IRC log for #koha, 2013-09-16

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00:02 wizzyrea Challenge: describe Koha in one sentence. Go.
00:04 jcamins Wow. That rye dough sounds amazing.
00:04 A shame the recipe says "let sit two days."
00:04 * dcook doesn't think that sounds like Koha at all.
00:05 jcamins "Koha is an open source integrated library system developed by over a hundred developers -- paid and volunteered -- from all over the world that manages every step of a library's workflow."
00:09 wizzyrea a good one
00:10 dcook hehe
00:11 wizzyrea hehe
00:13 dcook "Koha is not wisdom tooth pain."
00:13 Just staying on target...
00:14 wizzyrea ooooo
00:14 * jcamins read "perhaps even an autopsy for libraries."
00:15 dcook I imagine more libraries have need for a vivisection than an autopsy.
00:15 * dcook hopes
00:15 jcamins lol
00:15 dcook I mean that in the most loving way possibly btw :p
00:16 possible*
00:17 wizzyrea hm I thought the bot ignored retweets.
00:18 dcook Hmm, spamming #koha with retweets of #kohails...
00:18 rangi yeah it used to
00:24 mtj_ hmm, i though it ignored retweets too ^^ :/
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00:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1417: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1417/
00:42 dcook Arg...this barcode plugin always drives me nuts..
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00:47 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:52 tcohen hi dcook rangi wizzyrea mtompset
00:53 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. :)
00:53 wizzyrea hallo
00:53 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea. :)
00:54 tcohen there was an earthquake in nz today?
00:54 how r u all?
00:54 dcook hey ya tcohen
00:54 hey mtompset
00:54 wahanui mtompset is disliking finding bugs while testing.
00:54 mtompset Greetings, dcook. :)
00:54 Actually, no. Now I'm anxiously awaiting someone to sign off a bug for me, so that it'll make it past the slush point.
00:56 wizzyrea send a message to the list?
00:56 dcook Oh yeah...
00:57 * dcook needs to remember to message the list one of these days
00:57 dcook And possibly post a revised patch..
00:57 tcohen i'm glad 10678 got pushed, happy librarians are always a good thing
00:57 mtompset wizzyrea: I don't want people frowning at me for pimping my patch.
00:57 wizzyrea they do that?
00:58 dcook List = potentially more people interested/people with time to test
00:58 mtompset Well, I did get a -- for bringing up a patch number over multiple days in a row a while back.
00:58 True enough.
00:58 I didn't ask the list.
00:58 wizzyrea that's kind of different.
00:59 tcohen some *cough cpanel *cough person hammered some people once
00:59 wizzyrea wot
00:59 I must have missed that
01:00 rangi you can't listen to anyone, who's website has DMCA protected on it
01:01 seriously, scroll to the bottom
01:01 tcohen which one rangi?
01:01 rangi cpanel
01:01 wizzyrea uhh
01:01 wot
01:02 tcohen :d
01:02 dcook O_o
01:02 wizzyrea DMCA .com is the global leader in DMCA Copyright Infringement Takedowns. o.O
01:02 srs.
01:02 new lows.
01:04 mtompset "As seen in Cosmopolitan"?!
01:04 rangi anyway, that was a digression
01:05 mtompset Why in the world is DMCA advertising there?!
01:05 rangi who cares about proprietary software ;) back to important stuff
01:05 dcook ^^
01:05 rangi if you want your patch signed, you should do a trade with someone
01:07 dcook mtompset: What's the bug number?
01:07 wahanui the bug number is probably wrong in the subject.
01:07 dcook I probably don't have time to sign off, but I'll give it a brief read if nothing else
01:08 mtompset 10876
01:08 dcook bug 10876
01:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10876 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix opac-MARCdetail.pl partial hides
01:08 mtompset (depends on 10584 and 10872 which both have passed QA)
01:09 * tcohen will take a look tomorrow at work, now to bed
01:10 tcohen have a nice day people
01:10 dcook ta tcohen
01:11 mtompset Bye, tcohen.
01:12 dcook I'm sure it'll get through
01:12 When's the slush?
01:12 slush?
01:12 feature slush?
01:12 wahanui feature slush is March 15.
01:12 jcamins release schedule?
01:12 wahanui rumour has it release schedule is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline
01:13 dcook Well that's ages away
01:13 jcamins No, that was last feature slush.
01:13 dcook I know :p
01:13 Just being facetious in an attempt to be funny
01:13 Clearly, the pain is getting to be too much. Perhaps someone should take me out back and shoot me.
01:14 O_o
01:14 * dcook goes back to bug land
01:16 dcook I read "constructTrNode" as "constructTorNode"
01:16 That would be rather devious
01:33 Interesting...
01:33 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
01:33 dcook barcode plugin for "<branch>yymm00001" works in Cataloguing but not Acquisitions...
01:36 Ahhhh
01:36 Maybe because the Javascript is actually there...
01:51 wth...
01:53 Mmmm
02:15 So confused..
02:19 Interesting...Chrome seems to process the Javascript provided by itemrecorddisplay.pl but it doesn't show it anywhere...
02:19 * dcook had to use IE to actually debug the Javascript...
02:20 refuses to give IE any positive karma nonetheless...
02:24 * wizzyrea likes firebug for that sort of thing
02:25 dcook I might have to give it a try one of these days
02:25 wizzyrea also canijustsay that the ff inspector is totally pants.
02:25 dcook It seems really funny...
02:25 ff inspector is absolutely pants
02:25 It's odd...the embedded Javascript seems to be removed from the HTML that's received by the AJAX call
02:25 wizzyrea what they needed to do was hire the firebug guy or buy his software and integrate it
02:25 dcook But it still loads it into the browser..
02:26 True that
02:26 wizzyrea what they did was say "hey we can do better!" and then... fail.
02:26 arble bargle bargle
02:26 dcook hehe
02:26 indeed
02:27 Aha!
02:27 "html": Returns HTML as plain text; included script tags are evaluated when inserted in the DOM.
02:27 :S
02:27 But that's not what we want!
02:27 Or rather...
02:29 document.f somehow becomes null when it's evaluated during that insertion..
02:29 Probably because it's evaluated separately from the DOM..
02:29 eythian you're not explaining anything that could let someone give you suggestions, you know.
02:30 dcook I'm mostly just babbling, yes
02:30 eythian ok good :)
02:30 dcook hehe
02:30 I appreciate the reminder though :)
02:31 * mtj_ doesnt know what he would do without firebug...
02:31 dcook The Chrome dev tools are pretty good usually
02:31 This is one of the first times I've been disappointed
02:32 eythian: I'm looking at why the browser throws a "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'field_value' of undefined" error when trying to generate a barcode in Acquisitions when receiving an order
02:32 When the autobarcode is "<branch>yymm00001"
02:32 eythian because you have something.field_value, and something is undef rather than an object.
02:32 dcook Exactly
02:32 something is document.f
02:33 eythian document.f isn't a thing, afaik
02:34 firstChild or forms are the only fields that start with f typically.
02:34 dcook Yeah, I'm looking into that at the moment
02:34 The same code works in the regular cataloguing module though
02:35 I swear I've seen document.f before but not sure where
02:35 wizzyrea something to do with autofilling maybe?
02:35 eythian I just use breakpoints and see what's happening. It might be somethinng is defining it in one place and not another.
02:35 dcook I think i t's jQuery's ajax function stripping out the embedded Javascript
02:35 jcamins dcook: does it *say* document.f or are you getting an error about document.f?
02:36 dcook jcamins: I want to say both but I'll look quickly
02:37 jcamins Because the latter could be due to a scoping error.
02:37 dcook Yep hardcoded
02:37 for (i=0 ; i<document.f.field_value.length ; i++) {
02:37 jcamins In that case, no idea where it came from.
02:37 Weird.
02:40 eythian totally unsearchable because google sucks for those sorts of queries these days.
02:40 jcamins eythian: I never found Google really worked for programming queries like that. If you had an error message, maybe, but not with actual code.
02:40 eythian it used to be sorta OK, but has got worse.
02:40 Also, there used to be code.google.com
02:41 I see nowhere obvious where something would be creating document.f
02:41 I'd say figure out what it's trying to do and rewrite it in a more sane way, with documentation.
02:41 dcook I see "document.f" in some of these searches though
02:41 eythian: Yeah, I think that might be the only option
02:43 Although..
02:43 wahanui although is probably mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3
02:43 dcook If jQuery ajax wouldn't strip out the embedded Javascript, it would be fine
02:43 I suppose that might not be possible though..
02:43 eythian are you looking for jsonp?
02:43 dcook Possibly
02:43 I took a bit of a look at that
02:43 eythian if not, there shouldn't be embedded javascript.
02:43 dcook But I wasn't quite sure I understood
02:44 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Javascript that is being pulled out by jQuery ajax" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/216
02:44 jcamins dcook: it's a quirk of form names.
02:45 document[form.name] === document.forms[form.name]
02:45 As it happens, form.name === 'f'. Ergo, document.f.
02:45 dcook Mmm
02:45 Bloody hell..
02:46 And in Acquisitions the form is Aform
02:46 That could do it
02:46 eythian people shouldn't be abusing quirks like that.
02:46 dcook Agreed
02:46 jcamins Agreed again.
02:46 eythian I suggest using git blame and initiating a public shaming.
02:47 jcamins Even better would be not hardcoding form names.
02:47 dcook lol
02:47 jcamins eythian: not much point.
02:47 eythian well, so long as it's not my code, anyway.
02:47 dcook Hmm
02:47 * dcook is curious now
02:48 dcook I don't know if it can be tracked back
02:48 I think it's been copied and pasted too many times
02:48 eythian probably true
02:48 dcook Well, I suppose if a person checked out older versions
02:48 * dcook ponders solutions
02:49 jcamins dcook: nah, it's just that the first commit is "adding missing files."
02:50 dcook :/
02:50 eythian > this._onTween=new B.CustomEvent("_tween",this,true);
02:50 what on earth is a tween event?
02:51 dcook O_o
02:51 In this context, no idea
02:51 jcamins eythian: a... errr... Miley Cirus concert?
02:51 eythian it's not in this context, it's just something that was on my screen.
02:52 jcamins: could be.
02:52 YUI is branching out then
02:52 dcook Whelp, adding a name of "f" to the form does the trip...
02:52 Good call, jcamins
02:52 s/trip/trick/
02:53 eythian I'd suggest giving the form a good name and using that in the js
02:53 dcook eythian: I was referring to the non-human tweens
02:53 eythian f sucks as a name.
02:53 dcook I like that idea but the JS is so pervasive at this point
02:53 jcamins It really does.
02:53 dcook I suppose if I make sure that I get every case
02:53 eythian well, you just need to search for \Wf\W or whatever to find it.
02:54 \<f\> in vim at least
02:55 dcook Holy..
02:56 document.f is used in...cataloguing, serials, authorities
02:56 eythian I'd just mess with it where you're working, if it's possible.
02:56 dcook As well as the value builders, so acquisitions
02:57 Baby steps
02:57 Hmm
02:58 Batch mod as well...
03:08 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]umber-a-lifesaver
03:22 * dcook totally forgot to check koha-community.org today..
03:26 dcook Lookin' good, wizzyrea :)
03:32 wizzyrea++
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03:37 eythian hi cait
03:37 cait hi eythian
03:37 eythian it's awfully early there isn't it?
03:37 cait yep
03:40 dcook Wowzers...
03:41 * dcook thoughts 6:30 was getting to be an early wake up...
03:43 cait don't you all have more important things to discuss than me waking up early? :)
03:44 dcook I think we took care of those discussions while you were sleeping ;)
04:13 * cait hides from dcook
04:58 wizzyrea dcook: re: bug 10638 - the work flow a lot of libraries use is to check in a stack of books after receiving them to trigger the hold
04:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10638 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Show alert when receiving an order with holds/reserves
04:58 wizzyrea is this the workflow you are trying to avoid?
04:59 so instead of issuing an alert, it's a separate process to discover if there is a reserve
04:59 checking in the book after receive does this.
05:00 just something to think about - I have to go now byeeee
05:00 <throws grenades, disappears>
05:01 dcook lol
05:02 Pretty much, yeah
05:02 Because when you're receiving, you're not necessarily going to process all your items at once
05:03 So you'll get a hold alert before you even barcode your item
05:03 So you know that you need to barcode an item
05:03 If that makes sense
05:05 @later tell cait yeah, changing hold to reserve in a follow-up would be fine
05:05 huginn` dcook: The operation succeeded.
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05:44 dcook wb kf
05:48 kf thx dcook
06:05 * magnuse waves
06:07 magnuse hiya dcook and kf
06:07 @wunder boo
06:07 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on September 16, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
06:07 magnuse w00t!
06:07 kf hiya magnuse
06:07 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:07 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 15.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on September 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
06:07 magnuse hah! hah!
06:08 @wunder konstanz
06:08 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.2°C (8:05 AM CEST on September 16, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
06:08 magnuse moahahahaha
06:08 @wunder wellington, nz
06:08 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on September 16, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
06:08 dcook hey magnuse
06:08 magnuse @wunder sydney
06:08 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
06:08 magnuse @wunder sydney, australia
06:08 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (4:05 PM EST on September 16, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling).
06:08 magnuse heh, same as here!
06:09 ok, i'll stop bragging now ;-)
06:09 dcook hehe
06:09 It's a rainy day today
06:10 Just planted the garden last night so hopefully the plants like it
06:10 magnuse probably!
06:10 hooray for qa sprint day!
06:10 kf++
06:11 kf qa_team++
06:13 magnuse @karma qa_team
06:13 huginn` magnuse: Karma for "qa_team" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
06:13 magnuse yeah qa_team++
06:13 @karma qa_team
06:13 huginn` magnuse: Karma for "qa_team" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4.
06:29 dcook Note to self: When running Koha CLI scripts, make sure that you're importing the correct Koha variables
06:29 Fortunately, I just updated one test instance when I meant to update a different test instance
06:29 But still...bleargh
06:31 magnuse yeah, that can make for some surprises...
06:31 dcook Not fun times :/
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06:38 reiveune hello
06:42 dcook Everything sorted
06:42 hey reiveune
06:42 wahanui reiveune is working for biblibre
06:42 magnuse bonjour reiveune
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06:47 kf hi reiveune
06:47 reiveune hi kf dcook magnuse :)
06:47 kf :)
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06:52 marcelr hi #koha
06:52 dcook hey  marcelr
06:52 marcelr hi dcook
06:56 alex_a bonjour
06:56 wahanui kai ora, alex_a
06:57 marcelr hi alex_a
06:59 sophie_m hello #koha
07:00 magnuse bonjour!
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07:05 gaetan_B hello
07:05 wahanui kai ora, gaetan_B
07:09 kf hi mar
07:09 hm too slow
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07:42 * dcook just noticed that there are no times between sessions at Kohacon
07:42 dcook Or..maybe sometimes there are
07:49 magnuse wizzyrea++ for the new look on http://koha-community.org/
08:06 dcook All right. Enough presentation written. Time for home or something!
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08:06 dcook salut paul_p
08:06 ciao all
08:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #349 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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08:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #349: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/349/
08:56 * Owen Leonard: Bug 7598: make strings in acquisitions JavaScript translatable
08:56 * Owen Leonard: Bug 7598: [Follow-up] make strings in acquisitions JavaScript translatable
08:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7598 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Acquisitions JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings
08:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #350 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:57 cjh jenkins_koha: good work.
08:57 jenkins_koha cjh did you mean me? Unknown command 'good'
08:57 Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
09:34 Project Koha_3.8.x build #350: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/350/
09:34 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10346 - "Add multiple copies" should be labelled "Add multiple items"
09:34 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9353 - Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks
09:34 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Followup Bug 9353: Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks
09:34 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 5858: update default MARC21 framework to April 2013 revision
09:34 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5858: Followup for INSERT IGNOREs in marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql
09:34 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4907: make 'Organize by' filter in suggestions reflect selected option
09:34 * Colin Campbell: Bug 10507: improve warning about duplicate patron attribute value
09:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10346 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , "Add multiple copies" should be labelled "Add multiple items"
09:34 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10189: Translate values in UNIMARC 128b/c cataloguing plugins to English
09:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9353 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, RESOLVED FIXED, Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks
09:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Update default MARC21 framework to Update No. 16 (April 2013)
09:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4907 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Suggestions "organize by" menu doesn't reflect current choice
09:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10507 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Typo when warning about creating duplicate patron attribute
09:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10189 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , French values in cataloging plugins for unimarc 128b and 128c fields
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10:15 lost_and_unfound Greetings, I have been thrown into the deepend here... so today I learned we have a system called koha... it's been an interesting morning. I have started scanning the documentation and firstly, very well done on this project.
10:16 We are running 3.00.06.010. And I have just done a full db backup of mysql before I am going to fiddle.
10:17 The error we are getting: Error: Can't call method "as_usmarc" on an undefined value at /data/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 2388.
10:17 from what I can gather, it appears I need to rebuild zebra as the koha user
10:18 I have just check and there is no crontab under the koha user for zebra as suggested... so I have no idea when was the last time anyone looked it this.
10:18 The zebra service is running on port 9999 as the apache user
10:19 rangi well 3.0.6 was released may 2010, so its over 3 years and about 30ish releases ago
10:19 so i doubt anyone has been looking after it at all
10:20 lost_and_unfound eh... those manuals covered in dust =]
10:21 any pitfall I need to be aware of when running the rebuild_zebra.pl script?
10:21 kf not running as the wrong user :)
10:22 lost_and_unfound that part I read in the manual =]
10:23 kf the error you had can have lots of reasons, reindexing and adding to crontabs is probably a good start... there was a deprecated daemon, that should be turned off if it's on
10:23 rangi but seriously, think about getting a test server and upgrading before you get owned :)
10:23 lost_and_unfound I did notice they make mention of environmental values PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF ... is that set when running rebuild_zebra.pl or must those be preset? when i do a printenv those values are not set (running command line now, not adding to cron)
10:23 kf rangi++ yep good advice
10:24 rangi there's been at least 4 security releases since then (not too mention 6 feature releases and 37 bug fix ones
10:24 lost_and_unfound rangi, yeah, when I spoke to sysadmins today they where like... "what? that server is not even virtualized..."
10:25 I wonder if the people know where that server is physically located
10:25 I will speak to the powers that be to get this done
10:26 as for the rebuild zebra... just make sure you run it as the koha user? not other funny stuff I need to prepare for ?
10:27 kf export the environment variables
10:27 and if you are going to set up a test server and do an update, look at the packages
10:31 rangi lost_and_unfound: if zebra isnt running as the koha user
10:31 then dont run rebuild_zebra.pl as the koha user
10:31 kf oh right
10:31 rangi it needs to be the same user that the zebrasrv daemon is running as
10:31 otherwise it wont be able to read the indices
10:32 but now i need to go to sleep
10:33 kf good night rangi
10:33 lost_and_unfound rangi, thanks for the info, I helps alot... seems to be inconsistancies with the setup.. going to read more on the manual first
10:37 I can not find a installation manual for koha 3.0.0 on the documentation, any suggestions where I can try and get one ?
10:39 kf lost_and_unfound: there shoudl be one on your system
10:39 lost_and_unfound: text files for installing on different distributions
10:40 INSTALL...something I think
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11:03 kivilahtio Hi! Does "Stage MARC Records for import" take MARC in other formats than ISO-format? I have tried marcxml under a collection-tag. Does it really have to be in the ISO-format?
11:03 Also there doesn't seem to be any mention in the documentation about that
11:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10893 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Location facet not working in UNIMARC
11:05 magnuse kivilahtio: yeah, i think "stage" only takes iso format. but there is a script called bulkmarcimport.pl which lets you import marcxml, but only from the command line
11:14 kivilahtio magnuse: I am testing the acquisitions module and trying to test the "Add Order to a Basket" in Acquisitions
11:15 magnuse ooh, Acquisitions is not one of my strong points - try kf ;-)
11:15 kf kivilahtio: if it's for testing maybe easiest to just export some records somewhere in marc - other koha catalogs are a good source
11:15 kivilahtio wow, the perl script is called addorderiso2709.pl, but the link texts are wildly different
11:15 kf then stage them and you can use those for acq
11:15 kivilahtio: lots of things have changed in acq over time
11:15 kivilahtio kf: just exported ISO from our test data, and trying with that
11:15 kf it should work
11:16 kivilahtio but ISO-format is clumsy and hurts my eyes
11:16 I am sure it will work
11:16 kf but it's only one of the option on how you can add orders :)
11:16 kivilahtio yeah, but we have a pretty good workflow, lets see if Koha aligns to that
11:16 kf kivilahtio: probably because you are nto a magnet something reader :)
11:17 kivilahtio: I currently have a patch for staged orders in my queue
11:17 bug 7180
11:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7180 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Order from staged file improvements
11:18 kf the first screenshot is no longer how it looks tho
11:18 it's waiting for a tester ;)
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11:30 marcelr hi kf: i missed the qa sprint day
11:31 kf i think we will have another
11:31 in fact i wanted to set a new date soon
11:31 before the freeze
11:31 or slush
11:32 marcelr that is quite soon?
11:32 kf yes.
11:32 25th
11:32 marcelr any news on patches that are for longer in passed qa?
11:33 have some myself there
11:33 kf i think providing unit tests for the one would help a lot
11:33 marcelr circulation stuff
11:33 wahanui circulation stuff is now quite important for us
11:34 kf and galen said he will do a big push after the sprint - so that shoudl be soon
11:34 marcelr i have some (more) circulation patches even
11:35 with the freeze coming they will not make it
11:40 kf It's the same always... not enough time, not enough hands, we can all only do so much
11:40 magnuse this is still the timeline for 3.14, right? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline
11:41 kf and the sign off queue has sadly been growing quite a lot lately
11:41 while we got some handle on the signed off
11:41 yes
11:41 magnuse it has...
11:41 kf check the meeting logs from last irc meeting - galen explained about the deadlines there
11:41 magnuse i seem to remember gmcharlt defining "feature slush " somewhere, though...
11:41 ah cool!
11:43 so gbsd this friday?
11:43 or thursday?
11:48 ping kf
11:48 kf oh hi :)
11:48 sorry
11:48 i won't be around this week much :(
11:48 magnuse :-)
11:48 kf we have 3 big events
11:48 starting wednesday
11:48 what about monday tuesday next week?
11:48 magnuse sounds like... fun
11:49 kf it will be in part
11:49 magnuse ah, i was looking at august
11:49 start of next week then?
11:49 kf that would work for me
11:49 but not sure about others of course
11:50 magnuse 25th is wednesday of next week
11:50 kf yeah i can see
11:50 magnuse would it make sense to have gbsd on monday and a qa sprint on wednesday?
11:50 or better to overlap?
11:51 kf if 25th is wednesday i would opt for tuesday
11:51 and have some timezone overlap
11:52 magnuse sure
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12:15 magnuse gah, i meant qa sprit on tuesday
12:29 kf :)
12:29 jcamins: around?
12:30 kivilahtio wow I stumbled upon the LibLime homepage, made me feel sick
12:30 or should I not start with this?
12:30 :)
12:30 kf it's a bit hard to look at if you have a bit of background knowledge
12:30 kivilahtio can't we like call the Anonymous on them?
12:30 just a sugestion :)
12:30 kf normally I'd say better not get started and do something productive to make koha better :)
12:31 apache--
12:31 every single time grr.
12:32 jcamins kf: yes.
12:32 kf oh goodness
12:32 i am trying to add a second koha listening to different ports
12:32 and apache is driving me crazy :( I must have missed something
12:32 jcamins Why are you adding a second Koha listening on a different port?
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12:33 kf because i need a second koha to develop lorsch
12:33 that manuscript thing
12:33 jcamins Oh, on a VM.
12:33 kf well... not really a vm
12:33 else i could do just another vm :)
12:33 oleonard Hi #koha
12:33 kivilahtio btw, I just tweaked the apache2 conf to make Koha's intranet listen on port :8080/tcp and opac on :80/tcp. So I just removed the servername directives and replaced with listening ports. Is this proper or are there side effects. I feel there might be
12:33 kf hi oleonard
12:33 jcamins But somewhere you only have IP access.
12:33 kivilahtio hi oleonard
12:34 jcamins kivilahtio: that's the more common setup, though I favor ServerName.
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12:34 kivilahtio jcamins: ok
12:34 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
12:34 kf jcamins: i opted for ports because it works like that on my setup at home :)
12:34 but now i don't know where the difference is... and i need this working like yesterday :(
12:34 jcamins kivilahtio: also, you should leave ServerName anyway so that you get useful output if you ever have to debug your VHost config.
12:34 mtompset Greetings, kivilahtio kf jcamins. :)
12:35 kivilahtio jcamins: It's a lot easier this way when M$ machines are involved and no DNS is available
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12:35 mtompset hint: /windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
12:35 kivilahtio jcamins: no Side-effects for servername?
12:35 mtompset (so you can do a named set up and access from windows without the dns set up)
12:36 jcamins kivilahtio: well... you get usable debug output. Other than that, no.
12:36 kivilahtio jcamins: I thought it was an exclusive directive, so the virtual server directive needs to be accessed with the specific ServerName=
12:36 jcamins: but I guess i could use serverAlias
12:36 jcamins kivilahtio: no, definitely not.
12:36 I'll find an example.
12:36 kivilahtio jcamins: NO
12:36 jcamins: I know what you mean, save your precious time!
12:36 jcamins :)
12:37 kivilahtio jcamins: don't help me ;)
12:37 jcamins: btw any idea how you manage large consortias with Evergreen? ;)
12:37 rather lenghty topic
12:37 like when we have libraries from multiple municipalities
12:37 mtompset @quote add "kivilahtio: jcamins, don't help me :)"
12:37 huginn` mtompset: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
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12:38 kivilahtio and municipalities don't want to allow intermunicipality holds
12:38 mtompset @quote add "kivilahtio: jcamins, don't help me :)"
12:38 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.  Quote #277 added.
12:38 kivilahtio also can you use library departments as shelving locations? Like shelving location "Serials deprtment"
12:39 jcamins kivilahtio: yeah, I have two libraries that use departments as shelving locations.
12:39 Well, departmental offices as shelving locations.
12:39 kivilahtio jcamins: is that reasonable?
12:39 * mtompset is certain that will create an interesting conversation when that pops up. :)
12:39 kivilahtio jcamins: no drawback regarding statistics/reporting?
12:40 jcamins Not generally- you can just write your own report to take that into consideration.
12:40 kivilahtio jcamins: ok, andthere's a-plenty to choose from
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12:41 tcohen mooooorning #koha
12:41 kivilahtio gday tcohen
12:41 cait_m jcamins++
12:42 mtompset Too bad #koha isn't 3 syllables, because I was thinking your greeting might sound like Robin Williams if it were, tcohen. ;)
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12:50 tcohen :)
12:58 kivilahtio Does the Koha community have some spare marc authority records lying around, which I could just a little import to our Koha?
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13:07 kf kivilahtio: hm i can't think of something right now :(
13:10 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data
13:10 there seem to be no authorities recors
13:10 but maybe the linked sites provide some
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13:26 cait_m hm taking your patron data on the road doesn't sound recommendable :(
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13:30 oleonard Congratulations lost_and_unfound, you're not lost anymore. You're in #koha.
13:31 lost_and_unfound oleonard, ah! fooled you! today i found out we have koha! been a interesting day sofar... and the lost is still very valid
13:36 cait_m *grump*
13:36 ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 2674: Can't create table 'koha.letter' (errno: 150)
13:36 oleonard lost_and_unfound: Did you come here to ask a question?
13:37 lost_and_unfound oleonard, I do have a few, but still reading docs to understand better
13:37 just getting my head around most of the stuff
13:40 oleonard Why is the kohails Twitter account tweeting random koha-patches emails?
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13:42 oleonard https://twitter.com/kohails/st[…]79561213262561281
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13:49 jcamins oleonard: it's been doing that for a while, and I have no idea.
13:53 oleonard Huh, so there's a koha.org.pl?
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14:05 jcamins oleonard: apparently so.
14:05 wahanui apparently so is just after fa
14:08 oleonard Where are the instructions for converting a package installation to git? jcamins was that your work?
14:08 jcamins oleonard: it was not.
14:08 gitify?
14:08 wahanui gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
14:08 jcamins Eh voila!
14:11 oleonard Thanks
14:12 * cait_m should use that in her next attempt
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14:20 francharb good morning #koha!
14:20 oleonard Hi francharb
14:20 tcohen hi kf_m
14:20 kf_m jcamins++
14:20 hi tcohen
14:20 francharb 0/ oleonard
14:29 rambutan I presume koha doesn't have a state record (if that makes sense)? For example, there is presumably no way to run a report (overdue notices) for a past date based on the database at that time
14:29 would that be terribly difficult to code?
14:30 $500 USD?
14:31 kf_m hi francharb!
14:31 how are you doing?
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14:31 tcohen rambutan: you're right
14:31 francharb Hi kf_m!
14:32 I'm doing pretty well
14:32 Looking for a job
14:32 hehe
14:32 kf_m aaah still nothing?
14:32 francharb nope but this is just the beginning
14:33 kf_m well, not so long i guess
14:33 francharb I took two months off
14:33 kf_m probably needed :)
14:33 rambutan Without snapshotting the whole database I can't imagine how to be able to do it, maybe just a diff on the two database dates?
14:33 francharb yesss
14:33 kf_m we miss you :)
14:33 francharb you too
14:33 that's why I'm here
14:34 I set up a koha locally
14:34 I'm figure out how to get git-bz
14:34 and I will test patches sooner or later!
14:34 ;)
14:34 rambutan maybe a journal?
14:34 kf_m francharb: that would be really awesome!
14:34 git bz?
14:34 wahanui git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration or just about anything except intuitive or AMAZING and WONDERFUL
14:34 jcamins rambutan: that'd be my thought, but it's not really trivial.
14:35 kf_m have you tried to work from the wiki instructions?
14:35 rambutan $750 USD?
14:35 oleonard $759.99?
14:35 * jcamins wouldn't want to touch that project, to be honest. Too big.
14:36 francharb kf_m: yes and it's going to work I just need a little time to set it up
14:36 lost_and_unfound Greetings, I know that version 3.0.0 is ancient, however, I am trying to understand the setup of koha and there is anything a miss here and if I can just run the zebra rebuilding without any implications / side effects: http://pastie.org/private/gusyfgrtpx8rndhwyspuqg#
14:36 francharb what about you kf_m, did you take a couple of day off this summer?
14:37 kf_m i was in hamburg for a week
14:37 rambutan all right, $1000 USD. big bucks. I'll have some takers here.
14:37 kf_m but september is really busy - i will take some time off in autumn iand winter
14:37 francharb :)
14:37 kf_m rambutan: what's the use case?
14:37 rambutan: maybe there is an easier way?
14:38 rambutan our overdue notices didn't run for some reason over the weekend.
14:38 kf_m jcamins: could you reset the motd maybe to the next  irc meeting time? *asks nicely*
14:38 rambutan so we need 4 days worth of overdue notices
14:38 kf_m rambutan: i think if the items are returned now, you have a bad stand in sending them out
14:38 there is in option in the overdues script to backdate
14:38 but it will use the current database
14:39 and it does not work with triggered
14:39 you'd have to manipulate your overdue notice triggers to get those out i think
14:39 rambutan yea, I'm just the sysadmin. The Tech Services supervisor is out on the bookmobile run ATM, she'll have do run them.
14:41 jcamins kf_m: apparently I cannot, no.
14:41 kf_m oh
14:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #97: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/97/
14:42 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10656: add regression test
14:42 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10656: improve sorting of shelving location and collections on OPAC advanced search form
14:42 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10656: (follow-up) handle OPAC sorting of authvals where lib_opac is NULL
14:42 * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10727: Replace carriage return with <br /> when printing hold notices
14:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10656 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , shelving locations not alpha on search
14:42 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10727 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Replace carriage return with <br /> when writing hold notices
14:44 rambutan so for some type of record/journal system, it would probably only need like 2 weeks of look back, and probably only for overdue notices
14:47 ebegin rambutan, this is probably doable using the check-in / check out dates, However, as mentioned jcamins, it's not a small task
14:48 rambutan $1,200 USD?
14:48 kf_m I wonder if you have legally the right to send out overdues for things returned already.
14:48 and if you just need the notices you miss there are probably other ways
14:49 jcamins kf_m: sure you do. Overdue notices include the note "If you have already returned this item, please disregard this message."
14:49 kf_m jcamins: yeah, but isn#t that just for systems not clever enough? ;)
14:49 jcamins kf_m: no system is clever enough to know about books left in the book drop...
14:51 kf_m ok, valid point, but more like an exception
14:51 rambutan It's not something that will be the "crisis of the month", but an annoyance nonetheless
14:52 a big thanks to tcohen for the suggestion to load the appropriate nightly sql dump into a koha backup server.
14:52 tcohen++
14:53 tcohen u r welcome rambutan
14:56 rambutan jcamins: I _think_ I've seen vendors with smart book drop boxes. They just have a mag card reader and SIP to the database.
14:56 jcamins rambutan: yeah, there are some. Queens Library has.
14:56 Of course, they don't work half the time.
15:01 tcohen is $yaml =~ /\S/ sufficient for testing YAML ? (context: OpacHiddenItems)
15:01 (i know is better than nothing)
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15:29 reiveune bye
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15:33 Starting build #1418 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1409 8 days 10 hr ago)
15:34 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10792: fix sorting of funds table on acquisitions home page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aa2759aa21986ab7e> / Bug 10802: make Debian package install history.txt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bfcf9e8f817328a67> / Bug 5349: (follow-up) tweak order transfer form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
15:34 kf_m hm unstable.
15:34 wahanui unstable is sid
15:46 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10810 - Fix synopsis for -html option to overdue_notices.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fafa445f33f570326> / Bug 10840: restore OPACResultsSidebar in opac-facets.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]998f0f9a8904201fa>
15:47 francharb kf_m: can I ask you a question about git?
15:49 mtompset tcohen++ # thanks for the help and testing. :)
15:50 * mtompset groans about writing tests for things he did manual testing over and over and over for.
15:51 tcohen unit_tests++
15:52 yay! history.txt finally back in to-be-released 3.12.5  packages \o/
15:55 mtompset So, let's say I want to fake data to db_dependent tests... the whole autocommit=0 thing is okay to use?
15:55 francharb anyone to help with a git problem to install git-bz?
15:56 I runned the git clone command to get git-bz
15:56 mtompset francharb: I rather do that than write tests. :)
15:56 francharb then git fetch origin
15:56 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10838: (follow-up) silence another warn <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d3ef3ae4de20ccc5> / Bug 10838: Silence warns in members/member.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72a36b451ba01cf6a>
15:56 mtompset and you checked out the fish soup version?
15:56 francharb but I got "fatal not a git repository"
15:57 isn't it weird since i just did git clone git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git
15:57 mtompset: not yet
15:57 since, it says I dont have a repository...
15:58 jcamins francharb: did you do `cd git-bz`?
15:58 francharb ahah
15:58 mtompset did you cd into the directory?
15:58 DOH! too slow.
15:58 francharb thank you
15:58 sometimes the answer is so simple
15:58 that you cant figure it out...
15:59 * mtompset nods.
15:59 mtompset Hate it when the answer is right in your face.
16:00 I've tweaked the wiki page to state the obvious. :)
16:01 Back to my question: let's say I want to fake data for db_dependent tests... the whole autocommit=0 thing is okay to use?
16:02 jcamins Sure, if it meets your needs.
16:06 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7469: (follow-up) update shipment receiving form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b0df9b0a3b30b79c0> / Bug 7469: put focus on 1st field of creation form instead of search box (Acquisition) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]88be12d777e4c5110>
16:16 New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9618: (follow-up) include link to jQuery only if needed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]62a99609247f6dd73> / Bug 9618: Add support for intranetuserjs to labels/spinelabel-print.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7a289cf7c3fe819b>
16:17 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #98: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/98/
16:17 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: add ability to transfer order lines from one basket to another
16:17 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: (follow-up) run transferorder.pl in a popup
16:17 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: Fix a logical test in TransferOrder
16:17 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: Add unit tests for TransferOrder
16:17 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: Use DB transaction/rollback in unit tests
16:17 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: Create a table for order line transfers
16:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Moving an order
16:17 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5349: (follow-up) update license version to GPL3+ for new file
16:17 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5349: DBrev 3.13.00.018
16:18 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5349: (follow-up) tweak order transfer form
16:18 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10802: make Debian package install history.txt
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10802 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , history.txt missing in packages
16:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #99 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:21 gaetan_B bye !
16:24 mtompset What tests should I look at for mocking up system preferences?
16:26 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10570: Show nonpublic note on check expiration page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f0a75be6353feecf> / Bug 10650 - export merge-record.inc javascript into a file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d894a79d6b4f88713>
16:28 mtompset Are db_dependent tests run before a patch is applied or after?
16:29 jcamins Whenever you want.
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16:30 mtompset mmm.... if I answer "yes" to the run db_dependent test during "perl Makefile.PL", when are they run?
16:31 jcamins It depends whether you do that before or after applying the patch.
16:31 The build process and the patch application process are entirely unrelated.
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16:35 gmcharlt++
16:36 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8821: make receive shipment page hide inactive funds like new order form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c461518ecb0d9e60>
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16:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1418: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 18 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1418/
16:51 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: add ability to transfer order lines from one basket to another
16:51 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: (follow-up) run transferorder.pl in a popup
16:51 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: Fix a logical test in TransferOrder
16:51 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: Add unit tests for TransferOrder
16:51 * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: Use DB transaction/rollback in unit tests
16:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Moving an order
16:51 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 5349: Create a table for order line transfers
16:51 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5349: (follow-up) update license version to GPL3+ for new file
16:51 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5349: DBrev 3.13.00.018
16:51 * Galen Charlton: Bug 5349: (follow-up) tweak order transfer form
16:51 * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10802: make Debian package install history.txt
16:51 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10792: fix sorting of funds table on acquisitions home page
16:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10802 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , history.txt missing in packages
16:51 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10792 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Amounts in funds table on acquisitions home page not sorting correctly
16:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #1419 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1409 8 days 11 hr ago)
16:57 Project master_maria build #99: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/99/
16:57 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10792: fix sorting of funds table on acquisitions home page
16:57 * Mark Tompsett: Bug 10840: restore OPACResultsSidebar in opac-facets.inc
16:57 * Magnus Enger: Bug 10810 - Fix synopsis for -html option to overdue_notices.pl
16:57 * Chris Cormack: Bug 10838: Silence warns in members/member.pl
16:57 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10838: (follow-up) silence another warn
16:57 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7469: put focus on 1st field of creation form instead of search box (Acquisition)
16:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10792 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Amounts in funds table on acquisitions home page not sorting correctly
16:57 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7469: (follow-up) update shipment receiving form
16:57 * Owen Leonard: Bug 9618: Add support for intranetuserjs to labels/spinelabel-print.pl
16:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10840 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Re-add missing [% OPACResultsSidebar %]
16:57 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9618: (follow-up) include link to jQuery only if needed
16:57 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10650 - export merge-record.inc javascript into a file
16:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10810 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Fix synopsis for -html option to overdue_notices.pl
16:57 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10838 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Silence warnings in members/member.pl
16:57 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Focus on 1st field of creation form instead of search textbox
16:58 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add support for intranetuserjs to labels/spinelabel-print.pl
16:58 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10650 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , export merge-record.inc javascript into a file
16:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #100 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:06 kf that is a big push :)
17:10 magnuse it is!
17:10 push all the patches!!1!
17:10 kf bye all :)
17:10 kf left #koha
17:10 magnuse fare thee well kf
17:10 gah too late
17:15 tcohen magnuse: almighty kf will read the logs of course
17:16 magnuse tcohen: 'tis probably true :-)
17:18 tcohen gmcharlt: is it ok to put the autocommit then rollback stuff inside a subtest?
17:18 so previously defined tests don't interfere
17:19 gmcharlt tcohen: yes, but note that you can't nest transactions in MySQL
17:19 tcohen syn_rcvd
17:23 oleonard Oh no I missed lunchtime!
17:24 * oleonard declares this to be lunchtime
17:24 gmcharlt ... globally
17:24 ;)
17:27 mtompset Good idea, oleonard.
17:27 oleonard++ # I should eat too.
17:29 gmcharlt magnuse: about?
17:30 magnuse yup
17:30 * magnuse fears the worst ;-)
17:31 gmcharlt would you have any objection if I pushed a follow-up to bug 10513 that lets the checkin alert message be multi-line?
17:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10513 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Light up a warning/message when returning a chosen item type.
17:31 magnuse replacing \n with <br>?
17:32 gmcharlt yep, via the TT html_link_break filter
17:32 magnuse nope, sounds like an excellent idea!
17:36 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #100: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/100/
17:36 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10570: Show nonpublic note on check expiration page
17:36 * Owen Leonard: Bug 8821: make receive shipment page hide inactive funds like new order form
17:36 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10841: Make edit/delete item context links in cataloguing translatable
17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show internal note from subscription in results on check expiration page
17:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8821 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Receive shipment page should hide inactive funds like new order form does
17:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10841 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Edit/Delete item context links in items table are not translatable
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17:44 tcohen how can I test something is an empty array?
17:44 (Test::More)
17:45 mtompset scalar @array = 0?
17:46 wrap the appropriate ok,  cmp_ok, or whatever around it. :)
17:46 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10513: DBRev 3.13.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71e4068b67a5de665> / Bug 10513: (follow-up) use "checkin" rather than "check in" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]01e9cbb5a7263a37c> / Bug 10513: (follow-up) allow for multiline checkin alerts/messages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb/?p=koha.git;a=
17:47 mtompset Oh... are you trying to differentiate between empty array and undefined array?
17:48 magnuse have fun #koha
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17:49 tcohen i want to test a function returns an empty array
17:49 cait tcohen: hm, i think I have done that maybe before
17:50 * tcohen enters idl- mode
17:51 cait idl?
17:52 tcohen idle
17:52 waiting for input
17:52 cait ah
17:52 yeah looking for it
17:53 i thought i did something like that in the first unit tests I wrote eve.r.. but i might be wrong after all
17:53 it was something in biblio
17:55 hm must have imagined it
17:56 tcohen: could you check it's an array? think there is something for that and count the elements? might be a stupid idea tho :)
17:56 tcohen thanks cait, i just thought there would be some Tests::more tool for this check :-D
17:57 cait wel, maybe, but I am the wrong person to ask then :)
17:57 you could read the module docs :)
17:58 maybe look at Test::Deep?
17:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #101 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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18:06 tcohen thanks cait
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18:10 tcohen gmcharl
18:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1419: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 18 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1419/
18:11 * Mark Tompsett: Bug 10840: restore OPACResultsSidebar in opac-facets.inc
18:11 * Magnus Enger: Bug 10810 - Fix synopsis for -html option to overdue_notices.pl
18:11 * Chris Cormack: Bug 10838: Silence warns in members/member.pl
18:11 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10838: (follow-up) silence another warn
18:11 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7469: put focus on 1st field of creation form instead of search box (Acquisition)
18:11 * Galen Charlton: Bug 7469: (follow-up) update shipment receiving form
18:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10840 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Re-add missing [% OPACResultsSidebar %]
18:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9618: Add support for intranetuserjs to labels/spinelabel-print.pl
18:11 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9618: (follow-up) include link to jQuery only if needed
18:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10810 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Fix synopsis for -html option to overdue_notices.pl
18:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10650 - export merge-record.inc javascript into a file
18:11 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10570: Show nonpublic note on check expiration page
18:11 * Owen Leonard: Bug 8821: make receive shipment page hide inactive funds like new order form
18:11 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10841: Make edit/delete item context links in cataloguing translatable
18:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10838 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Silence warnings in members/member.pl
18:11 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Focus on 1st field of creation form instead of search textbox
18:11 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add support for intranetuserjs to labels/spinelabel-print.pl
18:11 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10650 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , export merge-record.inc javascript into a file
18:11 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show internal note from subscription in results on check expiration page
18:11 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8821 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Receive shipment page should hide inactive funds like new order form does
18:11 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10841 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Edit/Delete item context links in items table are not translatable
18:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #1420 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1409 8 days 12 hr ago)
18:19 * gmcharlt points interested parties to the discussion in bug 8484
18:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8484 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add ability to choose if lost items are removed from a borrowers record.
18:19 mtompset Is there a sample test to demonstrate a logged in user?
18:20 Some library calls require a logged in user.
18:20 jcamins What are you testing?
18:21 mtompset I'm trying to write a test for bug 10589
18:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10589 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Override OpacHiddenItems based on Patron Category
18:23 jcamins There are no existing examples that I am aware of.
18:24 mtompset I basically need to return reasonably set values for C4::Context->userenv->{'number'} and C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'}.
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18:27 gmcharlt mtompset:  t/db_dependent/Members.t  and t/db_dependent/Circulation.t both have examples of seting up userenv for testing purposes
18:27 mtompset Thank you.
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18:38 * cait waves to gmcharlt
18:38 * gmcharlt waves back
18:38 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #101: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/101/
18:38 * Magnus Enger: Bug 10513: display a warning/message when returning a chosen item type
18:38 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10513: (follow-up) allow for multiline checkin alerts/messages
18:38 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10513: (follow-up) use "checkin" rather than "check in"
18:38 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10513: DBRev 3.13.00.019
18:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10513 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Light up a warning/message when returning a chosen item type.
18:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #102 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:47 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9372: (follow-up) tidy whitespace in new lines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4005bb53e5089acc8> / Bug 9372: replace carriage return with in printed HTML files for overdues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8b8ecce38fa24c5c5>
18:55 mtompset Should we assume sample data is in the system? Or just insert dummy data to be sure it really is there? (autocommit is 0)
18:55 jcamins The latter.
18:55 gmcharlt the latter
18:55 * druthb chucks Skittles at mtompset.
18:56 mtompset Hey! I'm working on tests. Don't distract, druthb. :P
18:56 druthb :P
19:19 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10667: Follow up - prevent t/00-load from failing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4a3b55e359b95b89> / Bug 10667: Allow authentication with cardnumber for ILS-DI <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72308be882968b14f> / Bug 10667: Add unit tests for ILSDI::Services::AuthenticatePatron <http://git.koha-community.or
19:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #102: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/102/
19:21 * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9372: replace carriage return with <br /> in printed HTML files for overdues
19:21 * Galen Charlton: Bug 9372: (follow-up) tidy whitespace in new lines
19:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Automatic carriage return in message_queue where content_type is html
19:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #103 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:28 oleonard Bye #koha
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19:29 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10667: (follow-up) fix reference to UT library in test case <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1c03b42fe42fee07>
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19:29 mmm45 Is it possible to make the mobile version work with the opactheme prog?
19:30 cait mmm45: no, the mobile theme is a separate theme
19:30 you can either use prog or ccsr
19:30 jcamins mmm45: no, CCSR is a separate theme.
19:30 mmm45 so ccsr basically enables mobile
19:31 jcamins The CCSR theme works on mobile devices.
19:32 There's not actually a mobile feature as such, just a series of features in the CCSR theme that improve mobile compatibility. But the CCSR theme also includes other features, and stylistic changes.
19:32 (compared to prog)
19:33 mmm45 for now OPACUserCSS overrides OPACMobileUserCSS
19:33 jcamins I think there might be a bug about that.
19:33 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
19:33 Project Koha_master build #1420: FIXED in 1 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1420/
19:33 * Magnus Enger: Bug 10513: display a warning/message when returning a chosen item type
19:33 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10513: (follow-up) allow for multiline checkin alerts/messages
19:33 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10513: (follow-up) use "checkin" rather than "check in"
19:33 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10513: DBRev 3.13.00.019
19:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10513 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Light up a warning/message when returning a chosen item type.
19:33 jcamins It seems familiar.
19:34 mmm45 so if i put something in OPACMobileUserCSS it will not work
19:34 jcamins Yeah, bug 9551.
19:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9551 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , OPACMobileUserCSS being overriden by OPACUserCSS
19:34 mmm45 thank you
19:35 jcamins The obvious workaround is just to use a media query, since that's all OPACMobileUserCSS does.
19:35 mmm45 i am not familiar
19:35 i'm sorry
19:36 not sure how to use a media query
19:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #1421 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
19:36 jcamins I'm sure there are guides to writing CSS for mobile devices that will walk you through media queries.
19:36 I don't recall any particularly strong resources that I could recommend.
19:37 mmm45 and this would be included in the OPACUserCSS?
19:37 since the mobile one gets overwritten?
19:37 jcamins I don't know what you're trying to do, but that'd be my workaround, yes.
19:38 mmm45 well, we have a custom code for our library and when i switch to CCSR the main desktop page looks all weird
19:38 jcamins (my workaround for any situation where I couldn't increase specificity in the OPACMobileUserCSS)
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19:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10600: (follow-up) fix unescaped ampersand <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]353ce8dcbf14da987> / Bug 10600: (follow-up) change the icon for the action duplicate <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43f9edab9d3234fc4> / Bug 10600: add ability to edit new authority record by duplicating existing one <http://git.koha-
19:59 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #103: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/103/
19:59 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10667: Add unit tests for ILSDI::Services::AuthenticatePatron
19:59 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10667: Allow authentication with cardnumber for ILS-DI
19:59 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10667: Follow up - prevent t/00-load from failing
19:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10667 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , ILS-DI: AuthenticatePatron should also work with cardnumber
19:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #104 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:00 francharb bye
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20:09 jcamins If anyone wanted an example of how problematic LC headings are, consider the heading for Eunice White Bullard Beecher.
20:10 Not an insignificant figure, really. Wrote at least five books.
20:10 Rembered by posterity as "Mrs. Henry Ward Beecher."
20:19 rambutan I feel like I'm waiting for the next line....
20:20 jcamins rambutan: she was Harriet Beecher Stowe's Sister-in-Law, and LC remembers her only by her husband's name.
20:21 rambutan ah, the last is the missing piece
20:36 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #104: SUCCESS in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/104/
20:36 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10667: (follow-up) fix reference to UT library in test case
20:36 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10600: add ability to edit new authority record by duplicating existing one
20:36 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10600: (follow-up) change the icon for the action duplicate
20:36 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10600: (follow-up) fix unescaped ampersand
20:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10667 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , ILS-DI: AuthenticatePatron should also work with cardnumber
20:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Duplicate authority
20:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1421: SUCCESS in 1 hr 18 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1421/
20:54 * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9372: replace carriage return with <br /> in printed HTML files for overdues
20:54 * Galen Charlton: Bug 9372: (follow-up) tidy whitespace in new lines
20:54 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10667: Add unit tests for ILSDI::Services::AuthenticatePatron
20:54 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10667: Allow authentication with cardnumber for ILS-DI
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Automatic carriage return in message_queue where content_type is html
20:54 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10667: Follow up - prevent t/00-load from failing
20:54 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10667: (follow-up) fix reference to UT library in test case
20:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10667 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , ILS-DI: AuthenticatePatron should also work with cardnumber
20:55 cait :)
20:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #1422 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:06 * wizzyrea cautiously waves
21:06 cait why cautiously?
21:15 wizzyrea heh
21:16 rangi back
21:28 cait wb rangi
21:28 and good night all :)
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21:39 pianohacker wave with bravery!
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22:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1422: SUCCESS in 1 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1422/
22:16 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10600: add ability to edit new authority record by duplicating existing one
22:16 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10600: (follow-up) change the icon for the action duplicate
22:16 * Galen Charlton: Bug 10600: (follow-up) fix unescaped ampersand
22:16 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Duplicate authority
22:42 eythian hi
22:42 who has been taking my name in vain?
22:42 oh, no one. A false highlight.
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23:26 mtompset eythian: You want people to take your name in vain?
23:27 eythian I had a highlight in the channel when I got in this morning, was wondering what it was.
23:34 rangi interesting
23:34 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
23:34 rangi t/ILSDI_Services.t
23:34 is db_dependent
23:34 i should move that
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