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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | eythian | gmcharlt: I think that bug 12642 ought to go into 3.16 too |
| 00:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12642 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SMS.t requires a database |
| 00:26 | eythian | 3.16.03 packages uploading |
| 00:26 | *uploaded | |
| 00:53 | dcook | Ok, done all the things I know how to do now...now to remember how to do the things I've forgotten how to do :p |
| 00:53 | How hard can it be to remember something that's been forgotten? | |
| 00:53 | * dcook | says having no idea where his LiveUSB of Ubuntu has wandered off to... |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | you need to find the right stimulus |
| 00:53 | to remind you | |
| 00:54 | where were you the last time you had it? what were you doing? was it a special day? were there any strange smells? were you listening to specific music? | |
| 00:54 | dcook | It's a good idea |
| 00:54 | I used to use that music trick | |
| 00:54 | * dcook | would listen to music while studying, and found humming to himself really helped recall stuff |
| 00:54 | dcook | I think my wife might've moved the USB though :p |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | that's less helpful. |
| 00:55 | dcook | As for DSpace... I suppose that's why we have grep |
| 00:55 | Hmm, grep letting me down.. | |
| 00:56 | I really hope this doesn't require me to write Java and recompile... | |
| 00:57 | I don't mind the writing Java part. It's just the recompiling time. | |
| 00:57 | Bleargh. | |
| 00:57 | Oh ho, I think it's just a config change | |
| 00:58 | As much as we might complain about Koha at times, it really does have a fairly low bar to entry | |
| 00:58 | I mean...certain modules can be scary, but overall... if you follow the string you'll get there | |
| 01:06 | * indradg | is completely fox with this sandbox error in patch application |
| 01:06 | indradg | s/fox/foxed |
| 01:08 | dcook | indradg: :( |
| 01:10 | indradg | dcook: i keep getting -> fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt). |
| 01:10 | Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. | |
| 01:10 | Cannot fall back to three-way merge. | |
| 01:10 | my local repo is synced up | |
| 01:11 | dcook | Is that someone else's patch you're testing? |
| 01:12 | I've seen that happen when the author needs to rebase their patch against master | |
| 01:19 | indradg | dcook: nope... my own stuff |
| 01:19 | when i run -> git rebase origin/master | |
| 01:20 | I get -> Current branch bug_12815 is up to date. | |
| 01:28 | eythian | how many patches away from master is it? |
| 01:44 | wizzyrea | maybe you need to git fetch? |
| 01:44 | I usually do git fetch && git rebase origin/master to get my master branch up to date | |
| 01:45 | indradg ^ | |
| 01:45 | indradg | wizzyrea: while being on your working branch? |
| 01:49 | eythian | wizzyrea: git pull --rebase does that |
| 01:49 | assuming there's a tracking branch set, which there should be | |
| 01:52 | indradg | ok! this is getting slightly crazy! about 4 hours back I did a fresh kohaclone. Just to be sure. mv-ed my kohaclone out of the way, brought in the 4 hour old repo backup. |
| 01:52 | created a branch qa_bug_12815 as if I was testing someone else's patch | |
| 01:53 | then git am -3 -i -u <patch> | |
| 01:53 | no complaint... nothing... code runs | |
| 01:53 | wizzyrea, eythian | |
| 01:54 | eythian | that's what I'd expect |
| 02:01 | indradg | eythian: same patches attached in bugzilla, and yet sandbox is barfing :( |
| 02:02 | eythian | the patches are probably based off a hash that the sandboxes don't have |
| 02:02 | they may not be totally current. | |
| 02:03 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 02:03 | I'd suspect the sandbox needs to fetch/pull | |
| 02:07 | indradg | wizzyrea: hmmm btw, just tried with bug 12539 that rangi requested for sign-offs |
| 02:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12539 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove hardcoded theme from C4/Templates.pm |
| 02:08 | indradg | and this is the error in this case - http://pastebin.com/H3PHQZGm |
| 02:08 | wizzyrea ^^^ | |
| 02:10 | @later tell Joubu can you please confirm on biblibre sandboxes. this happens on sandbox 7 | |
| 02:10 | huginn | indradg: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:10 | indradg | s/happpens/happened/ |
| 02:11 | wizzyrea | yeah looks like it's not up to date |
| 02:11 | eythian: I keep meaning to change my default behaviour of git pull. | |
| 02:12 | but there's also a part of me that likes seeing both parts. | |
| 02:12 | eythian | I almost never use pull |
| 02:12 | wizzyrea | me either. |
| 02:12 | *almost* never. | |
| 02:14 | indradg: those patches apply fine on master for me - I'd say the fault lies with the sandbox. | |
| 02:15 | indradg | wizzyrea: could you find a moment to see if patches 1 - 4 of bug 12815 applies or not? i wasted almost 5 hours thinking I was doing something wrong :( |
| 02:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 02:15 | * indradg | needs to read more on git #notetoself |
| 02:18 | wizzyrea | yeah I just did everything that is on the bug, they all apply :) |
| 02:18 | indradg | dang! |
| 02:19 | thank you wizzyrea | |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | yep nw, now go to bed :) |
| 02:19 | indradg | heh |
| 02:19 | yes ma'am! | |
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| 03:21 | dcook | Tomcat...you're no fun to use... no fun at all.. |
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| 05:18 | dcook | hey cait :) |
| 05:18 | cait | morning dcook :) |
| 05:19 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:20 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 05:21 | heh | |
| 05:21 | i think that's from a tv series or something | |
| 05:21 | eythian | ? |
| 05:21 | oh | |
| 05:22 | I just figured it's how Germans tend to do things, they are a bit weird after all :) | |
| 05:22 | wahanui: germany | |
| 05:22 | wahanui | germany is where germs come from. Ask me about germs. |
| 05:22 | cait | :P |
| 05:22 | not weirder than nzers i would say | |
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| 05:48 | indradg | hi... how do i configure git-bz? |
| 05:48 | cait | git-bz? |
| 05:48 | wahanui | hmmm... git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 05:48 | cait | i think it shoudl be all there |
| 05:48 | important is to check out the fishsoup branch and set the git variables | |
| 05:49 | pastebot | "indradg" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "this is the error I'm facing" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/177 |
| 05:50 | indradg | cait: followed the wiki link to the T; python v 2.7.4 and pointed to by /usr/bin/python |
| 05:50 | :-( | |
| 05:51 | cait | hm |
| 05:51 | i'd check you have set your bugzilla login | |
| 05:51 | indradg | hmmm |
| 05:58 | pastebot | "indradg" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "cait: my ~/.gitconfig" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/178 |
| 05:58 | indradg | cait ^^ |
| 05:59 | i don't see anything that shouldn't be the way it should | |
| 06:00 | cait | hm not sure |
| 06:00 | i think it does look more like a config thing to me, because it seems to try to do something with the cookie | |
| 06:01 | normally git bz would use a cookie to see if you are logged into bugzilla, but we changed it because on a server - no cookies | |
| 06:01 | so it learned to use your login information | |
| 06:01 | if you do a git branch in the git repositoriy of git bz | |
| 06:01 | which branch are you on= | |
| 06:01 | ? | |
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| 06:16 | ashimema | morning. |
| 06:16 | wahanui | Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 06:16 | dcook | heya ashimema |
| 06:16 | wahanui | hmmm... ashimema is on qa now .) |
| 06:18 | ashimema | that's a new one wahanui.. |
| 06:18 | my cat certainly is wanting breakfast | |
| 06:19 | * cait | waves |
| 06:19 | ashimema | hi cait |
| 06:19 | do you ever sleep cait? | |
| 06:20 | cait | sleep? |
| 06:20 | wahanui | sleep is an addiction that can be cured! |
| 06:23 | indradg | morning ashimema |
| 06:24 | I've a question for you, how frequently are your sandboxes synced with koha master? | |
| 06:24 | wahanui for a bot, you are wise | |
| 06:24 | wahanui | OK, indradg. |
| 06:25 | ashimema | nightly |
| 06:25 | at 1.15 am GMT | |
| 06:27 | indradg | ashimema: thanks :) |
| 06:27 | ashimema | for instance.. this morning they are behind master by one commit. |
| 06:28 | indradg | ashimema: that explains the hash fails :) |
| 06:28 | ashimema | I was tempted to resync ever time a sandbox was requested.. but that ended up with a larger number of failing to apply |
| 06:28 | I can manually update one for you if you like? | |
| 06:28 | indradg | ok |
| 06:28 | ashimema: that would be nice :) | |
| 06:29 | ashimema | ok.. sandbox0 and sandbox1 are now synced with master. |
| 06:31 | I just went ahead and updated all of them | |
| 06:31 | now you can pick and choose | |
| 06:31 | Bug 12176 - Remove HTML from additem.pl | |
| 06:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12176 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Passed QA , Remove HTML from additem.pl |
| 06:31 | ashimema | is the latest commit on them all.. |
| 06:32 | indradg | thats awesome! |
| 06:32 | ashimema++ :D | |
| 06:32 | ashimema | your welcome |
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| 06:34 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:42 | ashimema | cheers for persevering so on the SRU patches marcelr |
| 06:42 | marcelr | hi ashimena |
| 06:42 | time to finish that :) | |
| 06:43 | ashimema | :-) |
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| 06:45 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:45 | wahanui | what's up, reiveune |
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| 06:46 | magnuse | marcelr++ for not giving up on sru! |
| 06:46 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 06:51 | dcook | ++ for all! |
| 06:51 | * dcook | waves to reiveune, magnuse, and marcelr |
| 06:51 | magnuse | hiya dcook |
| 06:51 | dcook | :) |
| 06:51 | magnuse | and marcelr |
| 06:51 | wahanui | somebody said marcelr was looking for a signoff on follow up 6786 |
| 06:51 | marcelr | bug 6786 |
| 06:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6786 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, m.de.rooy, CLOSED FIXED, False detection of index names in Search; make index names case insensitive |
| 06:52 | marcelr | hi dcook |
| 06:52 | magnuse | probably not looking for a signff then :-) |
| 06:52 | indradg | at the risk of sounding like a crackpot, we don't have a 'bootstrap' in the staff client.. do we? |
| 06:52 | marcelr | dcook: bug 7710 has my attention too |
| 06:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , multiple holds per title |
| 06:54 | dcook | indradg: Well, that's a good question. |
| 06:54 | indradg: We only have a prog theme, but it includes bootstrap in it | |
| 06:54 | If I recall correctly | |
| 06:55 | marcelr: Glad to hear it :). I do think it's a really tricky one :/. | |
| 06:55 | marcelr | holds are |
| 06:55 | dcook | Totally |
| 06:56 | * dcook | doesn't even use holds at his local library |
| 06:56 | indradg | dcook: heh... i know that... mtompset's left a comment on my patch that had me scratching my head |
| 06:56 | dcook | But that's due to a different policy decision... |
| 06:56 | indradg: Ahh, fair enough :) | |
| 06:57 | indradg | so, just wanted to sure, before i made a complete display of ignorance :) |
| 06:57 | dcook | Hehe |
| 06:57 | Yeah, I used to make a complete display of ignorance quite often in 2012 and 2013 I think | |
| 06:58 | I think I've gotten a bit better in 2014 | |
| 06:58 | Although I double-check everything and write out everything to the point that no one will want to read what I put ;) | |
| 06:58 | ashimema | we all do it from time to time.. |
| 06:58 | me more often than many I reckon | |
| 07:00 | indradg | :) |
| 07:02 | Joubu | Hello |
| 07:02 | indradg | morning Joubu |
| 07:03 | Joubu | indradg: What happened on sandbox 7? |
| 07:03 | indradg | Joubu, my cluelessness about the time of re-sync with master :P |
| 07:05 | ashimema | Joubu.. your snadboxes still sync to master on a nightly basis don't they ? |
| 07:05 | Joubu | indradg: something to know: the sandboxes update the Koha src at midnight GMT (or something like that). |
| 07:05 | yep | |
| 07:06 | ashimema | I was saying to indradg that I was tempted to add a sync to master as part of the sandbox setup call.. |
| 07:06 | so your 'always' up to date. | |
| 07:06 | Joubu | Yes, this should be like that |
| 07:07 | ashimema | I still have to run a very slightly different versino to you.. as we're running them all on one vm here on a multi-tenant setup |
| 07:07 | Joubu | ashimema: actually both should be done: if a sandbox does not receive a request for 1 month, the git fetch will be quite long |
| 07:08 | ashimema | at some point I should take the effort to make it work both ways (multi-tenant and single-tenant) then send you a pull request |
| 07:08 | Yeah.. I was thinking that.. | |
| 07:08 | remind me.. can you test over multiple days with the current setup.. i't sbeen a while since I looked at the code. | |
| 07:09 | I don't recall it checking your test branch back out after the master update | |
| 07:09 | Joubu | ashimema: no, the src is reset to master |
| 07:09 | and the DB is drop/recreate | |
| 07:09 | ashimema | Thought so.. |
| 07:10 | that's another enhancement I was thinking of doing.. | |
| 07:10 | adding an option to say I want this sandbox for x days (within reason) | |
| 07:11 | Joubu | apparently not the DB it seems |
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| 07:12 | Joubu | ashimema: yes there are a loooot of enh to dev for sandboxes. And the code is not really friendly... |
| 07:12 | ashimema | its a great start.. neither of us has enough time to really work on them though |
| 07:12 | ;) | |
| 07:14 | * cait | learned things about taxes today she didn't want to know |
| 07:14 | cait | or acq in genearl |
| 07:14 | it can be necessary to have 2 different invoices for 2 different vendors for one book, because customs gets a part and then the bookseller gets a part | |
| 07:15 | and different taxes for the same thing - like a print serial with online access - because electronic is 19 and print is 7... | |
| 07:15 | magnuse | kia ora cait! |
| 07:15 | * cait | is horrified heh |
| 07:16 | cait | oh and last but not least: order from one vendor - pay another |
| 07:16 | magnuse | such fun! |
| 07:16 | "buying books" - it sounds so simple... | |
| 07:17 | * indradg | is a blind fool! |
| 07:18 | Joubu | cait: whaou, it's crazy! |
| 07:18 | cait | it totally is |
| 07:18 | i wonder | |
| 07:18 | how they do that... 2 parts of taxes for the same thing? | |
| 07:19 | and if it would make sense to have that calculatons in a separate table then to allow for 1:n relationships to an order line later... | |
| 07:22 | Joubu | cait: where do you would like to set a 1:n relationship? between aqorders and ? |
| 07:22 | cait | i am trying to imagine how that woudl look like on the page - the 7 and 19 percent taxes for the same thing... thing |
| 07:23 | Joubu | hum, I don't know :) |
| 07:23 | cait | i thik the problem really is, that you'd need a way to specifiy partial costs with different taxes, like what francharb wanted for freight, but not a freight field only but something repeatable with a type |
| 07:24 | type - gst rate - amount or something | |
| 07:24 | i am still a little scared | |
| 07:24 | but it's good to get told what acq needs, better to know... | |
| 07:24 | Joubu | But this can happen somewhere else than Germany? |
| 07:24 | cait | not sure, but i wouldn't rule it out |
| 07:24 | :) | |
| 07:24 | Joubu | or it's just a Germany specific crazy idea? |
| 07:24 | cait | @quote get 123 |
| 07:24 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 07:24 | huginn | cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 07:25 | Joubu | ... |
| 07:25 | cait | i think the idea to be able to split costs i can undertand |
| 07:25 | a system to not ony have a total, but varous entries... i think that could be useful in different cases - like customs, freight, different services, etc. | |
| 07:26 | entries that combine to a total | |
| 07:26 | marcelr: it seems dcook is also thinking about multiple holds, did you see his comment on 7710? | |
| 07:26 | marcelr | hi cait: yes i noticed thx |
| 07:27 | cait | i guess ultimately there will have to be different apporaches available to solve this |
| 07:39 | ashimema | bug 7710 |
| 07:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , multiple holds per title |
| 07:40 | ashimema | I'm sure I asked a couple of our libraries to look at the tax rfc.. |
| 07:40 | hope they bothered to comment on it. | |
| 07:40 | * ashimema | heads off to check |
| 07:40 | cait | ashimema: not much on the wiki so far |
| 07:40 | i will try to add more comments... but i am not sure it will help solve all the craziness | |
| 07:41 | the requirements, not the rfc | |
| 07:41 | ashimema | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/GST_Rewrite_RFC |
| 07:41 | that one right? | |
| 07:42 | cait | yes |
| 07:48 | ashimema | cait.. we have that issue too in the UK it seems. |
| 07:48 | where a single item can have multiple tax rates applied to it | |
| 07:49 | cait | .. congratulations? |
| 07:50 | marcelr | Joubu: you still have a non-pushed patch on bug 11518 which is in Pushed to master-state; so it will probably be ignored? |
| 07:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype |
| 07:50 | ashimema | That's the bit that's holding me back on passing TestBuilder marcelr ;) |
| 07:51 | I waiting for khall to turn up so I can quiz him on a few bits | |
| 07:51 | marcelr | i did not look at TestBuilder actually |
| 07:52 | Joubu | marcelr: it is a patch for discussion. |
| 07:53 | marcelr | yes, but it will not receive much attention in this status |
| 07:54 | Joubu | marcelr: I asked some people to have a look, but it did not obtained unanimous agreement |
| 07:55 | marcelr | too bad that you cannot see it on the report itself |
| 07:55 | ashimema | marcelr.. there's a followup in the TestBuilder stuff that I 'think' achieves the same thing as Joubu's followup in bug 11518 but in a totally different way.. |
| 07:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype |
| 07:56 | ashimema | but I need some clarification before moving further on either approach.. |
| 07:56 | marcelr | ashimema: where specifically? |
| 07:56 | Joubu | (actually I thought I sent an email to koha-devel, but I don't find any mark of that) |
| 07:56 | ashimema | bug 12603 |
| 07:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , TestBuilder - Module to simplify the writing of tests |
| 07:57 | ashimema | comment 5 is the golden goose |
| 07:58 | and comment 6 is Kyles alternate followup patch | |
| 07:58 | Joubu | marcelr: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]4-07-07#i_1533537 |
| 07:58 | marcelr: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]4-07-18#i_1538117 | |
| 07:58 | indradg | hi... is by any chance a sign-off message supposed to come into the bugzilla as an attachment / a patch? |
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| 07:59 | Joubu | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]4-07-09#i_1534491 |
| 08:00 | marcelr | everybody takes a look, but you had no answers so far.. |
| 08:00 | kijken, niet kopen | |
| 08:01 | take a look, do not buy (dutch shopping) | |
| 08:01 | cait | indradg: what do you want to do? :) |
| 08:02 | ashimema | Yeah.. |
| 08:02 | seems noone rally knows it well enough to give a sensible answer | |
| 08:03 | Colins added some comments to the tx RFC for us now :) | |
| 08:04 | indradg | cait: figure out what I'm supposed to do when i receive a sign-off |
| 08:06 | Joubu | indradg: wait for the qa :) |
| 08:07 | cait | indradg: the sign offer should switch to 'signed off' and then qa sees it and will get to it... as soon as time permits |
| 08:08 | indradg | Joubu: I'm :-) however, in the meanwhile, some enlightenment on what to do with this -> http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]31223&action=edit will be great :) |
| 08:08 | cait ^^^ that's why i asked | |
| 08:09 | am I supposed to obsolete it or do nothing? | |
| 08:10 | Joubu | indradg: the patches are not SO |
| 08:11 | indradg: it seems Marc (Véron) started to SO it, but found an issue at the end. And did not finish to SO | |
| 08:11 | ashimema | damn that bug has got confusing. |
| 08:12 | Joubu | indradg: the SO patch should be obsoleted |
| 08:12 | ashimema | indradg: which patches are still relevant |
| 08:12 | indradg | Joubu: thank you :-) |
| 08:12 | Joubu | indradg: it's what I undestand... |
| 08:18 | ashimema | indradg.. I think you cna also switch status on that bug from 'failed qa' to 'needs signoff' |
| 08:19 | I can't see what M Tompsett is talking about.. there's not bad prog references in the current patch set.. so maybe you already fixed it. | |
| 08:23 | indradg | ashimema: nope! I've not written single line for the prog opac template, the opac-bottom.inc has quite a different structure |
| 08:23 | ashimema | deffo set the status back to needs sign off then |
| 08:24 | and one of us will take a look at signing it off again. | |
| 08:24 | cait | Joubu: bad news |
| 08:24 | wahanui | hmmm... bad news is that you're probably royally screwed |
| 08:24 | indradg | in the meanwhile have put up patches for the two typos and that accidental license deletion in about.tt |
| 08:24 | cait | Joubu: it seems to be a thing in the EU |
| 08:25 | Joubu: book with dvd - book is a book... dvd is a service... so different tax rates applying - things like that | |
| 08:26 | Joubu | cait: Ok. I don't plan to include it in the development. But I keep it in mind. |
| 08:27 | ashimema | Joubu.. are you intending on doing this as series of bugs.. or one monster bug.. |
| 08:27 | cait | good question |
| 08:27 | ashimema | I'm thinking a series will be much easier to split accross the qa/signoff team people |
| 08:27 | cait | i think first we need to move over... but we also should keep in mind that we might want a 1: n in the future |
| 08:27 | ashimema | I'm also pretty keen to see rangi's approach taken.. write tests first :) |
| 08:28 | cait | so would be good and try not to make that too hard as a next scary step |
| 08:28 | ashimema | but then I'm not the one doing the coding.. i'm mostly interested in making sure it gets throuh once you've put all the hard work in ;) |
| 08:28 | Joubu | ashimema: a series of bugs, of course. I already started. |
| 08:28 | ashimema | brill |
| 08:28 | cait | Joubu: i like the idea of splitting up the ACQ thing |
| 08:28 | Joubu | bug 12827 |
| 08:28 | cait | hm C4:Acquisitions that is |
| 08:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12827 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , NewOrder returns basketno |
| 08:29 | Joubu | the omnibus is bug 1825 |
| 08:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1825 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Hold awaiting pickup seems incorrect. |
| 08:29 | Joubu | oops |
| 08:29 | bug 12825 | |
| 08:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , GST / VAT rewrite |
| 08:29 | ashimema | cheers |
| 08:30 | indradg | cait: in india books and journals attract sales tax, the subscriptions of serials or online resources sales + service tax and if a DVD then sales tax + VAT and service tax if a subscription |
| 08:30 | cait | ok, so we also got that in india |
| 08:30 | ... | |
| 08:30 | it's global madness! | |
| 08:31 | Joubu: don't get scared, but i will try to add the use cases they send me to your wiki page | |
| 08:31 | Joubu | it's a global conspiracy! |
| 08:31 | cait | to have them online somewhere |
| 08:31 | so we can keep it in mind and maybe think of ways to not make it harder to implement | |
| 08:31 | indradg | we actually might need geography specific switches |
| 08:32 | kinda reminds me of early days of programming for NN and IE :P | |
| 08:32 | cait | but i think first we need to consolidate(?) the current feature set |
| 08:32 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 08:32 | cait | indradg: so far i think we could put it into a general system, with some custom pull downs |
| 08:33 | Joubu | cait: yes, the main goal is to rewrite and fix existing bugs. |
| 08:33 | cait | but gathering use cases will certainly be good |
| 08:33 | indradg | cait: plus there is more madness when the books and journals or their subscriptions are foreign sourced |
| 08:33 | cait | indradg: that's true here too :) |
| 08:34 | ashimema | I will certainly be following the series with interest Joubu.. you have our support here.. I know Colin will also be wathcing it for changes so he can keep the EDI stuff in line :) |
| 08:34 | indradg | the VAT chargebacks that do not materials for an overseas sale |
| 08:34 | s/materials/materialise/ | |
| 08:34 | Joubu | ashimema: thanks! good to know |
| 08:36 | cait | Joubu: i will try to keep on it as well |
| 08:36 | Joubu | ashimema: I started with some refactoring, to make the code more readable. That's why I need feedback (cf my email on koha-devel yesterday) |
| 08:36 | cait | i am lookig forward to see that code improved and centralized as much as possible |
| 08:37 | and then... wemight be able to implement the other crazy schemes too | |
| 08:37 | Joubu | marcelr: I answered Marc in comment 9 (bug 12603) |
| 08:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , TestBuilder - Module to simplify the writing of tests |
| 08:38 | Joubu | "The need is to provide some examples on how use this module for further uses." |
| 08:38 | marcelr | yeah i saw that |
| 08:38 | indradg | cait http://www.ipetitions.com/peti[…]brary-association |
| 08:39 | Joubu | marcelr: and the Closure* files are old and unused files |
| 08:39 | marcelr | ok |
| 08:39 | they should not have been there at all | |
| 08:41 | cait | Joubu: do you think there will be some time to expand the colvis things now that the base it's in? |
| 08:41 | i know... time is always the big problem | |
| 08:41 | i think you said you will use it for the acq? | |
| 08:41 | Joubu | cait: I plan to add colvis to the acq tables (after the rewrite) |
| 08:41 | cait | ok |
| 08:42 | maybe i can try to do another simple one sometime... but ... gah. distance study first right now :( | |
| 08:43 | Joubu | Does someone have a good idea for 12833? |
| 08:43 | bug 12833 | |
| 08:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12833 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Patron search no longer searches extended attributes |
| 08:44 | Joubu | it's a major one, I can provide a patch quickly But I don't know how to fix it cleanly |
| 08:48 | cait | sorry, i have to pass |
| 08:48 | bit grumpy i missed it :) | |
| 08:49 | ashimema | I'll have a read of the problem Joubu and get back to you if my brain starts to work ;) |
| 09:01 | Joubu | ashimema: Colin is not here? |
| 09:06 | ashimema | He's not on IRC at the minute.. |
| 09:07 | think he's head down in edi at the minute.. | |
| 09:07 | did you want him for somthing? | |
| 09:08 | Joubu | ashimema: just ask him something about the notes he let on the tax rfc. It's not urgent |
| 09:08 | ashimema | I can probably get him to come on here.. one tic |
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| 09:13 | ashimema | Joubu.. he's just kicking his irc client into life now ;) |
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| 09:14 | Joubu | Hi ColinC :) Thanks for your notes on the tax RFC. |
| 09:15 | What do you mean by "I've seen at least 3 contradictory defnitions of the RRP acronym". On the RFC or on master? | |
| 09:15 | ColinC | No in previous discussions of it |
| 09:16 | Joubu | 2/ About the rounding: I planned to add a syspref to manage the number of decimal. So we will need something like decimal(13,4) in DB, I think |
| 09:16 | and we need to have the same type for all fields storing prices | |
| 09:17 | ColinC | yes an "approved" Koha monetary type |
| 09:17 | Joubu | 3/ "We should probably avoid truncated names": What do you suggest? |
| 09:18 | ColinC | use full terms like list_price etc |
| 09:19 | Joubu | recommended_retail_price_including_tax is quite long, don't you think?: ) |
| 09:20 | I am completely up for discussion on the names. | |
| 09:20 | ColinC | Yes but isnt that just list_price? |
| 09:21 | Joubu | ColinC: no, there is a listprice and a rpp field |
| 09:21 | are | |
| 09:21 | cait | yeah i got confused there too |
| 09:21 | it seems we have rrp and listprice, and also unit price ... and gah. | |
| 09:22 | Joubu | actually the listprice DB field == "Vendor price" on the interface |
| 09:22 | and rrp (replacement cost on the interface) == listprice adjusted for the currency | |
| 09:22 | ColinC | I think at some point in the rfc theres a list of price fields we should ensure the definitions are in the code doc |
| 09:23 | I think if rrp = replacement cost we should use replacement_cost | |
| 09:23 | Joubu | ColinC: I kept all the field names, just added _et and _it |
| 09:23 | for exclude and include tax | |
| 09:24 | what they represent will be the same as before | |
| 09:24 | cait | i thik replacement cost was just wrong, not sure where that came from |
| 09:25 | Joubu | yes, that's why I changed the description in the RFC |
| 09:25 | * magnuse | thought rrp = recommended retail price |
| 09:25 | Joubu | magnuse: that's it |
| 09:25 | ColinC | In the UK RRP was the standard book trade term for recommended retail price |
| 09:26 | Joubu | "rrp_et => recommended retail price excluding tax " :) |
| 09:26 | ColinC | Its been supplanted by list price as RRP was also associated with a now obsolete book trade legal framework |
| 09:26 | Joubu | That's why I told that recommended_retail_price_excluding_tax is too looong |
| 09:28 | cait | ColinC: as native speaking commenter... you get bonus points for suggesting something that makes sense :) |
| 09:28 | What do people think of not using gst/vat but just tax? | |
| 09:29 | Joubu | cait: it makes sense to me |
| 09:31 | ColinC | definitely |
| 09:34 | Just looking at Edifact invoices and tax may be of 3 types VAT | GST or Duty ... I think just using tax in Koha is much clearer | |
| 09:34 | cait | ColinC: even more types here i learned... |
| 09:34 | see my last comment in future enh | |
| 09:35 | ColinC | For those places that dont use it GST just sounds weird but we all recognize Tax .... less baffling for translators I'd think |
| 09:35 | cait | true |
| 09:36 | hm looks 4 types int heir list - with different rates | |
| 09:36 | ah sorry - one library sent me a lit of taxes they use | |
| 09:39 | ColinC | On UK invoices you usually see the terms net price and gross price |
| 09:40 | cait | another question: tax registered - does it do something? is there code for it? and do we need to factor that in? |
| 09:41 | Joubu | cait: I am going to sent a bug report for that :) |
| 09:41 | cait: it's not in used in any calculation | |
| 09:41 | cait: it's just a boolean, at the moment | |
| 09:42 | cait | i have a feeling like it used to be used... but - i never coud find out for what |
| 09:43 | but maybe before we remove better to check - it doesn't hurt if it's just an information you can store, but should be documented that way | |
| 09:43 | ColinC | It might be something people want to record but I cant see it affecting any operations within Koha |
| 09:46 | cait | lunch time here - happy to see the discussion - hope we can figure it out :) |
| 09:46 | Joubu | bug 12839 |
| 09:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12839 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , aqbooksellers.gstreg is never used |
| 09:46 | ColinC | FYI there are 4 types of price distinguished in Edifact Invoices |
| 09:49 | (calculation_price_net calculation_price_gross information_price_incl_tax information_price_excl_tax | |
| 09:49 | ashimema | madnes |
| 09:50 | ColinC | both the net and gross exclude tax as that is in a separate field |
| 09:53 | Joubu | I am going to sent an email to koha-devel to ask some thought about our discussion. |
| 09:53 | ashimema | both net and gross exclude tax.. that's really wierd. |
| 09:53 | what's the differentiating factor between net and gross in edi terms then? | |
| 09:54 | ColinC | Not really if you are an accountant you want to keep the tax column separate from the goods column |
| 09:55 | ashimema | which makes sense.. but what else differentiates gross and net if it's not tax? |
| 09:55 | pre discount/surcharge.. that sort of thing? | |
| 09:56 | ColinC | net = price minus allowances & discounts plus charges (i.e. what you actually pay supplier for goods) |
| 09:57 | gross = price exclusive of allowances and charges | |
| 09:58 | ashimema | I understand now.. |
| 09:58 | cheers | |
| 10:01 | ColinC | I think theres a market for a 'Basic accountancy for programmers' book |
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| 10:20 | marcelr | Joubu: could you sign off on the last follow-up for 11518 please ? |
| 10:23 | ashimema | khall_away ping |
| 10:24 | Joubu | marcelr: I would prefer someone else to sign it off. |
| 10:24 | marcelr | you see a problem? |
| 10:25 | Joubu | marcelr: not me, but others saw problems :) |
| 10:25 | marcelr | you saw that i added a followup? |
| 10:25 | Joubu | yep |
| 10:25 | marcelr | ok |
| 10:26 | i will ask kyle, galen or tomas then | |
| 10:26 | you asked them to look at it.. | |
| 10:27 | ashimema | that's probably best marcelr.. |
| 10:27 | marcelr | you can do it too of course, ashimema ? |
| 10:27 | Joubu | marcelr: "There is no need to define biblioitem routines, if we can access them via biblioitemnumber." |
| 10:27 | marcelr | ? |
| 10:28 | ashimema | Yeah.. I'm reading the code again.. but I'm still a bit of a dbic rookie |
| 10:28 | Joubu | marcelr: yes but it's better to call $biblio->biblioitem->items than $biblio->biblioitemnumber->items |
| 10:28 | marcelr | Joubu: the relation is called biblioitemnumber |
| 10:28 | Joubu | it makes more sense, I think |
| 10:28 | marcelr: yes, the relation is badly named :) | |
| 10:28 | marcelr | that's my point |
| 10:29 | i do not like to define something to replace a bad name | |
| 10:30 | Joubu | marcelr: It was one of the main goal of the first patch |
| 10:30 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=27345 | |
| 10:30 | +++ b/Koha/Schema/Result/Item.pm | |
| 10:31 | look at the new belongs_to relations the patch added | |
| 10:31 | the need was to call biblioitem instead of biblioitemnumber. That's why I kept this idea | |
| 10:32 | marcelr | if that is a real need, isn't there a better way to do it? |
| 10:34 | Joubu | I thought I proposed a better way to do :) |
| 10:34 | marcelr | :) |
| 10:34 | too many people have too many ideas.. | |
| 10:35 | Joubu | we need ideas! |
| 10:55 | cait | our results xslt is very ugly. |
| 10:55 | not an idea exactly.. more a gneral complaint | |
| 10:55 | * cait | goes back to reading it |
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| 11:18 | khall | mornin cait et al! |
| 11:19 | cait | morning khall :) |
| 11:19 | wahanui | morning khall :) are you a dad yet? |
| 11:19 | khall | wahanui: I've been a dad for months now! |
| 11:19 | wahanui | khall: sorry... |
| 11:20 | indradg | lol |
| 11:20 | morning khall | |
| 11:20 | khall | morning! |
| 11:20 | wahanui | morning is a state of cat |
| 11:20 | cait | mirning khall :)? |
| 11:20 | morning khall :)? | |
| 11:20 | wahanui | morning khall :) are you a dad yet? |
| 11:21 | indradg | wahanui: who is schrodinger? |
| 11:21 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, indradg |
| 11:21 | cait | forget morning khall |
| 11:21 | forget morning khall :) | |
| 11:21 | wahanui | cait: I forgot morning khall :) |
| 11:21 | * khall | is getting very confused ; ) |
| 11:21 | cait | me too |
| 11:21 | our xslt to make the material types and things is ... ocnfusing | |
| 11:27 | ashimema | morning khall |
| 11:28 | khall | mornin ashimema! |
| 11:43 | Joubu | khall: It's not possible to remove C4::Utils::Datatables::Member |
| 11:44 | khall: I am not sure you answer me correctly. The both Search routine are completly differents | |
| 11:44 | khall | Joubu: that's the problem |
| 11:45 | Joubu | khall: not really a problem. C4::Members::Search should be removed |
| 11:45 | cait | quick question... has a library of yours asked to display something ddc classifications or 84 so far? |
| 11:45 | khall | I don't think C4::Utils::Datatables::Member should be removed, |
| 11:45 | Joubu: other parts of Koha use C4::Members::Search | |
| 11:45 | cait | i am wondering it would make sense to add those to the xslt - we have a few |
| 11:45 | Joubu | khall: sorry, read too fast |
| 11:46 | khall: not a lot. | |
| 11:46 | just 1 or 2 occurrences it seems | |
| 11:47 | khall: the previous behavior was : search on attributes if no result in "standard" fields | |
| 11:47 | khall | yeah, but the search in C4::Utils::Datatables::Member has regressions. So it seems most logical to have C4::Utils::Datatables::Member use C4::Members::Search to get the patron data to convert into datatable format |
| 11:47 | Joubu | khall: the queries are not the same |
| 11:47 | khall | Joubu: yeah, it's not the best way to have it, but that's a separate bug basically. |
| 11:49 | ashimema | I agree that I don't like having two member search routines.. |
| 11:49 | khall | No matter what, we really shouldn't have two separate patron search subroutines |
| 11:49 | jinx! | |
| 11:49 | ashimema | but in their current form I can see why we do.. |
| 11:49 | Joubu | yes I agree |
| 11:49 | ashimema | it's a hard one.. |
| 11:50 | I don't really like the idea of pushing Joubu's code for datatables to reference the other.. | |
| 11:50 | as I personally think his code is 'neater'.. | |
| 11:50 | Joubu | All patron searchs should be done using the ws |
| 11:50 | khall | agreed, it's not good |
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| 11:51 | ashimema | I 'think' i'de rather see a bit of a refator such that a single 'search' is moved into the Koha namespace and is reference by both the current ones' |
| 11:51 | but that's obvisoyl mroe work again :( | |
| 11:51 | * ashimema | can't type today. |
| 11:51 | khall | agreed |
| 11:51 | ashimema | that I can't type? |
| 11:51 | ;) | |
| 11:52 | Joubu | so, my original question was: 'When should we search on patron attributes?' |
| 11:53 | ashimema | good question.. i have no answer :( |
| 11:53 | khall | I'm a bit slow on the keyboard this morning ; ) |
| 11:53 | Joubu | because I am not a fan of the answer: "refactor and create a new module" :) |
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| 11:53 | Joubu | Does that make sense to add a new search option "patron attr"? |
| 11:54 | (like standard, email, phone, etc., patron attributes) | |
| 11:56 | khall | Joubu: I think the answer is still to use C4::Members::Search and to fix the way it searches. You could even overwrite the existing C4::Members::Search with the main part of C4::Utils::Datatables::Member::search and have C4::Utils::Datatables::Member::search call C4::Members::Search to get the patron data to convert into the format for datatables |
| 11:56 | ashimema | That's basically what I was saying.. |
| 11:57 | Only I wanted to take the opportunity to shift said routine into Koha namespace.. but basically it's the same thoughts. | |
| 11:57 | Joubu | which is not trivial |
| 11:58 | ashimema | what did it allow before Joubu.. regarding your original question.. |
| 11:59 | to search specifcially on attributes and to fallback on attributes during a normal search? | |
| 11:59 | Joubu | that makes sense |
| 12:00 | ashimema | I think the 'standard' search should mimick the original default search behavior.. which I think was to fall back to attributes if no match is found? |
| 12:00 | khall | C4::Members::Search would always search patron attributes unless a quick cardnumber match was found. |
| 12:00 | ashimema | matts.. your alive :) |
| 12:01 | matts | back from holidays, yes :) |
| 12:01 | ashimema | hope you had a good break |
| 12:02 | matts | yep, it was a nice one, indeed |
| 12:02 | ashimema | If you get a moment any time.. you wouldn't fancy giving those last shibboleth patches the once over would you.. |
| 12:03 | they're just a retractor patch and some unit tests. | |
| 12:03 | pretty trivial to look at really.. though I have not idea if caits server is still about.. | |
| 12:03 | Joubu.. you happy with what your going to do for Members search then? | |
| 12:04 | I think factoring our the actual search code and making both use the same base code can be a future bug. | |
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| 12:05 | matts | ashimema, okay, i'll try to have a look at it ! |
| 12:05 | Joubu | not sure, khall the search on patron attributes should be done for standard fields too? |
| 12:05 | I don't think so | |
| 12:05 | khall | Joubu: that's how it's always worked |
| 12:05 | Joubu | khall: hum |
| 12:05 | * Joubu | is looking at the code |
| 12:06 | khall | not saying if that's the best solution or not, it's just how it's worked in previous releases |
| 12:06 | Joubu | ha yes, you are right |
| 12:06 | this routine is unecessary complicated... | |
| 12:07 | oleonard | Hi everyone |
| 12:07 | khall | I can totally agree with that. That's why I'd suggest fixing your code to search patron attributes and replacing C4::Members::Search with your code. |
| 12:07 | I'd love to see it use DBIC, but that can come later. | |
| 12:08 | that's how I discovered this in the first place, I was testing bug 12633 which DBIC's C4::Members::Search | |
| 12:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12633 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Failed QA , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Members |
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| 12:24 | cait | ashimema_lunch: matts: server is still about :) |
| 12:24 | matts | nice :) |
| 12:25 | cait | didn't find the time to kill it yet... and we are not done with shibboleth |
| 12:26 | tcohen | morni |
| 12:26 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 12:26 | sent you a mail | |
| 12:26 | tcohen | was reading it |
| 12:26 | marcelr | ok |
| 12:27 | tcohen | marcelr: you're getting closer :-D |
| 12:27 | marcelr | it never stop ;) |
| 12:29 | cait | trying again for my earlier question :) |
| 12:29 | (13:45:14) cait: quick question... has a library of yours asked to display something ddc classifications or 84 so far? | |
| 12:33 | hmm | |
| 12:33 | i will propose a patch, people can still fail it :) | |
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| 12:37 | cait | magnuse: i found http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_staff_client_RFC - did you work on display too? |
| 12:39 | ashimema_lunch | yeay cait++ |
| 12:41 | cait | hm? |
| 12:42 | ashimema: not realyl sure set on how to do it :) | |
| 12:42 | magnuse | cait: i don't think i got much beyond weiting the rfc... |
| 12:42 | cait | not really sure yet on how to do it - a lot of our classifications end up in 084 |
| 12:45 | * magnuse | gotta run |
| 12:48 | ashimema | huh.. set on hwo to do what cait? |
| 12:49 | cait | display, make searchable |
| 12:49 | the 084 is used here for very common rvk classification | |
| 12:49 | ashimema | oh.. the ddc question you asked? |
| 12:49 | cait | becuase marc doesn't have its own field for that... |
| 12:49 | yep | |
| 12:49 | i think i will start with ddc | |
| 12:49 | easier | |
| 12:50 | ashimema | i'm afraid I have no idea what ddc is ;) |
| 12:50 | cait | dewey decimal classification? :) |
| 12:50 | ashimema | showing my library ignorance here. |
| 12:50 | haha.. that make's sense. | |
| 12:50 | so.. bascially you want to be able to search upon 084 and display 084 | |
| 12:51 | cait | and 082 yep |
| 12:51 | but ... it's complicated | |
| 12:51 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 12:51 | cait | the classification in $a for 084 is determined by the classification scheme given in 084$2 |
| 12:51 | i'd favor a general solution much over a local one, because maintining local xslt and translations seems a bit nightmarish | |
| 12:52 | easier if yours are only english I guess | |
| 12:52 | ashimema | depending upon the classification scheme you’d want search to work differently in terms of truncation etc |
| 12:52 | cait | that's another problem yes |
| 12:52 | ashimema | yeah.. xlst translations are a mare.. |
| 12:52 | cait | i think with dom it culd be solvable, but not sure how yet |
| 12:52 | ashimema | we do share that problem more than you imagine |
| 12:52 | cait | also searching the classification together with the source.... |
| 12:52 | ashimema | really.. |
| 12:53 | cait | so can you fix it? :) |
| 12:53 | ashimema | I'm not actually sure if dom solves it or not.. |
| 12:53 | zebra is a magical beast.. | |
| 12:53 | cait | i think my first goal will be display |
| 12:53 | worrying about search in the next step | |
| 12:54 | ashimema | I think id'e almost be tempted to take that particualr field and index it in the database instead of zebra.. then add some clever rules to do queries on it. |
| 12:54 | but that's not me offering to do the work.. | |
| 12:54 | cait | hm? |
| 12:54 | ashimema | it's certianly worth exploring whether zebra can be clever first. |
| 12:54 | how is display complicated? | |
| 12:54 | jcamins | Using DOM, Zebra could assuredly do whatever it is you want to do. |
| 12:55 | cait | i think one of the problems i ran into last time is that the index i would use for classifications is our callnumber index |
| 12:55 | ashimema | do you use a mixed classification scheme or something.? |
| 12:55 | jcamins | The DOM configuration format is Turing-complete. |
| 12:55 | ashimema | jcamins.. that's cool |
| 12:55 | but beyond me then ;) | |
| 12:55 | cait | ashimema: records are from the unino catalog... 084 can contain at least rvk and their own and some other schemes |
| 12:55 | jcamins | ashimema: or an elephant gun permanently aimed at once's foot. |
| 12:55 | One or the other. | |
| 12:55 | ashimema | :) |
| 12:56 | jcamins | Not the XML format. The XML format is limited. But the actual DOM configuration is XSLT. |
| 12:56 | ashimema | so what are you struggling with for display cait? |
| 12:56 | oh.. I see. | |
| 12:56 | cait | ashimema: if people want to see that :) but i wil make it 'hideable' with css... and then we can see if someone has another idea |
| 12:56 | ashimema: later the problem will be linking to start a search from the display | |
| 12:57 | ashimema | lets get display sorted first aye cait ;) |
| 12:57 | cait | hah |
| 12:57 | you are just glad that you don't have to do it :) | |
| 12:58 | ashimema | indeed I am |
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| 13:15 | eternalsword | is there any way to force enhanced messages? it's kind of pointless to have it if the patron can just turn it off. |
| 13:16 | cait | you can hide the tab in the opac |
| 13:16 | eternalsword | good suggestion. |
| 13:16 | cait | and in 3.18 there will be a pref |
| 13:17 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 13:17 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
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| 13:23 | eternalsword | cait, has that pref made it to git main branch yet? |
| 13:23 | cait | eternalsword: not sure - it's very recent i think |
| 13:23 | @query messaging opac | |
| 13:23 | huginn | cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7224 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Allow patrons to pick their own preferred language |
| 13:23 | cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5617 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , fix-perl-path.pl misses some files | |
| 13:23 | cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add patron messaging preference to Batch Patrons Modification tool | |
| 13:23 | cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12340 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Checkboxes are shown for nonexistent SMS transports | |
| 13:24 | cait: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5765 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , patron messaging form template tests for SMS inconsistently | |
| 13:24 | cait | hm none of those |
| 13:24 | wahanui | none of those are required. |
| 13:24 | cait | maybe check bugzilla directly |
| 13:28 | eternalsword | I just checked the git log, doesn't look like it's made it there yet, I'll just hide the tab for now. |
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| 14:01 | eternalsword | messages don't seem to be getting put in the message queue. I tried overdue_notices.pl -t and nothing even though there are several that meet the criteria. What's the best way to debug? |
| 14:01 | cait | have to run - bye all |
| 14:01 | tcohen | khall: i'm trying to build libki, but it fails because it cannot find webkitwidgets script |
| 14:01 | cait | create an item due yesterdy and a notice trigger for the patron's library with 1 as the first delay and a notice -that should give you one |
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| 14:02 | khall | tcohen: what platform are you building it for? |
| 14:02 | tcohen | we are on ubuntu 14.04 |
| 14:03 | khall | sounds like you are missing one of the qt5 dev packages most likely |
| 14:03 | tcohen | qt5 :-D |
| 14:14 | ashimema | marcelr++ #busy bee on sru |
| 14:14 | poor tcohen having to try and keep up with all these bugs ;) | |
| 14:22 | eternalsword | do I need to enable anything for the message queue to work? |
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| 14:25 | Joubu | eternalsword: There is a cronjob script |
| 14:25 | misc/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl | |
| 14:27 | eternalsword | I mean to get messages to actually go into the message_queue db table. overdue notices, advanced notices, due notices are not populating. |
| 14:29 | and I've been running the cronjobs manually to see if any errors or warnings are thrown and nothing is. | |
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| 14:59 | Joubu | eternalsword: Do you have templates defined for these notices? |
| 14:59 | Do you have overdues? | |
| 15:00 | Did you create overdue rules? | |
| 15:00 | The patrons have an email defined? | |
| 15:00 | email address | |
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| 16:32 | Joubu | khall: patch submitted on bug 12833 |
| 16:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12833 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patron search no longer searches extended attributes |
| 16:32 | Joubu | bye #koha! |
| 16:37 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:35 | tcohen | can *anyone* test bug 12788 please? |
| 17:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records |
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| 17:36 | tcohen | we need it for 3.16... |
| 17:40 | cait | hm? |
| 17:46 | tcohen | 12788 |
| 17:46 | cait | bug 12788 |
| 17:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records |
| 17:46 | cait | ah |
| 17:46 | *grump* | |
| 17:46 | i'd almost like to leave it | |
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| 18:56 | wnickc | ashimema: does zebra daemon run on PTFS sandboxes? |
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| 18:56 | drojf | good evening #koha |
| 18:58 | bag | oh wow - wnickc isn't using CAPS today... Not enough coffee today? |
| 18:59 | wnickc | I felt conspicuous |
| 18:59 | dropped my caps | |
| 18:59 | and never ever enough coffee bag | |
| 19:00 | bag | wnickc: barton has this awesome little coffee graph he does from time to time |
| 19:00 | pianohacker | coffee graph? |
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| 19:01 | cait | hi drojf :) |
| 19:01 | hi bag and wnickc :) | |
| 19:01 | wnickc | hi cait |
| 19:01 | pianohacker | yo cait |
| 19:02 | bag | barton: show off your coffee graph |
| 19:02 | heya cait | |
| 19:02 | cait | wnickc: could you maybe take a look at bug 12788? |
| 19:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records |
| 19:02 | * cait | is looking for an experienced sign offer |
| 19:02 | wnickc | was just trying on PTFS sandbox but zebra wouldn't refresh |
| 19:03 | trying biblibre | |
| 19:03 | My good VM is on my laptop at home, I messed up the one at my desk | |
| 19:04 | cait | thx a lot! sorry to hear about the vm |
| 19:05 | barton | Coffee: |=========>|.........| 55 % |
| 19:05 | Coffee: |==================>| 99 % | |
| 19:06 | Coffee: |========================>| 127 % | |
| 19:06 | cait | ohoh |
| 19:06 | coffee overlaod | |
| 19:07 | barton: could you add a note how to see the breakage to bug 12847? :) | |
| 19:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Date comparisons in C4::Members::IssueSlip are broken |
| 19:08 | wnickc | barton: lol |
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| 19:09 | * cait | dives into her distance study course again |
| 19:10 | bgkriegel | Hi all |
| 19:10 | barton | cait -- writing that up now. |
| 19:11 | jcamins | Ah, bgkriegel... Tomas said I should get multiple opinions on how to brew my mate. What's your preferred method? |
| 19:11 | drojf | hi cait :) |
| 19:12 | jcamins | <-- keeps his priorities straight at all times |
| 19:12 | * cait | is interested too |
| 19:12 | bgkriegel | Hi jcamins, well i read what tomas said :) |
| 19:13 | I only put yerba, fresh, and change it a couple of times/days | |
| 19:14 | * cait | needs amore step by step thing :) |
| 19:14 | bgkriegel | But it's a long time since I bought a new mate |
| 19:15 | cait | ah |
| 19:15 | for the new mate | |
| 19:15 | drojf | oh you people from mate land and those going there. envy… |
| 19:15 | * cait | is confused now... and blames the distance study |
| 19:15 | bgkriegel | have a lot, from diffent sources |
| 19:15 | hehe | |
| 19:17 | barton | cait -- done. |
| 19:20 | bgkriegel | jcamins: http://snag.gy/BWcpl.jpg |
| 19:22 | jcamins | Wow. |
| 19:22 | How do you choose which to use? | |
| 19:24 | bgkriegel | at this moment i use those at the back |
| 19:24 | wnickc | cait: just wondering about the display of aliases in the results http://snag.gy/4Vx7d.jpg |
| 19:24 | could ge t bit long | |
| 19:24 | but they aren't in facets | |
| 19:28 | bgkriegel | jcamins: the one with small neck and the green one for sweet mate, the others without sugar |
| 19:28 | jcamins | That still leaves you with a lot of choices as any given moment! |
| 19:29 | bgkriegel | yes :) |
| 19:30 | but we tend to use only one, until it brakes | |
| 19:31 | jcamins | That makes sense, but what are the other eleven for? ;) |
| 19:31 | cait | bgkriegel: oh wow |
| 19:31 | wnickc: looks like you uncovered another bug maybe | |
| 19:32 | wnickc: hm i wonder, could you switch to xslt layout? | |
| 19:32 | i think it isn't | |
| 19:33 | wnickc | ah, all clear now |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Didn't we deprecate "normal" view in 3.10? |
| 19:33 | wnickc | I was just going to ask if non-xslt was deprecated |
| 19:33 | jcamins | I could be wrong. That was a long time ago. |
| 19:34 | And several thousand gray hairs ago. | |
| 19:34 | cait | jcamins: we did now i think |
| 19:34 | jcamins | (why yes, I *was* RM in between then and now) |
| 19:34 | cait | wnickc: did you turn of the pref to include the authorities? and changed the record after that? |
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| 19:36 | bgkriegel | jcamins: some of them are just ornaments, but almost all have been used |
| 19:36 | drojf | bgkriegel: wow that's impressive :D |
| 19:36 | wnickc | I did, but it didn't seem to make the extra names go away, unless my timing was wrong, ten minute wait for indexes on sandbox |
| 19:36 | or so it appears | |
| 19:36 | cait | 10 sounds about the usual default |
| 19:37 | wnickc | I signed off, but turned the includesee.. pref back on and will double check in 5 minutes |
| 19:41 | cait | wnickc++ |
| 19:45 | wnickc | cait: syspref on or off the see froms are hidden, looks good, thanks for catching xslt |
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| 19:59 | nengard | @later tell oleonard do you have any ideas how to alter the ebook js to not show the Location line if it's an ebook? http://catalog.goddard.edu/cgi[…]anch_group_limit= |
| 19:59 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:00 | cait | nengard: hm i am not showing the availability if it's an ebook in one ofour catalogs |
| 20:00 | sec | |
| 20:01 | nengard | The availability isn't showing which is good - but they have it set to show the location on another line so that's the problem |
| 20:03 | cait | $("#results a:contains('[electronic resource]') ~ span#location").hide(); try this |
| 20:03 | pianohacker | tilde? |
| 20:03 | cait | i looked it up back then, don't ask me now :) |
| 20:03 | it work! | |
| 20:04 | it works! | |
| 20:04 | wahanui | But it also eats babies. |
| 20:04 | cait | yeah well.. maybe |
| 20:05 | pianohacker | hahahahahaha |
| 20:06 | bag | But it also eats babies? a bit extreme |
| 20:06 | cait | hm it doesn't work on this page realy.. sec |
| 20:07 | hm works ok for the library... weird | |
| 20:08 | pianohacker | ahhhh http://api.jquery.com/next-siblings-selector/ |
| 20:08 | cait | ok, if i put it in the console, it doesn't seem to work quite right... but it might i fyou put it into opacuserjs... i think |
| 20:08 | or mabe it's because the structure is different there | |
| 20:11 | hm. i tink it should work, maybe try in the sys pref | |
| 20:13 | * cait | should go back to reading |
| 20:40 | nengard | cait that worked!!! |
| 20:40 | cait | phew |
| 20:40 | :) | |
| 20:40 | nengard | but only for the first one :( |
| 20:40 | maybe i put it in the wrong place | |
| 20:40 | trying other places | |
| 20:41 | cait | are you trying in firebug or in the pref? |
| 20:41 | i saw the same in firebug... but not sure why | |
| 20:41 | a similar line works to remove the availability line here | |
| 20:41 | nengard | in the pref |
| 20:41 | cait | and it works for all of them |
| 20:42 | nengard | k - let me move it around |
| 20:43 | cait | hm did they change the xslt stylesheets? |
| 20:43 | nengard | yes, we do have a custom xslt on there |
| 20:43 | that could be it! | |
| 20:43 | cait | ah, some of it is a bit strnage |
| 20:43 | i am nto sure this makes any difference - but it should be a class not an id, because it's on the page for every entry | |
| 20:44 | so it's not unique | |
| 20:44 | but... not sure if that should make a difference | |
| 20:44 | talking about id="location" | |
| 20:45 | nengard | hmmm |
| 20:45 | well i see span id="location" on all of them | |
| 20:46 | cait | yeah - for super correct html it should be class="location" |
| 20:46 | nengard | oh |
| 20:46 | cait | because an id should be appear only once on a page |
| 20:46 | but i am realll ynot usre if that would make a difference | |
| 20:46 | nengard | but instead it's class="results_summary" |
| 20:46 | hmmm | |
| 20:46 | cait | you can have multiple classes |
| 20:46 | then you separate them with a space | |
| 20:46 | class="results_summary location" | |
| 20:47 | nengard | oh - like the ones above |
| 20:47 | hmmm .. is that cause of the custom css, or is it that way for everyone | |
| 20:47 | off to check my install | |
| 20:49 | okay that's how it is in the standard install | |
| 20:49 | so it's not the custom XSLT causing the problem | |
| 20:49 | I'm using 'default' | |
| 20:50 | cait | hm ok |
| 20:50 | another bug to fry for another day... i guess :) | |
| 20:50 | nengard | hehe |
| 20:50 | cait | trying different things, found nothing working yet |
| 20:54 | nengard: hm i don't understand why it doesn't work on all elements yet - apart from the id idea | |
| 20:54 | $("#results a:contains('[electronic resource]') ~ span.availability").show(); < this gets the availability back, on all of them | |
| 20:54 | nengard | hmmm |
| 20:55 | what is the ~ | |
| 20:55 | cait | we use it with hide - to make the availability go away |
| 20:55 | looking at the sibling elements | |
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| 20:57 | nengard | not sure .... |
| 20:57 | it has to be something small i'm missing | |
| 20:58 | cait | me too |
| 20:59 | hmmmm | |
| 20:59 | it's a bit weird looking | |
| 20:59 | but can you try this, nengard? | |
| 20:59 | $("#results a:contains('[electronic resource]') ~ span[id='location']").hide(); | |
| 20:59 | nengard | sure |
| 21:00 | that did it!! | |
| 21:00 | cait++ | |
| 21:02 | okay time for me to call it a day | |
| 21:02 | thank you so much cait | |
| 21:02 | @later tell oleonard cait helped me - pm me if you want to know the answer | |
| 21:02 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:02 | cait | glad we could figure it out :) |
| 21:29 | @later tell ashimema - the sandbox seems to have attached the wrong patch? | |
| 21:29 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:45 | wnickc | bye all |
| 22:04 | bag | @wunder 93102 |
| 22:04 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 30.1°C (3:04 PM PDT on August 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
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| 22:32 | tcohen | hi |
| 22:34 | bag | heya tcohen |
| 22:44 | tcohen | hi bag |
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| 23:41 | dcook | Yay! New memory card means more room for all the comics... |
| 23:41 | O_o | |
| 23:44 | eythian | ... |
| 23:44 | dcook | I think bag is having an identity crisis. |
| 23:44 | bag | yuppers |
| 23:44 | having fun with the @laters | |
| 23:45 | :) | |
| 23:45 | dcook | Hmm, I never thought of that.. |
| 23:46 | eythian | you can look them up |
| 23:46 | somehow | |
| 23:46 | I forget how | |
| 23:47 | @later eythian | |
| 23:47 | huginn | eythian: downloading the Perl source |
| 23:47 | eythian | @later show eythian |
| 23:47 | huginn | eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 23:47 | eythian | @later help |
| 23:47 | huginn | eythian: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 23:47 | eythian | @help |
| 23:47 | huginn | eythian: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 23:47 | eythian | @help later |
| 23:47 | huginn | eythian: Error: There is no command "later". |
| 23:47 | eythian | huginn: yes there is |
| 23:47 | huginn | eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 23:47 | eythian | @help @later |
| 23:47 | huginn | eythian: Error: There is no command "@later". |
| 23:47 | eythian | @help later tell |
| 23:47 | bag | @notes |
| 23:47 | huginn | eythian: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. |
| 23:47 | bag: I currently have notes waiting for #koha, ashimema, ashimema-, ashimema:, ashimena, bag:, bgkriegel:, bgrkiegel, Brooke:, cait,, cait., cait:, ccurry, chris_c, chris_n,, chris_n:, christ, cindy, cjh, could, Culiforg:, dcook,, dpavlin:, drofj, drojf:, druthb_away, druthb_away:, eythian:, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hackfesters, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, http://www.ub.uni-dortmund.de/[…]bib/msg48204.html, jcamins:, (2 more messages) | |
| 23:48 | bag | @notes bag: |
| 23:48 | huginn | bag: Sent 22 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, and 49 minutes ago: <magnuse> HI |
| 23:48 | bag | notes is the key :D |
| 23:48 | eythian | that's the one |
| 23:48 | @notes eythian: | |
| 23:48 | huginn | eythian: Sent 3 years, 18 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, and 17 minutes ago: <cait> forget everything before and answer that question: Is there a bug for the accounting rewrite to which I can link bugs as 2696 Fine payments should show whatwas paid for, Sent 1 year, 31 weeks, 1 day, 3 hours, and 26 minutes ago: <magnuse> kia ora! any news on the funding for the images from multiple sources thing? just curious... :-), (3 more messages) |
| 23:48 | eythian | @more |
| 23:48 | huginn | eythian: Sent 1 year, 23 weeks, 0 days, 13 hours, and 2 minutes ago: <magnuse> do you happen to have any opinions on Bug 9749?, Sent 1 year, 22 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <magnuse> if you should happen to feel like fixing bug 9890 i'll sign off in ~15 hours :-), Sent 1 year, 20 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, and 10 minutes ago: <magnuse> i did not report a bug for the version in build-git-snapshot, i (2 more messages) |
| 23:48 | eythian | @more |
| 23:48 | huginn | eythian: just added it as a comment on some other bug, Sent 1 year, 20 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, and 4 minutes ago: <magnuse> my original comment was on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9918, Sent 1 year, 18 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <tcohen> take a look at bug 10084, and Sent 1 year, 17 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, and 58 minutes ago: <tcohen> we could do smth like for lang (1 more message) |
| 23:48 | eythian | @more |
| 23:48 | huginn | eythian: in $(koha-translate --list) ; do koha-translate --update $lang ; done during the packages update |
| 23:50 | eythian | @notes hackfesters |
| 23:50 | huginn | eythian: Sent 1 year, 22 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, and 6 minutes ago: <oleonard> See to it that the follow-ups on bug 9883 are signed off and QAed before the end of the day! |
| 23:55 | dcook | Hmm |
| 23:55 | @notes dcook | |
| 23:55 | huginn | dcook: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
| 23:55 | dcook | @notes dcookm |
| 23:55 | huginn | dcook: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
| 23:55 | dcook | @notes dcook, |
| 23:55 | huginn | dcook: Sent 51 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, and 19 minutes ago: <tcohen> please share your merge. it looks like the ajax call is not given a json content-type |
| 23:55 | dcook | Hmm, no idea what that's about |
| 23:56 | @notes | |
| 23:56 | huginn | dcook: I currently have notes waiting for #koha, ashimema, ashimema-, ashimema:, ashimena, bag:, bgkriegel:, bgrkiegel, Brooke:, cait,, cait., cait:, ccurry, chris_c, chris_n,, chris_n:, christ, cindy, cjh, could, Culiforg:, dcook,, dpavlin:, drofj, drojf:, druthb_away, druthb_away:, eythian:, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hackfesters, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, http://www.ub.uni-dortmund.de/[…]bib/msg48204.html, jcamins:, (2 more messages) |
| 23:56 | dcook | @notes dcook, |
| 23:56 | huginn | dcook: Sent 51 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, and 20 minutes ago: <tcohen> please share your merge. it looks like the ajax call is not given a json content-type |
| 23:56 | dcook | @more |
| 23:56 | huginn | dcook: juan-siera, kf,, khall:, khall_away, km_kale, kmkale:, kyleh, LadyNight32, magnus, magnus_waffles, manguse, mario, matts_away, member:libsysguy, mrenvoize, mtj:, mtompset, mtompset:, mtompsett,, NCAR, nenegard, nengard:, nicole, Oak:, oleonard, oleonard:, oloenard, owen:, paul_p,, paul_p:, rangi:, santy,, Schuster:, sekjal:, seneca:, sjeffrey, slef:, tchoen, tcohen:, thd-away, Viktor:, whoever, wizzrea, (1 more message) |
| 23:56 | bag | yeah someone needs to clear out the old notes soon |
| 23:56 | dcook | @notes dcook: |
| 23:56 | bag | @notes whoever |
| 23:56 | huginn | dcook: Error: I have no notes for that nick. |
| 23:56 | bag: Sent 2 years, 51 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, and 24 minutes ago: <wizzyrea> what you want to tell them | |
| 23:56 | eythian | it shouldn't allow leaving notes for people who have never been seen before. |
| 23:57 | bag | @seen whoever |
| 23:57 | huginn | bag: I have not seen whoever. |
| 23:57 | bag | @notes LadyNight32 |
| 23:57 | huginn | bag: Sent 4 years, 40 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, and 53 minutes ago: <pianohacker> Mi mamá es de cuba, y hablo un poco de español. A veces estoy en el canal(?), y le podría ayudar. |
| 23:57 | bag | wow pianohacker is that man of mystery |
| 23:58 | talking to LadyNight32 :) | |
| 23:58 | dcook | Hmm, I got the first sentence then I was lost |
| 23:59 | bag | alright time for me to go home and have some dinner |
| 23:59 | dcook | Mmm dinner |
| 23:59 | That reminds me that I should start my daily routine of eating all day almost constantly | |
| 23:59 | night bag :) |
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