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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | tcohen | would you #koha like to check this? |
| 00:00 | dcook | ? |
| 00:00 | On a side note, it turns out that there is a town called "Italy" in Texas | |
| 00:00 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy,_Texas | |
| 00:00 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Koha 3.12.2 is a bugfix/mainte" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132 |
| 00:01 | tcohen | sorry dcook, was taking about that paste |
| 00:02 | does it even *look* ok | |
| 00:02 | ? | |
| 00:03 | that is meant to be part of the release notes | |
| 00:03 | dcook | Well, I'd put "perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u", but I don't think it really matters |
| 00:04 | tcohen | i'll fix it in the email I think, thanks dcook |
| 00:04 | dcook | But yeah, it looks good |
| 00:04 | That's the first time I've ever actually run that script too.. | |
| 00:04 | tcohen | heh |
| 00:05 | dcook | Whoa...so that's how you get to print color as well.. |
| 00:05 | * dcook | might use that sometime.. |
| 00:07 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "try this at the end of .bashrc dcook" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/133 |
| 00:07 | dcook | tcohen: What's that? |
| 00:07 | wahanui | that is a good idea. |
| 00:07 | dcook | Clever, wahanui :p |
| 00:08 | tcohen | some colors for the terminal, and a nice trick when browsing git dirs |
| 00:08 | dcook | Hmm, cool |
| 00:08 | I was thinking more so for printing for other people, but I might have to try this too | |
| 00:09 | tcohen | (shows the current branch you're on, and even if you're in the middle of a cherry-pick, am or rebase ;)) |
| 00:09 | dcook | Hmm, looks like I pasted in something wrong.. |
| 00:10 | tcohen | the ending '? |
| 00:11 | dcook | Don't know? |
| 00:11 | tcohen | should have said *trailing* right eythian? |
| 00:12 | dcook | __git_ps1: command not found |
| 00:15 | tcohen | do u have bash-completion installed? |
| 00:15 | dcook | I just saw that on a forum ;) |
| 00:15 | I doubt it? | |
| 00:15 | tcohen | sudo apt-get install bash-completion |
| 00:16 | dcook | I don't run a Debian system ;) |
| 00:16 | Although I really should.. | |
| 00:16 | tcohen | oh, what do you run |
| 00:16 | ? | |
| 00:16 | dcook | openSuse |
| 00:16 | wahanui | openSuse is not used by many developers, and will likely be difficult to get Koha working with. |
| 00:16 | dcook | And not so much run, as use |
| 00:16 | tcohen | zypper install bash-completion maybe? |
| 00:16 | dcook | Hmm, looks like it is installed |
| 00:17 | Mm, but possibly on a different file system | |
| 00:17 | tcohen | edit /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 00:17 | there should be 3 or 4 lines related to bash completion, commented out | |
| 00:17 | oh, gotta upload the release :-D | |
| 00:17 | dcook | Nope, they aren't commented out |
| 00:17 | Have fun! | |
| 00:26 | tcohen | which will finish first? uploading using this slow connection or jenkins? |
| 00:28 | dcook | IE-- |
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| 00:35 | dcook | Luckily, it was just trailing commas... |
| 00:36 | Or not... | |
| 00:37 | Well, trailing commas and IE7 being such garbage... | |
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| 01:08 | rambutan | whoami |
| 01:13 | tcohen | night #koha, hope everyone enjoys the release |
| 01:13 | bye! | |
| 01:16 | rambutan | good night tcohen |
| 02:08 | dcook | IE-- |
| 02:08 | Why on Earth...would older versions of IE use the innerHTML of a button as the element value rather than the actual value attribute?!?! | |
| 02:09 | I suppose it could've been a different time | |
| 02:09 | Where button elements were more like submit elements... | |
| 02:09 | But still... | |
| 02:09 | * dcook | grimaces |
| 02:18 | jcamins | dcook: we usually use inputs for buttons that are getting submitted. |
| 02:19 | dcook | jcamins: I don't think that's an option in this case :/ |
| 02:19 | jcamins | dcook: awww. |
| 02:20 | dcook | Basically, I created a mailing list feature that relies on search queries |
| 02:20 | And now I've added in buttons on the search history page where you can add a past search query to your list of "interests" to track | |
| 02:21 | jcamins | If it makes you feel any better, I've hit a point where Bootstrap's responsive layout gives me The Look and walks away, leaving my layout a mess. |
| 02:21 | dcook | So it sends the search query via ajax to a processing script, and if it saves, the button disables itself and any other buttons on the same page linked to the same query |
| 02:21 | Ouch | |
| 02:21 | What's the scenario? | |
| 02:21 | wahanui | the scenario is a problematic patch across versions. |
| 02:22 | jcamins | I want breakpoints that are not 768/1024/1200. |
| 02:24 | And navbars on tablets. | |
| 02:29 | Well, at least I managed to get the navbar on the bottom for tablets. | |
| 02:30 | dcook | Navbar! |
| 02:30 | I ended up using a hidden element which seems to work fine, but I hate creating ugly workarounds for IE7 and older | |
| 02:31 | Hmm, quick git question, if you have time | |
| 02:31 | I have a recent "kohaclone" tracking from git.koha-community.org | |
| 02:31 | I also want to point to another remote repo though.. | |
| 02:31 | Do I clone into the same directory? | |
| 02:32 | jcamins | No, definitely not! |
| 02:32 | cjh | no, man git remote add |
| 02:32 | jcamins | In kohaclone, use git remote add. |
| 02:32 | dcook | That makes much more sense |
| 02:32 | The instructions I left myself are...silly | |
| 02:32 | * dcook | is setting up a dev vm :) |
| 02:33 | dcook | cjh: I looked at gitify a bit but it looks like it just links a few directories? |
| 02:33 | cjh | dcook: that is all it needs to do :) |
| 02:33 | dcook | cgi-bin and htdocs? |
| 02:33 | cjh | well, change the links |
| 02:33 | wahanui | cjh: that doesn't look right |
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| 02:34 | dcook | What about the perl modules? |
| 02:34 | cjh | all gitify does it change a koha instance from using /user/share to a specified git checkout |
| 02:34 | dcook: it doesnt handle install, as teh instance must already be set up. | |
| 02:34 | dcook | Right. I mean the modules in C4 and Koha |
| 02:35 | rambutan left #koha | |
| 02:35 | dcook | Oh wait... |
| 02:35 | cjh | PERL5LIB? |
| 02:35 | wahanui | i guess PERL5LIB is set to /home/koha/kohaclone |
| 02:35 | dcook | Yeah, I just noticed that |
| 02:35 | cjh | it also sets that :) |
| 02:35 | wahanui: thanks. | |
| 02:35 | wahanui | de rien cjh |
| 02:36 | dcook | Sweet. I'm going to give that a go in a moment once I set up this remote repo |
| 02:45 | Hmm, not working so well.. | |
| 02:45 | How do folks track other git repos\ on their LAN? | |
| 02:46 | jcamins | I use SSH. |
| 02:46 | dcook | I'm thinking that's probably my best bet, eh? |
| 02:48 | cjh | git remote -vv |
| 02:48 | catalystgit+ssh://chrishgit.catalyst.net.nz/git/public/koha.git |
|
| 02:48 | hmm spacing screwed up, meant to be catalyst git+ssh://chrishgit.catalyst.net.nz/git/public/koha.git |
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| 02:52 | dcook | Hmm, I wonder what I'm missing. |
| 02:52 | I keep getting the following: | |
| 02:52 | fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. Did you intend to checkout 'pro/pro38' which can not be resolved as commit? | |
| 02:53 | cjh | what did you do and what are you trying to do |
| 02:53 | jcamins | ^^ exactly |
| 02:53 | dcook | I'm just trying to check out a new branch :S |
| 02:53 | cjh | git remote add arbitrary-name git://some-path |
| 02:53 | git fetch --all | |
| 02:53 | dcook | Mmm |
| 02:53 | cjh | git checkout arbitrary-name/some-branch |
| 02:53 | dcook | That would help if I actually fetched from it |
| 02:53 | cjh | :) |
| 02:55 | dcook | Much better |
| 02:55 | Thanks cjh :) | |
| 02:56 | I take it you guys must use keys rather than passwords as well | |
| 02:56 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 02:56 | dcook | I suppose using passwords for fetching and pushing wouldn't be super irritating, but.. |
| 02:56 | * Oak | waves |
| 02:56 | dcook | hey Oak |
| 02:59 | cjh | dcook: I dont ever use passwords for ssh |
| 02:59 | I use keys, but the keys are password-protected. | |
| 03:04 | dcook | Password-protected keys? |
| 03:04 | Oak | hey dcook |
| 03:04 | cjh | dcook: yes, all my ssh keys require passwords to use them, so if someone steals my computer they cannot use my keys. |
| 03:06 | dcook | cjh: Makes sense. So do you mean password-protected at the login level or closer to the actual usage of those keys? |
| 03:06 | cjh | password protected at the local level, as in when I generated my ssh keys I provided a password |
| 03:06 | you can have either | |
| 03:06 | I don't unlock my keys on login as I use a different password for them | |
| 03:07 | but I will sometimes use ssh-add to unlock my keys if I plan to use them many times in a row | |
| 03:07 | jcamins | I unlock my keys at login using... something... but it requires me entering a second password. |
| 03:07 | dcook | Intriguing.. |
| 03:07 | jcamins | ssh-agent |
| 03:07 | And ssh-add | |
| 03:07 | cjh | I generally only unlock my keys when I want to do something with them |
| 03:07 | dcook | I'll have to keep that in mind as well |
| 03:08 | cjh | yes I have ssh-agent running, but optionally add/remove keys based on usage |
| 03:08 | the idea being if I am not working on koha then my koha keys shouldnt be unlocked etc. | |
| 03:08 | jcamins | cjh: oh, I see. I only use ssh-agent for the ssh key I use regularly. |
| 03:09 | cjh | I have many keys for different things, and ssh-agent only ever knows about the key(s) I am using at that time :) |
| 03:09 | on my desktop I am more liberal and often ssh-agent knows about far too many keys | |
| 03:15 | dcook | Ugh...something nasty has happened.. |
| 03:15 | cjh | what did you do and what are you trying to do |
| 03:15 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:15 | cjh | wahanui: ask dcook is <reply>what did you do and what are you trying to do |
| 03:15 | wahanui | cjh: no idea |
| 03:16 | dcook | Ouch :p |
| 03:16 | cjh | wahanui: be dcook is <reply>what did you do and what are you trying to do |
| 03:16 | wahanui | i don't know, cjh |
| 03:16 | cjh | wahanui: you will pay for this. |
| 03:16 | wahanui | cjh: huh? |
| 03:16 | dcook | It looks like some files have become "unhinged" |
| 03:16 | cjh | git clean |
| 03:16 | dcook | They're from git.koha-community.org, but they're just floating around |
| 03:16 | cjh | as long as those files are added and committed somewhere then they are safe to remove |
| 03:17 | dcook | Hmm, that helped |
| 03:17 | It's not removing a few files though | |
| 03:17 | cjh | you may have to run it with an army of flags |
| 03:18 | git clean -f -d -x | |
| 03:18 | or something :) | |
| 03:18 | dcook | -x looks pretty good :D |
| 03:18 | or maybe -X | |
| 03:18 | * cjh | makes magicl gestures |
| 03:18 | cjh | magical even |
| 03:19 | wizzyrea | -f for force, -d for directories |
| 03:19 | dunno what x is | |
| 03:19 | :P | |
| 03:19 | cjh | -x for removing files that git usually ignores |
| 03:19 | dcook | cjh: Beautiful :). Thanks again! |
| 03:19 | cjh++ | |
| 03:19 | cjh | so in theory that should remove everything that isn't useful |
| 03:21 | dcook | In practice, it did :) |
| 03:21 | cjh | sometimes odd things happen and I also need to `git reset --hard HEAD` |
| 03:22 | dcook | Yeah, I did one of those at the start, as it thought I had modified some files |
| 03:22 | Silly, git | |
| 03:22 | I am constantly amazed by how powerful Git is though | |
| 03:22 | cjh | it makes life so much easier :) |
| 03:22 | <3 rebase | |
| 03:22 | dcook | Agreed :) |
| 03:22 | If only my VM were faster.. | |
| 03:23 | Already upped its RAM | |
| 03:23 | Might be able to give it more cpus.. | |
| 03:24 | Whoa, git. Why are you using nano instead of vim... | |
| 03:24 | cjh | $EDITOR |
| 03:25 | echo $EDITOR | |
| 03:25 | or $VISUAL or git.core.editor setting :) glhf | |
| 03:25 | git config --global core-editor | |
| 03:26 | dcook | Hmm, neither seems to be set |
| 03:26 | cjh | then set one to vim :) |
| 03:27 | dcook | Much better :) |
| 03:27 | cjh++ | |
| 03:28 | cjh | my empire grows :) |
| 03:29 | dcook | @karma cjh |
| 03:29 | huginn` | dcook: Karma for "cjh" has been increased 34 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 34. |
| 03:29 | cjh | decreased 0 time, that can't be right. |
| 03:30 | dcook | @karma dcook |
| 03:30 | huginn` | dcook: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
| 03:30 | dcook | Whew |
| 03:30 | Haven't angered anyone too much yet, I guess | |
| 03:31 | And no pushing to a currently checked out branch...makes sense | |
| 03:31 | All right, I think I'm ready for gitify :) | |
| 03:37 | cjh: So I just drop "koha-gitify" into "usr/sbin"? | |
| 03:38 | cjh | dcook: I just have a git clone at ~/devel/koha-gitify and run it manually |
| 03:38 | dcook | Hmm, I could set up a remote for your Github too.. |
| 03:38 | Cool, I'll give that a go | |
| 03:38 | cjh | you could always clone it and place it in /usr/sbin if you wanted, but I dont use it often enough to need it in my path. |
| 03:38 | dcook | Mmm, makes sense |
| 03:38 | Hmm, I've never cloned from Github | |
| 03:39 | Other methods.. | |
| 03:40 | So Github only uses http and ssh? | |
| 03:40 | cjh | git clone https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify.git |
| 03:41 | dcook | Yeah, that's what I was thinking |
| 03:41 | * dcook | wishes that he understood the git protocol better |
| 03:41 | dcook | Then if I want to push back to your repo, I need to use my own account? |
| 03:41 | cjh | dcook: well you can't push to it without me granting you access |
| 03:42 | so on github you would make a fork and push to that | |
| 03:42 | dcook: or email me a git format-patch :) | |
| 03:42 | dcook | Then do a pull request? |
| 03:42 | Mmm, that's true | |
| 03:42 | cjh | make an issue and attach a patch there |
| 03:42 | choose your workflow :) | |
| 03:43 | dcook | Cool beans :) |
| 03:44 | wizzyrea | can't you do some trickery on github where you edit the file there |
| 03:45 | then suggest that as a commit | |
| 03:45 | dcook | Ahh, I see. This needs to be in its own repo as well...so that you can point to your koha repo |
| 03:45 | cjh | wizzyrea: there is also that, but I dont use github very much :) |
| 03:45 | mtj | hey, speaking of github… i recently got the qa-tools repo working with travis |
| 03:46 | https://travis-ci.org/KohaAloh[…]test-tools/builds | |
| 03:46 | cjh | wizzyrea: I did my first pull request the other day, convuluted... |
| 03:46 | mtj | https://travis-ci.org/KohaAloh[…]ls/builds/9202410 |
| 03:46 | wizzyrea | is that like jenkins' cousin? |
| 03:46 | cjh | heh |
| 03:46 | mtj | wiz, yeah :) |
| 03:47 | i thought i might try and get Koha building with travis next | |
| 03:47 | dcook | Hmm |
| 03:48 | cjh: How do I get this script to run? | |
| 03:48 | cjh | dcook: cd koha-gitity, ./koha-gitify |
| 03:48 | dcook | derp |
| 03:48 | Oh? | |
| 03:48 | cjh | you may need to 'chmod +x koha-gitify' first |
| 03:49 | dcook | Mmm, and run as sudo |
| 03:49 | Err root, using sudo.. | |
| 03:49 | cjh | yes |
| 03:49 | dcook: documentation is a bit iffy :p | |
| 03:50 | mtj | joubu and i have sometimes broken the qa-tools repo with bad commits :/ |
| 03:50 | ... travis should now catch those problems | |
| 03:50 | dcook, cd koha-gitity; ./koha-gitify | |
| 03:51 | cjh | as sudo, and then specify which koha instance and the git checkout/clone |
| 03:51 | dcook | Looks good :) |
| 03:51 | mtj | s/,/;/ ? |
| 03:51 | dcook | Although I had the wrong branch when I restarted apache |
| 03:51 | * dcook | waits for his VM to slowly check out the branch.. |
| 03:51 | cjh | dcook: you only need to restart apache when gitifying, not when changing branch |
| 03:51 | unless you are using plack or something that caches things :) | |
| 03:51 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 03:52 | dcook | Makes sense. I had the branch set to koha-gitify though |
| 03:52 | So apache gave me some warning messages | |
| 03:52 | That's all :) | |
| 03:52 | cjh | 'the branch set to koha-gitify' ? |
| 03:52 | dcook | Originally, I just added your repo to my koha git |
| 03:52 | cjh | ahhhh |
| 03:52 | that is... odd | |
| 03:53 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 03:53 | cjh | :) |
| 03:54 | dcook | Ahhh |
| 03:54 | I just remembered that our local Koha uses some Perl modules from CPAN | |
| 03:55 | Oh well. I'll deal with that later. | |
| 03:59 | Looks good, cjh :) | |
| 03:59 | cjh++ | |
| 04:00 | cjh | awesome. |
| 04:00 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, cjh |
| 04:16 | mtj | hmm, i thought the tweeter was ignoring ReTweets... |
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| 05:39 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 05:39 | dcook | hey ya drojf :) |
| 05:39 | drojf | hi dcook |
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| 06:44 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:49 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
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| 06:59 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 07:03 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 07:12 | cjh | ok time to work out this release thing... |
| 07:17 | wizzyrea | glhf |
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| 07:20 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:28 | wizzyrea | hiyas |
| 07:37 | kf | cjh: have fun :) |
| 07:38 | cjh | heh thanks guys :) |
| 07:40 | dcook | cjh++ |
| 07:40 | * dcook | is a one man karma increasing machine. |
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| 07:47 | dcook | night all |
| 07:47 | wahanui | goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
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| 08:07 | kf | cjh++ :) |
| 08:19 | cjh | hmm I don't seem to have permission to scp files to bugs.koha-community.org as chrish |
| 08:19 | wasnt able to last time, jcamins helped me out :) | |
| 08:24 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 08:25 | kf | wondering who will wake up first |
| 08:25 | maybe you could email galen or rangi? | |
| 08:27 | wizzyrea | i might be able to help ou but not until after bedtime |
| 08:28 | cjh | heh, when is bedtime? |
| 08:28 | wizzyrea | about 30 mins |
| 08:28 | :/ | |
| 08:28 | cjh | I can look busy for 30 mins |
| 08:29 | * cjh | rings soren to remind him how tired he is today... |
| 08:29 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 08:32 | kf | yay |
| 09:05 | wizzyrea | ok sorry cjh |
| 09:06 | cjh | you are free? |
| 09:07 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 09:07 | cjh | awesome, so you have ssh access to bugs.koha-community.org? |
| 09:07 | wizzyrea | I'm trying now -I feel like I should/do |
| 09:08 | cjh | no biggy if you don't, it can always wait until morning :) |
| 09:11 | wizzyrea | grr... trying one more thing |
| 09:11 | I know I had access to this at one point | |
| 09:12 | cjh | ok |
| 09:13 | wizzyrea | humbug. sorry >.< |
| 09:13 | cjh | thank you for trying :) |
| 09:13 | wizzyrea | I will get that sorted tomorrow though |
| 09:14 | cjh | I am emailing rangi now :) |
| 09:14 | wizzyrea | I'd enclose your relevant keys |
| 09:14 | in the email ^.^ | |
| 09:14 | cjh | http://segfault.net.nz/~chris/ |
| 09:14 | :) | |
| 09:14 | packages and my pub keys :) | |
| 09:14 | wizzyrea | ooo fancy fancy |
| 09:15 | cjh | having a webserver allows for black magic :) |
| 09:15 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 09:16 | cjh | thanks for your time anyways :) |
| 09:16 | kf | wizzyrea++ :) |
| 09:16 | wizzyrea | psh it's nothing for friends |
| 09:16 | cjh | I don't have net at home atm so won't be online until tomorrow morning (when I get to work) |
| 09:17 | wizzyrea | righty o |
| 09:17 | kf | eek - no internet makes me grumpy |
| 09:17 | cjh | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]deploy-aaaand-win |
| 09:17 | kf: we moved houses and had the net working (despite my isp saying it wasnt installed yet), then an hour or 2 after the last quake the phoneline went down... | |
| 09:17 | wizzyrea | hahaha |
| 09:17 | kf | cool |
| 09:17 | cjh | isp says it is still working... *sigh* |
| 09:17 | kf | the link :) |
| 09:17 | wizzyrea | oh crap! |
| 09:18 | so you have to get the landlord/manager in to look at it? | |
| 09:18 | cjh | so they have called a tech to wander round over the next few days, it is killing me |
| 09:18 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 09:18 | terrible. | |
| 09:18 | cjh | I think it is a fault on their end, the phone number they assigned to us also wasnt working |
| 09:18 | if I called the number it would ring forever but our phone wouldnt ring, and if that number called me it would come up as 'anonymous number' | |
| 09:18 | * wizzyrea | got her backup SIM card today |
| 09:19 | cjh | \o/ |
| 09:19 | wizzyrea: welcome to wellington xD | |
| 09:19 | wizzyrea | so now I have a vodaphone and a telecom ;) |
| 09:19 | cjh | wizzyrea and trea can now be called real wellingtonians now :) |
| 09:19 | wizzyrea | as I understand it, we've been present for about the absolute worst wellington has to offer now |
| 09:20 | winter southerly storms, and earthquakes (though no, not "the big one") | |
| 09:20 | cjh | requirements: a) freak out over large quake, b) eat a mince pie |
| 09:20 | kf | :) |
| 09:20 | wizzyrea | but at least as bad as anything in a generation |
| 09:20 | done and ... done | |
| 09:20 | * kf | wants to come back to wellington some time too for a visit |
| 09:20 | cjh | I had a german friend over a few years back, he had lived in new zealand for a few years at the time, for dinner we served him a mince pie, he had no idea what to do with it. |
| 09:21 | wizzyrea | you eat it. duh. |
| 09:21 | :) | |
| 09:21 | cjh | he found it strange and he wasn't a fan, rest assured he has now mastered the meat pie :) |
| 09:22 | wizzyrea | this used to be me at NEKLS: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ng-with-an-outage |
| 09:22 | cjh | assimilate. |
| 09:22 | hahhah | |
| 09:22 | wizzyrea | because if something went down |
| 09:22 | 40 libraries called AT THE SAME TIME. | |
| 09:22 | cjh | T.T |
| 09:22 | wizzyrea | and the receptionist would put them all through. |
| 09:22 | one after another. | |
| 09:23 | "yes, it's down. No I don't know when. I'm talking to you instead of fixing it." | |
| 09:23 | cjh | wizzyrea: you need https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtXtIivRRKQ |
| 09:23 | kf: you can come over and try our mince and cheese pies :) | |
| 09:23 | wizzyrea | hahaha yea, I thought about that. |
| 09:24 | kf | :) |
| 09:24 | wizzyrea | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ood-lets-try-that |
| 09:24 | kf | i had maccaroni with cheese microwave thing when i got sick last time... i suvived that so i am not afraid of pies |
| 09:25 | wizzyrea | paying licensing for a proprietary ILS is <reply> http://media.tumblr.com/697565[…]bepowL1qz4rgp.gif |
| 09:25 | cjh | wizzyrea: the 'sounds good lets try' is also called 'refactoring acquisitons' |
| 09:26 | kf: heh brave! | |
| 09:26 | wizzyrea: you didnt say it at wizzyrea | |
| 09:26 | wahanui: & | |
| 09:26 | wahanui | cjh: what? |
| 09:26 | wizzyrea | refactoring acquisitions is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ood-lets-try-that |
| 09:26 | cjh | wahanui: acquistions is <reply>http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ood-lets-try-that |
| 09:26 | wahanui | OK, cjh. |
| 09:27 | wizzyrea | refactoring acquisitions? |
| 09:27 | wahanui | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ood-lets-try-that |
| 09:27 | wizzyrea | we should rewrite Koha in PHP is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ood-lets-try-that |
| 09:27 | cjh | heh |
| 09:27 | * wizzyrea | laughs a lot |
| 09:28 | kf | cjh: i felt realyl bad |
| 09:28 | bbl | |
| 09:30 | wizzyrea | i really want to add one for every language that's ever been suggested. |
| 09:30 | cjh | home time, good bye internet |
| 09:30 | wizzyrea: also add it for python | |
| 09:30 | wizzyrea | i am seriously laughing my posterior off. |
| 09:30 | just thinking about it | |
| 09:31 | we should rewrite Koha in Python is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]ood-lets-try-that | |
| 09:32 | now I want to start a Koha Dev tumblr. | |
| 09:32 | because I need something else to look after. | |
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| 10:00 | wizzyrea | kohadevreactions.tumblr.com >.> |
| 10:31 | kf | back |
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| 10:57 | wizzyrea | wb |
| 10:59 | kf | wizzyrea++ |
| 11:06 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
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| 11:55 | kf | jcamins++ |
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| 12:09 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:24 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:25 | * oleonard | is wearing a new scent today, known as "Spilled Coffee on Myself." |
| 12:25 | kf | heh |
| 12:25 | that sounds lovely | |
| 12:26 | wizzyrea | better than "baby spit up" |
| 12:27 | oleonard | True. I'm so well-trained to avoid baby spit up that I still don't get dressed in my work clothes until I'm about to leave. And it's been years since my kids were babies. |
| 12:28 | jcamins | Since I know you're also desperate for royal gossip, I present to you a friend's suggestion for what I should bake next: http://www.kingarthurflour.com[…]whats-the-secret/ |
| 12:30 | Unfortunately, it requires baking the cookies. | |
| 12:35 | wizzyrea | naw, go get some from the store! |
| 12:35 | lorna doone's | |
| 12:35 | we have some coconut biscuits here that would be amazing in something like that | |
| 12:35 | jcamins | wizzyrea: isn't it extraordinarily late for you? |
| 12:36 | kf | jcamins: i already told her, she is not listening :) |
| 12:38 | wizzyrea | 12:30 :) I'm going soon |
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| 12:54 | tcohen | did the release announcement reach the forum? |
| 12:54 | jcamins | koha-gitify |
| 12:54 | koha-gitify? | |
| 12:54 | koha gitify? | |
| 12:54 | gitify? | |
| 12:54 | wahanui | it has been said that gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
| 12:56 | khall | can anyone explain why AutomaticItemReturn has *anything* to do with building the holds queue? I cannot for the life of me understand why, but it's even in the unit test! |
| 12:57 | jcamins | khall: poor specification? |
| 12:57 | That's the only explanation I can come up with. | |
| 12:57 | khall | jcamins, I couldn't agree more. You can see my ranting on bug 10628 |
| 12:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10628 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , AutomaticItemReturn prevents holds queue from filling local holds with local items |
| 12:58 | khall | my fix causes HoldsQueue.t to fail in such a schizophrenic way it's melting my brain. |
| 13:00 | * jcamins | sets up LXC+koha-gitify for maximum awesomeness. |
| 13:00 | oleonard | jcamins: The purpose of koha-gitify is to allow the ease of installation of a package but give you git control? |
| 13:00 | jcamins | oleonard: right. |
| 13:00 | oleonard: well, plus it allows you to not worry about cron jobs, etc. | |
| 13:00 | * khall | wants this |
| 13:00 | oleonard | What is LXC? |
| 13:00 | wahanui | LXC is really cool. |
| 13:00 | oleonard | wahanui: :P |
| 13:00 | wahanui | well, P is part I know |
| 13:02 | jcamins | oleonard: it allows me to run a complete Ubuntu installation in a container on my existing server. |
| 13:02 | It's like chroot on steroids. | |
| 13:03 | Woohoo! Blazing fast transfer speeds! | |
| 13:04 | Of course, even faster would've been just using cp instead of git clone. | |
| 13:09 | kf | bug 5202 |
| 13:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records |
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| 13:32 | kf | thx khall :) |
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| 14:07 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:07 | huginn` | gmcharlt: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009) |
| 14:09 | gmcharlt | hmm, that postdates adding MARC support ;) |
| 14:10 | kf | hi gmcharlt :) |
| 14:19 | druthb | @quote random |
| 14:19 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #161: "* wizzyrea prefers pricks" (added by kf at 02:18 PM, October 18, 2011) |
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| 14:24 | kf | rangi made me do it. |
| 14:25 | jcamins | Apache-- |
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| 14:27 | druthb | @excuse |
| 14:27 | huginn` | druthb: My excuse for today is "Slashdot" |
| 14:27 | druthb | oooh. |
| 14:28 | kf | @excuse |
| 14:28 | huginn` | kf: My excuse for today is "Slashdot" |
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| 15:01 | oleonard | It would be nice to have documentation on what preferences are supposed to appear under "Local use" and why |
| 15:06 | kf | oleonard: i think a lot are not right there |
| 15:06 | basically everything that shows up in a normal tab too hm. | |
| 15:07 | printcirculationslips looks a bit dubious | |
| 15:07 | the rest seems right.. htere used to be a lot more | |
| 15:08 | drojf | oleonard++ |
| 15:08 | oleonard | circulation.pref has a comment: "# FIXME: printcirculationslips is also omitted. It _technically_ could work, but C4::Print is HLT specific and needs a little bit of refactoring." |
| 15:11 | kf | ah |
| 15:11 | then that looks about right | |
| 15:11 | hm | |
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| 15:36 | oleonard | In what way does Bug 10610 help? |
| 15:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , sysprefs.sql is really boring to rebase |
| 15:37 | * oleonard | hasn't tested, just trying to understand the change |
| 15:42 | kf | oleonard: i think because it won't put them in the end |
| 15:42 | so the lines are less likely to be close together | |
| 15:42 | so less merge conflicts | |
| 15:42 | at least i think that's the idea | |
| 15:42 | hmm | |
| 15:42 | shouldn't we delete entries in alerts when the borrower is deleted? | |
| 15:43 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:44 | gmcharlt | oleonard: the idea is that if the sysprefs are sorted in order by the code, a patch that adds a new one (in its proper place, alphabetically), is less likely to create a merge confilct |
| 15:45 | consider two patches from two different contributors, one that adds syspref EEE and one that adds syspref MMM | |
| 15:45 | kf | :) |
| 15:45 | gmcharlt | if they both, as is current practices, add the new one to the end of the file |
| 15:45 | at some point a merge conflict is likely | |
| 15:45 | whereas if the file is sorted, and EEE and MMM are added in their respective places, a merge conflict is much less likely to occur | |
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| 15:45 | oleonard | I see. That's why simple CSS changes conflict so often. |
| 15:46 | gmcharlt | admittedly, such a merge conflict is about the easiest one possible to resolve, but I see his point about take a step to make it less likely to occur in the first place |
| 15:47 | (I do wish that the patch came with whatever script was used to generate the sorted version, as it would be easier to confirm that no unexpected changes crept it) | |
| 15:47 | *crept in | |
| 15:48 | kf | ok, looking at alert... if someone has a mment: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71eebf949a3#l2682 |
| 15:48 | shouldn't that have a FK constraint on the borrowernumber and a cascade that it gets deleted when the borrower is deleted? | |
| 15:48 | gmcharlt | kf: yes |
| 15:49 | kf | hm wondering... we delete all that, but that will make it impossible to do an 'undelete' bringing borrowers back from deletedborrowers |
| 15:49 | we already delete a lot - that would make it more consistent, but I coudl imagine that might be the eaosn it was not done in the first place? | |
| 15:50 | i am working on a 'concept for deletion of personal data' so that's where those questions come from :) | |
| 15:50 | gmcharlt | I'd rather have the FKs |
| 15:50 | kf | i will file a bug |
| 15:51 | and note it for manual deletion for now... *meh* :) | |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | and if there's a desire for a more complete patron undelete, add new tables as needed |
| 15:51 | e.g., deleted_borrower_alerts, etc. | |
| 15:52 | kf | gmcharlt: makes sense :) |
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| 15:53 | kf | bug 10631 |
| 15:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Table alert should have a FK on borrowernumber and entries be deleted with the referenced borrower |
| 15:53 | kf | hope it makes sense |
| 16:08 | gmcharlt: ugh - you could have corrected all my typos at least :) | |
| 16:08 | gmcharlt | kf: sadly, my computer lacks the copy-and-fix-typos-and-paste feature ;) |
| 16:08 | oleonard | Is it incorrect to have a 245a with a trailing colon in cases where there is a subtitle? |
| 16:09 | kf | hm I thought that was the way to do it |
| 16:09 | and a / if there is none but you have an author? | |
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| 16:11 | oleonard | That's what I thought, but then Bug 10505 |
| 16:11 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10505 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Add a separator between title and subtitle for OPAC without XSLT |
| 16:11 | oleonard | If you apply Bug 10505 then you get double colons :: |
| 16:11 | kf | oleonard: UNIMARC |
| 16:12 | well that and German MARC21 | |
| 16:13 | oleonard | opac-detail.pl doesn't know whether it's UNIMARC or not |
| 16:14 | kf | ah |
| 16:15 | hm guess i will need another bug report for suggestions | |
| 16:16 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71eebf949a3#l2077 | |
| 16:18 | khall | hey oleonard: the opac has everything to implement datatables, but it doesn't look like it's ever been done. Is that correct? I just submitted a patch for bug 10632 and my datatables look a bit funky ( no sorting arrows, etc ) |
| 16:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC |
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| 16:19 | alexander | hey friends |
| 16:19 | oleonard | khall: Table sorting in the OPAC hasn't been globally converted to DataTables |
| 16:20 | khall | is this as good a place to start as any? |
| 16:21 | alexander | I ran into this problem: i did koha-remove, after that koha-create, and did all the settings from scratch, but old records still persist, but they give out "the record you requested does not exist" |
| 16:21 | oleonard | khall: Yes |
| 16:21 | alexander | biblioitems, biblio, items are empty |
| 16:22 | anybody? | |
| 16:22 | wahanui | The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
| 16:24 | kf | alexander: your indexes are not curent - try reindexing |
| 16:24 | there is a command to run a full zebra reindex for the packages | |
| 16:25 | alexander | i did koha-rebuild-zebra -f |
| 16:25 | does this do the reindexing? | |
| 16:26 | kf | hm i think it does |
| 16:27 | maybe you have to enter a new record to make sure it resets - but that's just a guess | |
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| 16:28 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 16:28 | MARCXML files for bulkmarcimport which structure should have? | |
| 16:29 | I've tried to migrate one XML file in 3.2 and it worked, the same file in 3.12 gives 0 recores | |
| 16:29 | *records | |
| 16:30 | oleonard | So khall are you going to do more with Bug 10632 to get the DataTables working correctly? |
| 16:30 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC |
| 16:34 | alexander | kf, thanks a lot |
| 16:34 | adding a field and reindexing worked | |
| 16:36 | vfernandes | anyone could tell me the xml structure to import in 3.12 |
| 16:36 | kf | vfernandes: it should be valid marcxml |
| 16:37 | vfernandes | I know... but in a older version the file is imported, in 3.12 not |
| 16:38 | kf | it's hard to tell without knowing how your file looks like and if you are setting the correct parameters |
| 16:38 | did you tell the script it's XML? | |
| 16:38 | is the XML valid? | |
| 16:39 | vfernandes | yes... |
| 16:39 | <collection><record>...</record></collection> | |
| 16:40 | gmcharlt | vfernandes: how big is the file? can you put it up somewhere so that I can download it? |
| 16:40 | vfernandes | I found the problem |
| 16:40 | :D | |
| 16:41 | I wasn't closing one tag... but in 3.2 was working without closing :D | |
| 16:42 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: So you're putting off adding the feature you discussed, where non-well-formed XML causes the user's mother to call them and tell them that they're _very_ disappointed in them? |
| 16:43 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 16:43 | kf | got late again :) bye all! |
| 16:46 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:19 | tcohen | @seen eythian |
| 17:19 | huginn` | tcohen: eythian was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 1 minute, and 53 seconds ago: <eythian> just in the js |
| 17:20 | tcohen | @later tell eythian i've tagged and released v3.12.2, you can roll the debs whenever you want |
| 17:20 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:40 | jcamins | That's what I'm talking about! |
| 17:41 | I should perhaps -- at some point -- figure out why the EUID of the package users does not seem to be the one set with AssignUser. | |
| 17:42 | * cait | waves |
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| 17:45 | cait | hi drojf |
| 17:46 | drojf | hi cait |
| 17:46 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 17:46 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 27.4°C (7:43 PM CEST on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:47 | drojf | it will get even warmer the next days. isn't it great? |
| 17:48 | jcamins | I have updated the signoff script. |
| 17:48 | It now works with packages under LXC. | |
| 17:49 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 17:49 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.3°C (7:45 PM CEST on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:49 | cait | i melted several times today |
| 17:49 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 17:49 | huginn` | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 30.0°C (1:44 PM EDT on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... |
| 17:49 | jcamins | And I was just thinking how nice and cool it was, too. |
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| 17:57 | tcohen | EUID? |
| 17:57 | what's that EUID jcamins? | |
| 17:57 | jcamins | tcohen: effective UID. |
| 17:57 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 17:57 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 33.9°C (12:57 PM CDT on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:58 | jcamins | git bz thinks it's running as the normal Apache user not the user that's configured. |
| 17:59 | tcohen | i guess is related to some sort of testing infrastructure you''ve set? |
| 17:59 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 17:59 | tcohen | i'm sorry, arrived late to the conversation |
| 17:59 | jcamins | No you didn't. That was the entire conversation. :P |
| 17:59 | tcohen | oh, i missed the part you taliked to yourself |
| 18:02 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 18:02 | My script in contribs now _really_ works with packages under LXC. | |
| 18:03 | And it's better because it doesn't require git-bz. | |
| 18:05 | tcohen: how many instances do you run on a single server? | |
| 18:05 | tcohen | 38 |
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| 18:06 | tcohen | why jcamins? |
| 18:06 | jcamins | tcohen: oh, I was contemplating running several hundred small, low-use instances. |
| 18:07 | tcohen | it is do-able of coures |
| 18:07 | course | |
| 18:07 | ours are busy at some hours | |
| 18:07 | but server is idle most of the day | |
| 18:08 | jcamins | Yeah, but it would require some special configuration to deal with the Apache processes, I think. |
| 18:08 | tcohen | running on PSGI mode? |
| 18:08 | jcamins | Either PSGI or plain CGI. |
| 18:09 | tcohen | apache will launch as many processes as it is configured to |
| 18:09 | i haven't played with the itk mpm we use | |
| 18:09 | jcamins | Right, but it isn't it configured _per instance_? |
| 18:09 | tcohen | we run a single apache server |
| 18:10 | i even trued with running a single zebra server for all of them (too much tweak) | |
| 18:10 | jcamins | But how many processes does it have running? |
| 18:12 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.22.66.76 pasted "<IfModule mpm_worker_module> S" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/134 |
| 18:12 | jcamins | Hm. Actually, I just checked one of my servers with 8 instances, and it has only 10 Apache processes so I must not have understood how itk works. |
| 18:12 | tcohen | it depends on the MPM you're using |
| 18:12 | usually, it has X spare processes and launches new ones as it needs (until a MAX) | |
| 18:13 | (prefork mode) | |
| 18:13 | the worker module is the same, with several threads per fork | |
| 18:14 | and the event module is similar, but is non-blocking (like lighttpd or nginx) and thus can serve more clients per process | |
| 18:14 | the problem with the event module is that is not considered stable on 2.2 (it is on 2.4) | |
| 18:17 | by event module I mean mpm-itk | |
| 18:20 | oleonard | Funny... Two years ago we added the DataTables plugin to the OPAC. The end. |
| 18:20 | Never used. | |
| 18:22 | jcamins | oleonard: what did we add it for? |
| 18:22 | oleonard | Good feelings? |
| 18:22 | For later? | |
| 18:22 | Just in case? | |
| 18:23 | The sad part is I had a nice big patch for the OPAC to add DataTables implementation in place of tablesorter.js and it has gone missing | |
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| 18:24 | cait | oleonard: :( |
| 18:35 | tcohen | bye jcamins |
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| 19:27 | cait | thunderstorm! |
| 19:27 | yay! | |
| 19:31 | rambutan1 | Our prospective thunderstorm fizzled out. |
| 19:34 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 19:34 | huginn` | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 10.0°C (4:00 PM ART on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:39 | rambutan1 | @wunder hta man thi, burma |
| 19:39 | huginn` | rambutan1: The current temperature in Chita, Russia is 10.0°C (5:00 AM YAKT on July 24, 2013). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:40 | rambutan1 | close, awfully close |
| 19:41 | pianohacker | rambutan1: ... are you in missouri or burma or russia? |
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| 20:11 | gmcharlt | tcohen++ |
| 20:12 | tcohen | :) |
| 20:12 | jcamins | tcohen++ |
| 20:16 | drojf | tcohen++ |
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| 20:19 | tcohen | thanks #koha |
| 20:19 | rambutan1 | pianohacker: my thoughts are always in Thailand |
| 20:20 | pianohacker | okay then :) |
| 20:24 | drojf | maybe we should drop unimarc support if people using it don't care about testing each other's patches :P |
| 20:24 | druthb | drojf! |
| 20:24 | drojf | druthb! |
| 20:24 | :) | |
| 20:24 | druthb | :P |
| 20:24 | cait | druthb! |
| 20:24 | drojf! | |
| 20:24 | drojf | cait! |
| 20:24 | druthb | cait! |
| 20:25 | drojf | lol |
| 20:25 | gmcharlt | everybody! |
| 20:25 | wahanui | everybody is so enthusiastic today :) |
| 20:25 | drojf | gmcharlt! |
| 20:25 | wahanui | gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
| 20:25 | druthb | gmcharlt! |
| 20:25 | wahanui | gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
| 20:26 | cait | wahanui botsnack drojf :P |
| 20:26 | wahanui | :) |
| 20:26 | druthb | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 20:26 | wahanui | thanks druthb :) |
| 20:26 | tcohen | where should I put xsltMaxDepth to set it to a higher value? |
| 20:26 | * druthb | likes drojf! don't feed him to the bot! |
| 20:26 | drojf | no, don't feed me to the bot! |
| 20:26 | cait | i doubt the bot would ike him - no gluten |
| 20:27 | no fun | |
| 20:27 | drojf: see now we got druthb to admit she likes you - and that even tho she doesn't throw skittles at you :) | |
| 20:29 | * druthb | chucks skittles at drojf |
| 20:29 | druthb | say again? |
| 20:29 | cait | heh |
| 20:32 | wahanui botsnack skittles | |
| 20:32 | wahanui | thanks cait :) |
| 20:33 | cjh | rangi++ |
| 20:36 | tcohen | if you are debugging errors like "You can adjust xsltMaxDepth (--maxdepth) in order to raise the maximum number of nested template calls and variables/params (currently set to 250)" on your Koha, you can set that variable |
| 20:36 | jcamins | tcohen: when would you enounter an error like that? |
| 20:37 | tcohen | editing C4/XSLT.pm, and adding something like $xslt->max_depth(1000); below the "my $xslt = XML::LibXSLT->new();" call |
| 20:37 | it was just for the google record heh | |
| 20:37 | a library had a record with too many trailing spaces fro 300$c | |
| 20:38 | (don't ask me how, maybe some migration related problem) | |
| 20:38 | jcamins | Ah, and we used tail recursion to remove trailing spaces? |
| 20:39 | tcohen | probably |
| 20:42 | indeed | |
| 20:44 | has anyone tried eclipse-mylyn with the koha project? | |
| 20:46 | jcamins | tcohen: I have not, but what benefit does frequent crashing provide to the development process? :P |
| 20:48 | tcohen | i use vim for most of my tasks, but I love EPIC (the perl IDE on top of eclipse) and mylyn seems to fit perfectly for integration with our bugzilla |
| 20:48 | it is aimed for QA people mostly | |
| 20:50 | onthe other hand, it is java, with all its disadvantages | |
| 20:56 | jcamins | tcohen: also, it's Eclipse, and we all know _its_ disadvantages. :P |
| 21:07 | pianohacker | cait: Random question. How do you pronounce knuffe? |
| 21:07 | jcamins | pianohacker: /knuffe/ of course. :P |
| 21:07 | :) | |
| 21:08 | pianohacker | jcamins: D'oh, of course |
| 21:08 | silly me | |
| 21:09 | cait: Sorry to use you as a dictionary, but wanted to make sure I got it right | |
| 21:09 | cait | hm? |
| 21:09 | who do you want to knuff? | |
| 21:14 | Dyrcona | pianohacker: http://www.easytrans.org/en/?q=knuffe#.Ue7x9d9jGIg |
| 21:16 | drojf | i have a fun question about Letters.pm. |
| 21:16 | cait | Dyrcona: the recorded pronounciation is not really good |
| 21:16 | drojf | i got two ways of getting the 'from' email address for subscription alerts. |
| 21:16 | cait | ah no german |
| 21:17 | drojf | 1) my $branchdetails = GetBranchDetail($_->{'branchcode'}; # get branchcode via getalerts from alerts table (which joins it from borrowers table) |
| 21:17 | 2) my $branchdetails = GetBranchDetail($borinfo->{'branchcode'}; # get branchcode from borrowers table | |
| 21:17 | Dyrcona | cait: I think the recorded pronunciation is for Norwegian. |
| 21:17 | drojf | while the second seems like the more direct way to do it, i think i prefer the first one in case that the handling of branch codes in getalerts might change in the future (like, not the home branch of the user being subscribed but maybe the homebranch of the serial). does that make sense or is it just complicating things? |
| 21:17 | cait | that would make sense :) |
| 21:18 | drojf: i think it's too late for me to follow you | |
| 21:20 | sorry | |
| 21:22 | drojf | i'll take option 1 |
| 21:23 | it may not even work, i haven't tried any of those yet. so i might just use any that works ;) | |
| 21:34 | why is that the branchcode of the patron and not that of the serial anyway in getalerts? | |
| 21:34 | * drojf | has no idea how serials work |
| 21:39 | pianohacker | drojf: nobody does |
| 21:39 | some people are just better at pretending | |
| 21:39 | drojf | lol |
| 21:43 | cait | drojf: i think i'd find the branchcode of the subscription a little more logical |
| 21:43 | because that's where hte issue is the patron is informed about | |
| 21:43 | drojf | it does not say anything about the whereabouts of the issue in the email |
| 21:43 | BUT i repaired the email | |
| 21:43 | ;) | |
| 21:43 | cait | well you CAN edit the notice template i guess |
| 21:44 | but then again... the question might be where it pull the information from | |
| 21:44 | if you can use branches... which branch will be used | |
| 21:44 | drojf | it doesn't |
| 21:45 | hm ok i think my subscription is actually in my home branch. but i bet that there won't be any info if they differ | |
| 21:45 | let's see | |
| 21:47 | i can't even find it. that might be the trick ;) | |
| 21:57 | cait | drojf: hm you can actually create subscriptions without a branch i guess |
| 21:57 | so there is a problem with that | |
| 21:58 | you shouldn't but i think you can | |
| 21:58 | maybe would have to be - subscription branch - patron home library branch fallback? too late really to figure out | |
| 21:58 | go to bed | |
| 21:58 | night all :) | |
| 21:58 | cait left #koha | |
| 22:04 | tcohen | jcamins, eclipse importing the koha source from git is so sloooooooooooooow |
| 22:05 | jcamins | tcohen: don't worry. |
| 22:05 | It'll crash momentarily. | |
| 22:05 | That's always fast. | |
| 22:05 | * tcohen | thinks that having 8GB RAM on his laptop can make this a nightmare |
| 22:06 | jcamins | tcohen: why? It'll never fill up all the RAM. It'll crash long before it loads that much from the hard drive. |
| 22:06 | * tcohen | feels relief, thanks jcamins |
| 22:07 | jcamins | :) |
| 22:16 | drojf | i like how 'Please pick it up at your convenience.' became 'pick it up as fast as possible' in the german translation. |
| 22:17 | jcamins | drojf: that sounds right. :P |
| 22:17 | drojf | ;) |
| 22:24 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 22:25 | * gmcharlt | just had a lightbulb moment -- hold shelves where the library starts charging rent after the third day |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 22:25 | @quote get 123 | |
| 22:25 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 22:25 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 22:26 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: touch project (re the XKCD link) -- here we need worry only about murdering kittens! |
| 22:26 | *tough | |
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| 22:56 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 23:02 | cjh | hmmm I wrote the 3.8.15 release email, hope that sent... |
| 23:02 | jcamins | cjh: I think I saw it. |
| 23:02 | cjh | that is promising :) |
| 23:03 | jcamins | No, I saw the tag. |
| 23:03 | Sorry. | |
| 23:03 | cjh | heh |
| 23:03 | I will give it an hour and I can always write it again | |
| 23:06 | rambutan joined #koha | |
| 23:10 | cjh | drats, it isn't in my sent email, somehow managed to cancel that... |
| 23:21 | aquaman joined #koha | |
| 23:21 | tcohen | cjh, large messages get moderated |
| 23:22 | i received an email alerting me that | |
| 23:22 | cjh | ahh ty, but my message isn't in my sent box which isn't a good sign. |
| 23:22 | tcohen | heh, oops |
| 23:22 | cjh | yeah... |
| 23:23 | going to wait a bit and hope, but I can always rewrite it tonight :) | |
| 23:29 | gmcharlt | hmm, git.k-c.org is responding to ping but is otherwise not responsive |
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| 23:30 | jcamins | gmcharlt: bag is probably still around. |
| 23:34 | gmcharlt | jcamins: pokage has occurred |
| 23:35 | jcamins | gmcharlt: by the way, you probably noticed, but I never got very far on moving old feature branches to the archive git repo. |
| 23:36 | Please feel free to move any branches you would like. | |
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| 23:40 | tcohen | hmm, basil got frozen last night |
| 23:40 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9755: (follow-up) tweak test for tag visibility in merge hash <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]efa3f849ba93806d7> / Bug 9755 QA follow-up: fix template compliance <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]06dd75f0bd345c1ef> / Bug 9755 QA follow-up: move MARC-specific functionality to utility class <http://git.koha-commu |
| 23:40 | jcamins | tcohen: I hate that. |
| 23:41 | tcohen | yeah, de-hidrated basil will never match the flavour |
| 23:44 | dcook | tcohen: :( |
| 23:44 | Our basil died recently :/ | |
| 23:44 | Potatos are growing strong though :D | |
| 23:48 | tcohen | :D |
| 23:48 | jcamins | Did anyone other than rangi contribute any code to Koha 1.0? |
| 23:49 | dcook | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1a2VN_pec |
| 23:49 | Maybe? | |
| 23:49 | wahanui | i heard Maybe was a momentaneous error |
| 23:51 | rangi | yes |
| 23:51 | jcamins | rangi: okay, thanks. |
| 23:52 | rangi | 198 commits from olwen williams |
| 23:58 | dcook | Hmm, looks like the Koha history hasn't been updated in a while: http://koha-community.org/about/history/ |
| 23:59 | jcamins | So it does. |
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