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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | dcook | Yep, already has an id |
| 00:16 | jcamins | Problem solved. |
| 00:16 | Pumpernickel chocolate chip cookies are on the menu. | |
| 00:19 | dcook | Sounds...interesting :p |
| 00:27 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 00:43 | jcamins | dcook: if it's a TT plugin, you can make it translatable. |
| 00:43 | Actually, TT anything can be translatable. | |
| 00:43 | See... | |
| 00:43 | koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/text/explodedterms.tt | |
| 00:44 | dcook | Hmm, cool :) |
| 00:45 | Then maybe I should look at that again.. | |
| 00:47 | jcamins | The pumpernickel chocolate chip cookie dough tastes more like molasses chocolate chip cookie dough, but it's yummy. |
| 00:50 | dcook | Mmm food |
| 00:50 | I was too busy cleaning up horrifying cat litter boxes and barely catching a cab to the vet to even think about lunch.. | |
| 00:51 | * dcook | wonders how he's going to manage multiple cats and a baby |
| 00:51 | dcook | Not that there are any buns in the oven at present.. |
| 01:35 | rangi | 2013 is surely the year of the most annoying mail list users to date |
| 01:47 | dcook | I have an unrelated question... |
| 01:47 | What's the policy on sign offs from client libraries for vendors? | |
| 01:48 | gmcharlt | nice thing to see, but it's not an independent signoff |
| 01:48 | jcamins | We're all for them, and it's always a good idea to get them, but you'll still need another. |
| 01:48 | On the other hand, that can encourage people to sign off, if they know someone other than the developer has tested it. | |
| 01:48 | dcook | Makes sense. How will you know though unless the developer or the individual self-identifies? |
| 01:48 | rangi | it would mean id be more likely to attempt signing it off |
| 01:49 | because im less likely to find it doesnt even compile :) | |
| 01:49 | gmcharlt | rangi: one can hope, one can hope :) |
| 01:49 | dcook | Cool. I don't know how many people I could encourage but maybe a few |
| 01:50 | jcamins | dcook: if the individual is able to sign off on the patch without anyone knowing it's a customer of the developer, that probably means that the person in question is a Koha developer already. When I was RM, I would probably have accepted that as a sign off. |
| 01:51 | gmcharlt | it would be a bit like person B from an organization signing off on a patch by person A from the same organization |
| 01:51 | ideally, every organization that's big enough *should* be doing that -- that is, passing work through at least another set of eyes internally before submitting it | |
| 01:52 | jcamins | gmcharlt: yeah, but as I saw it, the barrier for signing off was high enough that if, for example, Mathieu signed off on a BibLibre patch, I'd take it as a sufficiently independent sign off. |
| 01:52 | gmcharlt | but, pace rangi, from the POV of an idepndent tester, that just increases the chance that it is worth *their* time to test it as well |
| 01:53 | as everything, it also depends on the care every tester displays when signing off | |
| 01:53 | some people's signoffs have more weight than others by repeated demonstration of their care and good judgment | |
| 01:54 | and in other areas (UNIMARC might become this) it may be necessary to consider relaxing the standards a bit for lack of enough folks in a position to test certain areas | |
| 01:54 | IOW, it can get fuzzy | |
| 01:55 | dcook | In the end, up to RM and QA discretion? |
| 01:55 | rangi | thats why we vote them in :) |
| 01:55 | gmcharlt | for the edge cases, yes |
| 01:55 | rangi | guidelines to follow |
| 01:56 | dcook | Sounds good to me. |
| 01:56 | I'm a fan of benevolent masters :p | |
| 01:56 | Err managers | |
| 01:57 | * gmcharlt | pushes the cat-o-nine-tails out of view ;) |
| 01:57 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:02 | rangi | http://vimeo.com/66169135 this is how i imagine all brooklyn librarians |
| 02:06 | * jcamins | writes about a freshman comp student writing a report on Old Ivy's football team the Groundhogs. |
| 02:07 | jcamins | Bonus points for anyone who recognizes the reference. |
| 02:07 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1373 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1371 2 days 5 hr ago) |
| 02:07 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFjxEfg_mEw <<-- pretty freaky |
| 02:09 | ibeardslee | doesn't seem they 'boats' are required to pick up crew oveboard anymore |
| 02:09 | rangi | thats what you have a chase crew for ;) |
| 02:11 | ibeardslee | it's not right |
| 02:11 | rangi | you'd kill them trying to pick them up with that thing |
| 02:12 | it has 2 speeds, stopped, and way too fast | |
| 02:12 | jcamins | What is that? |
| 02:12 | wahanui | that is a good idea. |
| 02:13 | rangi | massive catamaran |
| 02:13 | jcamins | It looks like some sort of alien spaceship. |
| 02:14 | * gmcharlt | had not associated sailboats and hydrofoils until just now |
| 02:15 | rangi | 44.15 knots i think is its current topspeed |
| 02:15 | gmcharlt | *blink* |
| 02:16 | rangi | http://www.americascup.com/en/[…]orning-briefing-2 |
| 02:16 | 50.8mph .. that's moving | |
| 02:19 | gmcharlt | and compares nicely with the overall speed record for sailboats, 65.45 knots |
| 02:20 | * jcamins | keeps the bonus points. |
| 02:21 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:21 | * dcook | has no idea about the reference |
| 02:21 | jcamins | Will it help if I tell you the first reference the freshman comp student finds is _Rip the Chipmunks off the field_ by J.B. Biggley? |
| 02:24 | dcook | It helps only insofar as I could Google it a bit :p |
| 02:34 | I hate that moment in Bugzilla where you see your duplicate bug in the AJAX list but you're typing too quickly and you miss it... | |
| 02:34 | I guess that's what searching is for.. | |
| 02:34 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 02:35 | And typing slowly. | |
| 02:35 | dcook | Blasphemy! |
| 02:38 | Hmm, whether to indicate in the commit message that I'm lazy... | |
| 02:39 | Relying on the "IssueLog" preference or adding a new system preference for "RenewLog" to log circulation renewals? | |
| 02:39 | * jcamins | would prefer IssueLog. |
| 02:39 | jcamins | But others will no doubt prefer a new syspref. |
| 02:39 | Honestly, I'd prefer disabling the ability to turn off logs. | |
| 02:40 | dcook | It is rather annoying when you look for a log just to find that it's been turned off (or never enabled) |
| 02:40 | jcamins | If you want to anonymize your logs, anonymize your logs using a cron job at the end of the day. |
| 02:41 | There _will_ be a time when you hit the wrong button, and you *know* you screwed up, but you can't quite remember what it was like before. | |
| 02:41 | * dcook | agrees |
| 02:41 | dcook | I might add it with IssueLog (which is how we've done it in the past anyway) |
| 02:41 | If others want a new syspref, they or I can add a follow-up | |
| 03:20 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 03:20 | Project Koha_master build #1373: FIXED in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1373/ | |
| 04:47 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:48 | @later tell jcamins I didn't realize that your comment about the freshman and Old Ivy was genuine | |
| 04:48 | huginn` | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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| 05:41 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:43 | dcook | hey ya cait |
| 05:43 | cait | hi dcook |
| 05:43 | just looking at your comment :) | |
| 05:43 | dcook | Mostly just me babbling, I think :p |
| 05:43 | cait | i had libraries quite unhappy about item searching in training recently |
| 05:43 | dcook | It might be useful to read my last comment last |
| 05:43 | Jared explained things which made me understand your example better | |
| 05:44 | cait | because the search does not look at the items line by line - so that's probably what I am afraid of |
| 05:44 | dcook | line by line? |
| 05:44 | cait | well item by item... |
| 05:44 | not mixing them all up | |
| 05:44 | probably i am babbling now | |
| 05:45 | let me check for the id - i didn't see one when i checked yesterday, weird | |
| 05:46 | dcook: i think language descriptions for a language facet would be best right now | |
| 05:47 | dcook: and for the other an include or something that has the strings you want - because authorized values will be one language only... which is always not as nice as having things translatable | |
| 05:47 | but not sure which you meant and i should probably be commenting on the bug | |
| 05:48 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 05:49 | dcook | jcamins mentioned the possibility of a translateable Template Toolkit plugin |
| 05:49 | That might be a good way of going | |
| 05:53 | cait | yeah, i was thinking something similar :) |
| 05:56 | dcook: checking for those ids again | |
| 05:56 | and you are right - i checked and still totally missed those :( | |
| 05:57 | dcook | I totally forgot about them as well :) |
| 05:58 | I was going to say that we should add them, but decided to take a last minute look for them and saw them there | |
| 06:01 | cait | lots of whitespace there in the template, i think i really missed them |
| 06:03 | dcook: i reset the status :) | |
| 06:04 | dcook | Cool :) |
| 06:13 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:13 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 18.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:13 | cait | now i only have to figure out how to get to work without getting wet :) |
| 06:15 | dcook | Umbrella? |
| 06:15 | Teleportation? | |
| 06:15 | @wunder sydney, australia | |
| 06:15 | huginn` | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:00 PM EST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:16 | cait | teleportation... that would be nice |
| 06:16 | dcook | Mmm, wouldn't it? |
| 06:16 | Mind you, I walked 7km yesterday without it. I probably wouldn't have done all that had I been able to teleprot.. | |
| 06:16 | teleport even | |
| 06:22 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:22 | dcook | hey ya magnuse :) |
| 06:23 | * cait | thinks she would spend the day meeting koha friends if there was teleportation |
| 06:23 | cait | morning magnuse |
| 06:25 | magnuse | kia ora cait and dcook |
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| 06:33 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 06:33 | wahanui | privet, gaetan_B |
| 06:33 | cait | hi gaetan_B |
| 06:33 | gaetan_B | hallo cait, wie geht's ? |
| 06:36 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
| 06:36 | @wunder marseille | |
| 06:36 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 23.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:36 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:36 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:36 | magnuse | @wunder konstanz |
| 06:36 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.9°C (8:35 AM CEST on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:41 | cait | dcook: hm |
| 06:41 | dcook: the more I think o fit | |
| 06:41 | the more i think the singlebranchmode limitation was the right thing to do. | |
| 06:41 | dcook: or that on by default is confusing by default... unless you have a specific use case | |
| 06:44 | dcook | I agree that it's potentially confusing having them on by default, but I think not having item-level facets all together isn't going to go down very well |
| 06:44 | Plus, it's not just facets | |
| 06:44 | You can accomplish the same thing via the advanced search | |
| 06:45 | Doing an advanced search for branch A and location B (or item type B, etc) will yield potentially misleading results | |
| 06:45 | Or rather "could" yield.. | |
| 06:46 | I think it might make more sense to fix the search rather than hiding facets. Mind you, fixing search isn't a trivial task... | |
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| 06:50 | cait | dcook: that's the problem |
| 06:50 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:51 | cait | dcook: i have added an opinion - but leaving as passed qa |
| 06:51 | dcook: offering features that don't quite work is making false promises i think | |
| 06:51 | dcook | Ok. Galen might have an opinion as well. |
| 06:51 | cait | more dangerous than not having the feature :) |
| 06:51 | dcook | Ah, but we already have made those false promises |
| 06:52 | This location facet isn't really any different from anything else | |
| 06:52 | cait | yeah probably, but thefacets will really pull it to the light |
| 06:52 | ok, time to run :) | |
| 06:52 | dcook | As you mentioned before, that's already the case |
| 06:52 | cait | sorry! |
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| 06:52 | dcook | @later tell cait People already realize that Koha searching isn't the best |
| 06:52 | huginn` | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:53 | dcook | Which is quite unfortunate when one thinks about the OPAC as a big search engine for users... |
| 06:57 | magnuse | yeah |
| 06:57 | search rewrite? | |
| 06:57 | wahanui | it has been said that search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
| 06:57 | magnuse | more people and companies could chip in there... |
| 06:58 | dcook | Agreed |
| 06:59 | Alas, I think it's one of those issues that isn't super visible | |
| 06:59 | Most users might not know when they're getting all the results they should (or getting ones they shouldn't) | |
| 06:59 | Or if they do realize, they don't raise it with anyone, because it's too timeconsuming | |
| 07:00 | Oh...how is it 5pm already... | |
| 07:00 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:01 | dcook | I'm having issues with OAI sets not showing up for Koha :( |
| 07:01 | I've run build_oai_sets.pl and the DB table looks all right but ListIdentifiers isn't showing anything.. | |
| 07:01 | I swear it did last week though.. | |
| 07:07 | magnuse | ListIdentifiers is supposed to show which sets each record belongs to? |
| 07:07 | dcook | Yep |
| 07:07 | As should GetRecord and ListIdentifiers, I believe | |
| 07:08 | It's part of the Header | |
| 07:08 | Me thinks it's currently set up just to show identifier and datestamp | |
| 07:08 | But the verb can take a setSpec for selective harvesting.. | |
| 07:10 | magnuse | does that work? |
| 07:11 | dcook | Yep, that part does |
| 07:11 | Which really is the most important part | |
| 07:20 | magnuse | ooh bug 10756 |
| 07:20 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10756 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Carousel Display of New Titles on OPAC home page |
| 07:21 | dcook | Oooh. Looks cool! |
| 07:22 | magnuse | yup |
| 07:22 | dcook | Oooo, it works with mouse scroll too |
| 07:24 | magnuse | it requires memcached? that's interesting |
| 07:25 | i wonder how it gets the images | |
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| 07:26 | magnuse | kia ora kf! |
| 07:26 | kf | hi magnuse :) |
| 07:26 | * kf | looks for dcook |
| 07:26 | * magnuse | urges dcook to run or hide |
| 07:28 | dcook | Mmm, I should run as it's 5:28pm but I'll... |
| 07:28 | Wait a minute...:p | |
| 07:28 | kf | magnuse: the question was more if i should run or hide :) |
| 07:28 | * dcook | doesn't think that he's that threatening :p |
| 07:29 | magnuse | kf: ah |
| 07:34 | dcook | Ahh...I should go... |
| 07:34 | * dcook | is silly for staying |
| 07:34 | kf | sleep well :) |
| 07:36 | dcook | Thanks :) |
| 07:36 | Have a good day kf, magnuse, any anyone lurking ;) | |
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| 08:33 | samueld | hi everybody |
| 08:53 | magnuse | hiya samueld |
| 09:41 | gah, needs signoff is at 163 again... | |
| 09:41 | next gbsd? | |
| 09:41 | wahanui | rumour has it next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 09:41 | magnuse | ooh, that's this friday, folks! |
| 09:49 | kf | is it? yay! |
| 09:50 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:51 | be there or be [_] | |
| 09:51 | [_] is square | |
| 09:51 | [_]? | |
| 10:00 | kf | wahanui: [_] is square |
| 10:00 | wahanui | OK, kf. |
| 10:00 | kf | [_]? |
| 10:00 | wahanui | [_] is square |
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| 10:07 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 10:22 | kf | hi drojf |
| 10:24 | drojf | hi kf |
| 10:52 | kf | hi khall |
| 10:52 | khall | hi kf! |
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| 11:31 | kf | oh wow thunder |
| 11:31 | loud! | |
| 11:31 | drojf | nice :) |
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| 12:37 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:37 | anyone else seen this problem in current master: add/edit items: click Edit: Undefined subroutine &main::plugin_parameters called ? Did not change anything in frameworks.. | |
| 12:38 | Edit marc record gives no problems | |
| 12:38 | jcamins | marcelr: I have not. Is it possible that you were using a plugin that has been deleted? |
| 12:38 | marcelr | i need to check that |
| 12:38 | has one been removed from the codebase | |
| 12:38 | ? | |
| 12:39 | jcamins | Hmmm... |
| 12:39 | I don't think so. | |
| 12:39 | Not in months and months. | |
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| 12:52 | kf | hm |
| 12:52 | can somen confirm that quotes only show up for untanslated (english) templates? | |
| 12:52 | the quotes list in the staff interface | |
| 12:52 | jcamins | In tools? |
| 12:52 | kf | yep |
| 12:52 | jcamins | It works fine in French. |
| 12:53 | kf | maybe i mistranslated something |
| 12:53 | it doesn't in german | |
| 12:53 | jcamins | And Norwegian. |
| 12:53 | wahanui | norwegian is like the german! |
| 12:53 | kf | you don't have german by chance? |
| 12:53 | jcamins | But not in German. |
| 12:53 | kf | meh |
| 12:53 | jcamins | Nor Arabic. |
| 12:54 | kf | intersting |
| 12:55 | * magnuse | breathes a selfish sigh of relief |
| 13:00 | * kf | pokes magnuse |
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| 13:07 | magnuse | kf? |
| 13:07 | wahanui | i think kf is very interested in accessibility |
| 13:07 | kf | lol |
| 13:07 | that was for your selfish sighing :) | |
| 13:08 | * magnuse | will refrain from that in the future, at least in public |
| 13:08 | kf | heh |
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| 13:28 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:29 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 13:30 | jcamins | Good morning. |
| 13:35 | kf | hi jcamins |
| 13:37 | kenza++ | |
| 13:37 | oleonard | Indeed. |
| 13:37 | kenza++ | |
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| 13:38 | kf | oleonard: you will still need to rebase :) i failed miserably at trying |
| 13:38 | it's probably not hard, i just got confused | |
| 13:38 | oleonard | Doing it now |
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| 13:48 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 13:48 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 13:48 | huginn` | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 20.0°C (10:00 AM ART on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:49 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 13:49 | and hi tcohen :) | |
| 13:54 | tcohen | hi kf |
| 13:59 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 13:59 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Morningside Place, Houston, Texas is 26.7°C (8:49 AM CDT on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: -999%. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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| 14:06 | tcohen | kf, would u give 10678 a try if have the time? |
| 14:07 | it proposes a small workflow change for z39.50 cataloguing | |
| 14:12 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 14:12 | huginn` | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 22.1°C (9:12 AM CDT on August 19, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #54 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
| 14:16 | Starting build #1374 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) | |
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| 14:20 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10704: make OPAC highlighting work across previous/next travel <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bba4c0cd0818785a7> / bug 10728: fix additional log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff3fe7864317e5e26> / Bug 10728: fix log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl <http://gi |
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| 14:22 | kmkale1 | Hello #koha |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Hey, kmkale1. Long time no see. :) |
| 14:23 | kmkale1 | Hi jcamins :-) Indeed!! how are you? |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Doing pretty well. Just launched a new product, which is always exciting. |
| 14:25 | kmkale | Good to hear that jcamins. ALl the best on the new project |
| 14:25 | jcamins | Thanks. Are you working on Koha again? |
| 14:25 | kmkale | No :-( |
| 14:26 | Just came to hang and meet friends | |
| 14:26 | :-) | |
| 14:26 | druthb | Hi, kmkale! :) |
| 14:26 | kmkale | hey Ruth :-) |
| 14:26 | gmcharlt | hi kmkale |
| 14:26 | kmkale | Hi Galen |
| 14:27 | So friends whats happening in kohaland? :-) | |
| 14:28 | jcamins | The RM for 3.12 survived the release process, barely, and is gradually recovering. |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | same old, same old, just baking some Koha Pi |
| 14:28 | kmkale | :-D and who is the brave RM? |
| 14:28 | * gmcharlt | is |
| 14:28 | jcamins | gmcharlt: hehe. Very nice. |
| 14:29 | kmkale | haha then nothing to worry about. Old hand at the helm!! |
| 14:29 | gmcharlt | hey! who are you calling old? ;) |
| 14:30 | kmkale | :-D urm experienced experienced :-P |
| 14:30 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 14:31 | kmkale | Hey one quick question : Is koha on Solr now? |
| 14:31 | jcamins | Not really, no. |
| 14:31 | kmkale | oh! |
| 14:32 | jcamins | There is some code for Solr, but it is not full-featured. |
| 14:32 | kmkale | So whats the roadmap? Zebra AND Solr or Only Zebra? |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Zebra-only until someone picks up the work on solr. |
| 14:34 | kmkale | humm. I thought Biblibre had a working setup with solr last time I was around |
| 14:35 | jcamins | They did, but it was based on 3.2. Some of their code has been ported, but not all. |
| 14:36 | kmkale | Oh. Just curious cause we are using Solr in our current project. |
| 14:36 | jcamins | I'm using ElasticSearch in my new project. It's great. |
| 14:40 | kf | bug 10678 |
| 14:40 | wahanui | bug 10678 is a nice and harmless improvement |
| 14:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50 |
| 14:40 | kmkale | Looks useful. Thanks jcamins |
| 14:40 | hi kf :-) | |
| 14:46 | bye friends. See you around :-) | |
| 14:51 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #54: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/54/ |
| 14:51 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 10728: fix log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl | |
| 14:51 | * Galen Charlton: bug 10728: fix additional log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl | |
| 14:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10728 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , subscription-renew generates unnecessary warnings in logs |
| 14:52 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #55 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:00 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order on OPAC tags list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b7d8491ffc41ec40c> / bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for self-check loan list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59a702047dee79137> / bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC search hi |
| 15:00 | gmcharlt | oleonard++ |
| 15:05 | tcohen | should postinstall script from packages handle SAX Parser selection? |
| 15:05 | jcamins | tcohen: it does. |
| 15:06 | tcohen | i don't see it jcamins |
| 15:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:06 | jcamins | tcohen: I don't know where, but it definitely sets up the SAX parser correctly. |
| 15:06 | gmcharlt | related, the issue becomes moot in Jessie |
| 15:07 | tcohen | i have a vanilla 12.04 with Expat set as the highest priority |
| 15:07 | gmcharlt | or rather, could become moot if we bump up the required version of MARC::File::XML to 1.0.1 |
| 15:08 | kf | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:08 | tcohen | does MARC::File::XML take care of setting its xml parser? |
| 15:08 | jcamins | tcohen: and you're having problems with parsing? |
| 15:09 | I found that the packages Just Worked when it camed to selecting a parser, and that I could not recreate any problems with other parsers anyway. | |
| 15:09 | tcohen | i just noticed sax_parser_print.pl said my setup was bad |
| 15:10 | maybe sax_parser_print.pl should not say Expat is bad | |
| 15:11 | gmcharlt | IIRC, there is an edge case where Expat is indeed bad |
| 15:11 | I don't have the details hand, however | |
| 15:11 | jcamins | gmcharlt: unfortunately, no one can come up with that edge case. |
| 15:11 | gmcharlt | s/bad/bad not suited for MARC::File::XML/ |
| 15:12 | jcamins | tcohen: I'm pretty sure that the packages load the correct XML parser anyway. |
| 15:13 | tcohen | i don't see the install scripts changing anything sax related |
| 15:14 | but i'm confident you are right, np | |
| 15:14 | jcamins | Try triggering a stacktrace in the correct SAX parser. I was concerned about the same thing initially, but found that it worked anyway. |
| 15:17 | tcohen | i'm on vacation today, don't have access to my dev server |
| 15:17 | does debian have the update-perl-sax-parsers script? | |
| 15:18 | it does | |
| 15:19 | jcamins | Looks like it. |
| 15:19 | wahanui | looks like it is only free as in beer but i think that will do for the person who is supposed to use it |
| 15:19 | * druthb | chucks a Skittle at wahanui. |
| 15:20 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10701: fix display of transit status on the bibliographic detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e5c7f0400bab0c363> |
| 15:24 | oleonard | wahanui: forget looks like it |
| 15:24 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot looks like it |
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| 15:24 | oleonard | wahanui: Looks like it is <reply> Can we get some hard data on that? |
| 15:24 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, oleonard |
| 15:24 | oleonard | dang |
| 15:25 | jcamins | wahanui: Looks like it is <reply> Can we get some hard data on that$ |
| 15:25 | wahanui | OK, jcamins. |
| 15:25 | jcamins | Looks like it |
| 15:25 | wahanui | Can we get some hard data on that$ |
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| 15:26 | jcamins | wahanui: Looks like it is s/\$/?/ |
| 15:26 | wahanui | ...but looks like it is <reply> Can we get some hard data on that$... |
| 15:26 | jcamins | wahanui: Looks like it is =~ s/\$/?/ |
| 15:26 | wahanui | I didn't have anything matching 'looks like it is', jcamins |
| 15:27 | jcamins | wahanui: Can we get some hard data on that =~ s/\$/?/ |
| 15:27 | wahanui | I didn't have anything matching 'can we get some hard data on that', jcamins |
| 15:27 | jcamins | wahanui: Looks like it =~ s/\$/?/ |
| 15:27 | wahanui | That doesn't contain '\$', jcamins |
| 15:27 | jcamins | wahanui: Looks like it =~ s/$/?/ |
| 15:27 | wahanui | OK, jcamins |
| 15:27 | jcamins | Looks like it. |
| 15:27 | wahanui | Can we get some hard data on that? |
| 15:27 | jcamins | Ha! |
| 15:27 | druthb | jcamins++ |
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| 15:29 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #55: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/55/ |
| 15:29 | Jonathan Field: Bug 10704: make OPAC highlighting work across previous/next travel | |
| 15:29 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10704 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Search term highlighting doesn't work beyond the first results page |
| 15:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #56 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:31 | Project Koha_master build #1374: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1374/ | |
| 15:31 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 10728: fix log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl | |
| 15:31 | * Galen Charlton: bug 10728: fix additional log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl | |
| 15:31 | * Jonathan Field: Bug 10704: make OPAC highlighting work across previous/next travel | |
| 15:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10728 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , subscription-renew generates unnecessary warnings in logs |
| 15:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1375 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 15:51 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 16:06 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #56: SUCCESS in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/56/ |
| 16:06 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9916 - Use DataTables in the OPAC | |
| 16:06 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC "most popular" page | |
| 16:06 | * Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC search history | |
| 16:06 | * Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for self-check loan list | |
| 16:06 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9916 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables in the OPAC |
| 16:06 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order on OPAC tags list |
| 16:06 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10701: fix display of transit status on the bibliographic detail page | |
| 16:06 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10701 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , In transit information doesn't display on the bibliographic detail page |
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| 16:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1375: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1375/ |
| 16:45 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9916 - Use DataTables in the OPAC | |
| 16:45 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC "most popular" page | |
| 16:45 | * Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for OPAC search history | |
| 16:45 | * Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order for self-check loan list | |
| 16:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9916 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables in the OPAC |
| 16:45 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: bug 9916: (follow-up) restore default sort order on OPAC tags list |
| 16:45 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10701: fix display of transit status on the bibliographic detail page | |
| 16:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10701 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , In transit information doesn't display on the bibliographic detail page |
| 16:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1376 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:24 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 17:24 | huginn` | gmcharlt: Quote #196: "oleonard: maybe if I didn't have all this Bugzilla stuff stored in my head I would be able to walk and chew gum at the same time." (added by wizzyrea at 04:41 PM, April 02, 2012) |
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| 17:46 | druthb | @quote random |
| 17:46 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #256: "<jcamins> Cool. New and spectacularly revised deduper works. And it is, if I may say, a super deduper." (added by wizzyrea at 03:33 AM, June 05, 2013) |
| 17:46 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:46 | * jcamins | amuses himself. |
| 17:47 | druthb | some persons are easily amused. |
| 17:47 | :P | |
| 17:47 | jcamins | You aren't amused by that quote? |
| 17:47 | druthb | oh, absolutely. |
| 17:58 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1376: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1376/ |
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| 18:04 | cait | good evening #koha |
| 18:06 | pianohacker | hey cait |
| 18:11 | rambutan | hi cait |
| 18:17 | cait | hi rambutan and pianohacker :) |
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| 18:27 | gmcharlt | jcamins: I call your attention to bug 10766 |
| 18:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10766 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Cataloging reservoir search broken if UseQueryParser is off |
| 18:27 | jcamins | gmcharlt: gosh that was fast. |
| 18:27 | I was going to patch it after I finished this e-mail. | |
| 18:27 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 18:28 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:28 | jcamins: you could fix opacsuppression if you got bored ;) | |
| 18:28 | and really only joking | |
| 18:28 | jcamins | cait: not a chance. |
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| 18:28 | cait | *sigh* |
| 18:29 | jcamins | 10766 is fixable. opacsuppression... not really. |
| 18:29 | cait | hm |
| 18:29 | not at all? | |
| 18:29 | jcamins | Well, given a saint, sure. |
| 18:29 | cait | i don't mean the general feature, just that it doesn't work with the queryparser |
| 18:29 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 18:29 | gmcharlt | jcamins: you'll notice somebody standing behind you holding up a brass halo ;) |
| 18:29 | jcamins | That I could fix. |
| 18:30 | cait | bug 10542 |
| 18:30 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10542 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries' |
| 18:30 | cait | gmcharlt++ #lol :) |
| 18:31 | * cait | wills her dinner to cook faster |
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| 18:46 | * druthb | waves to drojf, and offers a cookie. |
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| 19:18 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
| 19:18 | sometimes it's really tempting to mark all bugs somehow with one of the modules oleonard takes care of... :) | |
| 19:20 | oleonard | I'm always excited to find a bug I can fix hiding in a module that I don't normally fix bugs in. |
| 19:20 | cait | heh :) |
| 19:29 | drojf | if you ever wondered what berlin looks like in 2013, that's it http://www.demotix.com/news/24[…]-berlin/all-media |
| 19:31 | druthb: thanks for the cookie. don't feel like eating | |
| 19:32 | jcamins | drojf: can you eat things made with rye and spelt flour? |
| 19:33 | If there's no wheat. | |
| 19:34 | I know spelt is safe, but I'm not sure about rye. | |
| 19:35 | drojf | jcamins: i'm completely off gluten, so none of those |
| 19:35 | jcamins | drojf: I thought spelt was gluten-free? |
| 19:36 | drojf | no it's no |
| 19:36 | not | |
| 19:36 | jcamins | Hm. |
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| 19:36 | jcamins | I did not know that. |
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| 19:37 | drojf | would be much easier then, i liked spelt more than wheat anyway |
| 19:38 | jcamins | Are we proposing to get rid of the cataloging search? |
| 19:39 | oleonard | jcamins: It sounds like the hangup is the ability to search the reservoir |
| 19:39 | jcamins | I don't quite know what we'd get by removing that. |
| 19:40 | I mean, unless we're going to go the Biblionarrator route and massively reconceptualize the catalogue to eliminate the distinction between "professional" and "public" interfaces. | |
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| 19:40 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 19:40 | gmcharlt | jcamins: oh, that's easy: CCL for ALL! |
| 19:40 | ;) | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | And I'm not saying it would be a bad thing to do that. I think it's a great idea. But not something I foresee happening. |
| 19:41 | gmcharlt: I prefer QP syntax. It's far less ambiguous. | |
| 19:41 | oleonard | How do you explain to the user the difference between results returned by a regular search and those returned by a "cataloging search?" |
| 19:44 | jcamins | I generally don't, other than "cataloging search includes results from the reservoir." |
| 19:46 | pianohacker | I'm separating the two completely in the new cataloging editor, actually |
| 19:47 | my hope is to also be able to save to the reservoir and use it as a staging area for records, if that's your thing | |
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| 19:54 | alaquerre | Hi all, quick question : Is there any way to add "logic" in the ISBD sys. pref ? My case is : I would like to move a field display only if the first line is empty. ( If 100$xx are empty, move 260$c after 245$xx, if 100$XX is not empty display 260$c before 245$xx). |
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| 19:56 | alaquerre | Reference : http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ion.html#isbdpref |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | alaquerre: What you're talking about would be much easier with XSLT |
| 19:57 | alaquerre | I know but user are asking us to be able to do so. |
| 19:58 | jcamins | alaquerre: I do not think that can be done. |
| 19:58 | Though I could be wrong. | |
| 20:00 | alaquerre | I did try to put in javascript but did'nt work.. thanks anyway! :-) |
| 20:06 | * cait | waves again |
| 20:06 | switches to mean qa mode | |
| 20:08 | cait | hm. |
| 20:08 | khall: still around? | |
| 20:09 | mtompset | mean qa mode?! |
| 20:09 | Is there a non-mean qa mode too, cait? | |
| 20:09 | cait | not really |
| 20:11 | jcamins | There's "not doing QA." |
| 20:12 | cait | hm yeah |
| 20:12 | but right now I woudl ike to know why this test fails | |
| 20:13 | hm, does db_d/Circulation.t fial for someone else? | |
| 20:13 | I think it should work... but it doesn't | |
| 20:13 | for me | |
| 20:13 | jcamins | It passes for me. |
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| 20:14 | cait | ah he flees. |
| 20:14 | jcamins: i htink i am missing something in my database probably | |
| 20:15 | aah | |
| 20:15 | mismathc of ids between reserves and old_reserves? | |
| 20:15 | truncating old_reserves fixed it | |
| 20:21 | tcohen | cait, question on top most circulated items |
| 20:21 | cait | uhoh |
| 20:21 | ok? :) | |
| 20:21 | tcohen | would u agree that if no check-in filter is passed, current loans should be considered too? |
| 20:28 | cait | tcohen: um |
| 20:28 | where is that? | |
| 20:28 | wahanui | well, that is a good idea. |
| 20:28 | cait | not sure what we are talking about :) |
| 20:29 | tcohen | cgi-bin/koha/reports/cat_issues_top.pl |
| 20:30 | cait | tcohen: hm i think i disagree |
| 20:30 | maybe we should have a checkbox | |
| 20:30 | include/not include checked out items | |
| 20:31 | does it query issues and old_issues already? | |
| 20:31 | tcohen | it only queries old-issues |
| 20:32 | cait | hm i think that's not an easy question |
| 20:32 | but i wouldn't make it dependenton the checkin /checkout dates | |
| 20:32 | i think i wouldn't expect that to make a difference | |
| 20:32 | tcohen | it depends on the definition of "circulated" I guess |
| 20:33 | oleonard | Bye everyone |
| 20:33 | cait | tcohen: maybe |
| 20:33 | tcohen: i think an explicit filter would be nicest | |
| 20:33 | tcohen | but "renewed" should count as checked-in and then checked-out again |
| 20:33 | cait | hm no i don't think so |
| 20:34 | i know some ils does it that way | |
| 20:34 | tcohen | ok, so it is customary to count only checked-in items, and libraries expect Koha to work like that |
| 20:35 | cait | i don't really know :( |
| 20:35 | you might want to ask some more people - maybe wizzyrea | |
| 20:35 | tcohen | our libraries don't use the report because they find it in-accurate |
| 20:36 | cait | i think it really depends on definition a lot |
| 20:36 | tcohen | yeah, I guess |
| 20:36 | thanks cait | |
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| 20:57 | wizzyrea | sorry I saw my neam |
| 20:57 | name* | |
| 20:57 | cait | tcohen was confusing me about the most circulated item reports |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | also good morning |
| 20:57 | cait | and i was hoping for your help :) |
| 20:58 | * wizzyrea | wonders why it doesn't ask statistics. |
| 20:58 | cait | also an excellent question |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | the question is whether "most circulated" should look at current loans in addition to completed loans? |
| 21:00 | cait | one of the questions i guess |
| 21:08 | rangi | kenza++ |
| 21:08 | joubu++ | |
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| 22:05 | cait | night all |
| 22:05 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 23:22 | dcook | morning #koha |
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| 23:35 | mtompset | Greetings, dcook. :) |
| 23:35 | dcook | hey ya mtompset |
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