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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | mtompset | The whole CPL/MPL/whatever branch code expectation drives me nuts! |
| 00:02 | tcohen | i hate I cannot choose the language for SQL files unless i created the translations |
| 00:03 | mtompset | Okay, I'm confused, tcohen. |
| 00:03 | If I apply just my patch, I don't get any errors in my testing. | |
| 00:03 | Do you have holds? | |
| 00:03 | Because I don't think I do. | |
| 00:05 | tcohen | you don't see warnings with your patch? |
| 00:06 | mtompset | No. |
| 00:06 | I'm testing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. | |
| 00:06 | What were you running under? | |
| 00:06 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 00:06 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 00:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #160: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]_U12_MariaDB/160/ |
| 00:08 | mtompset | I'll attempt my Debian VM. |
| 00:08 | tcohen | Perl 5.18 (14.04) |
| 00:08 | mtompset | I just did a fresh 14.04 Koha install the other night, I'll try it there too. |
| 00:09 | Interesting Debian has warnings. | |
| 00:10 | And that fixes them. :) | |
| 00:10 | tcohen | mtompset: http://snag.gy/j2NmP.jpg |
| 00:13 | mtompset | Yes, only on Debian, not 12.04 LTS. :) |
| 00:14 | Debian Wheezy. | |
| 00:14 | wahanui | debian wheezy is supposed to be released 4th/5th of may. does that have any consequences for koha? |
| 00:25 | mtompset | tcohen: is the item type ever null within Koha? |
| 00:40 | tcohen: I signed it off. | |
| 00:46 | dtweed joined #koha | |
| 00:52 | dtweed | Can any Dev's tell me if the field borrowers.debarred is used for anything any more? |
| 00:53 | eythian | a quick look grep through the code indicates it's referenced in quite a few places |
| 00:54 | dtweed | I've been tracing it for a couple of hours, and it looks like the table borrower_debarments is used instead since about 3.14 |
| 00:54 | wizzyrea | that was a reasonably recent change, yeah. |
| 00:55 | I think it's still there to accommodate legacy data | |
| 00:55 | the first question? | |
| 00:55 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 00:55 | dtweed | I seem to be getting performace issues at check in for patrons who have a date in that field, and was trying to ficure out why. |
| 00:56 | wizzyrea | ah yeah that's a bug |
| 00:57 | eythian | that's right, there's some ludicrous date comparison loop thing, iirc |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11846 |
| 00:57 | huginn | 04Bug 11846: major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Correct database update for debarments with 9999-12-31 |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | but that's not exactly it - there's another |
| 00:57 | eythian | @query debarred |
| 00:57 | huginn | eythian: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , Support the patron internet resources field in Sip2 |
| 00:57 | eythian: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13025 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Software error: Undefined subroutine &C4::Circulation::HasOverdues called at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Circulation.pm line 1925 | |
| 00:57 | eythian: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6775 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, shinoy.m, NEW , Add option to use authorized values as reasons for restrictions | |
| 00:57 | eythian: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3777 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , Field Sizes Inconsistent | |
| 00:58 | eythian: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Discharge management | |
| 00:58 | eythian | none of those it seems |
| 00:59 | dtweed | hmmm.. I couldn't find anyone that seemed to fit, but also, it appeared there was talk about have that field switched back to a boolean anyways. |
| 01:00 | wizzyrea | well it's a moot point now really, as that isn't handled there that I know of. |
| 01:00 | I do recall we had a report of this exact thing tho | |
| 01:00 | dtweed | you don't happen to know where the 'ludicrous date comparison loop thing..' is? |
| 01:01 | eythian | no, it was ages since I last saw it, my memory might be wrong too |
| 01:02 | dtweed | thanks anyways. I'll find it eventually. |
| 01:02 | wizzyrea | yeah, it was that first one that fixed it |
| 01:02 | bug 11846 | |
| 01:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11846 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Correct database update for debarments with 9999-12-31 |
| 01:03 | wizzyrea | UPDATE borrower_debarments SET expiration = NULL WHERE expiration = '9999-12-31' |
| 01:03 | might check your borrower_debarments table for that ludicrous date. | |
| 01:06 | dtweed | That bug fix doesn't address the checkin issues, just how the debarments are copied in to the new table. |
| 01:06 | wizzyrea | oh check in - sorry I misunderstood |
| 01:06 | dtweed | np |
| 01:06 | wizzyrea | yeah that's a new one I think. |
| 01:06 | what version are you on? | |
| 01:07 | dtweed | 3.16 ( |
| 01:09 | I was just trying to figure out where in the checkin process borrowers.debarred was looked at (and why). | |
| 01:09 | I noticed that if I just change the date from the 9999... to any other date I didn't experience the issue at check in. | |
| 01:10 | wizzyrea | yeah, close dates work ok |
| 01:10 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13226 seems kind of similar, but would be for 3.18 | |
| 01:10 | huginn | 04Bug 13226: major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference |
| 01:12 | dtweed | The root of that problem if probably the same, just a different symptom |
| 01:12 | Thanks for the info anyways. I'll just keep looking through the perl and see what I can find. | |
| 01:13 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 01:13 | dtweed | UCq85yg2 |
| 01:13 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 01:13 | dcook | ? |
| 01:13 | wizzyrea | better change that. ;) |
| 01:13 | tcohen | me too |
| 01:13 | dtweed | oops |
| 01:14 | wizzyrea | rangi: can you strike that from the log when you have a minute ^.^ thanks |
| 01:14 | rangi | yep, id still change it right now |
| 01:14 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 01:15 | thanks rangi | |
| 01:15 | dtweed | changed. |
| 01:15 | wizzyrea | supergood |
| 01:15 | dtweed | thanks, this is what happens when you have too many keyboards |
| 01:16 | tcohen | rangi: is it possible to restart jenkins? |
| 01:16 | from the UI? | |
| 01:16 | rangi | yep |
| 01:16 | tcohen | looks like the debian 6 node is stuck |
| 01:16 | but no symptoms | |
| 01:16 | it happened to debian 7 until you reloaded it on upgrade | |
| 01:17 | jenkins bug | |
| 01:18 | rangi | i have to upgrade a bunch of plugins and it needs an upgrade in general |
| 01:18 | so ill do all that | |
| 01:18 | tcohen | rangi++ |
| 01:22 | jenkins_koha joined #koha | |
| 01:26 | jenkins_koha joined #koha | |
| 01:33 | rangi | tcohen: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/computer/ |
| 01:33 | something up with ubuntu mariadb's clock? | |
| 01:49 | tcohen | oh, tz |
| 01:49 | will check | |
| 02:36 | irma_ joined #koha | |
| 02:49 | tcohen | night #koha |
| 02:56 | Phlunk3 | long shot, but we have a school who want to use wheelers e-books in conjunction with Koha, the wheelers team told us they have some clients already using koha and I would love to hear from you if you have been involved with such a project. |
| 03:01 | eythian | Phlunk3: we have a couple using it. |
| 03:01 | It's pretty simple, iirc | |
| 03:01 | they just authenticate against koha using SIP2 | |
| 03:09 | wizzyrea | yeah, nbd really |
| 03:10 | Even uses the default terminators and such. | |
| 03:13 | Phlunk3 | cool, thought as much. Will have to have a look at sip setup on that server. thank you. |
| 03:14 | eythian | dcook: there's no need to pass null as it'll just work anyway |
| 03:15 | Phlunk3: if you have packages installed, start with sudo koha-sip-enable | |
| 03:15 | dcook | eythian: If you have it set up to auto-update |
| 03:16 | eythian | dcook: which you'd do on creation in the schema :) |
| 03:16 | dcook | Actually, I can't get it to update even using a null with DBIC |
| 03:16 | eythian: Ideally, yeah :D | |
| 03:16 | I don't think DBIC handles nulls so well.. | |
| 03:16 | eythian | that surprises me |
| 03:16 | dcook | Oh wait, I'm probably an idiot |
| 03:16 | which shouldn't surprise anyone :p | |
| 03:17 | Apparently I'm not as smart as the script.. | |
| 03:17 | Ok, it does work sending a null :p | |
| 03:20 | alvet joined #koha | |
| 03:24 | dcook | I'm curious as to what we'll decide as I'm looking at making two new tables and both have a timestamp column :p |
| 03:36 | Actually, I think I might just make 'created' and 'updated' columns... | |
| 03:36 | But if I do that without a decision, then it just adds to the diversity of ways that we do things.. | |
| 03:37 | eythian | quietly add to the coding guidelines :) |
| 03:37 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:37 | eythian | imo, an auto-updating created/updated is the best approach as it requires minimal/no code changes |
| 03:39 | dcook | Agreed |
| 03:40 | I wonder what sort of support Postgres has for it... not that we support Postgres anyway | |
| 03:40 | eythian | I'd say we burn that bridge when we get to it |
| 03:40 | you can do it with functions in postgres anyway | |
| 03:40 | (if you can't do it directly) | |
| 03:42 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:42 | Yeah, I figure it's that same thing with optimization, yeah? | |
| 03:42 | There's been a few times now where having a timestamp column has been frustrating | |
| 03:42 | When really what you needed to know was when the row was created and last updated | |
| 03:42 | I think reserves might be an example of this... or possibly issues | |
| 03:43 | Actually... they both have timestamps with no context... | |
| 03:43 | And other datetime columns that actually have meaning | |
| 03:44 | I suppose going with 'created/updated' could require a fair number of changes actually... | |
| 03:44 | eythian | that's part of why I was saying "timestamp" is a terrible name as you don't know what it is. |
| 03:44 | dcook | We would need to make sure we're not using timestamp for anything |
| 03:44 | Yeah, I totally get that now | |
| 03:45 | eythian | as for postgres, there's a development philosophy called "YAGNI" (you ain't gonna need it) which suggests that if it's not something you need now, don't waste time implementing it. |
| 03:46 | if you need it later, do it then. If you never need it, then don't. And don't carry round technical debt for something you don't need right now. | |
| 03:46 | dcook | I certainly see the merit of that |
| 03:46 | But what about if you're too shortsighted when designing a system | |
| 03:46 | And you design your way into a corner which requires a rewrite to do something that should've been done right in the beginning? | |
| 03:46 | eythian | then you refactor |
| 03:46 | dcook | Fair enough |
| 03:47 | I suppose YAGNI still applies at the start.. and if you miss something... that has more to do with requirements gathering than anything | |
| 03:49 | As I look over the db... it looks like `timestamp` is the same as `updated` | |
| 03:49 | And that we use more specific names for `created` like `reservedate` and `issuedate` | |
| 03:49 | eythian | yep. You still should design in a way that allows extensibility where reasonable, but don't spend time on things you're not needing at the moment. |
| 03:50 | well, I sorta see created and updated as database-level things | |
| 03:51 | they're like metadata for the row, rather than things like issuedate which are data. | |
| 03:51 | also, issuedate etc should be datetime not timestamp probably | |
| 03:51 | dcook | It may very well be datetime |
| 03:52 | Not sure | |
| 03:52 | Yeah, I was thinking about it as metadata for a row as well rather than data, but... *shrug* | |
| 03:52 | eythian | yeah,it's more you can't do the auto stuff with datetime, but datetime can go past the unixpocalyse. |
| 03:52 | dcook | That's not too far away, isn't it? |
| 03:53 | Hmm double negative.. | |
| 03:53 | It's close, yeah? | |
| 03:53 | eythian | 2038 |
| 03:53 | dcook | Reasonably close |
| 03:54 | I recall checking our systems a while back.. | |
| 03:54 | * eythian | is trying to get the elasticsearch/catmandu stuff to work on ubuntu LTS. This is going to be hard. |
| 03:55 | dcook | Why's that? |
| 03:55 | eythian | libmoo-perl depends on libmodule-runtime-perl (>= 0.014); however: |
| 03:55 | Version of libmodule-runtime-perl on system is 0.013-1. | |
| 03:55 | lots of that sort of thing | |
| 03:55 | dcook | Ugh :( |
| 03:56 | Good luck with that :) | |
| 03:56 | eythian | I'm tempted to be lazy and cpan it all, but that's Bad |
| 03:56 | dcook | Probably |
| 03:56 | wajasu | i just got docker package builds working. about to see if they install. so i can do some ubuntu signoff tests |
| 03:56 | eythian | oh interesting |
| 03:56 | wahanui | i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 03:56 | dcook | I really need to play with docker one of these days... |
| 03:57 | * eythian | needs to... |
| 03:57 | eythian | yeah, that |
| 03:57 | wahanui | somebody said yeah, that was cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
| 03:57 | eythian | I've used it a little, but I don't really understand it yet |
| 03:57 | dcook | Yeah, I listened to one presentation at SLUG, but that's about it |
| 03:57 | I hope future baby likes to sleep, so we can chill out together while daddy plays on the computer | |
| 03:58 | Of course, I'll babywear so that they start their love of computers from a young age :p | |
| 03:58 | wajasu | should be able to put elasticsearch in its own container and use as a component |
| 03:59 | if you are running wheezy 64bit, you can install the linux kernel backport and docker works. | |
| 03:59 | no pbuilder. | |
| 04:00 | dcook | Ahh, right, that's why I've been putting it off |
| 04:00 | I'd have to use the backport. I think I was thinking of switching to Ubuntu as there was already support going back to... | |
| 04:00 | I can't remember how far back, but it was advertised at least | |
| 04:02 | wajasu | i have apt-cacher-ng as an apt proxy/cache and now i can have my container builds dselect and pull from it wihtout hitting net. good for laptop hackfest work. |
| 04:02 | dcook | In other news: http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/a[…]-russian-warships |
| 04:02 | The sad thing is that the satire articles sound so similar to the non-satire... | |
| 04:03 | eythian | dcook: http://youtu.be/RXZAfYrMYko http://youtu.be/WgvuF-72YCc |
| 04:04 | * dcook | facepalm |
| 04:04 | wahanui | http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg |
| 04:07 | wajasu | i was struggling getting wheezy pkg builds to find some othe "special" pkgs in the koha squeeze-dev repo, but i might just dget them individually wihtout adding squeeze to my sources.list |
| 04:08 | eythian | it should just work |
| 04:08 | assuming you have the sources added | |
| 04:08 | if you don't then it won't | |
| 04:08 | but you can install koha-perl-deps | |
| 04:09 | wajasu | i'll add the squeeze ones this time. |
| 04:10 | eythian | if it's for dev, then use squeeze-dev |
| 04:12 | wajasu | ok. just trying to save time for signoffs. |
| 04:13 | eythian | I put all packages into all sections, but koha-perl-deps will be the most current in squeeze-dev |
| 04:19 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
| 04:20 | eythian | arg this sodding module has XS |
| 04:20 | I don't have a crosscompiler set up :/ | |
| 04:21 | Maybe I'll put it into debian and let them do the hard work | |
| 04:23 | dcook | :D |
| 04:23 | irma_ joined #koha | |
| 04:26 | eythian | oh, they've already started to package it! |
| 04:26 | that's good | |
| 04:31 | have you guys heard about the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon? It's like it's been talked about everywhere lately. | |
| 04:32 | jcamins | lol |
| 04:32 | dcook | I'm trying to think of a good response but I have nothing |
| 04:33 | eythian | why don't I have a 64-bit build machine? This is annoying. |
| 04:33 | BobB | http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/a[…]-russian-warships |
| 04:33 | jcamins | eythian: you don't have a 64-bit build machine? |
| 04:33 | eythian | no, I'm using a VM I set up ages ago as 32 bit for some stupid reason |
| 04:34 | ah hah | |
| 04:34 | * eythian | finally finds the debian .deb files |
| 04:34 | steals | |
| 04:35 | eythian | that didn't work :( |
| 04:36 | libmarpa-r2-perl depends on perl (>= 5.20.0-4); however: | |
| 04:36 | Version of perl on system is 5.18.2-2ubuntu1. | |
| 04:36 | that's a bit of a brick wall | |
| 04:36 | dcook | BobB: Did you see me post that link above? :p |
| 04:37 | What depends on Perl > 5.20? :S | |
| 04:37 | eythian | Marpa::R2 |
| 04:37 | which is a parser thingy | |
| 04:37 | dcook | :S |
| 04:37 | BobB | oh, well done dcook |
| 04:37 | dcook | Isn't 5.20 the latest version? |
| 04:37 | BobB: I'm just glad we both found it post worthy :p | |
| 04:38 | eythian | yep |
| 04:38 | BobB | what a farce: we are a joke |
| 04:38 | dcook | It is a joke though |
| 04:38 | "The Backburner is Australia's most trusted news source. It is quite obviously satire and shouldn't be taken seriously." | |
| 04:39 | I was a bit surprised to see SBS posting "comedy" though... | |
| 04:39 | BobB | no dcook Australian government policy is the joke |
| 04:39 | the backburner and other's just convey to us the extent of it | |
| 04:40 | dcook | Yeah, that's pretty true |
| 04:40 | I suppose I should watch what I say on logged channels though of course :p | |
| 04:41 | As an immigrant, I have encountered some really baffling stuff | |
| 04:41 | eythian | I haven't speaken to an Australian who disagrees |
| 04:41 | dcook | ^ |
| 04:41 | eythian | in fact, most of them go on at great length about it |
| 04:41 | dcook: no, they're just normal Australian things | |
| 04:41 | dcook | I almost wrote "dcook:" hehe |
| 04:41 | eythian | I mean, "doonas", "thongs", ... |
| 04:42 | "eskys" | |
| 04:42 | dcook | eythian: I suppose you're not talking to the rich people, the poor people, or the rural people |
| 04:42 | eythian | it's all weird all the time over there |
| 04:42 | dcook | eythian: You mean kiwis don't use those words? |
| 04:42 | eythian | dcook: yeah |
| 04:42 | no we don't | |
| 04:42 | dcook | O_O |
| 04:42 | eythian | we use the normal words |
| 04:42 | dcook | Good to hear :) |
| 04:42 | * dcook | still refuses to say doona or esky |
| 04:42 | eythian | "duvets", "jandels", "chilly bins" |
| 04:43 | *jandals | |
| 04:43 | dcook | I'm willing to say "thongs" as that's just old fashioned in Canada |
| 04:43 | jandels? chilly bins? | |
| 04:43 | eythian | yeah, the normal words |
| 04:43 | dcook | err jandals* |
| 04:43 | hehe | |
| 04:43 | I do like it better than thong | |
| 04:43 | chilly bin also seems accurate | |
| 04:44 | while I think esky was a brand? | |
| 04:44 | eythian | so was chilly bin, I think |
| 04:44 | dcook | Hmm, still is I think |
| 04:44 | I guess we used a brand name too. What was it... | |
| 04:44 | Haven't heard it since I was a kid | |
| 04:44 | We mostly call them "coolers" | |
| 04:44 | There used to be a word you'd hear in the country though | |
| 04:45 | I think Saskatchewan still has dibs on "bunny hug" | |
| 04:45 | eythian | that sounds terrifying |
| 04:45 | dcook | When you say it like that, I wish I could draw... |
| 04:45 | It's just a pull over hoodie | |
| 04:46 | eythian | like, one without a zip? |
| 04:46 | dcook | Yep |
| 04:46 | Hooded sweatshirt with a pocket in front | |
| 04:47 | eythian | ah yep |
| 04:47 | dcook | Sometimes called a kangaroo jacket in Saskatchewan as well I think |
| 04:47 | Or maybe others call it that? | |
| 04:47 | eythian | I'd assume that was one made out of kangaroo leather |
| 04:47 | (a jacket, that is) | |
| 04:47 | dcook | That would be more logical |
| 04:47 | The internet suggests both | |
| 04:48 | All right... running the OAI client for its first full run. Let's see how much I can break this thing.. | |
| 04:50 | eythian | > sudo dpkg --force-depends -i libmarpa-r2-perl_2.086000~dfsg-3+b1_amd64.deb |
| 04:50 | solved! | |
| 04:50 | (by cheating) | |
| 04:51 | if it doesn't explode, I'll consider that a success | |
| 04:51 | dcook | Mine exploded almost immediately |
| 04:51 | That's what I get for making so many changes | |
| 04:52 | Mmm looks good this time.. | |
| 04:53 | Hmm, lookin' good | |
| 04:56 | And this is when dcook realizes that he hasn't built the UI for configuring target OAI servers yet... | |
| 04:56 | Mostly built it last year though... can probably reuse the code | |
| 04:56 | DBIC actually does make this way easier | |
| 04:57 | And once you've figured out its funky syntax, it makes a fair bit of sense | |
| 04:57 | eythian | yeah |
| 04:58 | I have a project I'm working on of my own and I wish I used that. | |
| 04:58 | I did everything else right (I like to think) but not that | |
| 04:58 | dcook | that? |
| 04:58 | wahanui | hmmm... that is the intended behavior? |
| 04:58 | eythian | now I get annoyed when I need to extend my schema and have to write SQL joins. |
| 04:58 | that == not use DBIC | |
| 04:58 | dcook | Mmm |
| 04:58 | eythian | well, the second one |
| 04:58 | wahanui | the second one is pulling it from |
| 04:59 | eythian | the first one is just == DBIC |
| 04:59 | it made sense in my head | |
| 04:59 | dcook | I think it makes sense when I read it again |
| 05:00 | I suppose I'll leave `timestamp` for now... just so it's consistent | |
| 05:01 | eythian | but what's it going to mean? |
| 05:01 | dcook | last updated :p |
| 05:02 | Mmm, but it would be nice to have added and updated... | |
| 05:02 | Especially since the main harvest table gets populated by one job, then processed by another job | |
| 05:03 | eythian | then do it |
| 05:03 | wahanui: standards | |
| 05:03 | wahanui | the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from! |
| 05:03 | dcook | lol |
| 05:17 | What is you say about .pl scripts, eythian? | |
| 05:17 | That they should be super short? | |
| 05:18 | eythian | I think so, yeah. Business logic should be modules. |
| 05:18 | display/output logic can be in the .pl or the .tt (in regular cases.) | |
| 05:18 | dcook | I think my importer.pl is about 32 lines |
| 05:18 | That includes the licence | |
| 05:18 | eythian | sounds ideal :) |
| 05:18 | print it and frame it | |
| 05:18 | dcook | haha |
| 05:18 | I think I could make it shorter but then that feels like taking it a bit overboard.. | |
| 05:19 | eythian | yeah, keep it clear is the primary thing |
| 05:19 | dcook | Yeah, in this case the .pl is pretty much just retrieving the required rows from the DB (via DBIC) and then processing them (via the .pm I made) |
| 05:19 | I think it's obvious what it's doing | |
| 05:20 | For heavy lifting, a person can look at the module | |
| 05:21 | eythian | I'd probably have the DBIC stuff in the module too, but that's really just being picky |
| 05:21 | dcook | I was thinking a bit about that |
| 05:21 | eythian | (and may not suit your case) |
| 05:21 | dcook | It probably could work |
| 05:22 | It makes for a super short script, but it is pretty basic what it needs to do | |
| 05:22 | Iterate through the records, transform the XML via XSLT, and either add the record to Koha or update an existing record | |
| 05:23 | Hmm, I suppose I should be thinking about how to make this testable... | |
| 05:23 | / I should've been writing my test as I went | |
| 05:24 | eythian | I hate doing that. It works best, but it makes the development feels so slow, even though it's faster in the end. |
| 05:25 | dcook | Those feels |
| 05:25 | eythian | yay, my USB SDR should arrive tomorrow. That'll give me something to play with in the weekend. |
| 05:26 | dcook | USB SDR? |
| 05:26 | eythian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S[…]are-defined_radio <-- in my case, a cheap USB wideband radio receiver to work with GNU Radio |
| 05:29 | dcook | Oooo, that sounds like a fun weekend |
| 05:29 | Hmm, I don't have anything scheduled for my weekend. | |
| 05:29 | That can only mean... I forgot to write down my schedule. | |
| 05:30 | eythian | https://www.kiwicon.org/site_media/sdr.nfo <-- I have that in about a month to learn more about it |
| 05:30 | (I managed to get into the free course) | |
| 05:31 | dcook | O_O |
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| 05:32 | dcook | Very jealous |
| 05:32 | I really hope my children are really into technology | |
| 05:32 | eythian | you should come to kiwicon |
| 05:32 | https://kiwicon.org/ <-- I've probably posted this here already | |
| 05:32 | dcook | I'm trying to recall the dates.. |
| 05:32 | December something? | |
| 05:33 | 11 and 12 | |
| 05:33 | wahanui | 23 |
| 05:33 | eythian | yeah |
| 05:33 | dcook | I think we're due for another scan around then so that's probably a no go |
| 05:34 | hehe | |
| 05:34 | "Welcome to Kiwicon 8 where - just like computer security - its always 1989!" | |
| 05:34 | eythian | ah well |
| 05:34 | dcook | One of these days... |
| 05:34 | I know I always say that, but one of these days it'll actually be true and I will come over :p | |
| 05:34 | eythian | yeah, they always ahve an entertaining site |
| 05:35 | dcook | Down to 23 lines |
| 05:36 | eythian | if you get it to zero, excluding comments, you've won ;) |
| 05:37 | dcook | lol |
| 05:37 | I feel like I could get it down to 22... | |
| 05:37 | So only 3 lines of actual code :p | |
| 05:37 | It's currently 4 | |
| 05:39 | I feel like "Koha::OAI::Importer->new()->import_records();" might be cheating | |
| 05:39 | eythian | heh |
| 05:40 | dcook | Worked though.. |
| 05:41 | eythian | that's what counts |
| 05:41 | dcook | I thought doing things the right way or the best way was what counted the most though :p |
| 05:42 | eythian | foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds ;) |
| 05:45 | dcook | Seems like chaining methods is something that has been talked about a little bit at least |
| 05:45 | eythian | oh yeah, typically it's fine |
| 05:46 | a few years ago java had a thing about doing it to make semantic sense where you'd chain a whole lot of things together | |
| 05:46 | dcook | Yeah, it seems really common in a few languages |
| 05:46 | Now that I think about it, I suppose I've done it a few times... | |
| 05:46 | Actually, possibly even in the other script.. | |
| 05:47 | Yep, I totes do | |
| 05:47 | $record->metadata->dom->toString | |
| 05:47 | eythian | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~e[…]ngs/Bindings.java <-- like those bind lines there |
| 05:48 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Koha's shortest cronjob?" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/285 |
| 05:48 | eythian | needs more POD ;) |
| 05:49 | dcook | hehe |
| 05:49 | I didn't know we put POD in .pl :O | |
| 05:49 | I guess we do in the cronjobs.. | |
| 05:49 | eythian | I don't think there's a reason not to, but it'd be good to have something that says what calling this is going to achieve |
| 05:49 | dcook | Agreed |
| 05:50 | And probably some requirements for it doing anything | |
| 05:50 | Mmm, might have it print out something as well | |
| 05:50 | eythian | hrm, I was going to leave now I have Catmandu installing, but then Sisters of Mercy came on. |
| 05:50 | dcook | At the moment it's very uninformative |
| 05:50 | Stay? | |
| 05:50 | Dang, I was sure wahanui would have something for that | |
| 05:50 | What's the line.. | |
| 05:51 | eythian | "Stay a while. Stay forever!" ? |
| 05:51 | dcook | "Please stay a while. And I promise I won't keep you long. I'll keep you forever" |
| 05:51 | eythian | it shouldn't output by default, but having a verbose option would be good. |
| 05:51 | dcook | ooo, good one |
| 05:51 | eythian | a suitable thing to pass to the constructor |
| 05:52 | dcook | After all, if it's outputting by default, people will just be dumping it out to dev/null anyway |
| 05:52 | Yeah? | |
| 05:52 | eythian | perhaps have a look at bug 12952 too |
| 05:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Log koha actions to syslog too |
| 05:53 | eythian | that way you could log to syslog which would be nice, or console if there's a command line option. |
| 05:53 | or something like that. | |
| 05:53 | well, cronjobs get emailed to the admin | |
| 05:53 | that's annoying if it's noise. | |
| 05:53 | it's how I'd do it, so the object knows it should be verbose and outputs things it's supposed to. | |
| 05:53 | dcook | I suppose a person could add multiple verbosity options |
| 05:54 | eythian | if you like, though I'd just go for quiet and not quiet. |
| 05:54 | dcook | And have the minimal verbosity just for warnings/errors |
| 05:54 | eythian | they should always log if they're likely to be important |
| 05:54 | dcook | Ideally, the db should record all the important info |
| 05:54 | Except maybe... | |
| 05:55 | When the matching goes awry | |
| 05:55 | eythian | well, errors or weird data or something should log to syslog |
| 05:55 | dcook | Then it just reports that there was an error |
| 05:55 | eythian | or even just stderr |
| 05:55 | dcook | warns go to stderr, yeah? |
| 05:55 | eythian | jup |
| 05:56 | dcook | Hmm, so nothing is using syslog at the moment? |
| 05:56 | Wait.. | |
| 05:56 | eythian | only the SIP stuff, which totally vomits |
| 05:56 | dcook | Never mind that |
| 05:56 | Yeah? | |
| 05:57 | eythian | it's super noisy |
| 05:57 | dcook | Is SIP the only thing that uses C4::Log::logaction? |
| 05:57 | eythian | no, it's for logging to the database |
| 05:57 | I think | |
| 05:57 | i.e. action_log | |
| 05:57 | dcook | Well this bug adds syslog into that |
| 05:57 | eythian | yeah |
| 05:57 | dcook | So if you have syslog set up in your koha-conf.xml, it'll go to both? |
| 05:58 | eythian | so log monitoring stuff can collect stats better. |
| 05:58 | I think so | |
| 05:58 | dcook | I would really love better logging |
| 05:59 | Hmm, any good examples regarding sending the verbosity flag to the constructor? | |
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| 05:59 | dcook | I suppose if a person makes an accessor it'll be nicer than $self->{verbose} |
| 06:00 | I wonder how many OAI servers actually use UTC... | |
| 06:01 | eythian | have a look at how class::accessor does it |
| 06:01 | * eythian | departs |
| 06:01 | eythian | later |
| 06:01 | dcook | ta |
| 06:04 | Yeah... I don't think Koha necessarily handles time right... | |
| 06:04 | For the OAI server | |
| 06:10 | blarg | |
| 06:11 | * cait | waves |
| 06:11 | dcook | yo cait |
| 06:11 | * dcook | really should leave now |
| 06:12 | cait | heh |
| 06:13 | * dcook | debates trying to fix oai.pl or just going with the consistent error... |
| 06:14 | dcook | Probably the consistent error... |
| 06:14 | As I'll be harvesting from Koha into Koha | |
| 06:14 | And fixing one will just cause unexpected results | |
| 06:14 | And there is no guarantee the fix will go out to all the Kohas I need to harvest from...:S | |
| 06:14 | Oh well. That's why it's 5:15pm | |
| 06:14 | Have a good day, cait :) | |
| 06:21 | cait | have a nice evening :) |
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| 06:34 | Rebaz | Hello guys , |
| 06:36 | I am a new user of Koha , recently we have installed koha system in the library , and we have inserted more than 10000 books , now I want to print all the books with their DC , | |
| 06:36 | any help will be appreciated please | |
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| 07:28 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:33 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
| 07:49 | marcelr | hi reiveune |
| 07:50 | reiveune | bonjour marcelr magnuse |
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| 07:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:56 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
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| 08:42 | cait | morning #koha |
| 09:01 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 09:05 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 09:28 | paul_p | hi #koha |
| 09:28 | magnuse around ? | |
| 09:30 | ashimema | morning #koha |
| 09:31 | cait | hi paul_p and ashimema |
| 09:34 | marcelr | hi paul_p ashimema |
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| 10:44 | bigbrovar | @wunder abuja |
| 10:44 | huginn | bigbrovar: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 10:44 | bigbrovar | :-i |
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| 12:07 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 12:45 | cait | hi drojf and khall |
| 12:45 | khall | hi! |
| 12:47 | drojf | hi! :) |
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| 13:04 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:05 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 13:05 | * cait | is happy because at home waits a new kitchen! |
| 13:05 | cait | ... only I have to work a bit longer |
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| 13:06 | oleonard | Did you get a visit from the kitchen fairy cait? |
| 13:08 | cait | something like that :) |
| 13:09 | i had a very minimalistic kitchen in the last years - it's a huge upgrade in features :) | |
| 13:09 | real oven! | |
| 13:09 | freezer! | |
| 13:11 | oleonard | Real oven + freezer = Freezer cookies! |
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| 13:17 | cait | that's a thing? |
| 13:18 | oleonard | Yup. Cookie dough you can freeze, slice, and bake. |
| 13:18 | Good for making just enough cookies for an emergency cookie fix. | |
| 13:19 | cait | :) |
| 13:19 | sounds good! | |
| 13:19 | I got a little 'elk' yesterday to make ginger bread cookies | |
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| 13:25 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 13:25 | khall | mornin tcohen! |
| 13:27 | cait | morning tcohen |
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| 14:04 | oleonard | Joubu: Bug 13242 should be tested on top of the patch for Bug 13226? |
| 14:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13242 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Slow checkin for patrons restricted indefinitely |
| 14:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13226 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Significant slowdown of checkins with fix for notices ignoring the dateformat preference | |
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| 14:08 | Joubu | oleonard: as you want |
| 14:08 | * Oak | waves |
| 14:09 | Joubu | rangi: around? |
| 14:10 | oleonard | Too early for rangi Joubu |
| 14:12 | Joubu | tcohen: Did you see my comment on bug 11634 before you pushed the last patch? |
| 14:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow renewal of item with unfilled holds if other available items can fill those holds |
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| 14:12 | tcohen | Joubu: no i didn't |
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| 14:20 | oleonard | Joubu are you ready for a new checkin problem? :| |
| 14:20 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 14:21 | oleonard | Checking in an item which triggers a suspension in days takes around 50 seconds in my test system |
| 14:21 | cait | Joubu: 12 hours now to nz - for you ... 11 or 13? |
| 14:22 | Joubu | oleonard: shoot |
| 14:23 | oleonard | Specifically: Checkin in an item which triggers a suspension in days from the account of an indefinitely restricted patron |
| 14:23 | mveron | Are acronyms widely used in Koha? - The acronym tag splits up sentences making it very difficult to have a correct translation, e.g. for opac-auth.tt |
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| 14:27 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ # patron privacy wrangler |
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| 14:33 | Joubu | oleonard: Does the problem still exists with bug 13242? |
| 14:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13242 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Slow checkin for patrons restricted indefinitely |
| 14:34 | Joubu | oleonard: The problem should be fixed globally with this patch |
| 14:34 | the problem == trying to parse "9999-12-31" to generate a DateTime object | |
| 14:36 | oleonard | I will double-check Joubu |
| 14:37 | Yes, the problem with suspension in days still happens with the patch for 13242 applied. | |
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| 14:41 | Nicole C. Engard: add id for barcodeattribute | |
| 14:41 | Joubu | oleonard: could you open a new bug report please? |
| 14:42 | oleonard | Yes. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. |
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| 15:28 | Joubu | oleonard: I don't manage to reproduce it... |
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| 16:24 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 16:24 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: add id for barcodeattribute | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove OpacShowLibrariesPulldownMobile | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove OpacMainUserBlockMobile | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove OPACMobileUserCSS | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove prog and ccsr from opacthemes | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove other theme images | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: update path to opac.css | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: update path to xslt with bootstrap | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove prog from cms appendix | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove reference to ccsr in stylesheet pref | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove mobile opac section that talked about ccsr | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove ccsr mobile opac section | |
| 16:24 | * Nicole C. Engard: add RentalFeesCheckoutConfirmation | |
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| 17:19 | cait | new kitchen! |
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| 17:23 | * oleonard | laments that no one does any QA anymore now that cait spends all her time in the kitchen |
| 17:24 | cait | hehe |
| 17:24 | i did my share this year.. not it's time for cookies | |
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| 17:26 | oleonard | You certainly did cait! |
| 17:26 | cait++ | |
| 17:26 | cait | heh |
| 17:26 | i will do more | |
| 17:27 | at the moment i am scared to break something in the new kitchen | |
| 17:30 | oleonard | I had a friend who turned on her newly-installed oven only to find out shortly after that there had still been packing material inside. |
| 17:31 | cait | waah! |
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| 17:38 | tcohen | hi |
| 17:42 | * cait | waves |
| 17:43 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 17:43 | o/ | |
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| 18:31 | barton | I have a partner who says that they are no longer able to look up patrons by userid on checkout, after upgrade to 3.16. I wasn't aware that this was ever possible, but they're adamant that something's broken. |
| 18:32 | was this formerly possible at the standard search bar? | |
| 18:33 | cait | hm |
| 18:33 | on checkout? | |
| 18:33 | not sure really | |
| 18:33 | barton | right. |
| 18:34 | tcohen | barton: don't think so |
| 18:35 | maybe it was a coincidence | |
| 18:35 | barton | nod. |
| 18:35 | it doesn't smell right to me either. | |
| 18:35 | oleonard | It doesn't work for me when I check out 3.14.x |
| 18:35 | barton | oleonard++ |
| 18:40 | oleonard | I'll see your username login and raise you one, "Patrons after the upgrade have the 'gonenoaddress' flag set when it wasn't set before" |
| 18:40 | I can't imagine how that could be true, but that's what people are telling me | |
| 18:41 | cait | huh |
| 18:41 | that sounds weird | |
| 18:41 | barton | which table is that in? |
| 18:41 | cait | borrowers |
| 18:41 | wahanui | rumour has it borrowers is InnoDB in oleonard's test system, FWIW |
| 18:41 | cait | gonenoaddress or similar |
| 18:43 | barton | would chainging a borrower's card number cause problems? |
| 18:45 | cait | oleonard: around? |
| 18:45 | wnickc | their card wouldn't work anymore :) |
| 18:46 | oleonard | cait: Yes |
| 18:46 | cait | HEA - Render community koha statistic usages |
| 18:46 | could we rephrase that a bit for the release notes? | |
| 18:47 | barton | wnickc -- true, but they seem hellbent on checking patrons out by userid, and they don't want to change those ... *something* has to give. |
| 18:47 | wnickc | copy userid to sort1 or sort2, i think those are searchable now? |
| 18:47 | barton | cait: how about "Report" rather than "Render"? |
| 18:47 | oleonard | cait: Are you updating bug titles for that purpose? |
| 18:48 | cait | trying yes :) |
| 18:49 | barton | wnickc -- search on the patron screen works fine by userid. are you saying that you can check out items using sort1 or sort2? |
| 18:51 | wnickc | oh, it might only be on patron search, sorry barton |
| 18:52 | barton | no problem wnickc -- I'm trying to nail this down as much as I can, just to avoid further communication issues with the partner. |
| 18:53 | oleonard | Hea - Report Koha community usage statistics? Hea - Report Koha library usage statistics? |
| 18:54 | * barton | prefers the latter. |
| 18:59 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 19:01 | cait | oleonard: feel free to fix any mistakes you see! |
| 19:13 | HEA - Report usage statistics to Koha community? | |
| 19:14 | oleonard | Is anyone aware of a problem for UNIMARC users with the OPAC's "show plain" MARC view? |
| 19:14 | * oleonard | is asking at the wrong time of day probably |
| 19:14 | cait | hm |
| 19:14 | there was a patch recently | |
| 19:14 | but not sure if it was for staff/opac and if it got pushed | |
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| 19:18 | oleonard | Maybe you're thinking of Bug 13225 cait |
| 19:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13225 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 result Card View doesn't work for UNIMARC |
| 19:18 | cait | oh <wa |
| 19:18 | oh yes | |
| 19:21 | oleonard: would the title above work bit better? | |
| 19:21 | HEA - Report usage statistics to Koha community? | |
| 19:22 | oleonard | That sounds good to me |
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| 19:57 | oleonard | Bye folks |
| 20:10 | barton | wnickc: talljoy just pointed me in a direction that makes your idea of using altid usable in circ: make the borrower attribute 'searchable'. |
| 20:13 | wnickc | ahh, I knew there was an answer barton |
| 20:13 | thanks for sharing | |
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| 20:58 | wizzyrea | oleonard++ for reiterating the need for civility and compassion on the mailing list. |
| 20:58 | cait | y |
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| 21:18 | * Nicole C. Engard: add batch delete tool | |
| 21:18 | * Nicole C. Engard: add new permission for batch record delete | |
| 21:18 | * Nicole C. Engard: remove yuipath | |
| 21:18 | * Nicole C. Engard: add Advanced Search Options prefs | |
| 21:18 | * Nicole C. Engard: add new max suspension and auto renew to circ rules | |
| 21:18 | * Nicole C. Engard: add new autorenew cron | |
| 21:18 | * Nicole C. Engard: add note about renew cron to circ rules | |
| 21:24 | tcohen | hi |
| 21:24 | wahanui | hello, tcohen |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | hi tcohen |
| 21:26 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 21:28 | tcohen | is there a source for CC licences logos? |
| 21:28 | cait | hm? |
| 21:29 | tcohen | there are some audio tracks |
| 21:29 | on some video | |
| 21:30 | that need to be attributed | |
| 21:30 | cait | ah |
| 21:30 | i think there is a website that helps you pick the license | |
| 21:30 | and also offers a logo | |
| 21:30 | tcohen | yes, but only a small resolution |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Marking/Users |
| 21:32 | does this help at all? | |
| 21:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #581 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:32 | Project Koha_Docs build #581: SUCCESS in 1 min 29 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/581/ | |
| 21:32 | * Nicole C. Engard: add AcqEnableFiles | |
| 21:32 | * Nicole C. Engard: add invoice file attaching | |
| 21:32 | cait | z39.50? |
| 21:32 | wahanui | somebody said z39.50 was the ANSI standard of the beast. |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | snerk |
| 21:32 | cait | z39.50? |
| 21:32 | wahanui | z39.50 is probably the ANSI standard of the beast. |
| 21:32 | cait | z39.50? |
| 21:32 | wahanui | i guess z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast. |
| 21:32 | cait | ok... i will look in the logs |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 21:32 | cait | logs? |
| 21:32 | wahanui | i think logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | z39.50? |
| 21:32 | wahanui | z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast. |
| 21:33 | tcohen | thanks wizzyrea |
| 21:33 | you earned a reward: http://snag.gy/LZiyq.jpg | |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | https://wiki.creativecommons.o[…]in_specific_media specifically that |
| 21:33 | cait | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]en_Z39.50_Sources |
| 21:33 | i have no idea why i never can find that | |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 21:35 | nengard | lots of manual progress today |
| 21:35 | i might actually get it all done before the release!! | |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | wahoo! |
| 21:36 | cait | :) |
| 21:37 | mveron | nengard ++ |
| 21:37 | cait | hmthe vokal one is not working for me |
| 21:38 | bag | nengard++ |
| 21:38 | cait | ... and neither does sekls? |
| 21:39 | bag | hmmm cait vokal works for me |
| 21:39 | cait | weird |
| 21:39 | bag | what port are you trying? |
| 21:39 | cait | 9999 |
| 21:39 | bag | hmm cait try 9998 real quick for me |
| 21:40 | does it just time out? or do you get a different message? | |
| 21:40 | cait | ah |
| 21:40 | looking better :) | |
| 21:40 | tcohen | nengard++ |
| 21:41 | byeeeee | |
| 21:41 | bag | yeah i think that is supposed to be port 9998 (usually that's the standard one that we use) |
| 21:41 | cait | ok, just figured out i was looking at sekls |
| 21:41 | but t works now | |
| 21:41 | bag | oh heh |
| 21:42 | cait | 9998 |
| 21:42 | :) | |
| 21:44 | wnickc | VOKAL's is 9999, at least it works for me |
| 21:46 | and BU doesn't appear to be on Koha to my eye | |
| 21:46 | cait | i think i had a space in front of the url :( |
| 21:46 | from copying it out from the wiki | |
| 21:46 | bag++ wnickc++ | |
| 21:47 | testing bug 6681 | |
| 21:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681 major, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Signed Off , When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links and items also get imported |
| 21:47 | cait | and it works nicely :) |
| 21:47 | eythian | hi |
| 21:48 | nengard | hi |
| 21:50 | cait | @later tell tcohen can you take a look at bug 13223 if we can waive the need for unit tests there? |
| 21:50 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:07 | cait | @later tell tcohen I tried writing some for 13223 - can you check? |
| 22:07 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 22:24 | mveron | Good night / daytime #koha |
| 22:25 | * dcook | keeps meaning to learn UNIMARC |
| 22:25 | dcook | Oh... I was reading scrollback |
| 22:25 | oops | |
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| 23:25 | wizzyrea | thing that needs doing: the website FAQ needs updating |
| 23:25 | for 1. new FAQ's | |
| 23:25 | 2. eliminating outdated FAQ's | |
| 23:25 | 3. getting it consistent with best practice. | |
| 23:29 | http://koha-community.org/faqs/cookies-koha-use/ < also we should link to this from the opac footer, as a start towards a cookie policy statement. | |
| 23:32 | rangi | hmm true |
| 23:32 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/faqs[…]ndex-start-again/ this one probably highlights a bug, that there isn't a packages way to do this (or is there?) |
| 23:34 | hm I feel we should have a faq that is for packages, and a faq for not-packages | |
| 23:34 | (i'm noting these just for the log, not that I expect anyone else to do them) | |
| 23:34 | (help is nice though) | |
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| 23:47 | dcook | Hmm...I'm wondering if I'm reading the wrong DBIC docs.. |
| 23:48 | Hmm maybe not... | |
| 23:48 | * dcook | would love to know why this update isn't working |
| 23:48 | dcook | $result->last_modified(\'NOW()')->update(); |
| 23:48 | # OR | |
| 23:48 | $result->update({ last_modified => \'NOW()' }); | |
| 23:48 | The first won't work, but the second will... | |
| 23:52 | Hmm, I guess this is what perl -d is for again.. | |
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