |
| 13:42 | nengard: not sure about rda yet - will have training mid-january | |
| 13:42 | maybe then it will all start to make more sense :) | |
| 13:42 | nengard | :) rda says that the gmd is no longer used instead use a series of 33x fields |
| 13:43 | cait | ah |
| 13:43 | oleonard | Yeah and RDA also says that the local cataloger can do whatever the hell they want. |
| 13:43 | cait | i think one genarl thng would be that we need to take care of 'mixed record sets' |
| 13:44 | so old an dnew records should make sense in display... hope it's doable | |
| 13:44 | or we might need a second set of xslt altogether | |
| 13:47 | denials | cait, magnuse - that (one page per library, linked from the library name in the items tables) is _exactly_ what I was suggesting! yay for convergence |
| 13:48 | magnuse | denials: yay! :-) |
| 13:48 | cait | :) |
| 13:48 | magnuse | shouldn't be very hard to do |
| 13:48 | i can't get the "OPAC info tooltip" to show, though | |
| 13:49 | even with something in the opac info field | |
| 13:49 | cait | magnuse: hm any javascript errors? |
| 13:50 | magnuse | there is one if i click anywhere on the page, but not if i just hover over the name |
| 13:50 | cait | hm |
| 13:51 | magnuse | testing on 3.16.4, spinning up my kohadevbox to test on master now |
| 13:51 | druthb | cait! magnuse! |
| 13:52 | cait | druthb! |
| 13:53 | oleonard | magnuse: It works for me in master |
| 13:55 | Ah, but not in 3.16.x! | |
| 13:55 | Bug 12428? | |
| 13:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC |
| 13:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #266: UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/266/ |
| 13:55 | Robin Sheat: Bug 13377: mark automatic_renewals.pl as executable | |
| 13:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13377 major, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , automatic_renewals.pl not marked executable |
| 13:55 | oleonard | Yeah, Bug 12428 hasn't been backported |
| 13:56 | cait | hm that explains |
| 13:56 | magnuse | druthb! |
| 13:56 | wahanui | rumour has it druthb is more trouble than she's worth |
| 13:56 | oleonard | wahanui!! |
| 13:56 | wahanui | i am a bot |
| 13:56 | druthb | true dat |
| 13:57 | cait | oleonard! |
| 13:57 | wahanui | rumour has it oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did |
| 13:57 | magnuse | thanks oleonard! |
| 13:57 | so i wasn't imagining reporting a bug about that after all :-) | |
| 13:58 | * oleonard | will work up a patch for 3.16.x. |
| 13:58 | magnuse | cool! |
| 14:00 | druthb | Wonder when wahanui figured out that I'm more trouble than I'm worth. |
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| 14:00 | druthb | I mean, I know it's slow on the uptake and all, but... |
| 14:01 | cait | i guess it was you telling him that ages ago |
| 14:01 | and it's not true | |
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| 14:09 | cait | therw was a screenshot of the koha community website on the screen for a few secnds |
| 14:20 | ... here at the conf... to make some sense of that comment | |
| 14:29 | bye all | |
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| 14:35 | tcohen | bye cait! |
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| 14:43 | magnuse | denials: bug 13388 |
| 14:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13388 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add library pages to the OPAC |
| 14:44 | * magnuse | wanders off to make dinner |
| 14:52 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12123 - [Alternative patch] HTML notices can break the notice viewer <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5f0ef441da8ad52a3> / Bug 12852: C4::Bookseller should not be imported anymore <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8da98537aa1d61949> / Bug 12852: Some unused stuffs more <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh |
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| 15:37 | tcohen | @marc 111 |
| 15:37 | huginn | tcohen: A meeting name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8] |
| 15:39 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:39 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 15:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #267: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/267/ |
| 15:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12839: aqbooksellers.gstreg is never used | |
| 15:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12841: aqorders fields should not be mapped | |
| 15:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12980: GetHistory does useless processing | |
| 15:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: The "preview" param can be removed serials/claims.pl | |
| 15:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: Some unused stuffs more | |
| 15:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12839 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , aqbooksellers.gstreg is never used |
| 15:39 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: C4::Bookseller should not be imported anymore |
| 15:39 | * Liz Rea: Bug 12123 - [Alternative patch] HTML notices can break the notice viewer | |
| 15:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12841 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , aqorders fields should not be mapped |
| 15:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12980 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , GetHistory does useless processing | |
| 15:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12852 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The "preview" param is never used in serials/claims.pl | |
| 15:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12123 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , HTML notices can break the notice viewer | |
| 15:42 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:42 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 15:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_U14 build #256: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Master_U14/256/ |
| 15:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12839: aqbooksellers.gstreg is never used | |
| 15:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12841: aqorders fields should not be mapped | |
| 15:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12980: GetHistory does useless processing | |
| 15:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: The "preview" param can be removed serials/claims.pl | |
| 15:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: Some unused stuffs more | |
| 15:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12852: C4::Bookseller should not be imported anymore | |
| 15:42 | * Liz Rea: Bug 12123 - [Alternative patch] HTML notices can break the notice viewer | |
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| 15:56 | chris_n | gmcharlt++ #for saving the day... once again ;-) |
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| 16:26 | phasefx | hey guys, does Koha make use of the number of nonfiling characters from the 245 2nd indicator for title sorting? |
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| 16:35 | * phasefx | finds sort-strings-utf.chr, wonders if that should work with opac-shelves.pl |
| 16:36 | cbrannon | Hey community, got a question...on waitingreserves.pl in the Holds over tab, when you cancel a hold, if there is another hold on the item, will the item be transfered to the item's home library, like the button suggests, or will it actually to go to the pickup library where the next hold is? |
| 16:36 | oleonard | phasefx: If that affects anything it would only be with Zebra-related searches I think |
| 16:36 | opac-shelves.pl definitely does not make use of nonfiling character data | |
| 16:36 | phasefx | oleonard: roger that, thanks |
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| 17:25 | tcohen | #koha: is it possible that the XSLTs show the subfields in the order they appear on the record, instead of the order they are asked to by the XSLT? |
| 17:25 | jcamins | tcohen: depends whether you're using templates or selects. |
| 17:35 | tcohen | jcamins: I'm talking about the template subfieldSelect from MARC21slimUtils |
| 17:37 | it seems to loop over subfields, filtering in those whose code matches the ones on the subfield list | |
| 17:47 | jcamins | Right. |
| 17:48 | That's what it's supposed to do. | |
| 17:48 | What else would it do? | |
| 17:48 | No, wrong question. | |
| 17:48 | Why wouldn't it do that? | |
| 17:48 | tcohen | If you call <xsl:call-template name="subfieldSelect"> |
| 17:48 | <xsl:with-param name="codes">adceq</xsl:with-param> | |
| 17:48 | </xsl:call-template> | |
| 17:49 | you'd expect adc would be the order the subfieds are extracted | |
| 17:49 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 17:49 | tcohen | but if the record is saved, say, alphabetically sorted |
| 17:50 | it would show them alphabetically sorted | |
| 17:50 | instead | |
| 17:50 | jcamins | Right. |
| 17:50 | tcohen | it is not my fault someone decided 111 should be rendered un-alphabetically sorted |
| 17:51 | jcamins, do u agree it is a bug? or should I ask the librarians to sort the subfiedls? | |
| 17:52 | nengard | fields shouldn't always be in alpha order - just fyi |
| 17:52 | i didn't read up on marc for that field | |
| 17:52 | but it might be in that order for a reason | |
| 17:53 | tcohen | nengard: make programmers life difficult I guess |
| 17:53 | cbrannon | #koha: on waitingreserves.pl, under the Holds over tab, when you cancel a hold, if there is another hold on the item, will the item be transfered to the item's home library, like the button suggests, or will it actually go to the pickup library where the next hold is? |
| 17:53 | tcohen | the question here is: do we expect to respect subfields sorting on the specific record, or should the XSLT take care of sorting the way LOC says |
| 17:54 | oleonard | cbrannon: Try it and find out? |
| 17:54 | * tcohen | expects an answer different than "burn MARC" |
| 17:54 | chris_n | I just posted an important email to the dev list; any/all comments, help, etc. appreciated |
| 17:55 | jcamins | tcohen: the bug is that your librarians aren't doing their records right. |
| 17:55 | Well... the bug is that your librarians are using MARC. | |
| 17:55 | Tell them to stop. | |
| 17:56 | tcohen | jcamins, do we have a way to tell the marc frameworks how to sort subfields? |
| 17:56 | jcamins | tcohen: nope. |
| 17:57 | tcohen | so you're tricking me, because there's no way for them to catalog a 111 field with the correct (ilogicall) sorting |
| 17:57 | 1112#$aCongress on Machinability$d(1965 :$cRoyal Commonwealth Society) | |
| 17:57 | jcamins | Sure there is. |
| 17:57 | tcohen | 111$a$d$c is expected |
| 17:57 | jcamins | Just not in the framework. |
| 17:57 | You have to change it in the record. | |
| 17:58 | That's why they should always use authorities. | |
| 17:58 | tcohen | importing from the authority works? |
| 17:58 | jcamins | I think so. |
| 17:58 | Wait, no. | |
| 17:59 | * jcamins | just tested. |
| 17:59 | just *wishes* it worked. | |
| 17:59 | chris_n | *snap* |
| 17:59 | did that help? | |
| 18:00 | tcohen | heh |
| 18:00 | jcamins, it is a bug | |
| 18:00 | jcamins | They have to manually reorder the subfields in the cataloging editor. |
| 18:01 | * tcohen | thinks the one that will burn is him |
| 18:01 | tcohen | *burnt by the librarians |
| 18:02 | jcamins | I saw that movie. It was sad. |
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| 18:03 | rangi | Hmm that's a bit problematic |
| 18:03 | The latest support company | |
| 18:03 | tcohen | fqdn? |
| 18:04 | jcamins | rangi: it goes well with koha.ch. |
| 18:05 | rangi | That worries me less |
| 18:05 | drojf | why do they have a liblime link? |
| 18:05 | rangi | Than the link |
| 18:06 | Snap | |
| 18:06 | jcamins | Oh, I didn't bother looking at the page. |
| 18:06 | I went "oh, look at that, someone else ignoring the domain name rule," and promptly ignored them. | |
| 18:07 | tcohen | do we have a written rule for that? |
| 18:07 | drojf | koha.ch is some domain parking thing btw. like koha.de |
| 18:07 | i asked about koha.de, the person said they want 3000€. lol. they keep it | |
| 18:07 | jcamins | drojf: koha-something.ch, then. |
| 18:07 | The Postgres troll's company. | |
| 18:08 | drojf | koha-support-schweiz.ch? |
| 18:08 | the troll is long gone | |
| 18:08 | ah yes its http://www.koha-support.ch/ | |
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| 18:09 | cait | hm confused -ml? |
| 18:09 | i think yes | |
| 18:09 | on phone, slooow | |
| 18:10 | rangi | Yeah troll has parted ways and mveron is a valued participant |
| 18:11 | So I'm not worried about that so much as the links right next to each other | |
| 18:12 | On the Chile one | |
| 18:12 | jcamins | Right. |
| 18:12 | drojf | tcohen: i don't think we have a rule and i don't know if we can have one like "you're not allowed to link to whatever on your website" |
| 18:12 | rangi | But dunno how to write that email |
| 18:13 | Something like you understand they are different eh | |
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| 18:13 | rangi | I mean they submitted legal documents saying they dont do Koha |
| 18:14 | I'll sit on it for a day | |
| 18:17 | tcohen | rangi: what about the domain name? |
| 18:18 | rangi | On to more useful stuff |
| 18:18 | Did you see the package bug? | |
| 18:18 | Tcohen: that ship has sailed | |
| 18:19 | tcohen | the package bug? |
| 18:19 | rangi | Robin emailed the list, there should be a patch in passed qa |
| 18:19 | Re the cron jobs | |
| 18:20 | Not a major issue, but super easy fix | |
| 18:24 | This bus is too full | |
| 18:24 | drojf | rangi: what do you mean by that ship has sailed? in general? for that request? if they claim to be involved in the community it wouldn't hurt to at least tell them how that has been handled so far. |
| 18:26 | rangi | The domain name is kinda gone but yeah could mention. I think getting the tone right is the trick |
| 18:26 | drojf | the company seems to be sigechile.cl, so maybe kohachile.cl instead and forwarding koha.cl to k-c.org is an option |
| 18:27 | rangi | That sounds good |
| 18:28 | Tcohen: who was it that presented at kohacon? They were from Chile right? | |
| 18:28 | tcohen | nope |
| 18:28 | colombia | |
| 18:28 | there was people from chile at the conference | |
| 18:29 | rangi | Ahh right |
| 18:30 | Ahh I remember now, thanks | |
| 18:30 | They were cool | |
| 18:30 | cait_ joined #koha | |
| 18:34 | rangi | Bbiab |
| 18:35 | tcohen | they are cool actually :-D |
| 18:47 | cait_ | @wunder offenburg |
| 18:47 | huginn | cait_: The current temperature in Lahr, Friesenheim, Germany is 2.8°C (7:46 PM CET on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:48 | cait_ | feels freezingly cold |
| 18:48 | nengard | @wunder 78754 |
| 18:48 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in University Hills, Austin, Texas is 13.6°C (12:48 PM CST on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:48 | nengard | finally getting warm here again |
| 18:49 | bag | @wunder 93111 |
| 18:49 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 17.7°C (10:48 AM PST on December 03, 2014). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:51 | cait_ | stuck on platform for 15 more :( |
| 18:59 | rangi | tcohen: ohh youve already pushed it :) |
| 19:00 | cait_ | :) |
| 19:03 | cait joined #koha | |
| 19:04 | cait | train! |
| 19:04 | rangi | http://hea.koha-community.org/ notice anything differnet? |
| 19:06 | kmlussier joined #koha | |
| 19:07 | cait joined #koha | |
| 19:11 | rangi | https://github.com/biblibre/he[…]pp/commits/master aleisha did some work and Joubu merged it :) i think thats pretty cool considering she downloaded it, installed a db server, installed the perl modules, made the db, and got it all running on her computer and managed to find and patch the right file :) |
| 19:18 | cait | very cool |
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| 19:24 | cait joined #koha | |
| 19:32 | liw | I don't know if this is a feeling librarians ever have: I've just moved back to Finland, and have today gotten my bookcase and books back. Sorting through my books is a weird mix of "oh no more books" and "oh look, I'd forgotten this gem, I really liked reading it" |
| 19:33 | tcohen | bye! |
| 19:33 | cait | :) |
| 19:34 | rangi | liw: heh i think thats what happens when they do a weed |
| 19:34 | or inventory | |
| 19:34 | oh no, another harry potter | |
| 19:59 | oleonard | bye all |
| 20:00 | rangi | https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]40226070041993216 |
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| 20:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #585 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:04 | Project Koha_Docs build #585: SUCCESS in 3 min 46 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/585/ | |
| 20:04 | Nicole C. Engard: add GoogleIndicTransliteration | |
| 20:05 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 20:07 | drojf | rangi: nice tree :D |
| 20:10 | Dyrcona joined #koha | |
| 20:10 | tcohen | logs? |
| 20:10 | wahanui | logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 20:11 | tcohen | heh |
| 20:12 | rangi | i wonder where i could get a blow up menorah from |
| 20:12 | drojf | rangi: http://www.amazon.com/Menorah-[…]ion/dp/B009SES13M |
| 20:13 | rangi | heh |
| 20:13 | there had to be one :) | |
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| 20:27 | nengard left #koha | |
| 20:33 | tcohen | heh |
| 20:38 | alvet joined #koha | |
| 20:46 | tcohen | hi talljoy |
| 20:46 | talljoy | hi tcohen |
| 20:46 | what's new? | |
| 20:46 | wahanui | new is not instantiated anywhere in bug 11023 |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11023 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Toggle new status for items |
| 20:46 | rangi | heya alvet |
| 20:46 | wahanui: forget new | |
| 20:46 | wahanui | rangi: I forgot new |
| 20:46 | talljoy | better. |
| 20:46 | hi tcohen what's new? | |
| 20:47 | :-) | |
| 20:48 | tcohen | not much, waiting for manuel to come outside |
| 20:48 | :-D | |
| 20:49 | cait joined #koha | |
| 20:52 | rangi | heh, soon now eh tcohen ? |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | I am excited about more kohababies. |
| 20:53 | tcohen | yeah, we are on the 38th week, we've been told it will happen "from now on..." |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | you are on "dad high alert" |
| 20:54 | cait | :) |
| 20:54 | tcohen | yeah, cancelled two trips this week |
| 20:55 | hi cait | |
| 20:55 | cait | not quite home yet |
| 21:01 | cait joined #koha | |
| 21:01 | cait | grr |
| 21:02 | tcohen | wb cait |
| 21:03 | cait | thx |
| 21:08 | cait_ joined #koha | |
| 21:26 | eythian | hi |
| 21:26 | denials | magnuse: I loof forward to trying it out! |
| 21:26 | s/loof/look/ :) | |
| 21:27 | * cait_ | waves |
| 21:27 | cait_ | almost home now - on the bus |
| 21:28 | it was nice to meet you in person denials :) | |
| 21:41 | cait joined #koha | |
| 21:46 | magnuse | denials: i'm not promising anything - would be fun to work on, but here's hoping someone beats me to it :-) |
| 21:46 | actually, i'd prefer to spend any free koha hacking time on getting semantikoha going | |
| 21:49 | cait | home!! |
| 21:49 | real internet! | |
| 21:50 | rambutan | cookies! |
| 21:50 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 21:53 | magnuse | welcome home cait! |
| 21:53 | and have fun #koha! | |
| 21:55 | cait | night magnuse |
| 22:03 | eythian | cait: are you getting the catmandu USB sticks? |
| 22:03 | save me one, would you? :) | |
| 22:04 | cait | i am sorry, i got only one |
| 22:04 | in the workshop | |
| 22:04 | eythian | aww |
| 22:04 | well go back and get another :D | |
| 22:04 | cait | you could havetold me about them... like |
| 22:04 | yesterday | |
| 22:04 | wahanui | yesterday is almost over for me, and it's been pretty awful. |
| 22:04 | cait | or the day before yesterday |
| 22:05 | and i would have gotten one for you | |
| 22:05 | eythian | I just saw an email about them now, which reminded me |
| 22:05 | cait | gr. |
| 22:05 | maybe you could ask them to send you one? | |
| 22:05 | they had bags full of them | |
| 22:05 | eythian | I might do that :) |
| 22:08 | cait | because now you mademe feel bad for not having one for you |
| 22:08 | and oyu need to fix this | |
| 22:08 | eythian | haha |
| 22:09 | I don't quite see how you not getting one becomes my problem to fix all of a sudden...:) | |
| 22:10 | cait | hmpf |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | danger will robinson. danger. |
| 22:11 | * wizzyrea | senses a travel weary cait |
| 22:11 | cait | a bit |
| 22:11 | long 3 days | |
| 22:12 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 22:12 | eythian | and she still has to write up everything she learnt and send it to me. |
| 22:12 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 22:12 | eythian | hi kathryn |
| 22:15 | kathryn | hi eythian :) |
| 22:15 | and hi all | |
| 22:15 | aleisha | hi kathryn! |
| 22:15 | kathryn | hi aleisha! |
| 22:20 | cait | hi kathryn and aleisha :) |
| 22:20 | kathryn | hiya cait :) |
| 22:22 | aleisha | hi cait! |
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| 22:41 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 22:42 | eythian++ # thanks for the deb, able to test now without installing from source. | |
| 22:42 | eythian | no problem |
| 22:43 | mtompset | Just wish the test plan step 6 was a little more verbose. :) |
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| 22:59 | tcohen | @seen dcook |
| 22:59 | huginn | tcohen: dcook was last seen in #koha 2 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <dcook> Well, hopefully maybe not.. |
| 23:00 | eythian | he's been surprisingly quiet lately |
| 23:06 | tcohen | yeap :( |
| 23:18 | @later tell dcook come back, we miss you | |
| 23:18 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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