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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:19 | BobB | hi |
| 00:19 | wahanui | kai ora, BobB |
| 00:19 | BobB | :) |
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| 00:46 | rambutan | hi BobB |
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| 00:47 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 00:47 | rambutan | hi mtompset |
| 00:47 | mtompset | Greetings, rambutan. |
| 00:47 | I got my little bit of work done. YAY! :) | |
| 00:47 | rambutan | ah, well good |
| 00:47 | mtompset | Isn't The 23rd a GBSD? |
| 00:48 | rambutan | i don't recall |
| 00:48 | there's probably a wahanui trigger for it | |
| 00:49 | mtompset | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 00:49 | gbsd? | |
| 00:49 | wahanui | somebody said gbsd was Global Bug Squashing Day |
| 00:50 | mtompset | Followed by a QA Sprint day. |
| 00:50 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]-24_QA_Sprint_Day | |
| 00:50 | given that... | |
| 00:50 | feature slush? | |
| 00:50 | wahanui | i think feature slush is the date stuff that got passed-qa makes it into 3.14 with high probability |
| 00:50 | mtompset | is the 25th. |
| 00:50 | rambutan | busy week coming up |
| 00:50 | mtompset | I was hoping that 10900 would be looked at. :) |
| 00:51 | but everyone has their own bugs they are working on too. :) | |
| 00:52 | Because I have an enhancement I'd like in 3.14, but if it doesn't hit feature slush, then it won't make it. And it is dependent on two other of my bugs. | |
| 00:56 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 00:59 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 00:59 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 01:00 | busy sunday, i just got home | |
| 01:01 | mtompset | playing tennis? |
| 01:01 | my Sunday's are generally filled with driving from church to church. :) | |
| 01:01 | tcohen | tennis of course :-D |
| 01:02 | plus several family meetings | |
| 01:03 | bye mtompset, #koha | |
| 01:04 | mtompset | Come to think of it, 20+20+60+60 = 2.667h, 35+45+60 = 2.333h -- I spend about 2-3 hours driving every Sunday. Strange for a day of rest. ;) |
| 01:04 | Bye, tcohen. :) | |
| 01:04 | rambutan | bye tcohen |
| 01:05 | mtompset: you aren't driving that far to work, are you? | |
| 01:05 | ah, no, ic ic | |
| 01:06 | mtompset | Driving during the week gets worse, I spend about 3hours a day M, Th, and F driving my wife to and from school. |
| 01:06 | Work... I work from home generally, so no driving involved. | |
| 01:07 | At worst, I drive into the Toronto office once a week and that's only 1 hour round trip. | |
| 01:08 | rambutan | gee, do you live in Yellowknife? |
| 01:08 | mtompset | Add in my 40 minutes round trips chauffeuring my brother to work, and my driving schedule goes crazy. |
| 01:09 | No, I live in a town where there is no public transit except one provincial one at impossibly useless times. | |
| 01:10 | Thankfully, my work schedule is very flexible. | |
| 01:10 | The problem is between sleep, driving, and working, there isn't much time for anything else. | |
| 01:10 | rambutan | I would tend to agree! |
| 01:11 | mtompset | That's why I'm hoping for my wife to get her G2 license, so she can drive herself to school. |
| 01:12 | Then a significant chunk of chauffeuring disappears. | |
| 01:19 | rambutan | what specifically is g2? |
| 01:21 | mtompset | G1 is learner's permit, must have accompanying fully licensed driver. |
| 01:21 | G2 is licensed, but still not fully. Curfews and other driving restrictions. | |
| 01:22 | G is fully licensed. | |
| 01:22 | rambutan | ic |
| 01:22 | mtompset | As my wife doesn't have classes from midnight to 5am, I don't think there will be a problem. :) |
| 01:22 | rambutan | and you have a chauffer's license |
| 01:23 | mtompset | I'm the only fully licensed person in the household. :( |
| 01:23 | rambutan | <chauffeur> |
| 01:23 | ok, well, I'm going to check out for the evening, cul. | |
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| 02:54 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
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| 03:39 | druthb | o/ |
| 03:40 | * druthb | wonders idly if bag is about--it's early there yet, and a little bit of THE crazy would be a nice capper to a nice weekend. :P |
| 03:46 | eythian | link? |
| 03:47 | dcook | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]eature=inp-lt-rbr |
| 03:52 | eythian | ta |
| 04:00 | anyone know how to get a list of the distinct values in a spreadsheet column? | |
| 04:00 | Like select distinct or grouping in sql would give you | |
| 04:06 | dcook | Alas, I think that's beyond my spreadsheet fu |
| 04:06 | eythian | I figured out (by copying the instructions on a website that explained how to do it.) |
| 04:09 | dcook | internet++ |
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| 04:28 | dcook | I should be eating lunch but...live stream... |
| 04:32 | eythian | :D |
| 04:33 | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]tead-of-the-staff <-- I have no idea what this question is even trying to ask. | |
| 04:33 | cjh | koha has gold and diamond classes :o |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | errr |
| 04:36 | do they think koha is a CMS? | |
| 04:37 | http://area51.stackexchange.com/ | |
| 04:50 | http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]kVFxwA0SJwD4uepg2 < Going to give this a go - pass it on | |
| 04:50 | no seriously, pass it on | |
| 04:55 | dcook | Hmm. Cool beans. |
| 04:55 | I had a friend ask last year why we didn't do something on stackexchange | |
| 04:55 | ccverg joined #koha | |
| 04:55 | wizzyrea | well, if we get a bit of a critical mass we can. |
| 04:55 | we could still use tags to do koha questions | |
| 04:55 | i thought having our own might be nicer. | |
| 04:56 | dcook | tags? |
| 04:56 | wahanui | tags are more for flagging a point in time |
| 04:56 | wizzyrea | oon stack overflow |
| 04:57 | mtj | wizzyrea++ aweSUMMM!! |
| 04:57 | wizzyrea | if someone else wants to send that to the list, I'd be happy |
| 04:57 | eythian | yeah |
| 04:57 | wizzyrea | because even though I started it and I'm willing to put time towards it, I can't be the only one |
| 04:58 | and it will only work if we get a rather big corpus of people asking and answering questions | |
| 04:59 | dcook | I'm down |
| 04:59 | wizzyrea | also please feel free to create example questions |
| 05:00 | mtj | fwiw, i do see some advantages to stack-exchange over the mailling-lists |
| 05:00 | wizzyrea | yep I do too |
| 05:01 | and we've been flagging a bit on questions answered on the lists. | |
| 05:01 | upvoting and downvoting would be super helpful | |
| 05:01 | and it *seems* more accessible to lay-people maybe? idk | |
| 05:01 | anyway - gotta fly, I'm depending on you all. :) | |
| 05:01 | mtj | yes, and yes |
| 05:01 | eythian | I wouldn't put those fake questions in |
| 05:01 | like X and Y | |
| 05:02 | put real ones in. | |
| 05:02 | wizzyrea | Hm they are supposed to be examples though? |
| 05:02 | eythian | they're supposed to be examples of real things |
| 05:03 | > Write an actual question that you might ask on this site. | |
| 05:03 | dcook | ^^ |
| 05:03 | eythian | you wouldn't ask for a report involving X and Y, and it's harder for people looking at it to see the relevance if it's dummy questions. |
| 05:03 | wizzyrea | I think you all can add them too? |
| 05:03 | so please do | |
| 05:04 | plus this every 3 minutes thing is irritating to me :P | |
| 05:04 | but! I will fight through this annoyance to soldier on ;) | |
| 05:05 | and seriously I will need help tending this. | |
| 05:05 | eythian | I can't post anything right now, it tells me to wait 3 minutes. |
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| 05:26 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:48 | mtj | heya cait |
| 05:51 | cait | hi mtj |
| 05:51 | mtj: I think i had a question about one of oyur patches, but i can't remember the bug :( | |
| 05:52 | mtj | aaah, bug 10825 , i think... |
| 05:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10825 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Failed QA , detail.tt displays duplicated enumchron values for serial items |
| 05:55 | cjh | wizzyrea++ stack overflow |
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| 05:57 | marcelr | morning #koha |
| 06:04 | cait | good morning marcelr |
| 06:07 | hm bug 10808 might just fit in before work | |
| 06:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10808 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Thesaurus search form does not correspond to current search query |
| 06:07 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 06:08 | i applied bug 8956 but it is quite huge | |
| 06:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Split serials enumeration data into separate fields |
| 06:08 | marcelr | nine patches |
| 06:09 | cait | marcelr: yeah :( |
| 06:09 | i marked some as new features, i was pondering this to be one too... but it seems more a restructuring | |
| 06:09 | it sure is huge | |
| 06:09 | i am a bit worried if it will allow the same flexibility | |
| 06:09 | marcelr | yes i think so |
| 06:10 | cait | i hope to take a look at acq search tonight |
| 06:10 | just not starting with it this morning | |
| 06:10 | marcelr | :) |
| 06:10 | cait | because i have to set up all kinds of test cases before i run the database update to check if the correct status gets set |
| 06:11 | i think we have a historical low in the queue :) let's see if gbsd can bring the numbers back up | |
| 06:11 | marcelr | yes: 35 now |
| 06:12 | cait | well, a lot of the 'doesn't apply' and 'I have a question' ones will bounce back today probably |
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| 06:16 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:16 | magnuse | happy GBSD #koha! |
| 06:20 | dcook | Hey cait, have time for a quick question? |
| 06:21 | cait | yep |
| 06:21 | dcook | With your union catalogue, how are items handled? |
| 06:21 | Are they added in OCLC or in Koha? | |
| 06:22 | magnuse | no oclc there, i think |
| 06:22 | cait | magnuse: well pica is owned by oclc |
| 06:23 | magnuse | ah, ok. i was thinking about worldcat |
| 06:23 | cait | dcook: we handle them in koha, because we couldn't update them currently |
| 06:23 | magnuse: yep, not worldcat :) | |
| 06:23 | dcook | Mmm, ok |
| 06:23 | I've re-engineered my OAI-PMH harvester, but it currently can't handle items either | |
| 06:23 | As far as I know.. | |
| 06:23 | magnuse | hehe |
| 06:25 | submit it anyway and just say items don't work :-) | |
| 06:25 | dcook | Hmm, actually, maybe embedded items are included...that's not good.. |
| 06:26 | The embedded | |
| 06:26 | item, biblioitem, and biblionumber fields from the previous | |
| 06:26 | version of the bib record replace any such fields of those tags that | |
| 06:26 | are present in C<$record>. Consequently, ModBiblio() is not | |
| 06:26 | to be used to try to modify item records. | |
| 06:26 | O_o | |
| 06:26 | Oh wait, I think that's a good thing.. | |
| 06:27 | Ooo.. | |
| 06:27 | I think AddBiblio will add item records, but ModBiblio strips out the items first... | |
| 06:28 | Anyway, thanks, cait :) | |
| 06:29 | * cait | is confused now |
| 06:31 | dcook | I might be able to have the harvester handle items as well |
| 06:31 | At the moment, I think it will create/delete items... | |
| 06:31 | While updates won't touch items | |
| 06:32 | * dcook | thanks cait and magnuse for their encouragement last week |
| 06:33 | * cait | doesn't know what dcook is talking about :) |
| 06:33 | magnuse | any time! |
| 06:33 | cait | last week is just one big blur :) |
| 06:33 | dcook | heh |
| 06:33 | The OAI-PMH harvester | |
| 06:33 | I ditched the Staged MARC import as it was causing too many problems | |
| 06:33 | Or rather...could've caused too many problems | |
| 06:33 | It's much more streamlined and robust now | |
| 06:34 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:34 | dcook | :D |
| 06:37 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:37 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.1°C (8:35 AM CEST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:37 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:37 | magnuse | hah! |
| 06:37 | dcook | @wunder syd |
| 06:37 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (4:00 PM EST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:38 | magnuse | but autumn is definitely here, including the beautiful colours |
| 06:38 | * dcook | was just thinking your weather didn't seem very summer-like :p |
| 06:38 | cait | hm we don't have the colors yet, but it's cooled down quite a bit obviously |
| 06:38 | magnuse | 2 bugs qa'ed since i checked last night => there is still plenty to feed on for gbsd |
| 06:39 | cait | i already rearranged the clothes in my wardrobe, pulling the warmer things to the front |
| 06:39 | * cait | wonders when the qa queue would turn green |
| 06:39 | cait | passed qa is still green with 55, but we are only yellow with 34 - pff. :) |
| 06:40 | * dcook | didn't realize the colours had significance |
| 06:41 | cait | green is good, yellow not so much |
| 06:44 | ok, time to go to work :) | |
| 06:44 | cya all later | |
| 06:44 | dcook | ta cait |
| 06:45 | magnuse | hm, the colours on the "badges" that contain the numbers do seem to be hard coded: https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]ews/bug_status.tt |
| 06:45 | unless there is some js trickry on top of that... | |
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| 06:45 | magnuse | kia ora rangi_eifl |
| 06:45 | eifl? | |
| 06:46 | * magnuse | pictures rangi at the top of the eifel tower in paris |
| 06:46 | rangi_eifl | http://www.eifl.net/events/qa-[…]per-chris-cormack |
| 06:46 | magnuse | http://www.eifl.net/ - ah the web seminar thingy? |
| 06:46 | rangi_eifl | should be starting in 15 mins or so |
| 06:46 | magnuse | cool! |
| 06:47 | rangi_eifl | we'll see, most of the questions I have seen are not really suited to a webinar, i suspect ill be showing a lot of links :) |
| 06:47 | magnuse | :-) |
| 06:47 | rangi_eifl | plus computers |
| 06:47 | you know its gonna break somehow | |
| 06:48 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:48 | rangi_eifl | had to jump through hoops getting java installed, then allowing applets in firefox |
| 06:49 | cos, i had disabled all that .. who does java applets anymore .. people who like to p0wn people, and webinar software | |
| 06:50 | so its running in its own vm | |
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| 06:50 | rangi_eifl | which can asplode when i finish |
| 06:50 | hence using the oftc web thinger | |
| 06:51 | magnuse | banks tend to like java aplets, but i guess they like to p0wn people... |
| 06:51 | rangi_eifl | https://gnu.org/gnu30/celebration |
| 06:51 | we should do something for this | |
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| 06:52 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:52 | rangi_eifl | https://gnu.org/gnu30/gnu30.html |
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| 06:56 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 06:56 | wahanui | hola, gaetan_B |
| 06:56 | rangi_eifl | heh, timezone fail, its one more hour |
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| 07:06 | samueld | hi everybody |
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| 07:29 | magnuse | http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]DIt70A0SJwD4uepg2 needs 52 more followers - can we get there? |
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| 07:40 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:40 | magnuse | guten morgen kf |
| 07:41 | signed up for stack exchange yet? | |
| 07:41 | kf | um not yet |
| 07:44 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 07:45 | @later tell bgkriegel - seeing your po file for the marc frameworks - great idea :) would it be possible to show the field/subfield somehow in a comment? | |
| 07:45 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:48 | magnuse | more po files? |
| 07:48 | wahanui | more po files are bug 7934 and bug 7939 |
| 07:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po file for help pages |
| 07:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects | |
| 07:51 | magnuse | ah, not directly related, i guess |
| 07:51 | kf | magnuse: not directly... but maybe |
| 07:52 | tcohen++ bgkriegel++ # all the hard work | |
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| 08:27 | kf | hi rangi_eifl :) |
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| 08:41 | kf | magnuse: here? |
| 08:41 | wahanui | it has been said that here is where I work |
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| 09:18 | magnuse | kf: um yup! |
| 09:25 | kf | 18 already? wow |
| 09:29 | rangi | cjh: around? release notes say 3.8.14 |
| 09:30 | cjh | you are kidding, one moment |
| 09:30 | oh the 'the last koha release was...' part | |
| 09:32 | rangi | hmm might have just been your email :) |
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| 09:33 | cjh | ohh bugger, I must have loaded the wrong file into my email client :( |
| 09:33 | rangi | hehe yeah its fine on the website |
| 09:34 | cjh | ty for catching that. |
| 09:35 | rangi | no worries |
| 09:39 | cjh | tlc also appear to be having some network faults(80% packet loss at a node, only getting 60Kb/s to kc), so my upload bailed out at 99% without me noticing, not exactly a smooth release :) |
| 09:40 | rangi | heh |
| 09:40 | yeah its been patchy since the new owners took over | |
| 09:41 | kf | new owners? |
| 09:42 | cjh | nz isps, vodafone bought telstraclear[C |
| 09:42 | kf | oh |
| 09:43 | * kf | curses aobut the daily quotes not moving to the left where i want them to be. |
| 09:43 | kf | sorry :) |
| 09:45 | magnuse | sounds like the related css might need a patch? |
| 09:52 | cjh | and in theory that is all fixed.. sorry about that all, bed time for me I think. |
| 09:52 | new email sent, file re-uploaded. | |
| 09:53 | rangi | :) sleep well |
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| 10:00 | * wizzyrea_web | waves |
| 10:02 | magnuse | half way numbers: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ashing_day#Middle |
| 10:02 | kia ora wizzyrea_web! | |
| 10:02 | cjh++ | |
| 10:03 | "Failed QA" and "Doesn't apply" are deacreasing, at least | |
| 10:03 | :-) | |
| 10:11 | wizzyrea_web | oy I need to get back with her. |
| 10:11 | so many things to do. | |
| 10:13 | * kf | waves at wizzyrea |
| 10:14 | wizzyrea_web | hallo kf! |
| 10:26 | magnuse | wizzyrea++ |
| 10:28 | wizzyrea_web | http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]-library-software nudge nudge |
| 10:29 | magnuse | wink wink |
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| 11:10 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 11:11 | wizzyrea_web | hallo |
| 11:11 | welcome to monday | |
| 11:11 | drojf | :D |
| 11:12 | i put up a limesurvey thingy for the kohacon vote. would be nice if some people could try if it works ok and if so i'd start a fresh copy later today and send it to the lists | |
| 11:13 | http://abunchofthings.net/lime[…]hp/968417/lang-en | |
| 11:15 | have to leave for the library, will check the log later | |
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| 11:53 | magnuse | drojf++ |
| 11:53 | @later tell drojf: the limesurvey thingy works nicely for me | |
| 11:53 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:55 | kf | @later tell drojf: works fine for me too :) |
| 11:55 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:24 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 12:24 | How goes the bug squashing day? | |
| 12:27 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:27 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard. |
| 12:27 | * oleonard | doesn't like bug squashing days that start during his weekend--cuts down on bug-squashing time |
| 12:28 | mtompset | It isn't about quantity. It's about quality. :) |
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| 12:30 | kf | oleonard: i am sure you are going to make up for th emissed time :) |
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| 12:31 | magnuse | oleonard: you still have something like 21.5 hours to go, if you choose hawaii time |
| 12:34 | tcohen | hi magnuse , #koha |
| 12:34 | magnuse | hiya tcohen |
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| 12:36 | magnuse | nudge nudge http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]DIt70A0SJwD4uepg2 |
| 12:37 | tcohen | magnuse++ |
| 12:41 | magnuse | tcohen: are you a follower yet? ;-) |
| 12:42 | tcohen | indeed |
| 12:42 | magnuse | yay! |
| 12:42 | oleonard | Ouch, responsive demo broken. |
| 12:44 | magnuse | oh noes |
| 12:44 | let's all shout to wake up wizzyrea | |
| 12:49 | tcohen | Nahhhh, stick with Wine1.6 instead! |
| 12:50 | oleonard | What's the connection to Koha? |
| 12:50 | tcohen | they seem to be using it to run some library stuff |
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| 12:54 | oleonard | Anyone have a patch they'd like to promote? |
| 12:55 | mtompset | bug 10900 |
| 12:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10900 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Incorrect calling conventions accessing C4::Context |
| 12:55 | * oleonard | isn't qualified to evaluate that patch |
| 12:55 | mtompset | oleonard: read the code, you'll be scared. |
| 12:56 | how about 7764? | |
| 12:56 | bug 7764 | |
| 12:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7764 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , INSTALL.ubuntu needs to be updated |
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| 12:57 | jcamins | Someone remind me why we need a StackExchange site? |
| 12:58 | drojf | hello again #koha |
| 12:58 | oleonard | Because you don't have enough different Koha support venues to follow jcamins |
| 12:58 | mtompset | Greetings, drojf jcamins oleonard magnuse kf. |
| 12:58 | * mtompset | chuckles. |
| 12:59 | oleonard | I hear Koha support questions are not yet being inserted dynamically into your dreams jcamins |
| 12:59 | jcamins | oleonard: right-o, thanks. |
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| 12:59 | magnuse | because it would give us the possibility to down-vote less-than-ideal answers |
| 12:59 | drojf | the log says i should be getting @-later-s. yet there are none. funny |
| 13:00 | mtompset | what log? |
| 13:00 | oleonard | Someone else signed in as drojf and stole them? |
| 13:00 | wahanui | log is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 13:00 | oleonard | wahanui++ |
| 13:00 | mtompset | DOH! It must be morning. |
| 13:00 | Not enough caffeine yet. | |
| 13:00 | magnuse | wahanui++ yeah that was impressive |
| 13:00 | drojf | oleonard: oh, that evil @laternapping i have heard of |
| 13:01 | i did not know it found its way to #koha ;) | |
| 13:04 | marcelr | oleonard: a small patch waiting for some time already? bug 10092 |
| 13:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10092 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Small improvements on serial missinglist and receivedlist |
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| 13:11 | drojf | you can still test run the kohacon vote and complain about whatever you like ;) http://abunchofthings.net/lime[…]hp/968417/lang-en |
| 13:11 | magnuse++ kf++ for trying | |
| 13:12 | jcamins | drojf: I need more cowbell! |
| 13:12 | marcelr | drojf: complain about whatever you like? a dutch site? |
| 13:13 | drojf | jcamins: cowbell? :D |
| 13:14 | ah, leo has a link to that reference, can't watch it here ;) | |
| 13:14 | oh, it's also no longer available due to copyright. so much for that | |
| 13:15 | jcamins | It's an SNL skit. |
| 13:15 | drojf | yes i have found out that much :) |
| 13:17 | * magnuse | wanders off to make dinner - happy bug squashing #koha! |
| 13:20 | oleonard | http://vimeo.com/62471659 |
| 13:24 | kf | dinner... it's so early! |
| 13:25 | drojf | rofl. thanks oleonard |
| 13:25 | hi kf | |
| 13:25 | kf | hi drojf |
| 13:25 | drojf | dinner at 15:30? |
| 13:26 | oleonard | He didn't specify how long it would take him to make dinner |
| 13:26 | kf | hm |
| 13:27 | * kf | imagines an opulent feast |
| 13:27 | drojf | oh i did not read that magnuse was going to make some. i thought kf was havong dinner |
| 13:27 | well, in norway you probably have to go and hunt that bear first and that count as part of the preparation? :P | |
| 13:27 | or a nice moose | |
| 13:28 | * drojf | would like an opulent feast |
| 13:30 | drojf | i am not sure if i want to record the IP addresses of the votes. i'm not planning to do real checking (and multiple votes from an ip can of course be normal), but it might be useful to see if hundreds of votes come from the same place. on the other hand, i don't think anybody cared about that the last years, so i'm not sure. opinions? |
| 13:31 | i would not publish the addresses afterwards of course | |
| 13:31 | jcamins | drojf: may as well because disk space is cheap? |
| 13:32 | kf | jcamins: that's not the question here - it's a privacy question |
| 13:32 | :) | |
| 13:32 | nengard | drojf in past years i didn't track IPs just emails - you had to have a unique email address |
| 13:32 | kf | drojf: I think we required a name and email address in the past |
| 13:32 | nengard | and asked for organization but didn't require it |
| 13:32 | I have the old surveys still on my server | |
| 13:32 | kf | drojf: I think a unique email address would make sense to me, and a note ont he front page that it won't be published, ip addresses not tracked etc. |
| 13:34 | drojf | i was thinking of email addresses, but since they are not checked you could fill that with anything too ;) |
| 13:34 | samueld | hi everybody |
| 13:34 | jcamins | You need some sort of identifying information, for when someone challenges the results, and IP address is probably the least identifiable. |
| 13:35 | nengard | drojf i checked them |
| 13:35 | and i had a validation script set up | |
| 13:35 | to make sure it was valid | |
| 13:35 | drojf | in limesurvey? or manually? |
| 13:35 | nengard | validation in limesurvey |
| 13:35 | and skimmed them with my eyes for fake ones (@test.com) or whatever | |
| 13:36 | drojf | and by validation you mean the format of an email address or something that checks if you can send an email to it? |
| 13:36 | nengard | if you all need i can just recreate the old one ... no one asked me to this time ... but I have it all set on my server still from the last 2 |
| 13:36 | * oleonard | pities the poor survey participants who work for test.com |
| 13:36 | nengard | :) |
| 13:36 | validation = make sure it's formatted as an actual email address | |
| 13:37 | * jcamins | has a friend who uses example.tld for his mail server. |
| 13:37 | samueld | i've a question : as member of the team for the next release, i 've been elected as vm manager (and for the documentation).I begin to work on it but i 'd like to know where this vm could be hosted and how to plan the release of the vm. I've vm for 3.12 but in french for the moment :-) |
| 13:37 | drojf | ok then i'll add the field. gotta run. see you later |
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| 13:37 | kf | nengard: i think drojf is almost done |
| 13:38 | nengard: it hink maybe you we should delete the data from the old surveys at some point | |
| 13:39 | marjorieCCSR | hi, i have a question for deleted biblio |
| 13:40 | nengard | kf i have the format saved for easy recreation - not the data |
| 13:41 | kf | marjorieCCSR: you will have to ask it for us to answer :) |
| 13:41 | marjorieCCSR | ok thanks, it's the first time i use tchat |
| 13:42 | i'm french so excuse for my poor english | |
| 13:42 | how to recover a biblio deleted | |
| 13:43 | kf | marjorieCCSR: it's currently not possible, the data is still there, but there is no functionality to recover it using the interface |
| 13:43 | marjorieCCSR: such things were possible in very early version of Koha (so I have been told), but some of it got lost along the way. it would be a nice feature to bring back | |
| 13:44 | marjorieCCSR: you can query the information of your deleted biblios using reports and the deletedbiblio, deletedbiblioitems and deleteditems tables | |
| 13:44 | tcohen | oh, koha-perldeps, not koha-deps |
| 13:44 | testing 3.12.5 tarball install | |
| 13:45 | marjorieCCSR | i tried to use stage marc record, the biblio was imported very well but not the items |
| 13:46 | kf | marjorieCCSR: aah, then i might have misunderstood what you meant with deleted |
| 13:46 | marjorieCCSR: i think we need more information about what you want to do | |
| 13:47 | marjorieCCSR | ok, i will try to explain |
| 13:49 | I can export the good biblio with the items from a backup and i tried to import it | |
| 13:51 | import was successful but the items were not created. | |
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| 13:59 | kf | marjorieCCSR: did you select that items hsould be created in staged marc import? |
| 14:00 | marjorieCCSR | yes |
| 14:00 | kf | marjorieCCSR: oh. did you check your record has items actually? |
| 14:00 | marjorieCCSR: if you are using marc21 there shoudl be 952 fields | |
| 14:05 | marjorieCCSR | yes but they are not in the biblio. When i made the import, the message for the items was good "Number of items added 703" |
| 14:10 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:10 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #144: "library_systems_guy: (xslt) looks like html and lisp had an ugly baby." (added by wizzyrea at 08:48 PM, June 30, 2011) |
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| 15:15 | oleonard | Hooray! An hour and fifteen minutes talking about RDA! |
| 15:15 | * oleonard | keels over |
| 15:16 | marjorieCCSR | kf: sorry. in the file mrc imported there is no 952 but when i did the export i choose to export items. |
| 15:20 | druthb | oleonard: I'd rather do that, than what I'm doing. |
| 15:20 | wahanui: ruby on rails? | |
| 15:20 | wahanui | druthb: i don't know |
| 15:20 | druthb | oh. |
| 15:21 | Ruby on Rails is a poor perversion of Perl done by people who apparently didn't think the Perl community was "nice" enough. | |
| 15:21 | ruby on rails? | |
| 15:21 | wahanui | somebody said ruby on rails was a poor perversion of Perl done by people who apparently didn't think the Perl community was "nice" enough. |
| 15:21 | * druthb | nods. |
| 15:22 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack Ruby on Rails trainer |
| 15:22 | wahanui | :) |
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| 15:24 | * druthb | blames nengard. |
| 15:24 | druthb | ohai, nengard! |
| 15:24 | * druthb | looks innocent. |
| 15:24 | nengard | um |
| 15:25 | * druthb | is in a Ruby on Rails class today and tomorrow, so the snark may be running thick. Beware. |
| 15:26 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:29 | kf | marjorieCCSR: I am sorry, i am at work and couldn't check IRC for a while. |
| 15:29 | marjorieCCSR | kf: ok thanks |
| 15:29 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 15:29 | kf | marjorieCCSR: not sure about your problem - if the record has no items, that's the problem. Depending on the version you come from it might be a bug fixed |
| 15:30 | marjorieCCSR | i think there is a problem to export |
| 15:30 | kf | marjorieCCSR: yes, it looks like it |
| 15:30 | i am sorry, i have to run | |
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| 15:31 | marjorieCCSR | ok bye, thanks |
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| 15:48 | druthb | Ruby is a language where they have a fetish about not using standard development terms: threads are called "fibers", libraries are "gems"…wait, what? |
| 15:48 | wahanui: ruby? | |
| 15:48 | wahanui | ruby is probably easy to install. Any > 1.8.7 works fine |
| 15:48 | druthb | puh |
| 15:54 | rambuten | I've known Ruby developers that are just totally worshipers of the language, and claim to do great and wonderous works with it. |
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| 15:56 | druthb | Oh, I'm listening to one of those now. She's done everything but solve world hunger, apparently, but didn't know what cPanel does as a business. |
| 16:03 | gmcharlt | jcamins: apropos of bug 8952, what /is/ the canonical way for a Plack application to tell if a given request was made over HTTP or HTTPS? |
| 16:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8952 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Add http:// to url in social media links on opac-detail |
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| 16:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #115 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:14 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ad749dfa64e62a76> / Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f32a2862b578a04c> |
| 16:35 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]60eb1771bcce0492e> | |
| 16:35 | druthb | oh, gods…now she's teaching a room full of coders who use git *every day* about git. |
| 16:35 | oleonard | Someone stop her |
| 16:36 | druthb | do not tempt me in that fashion, oleonard. |
| 16:36 | Do not. | |
| 16:36 | cait | hm? |
| 16:36 | who is? | |
| 16:37 | oleonard | Why not, druthb? Raise you hand and politely say that she's covering something you're familiar with? |
| 16:38 | druthb | That's been done, by someone else. She even asked, "you guys familiar with git?" "yep." |
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| 16:43 | druthb | oh, and now she's carrying on about a ruby gem that acts as a wrapper for git… can we do that with Koha, gmcharlt, and confuse *everyone*? Pleeeeeeease? |
| 16:43 | gmcharlt | druthb: no |
| 16:43 | druthb | darn. |
| 16:43 | * gmcharlt | is still traumatized by the executable line noise that is edi4r |
| 16:44 | mtompset | druthb: Who is teaching? |
| 16:44 | druthb | @quote random |
| 16:44 | huginn | druthb: Quote #173: "rangi: there is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to. Please punish the whole world for me.'" (added by wizzyrea at 05:10 PM, December 09, 2011) |
| 16:45 | druthb | mtompset: lady named Renée De Voursney. Owns her own Ruby consultancy in Seattle. |
| 16:46 | I just kind of wonder if we're actually going to see any Ruby code. We haven't, yet. | |
| 16:46 | (almost 3 hours in…and haven't seen a *line* of Ruby code. | |
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| 16:48 | cait | druthb: what's the training about officially? |
| 16:48 | druthb | Ruby on Rails deployment and administration. |
| 16:51 | Inadequate preparation, lack of knowledge about our company, lack of listening to our needs… not impressed. | |
| 16:52 | rambuten | Sometimes it's important to judge such training sessions by the amenities. How are the hors d'oeuvres? Good coffee? Variety of fruit juices? Nice, clean restrooms? Free pens, notepaper, coffee cups? |
| 16:54 | druthb | I agree, rambuten…but this one is in our shop, so all the usual amenities are here—catered lunch, free sodas, our usual restroom, and smokin' fast wifi. |
| 16:54 | rambuten | well |
| 16:55 | druthb | we're paying her for this? Lordy. |
| 16:55 | uhm. | |
| 16:56 | She's teaching us how to test Ruby code—before we've actually seen any Ruby code. | |
| 16:56 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #115: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/115/ |
| 16:56 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice | |
| 16:56 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window | |
| 16:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10305 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , _increment_barcode is called twice |
| 16:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10847 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Open external link to website of a vendor in new tab/window | |
| 16:56 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #116 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:57 | druthb | omg. I just *told* her she has put the cart before the horse….and she totally isn't getting it. |
| 16:59 | * druthb | bangs her head against the desk |
| 17:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #368 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:01 | Project Koha_Docs build #368: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/368/ | |
| 17:01 | Nicole C. Engard: update cover images w/ delete | |
| 17:04 | * mtompset | can imagine druthb flaying the speaker with a prosthetic leg screaming, "We already know git. Where is the Ruby Code?!" |
| 17:05 | druthb | tempting, mtompset. Very, very tempting. |
| 17:06 | mtompset | Your self-control is admirable. |
| 17:07 | druthb | One of the Ruby 'thangs' is called 'test-driven development". Write your tests before you write your code. |
| 17:07 | cait | mtompset: she just got new skin on that, so it doesn't seem like a good idea |
| 17:08 | mtompset | True, but if you are frustrated, sometimes you are pushed to do not so good things. |
| 17:09 | druthb | I'm just *stunned* more than frustrated. |
| 17:15 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]75ca69736bb40ee2c> |
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| 17:15 | mtompset | Wasn't that bot for checking "Needs Signoff" going to be running? |
| 17:16 | I found a bug that needed sign off, but it didn't apply. | |
| 17:18 | cait | mtompset: i think it might still be wip |
| 17:18 | mtompset | wip? |
| 17:19 | rambuten | whiskey in progress? |
| 17:20 | mtompset | Ah... because I did see it run once on a bug that I commented on. |
| 17:21 | rambuten: I think it only becomes a whiskey in progress at beer o'clock. | |
| 17:21 | * druthb | perks. |
| 17:21 | druthb | Whiskey? |
| 17:22 | cait | druthb: alcohol is no solution |
| 17:22 | chocolate is :) | |
| 17:23 | druthb | good plan! |
| 17:24 | mtompset | Cherry and rum filled chocolate balls? ;) |
| 17:38 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #116: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/116/ |
| 17:38 | Mathieu Saby: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files | |
| 17:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT should be removed |
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| 17:50 | marjorieCCSR | hi, export data tool do not export items of one record ? on the other side, it works when i save on marcUTF8 directly in a biblio record. Is anyone tested export data tool with item? |
| 17:50 | tcohen | do we need to properly answer the questions at SE magnuse? |
| 17:51 | i mean, if this gets approved: will this go public? | |
| 17:52 | cait | tcohen: i think it already is public - on twiter and everywhere? |
| 17:52 | marjorieCCSR: which version of koha are you on? | |
| 17:52 | tcohen | cait: ok, thanks |
| 17:53 | marjorieCCSR | cait: 3.08.05 |
| 17:54 | cait | marjorieCCSR: that's qute old by now |
| 17:55 | tcohen | =~ /CCSR// |
| 17:56 | cait | marjorieCCSR: checking if i can find a bug in bugzilla |
| 17:56 | marjorieCCSR | ok thanks |
| 17:57 | cait | hm |
| 17:57 | bug 9046 | |
| 17:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl |
| 17:58 | marjorieCCSR | huginn : ok thanks |
| 17:58 | cait | marjorieCCSR: huginn is a bot :) he reacted to my 'bug 9046' :) |
| 17:58 | saves us from copying bugzilla links :) | |
| 17:58 | the problem is, the bug was only fixed in 3.10 | |
| 17:59 | I think updating might be problematic for you (customizations?), but maybe it could be backported | |
| 18:00 | huginn | marjorieCCSR: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 18:00 | mtompset | But comment 7 says it was pushed to master, cait. |
| 18:00 | oh, never mind. | |
| 18:00 | we're talking about 3.8.5 | |
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| 18:01 | wahanui | Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. |
| 18:01 | marjorieCCSR | cait: ok |
| 18:01 | cait | hm it might be also affected by this bug |
| 18:01 | but you coudl try sending yourself a cart with your records from the opac | |
| 18:01 | it attaches a marc file - but i tmight be missing the item data too | |
| 18:02 | marjorieCCSR | cait: we will have 3.12 soon, so i will wait. |
| 18:03 | cait | marjorieCCSR: ok :) |
| 18:04 | marjorieCCSR | cait: thanks for your help. bye |
| 18:06 | mtompset | Actually the bug is easy enough to backport. |
| 18:06 | Just a tiny conflict to resolve. | |
| 18:07 | Should I submit the backport? | |
| 18:08 | What do you think, cait? | |
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| 18:09 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 18:09 | tough day here | |
| 18:10 | mtompset | Well, you got a release done. |
| 18:10 | tcohen++ | |
| 18:10 | bgkriegel | go relax tcohen |
| 18:10 | cait | mtompset: if she will update to 3.12 soon i am not sure it will be used |
| 18:10 | hm we still maintain 3.8... right? | |
| 18:10 | mtompset | yes. |
| 18:10 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 18:10 | mtompset | 3.8.18 was just released. |
| 18:11 | cait | i only confuse numbers these days :) |
| 18:13 | mtompset | Which frankly is a really long support cycle for 3.8.x |
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| 18:14 | oleonard | We support releases as long as there is a release maintainer who wants to do it |
| 18:15 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ee0e63b12260db01> |
| 18:21 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #117: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/117/ |
| 18:21 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields | |
| 18:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10911 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Records with 880 fields have broken details links in intranet search results using XSLT. |
| 18:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #118 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:22 | mtompset | So, if I decide to post the backport, should I start a new bug for the 3.8.x version, or do I change the status of RESOLVED FIXED on the old one? |
| 18:24 | oleonard | In the past I've seen patches for previous versions go on the same bug mtompset |
| 18:24 | maximep | I just love when my client asks questions here :D |
| 18:24 | save me from doing it lol | |
| 18:24 | *saves | |
| 18:25 | mtompset | maximep: You trained them well then. :) |
| 18:25 | maximep | would be better if I could have time to do the 3.8 backport myself, but oh well |
| 18:25 | mtompset | Seriously... 2 minutes. |
| 18:28 | druthb | finally, getting to hack some Ruby code! wahoo! |
| 18:32 | mtompset | maximep: patch posted on the bug 9046. |
| 18:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, REOPENED , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl |
| 18:32 | mtompset | The second patch is basically identical. |
| 18:32 | The first patch is an addition of one line. | |
| 18:33 | vs. changing one line (3.10.x) | |
| 18:33 | Though, I suppose the use of any over grep wasn't a big thing back then. :) | |
| 18:40 | maximep | mtompset++ |
| 18:41 | mtompset | You're welcome. :) |
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| 18:44 | cait | gmcharlt++ :) |
| 18:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #369 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:46 | Project Koha_Docs build #369: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/369/ | |
| 18:46 | Nicole C. Engard: update staff list image | |
| 18:48 | jcamins | gmcharlt: unfortunately, it's kind of difficult. |
| 18:50 | gmcharlt: indeed, I'm not entirely sure it can be done from within the CGI-emulated system. | |
| 18:51 | mtompset | ??? |
| 18:51 | gmcharlt | short of baking in https://github.com/plack/Plack[…]-and-SSL-frontend in the default Plack config, I suppose? |
| 18:52 | mtompset | Ah, that question. |
| 18:52 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | jcamins: any reason not to do that? |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Every time I bring up reverse proxies, it seems like someone objects. Other than that, no. |
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| 18:54 | jcamins | I already use ReverseProxy middleware for myself. |
| 18:56 | gmcharlt | I'm inclined to run with that, then -- reasonably supporting SSL-only is too important, IMO |
| 18:57 | jcamins | Makes sense to me. |
| 18:58 | gmcharlt | could you work up a patch for that? |
| 18:58 | jcamins | There's not really anywhere in Koha for that patch to go. |
| 18:58 | Just the wiki. | |
| 19:00 | gmcharlt | hmm, yeah |
| 19:00 | ought we to take up 7844 again and just ship a Plack config? | |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Seems reasonable to me. |
| 19:02 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #118: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/118/ |
| 19:02 | Owen Leonard: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC | |
| 19:02 | cait | bug 7844 |
| 19:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Contact note not updating via opac |
| 19:02 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , plack scripts for developers | |
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| 19:03 | mtompset | Will packages eventually use Plack by default? |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Presumably. |
| 19:06 | gmcharlt: Jonathan's third patch looks reasonable to me, though. | |
| 19:06 | i.e. I would probably push as-is, and kick the can down the road a little further on Plack+HTTPS-only. | |
| 19:07 | gmcharlt | jcamins: OK, to be clear, does $using_https get computed correctly under Plack with his patch? |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Let me check. |
| 19:08 | No. | |
| 19:08 | Okay, I probably wouldn't push it then. | |
| 19:09 | Hm. Hold on. | |
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| 19:11 | cait | hm hope people agree with the idea... i started a wiki page for the hackfest: |
| 19:11 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohacon13/Hackfest | |
| 19:12 | jcamins | This is... odd. |
| 19:13 | How do I find out the version of a Perl module? | |
| 19:13 | gmcharlt | hope that $Foo::Bar::VERSION is defined |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 19:14 | Looks like it was. | |
| 19:14 | CGI::Emulate::PSGI 0.12. | |
| 19:17 | This is odd. I'm seeing status changes from the bot but no messages. | |
| 19:18 | I wonder if it's my e-mail or a change in bot behavior. | |
| 19:18 | cait | no messages if the patch applies i think |
| 19:18 | just updating the date in the new field | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:18 | I see. | |
| 19:19 | That makes sense. | |
| 19:20 | gmcharlt: okay, I have figured it out. | |
| 19:20 | If you are using a reverse proxy with Plack, HTTPS is not set at all. | |
| 19:20 | The ON/OFF thing is only for if you are not using a reverse proxy. | |
| 19:21 | Which is... weird. | |
| 19:21 | And seems improbable. | |
| 19:21 | * jcamins | kicks his server repeatedly. |
| 19:22 | gmcharlt | one thing I'm seeing is that it looks like psgi.url_scheme would get set correctly if one is using starman >= 0.4000 |
| 19:22 | jcamins | How do I see _all_ environment variables that are set? |
| 19:22 | %ENV seems not to be doing the trick here. | |
| 19:22 | gmcharlt | as that's when it starts explicitly supporting SSL |
| 19:24 | jcamins | $input->https() returns 'HTTPS' |
| 19:26 | But $ENV{'HTTPS'} returns OFF. | |
| 19:26 | And %ENV doesn't show an HTTPS member at all. | |
| 19:26 | cait | @wunder Reno |
| 19:27 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 19:27 | cait | @wunder Reno, Nevada |
| 19:27 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 18.5°C (12:15 PM PDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:27 | gmcharlt | jcamins: not keys %ENV ? |
| 19:28 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 19:28 | rambuten | @wunder RNO |
| 19:28 | huginn | rambuten: The current temperature in Reno, Nevada is 19.0°C (11:55 AM PDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:28 | jcamins | I was using Data::Dumper. I'll try keys. |
| 19:29 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 19:29 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 31.1°C (2:29 PM CDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:29 | jcamins | Huh. That lists it. |
| 19:32 | Ah-ha! | |
| 19:32 | gmcharlt: the patch is fine. | |
| 19:33 | CGI->https() uses some sort of disturbing wizardry that doesn't play nicely with Data::Dumper. | |
| 19:33 | gmcharlt | but upshot is that $using_https is set correctly for you? what's your overall Plack setup? |
| 19:34 | in particular, what version of Starman? | |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Starman 0.2014. |
| 19:35 | Wait... this is weird. | |
| 19:35 | gmcharlt | which is weird, because looking at https://metacpan.org/source/MI[…]Starman/Server.pm, psgi.url_scheme is forced to http |
| 19:35 | jcamins | Oh, never mind. |
| 19:35 | wahanui | Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. |
| 19:35 | jcamins | Oh, no, it definitely doesn't work with HTTPS. |
| 19:36 | I mean, it doesn't break regular HTTP, so I'd be fine with the patch. | |
| 19:36 | What I thought was weird a moment ago was that despite the links saying http:// I ended up at https:// but that's because the login pages redirect to https. | |
| 19:36 | * gmcharlt | is still inclined to try it with Starman 0.4-latest |
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| 19:40 | cait | bgkriegel++ coming up with new ideas to make translator's lifes easier! |
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| 19:54 | pianohacker | Woohah. Got everything nailed down. See you all in Reno! |
| 19:55 | cait | :) |
| 19:55 | cool | |
| 19:55 | did you see the wiki page for arrivals? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohacon13/Arrivals | |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | ah, yes. Still need to pick flight times, but will put that down once I do, thanks |
| 19:56 | drojf | finally sent out the email for kohacon voting. sorry for the delay |
| 19:57 | cait | pianohacker: i am waiting on feedback/rebases for some of your patches... *hint* :) |
| 19:57 | drojf++ | |
| 19:57 | rangi | right, the bot is now skipping stuff that has been recently checked |
| 19:57 | cait | rangi++ |
| 19:57 | rangi | Skipping bug, was checked 0 days ago |
| 19:57 | cait | seems i am not stopping giving out karma tonight :) |
| 19:57 | koha++! | |
| 19:57 | pianohacker | You have one heck of a transfer set up cait |
| 19:57 | cait | pianohacker: well not worse than rangi's it seems |
| 19:58 | pianohacker | heh true |
| 19:58 | cait | counting the stops |
| 19:58 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7288 |
| 19:58 | huginn | 04Bug 7288: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Invoice improvements - Show only subscriptions |
| 19:58 | cait | or tcohen's :) |
| 19:58 | rangi | see the new field, that tracks when the bot last looked at it |
| 19:58 | pianohacker | as far as 8133, well, still figuring out what to do about that |
| 20:02 | * mtompset | puts on his chauffeur hat again. |
| 20:02 | rangi | bbiab school run |
| 20:33 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "not actually a huge deal" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/223 |
| 20:35 | cait | gmcharlt: what are we looking at? :) |
| 20:35 | btw | |
| 20:35 | i just noticed: It's already QA sprint day! and still GBSD! | |
| 20:35 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: re: my-variables-in-file-scope-kills-plack mail from earlier? |
| 20:37 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: er, what such email? in the coding guidelines and plack thread? if so, I don't see a rsponse from you. |
| 20:38 | pianohacker | oh, no, just wondering if that's what the paste was about |
| 20:38 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: ah, misunderstood -- I had read it as ' re: *my* my-variables-in-file-scope-kills-plack mail from earlier?' |
| 20:38 | but yes, that's the thread I mean | |
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| 20:42 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: Curses, sorry. Talking about perl can be confusing like that :) |
| 20:55 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "subroutines referring to package-level lexicals in C4" (91 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/224 |
| 20:56 | * cait | is still confused :) |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | cait: I've now sent the email to koha-devel that should make it more clear :) |
| 20:57 | cait | wrk mail kicks me out in 3 mins... that's just in time :) |
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| 20:57 | * jeff | yawns |
| 20:57 | jeff | greetings. |
| 20:57 | cait | hi |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | jeff: wake up! |
| 20:57 | ;) | |
| 20:58 | jeff | :-) |
| 20:58 | Dyrcona++ for reminding me (unintentionally) that I'd not re-joined #koha recently | |
| 21:01 | Dyrcona | heh. |
| 21:01 | Dyrcona-- # for forgetting to sign off rangi's commits in another project | |
| 21:01 | huginn | Dyrcona: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
| 21:01 | Dyrcona | hah. |
| 21:01 | Saved by the hall monitor. :) | |
| 21:04 | * cait | will take cookies to decrease karma |
| 21:04 | cait | ;) |
| 21:05 | Dyrcona | Being told not "to karma yourself" makes it sound ... dirty. |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | hallo |
| 21:09 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
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| 21:40 | pianohacker | I think I've found a cheap, JS-compatible regex that doesn't match anything, and I love it: /^.^/ |
| 21:42 | jcamins | pianohacker: some regex parsers will only treat ^ as special at the beginning of the string. |
| 21:42 | pianohacker | jcamins: Thankfully not including at least firefox's regex parser, but good catch |
| 21:44 | jcamins: PHP for one will do that, no? | |
| 21:44 | * jcamins | converts MARC to JSON in one terminal, and loads the JSON in another terminal. |
| 21:44 | jcamins | This is such a terrible idea I can hardly express it. |
| 21:44 | Let's see what happens, shall we? | |
| 21:45 | pianohacker: yep. | |
| 21:45 | pianohacker | eenteresting |
| 21:45 | jcamins: Felt like being the pipe(2) system call today, hmm? :) | |
| 21:47 | jcamins | pianohacker: I got bored of waiting for the MARC->JSON conversion to complete. |
| 21:47 | I figured, 4-core system, might as well use more than one of 'em. | |
| 21:48 | pianohacker | jcamins: What tool are you using? I can't remember which project it was, but I was looking for a good MARC-as-JSON "schema" |
| 21:48 | jcamins | MARC::File::MiJ |
| 21:50 | pianohacker | oh hi galen |
| 21:51 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: what's up? |
| 21:51 | pianohacker | just another MARC-related .pm that you wrote :) |
| 21:51 | jcamins | Hmmm... where's the data going? |
| 21:53 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: nuh-uh! Bill Dueber wrote it -- I just worked with him to fold it into the MARC/Perl umbrella :) |
| 21:53 | jcamins | It went... nowhere. |
| 21:53 | Odd. | |
| 21:53 | pianohacker | I'm not sure if I should believe you, gmcharlt... |
| 21:54 | gmcharlt | I'm not BillDueber! I swear it! ;) |
| 21:54 | pianohacker | It's like saying there's a .tt owen hasn't touched |
| 21:54 | rangi | whoops |
| 21:54 | cait | hi rangi |
| 21:54 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=7683#c33 |
| 21:54 | huginn | 04Bug 7683: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , statistic wizard: cataloging |
| 21:54 | cait | whoops |
| 21:54 | heh | |
| 21:54 | rangi | i probably dont need to put that message on for all the patches |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:55 | rangi | just once is enough :) |
| 21:55 | cait | I'd think so :) |
| 21:55 | rangi: hm another idea for an enh | |
| 21:56 | could it mark patches that dpeend on something that can't be tested (does not apply, in discussion etc.) as blocked? and unblock it later on? | |
| 21:56 | we had a lot of those dependencies in the list of patches in the past and it was sometimes a bit hard to untangle where you could actually start | |
| 21:57 | rangi | it might do block at some point |
| 21:57 | for now it will note it on the bug | |
| 21:57 | cait | yep that's already great |
| 21:57 | rangi | but if it seems to be being not false positives it could start blocking |
| 21:57 | jcamins | Okay, there's the data. |
| 21:58 | I'm not 100% sure where it was writing the data to earlier. | |
| 21:59 | I suppose to a folder with several gigabytes of unidentifiable data. | |
| 22:00 | rangi | ill just iron the kinks out first |
| 22:01 | cait | rangi: we will keep an eye on it :) |
| 22:01 | should the new bot get a name? | |
| 22:02 | edveal left #koha | |
| 22:03 | jcamins | Gesamtkunstwerk. We should talk about Gesamtkunstwerk more often on #koha. |
| 22:03 | rangi | hmm? |
| 22:03 | wizzyrea | i am afraid to google that |
| 22:03 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=8064#c24 |
| 22:03 | huginn | 04Bug 8064: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Merge several biblio records |
| 22:03 | rangi | thats better |
| 22:04 | cait | hm native speakers |
| 22:04 | jcamins | We need an animated gif for the tumblr. I shall ponder. |
| 22:04 | cait | is 'issues claims' a good name for the sql profile for exporting late issues as csv file? |
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| 22:06 | cait | noone? |
| 22:06 | wahanui | noone is, like, here |
| 22:06 | eythian | hi |
| 22:06 | wahanui | kai ora, eythian |
| 22:06 | cait | morning eythian |
| 22:07 | eythian | what are "late issues"? |
| 22:07 | cait | serial issues that didn't arrive when they should have |
| 22:07 | eythian | oh right |
| 22:08 | then it seems reasonable to me. More or less what it already is called in the interface. | |
| 22:33 | gmcharlt | cait: serial "claims", at least as used by NA libraries, don't occur until the library has actually requested delivery or replacement of a late issue |
| 22:34 | cait | gmcharlt: i think koha does not differentiate here |
| 22:35 | gmcharlt | yeah, at least not currently, though it could be enhanced to do so |
| 22:35 | cait | gmcharlt: I am still pondering bug 10807 and the subs in the new module |
| 22:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , OPAC: There is no authority search history |
| 22:35 | gmcharlt | maybe "issues to claim" as the name of the profile? |
| 22:36 | cait | hm i think for the profile it would look not quite right, but just a feeling |
| 22:36 | or maybe it would | |
| 22:36 | i will suggest it | |
| 22:41 | ... and now i better sleep :) | |
| 22:41 | good night all | |
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| 23:42 | * dcook | didn't need to sign up to follow the Koha Stackexchange... |
| 23:43 | dcook | Just an email address |
| 23:43 | * dcook | realizes how out of the blue those comments are |
| 23:43 | * eythian | prefers to use openid, though SE's interface for that needs some work. |
| 23:45 | dcook | Hmm, not sure I'm a fan of all the info it would take... |
| 23:47 | eythian | that's why openid lets you provide whatever info you like |
| 23:48 | dcook | O_o |
| 23:48 | eythian | but also my openid provider requires the use of two-factor auth, which is nice. |
| 23:51 | dcook | Which provider do you use? |
| 23:53 | wizzyrea | also USE YOUR VOTES |
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