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| 00:27 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 00:50 | mtompset | Thanks for the bug fix appreciation, wizzyrea. :) |
| 00:51 | * mtompset | is listening to #bgfest www.festivalofhope.ca (Michael W. Smith is performing). |
| 01:24 | eythian | @seen tcohen |
| 01:24 | huginn | eythian: tcohen was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 48 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <tcohen> :-D |
| 01:25 | eythian | @later tell tcohen oh hey, that thing I was blaming you for seems to actually be your fault :) "4c2467d4 (Tomás Cohen Arazi 2014-08-06 14:22:23 -0300 43) my @keys = sort keys $columns;" |
| 01:25 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:26 | eythian | @later tell tcohen that'll never work, keys requires a hash, not a hashref. |
| 01:26 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:45 | mtompset | eythian: An "I told you so"?! |
| 01:45 | Such love. ;) | |
| 01:46 | Have a great day, #koha eythian wizzyrea rangi ibeardslee papa dcook etc. :) | |
| 01:47 | wizzyrea | later :) |
| 01:49 | eythian | man, does no one run test cases properly these days? I'm just playing whack-a-mole with test case failures trying to get a new master package to build. |
| 01:50 | cjh | :( |
| 01:55 | rangi | building on squeeze eh? |
| 01:56 | cos yes tests are failing on jenkins too | |
| 01:56 | * wizzyrea | imagines eythian playing whack a mole |
| 01:57 | rangi | but there is somethng broken with the squeeze test machine, so that there are too many false positives |
| 01:58 | eythian | squeeze, yeah |
| 01:58 | but one is a plain syntax error, and the other is a test that requires the database. | |
| 01:58 | rangi | i suspect that you and are are some of the few left that do tests on clean systems |
| 01:58 | eythian | It's possible. |
| 01:58 | rangi | most people run them on their dev box |
| 01:58 | with databases | |
| 01:58 | and running trusty or something | |
| 01:59 | eythian | "@keys = sort keys $columns;" should always fail though, unless there's some new syntax thing I don't know about. |
| 01:59 | (given $colums is a hashref, not a hash) | |
| 01:59 | rangi | hmmm |
| 01:59 | yeah | |
| 01:59 | what test is that? | |
| 02:00 | eythian | t/Templates.t |
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| 02:01 | rangi | keys on reference is experimental at t/Templates.t line 43. |
| 02:01 | it works | |
| 02:01 | wahanui | But it also eats babies. |
| 02:01 | rangi | exactly |
| 02:01 | eythian | it does eat babies |
| 02:02 | rangi | we shouldnt use it |
| 02:02 | its a perl 5.18 experimental thing | |
| 02:02 | eythian | ah |
| 02:02 | rangi | or maybe 5.20 |
| 02:02 | but not in whatever is in squeeze | |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | wow wahanui really called that one didn't he. |
| 02:02 | rangi | and its just lazy |
| 02:02 | cos a @ would fix that | |
| 02:03 | probably just a typo | |
| 02:03 | that accidentally works | |
| 02:06 | eythian | http://perldoc.perl.org/warnin[…]ml#Fatal-Warnings <-- we should do this on test cases. |
| 02:06 | rangi | we should |
| 02:06 | wouldnt be hard to make jenkins do that | |
| 02:07 | eythian | yeah |
| 02:08 | rangi | http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/[…]est/NoWarnings.pm or that |
| 02:08 | In general, your tests shouldn't produce warnings. This modules causes any warnings to be captured and stored. It automatically adds an extra test that will run when your script ends to check that there were no warnings. If there were any warings, the test will give a "not ok" and diagnostics of where, when and what the warning was, including a stack trace of what was going on when the it occurred. | |
| 02:09 | eythian | oh yes, that's good. |
| 02:09 | in fact, pretty much ideal | |
| 02:09 | rangi | *nod* |
| 02:09 | cjh | that is neat. |
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| 04:31 | eythian | wahanui: web developer is <reply>Like that Tim Berners-Lee Guy|<reply>http://uber.geek.nz/webdeveloper.jpg |
| 04:31 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 04:31 | eythian | wahanui: code monkey is <reply>http://imgur.com/qItTmcp |
| 04:31 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 04:31 | wizzyrea | lol. |
| 04:33 | dcook | Hmm, turns out that trying a 32bit LiveUSB on a 64bit machine doesn't work too well. |
| 04:33 | Who knew... | |
| 04:33 | eythian | it should |
| 04:33 | dcook | You'd think so |
| 04:33 | eythian | oh hey, forgotten kit-kat brownie, excellent! |
| 04:33 | dcook | Kept crashing though |
| 04:33 | Yay, 64bit success! | |
| 04:33 | kit-kat brownie? | |
| 04:33 | * dcook | drools |
| 04:34 | eythian | exactly as the name implies |
| 04:34 | * dcook | just bought a new laptop, so naturally the first thing he plans to do is put Ubuntu on it |
| 04:34 | dcook | So brownie with kit-kat chunks? |
| 04:34 | eythian | bars, but yeah |
| 04:40 | finally, I have a sodding build of master working | |
| 04:44 | dcook | I finally managed to get the wifi hard block off. Yay! |
| 04:44 | wizzyrea | I finally... no, today has been alright. |
| 04:45 | dcook | Unlike Unity |
| 04:45 | Man...this UI is a bit irksome | |
| 04:54 | eythian | I find it pretty good to use, mostly that it just stays out of my way and does what it's supposed to. |
| 05:03 | dcook | Perhaps it takes time to grow on a person |
| 05:03 | I imagine it is probably the most well supported UI | |
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| 06:01 | ashimema | morning |
| 06:05 | I couldn't get on with Unity dcook.. gnome shell all th way for me ;) | |
| 06:06 | dcook | ashimema: I'm a fan of Gnome as well :) |
| 06:06 | hey cait | |
| 06:06 | (obviously hey ashimema :P) | |
| 06:06 | ashimema | :) |
| 06:07 | I just find it does what I want, and gets out of the way | |
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| 06:07 | dcook | yo magnuse |
| 06:07 | ashimema | Though it's not as 100% bombproof stable as I would like. |
| 06:08 | dcook | Oh yeah? |
| 06:08 | I don't think I've had any issues so far. At least not on Debian. | |
| 06:08 | ashimema | I tihnk it's probably my graphics setup to be honest. |
| 06:08 | dcook | Mmm, could be. |
| 06:08 | ashimema | I have random crashes/freezes now and then.. |
| 06:08 | magnuse | hiya dcook and ashimema and cait and #koha |
| 06:08 | ashimema | and my main monitor has window drag issues. |
| 06:09 | * cait | waves |
| 06:09 | ashimema | if I on;y use one moniotr all the issues go away.. |
| 06:10 | dcook | Mmm, I've only tried with one monitor so far I Think |
| 06:10 | No random crashes or freezes though I don't think | |
| 06:11 | ashimema | I find it's the mix of google chrome and gone shalle with dual displays that hurts me.. |
| 06:11 | which happen to be my main fongic.. | |
| 06:11 | but it's not enough of an annoyance to move away. | |
| 06:11 | I get a crash say once every 3 or 4 days.. | |
| 06:11 | cait | hmpf? |
| 06:12 | dcook | Mmm |
| 06:12 | I used to have bad times with Google Chrome | |
| 06:12 | I've found it better latley | |
| 06:12 | ashimema: You use Ubuntu? What version? | |
| 06:13 | Hmm, now whether or not to test my Windows recovery... | |
| 06:13 | ashimema | Ubuntu Gnome Edition, 14.04 I think. |
| 06:13 | dcook | Mmm |
| 06:13 | ashimema | probably 14.04.01 actually |
| 06:14 | dcook | Weird. I think I might give Unity a bit of a try. |
| 06:14 | As I imagine it'll be the best supported. | |
| 06:14 | ashimema | Yeah.. Unity didn't give me any crashes.. |
| 06:14 | I just hated it on multi-monitor | |
| 06:14 | dcook | Just annoying as? ;) |
| 06:14 | Mmm | |
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| 06:21 | * magnuse | tried unity, gave up on it |
| 06:24 | cait | hm |
| 06:24 | * cait | uses it |
| 06:25 | magnuse | i can't even remember what i didn't like, just that i found it annoying |
| 06:25 | felt like it might be good on a tablet, though | |
| 06:27 | ashimema | me too magnuse |
| 06:27 | dcook | I might give it a whirl for a little bit. |
| 06:29 | I use Debian on my desktop and used Lubuntu on my netbook, but this laptop is quite a bit more powerful, so could probably handle full Ubuntu | |
| 06:29 | cait | i thnk it was just too much trouble for me to not use it |
| 06:29 | and then... i got used to it | |
| 06:30 | dcook | cait: Yeah, I think that will probably what will happen with me. Hehe. |
| 06:33 | cait | hm we have a dev meeting tomorrow? |
| 06:34 | ashimema | Yes.. |
| 06:34 | good point.. we aught to have a wiki page | |
| 06:34 | don'#t thin that's been done yet. | |
| 06:34 | cait | heh |
| 06:35 | maybe i was sneakily trying to get someone make one... | |
| 06:35 | :) | |
| 06:36 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:36 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.4°C (8:35 AM CEST on September 15, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:38 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:38 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 15, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:38 | magnuse | yeah, chilly here today |
| 06:38 | @wunder marseille | |
| 06:38 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 18.2°C (8:36 AM CEST on September 15, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:39 | magnuse | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 06:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (6:30 PM NZST on September 15, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:39 | cait | @wunder Cordoba, Argentina |
| 06:39 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.7°C (3:35 AM ART on September 15, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:39 | magnuse | that's not too hot :-) |
| 06:40 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage,uk |
| 06:40 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 13.0°C (7:30 AM BST on September 15, 2014). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:41 | ashimema | oh.. my weather station appears to be back up and running ;) |
| 06:41 | magnuse | just 3 weeks until kohacon14, eh? |
| 06:41 | cait | hm i think i will keep my weather |
| 06:41 | ashimema | they're not joking when they say fog.. I can't see the house accross the street |
| 06:41 | cait | lol |
| 06:41 | good you don't have to leave home to get to work :) | |
| 06:41 | ashimema | anyone know if there are any plans for any online participation in kohacon14? |
| 06:42 | magnuse | what's the time difference? |
| 06:42 | ashimema | i.e. anything being videoed etc |
| 06:42 | cait | hm around 5? *checks* |
| 06:42 | magnuse | yup, looks like 5 hours |
| 06:42 | cait | 5 hours from here it seems |
| 06:42 | +- 1 for ashimema | |
| 06:42 | magnuse | gmt -3 |
| 06:42 | dcook | I keep forgetting about Kohacon14... hope everyone (who is going) enjoys it |
| 06:42 | ashimema | yup |
| 06:43 | cait | i hope people will be around for the hackfest online |
| 06:43 | ashimema | I'm mostly interesting in partaking on the hackfest days.. |
| 06:43 | cait | i hope we can work on some bigger things this week |
| 06:43 | magnuse | soo... 10 am there will be 3 pm here |
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| 06:43 | ashimema | am giong to attempt to pursuade the boss to let Alex and I work purely on koha stuff during those days ;() |
| 06:43 | dcook | Which days is it again? |
| 06:43 | cait | hm not ideal, but some overlap |
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| 06:43 | magnuse | ashimema++ |
| 06:44 | * cait | crosses fingers :) |
| 06:44 | cait | o, have to run, bbiab |
| 06:44 | magnuse | yeah, some overlap |
| 06:44 | cait left #koha | |
| 06:44 | dcook | October 6 - 13.. |
| 06:44 | ashimema | cait.. might work perfect.. |
| 06:44 | magnuse | us stay behind wuropeans can solve all the easy bugs before the hackfesters start their day ;-) |
| 06:44 | dcook | I think I'll be on Crete |
| 06:44 | ashimema | we could get signoff/qa's done whilst your out ;) |
| 06:45 | magnuse | good plan |
| 06:45 | ashimema | So yeah.. I wondered if there were any plans for some google hangouts or similar for any of the hackfest chats |
| 06:45 | that would be awesome ;) | |
| 06:46 | magnuse | yup |
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| 07:09 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:10 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:16 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:16 | cait | h gaetan_B |
| 07:16 | wahanui | gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons |
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| 07:20 | cait | hi fridolin |
| 07:20 | fridolin | hie cait |
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| 07:20 | cait | hi Joubu :) |
| 07:21 | Joubu | hello cait, #koha |
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| 07:24 | cait | hi sophie_m |
| 07:24 | sophie_m | hello cait |
| 07:24 | good morning #koha | |
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| 07:27 | cait | ashimema: i will make the wiki page :) |
| 07:27 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 07:28 | cait | how does one set a motd? |
| 07:28 | ashimema | :) |
| 07:28 | tanks cait | |
| 07:29 | cait | hm the next general meeting is missing too |
| 07:29 | did we set a date for that? | |
| 07:30 | indradg | Good morning #koha |
| 07:30 | ashimema | not sure cait. |
| 07:30 | wahanui | not sure cait is leistungsfähig |
| 07:31 | cait | me neither wahanui |
| 07:31 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]16_September_2014 | |
| 07:35 | magnuse | "Next meeting is going to take place on September 17th - time to be agreeed on on the mailing list" http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-14-15.15.html |
| 07:37 | ACTION: gmcharlt will ask about the meeting time on the list (cait, 15:48:22) | |
| 07:38 | cait | hm |
| 07:38 | that's in 2 days | |
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| 07:53 | magnuse | so it is |
| 07:53 | hallais akafred | |
| 07:54 | cait | ? |
| 07:54 | oh hello? | |
| 07:54 | wahanui | hello is probably it possible to install koha on debian wheezy? or do i have to install debian squeeze |
| 07:54 | cait | forget hello |
| 07:54 | wahanui | cait: I forgot hello |
| 07:54 | akafred | morning magnuse |
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| 08:21 | cait | packages |
| 08:21 | wahanui | rumour has it packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 08:26 | magnuse | cait: "hallais" is very informal way of saying hello in norwegian |
| 08:32 | indradg | Joubu: ping |
| 08:33 | cait | :) |
| 08:33 | indradg | Joubu: more I keep reading the DBIC thread... more confused I keep getting :P |
| 08:34 | ashimema | join the club indradg |
| 08:34 | indradg | ashimema: heh |
| 08:36 | ashimema | I think allot of us are rather confused regarding the dbic debate |
| 08:42 | magnuse | my take on it: we need a database abstraction. the question is if dbic is enough of an abstraction in itself (which means we can use dbic directly in .pl scripts), or if we need another abstraction on top of dbic (which means we should only use dbic in .pm files) |
| 08:56 | Joubu | indradg: the discussion is quite easy, and magnuse resumed it quite well. |
| 09:04 | cait | i guess finding the answer is not so easy :) |
| 09:04 | Joubu: did you get a chance to look at kyle's code yet? i tried... but not sure i get it | |
| 09:06 | Joubu | cait: yes, I already had a look. I still disagree. See my last answer on the ml thread |
| 09:08 | cait | ah ok, mailing list goes to a separate email, will check later! |
| 09:08 | Joubu | We need more participants, to get more ideas :) |
| 09:09 | cait | trying to keept rack of the discussion, but i think i am int he club with indradg |
| 09:34 | magnuse | i'm seeing some crazy values for borrowers.debarred, like 2133-06-25. anyone else seen that? the library does have rules using debarrments for 0, 10, 30 and days, but 100+ years is a looong time... |
| 09:34 | cait | hm maybe a manually entered one? |
| 09:35 | what debar code does it have? | |
| 09:35 | hm and the fines by date... i think it might be by day late | |
| 09:35 | ok, that probably made no sense :) | |
| 09:35 | i think if you return the book 3 days late, it might use 3*what is configured | |
| 09:36 | Joubu: do you know if that is right? | |
| 09:39 | Joubu | cait: yes, if I remember correctly, it works like that |
| 09:40 | cait | thx, we are not using the feature currently :) |
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| 09:40 | cait | magnuse: would that explain the years? 30 * x days late? |
| 09:43 | magnuse | cait: yeah, probably |
| 09:44 | that is probably not how this library wanted it to work... ;-) | |
| 09:44 | cait | i think the documentation could maybe be amended |
| 09:44 | to make it more clear | |
| 09:48 | magnuse | "If your library 'fines' patrons by suspending their account you can enter the number of days their fine should be suspended in the 'Suspension in days' field" from http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#circfinerules |
| 09:53 | cait | hm would be good that this will apply for each day the item is late |
| 09:53 | magnuse: maybe run a quick test if we are right about that first? | |
| 10:00 | magnuse | with a "fine" of 30 days, i returned a book that was due on september 1st and got debarred until 09/11/2015 |
| 10:00 | 14 days late x 30 days ~= 14 months | |
| 10:01 | yup, that looks about right | |
| 10:10 | my $suspension_days = $deltadays * $finedays; http://git.koha-community.org/[…]852;hb=HEAD#l2125 | |
| 10:18 | cait++ | |
| 10:19 | cait | lunch time :) |
| 10:20 | magnuse | here too! |
| 11:07 | dexap | khall: re. bug 11703, there IS javascript interpolation, see commit 9e9088049c343cc86 |
| 11:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
| 11:13 | khall | paxed: either this hadn't been pushed to master yet, or the qa'er didn't know about it at the time. Good to know for the future! |
| 11:13 | paxed | title += " " + BY.replace( "_AUTHOR_", " " + oObj.author ); |
| 11:13 | title += " " + BY + " " + oObj.author; | |
| 11:14 | in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/js/checkouts.js | |
| 11:15 | as it is, the AJAX-table is impossible to translate in a way that would satisfy users. | |
| 11:15 | cait | i think it overlapped |
| 11:15 | the patch was around, but probably not pushed yet | |
| 11:16 | khall: i insited you make it translatable in some way, i think the option for the placeholders was not there yet | |
| 11:17 | khall | cait: that's what I figured |
| 11:23 | cait | khall: i signed off ne of the patches from dobrica |
| 11:23 | could you maybe qa it? | |
| 11:23 | the one for overdues showing in red | |
| 11:23 | khall | bug number? |
| 11:23 | paxed | can i change the default sorting in the ajax table with jQuery in IntranetUserJS? |
| 11:23 | cait | hm i sent a later to khall_away :) |
| 11:24 | khall | looks like I've lost it : \ |
| 11:24 | cait | hm let me find it then :) |
| 11:25 | i#d like to give a bit of prio to teh bugs linked to bug 11703 | |
| 11:25 | khall | thanks! |
| 11:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
| 11:25 | cait | it hink we need them in 3.16 asap |
| 11:25 | bug 12729 | |
| 11:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12729 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Overdue items won't show as overdue in red in circulation |
| 11:25 | cait | it was already switched to signed off, that's why I tackled it and then I saw it had the wrong status |
| 11:26 | i'd also love to see a fix for bug 12892 | |
| 11:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Patch doesn't apply , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen |
| 11:27 | cait | that's a really bad one for the circ desk |
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| 11:29 | * cait | waves |
| 11:31 | khall | cait: I'll take a look at both those |
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| 11:48 | * magnuse | hopes it will be easy for gmcharlt to cherrypick a patch for bug 12883 |
| 11:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12883 major, P5 - low, ---, gmc, Pushed to Master , Holds tab on checkout screen never stops processing |
| 11:53 | cait | magnuse: it's a one line change, i think picking it should work |
| 11:54 | khall++ thx! | |
| 11:54 | khall | np! |
| 11:55 | oleonard | Hi everyone |
| 11:55 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
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| 11:59 | magnuse | after upgrading from 3.14.x to 3.16.3 i have at least one instance where editing a record/adding items results in searches returning that record multiple times. so the same record is shown more than once in the results. reindexing fixes it. anyone else seen that? |
| 11:59 | * magnuse | kind of fears it's a normarc thing |
| 12:00 | cait | it might :( not seen that and not keen to see it |
| 12:00 | we have a library on 3.16.2 | |
| 12:00 | but only for a few days now and they are new to Koha | |
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| 12:09 | paxed | khall: so, how can i change the default sorting in the ajax table with jQuery in IntranetUserJS? i've tried everything easily googleable. |
| 12:10 | khall | paxed: you'd need to be sure the datatable has loaded before executed any javascript to manipulate it. I can't think of any easy way to do that. |
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| 12:11 | cait | khall: hm do we have a patch yet for fixing the sorting? |
| 12:11 | oleonard | paxed: I'm curious, how do you want it to sort? |
| 12:12 | khall | cait: owen submitted one |
| 12:12 | paxed | at least the moremember.pl table seems to sort with due_date desc, which should be asc. |
| 12:13 | oleonard | I think it failed QA though. I haven't had a chance to look at it again. |
| 12:23 | magnuse | bug 12899? |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12899 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Row grouping in checkouts table is alphabetical and layout depends on words chosen in translation |
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| 12:24 | oleonard | Yeah I've got a correction |
| 12:25 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:25 | hi oleonard | |
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| 12:26 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 12:26 | eythian: Signed off. | |
| 12:26 | wahanui | signed off is the queue the QA team should watch |
| 12:27 | * magnuse | is sometimes amazed that noone is complaining loudly about numeric subfields being displayed before alphabetic fields (e.g. $1 before $0) in the cataloguing form |
| 12:27 | mtompset | -- what you were blaming tcohen for. :) |
| 12:27 | magnuse | gah |
| 12:27 | $1 before $a | |
| 12:27 | oleonard | Bug 12899 is ready for another look |
| 12:29 | cait | bug 12899 |
| 12:29 | wahanui | bug 12899 is ready for another look |
| 12:29 | tcohen | @later tell eythian good catch, it was working on my box (perl 5.18) so I overlooked it |
| 12:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12899 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Row grouping in checkouts table is alphabetical and layout depends on words chosen in translation |
| 12:29 | tcohen: The operation succeeded. | |
| 12:29 | cait | ah ther eit is |
| 12:31 | khall++ | |
| 12:32 | khall | cait: I've submitted a new patch for bug 12892 |
| 12:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen |
| 12:32 | khall | should be an easy sign-off and qa |
| 12:32 | cait | tcohen might ask for unit tests |
| 12:33 | khall | oleonard: might you have a moment to test bug 12892? |
| 12:33 | tcohen | he will |
| 12:33 | khall | cait: I'll work on a unit test right now ; ) |
| 12:34 | cait | khall: maybe you can walk me through the solution sometime? |
| 12:34 | what it does in the modules? | |
| 12:34 | must not be right now, just interested to understand a bit more | |
| 12:34 | khall | let me know when you want to and I can do that |
| 12:35 | cait | thx :) |
| 12:35 | could you tell how it broke? it looks like we need to add back quite a bit of code | |
| 12:36 | khall | cait: the holds loop was removed when we ajaxified the holds table. That loop was partly used for the holds waiting list as well |
| 12:36 | cait | ah |
| 12:36 | oki | |
| 12:37 | i wondered it seemed unrelated at first | |
| 12:40 | fridolin | see u |
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| 12:48 | cait | khall: any chance you can find the other duplicate for the javascript error? I am trying to untangle the ajax related bugs a bit :) |
| 12:48 | khall | do you have a bug number? |
| 12:48 | tcohen | cait++ |
| 12:49 | cait | khall: you said there is a third one, wondering where it's hiding :) |
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| 12:49 | cait | is it bug 12811? |
| 12:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12811 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Passed QA , Patron 'Details' and 'Check out' pages not working properly for staff users which don't have renewal override permissions |
| 12:50 | cait | jacek left a comment there, but i am highly confused by now |
| 12:50 | we also got bug 12920 | |
| 12:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12920 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Remove AllowRenewalLimitOverride from pl scripts, use Koha.Preference instead |
| 12:50 | cait | hm no |
| 12:50 | bug 12878 | |
| 12:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12878 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Not having the permission circulate_override_renewals triggers error that prevents checkouts table from loading |
| 12:50 | cait | and bug 12915 |
| 12:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12915 critical, P1 - high, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable [3.16.x], AllowRenewalLimitOverride crashes datatable |
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| 12:50 | cait | help?! :) |
| 12:51 | khall | lol, those three bugs fix the same thing |
| 12:52 | mtompset | http://youtu.be/F7952B8oLmE -- Beatles HELP! :) |
| 12:52 | cait | we only got one in pqa, but with a comment from jacek that it is incomplete... could you take a look at that one? |
| 12:53 | khall | the comment was that my switch to Koha.Preference was incomplete, I filed a new bug with that bug being a blocker for it |
| 12:54 | cait | aah so the follow up is for that |
| 12:54 | ok | |
| 12:54 | khall | so bug 12811 is good and ready to but pushed, bug 12920 depends on it and needs sign-off. |
| 12:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12811 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Passed QA , Patron 'Details' and 'Check out' pages not working properly for staff users which don't have renewal override permissions |
| 12:55 | khall | yep, it's all good |
| 12:55 | cait | ok |
| 12:55 | khall | 12920 isn't critical either. It's just cleanup to follow current guidelines |
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| 12:56 | cait | so right now we need a signoff for the waiting bug (12892 prio 1) and this follow-up 12920 |
| 12:56 | khall | yep |
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| 12:58 | cait | khall: it starts to make sense again :) |
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| 12:58 | khall | good ; ) |
| 12:58 | cait | khall: i think we erally need to fix those - the ajax related bugs |
| 12:58 | because it's in 3.16.3 | |
| 12:59 | khall | indeed |
| 12:59 | cait | so would be good if we got that all ready for tcohen and gmcharlt |
| 12:59 | khall | maybe tcohen could spare a moment to sign them off? |
| 12:59 | tcohen | i will |
| 13:00 | cait | not sure if the RM signing them off is valid :P |
| 13:00 | nah, it is | |
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| 13:14 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
| 13:15 | oleonard | Bug 12892's unit test patch doesn't have a test plan |
| 13:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen |
| 13:16 | cait | oleonard: i think running the test file with prove it should pass |
| 13:17 | khall: i wonder if the follow up needs to be taken into account for the utf-8 patches? | |
| 13:17 | khall: maybe we should create a link so Joubu notices? | |
| 13:17 | khall | cait, I just filed a followup to use EncodeUTF8 |
| 13:18 | cait: not sure where that should be filed, can you take care of that? | |
| 13:18 | cait | i will put a link |
| 13:18 | khall | thanks! |
| 13:18 | cait | could you qa 12918? |
| 13:19 | then i will probably stop bugging you for today :) | |
| 13:19 | khall | will do! |
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| 13:23 | khall | done! easy qa on that one ; ) |
| 13:24 | cait | thx .) |
| 13:24 | tcohen will be happy | |
| 13:24 | tcohen | =D |
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| 13:49 | mtompset | Just to note, but comment about failing on 5.14 is not a comment on the patch, but the version of perl tcohen should be using. :) |
| 13:50 | ^but^my^ | |
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| 14:09 | jeff | ``Please answer this question on list. We just recently spoke to the salesmen from Koha and are considering using it.'' |
| 14:09 | * jeff | is amused |
| 14:13 | mtompset | User education is difficult. We probably shouldn't be amused by the lack of understanding. |
| 14:14 | jeff | I probably shouldn't be amused. |
| 14:14 | Since the person has an address ending in .GOV, I'm going to assume I know the identity of the vendor in question. | |
| 14:18 | cait | :( maybe a link to the support provider list would be in order then? |
| 14:20 | jeff: which mailing list was that? | |
| 14:21 | jeff | OCLC-CAT |
| 14:22 | cait | oh |
| 14:23 | ah, no public archive | |
| 14:23 | * oleonard | is not surprised |
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| 14:24 | oleonard | jeff: Will you be responding? |
| 14:27 | jeff: The person posting the question may know the identity of the vendor, but it may not be a vendor who actually supports Koha. | |
| 14:28 | jeff | i don't actively participate in that list, so i'm not likely to respond. |
| 14:29 | oleonard | Ah well, if someone wants to sign on with a vendor who says they support Koha but actually sell a closed fork I guess that's their business, even if they don't know any better. |
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| 15:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:22 | cait | paola++ |
| 15:22 | good testing | |
| 15:47 | IE-- | |
| 15:50 | druthb | cait++ #it's monday. |
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| 16:04 | druthb | @karma |
| 16:04 | huginn | druthb: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (138), "cait" (134), and "oleonard" (87). Lowest karma: "-" (-9), "^" (-7), and "ie" (-7). You (druthb) are ranked 28 out of 270. |
| 16:04 | druthb | @most increased |
| 16:04 | huginn | druthb: "gmcharlt": 138, "cait": 134, "oleonard": 87, "eythian": 85, "tcohen": 81, "Joubu": 72, "ashimema": 69, "rangi": 63, "khall": 56, "bgkriegel": 45, "magnuse": 37, "dcook": 27, "fridolin": 26, "jcamins": 25, "wizzyrea": 23, "marcelr": 23, "pianohacker": 21, "bag": 20, "mveron": 16, "dpavlin": 15, "Viktor": 13, "mtompset": 12, "paul_p": 11, "yohann": 10, and "biblibre": 10 |
| 16:05 | druthb | @most decreased |
| 16:05 | huginn | druthb: "-": 9, "^": 7, "ie": 7, "MARC": 5, "<-": 5, "indexdata": 3, "yui": 3, "css": 3, "windchill": 3, "regressions": 2, "<---": 2, "-rw-r---": 2, "overdues": 2, "failed": 2, "people_who_use_windows_xp_past_april_8": 2, "windows": 2, "Microfilm": 2, "http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/m[…]7zHvTSevTSeSSSSSS": 1, "+<!": 1, "scheduling_things_with_more_than_two_people": (1 more message) |
| 16:05 | * cait | gives up on ie for today |
| 16:05 | druthb | @more |
| 16:05 | huginn | druthb: 1, "rebasing_patches_for_2_years": 1, "--": 1, "-/----": 1, "--//": 1, and "https://www.google.com/maps/di[…]a+Jesu%C3%ADtica+": 1 |
| 16:06 | bag | heya cait and druthb |
| 16:06 | druthb | hiyas, bag |
| 16:08 | cait | bye all |
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| 16:12 | oleonard | YUI is officially dead. We did well ditching it when we did. |
| 16:13 | bag | yup |
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| 16:16 | oleonard | Anyone else seeing mailing list traffic moving slowly? I just now got some Bugzilla update emails from hours ago. |
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| 16:44 | mtompset | Frequently, oleonard. |
| 17:15 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 17:32 | magnuse | all my zebra logs (/var/log/koha/*/zebra*.log) are empty - any way to increase the verbosity? |
| 17:42 | oleonard | I must be procrastinating if I'm asking myself questions like "How would we go about changing the staff client's CSS grid system? |
| 17:43 | mtompset | You are contemplating bootstrap for the staff client too?! :) |
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| 17:44 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. :) |
| 17:44 | oleonard | YUI won't be COMPLETELY DEAD until we get rid of the YUI grid. (and update basket groups) |
| 17:45 | * mtompset | cheers oleonard on in his "procrastination". :) |
| 17:47 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 18:11 | * magnuse | cheers oleonard on too |
| 18:14 | oleonard | Settle down guys, I'm only pondering vaguely how we would have to go about it |
| 18:15 | I foresee a long long period in which the old and new grid systems are both in place and pages are updated one by one | |
| 18:15 | ...but having a staff client that was more usable on mobile would be pretty cool. | |
| 18:18 | So... we have an installer template called "step1.tt" which encompasses two steps. Tricky. | |
| 18:30 | tcohen | oleonard: can we do it in a 6-month cycle? |
| 18:31 | oleonard | No idea. |
| 18:33 | In "Step 2" (actually step 3) of the web installer it says "Please click 'Next' to continue if this information is correct" | |
| 18:33 | What do you do if it *isn't* correct? | |
| 18:34 | We don't offer any suggestions. | |
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| 18:41 | cait | probably... go back to the command line? no idea :) |
| 18:42 | oleonard++ :) | |
| 18:42 | just thinking about it is work | |
| 18:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12918: fix failing test case <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b084b83b65295d246> / Bug 12870 - require a higher version of Test::Simple <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d090ccb08cd4b9132> |
| 18:55 | oleonard | Is "Your Perl version seems to be obsolete" the best way to say that? "Out of date" perhaps? Or is obsolete technically correct? |
| 18:56 | cait | hm where does it appear? |
| 18:56 | oleonard | It's part of the web installer |
| 18:56 | cait | maybe... is too old... we recommend.... ? |
| 18:57 | jcamins | oleonard: do we still only require Perl 5.10? |
| 18:57 | oleonard | "is too old" sounds better to me, and sounds technically more accurate |
| 18:57 | jcamins: I don't know, I'm just the front-end guy ;) | |
| 18:57 | cait | it's in the release notes i think |
| 18:57 | jcamins | oleonard: because the oldest supported version of Perl is Perl 5.14. |
| 18:58 | Unless 5.18.0 has been released, in which case the oldest supported version is 5.16. | |
| 18:58 | While "too old" does sound a bit better, I feel like we can call Perl 5.8 "obsolete." | |
| 18:59 | oleonard | 3.16 release notes say "Perl 5.10 is required" |
| 18:59 | tcohen | jcamins: ubuntu 14.04 ships with 5.18 |
| 18:59 | oleonard | Gotta run, but I'll check the logs to see if anyone has suggestions for improvement |
| 19:00 | cait | :) |
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| 19:17 | cait | khall: i don't agree about the dogs ;) |
| 19:17 | khall | heh, don't tell nengard that! |
| 19:18 | cait | hm good point |
| 19:18 | but can we also include sloths? | |
| 19:33 | khall: working with tcohen on the agenda for tomorrow - did you find something about dbic conventions for the coding guidelines? | |
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| 19:34 | khall | is it on the wiki? can you give me a link? |
| 19:34 | cait | agenda is here |
| 19:34 | I was looking at the items from last time | |
| 19:35 | we haven't added anything to the coding guidelines yet | |
| 19:35 | khall | I think the discussion is still ongoing |
| 19:35 | but should be discussed during the meeting | |
| 19:35 | cait | yep, i will add it again |
| 19:36 | but my impression was that we were looking for something written with best practice or so | |
| 19:37 | khall | that could be very different depending on the outcome of our dbic discussion. I don't think we can nail down anything just yet |
| 19:40 | gotta run. later all! | |
| 19:42 | cait | ok |
| 19:42 | bye khall_away | |
| 19:54 | rangi | morning |
| 19:55 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:55 | tcohen | hi rangio |
| 19:56 | s/o// | |
| 19:56 | \o/ | |
| 19:56 | rangi | heh |
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| 20:59 | francharb | hi all, I have a record with the correct language code in 008, record.abs gives me melm 008 ln:w:range(data,35,3) so I guess the index is correctly built |
| 21:00 | but I can't find the record if I limit the search by language | |
| 21:00 | on the other hand, if the language code is in 041$a, it works | |
| 21:01 | record.abs gives me melm 041$a ln | |
| 21:01 | I don't get why the index doesn't contain the 008 value. | |
| 21:01 | Any idea? | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | someone at some point thought it was too tricky to encode it in the 008? |
| 21:02 | or someone at some point had records that had language in the 041, and thought "well everyone has it this way I'll change it" | |
| 21:02 | (of course, not everyone has it that way) | |
| 21:04 | francharb | wizzyrea, I think this library import record and doesn't change this value |
| 21:04 | cait | hm marc21? how are you searching for the language code? |
| 21:04 | francharb | cait, yes, marc21 |
| 21:05 | I used the search page | |
| 21:05 | cait | did you chck the codes match? |
| 21:05 | francharb | yes |
| 21:05 | cait | i think we had some trouble there in the past |
| 21:05 | francharb | in 2012 |
| 21:05 | cait | can you share a search link? |
| 21:05 | francharb | I found the budg |
| 21:05 | ;) | |
| 21:06 | sure | |
| 21:06 | http://koha.vaniercollege.qc.c[…]it=&do=Rechercher | |
| 21:06 | ln,rtrn=fre | |
| 21:06 | cait | hm |
| 21:06 | i will try and catalog a record in my installation sec | |
| 21:06 | francharb | I removed the rtrn, it doesnt work either... |
| 21:07 | cait, I guess here is the bug you are refering to : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7586 | |
| 21:07 | huginn | 04Bug 7586: normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, CLOSED FIXED, Search: Language restriction does NOT show expected results (no items shown) |
| 21:07 | francharb | ;) |
| 21:07 | cait | ah, there are multiple :) |
| 21:07 | one for unimarc too | |
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| 21:08 | cait | francharb: does ln=fre work in a keyword search? |
| 21:08 | francharb | yes |
| 21:08 | cait | hm interesting |
| 21:08 | wahanui | well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 21:09 | francharb | cait, the records I'm looking for have 008 35/3 = fre but no 041$a |
| 21:10 | cait | francharb: it doesn't work for me iether |
| 21:10 | francharb | but with ln=fre, the records I found have 041$a = fre |
| 21:10 | ok :( | |
| 21:11 | but :), I'm not crazy | |
| 21:11 | ;) | |
| 21:11 | cait | you don't seem to be |
| 21:11 | francharb | thanks! ;) |
| 21:11 | cait | ah are you using dom or grs-1 indexing? |
| 21:11 | francharb | good question |
| 21:11 | I dont know | |
| 21:11 | let me see if I can see it | |
| 21:14 | cait, koha-conf says "dom" | |
| 21:14 | cait | hm you can ignore record.abs then |
| 21:16 | francharb | but but, zebra-biblios.cfg doesnt seem complete... |
| 21:16 | I dont have the reference to dom-config.xml | |
| 21:17 | I never actually pay attention to this, so I'm not sure how it works | |
| 21:17 | cait | hm not totally sure either |
| 21:17 | dom is a ibt of a blind spot for me still | |
| 21:17 | francharb | cait, record.abs is just for grs? |
| 21:17 | cait | yes |
| 21:17 | i am cetain about that | |
| 21:17 | francharb | ok. do you know what is the dom equivalent? |
| 21:18 | cait | i think the xml xsl in the same directory... but i haven't taken a closer look at dom config so far :( |
| 21:19 | maybe you can find some info here | |
| 21:19 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/MRenvoize/zebra | |
| 21:19 | francharb | cait, but it's the default setting now, right? |
| 21:19 | cait | we are moving to it yes |
| 21:19 | francharb | ok |
| 21:20 | thanks for the wiki page, I'm going to read it and do a couple of checks! | |
| 21:20 | but it will be tomorrow! | |
| 21:21 | I spent the day with a headache and computer work doesnt help! | |
| 21:21 | ahah | |
| 21:21 | cait | oh |
| 21:21 | same here today | |
| 21:21 | hope it goes away | |
| 21:21 | francharb | it will but it's time to rest! |
| 21:21 | have a good evening cait | |
| 21:21 | cait | youtoo |
| 21:22 | francharb | thanks! |
| 22:07 | eythian | hi |
| 22:07 | wahanui | bonjour, eythian |
| 22:09 | eythian | @later tell tcohen it should have appeared as a warning. We should start using this: http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/[…]est/NoWarnings.pm in test cases to catch that kind of thing. |
| 22:09 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:10 | * cait | waves at eythian |
| 22:10 | cait | night all |
| 22:10 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 22:10 | eythian | hi cait |
| 22:10 | bye cait | |
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