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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:04 | dcook | We can hope so :) |
| 00:04 | I hope that you manage to get some clients to take a look as well | |
| 00:04 | The more eyes the better, me thinks | |
| 00:05 | pianohacker | yup :) Code is at https://github.com/pianohacker/koha/tree/pci if you want to take a look |
| 00:06 | modifications to the pazpar2 setup are needed to get it working, but it is doable :) | |
| 00:08 | dcook | Ah, I'm not much of a coding whiz myself. I've just worked in libraries for a while and get feedback here and there from clients using Koha. |
| 00:08 | Although... | |
| 00:08 | wahanui | i heard although was mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3 |
| 00:09 | dcook | I suppose a person could clone your git and run it through the Koha dev install? |
| 00:09 | pianohacker | dcook: Yup |
| 00:10 | mucking with pazpar2 is required to get the search working, but everything else should work | |
| 00:10 | dcook | Ah, I think I follow you now |
| 00:11 | Perhaps a bit outside my reach for the moment then :p | |
| 00:11 | Although I do have that one VM...perhaps I'll focus on the OAI-PMH harvester for now | |
| 00:12 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 00:12 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 00:13 | dcook | hey mtompset |
| 00:13 | wahanui | rumour has it mtompset is disliking finding bugs while testing |
| 00:13 | mtompset | jcamins: It seems you were right. No need for the plug in settings. |
| 00:13 | I'll going to reboot and check to make sure. | |
| 00:13 | ^ll^m^ | |
| 00:14 | Greetings, dcook. | |
| 00:44 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 01:32 | mtompset | Yep. No need for the plugins settings. Interesting. |
| 01:32 | jcamins | Why would you have thought that they were required? |
| 01:32 | mtompset | The word plugins. |
| 01:33 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 01:35 | mtompset | Well, off to fortify myself with caffeine and then actually create a test plan for this. |
| 01:41 | jcamins | Wow. The early Doctor Who is extraordinarily cheesy, isn't it? |
| 01:42 | pianohacker | yup |
| 01:42 | dcook | I've never watched it myself, but I've heard of this cheesy reputation, yep. |
| 01:46 | mtompset | which Doctor? |
| 01:46 | eythian | jcamins: it's quite funny how the moment anything happens, the female characters immediately go into hysterics. |
| 01:46 | jcamins | The first, I think. |
| 01:47 | eythian | Old crotchety man? That'd be Hartnell. |
| 01:47 | mtompset | old guy, black and white, william hartnell? |
| 01:47 | jcamins | Maybe. |
| 01:47 | mtompset | jon pertwee was three... |
| 01:47 | who was two again? | |
| 01:48 | http://www.bbc.co.uk/programme[…]/features/doctors (which one, jcamins?) | |
| 01:49 | jcamins | Yep. First Doctor. |
| 01:49 | wizzyrea | omg, I was watching some 7th doctor... his first companion was the shriekiest thing I'd ever heard. |
| 01:50 | I almost stopped watching it. | |
| 01:50 | Mel I think | |
| 01:51 | it's all pretty cheesy up until 2005 ;) | |
| 01:51 | don't get me started on the 8th doctor. | |
| 01:51 | mtompset | peri?! |
| 01:51 | I had a serious crush on her when I was a teenager. | |
| 01:52 | jcamins | Ian is currently dressed up as a the Ja'fa from Stargate. |
| 01:53 | mtompset | Mel? |
| 01:53 | I didn't like Mel. | |
| 01:53 | eythian | wizzyrea: the 8th one doesn't count I think |
| 01:53 | mtompset | Ace... now there's a companion... she liked to blow things up. |
| 01:54 | wizzyrea | ace was cool. |
| 01:54 | gmcharlt | who else could manage to take out a Dalek with a baseball bat? :) |
| 01:55 | wizzyrea | ^ so much this |
| 01:58 | jcamins | The next episode is the Warriors of DEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTHHHHHHHHH. |
| 01:58 | We decided it's too cheesy. | |
| 01:59 | wizzyrea | starting at series 1 episode 1 might be a bit extreme for the modern viewer. |
| 01:59 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 02:00 | wizzyrea | but starting with 9th doctor will get you into it... then you can go back and appreciate the cheesiness. |
| 02:00 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:00 | * wizzyrea | was exposed to the cheese at a relatively early age, so is less bothered by it |
| 02:03 | dcook | mmm cheese |
| 02:18 | pianohacker | okay, I should probably knock off for the day, but I need to know |
| 02:18 | Is the configuration of the fields in the 008 field determined by the material type field in the leader? | |
| 02:18 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 02:18 | Wasn't that just on the list? | |
| 02:19 | pianohacker | I think so. Wanted to confirm before I did the work to make that happen, though :) |
| 02:19 | Thanks | |
| 02:19 | dcook | pianohacker++ |
| 02:20 | pianohacker | Whoever thought it would be a good idea to mix encoding and semantic information in the leader, make the 008 have 7 different layouts depending on a completely different field... |
| 02:20 | that person should be shot. repeatedly. | |
| 02:20 | but then we'd just go on to shooting everyone responsible for MARC | |
| 02:21 | and as SATISFYING as that would be | |
| 02:21 | it would be much harder to hide that many bodies | |
| 02:26 | jcamins | pianohacker: yeah, it's a problem. |
| 02:26 | pianohacker | jcamins: but then I preach to the choir ;) |
| 02:28 | jcamins: [off] ahahahahaha, well, only as many as were necessary at the time, I'm sure | |
| 02:29 | * eythian | notes that that is not how [off] works. |
| 02:30 | eythian | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]3-09-05#i_1378451 |
| 02:30 | pianohacker | dammit |
| 02:30 | but thanks, eythian :) | |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]we-need-more-marc < pianohacker |
| 02:34 | pianohacker | yes... |
| 02:34 | I know someone will probably want to extend this editor to support RDA | |
| 02:34 | and that frightens me | |
| 02:35 | jcamins | pianohacker: RDA is supported by virtue of RDA being just MARC. |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea | http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]the-marc-standard |
| 02:35 | also this | |
| 02:36 | pianohacker | jcamins: True, though there would likely need to be some additions and work to support the new coded fields, from what I can tell |
| 02:36 | wizzyrea | and probably this, for good measure http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]to-implementing-a |
| 02:36 | dcook | pianohhacker: That seems odd |
| 02:36 | wizzyrea | if people would tell us what to do with the newly coded fields, we would do that. |
| 02:36 | dcook | As far as I can tell, there have just been modifications to existing fields and added fields |
| 02:37 | What do you refer to when you say "new coded field"? | |
| 02:37 | wizzyrea | probably the 3xx ones? the medium/carrier/otheroneican'tremember |
| 02:37 | * wizzyrea | might be wrong on the number |
| 02:39 | jcamins | There are no new fixed fields. |
| 02:39 | dcook | ^^ |
| 02:40 | * dcook | is wondering why he didn't use "BatchStageMarcRecords" in this harvesting script... |
| 02:41 | pianohacker | this was the main thing that looked like it would add complication: http://www.loc.gov/standards/v[…]t/rdacontent.html |
| 02:45 | jcamins | I don't see why you wouldn't just make it an authorized value. |
| 02:46 | wizzyrea | yes it seems to me that having that as a human enterable value is counter to the purpose of the field. |
| 02:47 | and you're right, it's not a fixed field. | |
| 02:47 | but it's a field with decently fixed values, if you're doing it properly. | |
| 02:47 | so I think we were just coming up against the same words with different interpretations. | |
| 02:48 | jcamins | I don't think so. |
| 02:48 | Fixed fields are a problem for a cataloging editor. | |
| 02:48 | Variable fields with a defined set of values are not. | |
| 02:49 | dcook | ^^ |
| 02:49 | wizzyrea | whatever, I think we can agree that "tactile notated movement" sounds like a veiled description for poop. |
| 02:49 | poop with annotations. | |
| 02:49 | jcamins | We already have complete support for 336. |
| 02:50 | Define an RDACONTENT authorized value category. Link to 336$b. Done. | |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | yes I know. |
| 02:50 | should we ship that by default? | |
| 02:50 | dcook | Probably wouldn't hurt |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | considering we don't want to ship a default RDA framework, I guess not. |
| 02:51 | dcook | Ah, but we are shipping a default RDA framework |
| 02:51 | wizzyrea | no we're not? |
| 02:51 | jcamins | Yeah, but our default frameworks are so out-of-date I'm not sure it matters. |
| 02:51 | dcook | RDA itself is not MARC |
| 02:51 | wizzyrea | there's no RDA framework in koha by default. |
| 02:51 | dcook | jcamins: Not the newest ones |
| 02:51 | 3.14 should have up-to-date MARC frameworks by default | |
| 02:51 | wizzyrea | as evidenced by people still needing to get it from the wiki. |
| 02:52 | dcook | I suppose it depends on how we define ship |
| 02:52 | jcamins | dcook: Oh, yeah. That's right. |
| 02:52 | I forgot about pushing it. | |
| 02:52 | wizzyrea | yea, I mean, when you install koha, there is no RDA framework. |
| 02:52 | jcamins | It's a year out of date. |
| 02:52 | dcook | Either mtj or bgkriegel brought it up to the Update 16 from April 2013, I believe |
| 02:52 | jcamins | bgkriegel. |
| 02:52 | wahanui | i think bgkriegel is on a signoff spree |
| 02:53 | dcook | wizzyrea: Sort of |
| 02:53 | Like I was saying, RDA isn't MARC | |
| 02:53 | jcamins | You don't actually need an RDA framework. Just a framework that isn't out of date. |
| 02:53 | dcook | MARC did add fields to accomodate RDA though |
| 02:53 | Yeah, what he said :p | |
| 02:54 | pianohacker | Okay, now that I've beat my head against MARC all day |
| 02:55 | I'm out of here | |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | yea probably best. |
| 02:55 | pianohacker | Good night all :) |
| 02:55 | dcook | night pianohacker |
| 02:55 | Looking forward to your continued efforts :) | |
| 02:55 | pianohacker | thanks dcook |
| 02:55 | pianohacker left #koha | |
| 04:06 | * dcook | will babble in channel then :p |
| 04:10 | dcook | Better to encase both timestamp and "from" argument in date() functions |
| 04:11 | Or...remove the date() function and remove the T and Z characters from the "from" argument... | |
| 04:11 | Probably the latter... | |
| 04:15 | Blearghh | |
| 04:19 | We're not really using UTC datestamps in the OAI-PMH server... | |
| 04:19 | But changing that now would be problematic for anyone using it currently... | |
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| 04:38 | dcook | On the other hand...if you're only passed a date... |
| 04:38 | it might make sense to compare only a date.. | |
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| 05:06 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:06 | dcook | morning cait |
| 05:09 | cait | morning dcook |
| 05:18 | mtompset | I really need to stop lurking. ;) |
| 05:19 | dcook | I should eat lunch earlier :P |
| 05:19 | mtompset | Greetings, cait dcook wizzyrea. |
| 05:19 | dcook | @wunder toronto, canada |
| 05:19 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is 16.0°C (1:00 AM EDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 05:19 | mtompset | Yes, it's crazy early. |
| 05:19 | dcook | Nah, crazy early might be... |
| 05:19 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 05:19 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.1°C (7:15 AM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:19 | dcook | Actually, that's not too bad |
| 05:20 | mtompset | Actually, that's ... exactly. |
| 05:22 | dcook | Sometimes, I want to write commit messages that say "take my word for it" :p |
| 05:22 | Oh well. Long (hopefully comprehensive) messages are what I do.. | |
| 05:22 | cait | @wunder Lippstadt |
| 05:22 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Geseke, Germany is 16.1°C (7:22 AM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:23 | dcook | Lippstadt? |
| 05:23 | cait | doing training today |
| 05:26 | dcook | Fun fun |
| 05:33 | cait | i hope it will be :) |
| 05:36 | dcook | \o/ |
| 05:39 | * dcook | tries to remember what he was originally doing before he found a somewhat unrelated bug |
| 05:39 | dcook | Lunch perhaps... |
| 05:41 | om nom nom | |
| 05:41 | * dcook | suddenly remembers rangi mentioning Casey...Sea Farer II...English channel swimming |
| 05:43 | dcook | http://www.dover.uk.com/channelswimming/swims/ isn't too encouraging |
| 05:45 | twitter++ | |
| 05:45 | 9.14 hours | |
| 05:46 | About 3.6 km/hr | |
| 05:48 | Maybe swimming from Gibraltar to Morocco is more intimidating than I thought... | |
| 06:13 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha. |
| 06:20 | dcook | Ahhhhhh |
| 06:21 | I finally understand "match_check" vs "match_point" | |
| 06:21 | Wait, no I don't | |
| 06:21 | Wait, yes I do | |
| 06:22 | Match Point compares two fields with identical fields/subfields | |
| 06:22 | But Match Check can be used to compare two different field/subfield pairs against each other | |
| 06:22 | So 999$c against 001 or 995$c or something | |
| 06:22 | Neat | |
| 06:22 | * dcook | wonders if it actually wroks |
| 06:22 | dcook | works even |
| 06:25 | Sweet match_check uses match_points. Less searching for me.. | |
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| 06:46 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:47 | magnuse | qateam++ |
| 06:48 | * dcook | waves to magnuse |
| 06:49 | * magnuse | waves to dcook, specifically |
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| 06:51 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:52 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 06:54 | reiveune | salut magnuse rangi dcook |
| 06:56 | dcook | bonjour reiveune :) |
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| 07:07 | dcook | Oh snap. Time to hurry home. No staying late today. |
| 07:07 | Au revoir and good night :) | |
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| 07:21 | samueld | hi everybody |
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| 08:17 | rangi | evening |
| 08:21 | magnuse | morning |
| 08:21 | :-) | |
| 08:22 | rangi | magnuse: http://slid.es/ranginui/oyster |
| 08:22 | go right one slide | |
| 08:25 | done with https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js | |
| 08:27 | magnuse | yay!! |
| 08:27 | rangi: is that a talk you are giving, or are you just practising? | |
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| 08:28 | rangi | brief lightning talk tomorrow |
| 08:28 | at | |
| 08:28 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 08:28 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 08:28 | rangi | http://catalyst.net.nz/Library[…]chnology_Workshop |
| 08:28 | hi drojf | |
| 08:29 | magnuse | rangi++ |
| 08:29 | mtj | hey rangi, lookin' good! |
| 08:30 | drojf | ho magnuse and rangi |
| 08:30 | mtj | the slid.es site is pretty cool |
| 08:32 | magnuse | rangi: seen https://metacpan.org/module/Test::RDF ? |
| 08:32 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'https://metacpan.org/module/Test::RDF', magnuse |
| 08:32 | magnuse | well, i wasn't talking to you, wahanui |
| 08:32 | wahanui | magnuse: sorry... |
| 08:32 | rangi | yeah i think im using it |
| 08:32 | magnuse | it's ok wahanui |
| 08:32 | rangi: cool | |
| 08:33 | rangi | yep i am |
| 08:34 | magnuse | ah yes https://gitorious.org/koha-mar[…]t/Koha_MARC2RDF.t |
| 08:34 | rangi | handy |
| 08:37 | magnuse | looks like it |
| 08:37 | wahanui | Can we get some hard data on that? |
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| 08:43 | Viktor | I can now confirm that magnuse is just as nice to meet in person as one might suspect :) |
| 08:44 | magnuse | yay! and i can confirm exactly the same thing about Viktor, if there was any doubt ;-) |
| 08:44 | Viktor | :) |
| 08:45 | And magnuse++ for two days of great workshoping | |
| 08:46 | rangi | ive met both of you in person, so i can vouch that it is true |
| 08:46 | drojf | koha web of niceness trust |
| 08:46 | magnuse | and Viktor++ for tirelessly working to bring koha to swedish libraries |
| 08:47 | drojf: :-) | |
| 08:47 | drojf | i know rangi is nice, so i can trust him about you two ;) |
| 08:49 | rangi | drojf: you met Viktor in edinburgh im pretty sure? |
| 08:50 | drojf | no, i did not. or at least i did not know who he is. i only heard later that he has been there |
| 08:51 | rangi | ahh |
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| 08:53 | Viktor | :) |
| 08:53 | magnuse | where's that group picture again? |
| 08:53 | kohacon12 | |
| 08:53 | wahanui | hmmm... kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June |
| 08:54 | Viktor | I had to run for the bus so I missed the picture. |
| 08:54 | magnuse | kohacon12attendees is http://koha-community.org/kohacon12-attendees/ |
| 08:54 | Viktor: ahh | |
| 08:55 | Viktor | But a quick google of images for "Viktor Sarge" should give a few correct results even if it's hard to tell when different people are served diferent results based on prior searches.. |
| 08:57 | But at least I recognize a whole bunch of nice people from the Edinburgh conference :) | |
| 09:00 | magnuse | hm, there are way too many people in that picture i have not met - i *need* to go to reno... ;-) |
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| 09:57 | * magnuse | is thrilled to see the beginnings of https://github.com/nichtich/Catmandu-RDF |
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| 12:27 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:28 | drojf | hm. resending your initial question an hour after my reply to the first mail is not really a motivation to answer again. |
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| 12:30 | drojf | hi oleonard |
| 12:32 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:32 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 12:32 | tcohen | hi drojf |
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| 12:58 | druthb | o/ |
| 13:16 | oleonard | tcohen: You asked if I was going to substitute alerts for bootstrap modals, and the answer is that I don't have a plan to do so. I think it would not necessarily be an easy switch, depending on the situation. |
| 13:29 | When importing MARC records, can you match on ISBN but only add items? That is, don't replace the existing MARC record? | |
| 13:30 | jcamins | Yes. Choose to keep existing records and add items. |
| 13:33 | oleonard | "Replace existing record with incoming record," "Add incoming record," or "Ignore incoming record (its items may still be processed)" |
| 13:34 | jcamins | Ignore incoming record. |
| 13:37 | oleonard | Hm... that wasn't working for me when I tested it. I'll have to try it again. |
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| 13:50 | oleonard | I must have done something wrong before. It worked this time. Thanks jcamins |
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| 14:58 | druthb | @quote random |
| 14:58 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #151: "<seneca> you guys are my heroes" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, August 31, 2011) |
| 15:03 | * oleonard | remembers that time... We all saved seneca from being crushed by the Daily Planet planet after it toppled from atop the Daily Planet building. |
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| 15:15 | oleonard | Hi cait |
| 15:16 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 15:16 | druthb | cait! |
| 15:16 | wahanui | cait! are you well? still home? |
| 15:16 | cait | druthb! |
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| 15:25 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:28 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10539: Followup for removing KohaTest unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f61160e8ce247aefa> / Bug 10539: Remove unused unit tests in lib/KohaTest <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e4146157da3b8aeb5> |
| 15:38 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10737: (follow-up) make the new 'Closed' column sortable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c88033d571ed6d1c6> / Bug 10737: Add "Add to basket" link on vendor search results page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3629b4733955fd3b7> | |
| 15:48 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10649 - Upgrade DataTables and move scripts out of theme directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]af8eb0b991b8636a7> | |
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| 15:54 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
| 15:54 | understood | |
| 15:56 | oleonard | Suggested replacement for the author/subject pop-up menus in the new Bootstrap OPAC: http://screencast.com/t/Gviv7lxr |
| 15:56 | jcamins: ^^ | |
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| 15:57 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 16:13 | druthb | Hi, mtompset! :) |
| 16:13 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. |
| 16:13 | * druthb | wriggles happily. |
| 16:14 | mtompset | Or should I say SkittlesBot? |
| 16:14 | * druthb | laughs evilly. |
| 16:14 | mtompset | An evil robot that is in love... What a strange mixture. :P |
| 16:14 | druthb | :P |
| 16:15 | speaking of evil, our Code Monkeys team is having a raucous debate in the nearby conference room. Rowdy bunch of geeks. | |
| 16:16 | mtompset | http://youtu.be/v4Wy7gRGgeA (Code Monkey) |
| 16:17 | druthb | Ah, Johnathan Coulton. |
| 16:19 | mtompset | But seriously?! Tab? :P |
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| 16:35 | mtompset | Greetings, nengard. :) |
| 16:35 | nengard | hiya |
| 16:35 | mtompset | Enjoy lunch! :) |
| 16:41 | oleonard | mtompset: Code Monkey likes Tab because when he takes one off the shelf he has the satisfaction of converting a Tab to a space. |
| 16:42 | * mtompset | grins, "Code monkey like!" |
| 16:43 | mtompset | oleonard++ # good explanation of code monkey. :) |
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| 17:23 | * cait | waves |
| 17:24 | jcamins | oleonard: looks good to me! |
| 17:25 | oleonard | Well then that's good enough reason to push it for testing. |
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| 17:29 | mtompset | 698MB?! Wow. Git is growing. |
| 17:30 | jcamins | mtompset: that's the download size? Yikes! |
| 17:31 | mtompset | Yep, just cloned a fresh one. |
| 17:32 | Greetings, cait jcamins. :) | |
| 17:32 | Greetings, hankbank. | |
| 17:33 | hankbank | greetings earthlings |
| 17:33 | * jcamins | resists the urge to ask why on earth you just cloned a new repo. |
| 17:35 | has low resistance, apparently. | |
| 17:35 | jcamins | mtompset: you do know that you can clone a repo with cp -R or rsync, right? |
| 17:36 | Or even git clone /my/old/repo/.git /my/new/repo | |
| 17:37 | mtompset | Just doing it as it is a new install. Don't want anything dangling. |
| 17:39 | So, you are saying a .git dir in any one of my repos could be git cloned into something that would be identical to a git clone from koha-community.org? | |
| 17:40 | jcamins | If you use cp -R or rsync, yes. |
| 17:40 | If you use git clone /my/old/repo/.git, you'd need to change the "origin" remote to point to git.k-c.org. | |
| 17:41 | mtompset | but that's just a config edit. |
| 17:41 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 17:43 | I have cloned git.k-c.org 2-3 times in recent memory. Once to get a repo at home, a few years ago. Once to set up a development repo on my development server. And I may have cloned my release management repo, but I'm not sure of that. | |
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| 18:22 | tcohen | mtompset: the only relevant thing tp copy is the .git dir itself |
| 18:22 | (if you want it quicker heh) | |
| 18:22 | jcamins | tcohen: true. |
| 18:22 | mtompset | That's what I understood jcamins to say, tcohen. |
| 18:23 | * tcohen | is just redundant |
| 18:24 | mtompset | not a problem. |
| 18:25 | Dumb question... looking at the OPAC interface. Why are the news items suddenly not visible if you log in? | |
| 18:26 | oleonard-away | I don't find that to be the case in the prog template mtompset |
| 18:27 | mtompset | Are you sure, oleonard? Because my screen says otherwise. Let me test on my fresh git install. |
| 18:29 | oleonard | Logged in, not logged in, I see news either way. prog and ccsr |
| 18:31 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 18:31 | mtompset | okay... here's the problem... |
| 18:31 | opac-user.pl | |
| 18:31 | It goes to opac-user.pl when you log in. | |
| 18:32 | oleonard | Yes it does :) |
| 18:32 | mtompset | If you click the koha logo, then you see the news again. |
| 18:33 | oleonard | Yes, because news is displayed on the OPAC home page |
| 18:34 | mtompset | Okay... but OPACNav is still visible on the opac-user.pl page. |
| 18:34 | Where would you put library hours? | |
| 18:34 | jcamins | Footer? |
| 18:35 | mtompset | opaccredits? |
| 18:35 | jcamins | I would. Unless you want to put them in the header. |
| 18:37 | mtompset | Patrons are assigned a branch. It would be nice to know the library hours once you log in. |
| 18:38 | Is there such a functionality in Koha? Or is this a patch idea waiting to happen? | |
| 18:39 | well, library hours, or branch specific announcements. | |
| 18:49 | oleonard | There could be if you used the multi-OPAC setup... Not sure if that still works? |
| 18:55 | cait | @wunder Lippstadt |
| 18:55 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Geseke, Germany is 24.6°C (8:52 PM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:55 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 18:55 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 33.9°C (1:55 PM CDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:04 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 19:04 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 26.4°C (3:01 PM EDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:05 | * oleonard | wonders what "Whitlind Woods" is... |
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| 19:25 | oleonard | Huh... I wouldn't have thought it would be valid to omit the "type" attribute of an <input>. I guess it defaults to "text" |
| 19:30 | cait | html5? |
| 19:30 | jcamins | @later tell drojf I have a project for you for after the GPG stuff: implement homomorphic encryption for circulation history so that people can choose to save their circ histories but not allowing the library access to that information. |
| 19:30 | huginn` | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:34 | cait | jcamins: interesting :) |
| 19:35 | jcamins: you know he will never finish writing his thesis that way? ;) | |
| 19:35 | jcamins | cait: new thesis topic! |
| 19:35 | :D | |
| 19:35 | cait | not sure that would work :) |
| 19:47 | jcamins | cait++ # for good advice on maple-bacon potatoes |
| 19:47 | cait | lol |
| 19:47 | yv | |
| 19:47 | yw | |
| 19:49 | druthb | cait++ |
| 19:54 | oleonard | cait has been channeling her inner Canadian? |
| 19:55 | jcamins | oleonard: I suddenly came over all peckish and in the mood for something maple-y. |
| 19:55 | So I asked cait how to make maple potatoes, and she told me. :) | |
| 19:55 | mtompset | multi-OPAC setup, oleonard? |
| 19:55 | * cait | is surprised herself |
| 19:57 | oleonard | mtompset: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rfaces_by_URL_RFC |
| 19:57 | mtompset: I'm not sure if there's better information around, or whether that has been tested recently | |
| 19:58 | mtompset | Hmmm... we'd prefer one URL (easy to disseminate), and use branch code to distinguish post log in. |
| 19:59 | oleonard | mtompset: Sounds like you've got a new development on your list |
| 20:25 | drnoe | hello #koha. regarding hard due dates: How would Koha know from the data in issues that a due date is a hard due date and if it's before, on, or after??? I am missing something here. |
| 20:26 | cait | it does know from the circulation rules |
| 20:26 | the hard due dates are calculated from the circulation rules on checkout - then it doesn't have to know later if it's a hard one or not, just a due date | |
| 20:27 | oleonard | Quitting time for me. Bye #koha |
| 20:27 | cait | before means = it calculates the regular circulation period - but the due_date must be before the hard due date entered in circulation rules, so the loan period might be shortened |
| 20:27 | drnoe | so a due date is a due date. so I am not missing anything there |
| 20:28 | cait | after means the due date minimum is that date, but it will also be after, if you have longer periods |
| 20:28 | and then it can be super hard.. being exactly the date | |
| 20:28 | i don't think you do - but i might not be understanding correctly what you are looking for | |
| 20:30 | drnoe | overdue items with a hard due date set are not changing upon renewal (apparently) |
| 20:31 | due date is not updating that is | |
| 20:35 | cait | what is the setting? |
| 20:35 | before, after or hard? | |
| 20:36 | what's the date due for the item and waht does the circulation rule say? | |
| 20:36 | drnoe | yeah, those were edited/deleted. nice for trouble shooting, eh? |
| 20:36 | this is going to be a wild goose chase | |
| 20:37 | cait | if the circulation rule was deleted |
| 20:37 | they should renew normally i think | |
| 20:37 | are you sure the problem is related to the hard due date setting? | |
| 20:37 | is there a rnewal period configured in the circulation rules? | |
| 20:37 | is the renewal calculated from today or from the date due (that can lead to see no change, if it's calculated from today) | |
| 20:39 | drnoe | again, hard to know since it was all changed. gonna push this one back with "need to know what the circulation rule was." thanks cait |
| 20:39 | cait | drnoe: it should not matter |
| 20:39 | only the current circulation rule | |
| 20:39 | koha can't care about something it does no longer know about :) | |
| 20:40 | you want to check the renewal period setting in the circulation rule and the renewal related settings in the system preferences | |
| 20:40 | drnoe | they have changed this stuff patron categories and all the circ rules, so it is no longer happening... |
| 20:41 | again, a bit hard to troubleshoot when it's not longer possible to replicate | |
| 20:48 | cait | ah ok |
| 20:48 | yeah | |
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| 21:57 | eythian | hi |
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| 23:33 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 23:33 | Loving the #libtechdream tweets from wizzyrea and rangi | |
| 23:36 | eythian | yeah, they're workshopping while I'm holding down the fort |
| 23:37 | dcook | Teamwork! |
| 23:38 | That's neat. They're running the workshop? | |
| 23:38 | Wait...libtechdream is a conference? | |
| 23:38 | I just saw them on twitter this morning so I'm totally unaware about the whole thing | |
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| 23:46 | eythian | no, it's a workshop |
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