IRC log for #koha, 2014-03-18

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03:06 wajasu hmm
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03:30 mtompset ARG! Got distracted again.
03:30 wajasu ha
03:42 mtompset I'm working on 11213 now, wajasu.
03:44 wajasu well, so many folks spinning on the search.
03:45 mtompset And only one of me. :)
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03:46 mtompset I figure some good will come out of all of this. :)
03:46 Greetings, Oak.
03:46 Thanks for accepting the friend request. :)
03:46 Oak hello mtompset :)
03:46 it's my pleasure. thanks for sending the request :)
03:47 it's great to have #koha friends on Facebook
03:50 wajasu the real issue after my patch is it requires reading through all the result biblios when building facets to get exact counters.  bug 11232 is what i should have worked on.
03:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
04:40 mtompset yes. sucks to figure that out after the fact.
04:41 Anyone here know how to trigger virtual shelves code?
04:59 AH! Lists.
05:00 Well, I need sleep.
05:00 Have a great day, #koha wajasu Oak.
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07:36 reiveune hello
07:38 cait hi reiveune :)
07:38 bbl
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07:40 * magnuse waves
07:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #22 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
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08:02 magnuse bonjour Joubu
08:02 Joubu salut magnuse
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08:17 cait good morning #koha
08:18 magnuse kia ora cait!
08:18 ooh bug 11944
08:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
08:19 cait hi magnuse :)
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08:21 magnuse bonjour sophie_m
08:23 sophie_m bonjour magnuse
08:24 * magnuse wonders if it would be a good idea to have "module maintainers" for the different languages under installer/data/mysql/
08:26 magnuse at least for the smaller languages
08:35 ooh http://www.cyclingforlibraries.org/?page_id=4202 De Montpellier à Lyon du 6 au 14 août 2014
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08:41 fridolin1 hie all
08:45 magnuse bonjour fridolin1
08:45 http://digital.deichman.no/blo[…]awesome-services/
08:46 ashimema mtomptset, regarding bug 11869.. it wasn't me to fail it.. not seen the bug before i'm afraid.
08:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11869 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Add more informations to the member printing pages.
08:47 ashimema morning all
08:49 cait morning :)
08:51 magnuse hiya ashimema
08:51 cait @later tell mtompset - Aleisha Amohia != ashimema, but one of the academy students
08:51 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
08:51 * magnuse hopes everyone had a good journey home from the hackfest
08:52 cait all worked out well, but felt long in the end :)
08:52 ashimema cheers cait
08:53 monin' magnuse. Good journey home for me.. though UK customs wre on high alert so it took a while to get through the airport
08:53 hope your was uneventful :)
08:59 magnuse it was. 50 minutes delay from AMS to OSL, but we had a ~6 hour stop in OSL so it did not matter at all :-)
08:59 and the approach to bodø was the most beautiful one i have ever had
09:00 it's cold here, though...
09:00 @wunder boo
09:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 18, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
09:05 ashimema yikes that's cold
09:05 @wunder stevenage, uk
09:05 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 10.1°C (9:05 AM GMT on March 18, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
09:05 ashimema feels warmer than that here too.. T-Shirt weather :)
09:08 * magnuse sighs
09:08 magnuse nah, 'tis rather pretty here, with the snow and the sun and the clear blue sky...
09:19 Joubu magnuse++
09:19 for http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lle_hackfest_2014
09:20 I have just discovered it!
09:20 but I am wondering if it would be good to have "pushed to master" too
09:24 magnuse probably
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09:24 magnuse i have just copied the numbers from the dashboard
09:33 Joubu magnuse: I added "43 bugs pushed to master"
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09:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #22: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/22/
09:41 David Cook: Bug 11502: make library filter in "Holds To Pull" more precise
09:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11502 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Branch filter in "Holds To Pull" is too fuzzy
09:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #23 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
09:44 magnuse Joubu: cool!
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09:49 cait :)
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10:04 nlegrand Hey #koha o/
10:09 magnuse hiya alex_a_ paul_p nlegrand
10:09 alex_a_ hi magnuse
10:09 wahanui hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
10:10 paul_p hi magnuse. safe back home ?
10:13 cait hi nlegrand and paul_p :)
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10:26 cait magnuse: are you a Koha ninja? :)
10:36 magnuse nope, i'm afraid not
10:37 paul_p: yes, arrived on schedule yesterday
10:37 kohaprofile has a new home: https://github.com/digibib/kohaprofile
10:39 cait :)
10:40 magnuse++
10:44 ashimema magnuse++
10:44 very nice!
10:45 I hope to have a chance to play with that soon.. adding it to my QA process sounds like a good plan
10:48 magnuse ashimema: cool!
10:48 it's just a POC now, but maybe we can grow it into something useful
10:50 ashimema Deffo.. looks like a great start
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10:52 nlegrand magnuse: cool
11:00 magnuse anyone looked at the unicode stuff from Joubu and dpavlin yet?
11:05 Joubu magnuse: did you have a look at scripts in misc/load_testing/benchmark_*?
11:07 magnuse Joubu: no, not really, but it would be cool if they could be combined with my script, to run them on a series of git commits
11:07 Joubu magnuse: yes, that could be quite easy.
11:08 magnuse patches welcome ;-)
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11:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #23: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/23/
11:25 * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9210: wrap long lines in printed hold notices
11:25 * Francesca Moore: Bug 11522: improve formating of self-registration form
11:25 * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Updating about page and history
11:25 * Galen Charlton: Bug 7143: add another name to the about page
11:25 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9788: Improvements when calling GetReservesFromItemnumber
11:25 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9788: (follow-up) removing the alldates parameter from GetReservesFromItemnumber
11:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9210 major, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Automatic carriage return are missing in print letters generated for holds
11:25 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9788: (follow-up) for expirationdate in Letter.pm
11:25 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9788: QA followup
11:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11522 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , self registration formatting
11:25 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9788: (follow-up) Unit tests for changed routine GetReservesFromItemnumber
11:25 * Galen Charlton: Bug 9788: (follow-up) update the bootstrap theme
11:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
11:25 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9788 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber
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11:33 magnuse Viktor++
11:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
11:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 16.0°C (12:39 PM CET on March 18, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
11:40 francharb hi #koha
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12:15 dpavlin on current master, it seems that zebra search in opac dies with ZOOM error 20003 "can't set prefix query" - is there existing bug for that?
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12:17 cait dpavlin!
12:17 wahanui Taking over the world is trivial for this one...
12:17 cait dpavlin: ugh, haven't seen that yet
12:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8168: (follow-up) Use semicolon as default CSV delimiter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]42b9624cbfe652a61> / Bug 8168: Fixing header of non CSV files for overdue notices <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c26c2d8f8fc36dfb>
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12:17 cait are you using queryparser?
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12:18 oleonard Hi #koha
12:18 cait hi oleonard :)
12:19 gmcharlt++
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12:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #392 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:28 Starting build #1667 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:30 wajasu dpavlin: bug 5615 might given you a lead.
12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5615 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED DUPLICATE, ZOOM error 20003 "can't set prefix query" on some authority searches
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12:52 magnuse druthb!
12:52 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
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12:56 druthb Hi, magnuse. :)
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13:02 * oleonard wishes he could go work on Koha in Oslo!
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13:06 magnuse oleonard: that would have been awesome!
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13:09 * jcamins does too!
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13:11 oleonard At least you're qualified jcamins ;)
13:13 jcamins oleonard: except for the whole not-speaking-Norwegian thing. And, probably, not being an EU citizen.
13:13 oleonard Details, details
13:15 magnuse not-speaking-norwegian is not an issue
13:15 please direct any enquiries to the person indicated in the blogpost :-)
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13:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #392: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/392/
13:21 * daniel: Bug 8168: Fixing header of non CSV files for overdue notices
13:21 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8168: (follow-up) Use semicolon as default CSV delimiter
13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8168 minor, P5 - low, ---, daniel.barker.nz, Pushed to Master , ersatz CSV header in attachment of overdue notices sent to administrator
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13:25 tcohen airbnb++
13:25 morning
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13:38 * BT slaps alohalog` around a bit with a large fishbot
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13:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:58 wajasu hiya
13:58 mtompset @later tell cait. Thanks for the clarification.
13:58 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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14:02 wajasu another facets counter idea:
14:02 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "facet counters correct with more mysql indexes and less db queries" (39 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/170
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14:05 magnuse less_db_queries++
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14:13 cait mtompset: i am here ;)
14:14 mtompset Hard to know sometimes, when you are so quiet. :)
14:19 cait i am only here when at least close to a computer :)
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14:26 * magnuse chides cait for nor irc'ing telepathically
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14:28 cait ... sorry :(
14:28 fridolin back, we had a network break
14:28 cait wb fridolin :)
14:28 oleonard I'll be the mailing list Google Glass guy is IRC'ing on his Google Glasses right now :P
14:29 fridolin cait: what does "wb" mean ?
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14:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1667: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1667/
14:30 * daniel: Bug 8168: Fixing header of non CSV files for overdue notices
14:30 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8168: (follow-up) Use semicolon as default CSV delimiter
14:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8168 minor, P5 - low, ---, daniel.barker.nz, Pushed to Master , ersatz CSV header in attachment of overdue notices sent to administrator
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14:30 atheia Hello Kohaites
14:31 oleonard fridolin: It means "welcome back"
14:31 fridolin thanks, I'm noob on irc ;)
14:32 magnuse wb is "welcome back"
14:32 wb?
14:32 wahanui i think wb is welcome back
14:32 magnuse right you are, wahanui
14:32 wahanui OK, magnuse.
14:38 mtompset wb is also http://youtu.be/5VlGyMG0ksg :)
14:38 wahanui okay, mtompset.
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14:48 barton morning all!
14:51 Is there any documentation of how bugs in bugzilla link to http://bugs.koha-community.org?
14:53 gmcharlt not quite sure what you mean
14:53 you can do
14:53 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=XXX
14:53 huginn 04Bug XXX: could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
14:53 gmcharlt to link to bug XXX
14:54 if you add a comment to a bug, the phase "bug XXX" will get hyperlinked
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14:54 barton Are individual bugs tagged?
14:54 magnuse barton: what do you mean by "tagged"?
14:55 barton as in, are there git tags created for bugs.
14:56 the same way that you would tag a release.
14:56 gmcharlt no
14:56 cait network_fail--
14:56 gmcharlt mainly, there is a convention that the first line of a commit message will contain the bug number
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14:58 barton how would I figure out patch dependencies?
14:59 gmcharlt the "depends on" and "blocks" fields in a BZ report are often used to express dependencies
14:59 barton gmcharlt++
14:59 cait there is also a tree view
14:59 if you look there
15:00 barton cait: that sounds useful -- where would I find it?
15:01 cait there is a link when a bug has a dependency
15:01 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9016 < example
15:01 huginn 04Bug 9016: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Multi transport types for notices
15:01 barton oic: dependency tree /graph.
15:01 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]graph.cgi?id=9016
15:02 barton cait++
15:02 * cait waves at gmcharlt :)
15:02 * gmcharlt waves back
15:03 cait when does the conf start?
15:03 gmcharlt there's a preconference today, but the conf proper starts tomorrow
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15:12 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner
15:14 cait ah, have fun :)
15:16 wajasu what if i code it so i get correct facet counts with a certain syspref set size maxResultsRetrievedForFacets, and retrieve/inspect those raw records for facet counters.  if the results set size is > than that max, i just don't show facet counters.
15:17 that could take care of the common result set case most of the time if the max is set at 1000, and could be adjusted for big hardware sites.
15:19 if my library had a small inventory, and endusers, i might just inspect all raw() records, but if my site is huge (millions), but have big hardware, i might just set max to 10000.
15:20 and are we using, or does zebra employ libmemcached?
15:21 to cache the result set records in RAM.
15:23 a 1million 16K marcxmls might be around 16GB, and a big library could run with large amount of ram these days.
15:30 mtompset No idea...
15:31 barton: Sometimes people forget to set those fields up, read all the comments. ;)
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15:46 markvandenborre I'm tring to install koha here for the first time, on Debian wheezy
15:46 cait hi markvandenborre
15:47 markvandenborre ah, I found some more info
15:48 cait you should look for apackage installation
15:48 if you want to test Koha that's the easiest way
15:48 packages?
15:48 wahanui packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
15:48 markvandenborre I already saw that info
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15:48 markvandenborre but either there is something missing or something wrong
15:48 I also found http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.debian;hb=HEAD
15:50 but it seems http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian is more up to date
15:50 and cleaner
15:50 cait hm not sure where you ran into a problem
15:50 but someone here might be able to help
15:50 markvandenborre that document seems to suggest that some basic installation interface will be available
15:51 some web interface, so presumably on port 8080 as per that document
15:52 but this is the output of netstat -tan:
15:52 http://pastie.org/8947852
15:52 cait hm not sure if you run the web installer with packages
15:52 but i think you do
15:52 sorry, i can't read netstat
15:53 the web installer woudl be the very last step
15:53 and he url is the url of the staff interface
15:53 and i think what that is depends on how you set up the conf file used by the packages
15:54 mtompset markvandenborre: Your netstat doesn't have port 80 listening.
15:54 oh there it is... nevermind. :)
15:54 markvandenborre yeah, ipv6...
15:54 mtompset Why is it only tcpip6?
15:54 markvandenborre by default on wheezy, it seems...
15:55 it will listen on v4 also, but for some reason it doesn't show up
15:55 mtompset but the mysql is on tcp? Strange.
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15:57 cait hey khall!
15:57 markvandenborre mtompset: the debian package instructions are somewhat unclear...
15:57 cait congratulations! :)
15:57 markvandenborre * Listen on port 8080: $EDITOR /etc/apache2/ports.conf
15:57 without any context...
15:58 mtompset e3xcuse me... chauffeur duty.
15:58 markvandenborre so should I just reconfigure apache to listen on 8080 like that? I guess so...
15:58 cait markvandenborre: you already created your instance, right?
15:59 markvandenborre yes, and apparently I missed the reference in the wiki to this readme document
15:59 cait and you didn't create a koha-sites.conf
15:59 markvandenborre no, not yet
15:59 cait ah
15:59 before you can go to the web installer
15:59 * barton waves at khall
15:59 cait you have to create the instance
15:59 markvandenborre it's not clear to me at this point in the process if I have to disable apache listening on port 80
16:00 cait sorry, i might be getting confused here :)
16:00 you need both
16:00 80 and 8080
16:00 wahanui 8160
16:00 markvandenborre ok
16:00 wahanui: :-)
16:00 wahanui markvandenborre: sorry...
16:00 cait 80 is the opac = public catalog
16:00 8080 is the web installer and the staff interface, where you do circulation and all things librarians do
16:00 markvandenborre thx for mentioning that
16:01 I realised I would need that eventually, but the koha side is still a bit of a black box to me
16:01 cait wahanui is our beloved bot - don't let him irritate you
16:03 markvandenborre cait: bot or not, thought he was quite funny
16:03 :-)
16:04 when the web installer asks me for a user and pass
16:04 (I was probably asked to enter something yesterday evening when fiddling with it)
16:04 is that the sql user and pass?
16:04 or the biblioserver user and pass?
16:05 barton markvandenborre: I've been working with koha for about 4 months now -- it is presently a very dark grey box. If I hold a *really* brigh light up to it, I find that it is vaguely translucent.
16:05 markvandenborre or something else?
16:05 barton: thank you for the encouragement :p
16:06 aha, the sql user and pass!
16:06 cait it's in the koha-conf.xml
16:06 did you find it?
16:07 barton Actually, that's not true... there are parts of it that are fairly transparent.
16:07 cait sounds a bit like the description of an art object :)
16:07 markvandenborre yes, I did
16:08 barton markvandenborre: try
16:08 markvandenborre I figure there is some i18n support for koha
16:08 I did
16:08 it worked :p
16:08 I should definitely update the wiki too...
16:09 barton egrep '^..(user|pass|database)' koha-conf.xml
16:09 this will give you the username and password to log into koha.
16:09 markvandenborre yeah, did that, the only confusion was between the two different ones that are in there
16:09 so I tried both, and one set (the sql set) worked
16:10 what about i18n? is there some magic step I need to perform to make other options than English appear?
16:10 cait kind of
16:10 try and look for the koha-translate command :)
16:11 tcohen cait: could you try to register for kohacon14 and tell me if it works? :-D
16:12 cait hehe
16:12 as a test i could - if you remove me again after?
16:12 tcohen hmm
16:12 the trick didn't work
16:13 markvandenborre hm, http://translate.koha-community.org/ seems to indicate the most important stuff is translated
16:13 cait what language are you looking for?
16:13 barton markvandenborre: the port settings are in koha-httpd.conf.
16:13 just in case you were wondering.
16:14 cait barton: the wiki says if you don't create one it defaults to 8080 and 80 - i think that's what happened here, but haven't used the packages much yet myself :(
16:14 but tcohen is a packages expert!
16:14 *hides*
16:14 markvandenborre cait: nl, dutch
16:14 cait ah
16:14 i think that shoudl work
16:14 markvandenborre now I just need to check how to make koha understand the po/mo files files
16:15 cait markvandenborre: look for koha-translate
16:15 markvandenborre looking at it
16:15 wahanui looking at it is exactly what I was hoping for. :)
16:15 cait you don't need to more than run it with the right laguage code
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16:16 barton cait: I've never done a package install myself. (Thinks that perhaps I should try this in my copius free time)
16:17 markvandenborre cool, it's working
16:18 barton markvandenborre: wunderbar! (deutsch not duch, but hey, they're related)
16:18 ashimema barton.. you should deffo play with packages.. they rock
16:19 cait markvandenborre: cool :)
16:19 going to catch the last bits of sun, cya later all
16:19 ashimema enjoy cait
16:19 reiveune bye
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16:20 barton has anyone seen eythian?
16:20 tcohen @later tell wizzyrea I need to add recaptcha or something to the form, its been on for some minutes and got several SPAM
16:20 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
16:20 markvandenborre marc21 or unimarc?
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16:21 markvandenborre I seem to remember one is more common in .eu, the other in .us
16:21 ?
16:21 * markvandenborre is reading through wikipedia
16:21 barton markvandenborre: marc21: US.
16:21 markvandenborre does it make sense for me then to do unimarc?
16:21 (.be)
16:22 as in: one or the other dialect better supported in koha?
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16:22 markvandenborre I'm playing with this for a public music school library
16:22 barton not sure off hand.
16:22 where is '.be'?
16:22 markvandenborre Belgium, that tiny spot around Brussels
16:23 barton aha.
16:23 markvandenborre ok, guess I'll go with unimarc
16:23 barton I've never worked with unimarc, so I'll let others chime in there.
16:24 @seen eythian
16:24 huginn barton: eythian was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 19 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <eythian> hi cait
16:25 markvandenborre I notice there's a few things marked as "mandatory"
16:25 in step 3 - selecting default settings
16:25 barton @later tell eythian ping me when you get in. Repeatedly ;-)
16:25 huginn barton: The operation succeeded.
16:25 markvandenborre Defines default message transports for sending item due messages and
16:25 advance notice messages through email and SMS.
16:25 (sample_notices_message_transports)
16:25 stuff like that
16:25 wahanui stuff like that is why I want to chew people's legs off sometimes
16:26 markvandenborre most of this library is digital anyway, so not sure about it
16:26 calm down, wahanui-san, even if you're a bot
16:26 I'm a vegetarian, you wouldn't find much interesting flesh on my bones :p
16:26 barton heh.
16:27 oleonard No no, it's the vegetarians who are especially delicious.
16:28 markvandenborre ouch :p
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16:31 harry hello i made a recent installation of koha. when i tried to access the admin page via lynx it takes me to the maintenance page . kindly advice . thanks
16:33 Joubu harry: update your database with perl installer/data/mysql/en/updatedatabase.pl or go on the staff interface
16:34 harry joubu > is that the command i can use in the terminal to update
16:36 Joubu harry: is it a question?
16:36 mtompset markvandenborre: Did you get your problem solved?
16:36 Joubu harry: go on your staff interface
16:36 ok...
16:37 markvandenborre mtompset: I got it installed, had to create a library, a patron category, then myself in the admin interface
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16:37 vfernandes hi :)
16:37 mtompset Good. Because I was going to suggest reading the Ubuntu instructions for clarity. ;)
16:37 markvandenborre koha _might_ be a bit overkill for our situation, but I'm not dealing with this $&#! iTunes thing anymore
16:37 vfernandes it's possible to know the new features/developments for Koha 3.16?
16:38 markvandenborre my predecessor (praise be unto him?) thought it was a good idea to dump all pdfs of the school library into iTunes
16:38 mtompset WHAT?!
16:38 markvandenborre then he noticed he couldn't scale sharing of that over 5 computers
16:39 so he started manually walking around with a usb stick for the metadata (he did manage to use a network share for the actual data)
16:39 but then he bumped into a problem...
16:39 different versions of iTunes don't speak the same metadata language
16:39 mtompset DOH!
16:39 markvandenborre so he started to do some kind of strange export
16:40 that he can't seem to reproduce anymore
16:40 so the school library would still work on the old machines with an older iTunes version
16:40 that was only part of my inheritance
16:40 other things being a boss who thinks 250€ a year for backups of the school administration is a lot of money
16:41 part of the cabling working only at 10Mbit half duplex
16:41 the optical uplink to the rest of the city being quite shoddy
16:42 etcetera
16:42 mtompset Breath deeply.
16:42 markvandenborre safe to say, koha could only be an improvement over this
16:42 mtompset 856$u.
16:42 856$u.
16:42 host the PDF's somewhere.
16:42 856$u.
16:42 :)
16:43 markvandenborre 856$U. ?
16:43 wahanui 856$u is settable.
16:43 mtompset It's a MARC field that stores a URI.
16:43 So, you search in the OPAC.
16:43 Get a result.
16:43 Look at the result detail.
16:44 Click on the link (generated by the 856$u).
16:44 And BAM, you have your PDF. :)
16:44 oh wait...
16:44 you chose unimarc?
16:45 It might not be the same them.
16:45 I'm used to MARC21. :)
16:45 markvandenborre mtompset: still, thank you for the hint
16:46 mtompset Anyone want an easy sign off? bug 11253. ;)
16:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11253 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , tools/inventory.pl output_pref ignores 'iso' parameter passed
16:49 markvandenborre mtompset: trying to find my way around it
16:49 vfernandes it's possible to know the new features/developments for Koha 3.16??
16:49 mtompset documentation?
16:49 wahanui somebody said documentation was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
16:50 mtompset That may help, markvandenborre.
16:51 also, http://bywatersolutions.com/se[…]/tutorial-videos/
16:56 * markvandenborre is looking into providing an easy, minimal interface for our library worker to deal with
16:56 markvandenborre minimal, as in: don't want her to see any field she doesn't need to use
17:00 but an ISMN field for example would be really useful to have
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17:09 harry i am done installing koha and i tried to use lynx to access the admin page and that redirected me to maintenance page . please advice
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17:11 markvandenborre harry: 17:33:33 < Joubu> harry: update your database with perl installer/data/mysql/en/updatedatabase.pl or go on the staff interface                                                         clrh
17:11 I'm sorry I can't help you much further than that, but I guess that means go to port 8080
17:11 and log in there
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17:13 harry <markvandenborre> do you mean i can use my regular broswer from another computer instead of lynx to configure the staff client for the first time
17:16 mtompset harry: Only if the other machine knows how to browse to your server.
17:16 A lot of people don't have the DNS set up at that time.
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17:18 indradg hi all
17:19 need a spot of help
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17:20 indradg i'm wrestling with the 22to30.pl script, and something funky is happening my issues tables in the old db has ~13k entries after running the script, the *new* issues table only has ~8k entries
17:21 structurally the old 2.2.5 issues and new 3.14 issues tables are almost identical except for the 'issuedate' field in the new one
17:21 harry <mtompset> is there something i am doing wrong with lynx , why am i ending up with the maintenance page
17:23 mtompset are you using a name or a port?
17:23 harry name
17:24 mtompset so did you put the OPAC name or Staff name?
17:24 lynx http://library-admin.mysite.com/
17:25 Oops... I didn't realize mysite.com was real.
17:25 remember library.blah.blah is not the same as library-admin.blah.blah
17:26 harry mtompset> so the DNS should be setup even to access via lynx ?
17:26 mtompset if you are using lynx on your own server, you can edit the /etc/hosts
17:26 for example, http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_an_IP_Address
17:27 harry DOMAIN=".myDNSname.org" INTRAPORT="80" # use 8080 for an IP-based install. INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" OPACPORT="80" OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX=""
17:27 can the intra and opac port be the same
17:28 mtompset YES... that's why the INTRASUFFIX is "-intra"
17:29 harry i never used intraprefix , should it be filled with the instance name
17:29 mtompset you put the same port and no suffix?!
17:29 That's why it is failing.
17:30 harry ok let me change
17:30 and then i need to create the instance again right
17:30 mtompset changing it won't fix it after the fact.
17:30 You'll need to DELETE the instance, and then create it again, yes.
17:31 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]kages#koha-remove
17:31 harry ok ill look into that
17:31 thanks a ton
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17:37 pianohacker hi #koha
17:38 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker.
17:38 pianohacker hi mtompset
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17:54 cait hey pianohacker
17:54 wahanui rumour has it pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems
17:57 * mtompset grins, "Dune sucks!"
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18:09 barton back
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18:36 indradg @wunder
18:36 huginn indradg: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
18:37 indradg @wunder kolkata
18:37 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 27.0°C (11:50 PM IST on March 18, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
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19:06 mtompset Joubu: I discovered that Ukrainian currency symbol default is wrong in Koha.
19:07 GRN is not a valid currency code.
19:08 barton @seen eythian
19:08 huginn barton: eythian was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 2 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <eythian> hi cait
19:08 cait mtompset: we have an ukrainian currency symbol?
19:08 mtompset uk-UA.
19:09 ru-RU.
19:09 both currency files have GRN.,
19:09 cait ah
19:09 mtompset I figured out it was UAH.
19:09 cait they are a bit older
19:09 not sure if someone currently maintains them
19:09 mtompset I'm about to bug report to maintain ALL of them. ;)
19:10 They lack consistency.
19:10 I'm just tweaking some auto-building code I am writing, which will grab current values from Yahoo! Finance. :)
19:28 wajasu is anyone coding facets support using zebra.  maybe dcook? bug 11232
19:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
19:29 mtompset is active a reserved keyword?
19:30 I can't figure out why my code has $active = 1 all the time.
19:30 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Why is $active always 1?" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/171
19:31 mtompset Where's my obvious mistake?
19:33 OH GOODNESS! == vs. eq.
19:33 Stupid multiple languages mixed up in my head bug.
19:35 pianohacker oh haha yeah
19:35 I write so much JS I mix that up too
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19:42 mtompset es-ES == spain?
19:43 cait spanish
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19:47 pianohacker is IS what?
19:51 rhcl mtompset: druthb informed me that there is a language code for Klingon too.
19:51 indradg lol
19:51 mtompset What do you mean "is IS what?"?
19:51 rhcl or was that a Marc record? druthb, please refresh my memory
19:52 druthb There is a language code for Klingon, yes.
19:52 "tlh", IIRC
19:52 rhcl ah, indeed.
19:52 * magnuse would guess IS = Icelandic
19:52 magnuse ...if we are talking about languages
19:54 rhcl wonder if there is a currency symbol for latinum?
19:55 mtompset http://www.loc.gov/standards/i[…]/code_changes.php
19:55 tlh is klingon.
19:55 druthb rhcl:  Doesn't appear to be.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]tional_currencies
19:56 rhcl hummm, none of the fictional currencies have a symbol
19:58 is there a unicode code for BTC?
19:59 ah, apparently not
19:59 druthb https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_symbol
20:00 mtompset Seriously? A discussion about REAL currency and problems in Koha has degenerated to FICTIONAL ones? :P
20:00 rhcl BTC is virtual but certainly real
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20:04 wizzyrea hi
20:05 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea then wanders off into the night
20:08 wizzyrea did you really expect that this channel would be all business all the time?
20:08 seriously?
20:08 no wonder it's quiet so much now.
20:19 mtompset Because we're having too much fun in real life? ;)
20:23 wizzyrea: And of course not.
20:23 Just staring at currency stuff most of the day driving me crazy.
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20:26 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
20:26 tcohen hi mtompset
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20:58 tcohen wizzyrea++
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21:05 cait @later tell ashimema maybe 11952 is interesting for the plack/nginx bug
21:05 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
21:06 cait hi tcohen :)
21:07 tcohen hi
21:07 wahanui hola, tcohen
21:16 mtompset cait: I can see where you are coming from, but consistency in terms of currencies listed in all of them, and no truncates or foreign key turn offs would be good. I attached a script for file generation.
21:16 cait ?
21:16 not sure i understand
21:16 i agree that the sql should be similar
21:17 but the currencies listed could differ I think
21:19 I think in a german sample file RUB and UAH would not make much sense
21:23 eythian hi
21:26 cait hi eythian
21:26 indradg ok! my issues migration problem is solved! :-) the itemnumber and borrowernumber FK constraints were are work, and hence the mismatch in number of records
21:26 cait i commented on your bug, hopefully it was not total nonsense
21:26 * indradg waves as wizzyrea
21:27 wizzyrea hallo
21:27 indradg hi
21:30 eythian cait: saw that.
21:31 wizzyrea @quote random
21:31 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #104: "<Brooke> not people quoting me *again*" (added by druthb at 01:07 AM, November 17, 2010)
21:31 cait @quote random
21:31 huginn cait: Quote #256: "<jcamins> Cool. New and spectacularly revised deduper works. And it is, if I may say, a super deduper." (added by wizzyrea at 03:33 AM, June 05, 2013)
21:31 cait @quote random
21:31 huginn cait: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010)
21:31 wizzyrea @quote random
21:31 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #268: "<jcamins> windows-- <jcamins> ie-- <oleonard> You'll have to go elsewhere if you're looking to pick a fight jcamins" (added by gmcharlt at 06:40 PM, July 31, 2013)
21:32 wizzyrea ^ hahahaha
21:32 cait *giggles*
21:33 eythian http://i.imgur.com/u3S72a2.jpg <-- Germans, eh
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21:37 cait eythian: hmpf?
21:38 eythian wahanui: germs
21:38 wahanui germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg
21:38 eythian wahanui: germs
21:38 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
21:39 cait eythian: you are really being mean tonight... tsk.
21:39 eythian heh
21:40 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
21:41 cait going to bed now
21:41 * cait blames eythian
21:41 cait ;)
21:41 eythian it's probably true :)
21:41 cait night all!
21:41 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back.
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21:55 wizzyrea @quote random
21:55 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #79: "<robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash." (added by gmcharlt at 01:53 AM, June 24, 2010)
21:57 eythian that totally makes no sense out of context.
22:05 wizzyrea sure it does.
22:05 @quote random
22:05 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #110: "chris: im rm, not god" (added by kf at 10:20 AM, December 08, 2010)
22:05 wizzyrea @quote random
22:05 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #283: "<ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P" (added by mtompset at 01:29 AM, November 01, 2013)
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22:24 wajasu dcook: were you persuing bug 11232? where to do you think it stands?
22:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
22:26 dcook wajasu: Perusing? I'm the one who reported it :p
22:27 As far as I know, no one is working on it.
22:29 wajasu i had dont a patch that doesn't use zebra for facets, but then i have to get the result record and inspect all those marcxml chunks, and if a query has a huge result set (10000 plus) it might be a burden for the server.
22:29 i was going to give coding the facets a try to see if that would be better.
22:29 to zebra
22:31 dcook I don't really follow what you're saying, but by all means try it out. All the info you should need should be in the comments on that bug report.
22:31 wajasu well, i might give it a shot then.
22:32 didn't want to work something someone else was working on.
22:32 dcook I suppose you never know. I don't really have any idea what anyone is working on except maybe eythian :p
22:32 As for me...nothing too exciting on my front.
22:33 Hoping to actually test patches and maybe get more local patches into the community, but nothing in terms of major enhancements
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