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| 00:00 | pianohacker | document.f.submit(); |
| 00:00 | return true; | |
| 00:00 | hi middle click | |
| 00:00 | eythian | could have been worse. could have been hunter2 |
| 00:01 | pianohacker | *******? |
| 00:02 | eythian | that's what I said. |
| 00:03 | pianohacker | oh, thank goodness I don't use that password anymore |
| 00:03 | ************ | |
| 00:03 | woops | |
| 00:13 | eythian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S[…]ources/0553568159 <-- this could be a useful thing to link to from records. |
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| 00:59 | wizzyrea | ohhhhh that's neat! |
| 01:00 | * wizzyrea | imagines a map with the search results plotted |
| 01:01 | wizzyrea | which is actually something else that just popped into my mind, related but not. |
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| 04:25 | mtj | wow, thats very handy for koha :) |
| 04:28 | eythian | hrm, setting sysprefs doesn't seem to clear the syspref cache at all. |
| 04:28 | That's problematic. | |
| 04:28 | I guess it makes sense in a CGI world. | |
| 04:29 | * eythian | is thinking of putting a 30 second timer onto the syspref cache if you're running under plack. |
| 04:31 | mtj | hiya eythian |
| 04:34 | eythian | howdy |
| 04:34 | wahanui | hola, eythian |
| 04:34 | mtj | i'm still trying to understand that weird bug |
| 04:36 | i am thinking to myself, why not wipe, then recache the table, after any syspref change? | |
| 04:37 | that would fix the bug, without the need for any timing code? | |
| 04:40 | eythian | mtj: that wouldn't work when you have multiple processes. |
| 04:40 | This is an in-process cache, not memcache or similar. | |
| 04:41 | it seems that sysprefs don't go into memcache. | |
| 04:41 | I might make them do that too if it's available. | |
| 04:41 | mtj | aaah ok.. yeah, i was assuming memcache |
| 04:42 | woah… i though sysprefs were memcached too :/ | |
| 04:43 | eythian | yeah, me too |
| 04:44 | it'd be fairly fast, it wouldn't even need serialisation. | |
| 04:46 | mtj | hmm, they sure dont look like they are cached, from the code |
| 04:46 | eythian | yeah, they just go into that little hash. |
| 04:46 | I'm thinking of refactoring that area a bit so that there's a Koha::SystemPreferences module and all things go through that. | |
| 04:47 | it shouldn't be too hard. | |
| 04:47 | mtj | i wonder if folks thought that mysql did a decent enuff job of caching the prefs, and didnt bother |
| 04:48 | eythian | well, the hash would have worked perfectly fine for CGI |
| 04:48 | but it fails when you have persistence. | |
| 04:49 | mtj | yeah, i see that |
| 04:53 | eythian, you get plack to not cache in-process, and always fetch from memcache? | |
| 04:54 | eythian | yeah, but memcache isn't always available, so I'd like to handle that nicely too. |
| 04:54 | mtj | ok, and yes :) |
| 05:12 | wajasu | maybe have a way to turn off memcache of sysprefs so when testing, and changing sysprefs, one gets changes immediately. |
| 05:14 | eythian | Memcache shouldn't be a problem, I'll make it clear. However doing that for an internal cache is a problem for the same reason that caching internally is a problem anyway: we have no way to signal to other workers to turn off the cache (sort of setting something in koha-conf.) |
| 05:14 | *short of... | |
| 05:24 | wajasu: popcorn is also <reply>http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.co[…]NJCNrpornZlXe.png | |
| 05:24 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 05:29 | wajasu | if you have a way to set the timeout for the cached data (ie koha-conf.xml) for 0 or 1 second, that would be helpful enough. |
| 05:29 | you call. | |
| 05:30 | eythian | it could certainly be done, but it'd probably be a followup. |
| 05:30 | wajasu | yeah. |
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| 05:32 | eythian | it'd make more sense to just disable it actually, you could do that on a staging site or similar. |
| 05:33 | hello cait | |
| 05:35 | * wajasu | just finally figured out i needed to add a z:index to the xsl so i can get Z> element zebra;:facet::Title:0 Z> f @attr 1=1003 Gianfranco working. |
| 05:35 | dcook | wajasu: Follow the instructions I posteed |
| 05:35 | * wajasu | yay! |
| 05:35 | wajasu | i did. |
| 05:35 | eythian | wajasu: css selectors is http://flukeout.github.io/ |
| 05:36 | dcook | Also follow Tomas's instructions |
| 05:36 | As in, add the index to the XML and then convert that over into the XSL | |
| 05:36 | In any case, glad you got it working :) | |
| 05:36 | eythian | wahanui: css selectors is http://flukeout.github.io/ |
| 05:36 | wahanui | i already had it that way, eythian. |
| 05:36 | eythian | oh |
| 05:37 | wajasu: your name is too close to wahanui :) | |
| 05:39 | wajasu | dcook: the missing knowledge was the fact that I hadd to add z:index to a stylesheet. you guys already add that knowledge, but i was flying blind. a greenhorn in all that stuff. |
| 05:44 | dcook: thanks for all the patience/help on that facet stuff. i ended up learning all about zebra, reading the source code as well since i got stuck. | |
| 05:44 | * cait | waves |
| 05:45 | dcook | No worries. Zebra is a bit of an intimidating beast at first, and this facet stuff has puzzled folks for years, so it feels pretty good to have sorted out a lot of it now. |
| 05:45 | heya cait :) | |
| 05:45 | On an unrelated note, there's a Diablo III expansion? O_o | |
| 05:46 | eythian | oh good, we need more zebra experts. I know very little about it myself. |
| 05:47 | maybe we need a "get your feet wet with zebra" wiki page, that covers the basics of how it works. | |
| 05:47 | wajasu | well i wonder if we should make all zebra config "managed" as a syspref, and we generate teh configs on the fly, so we can choose what to facet and limits. |
| 05:48 | eythian | some parts of it could be worthwhile, though my bar for sysprefs is usually "would it be useful for a librarian to modify this" |
| 05:49 | wajasu | or just vote on the set of facets we really need and config that set, driven by koha-conf.xml. |
| 05:49 | dcook | eythian: Possibly. Configurable facets could be handy. |
| 05:49 | eythian | it could be |
| 05:49 | dcook | That said... |
| 05:50 | It'll be a limited configurability | |
| 05:50 | Since each index we want to use with facets needs to have a ":0" index in the Zebra config | |
| 05:51 | wajasu | i could write a Koha::Config::Zebra class that gives most of what we offer, and write out the configurable files in a "root" for zebra. |
| 05:51 | dcook | eythian: Probably a good idea to have a "get your feet wet with zebra" wiki page. I wonder if anyone took notes from when gmcharlt gave a talk on Zebra at kohacon13 |
| 05:52 | Hmm...maybe wajasu. | |
| 05:53 | Given that rangi and eythian have been working on ElasticSearch, it might not hurt to wait on this one | |
| 05:53 | eythian | zebra will be around for a while yet I suspect. |
| 05:53 | wajasu | sure would be worth a try because of the headaches supporting complex configs. but of course we would have an unmanaged mode for extreme |
| 05:53 | dcook | I imagine but it would be good to have something a bit abstract/pluggable |
| 05:55 | cait | dcook: not sure elastic search will be for everyone |
| 05:56 | dcook | You're probably right. I suppose I just wish that we coupled things a bit more loosely in Koha. |
| 05:58 | wajasu | i wish we could decouple as well. it would let folks supply alternative implementations, even as KohaPlugins. |
| 06:00 | we need an API that is like a message ESB (ike apache camel). i wanted to just write an adapter using stomp to send/receive messages to Apache Camel, so folks could get Solr, and all those services. | |
| 06:02 | https://camel.apache.org/elasticsearch.html | |
| 06:03 | and once the message adapter was in place we could call https://camel.apache.org/components.html | |
| 06:07 | all i know is, i can't wait to use plack/psgi to test, with a nice preconfigured debugging setup. | |
| 06:08 | * wajasu | gnight. |
| 06:08 | eythian | later |
| 06:08 | wajasu: there is a script that makes it a lot easier. | |
| 06:11 | bug 11998 in case anyone is interested. | |
| 06:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11998 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Syspref caching issues |
| 06:31 | dcook | I think I'm out. Gym time maybe. |
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| 07:02 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:02 | dcook | hey magnuse |
| 07:02 | * dcook | lied before when he said that he was leaving.. |
| 07:05 | magnuse | dcook: there is no escape! |
| 07:07 | dcook | Nope. I think I'll probably die here. |
| 07:08 | * cait | thinks that would not be good |
| 07:08 | dcook | I'm not too keen on the dying myself |
| 07:09 | kivilahtio++ | |
| 07:09 | Love the format of these bug reports | |
| 07:09 | So easy to read | |
| 07:10 | Well, maybe not easy to read, but I like the formatting! | |
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| 07:16 | dcook | I might not be testing patches, but maybe my feedback will count for something |
| 07:18 | I'm starting to wonder a bit about all the patches in Bugzilla... | |
| 07:18 | I don't feed back all my work to the community for two reasons | |
| 07:18 | 1) I don't have the time | |
| 07:18 | 2) Not all the work I do is relevant to the community. It might be a local customization that isn't relevant for other users of Koha | |
| 07:19 | I suppose it makes a certain amount of sense to submit everything though and the useful can be sorted from the not useful by the community... | |
| 07:19 | rangi | exactly, no one knows what others are doing, or if the code will be useful if they never see it |
| 07:21 | dcook | True |
| 07:21 | Yet, I sometimes think that there is this expectation that once you submit a patch, it has to go in | |
| 07:21 | No, that's not what I mean... | |
| 07:21 | Rather...there is an expectation that everything "should" go in | |
| 07:21 | rangi | right |
| 07:22 | thats a flawed expectation | |
| 07:22 | dcook | Totally |
| 07:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #182 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #179 2 days 2 hr ago) |
| 07:30 | * cait | agrees |
| 07:30 | cait | also communicating things while they are being developed... not once it's all done would be good |
| 07:30 | magnuse | rangi: talking of bugs, maybe there should be a bug for the ncip work you are doing? |
| 07:34 | cait | now you scared him away ;) |
| 07:34 | magnuse | oh noes |
| 07:34 | cait | i have to go to work... later :) |
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| 07:34 | * magnuse | did not mean to do that |
| 07:35 | rangi | magnuse: no |
| 07:35 | its not part of koha | |
| 07:35 | no plan to bundle it like SIP and have it become ILS dependent | |
| 07:36 | its a sep repo, sep project | |
| 07:37 | * dcook | likes the sound of that |
| 07:39 | magnuse | hm, my persepctive is some someone researching koha and wondering about ncip support. they might look at the documentation and bugzilla, and they will have no clue that anything is happening |
| 07:39 | and btw, i'm all for it being a separate project! | |
| 07:40 | sweet as | |
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| 07:40 | rangi | someone can make a bug if they want, it just will sit there and never get closed |
| 07:41 | dcook | magnuse: Perhaps a wiki page? |
| 07:41 | * dcook | has been on a bug closing rampage at work lately, so quite anti-bugs that are needlessly open |
| 07:45 | magnuse | the ncip work will not affect even a single line of koha code? |
| 07:45 | yeah, a wiki page might be good | |
| 07:45 | rangi | magnuse: no |
| 07:45 | not one single line | |
| 07:46 | magnuse | very cool :-) |
| 07:47 | dcook | Ok. Giving in and getting food. Night all. |
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| 07:49 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:49 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:55 | magnuse | have fun dcook |
| 07:55 | bonjour france! | |
| 07:56 | sophie_m | hello magnuse :-) |
| 07:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #182: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/182/ |
| 07:57 | * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11352: fix unexpected data loss issues with batch patron deletion/anonymization | |
| 07:57 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11329: Check for MARC record existence in opac-showmarc | |
| 07:57 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11329: Check for MARC record existence in catalogue/showmarc | |
| 07:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11352 critical, P3, ---, abl, Pushed to Stable , Batch Patron Deletion/Anonmyzation deletes more than warning states it will delete |
| 07:57 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11329 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Check for marc record in opac-showmarc | |
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| 08:03 | huginn | GERMS!!!! |
| 08:03 | wahanui | germs is, like, http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
| 08:03 | cait | hmpf |
| 08:03 | good morning #koha :) | |
| 08:05 | magnuse | hiya cait |
| 08:21 | ashimema | the scrollback today is hilarious.. |
| 08:22 | and I have no issues with being the 'affable brit' in your stories pianohacker ;) | |
| 08:22 | morning #koha | |
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| 08:47 | cait | morning ashimema :) |
| 08:48 | ashimema | hi cait |
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| 08:51 | kivilahtio | dpavlin: ping ping! I have a question about plack and starman specifically. |
| 08:52 | dpavlin: I am looking into enabling https / SSL on starman, but I am getting pretty mixed reviews. Do you have an opinion? | |
| 08:53 | or would Plack::Handler::Apache2 be better for SSL? | |
| 08:58 | rangi | id just put nginx doing ssl in front, and proxy to starman |
| 08:58 | it will be a ton faster, then starman can listen on localhost only | |
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| 08:59 | ashimema | ;) you beat me to it rangi |
| 09:00 | back on a laptop yet? | |
| 09:02 | rangi | nope ordered one tho, picking it up when im in the us next month |
| 09:03 | ashimema | ooh.. system76 by any chance ;) |
| 09:03 | rangi | yep |
| 09:03 | ashimema | wish we could get them here. |
| 09:03 | I pretty much always end up getting a windows mechine and nuking windows as my first thing.. | |
| 09:03 | feels very wastful | |
| 09:04 | cait | kivilahtio: dpavlin is not really here, email is working better for him |
| 09:04 | kivilahtio | cait: thanks :D |
| 09:08 | * magnuse | found a norwegian shop that sells laptops sans os: http://www.multicom.no/ |
| 09:09 | kivilahtio | cait: just sent a very formal letter to him :) |
| 09:11 | cait | kivilahtio: you saw what rangi said? |
| 09:12 | kivilahtio | nope :) |
| 09:12 | but this is a quite common case | |
| 09:12 | rangi: I just don't feel very comfortable using two web servers | |
| 09:12 | rangi | you should be anyway |
| 09:13 | because you shouldnt be serving static content with starman | |
| 09:13 | kivilahtio | rangi: so it actually is a good idea performance wise? |
| 09:13 | rangi | yes |
| 09:13 | kivilahtio | erm but does Koha have static content? |
| 09:13 | silly question | |
| 09:13 | rangi | of course it does |
| 09:13 | you knew that eh | |
| 09:14 | kivilahtio | not sure what you mean with static context |
| 09:14 | most of the stuff is pulled from the db | |
| 09:14 | dynamically created | |
| 09:14 | even the start pages | |
| 09:14 | rangi | not the css files, or the js, or all the images |
| 09:14 | kivilahtio | rangi: that's true |
| 09:15 | hmm | |
| 09:15 | rangi | nginx will deliver them magnitudes faster than starman |
| 09:15 | kivilahtio | well ok, configure nginx to proxy .psgi requests to starman |
| 09:15 | rangi | yes |
| 09:16 | kivilahtio | thanks :D |
| 09:16 | you made me a happy boy! | |
| 09:16 | rangi | except they will be /cgi-bin/koha/ requests |
| 09:16 | kivilahtio | if one is not using plack? |
| 09:16 | rangi | nginx will also do ssl faster than starman, and faster than apache too |
| 09:16 | kivilahtio | yeah I have heard of this super awesome nginx |
| 09:16 | rangi | no its still /cgi-bin/koha |
| 09:17 | even under plack | |
| 09:17 | kivilahtio | but I find it hard to believe it could do better than apache2, which is quite tested? |
| 09:17 | rangi | well it does |
| 09:17 | kivilahtio | do you know why? |
| 09:17 | rangi | yes |
| 09:17 | ashimema | haha |
| 09:17 | kivilahtio | :) |
| 09:17 | rangi | apache2 is old and bloated |
| 09:17 | kivilahtio | I can sign that off |
| 09:18 | rangi | theres tons of literature on this already |
| 09:18 | kivilahtio | ok ok |
| 09:18 | ashimema | indeed there is. |
| 09:18 | kivilahtio | don't tell me the short version |
| 09:18 | well you kinda did already :) | |
| 09:18 | "short version".minified | |
| 09:18 | ashimema | at some point i'll finish splitting out the nginx + plack bug as I intended.. |
| 09:19 | kivilahtio | but that is awfull lot of thread hanging around. One thread for nginx, one for starman |
| 09:19 | with apache2 you have the worker threads, with nginx you have worker threads and with starman | |
| 09:19 | but I guess it's ok | |
| 09:20 | rangi | nginx doesnt use threads |
| 09:20 | thats its main point of difference | |
| 09:21 | kivilahtio | ok, I'll go read a book |
| 09:21 | rangi: Thanks for the guidance | |
| 09:22 | rangi | right time for sleep |
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| 09:22 | ashimema | sleep well rangi |
| 09:23 | cait | sleep well |
| 09:24 | kivilahtio | rangi: good night! |
| 09:24 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, kivilahtio. |
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| 10:35 | nlegrand | hiya! |
| 10:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #28 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
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| 11:06 | cait | hi nlegrand |
| 11:51 | ashimema | @later tell oleonard I may need a few more pointers on using classes with datatables sorts when your back |
| 11:51 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:13 | Joubu | ashimema: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ruary/040301.html ? |
| 12:14 | ashimema | Indeed.. problem is when I try to use classes instead of integers my sorting breaks ;) |
| 12:16 | { "asSorting": ["desc", "asc"], "aTargets" : [ "desc" ] } | |
| 12:16 | inside the "aoColumnDefs" block | |
| 12:17 | anywho.. I'll get there in the end I'm sure. | |
| 12:17 | thanks for the pointer though. | |
| 12:19 | Joubu | ashimema: I can take a look if you have a patch somewhere. |
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| 12:43 | barton | morning, all! |
| 12:45 | can someone explain the mechanics of how and when unsent notices generated by overdue_notices.pl are sent via email or output to a file? | |
| 12:45 | morning jessem | |
| 12:45 | JesseM | Morning |
| 12:48 | barton | I have a partner who wants to autoatically generate formfeeds in the file. Nengard has instructions on how to do that by hand, but he doesn't want that. |
| 12:48 | magnuse | barton: have a look at http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43d6c7bc7;hb=HEAD |
| 12:49 | barton | magnuse: yeah, I looked at that -- all it does is call C4::Letters::SendQueuedMessages( { verbose => $verbose, username => $username, password => $password, method => $method } ); |
| 12:50 | And yes, I did look in C4/Letters.pm. | |
| 12:50 | ;-) | |
| 12:57 | sophie_m | barton: it's misc/cronjob/printoverdues.sh that is doing the job |
| 12:58 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.14.x build #28: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/28/ |
| 12:58 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Tranlation updates for 3.14.05 release | |
| 12:58 | * Fridolin Somers: Update release notes for 3.14.5 release | |
| 12:58 | * Fridolin Somers: Increment version for 3.14.5 release | |
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| 13:09 | ashimema | Joubu: thanks for the offer but I think i've gotten to the bottom of the issue now.. It was two things.. A messed up tidy operation that left in a bad class.. |
| 13:09 | and I think DataTables doesn't support what I wanted t do either. | |
| 13:11 | to my reading the 'aaSorting' param cannot be used in combination with class identifiers. | |
| 13:11 | instead you now use 'asSorting', but this doesn't allow choosing which column is the default sort upon initial load | |
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| 13:13 | oleonard | ashimema: I think you can add a class to define initial sort |
| 13:13 | ashimema | :).. I've not found that yet. |
| 13:13 | * oleonard | thinks he saw an example of that in the templates yesterday |
| 13:15 | ashimema | hmm.. on second look.. it does appear to be sorting by the column I want it to upon initialisation.. it's just ignoring my request to sort descending instead of ascending. |
| 13:16 | francharb | hi |
| 13:28 | ashimema | ack.. |
| 13:28 | oleonard | ashimema: The thing I was thinking of is in opac-user.tt in the bootstrap theme |
| 13:29 | Starting at line 638 | |
| 13:29 | It's not exactly a built-in feature, but that part of the script looks for a class on a header cell to determine the default sort | |
| 13:30 | I had to do it that way in that case because so many preferences affect the columns on that page. | |
| 13:30 | ashimema | of course.. |
| 13:30 | that makes sense | |
| 13:30 | it's a bit of a hack.. ut it makes sense | |
| 13:31 | oleonard | It's not a hack, it's clever ;) |
| 13:32 | ashimema | So wasn't wrong that datatables aaSorting doesn't allow class as a selector.. |
| 13:32 | your work around for that is clever | |
| 13:32 | :) | |
| 13:32 | thanks | |
| 13:32 | oleonard | I assume I stole the trick from someone else :) |
| 13:34 | ashimema | beautiful.. |
| 13:34 | that's much better. | |
| 13:35 | edi messages are now readable ;) | |
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| 14:36 | bag | good morning |
| 14:37 | heya ashimema - how's things - guess I got in early enough to catch you one of these days | |
| 14:38 | ashimema | :) Good morning bag. |
| 14:38 | I'm good, been hacking at edi today.. | |
| 14:38 | just squashing commit now for a submission :) | |
| 14:38 | how are you? | |
| 14:38 | bag | HA I've already answered 2 emails about that this morning for Baker and Taylor :P |
| 14:39 | tired | |
| 14:39 | ashimema | wow.. it just started snowing here.. that was unexpected |
| 14:39 | bag | @wunder 93102 |
| 14:39 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 13.3°C (7:39 AM PDT on March 26, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:39 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
| 14:39 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 2.9°C (2:39 PM GMT on March 26, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:40 | bag | and very cool ashimema I'm looking forward to seeing those squashed commits :) |
| 14:41 | ashimema | it'll be nice to get at least one promise off the pile :) |
| 14:46 | barton | oleonard: quick template question: es-ES/includes/opac-bottom.inc is using changelanguage.pl rather than opac-changelanguage.pl -- do you know if there's a bug open on that? (couldn't find anyting obvious in bugzilla, but I'm bad for that) |
| 14:47 | oleonard | barton: Sounds like that set of templates needs to be rebuilt? |
| 14:49 | * barton | doesn't know how templates are built in the first place... |
| 14:49 | oleonard | Koha ships with just the English templates, and then the translations are built from those. |
| 14:49 | barton | mm. I see. |
| 14:50 | oleonard | misc/translator |
| 14:50 | perl translate install es-ES | |
| 14:50 | ...or... perl translate update es-ES | |
| 14:51 | barton | oleonard++ |
| 14:52 | Is that something that needs to happen after every update? | |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Yes |
| 14:53 | barton | Good to know. |
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| 15:18 | cait | barton: it will lead to weird things if you forget... i have been there many many times |
| 15:18 | barton: you absolutely want to update the templates after every koha update :) | |
| 15:21 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha cait barton |
| 15:22 | cait | hi mtompset |
| 15:25 | barton | hi mtompset |
| 15:30 | bag | barton any luck? |
| 15:30 | heya cait!!! I'm enjoying a reese's peanut butter cup right now :) | |
| 15:31 | cait | :) |
| 15:31 | i have 6 left... | |
| 15:31 | so sad | |
| 15:32 | bag | so sad |
| 15:32 | cait | :) |
| 15:32 | bag | 6 left = 6 days? |
| 15:32 | or 2 days? | |
| 15:32 | cait | ah i think tomorrow |
| 15:32 | bag | heh |
| 15:32 | cait | trying to stay away from them today, because we go for sushi later... |
| 15:33 | and they have matcha icecream | |
| 15:33 | bag | that sounds like a good idea for foodz today |
| 15:39 | ashimema | your making me hungry guys |
| 15:40 | barton | bag, oleonard: 'perl translate update es-ES' didn't update es-ES/includes/opac-bottom.inc. |
| 15:40 | I actually ran "perl translate -v update es-ES" | |
| 15:41 | which shows From: /home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/ ... The update seems to be successful. | |
| 15:41 | but ... | |
| 15:41 | -rw-r--r-- 1 koha koha 2553 Dec 27 2012 /home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/es-ES/includes/opac-bottom.inc | |
| 15:42 | running this as the koha user... | |
| 15:42 | cait | barton: you need install |
| 15:42 | update is for updating the po files to get the new strings from master | |
| 15:42 | barton | aha. |
| 15:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #183 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #179 2 days 10 hr ago) |
| 15:43 | bag | aha! |
| 15:43 | thanks cait | |
| 15:43 | barton it was something easy | |
| 15:43 | barton | yeah, *fixing* it is always the easy part ;-) |
| 15:44 | thank god for #koha. | |
| 15:46 | that worked perfectly! | |
| 15:46 | cait++ | |
| 15:46 | bag++ | |
| 15:47 | bag | barton++ |
| 15:49 | barton | and kudos to whoever added i18n to Koha -- good choice of technology. |
| 15:53 | mtompset | Speaking of hungry. It's almost lunch. :) |
| 15:53 | Greetings, ashimema. :) | |
| 15:53 | ashimema | :) |
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| 16:11 | jenkins_koha | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:11 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 16:11 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #183: FIXED in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/183/ |
| 16:11 | Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in updatedatabase | |
| 16:18 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:18 | gaetan_B | hmmm rates and currencies seem a little bit unclear in the manual |
| 16:18 | if my currency is the us dollar | |
| 16:18 | with a rate of 1 | |
| 16:18 | i would expect the rate of the pound to be what 1 dollar will give you in pounds | |
| 16:19 | so roughly 0.5 | |
| 16:19 | but the example in the manual seems to indicate otherwise | |
| 16:19 | mtompset | link? |
| 16:19 | wahanui | link is, like, broken. Also, we don't know what tools you're using to create the marc, but there is probably an option in that tool |
| 16:19 | cait | gaetan_B: i think i would think the same |
| 16:19 | and it hink it should work like that - maybe just the values are outdated on the screenshot? | |
| 16:20 | gaetan_B | so the rate would be what 1 pound gives you in dollars ? so what 1 unit of the currency you are looking at will give you in the currency currently set with a rate of 1 ? |
| 16:20 | i don't think 1 dollar has ever been two pounds | |
| 16:20 | but maybe | |
| 16:20 | mtompset | gaetan_B: However, the rates and exchanges table have no direct link to reality. ;) |
| 16:20 | gaetan_B | indeed |
| 16:20 | cait | gaetan_B: i normally do: 1 EUR in GBP in google and use that value :) |
| 16:21 | mtompset | What was that bug report... *searches* It just made master. |
| 16:21 | cait | you could do a quick test to make sure |
| 16:21 | gaetan_B | i also think this would be what makes sense |
| 16:21 | maybe it's just the screen shot | |
| 16:21 | is the only way to test it to create an order ? | |
| 16:22 | mtompset | bug 11939 |
| 16:22 | cait | hm i think so |
| 16:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11939 minor, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Sample of currencies with a working active value |
| 16:23 | mtompset | I put an attachment on there that is a script of how to grab values from Yahoo! finance, and generate the default currency values. |
| 16:23 | You, of course, have to copy manually, because there is no direct link between language and default currency. | |
| 16:24 | However, cait said on that bug that there's not likely a need to have the same default currencies in every currency file. | |
| 16:24 | gaetan_B | probably not indeed |
| 16:25 | mtompset | but if you wanted to, the script is there. :) |
| 16:26 | That lists the values currently in the table, you change the URL accordingly. :) | |
| 16:33 | wajasu | jcamins: after adding the z:index ???:0 xml to the biblio-koha-indexdefs.xsl for all the existing places that have Subject:p Title:p holdingbranch:p and regenerating the other biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl, i was successful in getting facets working with dom/ICU |
| 16:34 | * mtompset | cheers. :) |
| 16:35 | wajasu | jcamins: if we do such a thing to support facets, should we add corresponding :0 entries to record.abs for the grs world? |
| 16:35 | mtompset | Didn't we announce GRS was being deprecated? |
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| 16:38 | wajasu | yes, i just was to be sure if its OK to diverge the dom stuff, and leave maintaining GRS related configs behind. i'm not sure if all that cql2pqf converter and the ability to use diffferent querytypes using yaz-client is worht preserving. |
| 16:38 | jcamins | wajasu: of course we should. Deprecated != broken. |
| 16:39 | wajasu | thats what I thought. debugging this stuff would be a real pain down the line. |
| 16:39 | mtompset | It does if you want to encourage people to using DOM. ;) |
| 16:40 | jcamins | No worse than debugging any other Zebra configuration. |
| 16:40 | mtompset | It's no different than the logic required to upgrade Koha to a newer version, because it was fixed in that. |
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| 16:50 | gmcharlt | @later tell oleonard I have been completely unable to reproduce the issue you originally reported in bug 11702 - I'd appreciate confirmation that this is an issue for you (without applying the QA follow-up for bug 11694) and if it is, details of your testing environment, including MySQL version |
| 16:50 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11694: [QA Followup] strip out time portion when setting suspension date for... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]33481c403b8c2c193> / Bug 11694: Improve handling of individual hold suspension in Bootstrap OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]56b75f8e39c0aeeed> |
| 16:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1671 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:00 | mtompset | Didn't oleonard recently do a patch related to renamed branch to library in a huge bunch of template files? |
| 17:11 | kivilahtio | thanks everyone! |
| 17:12 | I made nginx + SSL + starman + Plack happen! | |
| 17:12 | IT is so cool! | |
| 17:12 | take care and see u tomorrow! | |
| 17:13 | gmcharlt | kivilahtio++ |
| 17:17 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #397 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:39 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 18:05 | mtompset | @seen oleonard |
| 18:05 | huginn | mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <oleonard> Yes |
| 18:13 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #397: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/397/ |
| 18:13 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11694: Improve handling of individual hold suspension in Bootstrap OPAC | |
| 18:13 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11694: [QA Followup] strip out time portion when setting suspension date for individual hold | |
| 18:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11694 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve handling of individual hold suspension in Bootstrap OPAC |
| 18:16 | talljoy | ack |
| 18:17 | oops...back | |
| 18:18 | magnuse | welcome back talljoy |
| 18:18 | talljoy | thanks magnuse |
| 18:30 | rangi | morning |
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| 18:45 | * wajasu | indexing my production database with new facet :0 support |
| 19:02 | rhcl | I have just discovered an unopened bottle of Lemon Perrier in the staff refrigerator, which I shall now commence drinking. |
| 19:02 | Vive le peuple français! | |
| 19:03 | <if google got that right> | |
| 19:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1671: SUCCESS in 2 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1671/ |
| 19:14 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11694: Improve handling of individual hold suspension in Bootstrap OPAC | |
| 19:14 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11694: [QA Followup] strip out time portion when setting suspension date for individual hold | |
| 19:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11694 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve handling of individual hold suspension in Bootstrap OPAC |
| 19:19 | magnuse | success! \o/ |
| 19:25 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #398 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11806 - Use validation plugin when creating new OAI set <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a23bb5b389d1704e7> / Bug 11877 - Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .live() method <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ce4a806c3cdebd2bd> |
| 19:31 | barton | I have a library that recently upgraded from 3.04 (!!) to 3.12.x. They have a custom script called 'print_call_slips.pl' that queries against 'resrves.printed'. That field has been removed -- can anyone tell me if there is some other way of determining whether information about a hold has been printed or otherwise sent to the library? |
| 19:34 | bag | hmm barton perhaps you could find the bug in bugzilla and then see what that was replaced with? |
| 19:34 | or maybe look in the message_queue | |
| 19:35 | barton | bag: nod -- I was sort of thinking about the message queue. |
| 19:35 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 19:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11738: Use new DataTables include in batch patron modification template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1b8a57c2f8e9e202> / Bug 11878 - Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .toggle() method usage <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b9c7720b482f26eba> |
| 19:35 | bag | magnuse: HI |
| 19:35 | wahanui | hey, bag |
| 19:36 | magnuse | :-) |
| 19:36 | edveal | Does anyone in hear use B&T content cafe for cover art? |
| 19:36 | gmcharlt | barton: I suspect that reserves.printed was also a local customization |
| 19:36 | at first glance, there's no sign that it was in Koha proper | |
| 19:36 | barton | gmcharlt -- that wouldn't surprise me. |
| 19:36 | bag | ah that's probably it gmcharlt |
| 19:37 | barton | The library in question had a *lot* of local customization. |
| 19:37 | bag | yes barton they did do some weird local customizations |
| 19:37 | :P jinx | |
| 19:37 | * barton | feels very jinxed. |
| 19:38 | * gmcharlt | hands barton a Wand of Standardization +1 |
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| 19:39 | mjkerpan | hey there. i just moved my koha databases to a new database using dump/restore |
| 19:39 | barton | Oh, I'll need at least a +4 for these folks. They have an enchanted helmet of density with a THAC0 of 19. |
| 19:39 | gmcharlt | barton++ |
| 19:40 | mjkerpan | now the opac comes up on port 80 as down for maintenance and the admin interface on 8080 is invisible to the lan |
| 19:40 | what gives | |
| 19:40 | gmcharlt | mjkerpan: one thing to check is that koha-conf.xml is pointing to the new database |
| 19:41 | jcamins | mjkerpan: at a guess, you need to tell Apache to listen on port 8080. |
| 19:41 | gmcharlt | another thing to check is that the Apache config is (pace jcamins listening on port 8080) and if relevant to your setup, that ServerName and/or ServerAlias match the name you're using |
| 19:42 | gah | |
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| 19:42 | * gmcharlt | hides face in shame for misusing "pace" |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Also, you might want to run koha-upgrade-schema, since you've restored into a newer version of Koha. |
| 19:42 | mjkerpan | ok |
| 19:43 | cait | ? |
| 19:43 | hi all | |
| 19:43 | gmcharlt | hi cait |
| 19:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1672 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:45 | cait | hi gmcharlt |
| 19:45 | that was an interesting comment to come online to :) | |
| 19:45 | gmcharlt | I timed it especially for you ;) |
| 19:48 | magnuse | hm, is there any reason why there would be more encoding issues under plack than with the "normal" setup? |
| 19:49 | * barton | envisions gmcharlt abusing a bottle of: pace picante salsa |
| 19:49 | * cait | is confused :) |
| 19:51 | barton | cait: gmcharlt hides face in shame for misusing "pace" -- This may be a regional thing -- there's a hot sauce called 'pace' around here. |
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| 19:51 | cait | oh |
| 19:51 | it makes a little more sense now | |
| 19:52 | barton | that, and I threw in an extra ':' as a typo, just for good measure :-) |
| 19:52 | * gmcharlt | was referring to the expression borrowed from Latin, actually |
| 19:52 | gmcharlt | http://languagehat.com/pace/ |
| 19:53 | * barton | ? add:s ex-tra ?? punctuation. #$for *fun. |
| 19:53 | jcamins | barton: wait, let me guess... you're a Perl programmer? |
| 19:54 | mjkerpan | hmm. now it sees it but it doesn't know my old password |
| 19:54 | jcamins | mjkerpan: if you didn't run koha-upgrade-schema, you have to use the system user to run the update. |
| 19:55 | barton | jcamins -- them is *sigils* dammit! |
| 19:55 | mjkerpan | now i have to find them |
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| 19:55 | jcamins | mjkerpan: that's why I suggest using koha-upgrade-schema. |
| 19:55 | barton | jcamins. Yes, why do you aks? |
| 19:55 | s/aks/ask/ | |
| 19:56 | jcamins | barton: no one but a Perl programmer would use that much punctuation. |
| 19:56 | Ah... | |
| 19:56 | except an APL programmer, but none of your punctuation requires a separate keyboard. | |
| 19:56 | barton | jcamins, nope. 7 bit ascii for me. |
| 19:59 | mjkerpan | that worked. thanks. |
| 20:00 | our organziation's treasurer will be happy as he can now have his gaming box back niow that we have a rweal server | |
| 20:01 | magnuse | whoever decided on the norwegian keyboard layout was *not* a perl programmer, i can tell you that |
| 20:01 | mjkerpan | hnow to continue the eternal cataloging project. in 6 months, i've done about 1000 out of our 15000 items |
| 20:02 | magnuse | mjkerpan: sounds like you have something to do the next 7 years, then ;-) |
| 20:02 | gmcharlt | mjkerpan: or you need to get busy on making some clones |
| 20:02 | mjkerpan | i need minions.\ |
| 20:02 | anyway go to go. someone else needs the machine | |
| 20:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11671 - Restructure patron lists add form for improved usability <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e0768ebc64b41fd2> |
| 20:09 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "example yaz-client facet search" (138 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/188 |
| 20:09 | wajasu | just for reference ^^^ |
| 20:12 | magnuse | wajasu++ |
| 20:14 | wajasu | thanks to dcook, tcohen, mtompset, jcamin, etc I finally got the knowledge needed. |
| 20:16 | the trick will be coding pluggable inteface/api so later elastic search folks can leverage the desired facets and map accordingly. | |
| 20:21 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #398: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/398/ |
| 20:21 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11877 - Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .live() method | |
| 20:21 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11806 - Use validation plugin when creating new OAI set | |
| 20:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11877 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .live() method |
| 20:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new OAI set | |
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| 20:25 | magnuse | gah, koha uncer plack does not pick up the installed languages? |
| 20:26 | cait | oh? |
| 20:26 | hm could it be the syspref caching that eythan was investigating? | |
| 20:27 | magnuse | if i run "sudo koha-translate -i nb-NO" it says nb-NO is already installed, but on the I18N syspref tab only en is listed |
| 20:27 | i restarted koha/plack and that did not change anything | |
| 20:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #399 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:28 | cait | magnuse: is it in the database? |
| 20:28 | magnuse | should it be in the database? where? |
| 20:32 | wajasu | i did a less /usr/sbin/koha-translate and the bourne shell script doesn't really talk perl. just runs commands to generate translation in /usr/share/koha/misc/translator |
| 20:33 | koha_translate --list shows installed po files. | |
| 20:33 | cait | magnuse: the language cods should be in the prefs |
| 20:34 | magnuse: look for language? | |
| 20:35 | magnuse | the database has language : sv-SE,en |
| 20:35 | and opaclanguages : sv-SE,en,fr-FR,de-DE,es-ES,ar-Arab | |
| 20:36 | but only en is shown for those two prefs in the web ui | |
| 20:37 | cait | hm still suspecting caching soomehow |
| 20:37 | jcamins: sysprefs + plack problems? | |
| 20:37 | wajasu | you could restart mysql. |
| 20:37 | gmcharlt | memcached would be a better bet |
| 20:38 | magnuse | restarted mysql and memcached, no change |
| 20:40 | jcamins | Restarting Plack would've fixed it. |
| 20:40 | cait: if you see eythian talking about syspref caching, you might point out that there's already a way to disable it. | |
| 20:41 | cait | jcamins: i think he intnds on fixing it |
| 20:41 | he filed a bug | |
| 20:42 | magnuse | i did kill off the plack processes and start them again, but that did not change anything either |
| 20:45 | bug 12002 - if anyone can set it to WORKSFORME that would be nice :-) | |
| 20:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12002 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha does not pick up installed languages when running under Plack |
| 20:47 | magnuse | hylte public library in sweden is now all set to test koha under plack in production for one day - tomorrow will be interesting :-) |
| 20:47 | * magnuse | needs some sleep |
| 20:47 | wajasu | so are TT templates cached? in template cache dir? |
| 20:49 | magnuse | wajasu: yup, looks like it |
| 20:50 | gmcharlt | rangi: bug 11906 |
| 20:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11906 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bad display of utf-8 chars in Patron lists (Datatable) |
| 20:50 | wajasu | probably look at C4/Languages getTranslatedLanguges for how it read/pushed to template. |
| 20:55 | rangi | gmcharlt: hmmm? |
| 20:55 | gmcharlt | a couple patches I'd like you to lok at |
| 20:57 | wajasu | i think we should create some sort of koha command shell. ie. kohash koha> rebuild index biblio etc. and call Koha modules. |
| 20:57 | rangi | ah right |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | wajasu: what would that gain us over koha-rebuild-zebra and other such scripts? |
| 20:58 | rangi | hmm one of the patches is for 12001 .. is that intentional? |
| 20:58 | or should i renumber that when signing off? | |
| 20:59 | gmcharlt | gah |
| 20:59 | wajasu | just having one central command script that would setup Koha::Context, db, etc and allow new command to be added/supported/tested. |
| 20:59 | gmcharlt | both patches are for 11906 |
| 21:00 | rangi | sweet, ill amend the commit message when signing off |
| 21:00 | gmcharlt | thanks |
| 21:00 | wajasu: as opposed to, say, koha-shell? | |
| 21:01 | rangi | yeah, thats what koha-shell does |
| 21:01 | gmcharlt | to be clear, I'm not trying to be too combative, but you seem to be proposing something that already exists |
| 21:01 | I may be mistaken in that perception, of course | |
| 21:01 | wajasu | now i see it. learning. |
| 21:02 | haven't used it yet. | |
| 21:02 | cait | wajasu: there is a koha shell when you use packages... |
| 21:02 | ah my scrolling is broken again | |
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| 21:03 | wajasu | that seems to be in the spirit of what i was wanting :) |
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| 21:03 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 21:03 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (10:00 PM CET on March 26, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:03 | cait | brr |
| 21:03 | wajasu | but more of a prompt like yaz-client. |
| 21:05 | rhcl | @wunder 64507 |
| 21:05 | huginn | rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 14.2°C (4:00 PM CDT on March 26, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM CDT this evening... |
| 21:06 | jatara | @wunder 75025 |
| 21:06 | huginn | jatara: The current temperature in Independence/Hedgcoxe, Plano, Texas is 11.6°C (4:06 PM CDT on March 26, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:06 | rhcl | What, we're warmer than TX? What's going on down there? |
| 21:07 | gmcharlt | @wunder 98199 |
| 21:07 | huginn | gmcharlt: The current temperature in Magnolia - MaxHome, Seattle, Washington is 10.3°C (2:07 PM PDT on March 26, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:07 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:07 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on March 27, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:07 | wajasu | @wunder 33308 |
| 21:07 | huginn | wajasu: The current temperature in Lake Ridge, Fort Lauderdale, Florida is 19.6°C (5:06 PM EDT on March 26, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady). High rip current risk in effect through Thursday evening... |
| 21:07 | jatara | @wunder 21212 |
| 21:07 | huginn | jatara: The current temperature in Towson Weather, Towson, Maryland is 1.5°C (5:07 PM EDT on March 26, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:08 | jatara | It's raining in TX, so that's part of it. |
| 21:08 | rhcl | "High rip current risk" - don't see that much |
| 21:10 | jatara | I am fascinated by the endless cold weather of the DMV area ... it's like the weather is holding a serious grudge. |
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| 21:15 | eythian | hi |
| 21:17 | wajasu: we already have a prompt we can use for that kind of thing. Often it's bash. | |
| 21:18 | wajasu | :) |
| 21:18 | woo bash completion | |
| 21:32 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #399: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/399/ |
| 21:32 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11878 - Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .toggle() method usage | |
| 21:32 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11738: Use new DataTables include in batch patron modification template | |
| 21:32 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11671 - Restructure patron lists add form for improved usability | |
| 21:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11878 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .toggle() method usage |
| 21:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11738 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in batch patron modification template | |
| 21:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11671 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Restructure patron lists add form for improved usability | |
| 21:38 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
| 21:43 | rangi | gmcharlt: signed off now |
| 21:43 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1672: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1672/ |
| 21:43 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11877 - Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .live() method | |
| 21:43 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11806 - Use validation plugin when creating new OAI set | |
| 21:43 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11878 - Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .toggle() method usage | |
| 21:43 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 11738: Use new DataTables include in batch patron modification template | |
| 21:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11877 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .live() method |
| 21:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new OAI set | |
| 21:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11878 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Eliminate use of deprecated jQuery .toggle() method usage | |
| 21:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11738 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in batch patron modification template | |
| 21:43 | gmcharlt | rangi: thanks |
| 21:44 | wajasu | bug 11944 seems like a beast to test. |
| 21:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 |
| 21:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #467 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:44 | Project Koha_Docs build #467: SUCCESS in 6 min 3 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/467/ | |
| 21:44 | Nicole C. Engard: update delete images with permission | |
| 21:45 | eythian | > This bug report will try to fix all UTF-8 problems once and forever! |
| 21:45 | seems hopeful :) | |
| 21:47 | wajasu | it seems like we should a) do a release, b) apply those patches, and c) run in master for some time before a release. especially the 10Kb patch |
| 21:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1673 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1671 4 hr 50 min ago) |
| 21:50 | Starting build #39 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: FIXED) | |
| 21:50 | Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #39: SUCCESS in 31 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.14.x/39/ | |
| 21:50 | Nicole C. Engard: update delete images with permission | |
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| 21:57 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #468 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:57 | Project Koha_Docs build #468: SUCCESS in 2 min 6 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/468/ | |
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| 22:54 | * eythian | notes that you can change the type and description of a syspref from the staff client if you construct a custom request. |
| 22:54 | fixes this. | |
| 22:58 | cait | ew |
| 23:03 | * eythian | wonders if C4::Context should write to the log when a syspref is updated, or if whatever calls it should. |
| 23:03 | eythian | Right now it's the latter, but that doesn't seem the best to me. |
| 23:07 | I think I'll move it to C4::Context->set_preference | |
| 23:07 | otherwise it's copy-paste code. | |
| 23:08 | * dcook | thought the type and description of sysprefs came from the .pref files |
| 23:08 | dcook | And that the database was actually ignored except for local use prefs |
| 23:09 | eythian | The type is used for some things, like how to convert it when saving, and things like that. |
| 23:09 | I think mostly it's meaningless though. | |
| 23:09 | dcook | It should be used for presentation as well, no? |
| 23:09 | cait | we still have local use sysprefs |
| 23:10 | dcook | Yeah, we have heaps of local use sysprefs. Just throwing it out there though :) |
| 23:10 | eythian | yeah |
| 23:10 | dcook | Alas, I think today is a DSpace day... |
| 23:10 | * dcook | goes back to the shadows |
| 23:10 | eythian | it's more a thing that shouldn't really be possible, but is. |
| 23:13 | * eythian | listens to some nice German electronic music for the afternoon. |
| 23:16 | * dcook | enjoys his Scottish post-rock. Just when he thinks he's heard enough, he finds another gem from another album. |
| 23:17 | eythian | that's always good. |
| 23:19 | cait | :) |
| 23:27 | eythian | rats, I need to make a both plackified and gitified installation. |
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