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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:18 | dcook__ | Mmm, I finally understand batch checkouts... |
| 00:18 | dcook | Maybe |
| 00:20 | I've heard of people checking out multiple items at once using RFID scanners, although I think in my experience I've only checked out one at a time with libraries that used RFID | |
| 00:21 | rangi | it doesnt work well |
| 00:21 | dcook | That would be my thought as well |
| 00:21 | rangi | one of those 8 books has a hold on it |
| 00:21 | or cant be checked out etc | |
| 00:21 | it just becomes a UX nightmare | |
| 00:22 | dcook | Totally agree with you: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…].cgi?id=11759#c11 |
| 00:22 | huginn | 04Bug 11759: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Batch checkout |
| 00:22 | dcook | I'm trying to think if there is a way that you could catch those errors and show them in an easy way.. |
| 00:23 | I also wonder a bit about the range of the scanner | |
| 00:24 | If you plunk a stack of books on it, it might not reach the top of the stack | |
| 00:24 | Mind you, they've probably made them reasonably powerful, I suppose | |
| 00:32 | wizzyrea | mmm where we used it it was "put one book down at a time |
| 00:33 | and that I think is how most libraries do it generally. | |
| 00:33 | at least the 3 or 4 that I've been in that have rfid | |
| 00:33 | check in is different though. | |
| 00:34 | check in you can do stacks. | |
| 00:47 | dcook | neato burrito |
| 00:47 | * dcook | has just been wanting to say that for a little while... |
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| 01:04 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 01:04 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on July 15, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:06 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 01:06 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 15.9°C (11:04 AM EST on July 15, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:07 | dcook | Clear? Ha... |
| 01:07 | * dcook | hopes it clears so the laundry on the line dries... |
| 01:13 | wizzyrea | it feels nice enough out there |
| 01:18 | eythian | chilly though |
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| 01:33 | jcamins | dcook: I check out lots of items at once at my local library. |
| 01:34 | dcook | jcamins: Yeah? Self-checkout? |
| 01:34 | hey irma :) | |
| 01:34 | jcamins | dcook: yeah, but not Koha. |
| 01:34 | dcook | jcamins: I imagined that might be the case :p |
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| 03:41 | irma | hi all, hi dcook ... sorry I can't stop .. we are moving office and it's a bit crazy here right now. I will get in touch asap. |
| 03:45 | dcook | Good luck with the move, irma! |
| 03:56 | mtj | hey #koha... |
| 03:56 | wahanui | well, #koha is all kinds of good drugs today |
| 03:56 | mtj | has anyone else noticed a search problem with DOM kohas, and QueryFuzzy/QueryAutoTruncate sysprefs? |
| 03:57 | seems like those 2 sysprefs cause a DOM koha to return zero results... | |
| 04:00 | aah, looks like this bug -> 9715 | |
| 04:00 | dcook | bug 9715 |
| 04:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9715 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Variouse combinations of QueryAutoTruncate, QueryFuzzy and QueryWeightFields preferences Conflict |
| 04:00 | dcook | Mmm, I'm not sure that's the case |
| 04:00 | Are you also using ICU, mtj? | |
| 04:00 | Ah, yes, Katrin's comment is a good one | |
| 04:01 | mtj | hmm, afaik - no ICU here |
| 04:01 | dcook | Hmm, that's one that caused us a lot of problems |
| 04:02 | ICU + QueryFuzzy or QueryAutoTruncate | |
| 04:02 | But yeah, those preferences are a mess atm | |
| 04:02 | * dcook | has it on the list of things to fix |
| 04:02 | dcook | My guess is that you're getting an invalid query created |
| 04:02 | Probably via QueryWeightFields, as it's a horrendous bit of code | |
| 04:02 | * mtj | peeking at bug 9976 too |
| 04:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9976 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, QueryAutoTruncate can break search when ICU is activated |
| 04:02 | dcook | Oooh |
| 04:03 | mtj: I would double check about ICU | |
| 04:04 | And if it's using CHR instead, I'd add some warns to see what sort of PQF query is being spun off to Zebra | |
| 04:04 | * dcook | is happy to help troubleshoot PQF queries |
| 04:08 | mtj | hmm, def. no ICU here |
| 04:08 | great to find some info, in those ticket tho | |
| 04:09 | i might have to do a little poking myself | |
| 04:10 | DOM seemed to have problems with some search sysprefs, that GRS1 did not | |
| 04:11 | dcook | I think I've heard that, although I find it surprising |
| 04:11 | Zebra is a bit of a black box though... | |
| 04:12 | Well, white and black...:p | |
| 04:14 | mtj | for me... QueryFuzzy and QueryAutoTruncate were the problem prefs |
| 04:15 | as you mentioned before dcook ^^ :0) | |
| 04:15 | now i'm repeating myself | |
| 04:15 | dcook | It still seems strange...I think I've only had problems with those prefs when using ICU |
| 04:16 | (QueryAutoTruncate and QueryWeightFields don't play nicely together regardless of tokenizer or filter though) | |
| 04:16 | When we switched back to CHR (while still using DOM), they worked ok | |
| 04:19 | mtj | hmm, thanks for the info dcook |
| 04:20 | i'll try to have decent twiddle over the next few days, and see if i can work out whats going on... | |
| 04:22 | * mtj | is in the middle of something else, atm |
| 04:27 | dcook | Same. Really want to work on search, but have other projects :/ |
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| 06:32 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:00 | Joubu | hello |
| 07:00 | wahanui | salut, Joubu |
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| 07:17 | cait | morning Joubu |
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| 07:21 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:02 | ashimema | Good Morning #koha |
| 08:04 | dcook.. are you intending to have a play with search at some point.. I noticed a flurry of bugzilla mails about zebra bugs I put in ages ago ;) | |
| 08:04 | would be awesome if you get a chance.. I'de love to see some of that code re-factored.. it's a Mess. | |
| 08:23 | Joubu | cait: bug 10155 seems to be fixed by bug 9811 |
| 08:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10155 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron search should remember search options selected |
| 08:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Patrons search improvements | |
| 08:23 | Joubu | why did you link both? |
| 08:24 | cait: I have just tried on master, and the dopdown list in the header are correctly selected | |
| 08:24 | cait: ho non, sorry | |
| 08:24 | cait: it's only "search type" | |
| 08:24 | cait | sorry, brb |
| 08:34 | Joubu: i tested on master, there is still a small glitch | |
| 08:34 | it's a lot better than before tho :) | |
| 08:34 | ah... and now I see you already found it - should read back first :) | |
| 08:35 | Joubu | cait: and patch sent ;) |
| 08:35 | cait | yep :) |
| 08:35 | there is something else weird, let me see if i can find the bug | |
| 08:36 | when you are on a patron detail page | |
| 08:36 | and look at the patron search options on top with the + - it doesn't work | |
| 08:36 | bug 7380 | |
| 08:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7380 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't filter patron search on detail page |
| 08:38 | Joubu | cait: ... weird :) |
| 08:38 | I will have a look too | |
| 08:39 | cait | thx, it's an old one, it also changed in master since the first report, but is still... not really working |
| 08:56 | ptfs_europe++ | |
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| 09:12 | ashimema | :) |
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| 10:06 | magnuse | gah: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 494. |
| 10:24 | that happens after upgrading my test server from 3.14.7 to 3.16.1 | |
| 10:29 | bug 9864 perhaps? | |
| 10:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9864 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , systematic searching error : can't call method "raw" |
| 10:36 | magnuse | reminds me of bug 9256 |
| 10:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, CLOSED FIXED, Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 10:55 | magnuse | bug 12577 |
| 10:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12577 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Search is broke after upgrade from 3.14.7 to 3.16.1 |
| 11:13 | cait | magnuse: hm maybe check your default sort settings |
| 11:13 | but it might be i have another bug on mind | |
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| 11:15 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 11:21 | magnuse | cait: changing from relevance to title did not change anything |
| 11:27 | cait | maybe another bug :( |
| 11:27 | when does it happen? | |
| 11:28 | magnuse | on every search |
| 11:29 | and after upgrading a package install from 3.14.x to 3.16.1 | |
| 11:29 | cait | hmm |
| 11:30 | i'd try switching off all the search prefs for a start i guess | |
| 11:30 | your frameworks are ok? | |
| 11:30 | reindexed? | |
| 11:30 | magnuse | yup did a full reindex |
| 11:30 | cait | we have a 3.16.1 that sarches ok |
| 11:30 | let me check | |
| 11:30 | magnuse | it worked as it should before the upgrade |
| 11:31 | cait | ours seems alive |
| 11:31 | magnuse | i suspect it might be related t normarc (or "not marc21") |
| 11:31 | cait | oh |
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| 11:31 | cait | that could be i guess :( |
| 11:31 | maybe check if something changed in zebra conf? | |
| 11:31 | i guess a lot did | |
| 11:31 | magnuse | hehe |
| 11:31 | probably | |
| 11:32 | cait | maybe run zebra on the command line? |
| 11:32 | magnuse | there might be some change that was not done for normarc |
| 11:32 | cait | to see if there is an error? |
| 11:32 | magnuse | yeah |
| 11:32 | cait | yeah i guess |
| 11:32 | or some if/else you fall over | |
| 11:32 | magnuse | if i can remember how to do that... |
| 11:34 | ah? I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/zebradb/normarc-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml" | |
| 11:35 | cait | hm interesting |
| 11:35 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 11:35 | magnuse | /etc/koha/zebradb/normarc-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml: No such file or directory |
| 11:37 | cait | ohoh |
| 11:37 | magnuse | hm, /etc/koha/zebradb/ has retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml, but no *-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml files? |
| 11:37 | so why is it looking for a normarc specific one? | |
| 11:37 | cait | i am not sure |
| 11:38 | if you grep for the last bit of the file name, maybe you can see where it comes from? | |
| 11:40 | magnuse | debian/scripts/koha-create: 231: <xi:include href="\/etc\/koha\/$marc_format-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml"\n |
| 11:41 | cait | hm interesting |
| 11:41 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 11:41 | cait | git blame maybe? |
| 11:44 | magnuse | hm, there *is* a file called /etc/koha/normarc-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml |
| 11:45 | but *not* /etc/koha/zebradb/normarc-retrieval-info-auth-dom.xml | |
| 11:48 | oops, gotta run! | |
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| 12:26 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:55 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:55 | thank you for the accordeon patch and the other bug :) | |
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| 13:01 | khall | at some point, somewhere, someone mentioned a way to grab a dbix class resultset by table name, does anyone remember how? google has not helped me at all |
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| 13:08 | nengard | morning all |
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| 14:28 | reiveune | bye |
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| 14:29 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12263: Fix startup issues blocking response to HUP <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]93727f51f5889e5b4> / Bug 11575 - OPACBaseURL sometimes set by ENV variable and not system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1af877deae1161e2f> / Bug 12377 [QA Followup] - Remove readonly from input <http://git.koha-comm |
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| 15:17 | oleonard | gmcharlt: Can you give the wiki a kick? Seems to be down. |
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| 15:30 | ashimema | @later tall cait http://dclg.koha-ptfs.co.uk/vufind/ |
| 15:30 | huginn | ashimema: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 15:30 | ashimema | @later tell cait http://dclg.koha-ptfs.co.uk/vufind/ |
| 15:30 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:30 | ashimema | oops |
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| 16:56 | tcohen | hi |
| 16:57 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
| 16:57 | tcohen | oleonard: is it possible that patron pictures are not cached? |
| 16:58 | i mean, is it by design or a bug? | |
| 16:59 | oleonard | I don't know. |
| 17:03 | tcohen | hmm, no bug # |
| 17:03 | oleonard | Why do you ask tcohen? There is something buggy about it? |
| 17:04 | tcohen | yes |
| 17:04 | it retrieves the image on each tab change | |
| 17:04 | (when testing your awesome patch btw) | |
| 17:04 | oleonard | Thanks but you make me realize I didn't test with patron images on! |
| 17:05 | tcohen | there's an explicit Cache-control:no-store header |
| 17:05 | which is explicitly added by a patch from chris_n | |
| 17:05 | chris_n: commit 6b89cda9699e22a095b34fb96960882989c76c9a | |
| 17:06 | do u remember why you added Cache-control:no-store to the headers? | |
| 17:15 | jcamins | tcohen: a requirement from chris_n's library to make sure that the pictures were changed immediately, as I recall. |
| 17:15 | tcohen | thanks jcamins |
| 17:15 | i'll add a timestamp field to patronimages | |
| 17:15 | and correctly set Last-Modified header | |
| 17:15 | (or something like that) | |
| 17:16 | (if it sounds reasonable heh) | |
| 17:18 | NOW WE SPEAK | |
| 17:18 | -1 sec on checkout reload :-D | |
| 17:19 | (caching patron image) | |
| 17:44 | oleonard | @seen sekjal |
| 17:44 | huginn | oleonard: sekjal was last seen in #koha 12 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 25 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <sekjal> rambutan: URL is http://library.umass.edu, but the new version is in testing elsewhere |
| 17:45 | oleonard | There are 94 bugs which are assigned to, CC, or have QA contact as sekjal. I think these should be cleaned up. |
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| 17:46 | * magnuse | waves |
| 17:47 | magnuse | oops someone should update the topic thingy |
| 17:51 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.16.1 is available! Next general meeting is 13 and 14 August 2014 at 22:00 and 15:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes. | |
| 17:51 | tcohen | has anyone mentioned about having more that one patron picture stored on the DB recently? |
| 17:53 | oleonard | Is that a feature or a bug? |
| 17:54 | tcohen | feature |
| 17:54 | magnuse | thanks oleonard |
| 17:54 | tcohen | oleonard: do u think someone would need to add more than one patron image? and choose the preferred one? |
| 17:55 | oleonard | I don't know tcohen we don't use patron images. |
| 17:56 | tcohen | ok :-D |
| 17:57 | magnuse | i guess you could imagine importing images from more than one, possibly overlapping, sources - but it does sound a bit far fetched to me... |
| 18:03 | tcohen | magnuse: i sent an RFC to koha-devel on this |
| 18:04 | I wanted to implement better caching and an option to capture from a webcam | |
| 18:04 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebra output related to bug 12577" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/98 |
| 18:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12577 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Search is broken after upgrade from 3.14.7 to 3.16.1 |
| 18:04 | magnuse | any zebra gurus able to make head or tail of that? ^ |
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| 18:05 | magnuse | tcohen: i am sure noone will object to having the possibility of more than one image :-) |
| 18:05 | (unless it makes current workflows harder, of curse :-) | |
| 18:06 | tcohen | it would be harmless I think |
| 18:06 | magnuse: it looks like you have broken data, are you using DOM? | |
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| 18:10 | magnuse | tcohen: yeah, i guess... standard package install |
| 18:10 | tcohen | it is a clean 3.14 install? |
| 18:10 | or you come from 3.12? | |
| 18:10 | magnuse | well, with normarc, which is kind of non-standard... |
| 18:10 | yeah, it's been through a number of upgrades | |
| 18:10 | so definnitely started at 3.12 | |
| 18:11 | and probably earlier too | |
| 18:11 | i have a marc21 instance on the same server that does not have this problem | |
| 18:11 | (the error i get in the ui is " Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 494. ") | |
| 18:13 | i get the same error on several instances on this server, so i don't think individual bad records are the problem | |
| 18:13 | tcohen | my experience says you have a record that cannot be rendered |
| 18:13 | but is counted as a search result | |
| 18:16 | when that happens, i connect manually to zebra, using yaz | |
| 18:16 | yaz-client | |
| 18:16 | wahanui | rumour has it yaz-client is http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/yaz-client.html |
| 18:16 | tcohen | and perform the same search |
| 18:16 | then use 's' to move from one result to the other | |
| 18:17 | magnuse | yeah, i'll give that a shot |
| 18:17 | tcohen | i usually spot the encoding problem really fast |
| 18:17 | because they are not too many results | |
| 18:17 | * tcohen | thinks it is a pain but can be done |
| 18:18 | tcohen | are you sure it is 3.16.1? |
| 18:18 | magnuse | yup <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.1601000" /> |
| 18:19 | hm, how do i figure out what to connect yaz-client to again? | |
| 18:20 | tcohen | yaz-client |
| 18:20 | wahanui | i heard yaz-client was http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/yaz-client.html |
| 18:20 | magnuse | ah, koha-conf.xml, nm |
| 18:20 | tcohen | > open unix:/home/tcohen/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb/bibliosocket |
| 18:20 | (adjust to biblioserver entry in koha-conf.xml) | |
| 18:20 | base biblios | |
| 18:23 | magnuse | "Record syntax not supported" |
| 18:24 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "yaz-client" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/99 |
| 18:27 | tcohen | format xml |
| 18:27 | wahanui | i guess format xml is a client side transformation of whatever comes back from the server. |
| 18:27 | tcohen | before the show |
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| 18:30 | tcohen | magnuse? |
| 18:30 | wahanui | i heard magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 18:32 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "format xml" (171 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/100 |
| 18:34 | tcohen | just 2 records? |
| 18:34 | magnuse | yup |
| 18:34 | tcohen | instead of s 1, s 2, I always do s |
| 18:35 | until it shows the broken record | |
| 18:35 | magnuse | just s gives "Present request out of range" |
| 18:35 | tcohen | ah |
| 18:35 | re launch the search | |
| 18:36 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 18:36 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "just s" (98 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/101 |
| 18:37 | tcohen | looks not broken |
| 18:37 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "oops, forgot the second s" (87 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/102 |
| 18:37 | tcohen | did you hit s, until broken record shors? |
| 18:38 | magnuse | that second paste shows the second and third "s" |
| 18:39 | tcohen | try f @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 lessig |
| 18:40 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Z> f @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 lessig" (184 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/103 |
| 18:41 | * tcohen | is puzzled, no non-ASCII stuff actually |
| 18:41 | magnuse | no, the records should be pretty simple |
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| 18:47 | tcohen | no clue magnuse, can't find error 249 definition |
| 18:48 | (it was 239, heh) | |
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| 18:49 | magnuse | it feels very similar to what i fixed with bug 9256 |
| 18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, CLOSED FIXED, Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 18:49 | magnuse | but i can't for the life of me understand why that should be coming back |
| 18:49 | * magnuse | waves to pianohacker |
| 18:49 | pianohacker | hi magnuse :) |
| 18:50 | tcohen | magnuse: inherited config files that do not account for changes in the Search api |
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| 18:51 | * magnuse | waves to cait |
| 18:51 | magnuse | tcohen: that could very well be... |
| 18:51 | tcohen | there have been improvements in the config files |
| 18:52 | we should have a way to fast-forward zebra config files | |
| 18:53 | oleonard | if ( my $count = scalar @$contents ) {} will return false if scalar @$contents is 0? |
| 18:54 | magnuse | oleonard: beware of "=" there |
| 18:54 | oh, never mind | |
| 18:54 | wahanui | Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. |
| 18:54 | * cait | waves back |
| 18:55 | cait | sorry, got distracted by email :) |
| 18:55 | oleonard | I'm just trying to understand how that works |
| 18:55 | magnuse | oleonard: what do you mean by return? put false in $count? |
| 18:55 | cait | magnuse: did you figure out the search problem? |
| 18:55 | magnuse | cait: nope, tcohen has been trying to help me |
| 18:55 | still no luck | |
| 18:55 | oleonard | I mean evaluate as false magnuse |
| 18:56 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 18:56 | ashimema++ | |
| 18:56 | tcohen | cait: "trying" |
| 18:58 | magnuse | oleonard: i *think* the if will pick up on whether the assignment was successfull or not, but i'm not sure |
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| 18:59 | oleonard | The code I'm trying to understand is on line 387: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ec9ab35b4;hb=HEAD |
| 19:00 | magnuse | oleonard: hehe, git blame credits you with that line ;-) |
| 19:00 | * oleonard | pleads insanity |
| 19:01 | tcohen | oleonard: let it go |
| 19:01 | that's a 450 lines long function... | |
| 19:02 | cait | ugh? |
| 19:04 | oleonard | Oh okay, apparently I did a PerlTidy of that file 4 years ago. It doesn't mean I understand it :P |
| 19:09 | magnuse | :-) |
| 19:09 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 19:09 | magnuse | have fun tcohen |
| 19:09 | cait | you probably tried to :) |
| 19:10 | magnuse | ah, looks like there were some marc21 and unimarc files that were updated between 3.14.0 and HEAD, but no changes for the corresponding normarc files |
| 19:24 | gah, those changes look like they are just minor tweaks to the indexing, nothing that shoud affect normarc... | |
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| 20:03 | magnuse | hm, looks like i might not be using dom indexing after all... |
| 20:04 | <config>/etc/koha/sites/esme/zebra-biblios.cfg</config> | |
| 20:08 | so, how does one domify an existing instance running off the debian packages? that is the question... | |
| 20:08 | anyone know if http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_to_dom_indexing is the right place to start? | |
| 20:18 | cait | sorry i don't |
| 20:18 | could ou load the database in a new domified instance? | |
| 20:19 | magnuse | yeah, i was sort of thinking alone those lines... |
| 20:19 | *along | |
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| 20:25 | tcohen | hi |
| 20:25 | rangi | morning |
| 20:25 | magnuse | kia ora rangi! |
| 20:25 | Dyrcona | rangi: evening. :) |
| 20:27 | tcohen | hi rangi |
| 20:29 | cait | morning rangi |
| 20:29 | hi Dyrcona | |
| 20:29 | Dyrcona | hi cait! |
| 20:29 | magnuse | nah, looks like instances that do use dom have the problem too |
| 20:29 | cait | :) |
| 20:30 | magnuse: meh. | |
| 20:30 | * Dyrcona | is fixin' to go home for the day. |
| 20:30 | cait | have a nice evening then :) |
| 20:30 | Dyrcona | thanks |
| 20:31 | magnuse | have fun Dyrcona |
| 20:40 | jcamins | tcohen: I have a policy suggestion for commit messages: https://storify.com/anirvan/bu[…]e-commit-messages |
| 20:41 | rangi | jcamins: dont tempt me |
| 20:41 | tcohen | heh |
| 20:41 | rangi | did i ever show you what happened when i got bored with bugzilla messages? |
| 20:41 | jcamins | rangi: Increase patch readership by 200% with this simple trick! |
| 20:41 | I don't think so. | |
| 20:43 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]atus-of-300-bugs/ |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Oh, yeah, I remember that. |
| 20:44 | rangi | it worked too, all of them got tested :) |
| 20:44 | tcohen | heheh |
| 20:44 | magnuse | classic :-) |
| 20:44 | cait | :) |
| 20:45 | tcohen | rotfl |
| 20:45 | ibeardslee | you need a special user for that .. 'The Lonely Bug' |
| 20:46 | just for those special occasions when fixed bugs are left alone and wondering where all their friends have gone | |
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| 20:48 | rangi | :) |
| 20:49 | cait | heh |
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| 20:49 | rangi | hiya carmenh |
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| 20:49 | carmenh | hello rangi :) |
| 20:50 | hope all is well :) | |
| 20:51 | rangi | yep |
| 20:51 | larryb | hello #koha |
| 20:52 | tcohen | nengard: i'll try to answer tomorrow |
| 20:52 | (about kohacon14) | |
| 20:52 | nengard | answer? |
| 20:52 | wahanui | well, answer is always go back to sleep or 42 |
| 20:52 | cait | hi larryb |
| 20:52 | nengard | oh okay! |
| 20:52 | cool | |
| 20:52 | tcohen | we're on winter holiday |
| 20:52 | and people are not sending me the data | |
| 20:52 | larryb | I need a little help getting koha installed on a Ubuntu 12.04 server. I've done it before, but it's not working on this one. |
| 20:55 | rangi | tcohen: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_is_arriving_when i started this, to help people share taxi etc |
| 20:55 | larryb | the problem is libreadonly-xs-perl libstring-crc32-perl libtext-unaccent-perl which require perlapi-5.10.0, and so they won't install. Any suggestions for getting around this? |
| 20:56 | cait | rangi: cool :) |
| 20:56 | rangi | larryb: you might have to dh-make-perl them |
| 20:57 | so they build with deps that are in 12.04 | |
| 20:57 | tcohen | larryb: what instructions are you following? |
| 20:58 | larryb | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
| 20:58 | apt-get install koha-deps koha-perldeps, then apt-get install koha-common | |
| 20:58 | it's the koha-perldeps that are failing, due to those three packages. | |
| 20:58 | tcohen | did you apt-get update |
| 20:58 | larryb | yep |
| 20:59 | tcohen | again? |
| 20:59 | larryb | yep |
| 20:59 | tcohen | i happened to me that indexes were old, and the referred files werent available anymore |
| 21:00 | * tcohen | is cloning his 12.04 server, to try to reproduce |
| 21:00 | tcohen | are you installing using 'squeeze'? |
| 21:00 | francharb | hello! |
| 21:00 | jcamins | larryb: check the policy on those packages, and then remove the unwanted apt repos? |
| 21:00 | francharb | cait, are you still here? |
| 21:00 | larryb | in this case, these three require perlapi-5.10.0, and but perl-base is 3.14.2 |
| 21:00 | cait | kind of |
| 21:00 | francharb | quick question? |
| 21:00 | rangi | francharb++ #for answering the serials mail |
| 21:00 | cait | i can try :) bit tired tho, no guarantees :) |
| 21:01 | yep francharb++ indeed | |
| 21:01 | francharb | thanks rangi cait |
| 21:01 | :) | |
| 21:01 | It's on what I should do | |
| 21:01 | tcohen | larryb: 'squeeze'? |
| 21:01 | wahanui | it has been said that 'squeeze' is debian-stable |
| 21:02 | francharb | now, we can merge two authorities through the interface |
| 21:02 | it works on 3.14.06 | |
| 21:02 | but it's broke on 3.14.07 | |
| 21:02 | larryb | tcohen, well I was trying pull from oldstable. you think I should try squeeze instead. |
| 21:02 | oldstable is 3.14.08, so maybe it's broken there there. | |
| 21:03 | francharb | The release notes says that this patch has been introduced to fix something related to authority merging |
| 21:03 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11652 | |
| 21:03 | huginn | 04Bug 11652: minor, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , merging authority records does not correct biblios |
| 21:03 | francharb | since, it's signed offed by at least 2 peole |
| 21:04 | I guess something went wront when merging the patch into 3.14.07 | |
| 21:04 | cait | hm maybe |
| 21:04 | francharb | should I report a new bug |
| 21:04 | cait | or something is missing that is in master |
| 21:04 | francharb | or ask for a follow up on the bug itself? |
| 21:04 | cait | i think reporting a bug would be good - did you test if it's ok on master? |
| 21:04 | larryb | tcohen, I tried installing k-c.org squeeze, and that failed too. |
| 21:04 | tcohen | larryb: i've successfully installed on a fresh 12.04 server, using 'oldstable' |
| 21:05 | jcamins | I heard other reports that it's broken in 3.14.x. |
| 21:05 | francharb | not yet, I have a problem with my database, right now |
| 21:05 | cait | i think i woudl report separately but link them, and make sure you put fridolin on the cc list |
| 21:05 | francharb | but i'm going to test it |
| 21:05 | jcamins | I don't really have time to troubleshoot, though. |
| 21:05 | larryb | tcohen, yeah, and I've done it on other 12.04, but on this one it doesn't want to. |
| 21:05 | francharb | ok! Thanks cait!! |
| 21:05 | cait | and if you could check master that woudl be a plus |
| 21:06 | francharb | ok! |
| 21:06 | jcamins | larryb: you checked your apt policy and everything looked normal? |
| 21:06 | francharb | thank you cait !! |
| 21:06 | larryb | jcamins, yes |
| 21:07 | jcamins | larryb: very odd, because the version of those packages in precise depends on perl 5.14. |
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| 21:12 | tcohen | larryb: apt-cache policy libreadonly-xs-perl 's output? |
| 21:12 | larryb | hmm I'm thinking something in the apt has gotten screwed up. I'm going to trying wiping it back to base install and start over. |
| 21:12 | thanks #koha | |
| 21:13 | tcohen | larryb: that'd do it, definitely :-D |
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| 21:31 | francharb | time to go |
| 21:31 | see you | |
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| 21:40 | rangi | i still stand by this tweet https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]84159149412864000 |
| 21:44 | cait | eythian: around? |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 21:45 | cait | rangi: need cookies? |
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| 22:14 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12438 - Bad encoding in acquisition basket <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65517554b722c66cd> |
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| 22:27 | pianohacker | does anyone know if the issue with doing db_dependent tests using DBIC (where DBIC and C4::Context used separate dbh's) has been fixed? |
| 22:28 | rangi | yep gmcharlt fixed it |
| 22:28 | eythian | hi |
| 22:28 | wahanui | what's up, eythian |
| 22:28 | pianohacker | sweet, thanks rangi |
| 22:28 | eythian | cait: am now, sup? |
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| 22:34 | cait | eythian: packages hate me? |
| 22:34 | eythian | yeah, I built that in specially |
| 22:34 | cait | ah... could have guessed that |
| 22:34 | my system is a current debian, so old apache | |
| 22:34 | no .conf on my sites | |
| 22:35 | i had problems running sudo koha-disable instance | |
| 22:35 | /usr/sbin/koha-disable: 35: [: =: argument expected | |
| 22:35 | eythian | well, it should always be .conf now. |
| 22:35 | the scripts will just find it no matter which way it's used. | |
| 22:35 | (depending on the Koha version, though, I don't know if it went back to 3.14 or not.) | |
| 22:36 | cait | all i can say is that it didnd't work :( |
| 22:36 | and then i tried koha-dump | |
| 22:36 | eythian | what koha version? |
| 22:36 | cait | Dumping Koha site bib1: |
| 22:36 | * DB to /var/spool/koha/bib1/bib1-2014-07-15.sql.gz | |
| 22:36 | * configs, logs to /var/spool/koha/bib1/bib1-2014-07-15.tar.gz | |
| 22:36 | tar: etc/apache2/sites-available/bib1.conf: Kann stat nicht ausführen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden | |
| 22:37 | i started with 3.14 and then updated to 3.16 when it was released | |
| 22:37 | but when i ran koha-dump i had done an a2dissite on the instances to deactivate them | |
| 22:37 | eythian | hmm |
| 22:38 | cait | mostly just letting you know now - as i have figured out a way to do it wihtout package commands :) |
| 22:38 | eythian | keep in mind that koha-disable and a2dissite work quite differently |
| 22:39 | cait | i know |
| 22:39 | well kidn of know | |
| 22:39 | i expected it, but it seemed the easiest way after step 1 didn't work | |
| 22:39 | eythian | uhm |
| 22:40 | there's no way you should be able to get that error message from koha-disable, I should think | |
| 22:40 | * eythian | checks something |
| 22:40 | cait | but... |
| 22:41 | eythian | can you tell me what that line is in the specific script you have installed? |
| 22:48 | (I'm wondering if you somehow have a slightly oddball version. | |
| 22:48 | ) | |
| 22:48 | Also, how do you not have .conf? was this from saying no when it asked if you wanted to convert them? | |
| 22:48 | cait | i don't remember if i said no, but i guess i did |
| 22:48 | why do we offer an option that you should not use? :) | |
| 22:49 | eythian | because I don't really want it silently changing people's systems :) |
| 22:49 | however, it should be happy to work in both cases. | |
| 22:50 | cait | if [ "$instancefile" = ""]; then |
| 22:50 | eythian | right, that's correct. |
| 22:50 | I don't really understand how that incantation can cause that error though | |
| 22:50 | ohh... | |
| 22:50 | * eythian | tries something, somehow. |
| 22:51 | eythian | hmm nope |
| 22:53 | cait | sorry for giving you riddles :) |
| 22:53 | i really need to lseep now | |
| 22:54 | it's nothing urgent, but maybe someone else runs into it sometime | |
| 22:54 | good night #koha | |
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