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| 00:14 | dcook | bug 11349 |
| 00:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11349 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Patch doesn't apply , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove .tmpl -> .tt translation |
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| 01:51 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 01:51 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (1:30 PM NZST on July 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:51 | eythian | "Scattered Clouds" my butt |
| 02:07 | http://i.imgur.com/RPsqjUb.jpg <-- the future | |
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| 03:11 | dcook | Hmm, I don't think issues.issuingbranch is a thing anymore... |
| 03:11 | Unless I'm missing something, it seems to never be used | |
| 03:11 | Except I have data that says that it does... | |
| 03:11 | * dcook | wonders if that's from a third-party app... |
| 03:12 | dcook | Mmm, I'm thinking yes...not part of Koha.. |
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| 04:11 | eythian | http://youtu.be/w-0TEJMJOhk |
| 04:12 | make sure you watch past 1:30 | |
| 04:14 | * wizzyrea | flags that for later |
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| 04:43 | * dcook | takes a look at letter.pl and shudders |
| 04:44 | * cait | waves |
| 04:44 | dcook | heya cait, irma |
| 04:47 | eythian | hi cait |
| 04:47 | cait | hi eythian and dcook |
| 04:47 | eythian | there seems to only be one child left. |
| 04:55 | rangi | Francesca: <li class="current_page_item"></li> |
| 04:56 | * cait | waves at rangi too |
| 04:56 | rangi | hey cait |
| 05:29 | dcook | self: "Why isn't that email address updating!?" |
| 05:29 | dcook: "It's probably because you commented out that code." | |
| 05:30 | self: "Oh...yeah...that would do it..." | |
| 05:30 | eythian | man, I'm never that helpful to myself |
| 05:30 | dcook | We like working as a team :D |
| 05:32 | eythian: How is ElasticSearch going? | |
| 05:32 | eythian | temorarily on hold while I work on a migration |
| 05:33 | dcook | Same one as before or new one? |
| 05:33 | eythian | I'm not sure |
| 05:33 | * dcook | says with no real reference at all to "before" |
| 05:33 | eythian | they all blend into one |
| 05:33 | dcook | MARC is a bit traumatic |
| 05:33 | eythian | right now I'm working on a talk that I'm giving tomorrow |
| 05:33 | yeah, it is | |
| 05:33 | dcook | Sweet. What are you going to talk about? |
| 05:34 | eythian | how GPG and debian packaging interact |
| 05:34 | dry, but short :) | |
| 05:34 | but I need to do a lot of research to make sure I'm saying correct things | |
| 05:36 | dcook | Mmm, that's always handy |
| 05:36 | Truth is good | |
| 05:38 | eythian | discovered a few points where things work differently to what I thought |
| 05:41 | dcook | Ain't that always the way |
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| 06:33 | ashimema | Morning.. |
| 06:33 | wahanui | i heard morning was a state of the cait |
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| 06:39 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:47 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:55 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 06:56 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 06:56 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 06:56 | i saw you are working on sru again, that's nice | |
| 06:57 | marcelr | :) |
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| 07:01 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:01 | cait | bonjour alex_a |
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| 07:07 | petter | hello koha |
| 07:07 | cait | hi yohann and hi petter :) |
| 07:07 | yohann | hi cait |
| 07:07 | petter | hi cait! |
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| 07:22 | petter | Any Biblibre people here? |
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| 07:33 | cait | Joubu: ping? |
| 07:33 | wahanui | Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658 |
| 07:33 | Joubu | petter: yep |
| 07:34 | petter | So I was wondering about koha-restful |
| 07:34 | What are your plans? | |
| 07:34 | Will it be included in Koha? | |
| 07:35 | The reason I'm asking is because I though to add some functionality to the svc endpoint, but I think koha-restull is a much better basis to build on | |
| 07:36 | cait | not sure it counts... but i'd love to see the svc extended as we use it for ILL :) |
| 07:36 | petter | sure, but wouldnt it be better to ditch svc in favor for koha-restfull? |
| 07:37 | its much more complete and has a good organization | |
| 07:37 | which can easily be expanded | |
| 07:38 | cait | I haven't taken a look at it yet, so that's better questions for Joubu i think |
| 07:38 | my only worry is that it's separate from Koha righ tnow, so not sure how up to date and if it needs to get updated with changes made etc. | |
| 07:39 | petter | yes that's a valid concern off course |
| 07:39 | but unless svc it actually has test coverage :) | |
| 07:40 | Joubu | petter: we don't plan to include koha-resful in Koha |
| 07:40 | petter | ok, good to know |
| 07:40 | cait | not sure, could it move to the standard repo, contribs or the like maybe? |
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| 07:41 | Joubu | petter: there are some reasons: 1/ it's only tested on 3.10 and 3.12. 2/ There are not enought unit test to prove it will work for all futur versions |
| 07:41 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:41 | wahanui | hello, gaetan_B |
| 07:41 | Joubu | 3/ It is quite difficult to integrate stuff in master (delay, rebase, etc.) |
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| 07:41 | petter | sure |
| 07:42 | So how do you use koha-restfull? | |
| 07:42 | In cojunction with Drupal? | |
| 07:44 | Joubu | petter: with weeke, booke and others applications needing Koha's information. |
| 07:46 | petter | so you will likely continue to maintain it and update it? |
| 07:46 | Joubu | petter: if you have patches, you can sent them to someone at BibLibre, jajm will have a look |
| 07:47 | petter: yes, of course. We use it! | |
| 07:47 | petter | Great, good to know :) |
| 07:48 | I'm just evaluating it now, I haven't started doing anything yet | |
| 07:48 | Joubu | (s/booke/bokeh) |
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| 08:40 | cait | does someone know if it's possible that an item on the shelf goes directly into waiting status? |
| 08:41 | i thought we had a pref, but can't find it | |
| 08:45 | i think i foudn the one i was thining about | |
| 08:45 | Reseveneedsreturn | |
| 08:45 | s | |
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| 10:54 | marcelr | bug 6536 is ready for takeoff |
| 10:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Z3950 Search Enhancements: SRU targets and additional XSLT processing |
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| 11:00 | cait | marcelr++ |
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| 11:08 | cait | @quote get 123 |
| 11:08 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 11:08 | huginn | cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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| 12:52 | tcohen | mrning |
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| 13:05 | rhcl | It's morning |
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| 13:09 | nengard | hi all |
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| 13:15 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:18 | marcelr | hi oleonard |
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| 13:26 | tcohen | @seen dpavlin |
| 13:26 | huginn | tcohen: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 17 weeks, 2 days, 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <dpavlin> on current master, it seems that zebra search in opac dies with ZOOM error 20003 "can't set prefix query" - is there existing bug for that? |
| 13:26 | tcohen | hm |
| 13:29 | Joubu | oleonard: do you think you could find some time to test/so bug 10212? |
| 13:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Columns configuration for tables |
| 13:40 | Joubu | Does someone know why aqorders.budget_id is not linked (FK) to aqbudget.budget_id? |
| 13:40 | IMO it should | |
| 13:40 | (it's mandatory in the interface, on creating an order) | |
| 13:41 | but maybe it is archeological | |
| 13:43 | nengard | seems like an oversight ... |
| 13:44 | Joubu | nengard: but I have some "0" for aqorders.budget_id in my DB test |
| 13:44 | but not sure it's relevant, since I used it for testing | |
| 13:45 | I am going to check on a production machine | |
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| 14:06 | oleonard | Joubu: Yes |
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| 14:24 | tcohen | is it possible to make bugzilla show "Bug #: " instead of "Bug # - # ? |
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| 14:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11349: (qa follow-up) Fix pod <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dc02107aa28c7a543> / Bug 11349: Make the QA script happy <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b3f5cb34ce7633286> / Bug 11349: Remove unnecesary name translation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5fa4082e8bbe1a221 |
| 14:26 | tcohen | bye bye tmpl |
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| 14:47 | oleonard | There is a certain non-ascii character (or characters?) which, when found in an item record, causes the detail page to crash (Error 500) |
| 14:48 | http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]blionumber=152618 | |
| 14:48 | Has anyone run across this before? | |
| 14:49 | In my system I find it in itemcallnumber. It shows up as one of those weird character boxes. | |
| 14:49 | nengard | I saw it on a bib record |
| 14:49 | it was a / | |
| 14:49 | which isn't non-ascii .... | |
| 14:50 | wait it was a \ | |
| 14:50 | sorry ... so tired this week | |
| 14:51 | tcohen | oleonard: logs? |
| 14:51 | wahanui | rumour has it logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 14:52 | oleonard | tcohen: I'll see if I can reproduce it in my test system |
| 14:52 | tcohen | oleonard: it happened to us once, a library used '&' in the itemcallnumber |
| 14:52 | and it broke | |
| 14:52 | oleonard | Looks like it might be this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%1E |
| 14:53 | tcohen | don't see it |
| 14:54 | oleonard | If I try to manually edit an item record to add that character the add item process fails: :18: parser error : PCDATA invalid Char value 30 |
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| 14:55 | tcohen | so, two bugs |
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| 14:56 | * cait-m__ | waves from the airport |
| 14:59 | oleonard | Where are you going cait-m__ ? |
| 14:59 | cait-m__ | koha workshop with a library |
| 15:00 | answering questions mostly :) | |
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| 15:06 | tcohen | cait-m__: hi :-D how is it going? |
| 15:06 | cait-m__ | its tomorrow |
| 15:06 | travelling this afternoon | |
| 15:06 | tcohen | good luck |
| 15:07 | cait-m__ | thx :) |
| 15:09 | tcohen: arent you on vacation? | |
| 15:09 | tcohen | why? :-) |
| 15:10 | cait-m__ | bec you said so :) |
| 15:11 | tcohen | i am |
| 15:12 | cait-m__ | :) |
| 15:12 | * druthb | waves to cait-m__ |
| 15:12 | waves to tcohen, who shouldn't be here, too. | |
| 15:13 | tcohen | hi druthb |
| 15:14 | nengard | hiya druthb and all i missed |
| 15:14 | * druthb | waves to nengard, and goes back to writing unit tests. |
| 15:14 | liw | druthb++ (unit tests are almost as heart-warming as backups) |
| 15:15 | druthb | You know, writing unit tests is like hitting your hand with a hammer, over and over. It feels so very good to *stop*. |
| 15:15 | tcohen | we all love unit tests |
| 15:15 | (not writing them, but having them :-P) | |
| 15:15 | druthb | liw: You'd like it even more if I was writing unit tests for *Koha.* But I'm not. |
| 15:16 | liw | I like writing unit tests, but only if I'm writing them for a clean code base and for code that doesn't exist yet, or changes to be made; writing unit tests afterwards is like trying to drink the Empire State Building |
| 15:17 | tcohen | heh |
| 15:17 | cait-m__ | :) |
| 15:17 | druthb | s/Building/Building, through a skinny, skinny straw/; |
| 15:18 | cait-m__ | dont discourage devs plz :) |
| 15:18 | druthb | I'm writing unit tests on a 17-year-old codebase that was, in fact, originally developed by a 15-year-old. Who is now the 32-year old CEO of the company. Much pain and suffering. |
| 15:19 | liw | druthb: ah, you have a chaser of Iceland, I see |
| 15:20 | druthb | yep. |
| 15:20 | * jcamins | is writing unit tests, then writing code that will pass it. |
| 15:20 | jcamins | *them |
| 15:20 | It's glorious. | |
| 15:21 | Sure, the code doesn't do anything useful right now because all it does is pass unit tests, but there's a wonderful feeling of accomplishment as the red 'x's turn into green 'o's. | |
| 15:21 | tcohen | its awesome |
| 15:25 | cait-m__ | :) |
| 15:27 | boarding | |
| 15:28 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:36 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 15:47 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12592 - Minor correction for C4::DelBiblio documentation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4555f6a2f4e817587> |
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| 15:58 | tcohen | petter++ |
| 16:04 | jcamins | I think from now on I'll listen to quickstep music when writing unit tests. |
| 16:12 | tcohen | jcamins: good idea |
| 16:31 | Dyrcona | jcamins: At least you didn't write the tests so that they always pass, right? ;) |
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| 17:35 | jcamins | Dyrcona: darn, that was a missed opportunity for feeling good about myself! |
| 17:41 | Dyrcona | :) |
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| 17:50 | * cait-m__ | waves again |
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| 19:06 | oleonard | If a sub-language is chosen the menu doesn't indicate which translation is active. Should it? |
| 19:06 | http://www.screencast.com/t/0uWSrEapz3vf | |
| 19:07 | jcamins | oleonard: isn't that the bug you just closed? |
| 19:07 | oleonard | No, the bug I just closed was for a problem where it always said "en-GB" no matter which English sublanguage was chosen |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Oh, I see what you mean. |
| 19:09 | It took two minutes for the screenshot to load. | |
| 19:09 | I'd think it should. | |
| 19:11 | oleonard | I wonder how |
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| 20:50 | * cait | waves |
| 21:10 | cait | bag: around? |
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| 21:15 | wizzyrea | oleonard - we've seen crashy records with non-ascii characters as well |
| 21:15 | usually it comes from copy/pasting from word | |
| 21:16 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 21:17 | eternalsword | where should one look to debug z39.50 lookups? from koha to LoC. I have an older system that works (3.11.00.026) and a newer that shows no results (3.17.00.009) |
| 21:17 | cait | are both targets set up the same? |
| 21:17 | eternalsword | same LoC configuration. |
| 21:17 | cait | administration > z39.50 targets |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | you can use yaz client to see if you can connect to the target from the command line |
| 21:18 | if it doesn't work there, it won't work from koha | |
| 21:18 | yaz-client z3950.loc.gov:7090 | |
| 21:19 | eternalsword | yaz client connected fine. how would I do a lookup to test? |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | base LCDB |
| 21:20 | then f your query | |
| 21:21 | if all of that works, then you probably have a typo or a space in your z39.50 definitions in Administration -> z39.50 targets | |
| 21:21 | or it's unimarc instead of marc21 | |
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| 21:21 | wizzyrea | or something like that |
| 21:22 | cait | sometimes also firewall |
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| 21:22 | cait | because of unusual ports |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | yep, also firewall |
| 21:23 | though I'm having trouble currently with LoC | |
| 21:23 | from one I know works. | |
| 21:23 | it might be buste.d | |
| 21:25 | also if you have z3950.loc.gov:7090, it's probably wrong, because they've changed the target (I just looked it up) | |
| 21:25 | so try lx2.loc.gov:210 | |
| 21:25 | which is working just fine. | |
| 21:29 | * wizzyrea | stops her nattering |
| 21:31 | eternalsword | okay, yaz-client works on both machines. koha works on one machine. identical configuration. |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | then it's probably a typo or a firewall rule ;) |
| 21:32 | more likely a firewall rule at this point. | |
| 21:32 | though I'm not sure how. | |
| 21:32 | since it works from the command line, | |
| 21:32 | tcohen | typo |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | ^ is what I meant |
| 21:32 | it's still earlyish here. | |
| 21:32 | eternalsword | not a typo. this is a migrated database. |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | did you double check? spaces can be insidious little buggers. |
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| 21:35 | eternalsword | no extra spaces. |
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| 21:35 | eternalsword | is there a debug flag I can throw? |
| 21:39 | cait | you can check if there is something int he logs |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | yeah the intranet error log might tell you something |
| 21:43 | eternalsword | looks like this gets thrown. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at C4/Auth.pm line 750 |
| 21:44 | looks like ne is supposed to be "not equal" not a variable. my perl is rusty and it was bad before. | |
| 21:45 | I am using starman & plack on the new system. Wonder if it's a quirk. | |
| 21:46 | tcohen | eternalsword: can u use yaz-client from the command line in the Koha server to successfuly reach the z39.50 target? |
| 21:46 | eternalsword | yes. |
| 21:46 | tcohen | and Koha sits in the same server |
| 21:47 | eternalsword | yes. |
| 21:47 | tcohen | those "uninitialized" warnings are harmless |
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| 21:49 | eternalsword | this is one of those issues that makes me want to smash something. |
| 21:49 | * tcohen | agrees |
| 21:50 | tcohen | i'll look at the IRC logs as I dont' know what the error message ir |
| 21:50 | is | |
| 21:50 | cait | good nigth all |
| 21:50 | eternalsword | there's no error message. Just shows no results found when there should be results. |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | his issue is ^ |
| 21:51 | what is the LoC hostname you are connecting to | |
| 21:51 | eternalsword | lx2.loc.gov:210 |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | that should be right |
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| 21:53 | eternalsword | Database: LCDB, Checked: Yes, Rank: 1, Syntax: USMARC, Encoding: utf8, Timeout: 0, Record type: biblio |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | yep seems right |
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| 21:55 | eternalsword | could I be missing perl bindings or something? |
| 21:56 | I would think that would definitely throw error though. | |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | in more -> about koha, click the modules tab |
| 21:56 | are you missing any? | |
| 21:57 | eternalsword | only the optional Readonly::XS |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | not that then. |
| 22:02 | brb have to reboot | |
| 22:03 | * wizzyrea | mutters about ubuntu ubdates that require a reboot... it isn't *&(^%**& windows. |
| 22:03 | eythian_ | Only the kernel and dbus require a reboot |
| 22:05 | eternalsword | although sometimes it's faster to reboot than to figure out all the services that need to be restarted. |
| 22:06 | well, think I'll tackle this issue tomorrow. If anyone has any ideas, just address them to me. I'll either see them in the log or more likely in my scrollback buffer. | |
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