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| 01:01 | tcohen | oh oh |
| 01:01 | rangi | ? |
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| 01:05 | * tcohen | didn't know we don't have a way to import/export authority frameworks |
| 01:05 | lied to a librarian | |
| 01:05 | rangi | ahh |
| 01:06 | there are some scripts that can go through bugzilla and make a changelog type thing | |
| 01:06 | it might be a start of a feature list | |
| 01:07 | if we pulled out all enhancements and new features | |
| 01:07 | that are pushed, or closed etc | |
| 01:07 | tcohen | :-D |
| 01:10 | rangi | something like this |
| 01:10 | http://www.bugzilla.org/status/changes.html | |
| 01:15 | tcohen | awesome! |
| 01:15 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, tcohen |
| 01:19 | wizzyrea | ohh awesome indeed |
| 01:31 | dcook | tcohen: I opened a bug report for import/export of authority frameworks I believe |
| 01:31 | Never got around to it though... | |
| 01:32 | Need to find a way to update those too for existing installs.. | |
| 01:32 | As I think authority records had changes with RDA as well | |
| 01:32 | tcohen | dcook: if you find the bug, point me to it |
| 01:32 | it seems we have all that is needed to implement it | |
| 01:33 | dcook | Probably :) |
| 01:34 | tcohen | bye! |
| 01:34 | dcook | Hmm, maybe I didn't open a bug |
| 01:34 | I think I might've just sent a listserv email then... | |
| 01:34 | Or just talked about it on IRC | |
| 01:34 | Ages ago in any case | |
| 01:40 | BobB | hi all |
| 01:40 | has anyone done an Overdrive integration? | |
| 01:41 | eythian | we have a couple. |
| 01:42 | BobB | cool |
| 01:42 | so if you set the parameters in the sys prefs, does that give Overdrive results with the search results? | |
| 01:43 | what I am wondering is whether the user has to authenticate to the OPAC to see the OD results? | |
| 01:43 | eythian | I'm not actually sure. I haven't done it myself, but I don't _think_ so. |
| 01:43 | rangi will know more. | |
| 01:43 | BobB | so anyone can access the results, but then perhaps not link to the content? |
| 01:43 | rangi | actually wizzyrea did south taranaki, shes the one to ask |
| 01:44 | ive never actually done one | |
| 01:44 | eythian | oh right. |
| 01:44 | ask wizzyrea :) | |
| 01:44 | BobB | ok, thx :) |
| 01:50 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 01:55 | wizzyrea | that thing is a thing I know about >.> |
| 01:57 | eythian | @later tell cait http://www.oktoberfest.co.nz/ |
| 01:57 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:57 | wizzyrea | it's a springtime party! |
| 02:25 | dcook | Sweeeet. I think I have an idea to improve the ccl.properties |
| 02:25 | range r=o | |
| 02:25 | Boom | |
| 02:25 | * dcook | drops mic |
| 02:26 | dcook | It doesn't really work that way though :p |
| 02:26 | acqdate,range,st-date-normalized:2013-01-01 - 2015-10-01 | |
| 02:26 | :D | |
| 02:26 | "acqdate,range:2013 - 2015" would work though | |
| 02:27 | Ohh you could even do "acqdate,range,st-date-normalized:2013-01 - 2015-10" | |
| 02:28 | Could have a whole range of ccl aliases for Zebra's special attributes... | |
| 02:29 | s=pwThe structure is set to either word or phrase depending on the number of tokens in a term (phrase-word). | |
| 02:29 | That's kind of magical | |
| 02:30 | I don't think we'd want to use that by default though | |
| 02:30 | I think most folk expect a "wrdl" search | |
| 02:31 | Oooh. I didn't know you could change ccl.properties without re-indexing. | |
| 02:31 | Of course, that makes total sense... | |
| 02:39 | Mind you, maybe there's no point with that... | |
| 02:39 | Maybe it makes more sense to add "r=o" to acqdate | |
| 02:39 | That would probably make it easier for transitioning to elasticsearch.. | |
| 02:40 | Just adding "r=o" to dates | |
| 02:40 | Well...not all dates | |
| 02:40 | r=r allows "1950-1960" | |
| 02:40 | while r=o would require "1950 - 1960" | |
| 02:40 | r=r won't work with iso dates whereas r=o will... | |
| 02:41 | But we can't change existing r=r to r=o without changing documentation | |
| 02:41 | * wizzyrea | blinks |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | are you monologuing again? |
| 02:41 | :) | |
| 02:42 | dcook | Maybe a little bit... :p |
| 02:47 | Hmm, the dates don't work quite as I'd expect.. | |
| 02:47 | Close but Zebra returning more results than I'd think.. | |
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| 02:49 | dcook | Maybe funny processing.. |
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| 03:43 | dcook | I love how "st-date-normalized" should actually be "st-date-unnormalized". |
| 03:43 | eythian | heh |
| 03:43 | dcook | It's like someone thought, "Hey...how can I best screw with a bunch of people..." |
| 03:44 | Then again.. | |
| 03:44 | wth.. | |
| 03:44 | Ok, I think Indexdata made this mistake | |
| 03:45 | Or maybe I'm just reading it strangely.. | |
| 03:45 | Ooh | |
| 03:45 | eythian: I wanted to ask you about ES | |
| 03:46 | How does it handle ranges? | |
| 03:46 | Specifically for dates | |
| 03:46 | Actually, that's not the real question | |
| 03:46 | eythian | it depends |
| 03:46 | dcook | What's the syntax for specifying a date range? |
| 03:46 | eythian | the way I'm using it, I think it's just date1-date2 |
| 03:46 | dcook | Interesting |
| 03:46 | wahanui | well, Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 03:46 | wizzyrea | edit links from the detail page: super great, thanks. |
| 03:46 | eythian | oh, no |
| 03:47 | dcook | wizzyrea:? |
| 03:47 | eythian | field:[date1 TO date2 |
| 03:47 | ] | |
| 03:47 | http://lucene.apache.org/core/[…]#Range%20Searches | |
| 03:47 | wizzyrea | there's a little edit link in the items table on the biblio detail view now |
| 03:47 | dcook | This syntax http://www.elasticsearch.org/g[…]-range-query.html matches something I was going to try myself as well |
| 03:47 | wizzyrea | takes you directly to editing the item, and it's fantastic. |
| 03:48 | dcook | Even when independent branches is turned on? |
| 03:48 | eythian | yeah, I'm not using that method of querying ES (yet) |
| 03:48 | dcook | eythian: So how would that look if a user were writing it out? |
| 03:48 | Oh.. | |
| 03:48 | I guess they'd have to use the Lucence syntax | |
| 03:48 | eythian | I've never tried, I just know that it works with the advanced search range things. |
| 03:48 | yeah | |
| 03:49 | dcook | I've been thinking a bit about context based help pages.. |
| 03:49 | So that someone could click on "Syntax help" or something less scary, and get the right help for building a query | |
| 03:49 | eythian | ah yeah |
| 03:50 | dcook | As at the moment there's no way for people to know what search engine is in use |
| 03:50 | As far as I can tell | |
| 03:50 | eythian | yeah, you pretty much can't |
| 03:50 | dcook | Yeah, I was supporting someone today and I didn't have access to their backend at all (not even their staff client) |
| 03:51 | Rather interesting trying to figure things out when you can't see anything | |
| 03:51 | I'm not even sure if it WAS an elephant | |
| 03:52 | I'm thinking of changing "acqdate" so that it can be used with date ranges | |
| 03:53 | Ahh | |
| 03:53 | Date (un-normalized)100unsupported | |
| 03:54 | Makes sense | |
| 03:54 | I wonder why we bother with it then though | |
| 03:55 | eythian | sorting? |
| 03:55 | wahanui | somebody said sorting was a Monday job |
| 03:55 | dcook | Oh, I just mean that Zebra says it doesn't support it. But we still have it in ccl.properties. |
| 03:56 | eythian | ah |
| 03:56 | dcook | Lots of them actually |
| 03:57 | Oh my... | |
| 03:57 | According to the Bib-1 profile, "Date normalized" is supposed to be "Generalized time" as according to ASN.1 http://www.obj-sys.com/asn1tutorial/node14.html | |
| 03:58 | ISO 8824 | |
| 03:58 | Rather than ISO 8601's YYYY-MM-DD | |
| 03:59 | I assume when Zebra says it uses ISO dates that it uses 8601... | |
| 04:00 | eythian | oh man ASN.1 |
| 04:00 | dcook | Mmm, that's what MARC 005 uses, yeah? |
| 04:01 | eythian | I think so |
| 04:01 | dcook | Hmm, maybe not... |
| 04:01 | But based on it | |
| 04:01 | Apparently 005 uses ISO 8601 :S | |
| 04:02 | I guess the standard does say hyphens are optional | |
| 04:02 | at least for YYYY-MM-DD | |
| 04:03 | Yeah...I don't think MARC adheres to 8601 even though it says it does for the 005 | |
| 04:03 | * dcook | gives MARC a thumbs down |
| 04:03 | eythian | MARC doesn't even adhere to the MARC spec. |
| 04:03 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:04 | 005 is almost ISO 8824 but not quite | |
| 04:04 | :S | |
| 04:04 | Yeah, MARC takes liberties with MARC | |
| 04:07 | eythian: Any idea what a "digital number" i s? | |
| 04:07 | is* | |
| 04:07 | eythian | a 1 or a 0? |
| 04:08 | dcook | Hmm, I don't think that's what they're meaning :/ |
| 04:08 | numeric (@attr 4=109)ignoredNumeric ('n')Special index for digital numbers | |
| 04:08 | eythian | I've got no idea |
| 04:08 | dcook | I assume they mean that it's an integer? |
| 04:08 | eythian | maybe? |
| 04:08 | wahanui | maybe is, like, a momentaneous error |
| 04:08 | dcook | lol |
| 04:08 | well timed, wahanui | |
| 04:08 | wahanui | dcook: sorry... |
| 04:08 | dcook | I think that's what it must mean |
| 04:09 | Maybe not.. | |
| 04:09 | year (@attr 4=4)ignoredYear ('y')Non-tokenized and non-normalized 4 digit numbers | |
| 04:09 | Makes sense | |
| 04:09 | I suppose we do say "4 digit numbers" | |
| 04:09 | eythian | yeah, I guess |
| 04:09 | dcook | I can't imagine a number that's not a digital number.. |
| 04:10 | Maybe as opposed to a date | |
| 04:10 | Which may or may not have extra punctuation? | |
| 04:10 | eythian | "twelve" |
| 04:11 | there's no digits there | |
| 04:11 | dcook | Mmm |
| 04:11 | When you say it like that, it just seems obvious :p | |
| 04:11 | Good one | |
| 04:12 | I am tempted to make a "range" qualifier... | |
| 04:12 | You could specify "local-number,range:1-100" | |
| 04:12 | Get all records with bib numbers between 1 and 100 | |
| 04:12 | But... I don't want to add something that might make it more annoying for people to use ElasticSearch at some point | |
| 04:12 | So maybe makes more sense to make local-number capable of being a range on its own | |
| 04:13 | * dcook | nods to himself |
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| 04:14 | dcook | In that case, st-numeric probably shouldn't have a "r=o" in it |
| 04:15 | Rather unnecessary | |
| 04:18 | Hmm, could actually improve a few of the item indexes | |
| 04:18 | Not sure anyone uses them though | |
| 04:33 | * wizzyrea | always enjoys dcook's monologues |
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| 04:33 | wizzyrea | truly. |
| 04:33 | dcook | I always hope that they're entertaining at least :) |
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| 04:34 | dcook | Just imagine if I were a teacher O_O |
| 04:34 | Poor students... | |
| 04:40 | Interesting... "Date-of-acquisition" is the only index that uses a "date" register | |
| 04:40 | We use a "number" register for "date-entered-on-file" | |
| 04:40 | That seems great.. | |
| 04:41 | Oh, and a sort index | |
| 04:41 | sort register rather | |
| 04:41 | I wonder if it doesn't work with date.. | |
| 04:41 | wizzyrea: I also love when I find a bug and then I go on these big quests to right wrongs | |
| 04:44 | Man "ls" is a sweet tool.. | |
| 04:44 | eythian | sudo apt-get install sl |
| 04:44 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 04:45 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:45 | * dcook | wishes he had a debian-based OS.. |
| 04:45 | dcook | I wonder if they have a rpm for opensuse |
| 04:46 | Nah | |
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| 04:56 | dcook | Love that moment when you discover the cause for something that you've been wondering about... |
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| 05:17 | dcook | ISO 8601:2000 allowed truncation (by agreement), where leading components of a date or time are omitted. Notably, this allowed two-digit years to be used and the ambiguous formats YY-MM-DD and YYMMDD. This provision was removed in ISO 8601:2004. |
| 05:17 | Standards... :/ | |
| 05:19 | Whoa... Zebra deja vu... | |
| 05:23 | mtj | peeps, can anyone recomend an best chioce for SIP2 - telnet or raw-socket? |
| 05:24 | koha prefers raw to telnet for sip2... from memory | |
| 05:25 | any prefs, anyone? | |
| 05:25 | * dcook | has no clue about SIP2 |
| 05:26 | mtj | i might have missed wizzyrea - she would know :0) |
| 05:27 | * mtj | will try to catch wiz tomorrow |
| 05:28 | mtj | i sorta remember telnet option, to be more glitchy for sip stuff |
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| 05:34 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:34 | * cait | waves |
| 05:35 | dcook | hey cait, magnuse |
| 05:51 | magnuse | hiya dcook |
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| 06:20 | * Oak | waves |
| 06:21 | magnuse | Oak |
| 06:21 | Oak | magnuse |
| 06:21 | magnuse | :-) |
| 06:21 | Oak | :] |
| 06:21 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 06:22 | Oak | |o_ |
| 06:22 | nah. does not look right. | |
| 06:23 | dcook | _o| |
| 06:23 | Hmm, nopes. | |
| 06:24 | A little like dancing I suppose! | |
| 06:25 | ashimema_zzzz | morning #koha |
| 06:28 | Oak | yup. or that aviation hand signals... |
| 06:30 | more like dancing. like the head is tilted towards the horizontal arm. saturday night fever style, almost. | |
| 06:31 | okay enough use of imagination. back to work. | |
| 06:31 | magnuse | good morning ashimema |
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| 06:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:41 | magnuse | bonojur reiveune |
| 06:41 | * cait | has to run, bbiab |
| 06:41 | reiveune | hi magnuse dcook cait |
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| 06:49 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:24 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:38 | magnuse | bonojur cait gaetan_B alex_a |
| 07:42 | wow, my gitified dev install is acting weird, with different versions in all the different places that has a version number | |
| 07:43 | ashimema | well done magnuse.. |
| 07:43 | alex_a | salut magnuse |
| 07:44 | ashimema | I'm still very much up and down as to whether I think gitified is a good approach to development or not now.. |
| 07:44 | * cait | waves |
| 07:44 | cait | ashimema: i think it might be good for running workshops |
| 07:44 | magnuse | yeah, it's got its up and downs |
| 07:44 | ashimema | I'm running into more and more cases where I want to test somthing that isn't easily doable using a gitified install (zebra index changes for example). |
| 07:44 | It's certainly quick to get you up and running.. | |
| 07:45 | my main dev environment is gitified though, and I'm starting to regret that.. | |
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| 07:46 | ashimema | I do think however, with some modifications, the script would serve very well for getting sandbox instances up and running super quick.. |
| 07:46 | at the moment, they suffer pretty much the same drawbacks.. | |
| 07:46 | but in a sandbox environment they're not so nasty ;) | |
| 07:46 | * ashimema | is waffling again.. somone kick him |
| 07:47 | is going to go back to playing with mojolicious, angularjs and mongodb | |
| 07:47 | cait | oooh |
| 07:48 | * ashimema | should add bootstrap in there somewhere.. and we have a very pretty app very quickly. |
| 07:50 | cait | :) |
| 08:04 | * magnuse | becomes curious as to what ashimema's app does |
| 08:10 | Oak | i'll ask. what does your app do ashimema? |
| 08:10 | magnuse | thanks Oak :-) |
| 08:10 | Oak | :) |
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| 08:17 | rana | hello |
| 08:17 | wahanui | salut, rana |
| 08:18 | rana | i am facing koha web installation problem |
| 08:18 | following error i have found | |
| 08:18 | Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 802. | |
| 08:18 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 68. | |
| 08:19 | anyone have any idea? | |
| 08:20 | Oak | rana: which linux distribution and version are you running? |
| 08:20 | rana | ubuntu 12.04 |
| 08:20 | magnuse | rana: and how are you installing? packages? |
| 08:20 | and which instructions are you following? | |
| 08:20 | rana | packages |
| 08:20 | wahanui | it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 08:20 | rana | yes |
| 08:20 | it got the koha web installation screen | |
| 08:21 | succesfully login | |
| 08:21 | and follw the instructions | |
| 08:21 | cait | did you install mysql-server? |
| 08:21 | rana | yes |
| 08:21 | cait | how did you create the instance? |
| 08:22 | how did your koha-create command look like? | |
| 08:22 | rana | with the command koha-create --create-db INSTANCE NAME HERE |
| 08:22 | cait | hm |
| 08:22 | magnuse: ? | |
| 08:22 | rana | means |
| 08:23 | cait | i am not sure what's wrong :( |
| 08:23 | magnuse: do you have an idea? | |
| 08:24 | indradg | rana: did you manage to complete the install? or the error hit you before that? |
| 08:25 | rana | no error i have found during installation |
| 08:25 | indradg | so when did you face the error? |
| 08:25 | rana | when i open the koha web installation page |
| 08:25 | indradg | "redirecting you in 5 seconds or click here" part? |
| 08:25 | rana | successfully login |
| 08:25 | indradg | ok |
| 08:25 | then? | |
| 08:26 | rana | then when koha connect mysql then the error came |
| 08:26 | Oak | this runs ok?: service mysql restart |
| 08:26 | rana | ok let me c heck |
| 08:29 | its cant be start | |
| 08:29 | Oak | 5 cookies his database server was down |
| 08:30 | rana | what to do |
| 08:30 | Oak | oho. |
| 08:30 | what does it say? | |
| 08:30 | why can't it start i mean. | |
| 08:30 | rana | cant connect local mysql server through socket |
| 08:31 | var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock | |
| 08:31 | indradg | rana: did you install mysql-server ? |
| 08:31 | rana | yes |
| 08:32 | magnuse | what if you do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"? |
| 08:32 | no, that might be wrong | |
| 08:32 | no, it's right | |
| 08:32 | rana | job fail to start |
| 08:33 | magnuse | any error meassge? |
| 08:33 | rana | its stying JOb fail to start |
| 08:34 | should i remove mysql-server and again reinstall it? | |
| 08:36 | magnuse | does it just say "failed to start", or does it indicate why? |
| 08:36 | there is a log file you can look at | |
| 08:38 | try | |
| 08:38 | sudo tail /var/log/mysql.err | |
| 08:39 | sudo tail /var/log/mysql/error.log | |
| 08:39 | on my machine they are empty, but you might have more luck | |
| 08:39 | rana | ty |
| 08:40 | Oak | oh well. we tried. |
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| 08:46 | ashimema | sorry, was in a meeting.. |
| 08:46 | it's a re-write of a ptfs-europe product.. rebus:list.. | |
| 08:46 | it basically just gathers lists of materials for libraries | |
| 08:47 | right.. must dash | |
| 08:47 | indradg | couple of years back I had to concoct a custom pre-seeded debian DVD, with all deps in place and then a bunch of curl scripts to talk to the web-installer and forcefeed the default system values. |
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| 08:55 | cait | hm we cheat |
| 08:55 | the indexes for the facets, su-to, su-geo etc. | |
| 08:55 | all seem to resovle into Subject... | |
| 08:55 | *sigh* | |
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| 09:28 | magnuse | cait: it's not just that everything in those fields are *also* in the Subject index? |
| 09:31 | cait | there seems to be no specific index |
| 09:31 | if yoiu look at ccl properties, it seems those indexnames all are mapped to Subject | |
| 09:32 | and then the su- don't appear in record.abs at all | |
| 09:42 | magnuse | and it's supposed to be implemented for grs1? |
| 09:45 | Joubu | hello #koha |
| 09:46 | Oak | hello Joubu |
| 09:57 | cait | magnuse: i think dom is just the same |
| 09:57 | magnuse: talking about the old facet code | |
| 09:57 | we just don't have specific indexes or don't use them for the facets right now | |
| 09:58 | magnuse | ok, i was just clutching at straws :-) |
| 10:00 | cait | understandable ;) |
| 10:00 | * magnuse | needs lunch |
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| 10:45 | magnuse | hiya Viktor |
| 10:45 | Viktor | Hi magnuse :) |
| 10:45 | Oak | no sleep for the computers. |
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| 11:48 | * cait | had lunch |
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| 11:52 | oleonard | paxed: msgctxt? |
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| 11:56 | paxed | oleonard: google it |
| 11:56 | wahanui | http://i.imgur.com/1n6mH4N.jpg |
| 11:57 | oleonard | paxed: No. |
| 11:57 | paxed: If you're making a suggestion, explain it. | |
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| 12:10 | Viktor | Is it possible that the two fields "today's checkouts" and "previous checkouts" are displayed in reverse alphabetical order? |
| 12:11 | Because in swedish the two fields are switched (which is correct in reverse alphabetical order) and it's a pain since previous checkouts hides the ones you're doing right now. | |
| 12:12 | I've been trying to locate where in the code to look for what's going on but can't find the right place. | |
| 12:12 | oleonard | Viktor: On the circulation page? |
| 12:13 | Viktor | yep oleonard |
| 12:14 | I looked at the .tt, .pl and .js files but can't really find where the table for checouts is created and how the layout is decided. | |
| 12:15 | I know it's some ajax magic, but the stuff my browser showed me was raw data being transfered and not formated html. | |
| 12:17 | oleonard | Yeah the table is being put together outside of circulation.tt now |
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| 12:18 | Viktor | I looked at the includes to but didn't have any luck (which doesn't really say all that much) |
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| 12:25 | oleonard | Viktor: checkouts.js |
| 12:25 | That's where the table is being built | |
| 12:26 | Viktor | Aha - thanks! I'll look into it and see what's going on then. |
| 12:30 | oleonard | Viktor: I can reproduce your bug, for what it's worth. |
| 12:31 | Viktor | oleonard: Good to know it's not our install. |
| 12:31 | Should it be filed as a separate bug or just comment on the ajax thread? | |
| 12:32 | oleonard | Separate bug |
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| 12:34 | Viktor | It seems .rowGrouping is the culprit. |
| 12:34 | sGroupingColumnSortDirection: "desc" | |
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| 12:36 | oleonard | Does changing that change the behavior for you? |
| 12:38 | Viktor | Don't know yet. Tried a git pull on my dev install but it just hang up so I'm just fooling around in Safari with my regular laptop now :) |
| 12:39 | * oleonard | thought it didn't but wasn't editing the file under the correct translation, trying again |
| 12:39 | Viktor | But if it does just changing that would solve it for us in swedish but mess up our english install :/ |
| 12:39 | oleonard | Yes that is the culprit |
| 12:40 | ping khall | |
| 12:40 | Viktor | Yay oleonard++ |
| 12:43 | khall | you rang? |
| 12:43 | oleonard | The row grouping plugin places "previous checkouts" at the top by doing a sort on the string, but that string is different in different languages |
| 12:45 | Viktor | Filed a bug now http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12899 |
| 12:45 | huginn | 04Bug 12899: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Row grouping in checkouts table is alphabetical and layout depends on words chosen in translation |
| 12:49 | khall | oleonard: I think we will need to somehow have the sorting direction defined as part of the translations. Is there any example of that in Koha already? |
| 12:49 | https://jquery-datatables-row-[…]roupOrdering.html | |
| 12:49 | oleonard | I was just about to post that link too khall :) |
| 12:49 | khall | heh |
| 12:50 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Something like this? A dummy column with numeric sort data" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/198 |
| 12:51 | khall | ooh, that's an interesting idea! |
| 12:52 | tcohen | jo |
| 12:52 | hi | |
| 12:52 | wahanui | bidet, tcohen |
| 12:52 | cait | please no cryptic strings for translators :) |
| 12:52 | Viktor | Think I'll generally leave you to solve this :) But I had thought the grouping was done in js based on the "checked out on" dates. |
| 12:52 | cait | a hidden column or value woudl be good |
| 12:54 | oleonard | I'll submit a patch. khall I hope you can take a look at it |
| 12:55 | khall | will do! |
| 12:57 | Viktor | Thanks oleonard++ khall++ cait++ |
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| 13:13 | mveron | Hi #koha |
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| 13:57 | Joubu | @QA team: bug 12891 is critical and needs QA |
| 13:57 | huginn | Joubu: I suck |
| 13:57 | Joubu | huginn: yes I know |
| 13:57 | huginn | Joubu: downloading the Perl source |
| 14:00 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: we need just this, on *slimUtils.xsl" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/200 |
| 14:03 | cait | tcohen: doens't look too scary - but how to use that everywhere? :) |
| 14:05 | tcohen | <xsl:call-template name="buildURL"><xsl:with-param name="IntranetBiblioDefaultView">...</xsl:with-param></xsl:call-template> |
| 14:05 | where ... would be <xsl:value-of></.. | |
| 14:05 | the variable itself | |
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| 14:32 | mveron | oleonard ++ :-) |
| 14:32 | cait | Joubu: sorry for bug 10226 - shoudl have marked it better, hesitated to fail :( |
| 14:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10226 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , suspended holds still show not available |
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| 14:33 | Joubu | cait: no problem, now we are tests :) |
| 14:33 | have | |
| 14:33 | ... oops | |
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| 14:34 | cait | Joubu: thx :) Joubu++ |
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| 14:40 | druthb | gmcharlt++ # mentioning Koha's under-appreciated QAM in his blog |
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| 14:42 | * cait | hides |
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| 14:44 | * druthb | gets a bungee cord, ties gmcharlt to his chair with it. |
| 14:44 | gmcharlt | quassel does not seem to like me today |
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| 14:51 | * druthb | drags cait out of hiding. |
| 14:52 | * cait | hides behind her support call :) |
| 15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:05 | oleonard | Bug 11668 test plan says "Supply translations for the "Total" and "TOTAL" strings in the $LANG-messages.op file." |
| 15:05 | What is the "$LANG-messages.op" file? | |
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| 15:16 | oleonard | Oh I see it wasn't generated because bugs. |
| 15:40 | Joubu | bye #ko |
| 15:40 | hahaha | |
| 16:05 | tcohen | bye Joubu |
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| 16:20 | khall | oleonard: I just filed bug 12904 on a whim. Does this make sense? |
| 16:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Force browser to load new javascript files after upgrade |
| 16:21 | cait | khall: hm probably - we tell libraries to clean cache etc too |
| 16:21 | i once had a werid case with a bad cookie | |
| 16:22 | khall | cait: my problem is I can't reproduce the issue. My browsers just won't cache the files! |
| 16:22 | cait | the result was that they alsways had all funds showing up in a pull down... |
| 16:22 | hm but i would't change the files | |
| 16:22 | sorry, just read your bug | |
| 16:23 | khall | cait: yeah, I don't think this involves cookies |
| 16:23 | we could extend it to include css though | |
| 16:23 | cait | not sure about the solution |
| 16:24 | khall | I'm open to any solution, it would just be nice to avoid the whole "here's how to clear your browser cache" song and dance every time we upgrade |
| 16:24 | cait | :) |
| 16:24 | have to run - bbl :) | |
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| 16:40 | gerundio | hi everyone |
| 16:41 | where can I find an article on how to setup send mail on Koha? | |
| 16:46 | indradg | gerundio: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_packages#E-mail |
| 16:47 | however, if you are looking to setup a smtp (mail) server or a smarthost, there is any number of tutorials on the web that will do | |
| 16:49 | jcamins | postfix? |
| 16:49 | wahanui | i think postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix (but you probably can skip the SASL stuff) or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html |
| 16:50 | gerundio | indradg, thanks for the tips |
| 16:50 | is there a place in the staff interface where I can send an email for test purposes? | |
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| 16:52 | flustrated | Athena is the Devil. |
| 16:53 | I've imported my patron list, I've imported my marc records. But if I try to search for a book, nothing comes up. Am I doing something wrong or missing something? | |
| 16:53 | Or do I need to import circ data first? | |
| 16:53 | and how do I do that? | |
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| 16:54 | flustrated | hello |
| 16:55 | indradg | flustrated: nope! circ data is not necessary for search of items |
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| 16:55 | indradg | how did you install... .deb package or tarball? |
| 16:56 | flustrated | It's on an ubuntu server... through apt get |
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| 16:57 | flustrated | Is there some intermediary step after applying the marc records before the catalog can be searched? |
| 16:58 | I can run a report that lists all the books in my catalog | |
| 16:58 | but I can't find them to check them out. | |
| 16:58 | druthb | indexing? |
| 16:58 | wahanui | indexing is done by Zebra. |
| 16:59 | gmcharlt | flustrated: some possibilities - Zebra is not running; in that case, run koha-start-zebra |
| 17:00 | another possibility - Zebra is running (chek for a process named zebrasrv), but the records are not indexed | |
| 17:00 | in that case, use koha-rebuild-zebra -f | |
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| 17:02 | gmcharlt | yet another possibility: the OpacSuppression system preference is on, but due to a quirk, in that case there needs to be at least one record that's marked as suppress |
| 17:02 | in that case, either mark a record suppresed via the MARC editor, or turn off the OpacSuppression system preference | |
| 17:02 | flustrated | I feel like I'm 5 |
| 17:03 | gmcharlt | flustrated: sorry, I hope I'm not offending you |
| 17:04 | there are just a lot of moving parts to Koha's catalog search | |
| 17:05 | * cait | waves |
| 17:05 | cait | flustrated: how did you install koha and how did you add the records? :) |
| 17:07 | gmcharlt | cait: (to save a repeat) via packages |
| 17:07 | flustrated | then imported data after massaging it |
| 17:08 | jcamins | How did you import the data? |
| 17:12 | flustrated | through tools>import patrons and stage MARC and MARC mgmt |
| 17:13 | jcamins | Okay, good. |
| 17:20 | cait | oh sorry |
| 17:27 | flustrated | thanks you've given me some rabbits to chase! |
| 17:30 | druthb | gmcharlt++ |
| 17:30 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
| 17:32 | cait | gmcharlt++ :) |
| 17:34 | magnuse | gmcharlt++ |
| 17:45 | indradg | hi #koha |
| 17:50 | I was looking at bug 6892, tried out something adding 4 in ind1 of 856$u and the entering ftp://<some_url> , should Koha allow that? | |
| 17:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6892 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , If a URL has been entered without http://, it isn't correctly linked |
| 17:50 | indradg | jcamins, cait, gmcharlt ^^^ |
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| 18:50 | flustrated | ok, I'm back |
| 18:50 | I do not see Zebra as a running service | |
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| 19:30 | gmcharlt | flustrated: no zebrasrv? then sudo koha-start-zebra {librarycode} should start it |
| 19:32 | flustrated | When I try sudo koha-start-zebra (instance) it says it's already running. But koha says it can't see the zebra. Maybe it's standing next to a picket fence. |
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| 19:40 | rangi | what does ps axf | grep "zebrasrv" show you |
| 19:43 | flustrated | A long error |
| 19:44 | 29819 ? S 0:00 daemon --name=library-koha-zebra --errlog= etc. | |
| 19:45 | rangi | hmm thats not an error .. is there are a line that looks like |
| 19:45 | \_ zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites | |
| 19:45 | flustrated | a couple actually |
| 19:46 | rangi | right, so yep, the zebrasrv is running successfully then |
| 19:47 | flustrated | So, is koha just not looking in the right place? |
| 19:47 | rangi | where is it telling you that it is not running? |
| 19:47 | flustrated | if I go to the localhost:8080 and click on "about koha" |
| 19:48 | bag | I'm a little late to the show - maybe this has already been said - but what do you have in your system preference - that reads "SearchEngine" |
| 19:48 | rangi | and have you done a full rebuild of the indexes ? |
| 19:48 | bag | you should have Zebra selected there |
| 19:49 | flustrated | where do I find the system pref setting for "search engine" |
| 19:59 | ok, found it. yep, Zebra is set | |
| 19:59 | rebuild command looks like sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library right? | |
| 20:00 | rangi | yep |
| 20:01 | flustrated | dbd::mysql::st execute failed: table 'koha_library.auth_header' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 440. |
| 20:02 | and a couple more similar messages | |
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| 21:31 | cait | nght all |
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| 22:11 | eythian | hi |
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