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01:37 | dcook | Interesting... |
01:37 | wahanui | it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
01:37 | dcook | I can't get slips to print in Chrome |
01:39 | The new tab opens and it loads for a moment before kaput | |
01:39 | * dcook | thinks he has had this problem before... |
01:55 | dcook | Mmm, window.close executes too soon... |
01:57 | Because Chrome doesn't use the system print dialogue by defualt.. | |
01:57 | default* | |
02:07 | wizzyrea | I think that's fixed in later versions - this is 3.8? |
02:07 | dcook | 47 commits behind master |
02:07 | * dcook | rebases and tries again |
02:08 | wizzyrea | mm 47 is pretty close |
02:11 | dcook | Bleargh bcrypt dependency |
02:11 | * dcook | will have to wait to check the absolute master |
02:11 | wizzyrea | I think you mean "Yay! Bcrypt dependency!" |
02:11 | dcook | hehe |
02:11 | Overall, yes | |
02:11 | wizzyrea | better passwords! |
02:11 | dcook | Very very much yes |
02:11 | I'm pretty amped about it actually :) | |
02:12 | wizzyrea | you reminded me that I haven't updated my master in aaaaages |
02:13 | dcook | Hmm... |
02:13 | eythian | I haven't updated master packages in a while, too. Might do that now. |
02:13 | dcook | Perhaps you're right.. |
02:14 | Wth.. | |
02:16 | Hmm weirdness | |
02:16 | * dcook | thinks master is no better |
02:16 | dcook | It looks like a lot of people are hacking around it using timers |
02:16 | wizzyrea | there are bug reports about window.close and chrome |
02:17 | dcook | Which is...a bit ugh |
02:17 | wizzyrea | yea, wtf |
02:17 | dcook | bugzilla bug reports or Chrome bug reports? |
02:17 | wizzyrea | chrome |
02:18 | dcook | Where'd you find those? |
02:19 | wizzyrea | the problem is that it closes too fast? |
02:20 | dcook | Pretty much |
02:21 | window.print seems to open that fancy Google print webpage rather than the system dialogue | |
02:21 | wizzyrea | can you turn that off? I thought there was an option... |
02:21 | "use system print dialog" or somesuch | |
02:21 | dcook | I think you can by doing...ctrl shift p or something |
02:22 | But I don't think there's any way of prompting it from the start | |
02:25 | wizzyrea | hm yea that's pretty silly |
02:26 | http://lifehacker.com/5835838/[…]shy-print-preview | |
02:26 | oh lifehacker, I can never be mad at you. | |
02:27 | chromium, incidentally, doesn't *seem* to have the preview thingie | |
02:27 | but it's ubuntu so who knows | |
02:27 | dcook | Interesting |
02:27 | wahanui | Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
02:27 | dcook | I was thinking of trying that out |
02:27 | So just Chrome, eh? | |
02:27 | wizzyrea | maybe? |
02:27 | wahanui | rumour has it maybe is a momentaneous error |
02:27 | wizzyrea | momentaneous. |
02:27 | that is the best word mashup ever. | |
02:28 | dcook | hehe |
02:28 | wizzyrea | as with most internet articles of that nature, the comments are more instructive than the article. |
02:30 | but yea, launch chrome with --args --disable-print-preview | |
02:30 | and see if it's better/ | |
02:31 | dcook | It might be |
02:31 | But I dont' think that's really a feasible solution to the problem | |
02:32 | lol | |
02:32 | If you hit shift + ctrl + p fast enough, you can get the system dialogue box | |
02:32 | wizzyrea | dunno, I know of libraries who roll an entire portable firefox, just so they can have seamless receipt printing :P |
02:32 | adding a couple of arguments on the end of the shortcut seems not extreme compared to that. | |
02:33 | dcook | That is...mind boggling |
02:33 | As for the shortcut...I could see a few different responses | |
02:34 | One, using the system dialogue box wouldn't be desirable all the time | |
02:34 | I know I quite like it most of the time | |
02:34 | But that might mean that they set up separate shortcuts | |
02:34 | One for Koha and one for normal stuff | |
02:34 | (Which is a bit disturbing to me as well) | |
02:35 | Sure enough, that flag works | |
02:35 | wizzyrea | well, the chrome preview, imo, is nonstandard app behaviour |
02:36 | dcook | True, but Google has a bit more pull than Koha, me thinks |
02:36 | wizzyrea | to me, it seems it could be *more* confusing because it's unexpected. |
02:36 | i.e. works differently to every other app | |
02:36 | * dcook | is fairly used to it now |
02:36 | wizzyrea | but for a user... |
02:36 | dcook | I wonder what a regular user prints these days |
02:37 | wizzyrea | receipts :P |
02:37 | dcook | Well, that's a librarian |
02:37 | Librarians love printing things | |
02:37 | wizzyrea | but that's your user right? |
02:37 | dcook | It could be |
02:37 | Let's say yes | |
02:37 | * dcook | was thinking the average joe |
02:37 | wizzyrea | you don't want to break it or make it slow for firefo |
02:37 | firefox | |
02:37 | dcook | I think most people expect an app (like Koha) to be compatible with everything |
02:38 | True | |
02:38 | We could use browser detection although that's not very optimal either | |
02:38 | wizzyrea | mmm no |
02:38 | what does the user actually lose by disabling chrome's nonstandard print preview? | |
02:38 | dcook | Ah, but you're speaking reason, wizzyrea |
02:38 | Users aren't always reasonable | |
02:39 | wizzyrea | kek |
02:39 | dcook | They might not lose anything, but disabling it just for Koha... |
02:39 | I wonder if there are times in Koha where a person would want to use the nonstandard print preview | |
02:40 | wizzyrea | it has always seemed superfluous to me |
02:40 | as there is still a "print preview" option in the menu | |
02:40 | dcook | Is there? |
02:40 | I haven't noticed one in ages | |
02:41 | wizzyrea | hm actually you're right there isn't one, I stand corrected |
02:41 | dcook | I don't see it in Chrome or Firefox |
02:41 | wizzyrea | I had clicked on firefox by mistake - there is definitely one in fireox |
02:41 | dcook | or IE |
02:41 | wizzyrea | firefox |
02:41 | dcook | Oh? |
02:41 | wizzyrea | (on ubuntu) |
02:42 | dcook | O_o |
02:42 | Which Firefox do you use on Ubuntu | |
02:42 | In any case, brb ;) | |
02:42 | wizzyrea | 24 |
02:42 | mtompset | firefox on ubuntu? I hope this is a desktop machine other than the koha server. :P |
02:43 | wizzyrea | why would you run firefox on a koha server. |
02:43 | mtompset | dcook: Don't diss the unreasonable users. ;) |
02:43 | Because someone might be running a desktop version of ubuntu with koha installed. | |
02:44 | wizzyrea | it actually seems more unreasonable to me to expect users to work effectively with a nonstandard print menu |
02:44 | * mtompset | thinks of India and its love of LiveDVDs. |
02:44 | wizzyrea | http://i.imgur.com/V4XkaTal.jpg |
02:45 | chromium on ubuntu uses the standard print dialog. | |
02:46 | mtompset: that would be silly to do for anything other than development. | |
02:46 | and yes, I do in fact "run" a koha on a desktop machine. For testing and fixing. | |
02:46 | but not for anything other than that. | |
02:47 | mtompset | wizzyrea: development or perhaps testing... but yes, I agree it is silly to think of otherwise. :) |
02:50 | eythian | rangi: C4::Breeding needs a database to load, are you aware of a patch for that floating around, or should I make one? |
02:52 | rangi | hmm that must be new/changed |
02:52 | nope | |
02:52 | * dcook | wonders if he's broken something |
02:54 | eythian | dcook: it's quiet possibly a dependency |
02:54 | *quite | |
02:55 | I'm about to find out | |
02:56 | * dcook | hurries off to a late lunch in any case |
02:56 | eythian | It's C4::Auth |
02:58 | or maybe it isn't... | |
03:03 | mtompset | What's C4::Auth? |
03:05 | eythian | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=C4::Auth%20koha |
03:14 | mtompset | Ha ha ha... You were mumbling about C4::Auth, and I was wondering about your mumbling. I have an idea about C4::Auth. :P |
03:17 | eythian | the thing that's breaking the test cases if you run them without a database. |
03:17 | turns out it is C4::Auth, indirectly. | |
03:24 | It's strange that so much of the stuff in the Koha namespace is lacking copyright headers. That seems like a step backwards. | |
03:25 | wizzyrea | indeed |
03:25 | * wizzyrea | might know some folks who could add it, if we knew who to credit. |
03:26 | eythian | git knows. |
03:26 | wizzyrea | TRUE |
03:26 | eythian | scraping that together and nagging them on-list might be a good thing to do :) |
03:26 | wizzyrea | bad form for someone else to add it eh? |
03:27 | eythian | A small bit, but also they'll just do the same thing again. |
03:28 | they also lack documentation. | |
03:28 | (by-and-large, anyway.) | |
03:29 | pastebot | "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Files with no copyright" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/241 |
03:48 | dcook | Mmm, I thought I noticed some copyright missing from a few.. |
03:49 | * eythian | names and shames |
03:49 | dcook | hehe |
04:08 | mtompset | That was an impressive one-liner! |
04:09 | eythian++ | |
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04:20 | Oak | me waves |
04:21 | oh well | |
04:21 | hello mtompset | |
04:21 | mtompset | Greetings, Oak. |
04:27 | dcook | Random reminder to people that they should let their banks know that they're going overseas... |
04:27 | * dcook | has never had a credit card frozen but imagines it must suck |
04:42 | mtompset | That's why my personal banker is on my mailing list. :) |
05:14 | eythian | awesome, with the patch on bug 11013, tests pass again. Now who wants to sign it off for me? :) |
05:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11013 normal, P3, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Tests broken by new crypto stuff |
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05:15 | eythian | ah, cait wants to, perfect timing! |
05:15 | cait: bug 11013 is looking for you ;) | |
05:17 | cait | hm? |
05:18 | bug11013= | |
05:18 | ? | |
05:18 | eythian | <huginn> Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11013 normal, P3, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Tests broken by new crypto stuff |
05:18 | huginn | 04Bug 11013: normal, P3, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Tests broken by new crypto stuff |
05:18 | eythian | you just logged in right after I finished it. |
05:18 | so it was like a random draw | |
05:18 | cait | ah |
05:19 | it's a bti bigger than your normal packaging patches | |
05:19 | hmm | |
05:19 | eythian | Yeah, I know. It's not really a packaging one. |
05:19 | cait | similar to how i broke it :) |
05:20 | * cait | just woke up |
05:20 | eythian | many, many people have broken things this way. It's vaugely annoying. |
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05:20 | eythian | (also, it's usually me who finds them :) |
05:21 | cait | it's not nice, but that makes me feel a little better |
05:21 | why is it only normal? | |
05:21 | eythian | well, it only breaks test cases, it doesn't actually break functionality. |
05:21 | but it does mean that packages can't be built until that patch is in. | |
05:22 | cait | not sure when I will have time |
05:22 | not this morning | |
05:22 | eythian | oh well. Maybe someone will beat you to it. |
05:22 | cait | let's hope |
05:23 | eythian | @later tell gmcharlt bug 11013 will need to slip past freeze when it's QA'ed, I think. |
05:23 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
05:24 | cait | it's a bug fix |
05:24 | so it should be ok i think | |
05:24 | eythian | true |
05:55 | dcook | I wish that Google wouldn't have dropped the Library of Congress site... |
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05:57 | cait | oh did it? |
05:57 | drojf | good morning #koha |
05:57 | cait | loc.gov/marc? |
05:57 | wahanui | rumour has it loc.gov/marc is the official documentation |
05:57 | cait | morning dcook and hi drojf |
06:00 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
06:00 | dcook | cait: Yeah, I memorized that one. I was looking for z39.50 stuff |
06:01 | Found it though | |
06:01 | cait | :) |
06:01 | dcook | It might still be there...just lower down |
06:03 | Oh yes, morning cait | |
06:03 | Morning drojf | |
06:04 | * dcook | rushes off to a bus to the boonies |
06:04 | cait | boonies? |
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06:38 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
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06:43 | reiveune | hello |
06:49 | magnuse | bonjour! |
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06:52 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
06:54 | Joubu | hi #koha |
06:57 | rangi | /ws 24 |
06:57 | heh | |
06:57 | evening all | |
07:03 | magnuse | evening rangi |
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07:06 | magnuse | kia ora kf |
07:06 | kf | kia ora magnuse |
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07:19 | samueld | hi everybody |
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07:43 | magnuse | bonjour sophie_m et samueld, kia ora JDatTeTakere |
07:43 | sophie_m | Hello ma |
07:43 | gnuse | |
07:46 | magnuse | :-) |
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07:58 | magnuse | anyone tried https://www.duosecurity.com/docs/duounix ? |
08:02 | JDatTeTakere | Hey Magnuse. How are you? |
08:03 | magnuse | doing good, thanks |
08:03 | overly busy, though | |
08:03 | and yerself? | |
08:05 | JDatTeTakere | I'm overly busy too. It is Tuesday night and I get on a plane to Reno on Sunday so have LOTS to do at work and at home. |
08:10 | magnuse | every silver lining has a cloud? ;-) |
08:21 | JDatTeTakere | 8-) |
08:21 | kf | JDatTeTakere: i kow how you feel |
08:21 | going crazy here | |
08:24 | JDatTeTakere | Hey Katrin...nice to see you. |
08:28 | kivilahtio | kf: Don't go crazy! we need youo! |
08:33 | kf | JDatTeTakere: really soon now :) |
08:33 | JDatTeTakere: going to do some last minute shopping tomorrow afternoon | |
08:39 | JDatTeTakere | Shopping? |
08:40 | I have a day off work tomorrow...turning 43 (gulp). Having lunch with friends then shopping for 2 weeks of cat food. | |
08:42 | magnuse | JDatTeTakere: i don't think you have to bring your own catfood to reno... |
08:44 | JDatTeTakere | Ohhhh...so if I bring my cats to Reno there will be food for them? :-[ |
08:45 | I personally don't eat catfood in case you were worried. 100% vegetarian. | |
09:04 | kf | heh |
09:04 | we are glad to hear that :) | |
09:15 | JDatTeTakere | How should we make contact in Reno KF? Shall we make a time to meet in reception? |
09:17 | Or chat on IRC when we've both recovered from our flights? Anyone recommend a good IRC iPad app? | |
09:19 | kf | JDatTeTakere: oh good question |
09:20 | sorry, don't have an ipad | |
09:20 | I think I will be in contact with rangi over twitter | |
09:21 | and i sure will be on IRC :) | |
09:21 | Oak | kf do you have an Android phone? |
09:21 | kf | Oak: no :) i have a meego phone |
09:21 | Oak | ooh |
09:21 | nice | |
09:26 | JDatTeTakere | Cool - I have Twitter too and follow @ranginui. I'm @JDsTwitticles. Just bought an ipad yesterday. |
09:27 | What is a Meego phone? | |
09:28 | kf | i have a nokia n9 |
09:29 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo | |
09:29 | can't explain that right myself, wikipedia does better | |
09:29 | hopefully | |
09:29 | MeeGo was a Linux-based free mobile operating system project, which lives on in a fork called Mer. | |
09:30 | JDatTeTakere | Cool...looks great. I'd better go and finish my monthly report. Will be back for the meeting. |
09:32 | Oak | Jolla looks good too.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla |
09:40 | kf | JDatTeTakere: I think the meeting is on wednesday? |
09:40 | meego is ok, but it's pretty dead now that nokia is microsoft | |
09:42 | JDatTeTakere | Ohhh...tomorrow night. :-) Doh! |
09:42 | Timezone confusion | |
09:42 | kf | been there... |
09:52 | magnuse | done that... |
09:52 | the next meeting is in 1 | |
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09:53 | oops | |
09:53 | note to self: copy and paste from, timeanddate.com is not so good | |
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09:58 | dengoleek | hello is it possible to install koha on debian wheezy? or do i have to install debian squeeze |
10:01 | JDatTeTakere | Thanks Magnuse |
10:02 | magnuse | dengoleek: "The Debian squeeze (6.0) and wheezy (7.0) releases are supported" from: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
10:02 | JDatTeTakere: i kind of thought you were bringing your cats to reno ;-) | |
10:04 | dengoleek | thanks! |
10:09 | kivilahtio | about web development good practices. Are you designing Koha to be usable without javascript as well? Or is this totally from the 1990s? |
10:10 | I mean is the idea of developing for no javascript from 1990s :) | |
10:10 | slef | kivilahtio: the idea of developing for no javascript is from the 2010s, helpful for low power mobile devices and so on. |
10:11 | kivilahtio | slef: touche |
10:12 | slef: can you use Koha without javascript? | |
10:13 | slef | kivilahtio: not all of it, at the moment. |
10:13 | kivilahtio | slef: ok, I'll try to go the no javascript route |
10:19 | slef | kivilahtio: go a javascript-extends route if you can. |
10:19 | then it's whizzbang for people who can, but still works otherwise | |
10:20 | kivilahtio | slef: yeah, it's just a bit hard when you need to submit a form to two different places depending on which submit button you press :) |
10:23 | JDatTeTakere | My cats aren't fond of travel sorry Magnuse. Plus their passports have lapsed. |
10:23 | magnuse | JDatTeTakere: ah, too bad ;-) |
10:24 | kf | kivilahtio: I think it's always good to try for good accessibility |
10:24 | so fallbacks that work without javascript are very welcome | |
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12:20 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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12:39 | kivilahtio | do you really place multiple holds at once in Koha? |
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12:39 | kivilahtio | at once via opac-reserve.pl? |
12:40 | tcohen | morning #koha |
12:41 | kivilahtio | morning tcohen! |
12:41 | oleonard | kivilahtio: If the DisplayMultiPlaceHold preference is enabled, yes |
12:42 | kivilahtio | oleonard: ok |
12:43 | oleonard: how do you get to place holds on multiple biblios from the OPAC? | |
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12:43 | oleonard | kivilahtio: You use the checkboxes on the search results page and click the "place hold" link at the top |
12:44 | kivilahtio | oleonard: ahh, this is pretty handy. |
12:44 | oleonard: I couldn't have imagined something like this in a library system | |
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12:54 | oleonard | Oh, hey, IRC meeting soon |
12:54 | * oleonard | hesitates to say "tomorrow" given the audience |
12:56 | oleonard | Good morning druthb |
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13:04 | tcohen | has anyone experienced no results when searching from the web, but the expected ones using yaz-client? |
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13:15 | busla | /join #drupal-commerce |
13:15 | oops.. :-) | |
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13:33 | tcohen | bug 10672 |
13:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10672 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add subtitle to display of checkouts, overdues, and holds on the patron summary |
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13:37 | tcohen | why is a subfield mapping needed? |
13:38 | there isn't a good set of default mappings for each MARC flavor? | |
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14:10 | Shane-S | quick question, do i need a new install to add a seperate library and provide their own site? If not is there a wiki link anyone can provide? |
14:12 | oleonard | Shane-S: If you want the new library's operations to be *entirely* separate, yes. |
14:12 | Shane-S: Is there any level of cooperation between the new library and the existing one? Shared catalog? | |
14:13 | Shane-S | Nope, they aren't even automated, still physical card slips and a real life up to date card catalog...I thought they were just for show these days :P |
14:14 | Since I have a server using VMs I can set one up, but I have out School on 3.08 running great, so tought I could toss them in. | |
14:15 | However, I don't want to co-mingle anything (I guess record information would be fine....less for them to import themselves) | |
14:15 | jcamins | Shane-S: if you're using packages you can just run `sudo koha-create --create-db newlib` and have a new installation for them. |
14:15 | oleonard | Shane-S: For setting up multiple installations packages are particularly useful. |
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14:15 | Shane-S | oleonard: I am using packages, so that would still use same server, just utilize a different db backend? |
14:16 | oleonard | What jcamins said. Yes, same server, separate database. |
14:16 | Shane-S | jcamins / oleonard : New setup and all though I assume as it has a fresh db? |
14:17 | jcamins | Yes. |
14:17 | But just starting at the web installer. | |
14:17 | Shane-S | Any guides or search phrase I can use on the wiki? |
14:17 | jcamins | packages? |
14:17 | wahanui | well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
14:18 | Pablo | Hi all! |
14:18 | oleonard | And it's a splendid time to upgrade too! :) |
14:18 | Pablo | I try to clean my datablase with TRUNCATE biblio (like the FAQ says). Some time ago worked like a charm, but now: |
14:18 | Shane-S | jcamins: since they are not automated at all, might it be easier to have our 9,000 record to utilize over a fresh install? |
14:18 | Pablo | ERROR 1701 (42000): Cannot truncate a table referenced in a foreign key constraint (`koha_desarrollo`.`aqorders`, CONSTRAINT `aqorders_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`biblionumber`) REFERENCES `koha_desarrollo`.`biblio` (`biblionumber`)) |
14:19 | tcohen | you need to clean the aqorders table first |
14:19 | kf1 | 3.8 is very old, maybe i would try start a new library on a new version |
14:19 | Shane-S | oleonard: yeah...I need to do that too...I did sudo apt-get update....that didn't do it :P so I need to re-read the wiki's been almost a year since I touched it |
14:19 | kf1 | and also think about updating the other later |
14:20 | Pablo | There is a tidy way to accomplish this (without nasty things like SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0;)? |
14:20 | kf1 | Pablo: removing data from aquisitions like that can get ugly pretty fast |
14:20 | Shane-S | kfl: VERY old is using Follet Circ/Cat 2 years ago...3.08 isn't old yet |
14:20 | kf1 | Pablo: you'd want to make sure you delete all referenced tables - but you probably will need to deactivate foreign keychecks |
14:20 | Pablo | Hi Tomás :) I notice that, but aqorders is already empty |
14:20 | tcohen | c'mon jenkins_koha, process 3.12.x |
14:20 | jcamins | Pablo: you can't use truncate. You need to use DELETE FROM. |
14:20 | And it will take a very long time. | |
14:20 | kf1 | Shane-S: it's in terms of Koha - there have been security fixes since i think |
14:21 | Shane-S: not really really old - of course :) | |
14:21 | jcamins | kf1: there are recent releases of 3.8 with all the security fixes. |
14:21 | tcohen | Pablo you should have a dump of your testing DB and just DROP / CREATE it |
14:21 | jcamins: but an apt-get upgrade won't pull them | |
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14:21 | jcamins | tcohen: ugh. True. |
14:22 | Pablo | Even with aqorders empty, truncating gives me the same error but pointing to aqorders_items, even aqorders_items is empty also |
14:22 | Shane-S | is the upgrade from 3.8->3.12 w/ packages easy or possibly painful? |
14:22 | jcamins | Shane-S: incredibly easy. |
14:22 | tcohen | Shane-S: you can get the latest 3.8 .deb packages here http://download.koha-community.org/ |
14:22 | jcamins | Pablo: TRUNCATE will never work. |
14:23 | tcohen | but, yes, you should upgrade to 3.12 |
14:23 | Shane-S | this is my current version # 3.08.03.000 |
14:23 | jcamins | 3.8.3 definitely has security vulnerabilities. |
14:23 | tcohen | the latest 3.8 package is version 3.8.16 |
14:23 | Pablo | tcohen: but I don't want to loose everything, I wish to just remove biblios, not sysprefs, authorised_values, and so on... |
14:24 | jcamins: OK, so at least FAQ should be updated | |
14:24 | jcamins | Pablo: which FAQ? |
14:24 | Shane-S | alright, I will put these item on my weekly agenda, and I will be back when I am at my server location :P |
14:25 | tcohen | faq? |
14:25 | wahanui | faq is, like, found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
14:26 | Pablo | tcohen: yes, that faq: koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ "I added....?" |
14:26 | jcamins | Hm, yeah. |
14:26 | Try DELETE FROM biblio, and confirm it works for you? | |
14:26 | tcohen | i didn't know of that faq |
14:27 | kf1 | I think we might have tightened the db structures since that was written |
14:27 | tcohen | several missing fk |
14:30 | gmcharlt: is there a way to manually trigger a jenkins run for 3.12.x¿? | |
14:31 | gmcharlt | tcohen: yes -- do you have an account on jenkin's web interface? |
14:32 | (and in the mean time, I've fired off a build of 3.12.x) | |
14:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10917: allow staff to update hold pickup location without modify_holds_priority <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c19a095735c5e5359> |
14:32 | tcohen | i cannot login |
14:33 | gmcharlt | OK, let me see if I can create an account for you |
14:34 | Pablo | @jcamins: It seems DELETE FROM biblio; do what I expected, deleting everything in cascade, without breaking anything |
14:34 | huginn | Pablo: I suck |
14:34 | jcamins | Pablo: good. |
14:35 | @later tell wizzyrea Could you please update the answer to "I added some books for testing, now I'm done testing..." on http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ to say "DELETE FROM biblio;" instead of "TRUNCATE biblio;"? | |
14:35 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
14:39 | Pablo | jcamins: Thanks a lot! BTW, see you at KohaCon14! :) |
14:45 | tcohen | bgkriegel: i've just updated the download page header |
14:45 | looks like 3.8 and 3.10 lines hadn't been updated | |
14:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #135 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #129 4 days 16 hr ago) |
14:47 | jcamins | Hey, what ever happened with the StackExchange proposal? I guess it died a quiet death? |
14:50 | oleonard | Not sure how long it takes before they disconnect life support |
14:50 | gmcharlt | at least a few months, I believe |
14:50 | http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]-library-software <== where to go and vote on questions if you want a Koha StackExchange | |
14:55 | tcohen | how many more votes do we need? |
14:58 | gmcharlt | 20 more followers, 35 more questions upvoted to at least 10 |
15:07 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #98 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
15:16 | bgkriegel | tcohen: where? |
15:17 | tcohen | bgkriegel: files/includes/header.html |
15:22 | @later tell wizzyrea do u know what happened to the CSS at http://debian.koha-community.org/ ? | |
15:22 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
15:22 | jeff | based on past experience, the Libraries and Information Science StackExchange site proposal lingered for ~2 years before entering beta, then closed after just over a year in beta. The site and its contents are offline, available only as a data dump. |
15:22 | http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]formation-science has a breakdown of the performance and where the lines were drawn to determine it didn't have enough activity to exit beta. | |
15:25 | http://koha-community.org/wp-c[…]-park-2/style.css is redirecting to http://koha-community.org/ seems to be the biggest issue. | |
15:27 | It's likely someone uninstalled a theme that was no longer in use in the WordPress site. | |
15:27 | The CSS could be extracted from the download here -- the theme itself appears to be unmaintained, and is likely not suitable for use in an actual WordPress site these days. http://wordpress.org/themes/cordobo-green-park-2 | |
15:36 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #135: STILL FAILING in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/135/ |
15:36 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 10917: allow staff to update hold pickup location without modify_holds_priority | |
15:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10917 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Librarian cannot update hold pickup location without modify_holds_priority |
15:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #98: SUCCESS in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/98/ |
15:49 | * Mason James: Bug 10915: fix About->timeline breakage on incompletely upgraded Koha | |
15:49 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10915: (QA followup) warn if cannot read history.txt | |
15:49 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Update release notes for 3.12.5 release | |
15:49 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.12.05 | |
15:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10915 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , about->timeline broken on upgraded Koha |
15:49 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Increment version for 3.12.5 release |
15:49 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10609: Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl (3.12.x) | |
15:49 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10218: Add individual CSS classes for bibliographic information in OPAC (UNIMARC) | |
15:49 | * David Cook: Bug 10793: XSLT change 780/785 search queries to use ti,phr indexes like other linking entries | |
15:49 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10742: improve converting simple search to Z39.50 search | |
15:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10721 - Improve DataTables configuration on transfers to receive report | |
15:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10672 - Add subtitle to display of checkouts, overdues, and holds on the patron summary | |
15:49 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10272: make CheckReserves respect ReservesControlBranch | |
15:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl |
15:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10218 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Add individual CSS classes for bibliographic information on OPAC results and detail pages (UNIMARC) | |
15:49 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10272: (follow-up) add regression test |
15:49 | * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 10324: fix display of editorial series in normal view (UNIMARC / no XSLT) | |
15:49 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10349 - Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff | |
15:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10793 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , XSLT change 780/785 search queries to use ti,phr indexes like other linking entries |
15:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10742 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , simple search to z39.50 search keeps index | |
15:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10721 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Improve DataTables configuration on transfers to receive report | |
15:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10672 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Add subtitle to display of checkouts, overdues, and holds on the patron summary | |
15:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10272 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , CheckReserves returns not respecting ReservesControlBranch | |
15:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10324 trivial, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , Editorial series do not display correctly in normal view (UNIMARC / no XSLT) | |
15:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff | |
15:50 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1432 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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15:50 | * kf1 | waves |
15:51 | tcohen | what's the hype about the cinnamon interface? |
15:51 | is it good? | |
15:51 | kf1 | ? |
15:51 | jcamins | tcohen: depends what you're putting the cinnamon on. |
15:51 | oleonard | http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ ? |
15:51 | jcamins | Cinnamon rolls are pretty delicious. |
15:52 | tcohen | oleonard got it right |
15:52 | jcamins | Cinnamon peppers are not. |
15:52 | tcohen | cinnamon tea |
15:52 | * jcamins | likes cinnamon tea. |
15:57 | kf1 | cinnamon rolls? |
15:57 | wahanui | cinnamon rolls are delicious delicacies |
15:58 | Dyrcona | marmite? |
15:58 | kf1 | wahanui: marmite is yuck. |
15:58 | wahanui | OK, kf1. |
15:58 | Dyrcona | heh. |
15:58 | kf1 | wahanui botsnack marmite? |
15:58 | wahanui | :) |
15:58 | kf1 | hm. |
16:00 | bye all :) | |
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16:07 | reiveune | bye |
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16:24 | tcohen | khall: would u be kind and provide a patch that adds your Template Plugins to 3.12.x? |
16:24 | (those u introduced in 8125) | |
16:24 | (i mean, bug 8215) | |
16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add Course Reserves |
16:28 | khall | tcohen: have you tried applying the patches? Course reserves were pushed right after the 3.12 release |
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16:33 | khall | tcohen: I've attached an omnibus patch to the bug report rebased to v3.12.05 |
16:33 | oleonard | Isn't Course reserves a new feature, and thus shouldn't be pushed to 3.12.x? |
16:34 | cait | hm? |
16:34 | * cait | waves |
16:41 | cait | oleonard: agreed |
16:42 | i think tcohen just marked something dependent? but haven't seen all bug mails yet | |
16:44 | khall? | |
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16:52 | Shane-S | I'm back...I tried sudo apt-get upgrade and got dependency errors, did apt-get -f install...errors as well....should I head to #ubuntu or think you all might have a clue if I post the packages? |
17:07 | tcohen | oleonard: course reserves introduced some TT plugins that are being actively used on several template bugfixes |
17:08 | cait | hm but enough to port the plugins then? |
17:08 | the whole feature is really huge, i think backporting that would be overkill | |
17:09 | tcohen | i dont' want to backport it (i would have done it if that was the case) |
17:09 | i just want the template plugins | |
17:09 | cait | aaah so we misunderstood khall then :) |
17:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1432: FAILURE in 1 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1432/ |
17:09 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice | |
17:09 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window | |
17:09 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files | |
17:09 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields | |
17:09 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC | |
17:09 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10803: make "Make payment" in circ easier to translate | |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10305 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , _increment_barcode is called twice |
17:09 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time |
17:09 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: dbrev for ConfirmFutureHolds | |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10847 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Open external link to website of a vendor in new tab/window |
17:09 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Reformulating the preference description |
17:09 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Preliminary measures for adding a unit test | |
17:09 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Unit tests for ConfirmFutureHolds changes | |
17:09 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9761: DBRev 3.13.00.021 | |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT should be removed |
17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10911 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Records with 880 fields have broken details links in intranet search results using XSLT. | |
17:09 | jenkins_koha | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10687: Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework |
17:09 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10687: (follow-up) remove authority 68a/68b tags from translated MARC21 framework scripts | |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Contact note not updating via opac |
17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10803 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , "Make payment" in circ is not easily translatable | |
17:09 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10687: DBRev 3.13.00.022 |
17:09 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10730: Use DataTables on the tag review page | |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time |
17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10687 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework | |
17:09 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10730: (follow-up) restore background color for cells |
17:09 | * Srdjan: Bug 9299: fix LDAP login breakage when ExtendedPatronAttributes is on | |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on the tag review page |
17:09 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10836 - New layout for placing holds in the OPAC |
17:09 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10836: (follow-up) improve display toggles on the OPAC hold request form | |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail |
17:10 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New layout for placing holds in the OPAC | |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10901: Add datatables to the add item page |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10901: (follow-up) make the withdrawn column sortable | |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10901: (follow-up) add space between 'Edit in host' and 'Delink' | |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10925: fix LDAP auth failing if DEBUG is enabled | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10901 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Filters is needed on the add item page |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10965: fix breakage when loading sample itemtypes during install |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10949: restore ability to successfully print hold slips | |
17:10 | khall | tcohen, yes I definitely misunerstood |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10967: fix minor POD error |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 5645: improve converting simple search to Z39.50 search | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10925 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , LDAP Auth fails if DEBUG is enable |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10948: make reference labels translatable in OPAC auth results |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10806: make the staff benchmark script check authentication failure. | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10965 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Sample itemtypes can't load on new install |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10927: remove disused C4::Utils module |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10419: new cronjob for deleting patrons | |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10419: (followup) - tidy up cronjob for deleting patrons | |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10419: (follow-up) add branchcode parameter to patron deletion script | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10949 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , hold request not retrieved when printing hold slip |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 10419: (followup) fix license statement |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10419: (follow-up) tidy names of command-line switches | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10967 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , POD ERROR in acqui/booksellers.pl |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10419: (follow-up) functional improvements |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10419: (follow-up) fix hardcoded records and pod | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5645 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 search from search results not parsing query correctly |
17:10 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10948 normal, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , Some strings in the authority result list turned out untranslatable | |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10419: (follow-up) patrons with fines should not be deleted |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: bug 10419: (follow-up) improvements to the usage text | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The staff benchmark script does not check authentication failure |
17:10 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10927 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Utils becomes useless | |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 9611: Change the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to Bcrypt |
17:10 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9611: add Crypt::Eksblowfish::Bcrypt to list of Perl dependencies | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is no cronjob script for deleting patrons |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Srdjan: bug 9611: Extract checkpw_internal() and checkpw_hash() from checkpw() |
17:10 | * Srdjan: bug 9611: (follow-up) remove md5_base64 from imports - not used | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Srdjan: bug 9611: use hash_password() and checkpw_* for LDAP logins instead of md5 hash |
17:10 | * Srdjan: bug 9611: use checkpw_hash() instead of md5 hash for SIP2 logins | |
17:10 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9611: Database update, changing password from varchar(30) to varchar(60) | |
17:10 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9611: (follow-up) fix POD | |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: bug 9611: (follow-up) add reference to Crypt::Eksblowfish::Bcrypt in POD | |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9611: DBRev 3.13.00.023 | |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9611: (follow-up) add libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl to debian/control | |
17:10 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10668 - Improve suggestion detail page | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10668 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve suggestion detail page |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10668 - Improve suggestion detail page - QA Followup |
17:10 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9735 - Let the language be selected through URL parameters | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Choose language using URL parameters in any page |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9735 - Build the cookie array correctly |
17:10 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9735: Unit tests for get_template_and_user (cookies handling) | |
17:10 | * David Cook: Bug 10096 - Add a Z39.50 interface for authority searching | |
17:10 | * David Cook: Bug 10096 - (follow-up) various QA improvements | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10096 new feature, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add a Z39.50 interface for authority searching |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10096: DBRev 3.13.00.024 |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: bug 10096: (follow-up) use datatables.inc | |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10096: (follow-up) add LC authority Z39.50 targets to 'en' sample data | |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10096: (follow-up) rename button on authorities toolbar | |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10856: Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser | |
17:10 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10856: (follow-up) if callnumbers are equal, order should be on itemnumber | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10856: (Follow-up) improve behavior of the "close shelf browser" link |
17:10 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 10856: Fix cover display in shelf browser | |
17:10 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 5544: prefer library email address over admin address as notice sender | |
17:10 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 5544: (follow-up) avoid warning if notice is not directed at a patron | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , All Notices from Branch Email Address |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Mark Tompsett: Bug 7764: rework the INSTALL.ubuntu instructions |
17:10 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 7764: (follow-up) editorial tweaks | |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7764 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , INSTALL.ubuntu needs to be updated |
17:10 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10917: allow staff to update hold pickup location without modify_holds_priority |
17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10917 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Librarian cannot update hold pickup location without modify_holds_priority |
17:10 | cait | we just updated our oldest customer to 3.12.5 today.... and now you are torturing me with pushing lots of new fixess? :) |
17:11 | khall | tcohen: you should be able to just copy those plugins out of master to 3.12, and use git add and them commit them |
17:11 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #352 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
17:13 | tcohen | khall: np, i will |
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17:25 | * cait | waves again :) |
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17:35 | tcohen | gmcharlt: are there any TT unit tests? |
17:36 | gmcharlt | tcohen: there are a few for TT plugins |
17:36 | tcohen | yeah, i meant plugins |
17:37 | kohacon13 arrivals? | |
17:37 | gmcharlt | ./db_dependent/Koha_template_plugin_KohaBranchName.t and ./db_dependent/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t |
17:38 | tcohen | thanks gmcharlt |
17:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #352: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/352/ |
17:48 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.8.18 | |
17:48 | * Chris Hall: Release notes for 3.8.18 | |
17:48 | * Chris Hall: Koha 3.8.18 release | |
17:51 | cait | arrivals? |
17:51 | hm. | |
17:52 | oleonard | wahanui: arrivals is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohacon13/Arrivals |
17:52 | wahanui | OK, oleonard. |
18:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #99 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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18:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #99: UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/99/ |
18:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10333: Labels/t_Batch.t needs to create its own data | |
18:44 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8215: TT plugins | |
18:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10333 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , UT: Labels/t_Batch.t needs to create its own data |
18:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add Course Reserves | |
18:46 | tcohen | i don't belive you jenkins_koha |
18:49 | gmcharlt: is it possible that jenkins is using a 3.14.x db for 3.12x? | |
18:50 | gmcharlt | tcohen: yes; quite likely, in fact |
18:51 | tcohen | ok, i'll keep that in mind to avoid heart attack |
18:51 | heh | |
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18:59 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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19:24 | ubitus | Hi everyone. I'm new to koha, having only recently installed the software and it seems to be a great tool. However, I'm struggeling a bit with the cataloging as I can't seem to find a Z39.50 source that provides Dewey Decimal Call Numbers. Anyone got any tips for UK / German Z39.50 Servers? |
19:27 | cait | hi ubitus - maybe try swb |
19:28 | ubitus: where are you from? :) | |
19:30 | ubitus | Germany |
19:30 | oleonard | http://irspy.indexdata.com/find.html |
19:31 | cait | ubitus: me too :) |
19:32 | ubitus | aleonard, thanks for the link, already tried a few an not all of them provide DDC call numbers. I thought asking was a better idea than trying them all one by one ;) |
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19:43 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
19:43 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 29.4°C (2:43 PM CDT on October 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
19:43 | druthb | @wunder 75076 |
19:43 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Preston Shores, Pottsboro, Texas is 26.5°C (2:30 PM CDT on October 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
19:43 | druthb | I wonder... |
19:43 | @wunder IAH | |
19:43 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Houston Intercontinental, Texas is 27.0°C (1:53 PM CDT on October 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
19:44 | druthb | yes… and…. |
19:44 | cait | @wunder Reno, Nevada |
19:44 | druthb | @wunder PNX |
19:44 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 15.2°C (12:30 PM PDT on October 08, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
19:44 | druthb: The current temperature in Sherman-Denison, Texas is 26.0°C (2:35 PM CDT on October 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). | |
19:44 | cait | hmm |
19:44 | druthb | yes! |
19:45 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
19:45 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 20.4°C (3:39 PM EDT on October 08, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
19:45 | oleonard | Wow, colder in Reno than here. Brrr. |
19:45 | bag | @wunder 93102 |
19:45 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 20.4°C (12:45 PM PDT on October 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
19:47 | cait | yeah :( |
19:47 | still pondering what to pack | |
19:47 | had hoped it would be a bit warmer! | |
19:47 | it's already os cold and foggy here | |
19:47 | druthb | hi, bag! |
19:47 | bag | hey druthb |
19:48 | cait | hi bag |
19:48 | bag | heya cait |
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19:51 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
19:51 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:30 AM NZDT on October 09, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Rising). |
19:51 | wizzyrea | hm yea it's a bit pants. |
19:51 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
19:52 | wizzyrea | hallo! |
19:52 | oleonard: what needs to be done for the responsive theme? | |
19:52 | just testing testing testing? | |
19:53 | oleonard | Yes. Happily, it now has a signoff |
19:53 | wizzyrea | excellent! I'm feeling pretty happy with it from my testing too |
19:53 | so I may add my signoff as well. | |
19:53 | oleonard | I'm working on one catch-up item, copying over the changes to the place hold interface from the prog theme |
19:55 | wizzyrea | aha yea - so is the idea that this will replace or sit alongside the existing themes for a time, or beome the new default |
19:55 | i.e. leave "prog" | |
19:55 | but the bootstrap/responsive is the new default? | |
19:56 | * wizzyrea | would be totally ok with that |
19:59 | oleonard | I don't know what the plan is. |
20:00 | The goal is to have it be the default theme eventually, but I don't know how we get there and not freak out every library that has OPAC customizations | |
20:02 | magnuse | yeah, leaving prog as default in 3.12 might be a good idea |
20:02 | then have the new one as the default in the next version, after announcing it far and wide | |
20:02 | cait | yeah |
20:02 | and maybe not remove prog for a bit | |
20:03 | responsive? | |
20:03 | wahanui | i heard responsive was looking real nice |
20:03 | cait | responsive opac? |
20:03 | opac? | |
20:03 | wahanui | it has been said that opac is for patrons |
20:04 | magnuse | woohoo, i just registered for swib13! |
20:05 | cait | :) |
20:05 | jcamins | I see no problem with making the new one default for new installs, but leaving old installs w/prog. |
20:06 | cait | default is fine for me, i just think we should maintain it a bit longer |
20:06 | not make a too hard break | |
20:06 | i know it will take me a while to move things... and learn how to customize | |
20:07 | we have some libraries with a layout that i am not sure will work with the responsiveness | |
20:07 | * jcamins | doesn't care at all, but wanted to point out that it was possible to make it the default without causing any inconvenience for current users. |
20:07 | cait | true :) |
20:08 | gmcharlt | hmm, makes me there there's a slate of things to vote on /at/ KohaCon re new defaults |
20:08 | *think there's | |
20:11 | * magnuse | wabders off |
20:11 | wizzyrea | ^^ what jcamins said |
20:12 | maintaining 3 will be a pita though | |
20:13 | turn the current default to look to bootstrap for it's files like ccsr does? | |
20:13 | jcamins | wizzyrea: unfortunately, I don't think that'll work. |
20:14 | That takes it from a minor (though large) change with minimal impact on other parts of the system to a major change with massive impact on everything. | |
20:15 | rangi | i think new installs with bootstrap as default makes sense, that gives people about a year |
20:15 | to get ready | |
20:15 | since 3.12 will be around for about that long after 3.14 is out | |
20:15 | cait | morning rangi |
20:15 | rangi | morning |
20:16 | cait | I think the fallback to templates is an interesting points |
20:16 | point | |
20:16 | we can only have 1 default in that regard I guess? | |
20:16 | rangi | yes |
20:16 | cait | so we have to be a little careful when switching aroudn things |
20:17 | rangi | no |
20:17 | well a little | |
20:17 | cait | I said a little :P |
20:17 | rangi | but not very much at all |
20:17 | unless we try and have both as default | |
20:17 | cait | i was thinking if we need to touch routines to say. bootstap is the new default |
20:18 | that could impact updated installations | |
20:18 | rangi | naw |
20:18 | jcamins | Default and fallback are unrelated. |
20:19 | cait | ah, i meant fallback |
20:19 | so the real real default with all consequences | |
20:20 | rangi | its precisely one line |
20:20 | in C4::Templates | |
20:20 | # Otherwise, return prog theme in English 'en' | |
20:20 | return ('prog', 'en', \@themes); | |
20:21 | jcamins | rangi: that line appears twice. |
20:21 | So if you're writing a patch, make sure you get the other occurrence. | |
20:22 | cait | eah, but what about updated? you won't know what a custom theme will be based onto |
20:22 | ok, custom themes might be a different story anyway. hm. | |
20:22 | rangi | thats not our problem |
20:22 | jcamins | Then you should read the release notes and address the issue before 3.16. |
20:22 | rangi | the fallback is always prog en |
20:22 | whatever custom ones you made | |
20:23 | jcamins | Or 3.18, or whatever. |
20:23 | cait | rangi: yeah, but not if we are changing it for 3.14 :) |
20:23 | rangi | still makes no difference |
20:23 | cait | hm i might be missing somehtin ghere |
20:23 | jcamins | cait: but we're not changing it for 3.14. |
20:23 | The default and the fallback are unrelated. | |
20:23 | rangi | exactly |
20:23 | cait | yes |
20:23 | i know | |
20:23 | jcamins | We're discussing changing the default. |
20:23 | cait | so when are we going to change the fallback then? |
20:24 | ubitus | sorry for another quick question: I'm setting up my spine labels. The itemcallnumber appears fine, but I'd also like the first three letters of the authors name and the year the item was published, how do I achieve that ? |
20:24 | cait | do we want to do it together or later:) |
20:24 | rangi | later |
20:24 | cait | ok |
20:24 | jcamins | 3.16, when prog is removed? Or 3.18, when prog is removed. |
20:24 | Whenever prog is removed. | |
20:24 | cait | ubitus: what you could do is use the quick spine labels |
20:24 | and try and use opacuserjs and opacusercss on them to achieve that | |
20:25 | but it might not work 100% | |
20:25 | the year the item was published should be in copyrightyear | |
20:25 | and the author in author - but only if the author is in marc21 100 | |
20:26 | ubitus | I found the fields, 100a and 260c, but they appear as 0 in the PDF file under the call number |
20:26 | in the CSV they come out o.k. | |
20:26 | which is somewhat strange I think | |
20:26 | cait | hm yes |
20:26 | wha tis the syntax you used? | |
20:26 | and maybe try using copyrightyear and author instead as a tet | |
20:27 | ubitus | itemcallnumber, 100a, 260c |
20:27 | wizzyrea | this sounds a lot like a maintenance nightmare :/ |
20:28 | rangi | how so? |
20:28 | wizzyrea | running two complete themes concurrently |
20:28 | they will get out of sync. | |
20:28 | rangi | not our probem |
20:29 | ubitus | copyrightyear dowsnt work at all, author and 100a seem to be interchangeble |
20:29 | cait | wizzyrea: we have done it for a while now |
20:29 | rangi | one is the default, one is the fallback |
20:29 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that already happens with CCSR, and none of my libraries using CCSR have complained. |
20:29 | cait | ubitus: it's the same field - only different way of accessing it |
20:29 | wizzyrea | ccsr uses prog as the fallback, it doesn't have a complete set of files |
20:29 | bootstrap, I think, does | |
20:29 | cait | true |
20:29 | jcamins | Right, but why would we update prog? |
20:29 | rangi | exactly |
20:30 | cait | we might break things there when changing feature |
20:30 | s | |
20:30 | rangi | so |
20:30 | wizzyrea | I guess that's what is referred to as "not our problem" |
20:30 | cait | that would mean deprecating it right away |
20:30 | rangi | no |
20:30 | cait | if we don#t fix buga |
20:30 | bugs | |
20:30 | i am not saying porting new features to it | |
20:30 | jcamins | cait: bugs should be fixed in both. |
20:30 | cait | but take care it works ok until we really deprecate |
20:31 | wizzyrea | that's partially why I was suggesting making prog fallback to bootstrap |
20:31 | where that can be done | |
20:31 | jcamins | Wait... why am i still talking about this? |
20:32 | We already know it's not actually worth my time from painful experience. | |
20:32 | * jcamins | returns to productivity. |
20:32 | ubitus | hmm, strange this. the CSV output is fine, the PDF is not. Will have to think about this tomorrow I guess |
20:33 | ahh well, I made the label wider and now it works | |
20:33 | thanks and good night | |
20:34 | cait | good night |
20:34 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, cait. |
20:34 | cait | creepy |
20:35 | wizzyrea | lol. |
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21:15 | eythian | hi |
21:15 | cait | hey eythian |
21:19 | tcohen | hi eythian cait |
21:20 | cait | wb tcohen - didnt you leave earlier? |
21:20 | tcohen | i'm at home |
21:21 | i'm, in some way, like you cait | |
21:22 | cait | that good or bad? :) |
21:23 | tcohen | heh, it depends on who you ask |
21:26 | gmcharlt | the folks who are trying to extract dream energy from you two think it's absolutely TERRIBLE! ;) |
21:27 | rangi | http://ceph.com/ <--awesome |
21:30 | tcohen | do u know why is it better than other solutions? |
21:30 | rangi | ask eythian in a couple of weeks time after he has seen marks presentation on it :) |
21:31 | cait | lol |
21:31 | gmcharlt: heh :) | |
21:33 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
21:33 | now i got more stuff to talk about with my shrink | |
21:37 | gmcharlt | tcohen: happy to be of service |
21:37 | cait | someone stealing my dream energy is... |
21:37 | making me not wantto go to sleep ever. | |
21:38 | rambutan | I'll happily take your sleep allocation |
21:39 | cait | you won't get far with it |
21:39 | but anyway | |
21:39 | good night all :) | |
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21:46 | wizzyrea | good night |
21:46 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, wizzyrea. |
21:46 | * wizzyrea | pats wahanui |
21:48 | tcohen | ok, now i like ubuntu |
21:48 | * tcohen | managed to set two different kind of VPN connections using the UI |
21:48 | tcohen | (even set static routes for them) |
21:49 | hi wizzyrea | |
21:49 | wizzyrea | heyaa |
21:56 | tcohen | does anyone like gin-based cocktails? found this coincidence funny: http://snag.gy/TYN06.jpg |
21:58 | jcamins | Zebra/Yaz versions for 3.12.05? |
21:58 | tcohen | http://bit.ly/JK1IP |
21:58 | jcamins | Ah. |
21:59 | tcohen | need to eat something, my brain is semi-funcitonal right now |
22:00 | wizzyrea | @later tell dcook you have an IE8 hanging around eh? |
22:00 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
22:04 | rangi | welp rfp still suck |
22:05 | wizzyrea | like statistics. |
22:05 | "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" | |
22:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I have IE8, though my computer would never forgive me for booting XP now, too. |
22:07 | wizzyrea | hm best not to |
22:07 | jcamins | What do you need? I might shut down a VM or two at some point. |
22:08 | wizzyrea | nah that's ok, but thanks for offering :) |
22:08 | there's a thing I want him specifically to check if he has a minute | |
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23:02 | tcohen | is it possible to hide the SQL from report results? |
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23:08 | jcamins | Yeah, with CSS. |
23:10 | tcohen | ugly |
23:11 | eythian | it'd be an easy enough patch I'd think :) |
23:11 | tcohen | of course, I guess an accordion might work (hidden by default) |
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23:12 | eythian | that's not a bad idea. |
23:12 | hola papa | |
23:13 | tcohen | jcamins: thanks for the tip anyway |
23:14 | used it | |
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23:29 | dcook | mornin' |
23:30 | tcohen | morning |
23:31 | is 'UNION' forbidden in SQL reports? | |
23:34 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Saving as SQL report yields error on the browser" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/242 |
23:38 | tcohen | (works on mysql) |
23:42 | jcamins | Looks permitted to me. |
23:42 | Must be something else preventing the query working. | |
23:43 | tcohen | some local constrain? |
23:43 | jcamins | Works for me. |
23:43 | tcohen | when i click "Save" it dies |
23:44 | jcamins | Do you have whitespace before the SELECT? |
23:44 | tcohen | nope |
23:45 | are u testing on 3.12? | |
23:45 | jcamins | Master. |
23:45 | -ish. | |
23:46 | tcohen | will try another server |
23:46 | - setup | |
23:46 | it worked somewhere else | |
23:46 | it must be a problem with a reverse proxy on that institution | |
23:47 | because the message is about expiration | |
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