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| 00:01 | barton_away joined #koha | |
| 01:17 | eythian | so much chicken in that burger-like thing |
| 01:18 | dcook | burger-like? |
| 01:19 | eythian | > Two fried chicken thighs with smoked provolone, crisp onions, cos lettuce and Duke’s sambal, with fries |
| 01:19 | so instead of buns, it had chicken | |
| 01:21 | dcook | Interesting |
| 01:21 | wahanui | Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 01:22 | dcook | Seems like it would be difficult to eat/ |
| 01:22 | ? | |
| 01:22 | (yet tasty) | |
| 01:23 | eythian | I cheated and used cutlery |
| 01:24 | dac joined #koha | |
| 01:46 | rangi | https://twitter.com/PeopleofNZ[…]01867479883202560 |
| 01:49 | ibeardslee | I remember a story of someone talking to someone on the phone at a cafe with Helen Clarke (the then PM) at a nearby table. They weren't believed so the passed the phone to Helen to tall them. |
| 01:49 | tell them | |
| 01:49 | John Key just kicks people out of the cafe when he shares a cup of tea. | |
| 01:49 | rangi | heh |
| 02:50 | dac | marc? |
| 02:50 | wahanui | The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. |
| 02:50 | dac | marc history? |
| 02:50 | wahanui | marc history is probably http://www.loc.gov/marc/status.html |
| 02:56 | vinz3g joined #koha | |
| 02:56 | vinz3g | hi, goodnight |
| 02:57 | is possible to translate the context of cataloging koha | |
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| 02:59 | vinz3g | hello |
| 02:59 | wahanui | kia ora, vinz3g |
| 03:01 | vinz3g | is possible to translate the framework of cataloging koha |
| 03:02 | wizzyrea | I'm not sure which part you mean |
| 03:02 | it is possible, as far as I know, but it is not in the usual translation workflow. | |
| 03:07 | vinz3g | ok, if you agree, I did not found it in the translation files, which refers to the names of labels is no translation |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | right, you will not find that in the translation files |
| 03:10 | eythian | there are specificly translated SQL files, I think. |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | wr 229142 - any thoughts there? |
| 03:12 | er | |
| 03:12 | ww | |
| 03:15 | vinz3g | someone there will be translated into Spanish? |
| 03:16 | eythian | if someone translates it, yes. |
| 03:21 | vinz3g | good! |
| 03:21 | eythian | this assumes that someone is going to translate it however |
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| 03:28 | vinz3g | hi, koha-kobli was traslated sql file |
| 03:28 | s | |
| 03:29 | eythian | ah yep. You should talk them into upstreaming it. |
| 03:29 | (assuming they haven't already) | |
| 03:33 | vinz3g | Thank you. Thank you for your help |
| 04:43 | dac | Interesting... looks like someone's computer is in the future |
| 04:43 | We already have an author of the month for November 2014 ;) | |
| 04:43 | * eythian | wonders what the best process is for loading a large chunk of SQL is in updatedatabase. |
| 04:43 | eythian | I might have to load the .sql file |
| 04:43 | heh | |
| 04:45 | dac | Hmm, I seem to recall bgkriegel saying something about problems with loading SQL files using updatedatabase (or some other installer script) |
| 04:45 | eythian | there's not really another option, as they'll need to be kept in sync |
| 04:45 | dac | Ahh, my bad. I think it was something else? |
| 04:45 | eythian | well, it might be |
| 04:45 | but I need to make it work somehow :) | |
| 04:46 | I don't want to copy-paste 150 lines of SQL into updatedatabase and keep it up to date | |
| 04:46 | dac | Hmm, pastebot seems to be on the fritz... |
| 04:46 | "There's another thing to take into account: when MySQL 5.6 arrives to new debian/ubuntu versions, we'll have a problem. 5.6 client complains a lot to be used on CLI with password as argument, so Koha installer fails miserably because it uses 'mysql' command to load mandatory/optional values in database. | |
| 04:46 | Another reason to find other way." | |
| 04:47 | eythian | yep |
| 04:47 | the package tools will get bit by that too | |
| 04:47 | I have a plan to fix that | |
| 04:47 | it's not very elegant, but it'll work. | |
| 04:47 | dac | :D |
| 04:48 | eythian | (creating mysql .cnf files in /tmp that contain the password |
| 04:48 | ) | |
| 04:49 | * dac | shrugs |
| 04:49 | dac | I'll trust you :) |
| 04:49 | eythian | you better, it's the only option I can think of :) |
| 04:49 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:50 | eythian | it is nicer and safer than including them on the command line though. |
| 04:53 | * dcook | thumbs up |
| 04:58 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 04:58 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (4:30 PM NZST on August 20, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
| 04:58 | eythian | ick |
| 04:59 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 04:59 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (2:30 PM EST on August 20, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:59 | * dcook | peeks out the window |
| 04:59 | dcook | Looks about accurate |
| 05:01 | eythian | ah, I've found a bit of code that does what I need. Excellent. |
| 05:10 | dcook | Nice one! |
| 05:10 | * dcook | needs food |
| 05:10 | dcook | Where does the day go... |
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| 06:33 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 06:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:33 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
| 07:01 | yohann joined #koha | |
| 07:24 | magnuse joined #koha | |
| 07:24 | magnuse | *drumroll* |
| 07:25 | kia ora #koha! | |
| 07:25 | dcook | heya magnuse :) |
| 07:26 | magnuse | hiya dcook |
| 07:31 | * magnuse | hopes life is treating dcook better these days |
| 07:32 | dcook | Thanks, magnuse :). It certainly is better. Each day is better than the last. This week has a few more chores, and then it should be onto more fun things :). |
| 07:33 | magnuse | yay! :-) |
| 07:51 | dcook | :) |
| 07:52 | I'm off for the night though. Be back tomorrow. Have a good day, magnuse and other folks :) | |
| 08:00 | mtj | hey #koha, has anyone else bumped into the confusing 'dontmerge' syspref ? |
| 08:06 | cait joined #koha | |
| 08:06 | * cait | waves |
| 08:08 | mtj | hey cait |
| 08:08 | * magnuse | waves to cait and mtj |
| 08:09 | mtj | system preference set to 'Do' the next time the merge_authority.pl cronjob .... |
| 08:09 | ashimema | pianohacker++ # koha::services |
| 08:09 | mtj | ..should be 'Dont', not 'Do'? ^^ |
| 08:10 | ashimema | looks like allot went on last night :) |
| 08:10 | morning all | |
| 08:10 | magnuse | hiya ashimema |
| 08:10 | mtj | hiya ashimema, magnuse |
| 08:10 | ashimema | @later tell pianohacker been reading the rancor bug again recently.. why the need for jsonp? |
| 08:10 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:11 | cait | hey magnuse :) |
| 08:11 | and mtj and ashimema :) | |
| 08:12 | ashimema: hm? | |
| 08:12 | * magnuse | wonders about the fate of bug 11944 |
| 08:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 08:12 | ashimema | cait.. what? |
| 08:12 | wahanui | cait is going to add: gmcharlt: +1 |
| 08:12 | cait | lots going on |
| 08:12 | :) | |
| 08:13 | forget cait.. | |
| 08:13 | wahanui | cait: I forgot cait |
| 08:13 | cait | oups |
| 08:13 | cait? | |
| 08:13 | :( | |
| 08:13 | i gave wahanui memory loss and now he doesn't know who I am *sob* | |
| 08:13 | ashimema | lots of chat fixing that facets bug.. lots of chatter around services api, lots of chatter around mysql cli.. all intesting stuff last night.. |
| 08:13 | wish i'de been about ;) | |
| 08:13 | oops cait? | |
| 08:14 | cait.. what? | |
| 08:14 | magnuse | was that a dev meeting or just general chatter? |
| 08:14 | ashimema | just general chatter I think. |
| 08:14 | magnuse | kewl |
| 08:14 | ashimema | prompted by a list post.. |
| 08:14 | and then the right epople turning up here to chat it out ;) | |
| 08:14 | looked interesting though | |
| 08:14 | sounds like pianohacker has been playing with api's for a school project.. | |
| 08:15 | cait | ashimema: you need to stop sleeping :P |
| 08:15 | ashimema | anyone else know why rancor needs jsonp api's? |
| 08:15 | lol.. sleep is for wimps aye cait | |
| 08:16 | my understanding is that jsonp is basically to enable cross domain ajax requests.. but sureley we're not doing cross domain for the catalogue editor | |
| 08:18 | Joubu.. if you want to rebase your date on overdues bug, I'll happily test.. I tend to concentrate on stuff in the qa queue at the minute.. hense my seeing chris's bug affecting similar code first.. I took a look at your bug though and thought ti looked simpler to refactor than the other way around. | |
| 08:19 | Joubu | ashimema: I had a look yesterday and it does not seem easy to rebase it :-/ |
| 08:19 | ashimema | But first.. I'm just about done reviewing the testbuilder code.. I have a feeling it's not gonna get a huge amount of uptake.. but I can't see any real reason to fail it. |
| 08:19 | oh.. really? | |
| 08:20 | I obviosly didn't look at it in enough depth then | |
| 08:20 | Joubu | ashimema: Actually I didn't plan to rebase it. It was waiting a SO for 1 year, I raise an alert on the bug report letting a comment. |
| 08:20 | IMO the ft should not be pushed before the bug fix. | |
| 08:21 | cait | nah, don't listen tome |
| 08:21 | i am just silly on a train again | |
| 08:21 | i will be kicked out soon for a few minutes - lots of tunnels | |
| 08:21 | will be back after | |
| 08:21 | the stop sleeping comment wasn't to be taken serious | |
| 08:21 | Joubu | I don't have time at the moment to rebase old stuff, sorry |
| 08:21 | cait | i am on a train, so the internet connection will be bad again |
| 08:21 | ashimema | ok. |
| 08:21 | I;m not really sure how to fix the issue of overlapping bugs in general though.. | |
| 08:22 | splitter really helps if people use it.. | |
| 08:22 | Joubu | ashimema: but it's a real lack. As I explained in my comment, it's the only (simple) way to launch overdues with a date != today |
| 08:22 | ashimema | but even then.. you never really know when a bug has been abandoned.. |
| 08:22 | yeah.. it would be a fine bug to fix. | |
| 08:22 | maybe I'll take a look at rebasing it myself if I get a moment. | |
| 08:22 | cait | hopefully not |
| 08:22 | Joubu | ashimema: I don't abandon bugs :) I just haven't the time at the moment |
| 08:23 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:23 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.9°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:23 | ashimema | I also want to see bug 6427 moving again too.. but it's massive and scary |
| 08:23 | Joubu | ashimema: tcohen told me he will try to have a look too. |
| 08:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Rewrite of the accounts system |
| 08:25 | ashimema | We can't expect people to fix long standing bugs before doing work they've been paid to do though.. which is more the bugger.. I admit, in this case I wish Chris had spotted the conflict and signed your bug off first.. |
| 08:25 | I just don't know the answer. | |
| 08:25 | cait | i had hoped that we could concentrate on it after we are done with the utf-8 fixes |
| 08:25 | magnuse | is there a plan for bug 11944 now? |
| 08:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 08:25 | ashimema | anywho.. was nothing personal.. the other bug just hit my vision first :( |
| 08:25 | Joubu | ashimema: maybe I should increase the severity of my bugfix, because it's a major one (even if the date option never worked...) |
| 08:26 | ashimema | yeah.. it is pretty severe |
| 08:26 | that would certianly help.. | |
| 08:26 | Joubu | magnuse: yes, you have been selected to SO it! Congratulations! |
| 08:27 | ashimema | actually maybe we should put some rules around that.. using severity as an indicator to QA for when such occurrences happen. |
| 08:27 | Joubu | I should have increased* |
| 08:27 | ashimema | randon question.. does your splitter app have an API? |
| 08:27 | magnuse | Joubu: thanks! ;-) |
| 08:27 | cait | but it seems that those take a lot longer than i had hoped they would :( |
| 08:27 | for various reasons, just things take generally longer than expected | |
| 08:27 | ashimema | almost wonder if we could add a check for conflicts in the qa script.. it's stupidly easy to miss them |
| 08:27 | Joubu | ashimema: what do you want to do with it? |
| 08:28 | magnuse | the last thing i remember, there was a plan to have a bug squash day for the utf-8 stuff, and i think there was one? so what happens now? |
| 08:29 | Joubu | ashimema: there is a rest api, yes |
| 08:29 | ashimema | I'm thinking of doing a file based check for conflicting bugs from the command line as part of the qa process |
| 08:29 | cait | I can test the date overdue bug too - helping with ashimema to get it in |
| 08:29 | i know we labelled the other as a ft, but actually it's something that's been pretty awful for us a long time - every single of our libraires using fines complained about it | |
| 08:29 | so at least for those libraries it's a bug fix too | |
| 08:29 | i hadn't seen the other bug - if I had known ealrier maybe we could have figured out something | |
| 08:29 | ashimema | highlighting to QA that maybe the bug your QAing should have been based atop another more important one? |
| 08:29 | cait | Joubu: i saw paola left some notes on the wiki - are those bugs that need to be fixed still? |
| 08:30 | Joubu | ashimema: I let a note, I though it was enough. It could be great to highlight some important comment on a bug report. |
| 08:31 | thought* | |
| 08:31 | cait: I didn't see them | |
| 08:32 | ashimema | I used the comment to go look at the bug.. and wrongly from what your saying, thought it would be easier to rebase in that direction as apposed to the other. |
| 08:32 | blame me in this case.. we'll get there in the end I hope. | |
| 08:32 | eythian | wahanui: cait is from germany. Ask \me about germany. |
| 08:32 | wahanui | ...but cait is just silly on a train again... |
| 08:32 | Joubu | IMO, the only way to go further with bug 11944 is to push all patches into master and fix remaining bugs when we will find them. |
| 08:32 | eythian | wahanui: cait is also from germany. Ask \me about germany. |
| 08:32 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 08:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 08:33 | Joubu | Because for now, we introduce new regressions in master, and we will have to fix it later. |
| 08:33 | (yes I know nobody agrees) | |
| 08:34 | magnuse: to answer you, I think we are waiting someone to write UT. | |
| 08:35 | ashimema | Will buy you a pint when in liverpool in october if your about Joubu |
| 08:36 | Joubu | ashimema: In october I will be in Argentina :) |
| 08:36 | cait | Joubu: i think if there are no known bugs in opac |
| 08:36 | i could agree | |
| 08:36 | i don't care so much if things show up in staff, but everything visible to the user we know about i'd like to see fixed | |
| 08:37 | ashimema | of course.. silly me |
| 08:38 | Joubu | cait: Zeno and Paola did an amazing job, they tested ~80% of Koha. They found bugs on master too. |
| 08:38 | ashimema | that's impressive |
| 08:39 | cait | yep |
| 08:39 | it's good to have Paola testing | |
| 08:40 | Joubu: about the overdues when patron has no email - the mtt broke an existing feature | |
| 08:40 | we already had a feature to automatically send an email to the library - that is no longer working | |
| 08:40 | we need to fix that with a high priority | |
| 08:41 | bug 12717 | |
| 08:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12717 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address |
| 08:41 | cait | i want to comment on the bug, but internet on the train is really... annoying |
| 08:41 | magnuse | Joubu: i agree with you. noone will evr be able to signoff on testing everything. the only option i can see is to push what we have as soon as possible and fix things if and when they turn up |
| 08:42 | rangi | i agree with cait |
| 08:42 | the opac is small | |
| 08:42 | 30ish pages | |
| 08:42 | we should be able to test all of that, and fix that before putting it in master, any staff issues can be fixed after pushing | |
| 08:42 | Joubu | There are no known bugs. The only known bugs is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]opment#Known_bugs |
| 08:43 | the 4 first points. The others is fixed or not relevant | |
| 08:43 | are*! | |
| 08:43 | magnuse | (and kia ora rangi and eythian!) |
| 08:46 | cait | Joubu: maybe update the wki page? |
| 08:47 | Joubu | it's updated, there are notes |
| 08:48 | cait | magnuse: are you back now? :) |
| 08:48 | magnuse | cait: yeah, more or less |
| 08:48 | tomorrow will be the first full day | |
| 08:49 | * magnuse | wonders off for a moment |
| 08:50 | cait | Joubu: I think we need to restore the option to send a text summary of the print notices to the library for patrons without email only - i am not sure how |
| 08:51 | Joubu | cait: did you see my comment on that (don't remember the bug number)? |
| 08:52 | cait: it could be done using the gather_print_notices (with new patches already submit), but no really sure... | |
| 08:53 | cait: Do you know why aqorders_items.itemnumber does not have a FK to items.itemnumber? | |
| 08:57 | cait | i saw a commen tlast night - i just wanted to add it's not something new - it's a regression and libraries might not even notice it for a while :( |
| 08:57 | assuming not getting an email means there have been no notices for patrons without email | |
| 08:57 | and htat's bad | |
| 08:57 | because they have never used the other cronjob | |
| 08:57 | Joubu: not sure about that, it does seem to make sense to add one | |
| 08:57 | Joubu: i think you can't do text with your new patches? | |
| 08:57 | but i am still not sure how to alert libraries of the change | |
| 08:57 | and that they need to setup a new tool | |
| 08:58 | having a print entry for each patron is actually nice - i am worried about the change it means and that we didn't notice it | |
| 08:58 | Joubu | cait: "can't do text"? |
| 08:59 | cait | a plain text attachement like it used to - can you give me the bug number of your patch again? |
| 09:00 | Joubu | cait: I am not sure it's a good idea to reintroduce this behavior into the overdue_notices script. IMO gather_print_notices should do the job. |
| 09:00 | But I agree, the change has not been reported somewhere. | |
| 09:01 | bug 11603 and bug 11678 | |
| 09:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export |
| 09:01 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Gather print notices: send files by email | |
| 09:01 | cait | Joubu: i tend to agree - but then we should remove the email code from the script too... after restoring the feature |
| 09:01 | and it still has a lot of code to create files | |
| 09:01 | Joubu | you will be able to do something like : gather_print_notices.pl --email=eex.org --letter_code=ODUE |
| 09:02 | cait: overdue_notices can sent an email if you call it without --no-email | |
| 09:02 | with! | |
| 09:03 | cait | yes, but it#s not quite right |
| 09:03 | see the bug i posted earlier - it sends an email with data for ALL oerdues | |
| 09:03 | without setting any parameter it just sent you the ones for patrons without email before | |
| 09:03 | as a text attachement in a mail to the library - not pretty | |
| 09:03 | but a lot of libraries are using that | |
| 09:04 | bug 12717 | |
| 09:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12717 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library no longer receiving Overdue email for patrons without email address |
| 09:04 | cait | so maybe we do need to reintroduce |
| 09:04 | and then phase it out | |
| 09:04 | properly | |
| 09:05 | Joubu | but we can't sent to the library AND put it in the message_queue |
| 09:08 | actually, the current code only generate the csv if --no-email is given | |
| 09:10 | cait | Joubu: why not? |
| 09:11 | Joubu | Because this script is a mess :) |
| 09:11 | cait | Joubu: it was a text attachement with th emessage texts not csv |
| 09:11 | if you switch back to the commit before mtt - you can see the behaviour, even with the current table structure | |
| 09:11 | i noted the commit on the bug | |
| 09:11 | it is | |
| 09:12 | Joubu | and because I suppose that the print message in the queue could be use later |
| 09:12 | cait | a mess |
| 09:12 | Joubu | supposed* |
| 09:13 | cait: I understand perfectly the issue and it can be critical for some libraries. But I need a good idea to fix the workflow | |
| 09:13 | cait | I am not sure how to fix it, but i think we need to figure something out |
| 09:13 | yeah i think we can agree on that then | |
| 09:13 | Joubu | If the message exist in the message_queue with the mtt print, I don't think we need it sent too |
| 09:14 | cait | we need to notify the library and give them a means to notify the patrons |
| 09:14 | i am not against the gather print script - but i am not sure how to fit it in and how to tell libraries they need to switch | |
| 09:15 | Joubu | (remember: I rebased these patches for 2 years...) |
| 09:15 | cait | and also... we use up to 6 different overdue letters |
| 09:15 | we need an option to send them all in one email | |
| 09:15 | Joubu | that what does the gather_print_notices :-/ |
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| 09:16 | Joubu | it's why I add the csv and ods option and the --email |
| 09:16 | cait | does your change take more than one letter code? |
| 09:16 | Joubu | no |
| 09:16 | because it's not relevant | |
| 09:17 | Actually I am confuse. I will try to have a look in the afternoon | |
| 09:17 | cait | the old behaviour was: send an email with a plain text attachement with all the notices texts that couldn#t be send by email to the library |
| 09:17 | Joubu | (the csv and ods option are for something else...) |
| 09:17 | cait | i think we need to get as close to that as possible again |
| 09:25 | ok | |
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| 10:28 | ashimema | Joubu.. I've added a few comment to TestBuilder. would be interested to see Yohann's thoughts.. he's still about for the next couple of days right? |
| 10:30 | Joubu | ashimema: great, thanks! Yes, his trainee ends on Friday |
| 10:31 | ashimema | sorry it's taken me a while to get to.. I've been mulling it over for a fiar chunk of time.. |
| 10:31 | I'm getting mroe and mroe keen to stick it in.. but I wan't to make sure it's got a decent chance of being utilised | |
| 10:36 | Joubu | ashimema: The lack of pod is my fault. I told yohann it is better to provide examples than a lot of words to explain why it's useful. |
| 10:36 | ashimema | There's half reasonable POD in there actually.. only a couple of translation issues I think really.. |
| 10:37 | it's more things like adding it's use to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Unit_Tests | |
| 10:37 | for example.. to encourage adoption ;) | |
| 10:39 | and a more wordy description of 'why' is makes a developers life easier/why they should start using it to write new tests. | |
| 10:40 | That's whats taken time for me to get my head around.. I want others to get their heads around it faster so that they make the effort to learn how to use it. | |
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| 10:40 | ashimema | :) |
| 10:40 | rangi | it feels to me like sqlhelper all over again, building our own bespoke abstraction layers that come back to annoy us all |
| 10:41 | ashimema | oh.. rangi :).. That's the sort of opinion I was hoping to catch you for yesterday. |
| 10:42 | I can see it's merits.. but yeah.. I'm still on the knife edge in terms of whether I think it's a good abstraction or not... if it lead to one test running as db dependant and independent.. then I'd see allot more merit. ;) | |
| 10:47 | Joubu | ashimema: Since it's based on the DB structure, I don't understand why you want it to manage db independent tests. |
| 10:48 | rangi: Do you know an abstraction layer we could use to build data for UT? | |
| 10:51 | rangi | we could use Test::DBIx::Class::Factory |
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| 10:59 | * rangi | has to go to sleep, gotta teach people jenkins tomorrow |
| 11:04 | magnuse | Joubu: have you looked at Test::DBIx::Class? |
| 11:04 | https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::DBIx::Class | |
| 11:06 | Joubu | magnuse: yes, a bit, but I wasn't aware of Test::DBIx::Class::Factory |
| 11:09 | * magnuse | neither |
| 11:09 | ashimema | nor me.. |
| 11:09 | sounds like just the ticket though in a very brief look.. | |
| 11:10 | anyone happen to be aware of any bugs with our modal dialogue and safari recently? | |
| 11:11 | I've just had a customer report that on their mac machines (a macbook air, and an ipad) they can't login to the opac in bootstrap becasue the modal doesn't open. | |
| 11:11 | I've never seen it before? | |
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| 11:53 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:54 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 11:54 | magnuse | kia ora oleonard |
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| 11:56 | cait | oleonard: vacation? :) |
| 11:57 | oleonard | Taking care of the kids during the transition between summer day care and the first week of school |
| 11:59 | cait | :) |
| 12:00 | oleonard | My youngest starts kindergarten Friday. No more preschool for us! |
| 12:02 | cait | :) |
| 12:03 | khall | looks like cait beat me to the qa punch on 12781 ; ) |
| 12:04 | cait | bug 12781 |
| 12:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12781 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , DBIx::Class schema should preserve case for column names |
| 12:05 | cait | ah, hope it was ok |
| 12:05 | i prompty fell asleep after that tho - sleepy cait on a train today | |
| 12:06 | i am working on the follow up now - 12784 | |
| 12:08 | khall: still around? | |
| 12:08 | khall | yo |
| 12:08 | np! | |
| 12:09 | cait | i wonder |
| 12:09 | could you maybe take a look? | |
| 12:10 | 12784 and 12371 | |
| 12:10 | wahanui | 25155 |
| 12:11 | cait | not quite that many bugs yet wahanui |
| 12:12 | khall: bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12371#c7 < is a comment from nick about your patch, but couldn't make sense of it | |
| 12:12 | khall | I'll take a look |
| 12:13 | cait | thx |
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| 12:15 | khall | cait: nick may be correct, but he's trying to solve the problem at the wrong level. |
| 12:15 | if we do it the way he suggests it could easily introduce regressions at a later date | |
| 12:16 | cait | could you try and clear things up a bit so we can get that bug moving? :) |
| 12:16 | khall | k |
| 12:18 | cait: Chris signed it, so you can qa it | |
| 12:19 | cait | that's ok, but i didn't want to ignore nick's comment |
| 12:20 | khall | I understand. I've added a reply to his comment |
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| 12:27 | tcohen | morning! |
| 12:27 | wahanui | it has been said that morning is a state of cat |
| 12:28 | oleonard | Open of share file /tmp/sharefile-koha-koha failed: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/Cache/FastMmap.pm line 640. |
| 12:28 | cait | coudl you check how your patch goes together with yohann's? |
| 12:28 | he also adds some line about the verification token | |
| 12:29 | khall: talking about bug 1274 | |
| 12:29 | hm bug 12784 that is | |
| 12:29 | morning tcohen | |
| 12:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1274 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED FIXED, problem in UNIMARC Editor, when adding a subfield |
| 12:29 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12784 critical, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Signed Off , A patron cannot change his personal details | |
| 12:30 | khall | cait: those should dovetail together just fine |
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| 12:32 | cait1 | qa from a train isn't easy... khall - it seems with yohann's patch one modification request overwrites the other - i am a bit worried by that |
| 12:32 | so for a borrower there is always only one line in the table | |
| 12:33 | khall | that's actually how it's intended to work, even if it didn't previously. |
| 12:33 | cait1 | hm ok |
| 12:33 | i will put a note in the comment | |
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| 12:35 | bgkriegel | buen día |
| 12:36 | oleonard | Hi bgkriegel |
| 12:39 | * cait1 | waves |
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| 12:44 | oleonard | Anyone know if there are simple ways to get authority records from LOC or elsewhere besides though the web site? |
| 12:45 | cait1 | hm z39.50 an then export maybe= |
| 12:45 | ? | |
| 12:45 | oleonard: what are you trying to do ? :) | |
| 12:45 | oleonard | Uh... Get authorities? :) |
| 12:47 | cait1 | ok, i might be confused :) |
| 12:47 | did you see you can download them now via z39.50 in the authorities module? | |
| 12:47 | tcohen | hi cait bgkriegel oleonard |
| 12:48 | bgkriegel | hi cait oleonard tcohen and all |
| 12:49 | oleonard | cait1: No I didn't. Now I need some authority record sources I guess. |
| 12:50 | cait1 | oleonard: i think the sample file has loc |
| 12:50 | oleonard: not sure if there was a database update to add them, maybe check the sql files directly | |
| 12:51 | oleonard | "Q: Does the Library of Congress provide Z39.50 access to authority records? A: No." :P |
| 12:52 | jcamins | oleonard: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/lcserver.html |
| 12:52 | cait1 | hm |
| 12:52 | i could offer you access to our german gnd file for authorities :) | |
| 12:53 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f2562d062004d7fd | |
| 12:54 | oleonard | That should teach me never to read a FAQ: http://authorities.loc.gov/help/auth-faq.htm#5 |
| 12:54 | Thanks jcamins and cait1 | |
| 12:55 | cait1 | heh |
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| 13:05 | oleonard | The "New from Z39.50" button does nothing |
| 13:05 | cait1 | did you set up the server in the config? |
| 13:06 | it does nothing if no server as added | |
| 13:06 | and also there was a javascript error in one of the versions, which version are you on? | |
| 13:07 | oleonard | Now it's working. Firefox hiccup I guess. |
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| 13:29 | tcohen | bug 12788 |
| 13:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12788 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Refine search displays 4xx fields from authority records |
| 13:30 | cait1 | i think it would be cool if one of the libraries tested it |
| 13:30 | it should be totally doable on a sandbox, if you switch the pref before creating your authority and record | |
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| 13:31 | tcohen | cait1: agreed |
| 13:35 | cait1: it needs love, anyway | |
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| 13:43 | ashimema | cait1.. feel free to point one of them at the ptfs-euroep sandboxes.. they're all feeling lonely at the moment ;) |
| 13:43 | tcohen | hi ashimema |
| 13:43 | ashimema | though I have no idea if there are 400's and 100s in the db's as is.. |
| 13:44 | hi tcohen.. | |
| 13:46 | oleonard | cait1: I can't reproduce Bug 12783 |
| 13:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12783 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Tabbed view on acq basket group page broken |
| 13:46 | oleonard | cait1: Do you get a JS error? |
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| 13:48 | Joubu | works for me too |
| 14:03 | oleonard | rangi++ # nice blog post about Jim Minges |
| 14:03 | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]ha-29-jim-minges/ | |
| 14:04 | magnuse | hooray for the unsung heroes! |
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| 14:15 | cait1 | oleonard: yes |
| 14:15 | aout files not being found | |
| 14:16 | quite a few | |
| 14:16 | Joubu | cait1: which ones? |
| 14:16 | wahanui | which ones are those? |
| 14:17 | oleonard | wahanui: forget which ones |
| 14:17 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot which ones |
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| 14:20 | cait1 | really bad internet now - black forrest |
| 14:20 | trying | |
| 14:20 | oh | |
| 14:20 | i think i know | |
| 14:20 | my vendor is: katrin's bookshop | |
| 14:20 | wth apostrophe | |
| 14:20 | i didn't notice that when i filed the bug | |
| 14:20 | hm | |
| 14:20 | it happens for Books Books Books too :( | |
| 14:20 | yahoo is not defined | |
| 14:21 | oleonard | cait1: What is your yuipath system preference setting? |
| 14:23 | cait1: Actually it shouldn't matter, not on the tabbed page. | |
| 14:23 | There shouldn't be any YUI dependencies on that page. | |
| 14:23 | Oh I guess they're included even if you're not in the basket edit view | |
| 14:24 | The yuipath doesn't seem to matter in my test | |
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| 14:52 | cait | oleonard? |
| 14:52 | wahanui | oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 14:53 | oleonard | present |
| 14:53 | cait | oleonard, Joubu: http://paste.koha-community.org/165 |
| 14:53 | sorry, you just asked before we got into the mountains | |
| 14:53 | another hour on the train for me now :) then home | |
| 14:54 | barton | morning, #koha! |
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| 14:54 | barton | morning, rocio. |
| 14:55 | rocio | morning! |
| 14:55 | wahanui | well, morning is a state of the cait |
| 14:55 | barton | heh. |
| 14:56 | Joubu | cait: your yuipath is empty? |
| 14:56 | oleonard | cait: Looks like your yuipath system preference is missing, probably from testing Bug 12494 |
| 14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12494 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Remove yuipath system preference |
| 14:56 | cait | ooh |
| 14:56 | what should go in htere? | |
| 14:57 | barton | I'm trying to find out a bit about a change that was made to circ between 3.12 and 3.14 ... apparently, we removed the 'override all' option on checkout -- now, if a patron has items overdue, circ staff have to override every item. |
| 14:57 | cait | you are right, it's empty |
| 14:58 | barton | ... I'm trying to find out more about that change ... who, what, where, why .... |
| 14:59 | cait | barton: hm i am not sure if we changed that |
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| 15:00 | cait | barton: you tried both settings for OverduesBlockCirc? |
| 15:03 | oleonard, Joubu: you were right | |
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| 15:08 | barton | cait -- I'll have to check that syspref. |
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| 15:08 | barton | cait++ |
| 15:12 | tcohen | oleonard: have you bisected your permission problem regarding cache::fastmmap ? |
| 15:12 | oleonard | no |
| 15:12 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:13 | barton | cait -- the possible values for OverduesBlockCirc are 'Ask for confirmation', 'Block' and "Don't Block" ... The partner wants to ask for confirmation on the *first* checkin, but wants the option to override any following check outs for the same patron. |
| 15:13 | cait | i think we never could do hat |
| 15:13 | buti am not totally sure, it sounds unusual | |
| 15:13 | tcohen | @seen gmcharlt |
| 15:13 | oleonard | I don't think it works that way for any override |
| 15:13 | huginn | tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 19 hours, 11 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> but rangi's right, can ask |
| 15:14 | oleonard | barton: For instance, one must confirm each time to override checking out an item which exceeds item type limits |
| 15:15 | barton | hmmm. Someone in #bywater mentioned that there was an "Override all" button at one time. |
| 15:15 | oleonard | I don't think so |
| 15:17 | cait | hm don't remember something like that either |
| 15:17 | barton | Oh well, not the first time a partner led me down the primrose path; won't be the last. |
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| 15:37 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8503bd0e018cf7c05> / Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a0b8e0233420fe03a> / Bug 1561 - z39.50 results do not show search terms <http://git.koha-community.org/git |
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| 15:47 | datadoctor | Hi All! |
| 15:48 | oleonard | link_bibs_to_authorities.pl attempts to find authority records which match, for instance, subject headings in a bib record? Is that right? |
| 15:51 | jcamins? | |
| 15:51 | wahanui | well, jcamins is the best cookie-chef in #koha. |
| 15:52 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack cookie |
| 15:52 | wahanui | thanks druthb :) |
| 15:52 | jcamins | That is correct. |
| 15:53 | oleonard | Thanks jcamins |
| 16:00 | Joubu | tcohen: I added UT on bug 11244. |
| 16:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11244 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , notices ignoring the dateformat preference |
| 16:30 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:30 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 16:30 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_D7 build #133: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_D7/133/ |
| 16:30 | * Marc Veron: Bug 1561 - z39.50 results do not show search terms | |
| 16:30 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup | |
| 16:30 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error | |
| 16:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1561 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , z39.50 results do not show search terms |
| 16:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too | |
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| 16:38 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:38 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 16:38 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master_U12 build #138: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Master_U12/138/ |
| 16:38 | * Marc Veron: Bug 1561 - z39.50 results do not show search terms | |
| 16:38 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup | |
| 16:38 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error | |
| 16:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1561 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , z39.50 results do not show search terms |
| 16:38 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too | |
| 16:40 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
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| 16:47 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11244: (follow-up) Fix $dateonly flag <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]80c6a5a415cdd77a1> / Bug 11244: notices ignoring the dateformat preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ee9845c427947096> / Bug 11244: Add unit tests for GetPreparedLetter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]t;a=commitdiff;h= |
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| 17:34 | cait | also cool to see bugs with so low numbers fixed :) |
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| 19:19 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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| 20:14 | tcohen | hi there |
| 20:14 | wahanui | privet, tcohen |
| 20:17 | tcohen | rangi: can we change the dashboard? so the build status for master checks Koha_Master_U14? |
| 20:17 | *kidding | |
| 20:17 | I mean Koha_Master_D7 | |
| 20:44 | @later tell rangi please change the dashboard so the status for master is picked from Koha_Master_D7 on jenkins | |
| 20:44 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:47 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 20:47 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 34.6°C (5:45 PM ART on August 20, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:47 | * tcohen | misses cold weather |
| 20:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8539: Library transfer limits page has incorrect permission <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d127e6c5a19373075> / Bug 4162 - Followup: only count potential barcodes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0353f47a947648852> / Bug 4162 The inventory tool lacks validation for barcodes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
| 21:28 | * wizzyrea | wishes for warm weather |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:28 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on August 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | hm that's not terrible. |
| 21:28 | but it's windy. | |
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| 22:10 | eythian | hi |
| 22:10 | wahanui | bonjour, eythian |
| 22:16 | tcohen | hi eythian |
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| 23:46 | indradg | hi! |
| 23:46 | Readonly::XS 1.05 is installed on my Kubuntu 13.04 | |
| 23:47 | however, ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u is showing missing dep | |
| 23:49 | I see a thread here http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]4-May/039555.html | |
| 23:49 | how to resolve this? I'm trying to build off git |
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