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| 03:18 | rambutan | hi oak |
| 03:19 | Oak | hello rambutan :) |
| 03:19 | kia ora #koha | |
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| 05:55 | BobB | Is this #koha's quietest Monday ever in the eastern timezone? We hope all you Kiwi's are safe. |
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| 06:17 | cait | hi #koha :) |
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| 06:39 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:05 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:05 | wahanui | hey, gaetan_B |
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| 07:15 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 07:47 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 07:51 | matts | hello ! |
| 07:57 | kf | morning drojf and matts :) |
| 07:57 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 07:57 | kf | drojf: fixing 3.10 po files right now |
| 07:57 | * kf | waves back at wizzyrea :) |
| 07:58 | drojf | hi matts, kf, wizzyrea |
| 07:59 | kf: what happened? someone uploaded wrong files? | |
| 07:59 | kf | drojf: yep |
| 07:59 | i am not sure which option he selected - lots of suggestions | |
| 08:00 | but i thought as we haven't done much since last 3.10.x we jump back there | |
| 08:00 | drojf | why can somebody just go and upload files there? |
| 08:00 | kf | i have no idea actually :( |
| 08:00 | the permission system seems borked somehow | |
| 08:00 | i will write bernardo later | |
| 08:01 | it should be prevented by permissions, but they don't show right for me in pootle right now | |
| 08:01 | I know that the file with permissions has been giving trouble before i | |
| 08:02 | drojf | :( |
| 08:02 | kf | not sure... I will ask bgkriegel to take a look |
| 08:02 | drojf | an automatic backup when a file is re-uploaded would be nice too |
| 08:02 | kf | probably too early to speculate |
| 08:04 | drojf | probably? you are speculating about the speculation? |
| 08:04 | kf | hehe |
| 08:04 | just saying i don#t really know and am a bit puzzled too :) | |
| 08:04 | and it's still early morning! | |
| 08:09 | hm | |
| 08:09 | uploaded new files | |
| 08:09 | but the suggestions are still there | |
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| 08:45 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 08:45 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Alter Schlachthof, Berlin, Germany is 27.1°C (10:45 AM CEST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:48 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 08:48 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:48 | wizzyrea | not bad really |
| 08:49 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:49 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 24.8°C (10:45 AM CEST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:49 | drojf | i win :( |
| 09:03 | mtj | hmm, just got back from a weekend in the south island |
| 09:04 | kf | nice :) |
| 09:04 | well, hope it was | |
| 09:04 | mtj | afaict, nothing looks too broken at my place |
| 09:05 | yeah, was great :) | |
| 09:05 | but, very nice to be home too | |
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| 09:25 | wizzyrea | hi eythian |
| 09:25 | eythian | hi |
| 09:29 | wizzyrea | http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/re[…]n/wellington/felt exciting day. though we didnt feel these so strongly tho |
| 09:30 | tomorrow may be an adventure. | |
| 09:30 | eythian | looks bumpy |
| 09:31 | wizzyrea | it's wobbly |
| 09:31 | the big one was bumpy, these little ones are wobbly | |
| 09:31 | eythian | ah right |
| 09:31 | kf | wizzyrea: getting usedto it yet? :) |
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| 09:34 | kf | wizzyrea: very glad we don't have earthquakes here |
| 09:34 | eythian | your buildings would all collapse |
| 09:34 | they terrify me | |
| 09:34 | kf | probably. |
| 09:34 | eythian | (the buildings, that is) |
| 09:34 | kf | still? |
| 09:35 | not sure how bad it would be, guess more modern buildings probably better than older ones | |
| 09:35 | eythian | whenever I have cause to think about the fact I'm surrounded by tall, brittle stone buildings held together by little more than the assumption acceleration is always downwards, yes :) |
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| 09:35 | eythian | kf: you do have a lot of old buildings :) |
| 09:35 | kf | yes... yes we do |
| 09:40 | drojf | kf: there was an earthquake at bodensee i think |
| 09:41 | st. gallen, 3.6 | |
| 09:42 | eythian | http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]-smashed-in-quake <-- a 3.6 wouldn't do this |
| 09:43 | drojf | nah, 3.6 only smashes cheap wine or beer |
| 09:44 | eythian | snobby earthquakes |
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| 10:00 | eythian | wizzyrea: did you get a chance to make sure that all my stuff hadn't fallen off the floor? |
| 10:01 | kf | fallen off the floor? |
| 10:01 | eythian | well it's where most of it was, who knows what's happened since then? |
| 10:02 | kf | will the old buildings keep you from visitingß |
| 10:03 | ? | |
| 10:03 | eythian | England is just as bad really |
| 10:10 | @wunder bn1 1nb | |
| 10:10 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 26.1°C (11:00 AM BST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:11 | kf | hm ok |
| 10:11 | someone a hint for me? I had this nice git bash thing on my old vm where it shows you the branch you are on, if it's clean or not etc. | |
| 10:12 | I'd like to have it back, but my googling skills fail me | |
| 10:13 | eythian | https://www.google.co.uk/searc[…]T0QXdoICIDg&gbv=2 |
| 10:13 | kf | yeah i find lots... but not the one i had. very annoying |
| 10:13 | most show just the branch | |
| 10:13 | but the nice thing was tht it also showed when you had uncommitted changes etc. | |
| 10:14 | eythian | http://mediadoneright.com/cont[…]t-ps1-bash-prompt <-- this one does |
| 10:15 | kf | thx :) i will keep looking |
| 10:18 | bibliwho | google sth like this? git bash clean "branch state" |
| 10:19 | eythian | the one I pointed to does that too. |
| 10:19 | kf | eythian: still hoping to find the one i used before kind of |
| 10:19 | eythian | No one can help you there, as we don't know what you had :) |
| 10:19 | kf | i know :) |
| 10:21 | but thank you for giving me some input :) | |
| 10:22 | eythian | you could probably modify the one above to do exactly what you wanted, and learn bash at the same time :) |
| 10:22 | kf | the problem is probably that i did modify the hting last time... |
| 10:23 | ok | |
| 10:24 | apart fromt he fact the yellow on white is a terrible combination that one seems to be working fine | |
| 10:24 | eythian | who has a white terminal anyway? |
| 10:24 | what kind of weirdo are you? | |
| 10:25 | kf | it came by default |
| 10:25 | where can i switch that? | |
| 10:25 | eythian | what are you using? |
| 10:25 | Ubuntu tends to do a dark purple thing by default | |
| 10:26 | kf | debian |
| 10:26 | eythian | oh OK |
| 10:26 | you change it in the options for your terminal I guess | |
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| 10:30 | kf | yeah, maybe not today :) |
| 10:31 | eythian | typically it's done by right-click, but I don't know what terminal you're running. |
| 10:31 | you're producing bad bug reports, kf ;) | |
| 10:32 | kf | i do? :( |
| 10:32 | which one? | |
| 10:32 | wahanui | which one is probably that? The fixed navbar? |
| 10:32 | eythian | about your prompt and your terminal and stuff |
| 10:32 | kf | ? |
| 10:33 | eythian | you're not providing enough information for people to answer your questions. |
| 10:33 | kf | i would give you the answer if I knew it :) |
| 10:33 | i think i will continue playing with this tomorrow | |
| 10:34 | eythian | you haven't even mentioned the software you're using, usually it's only the version that people have to ask for :) |
| 10:35 | kf | the software was not important for the git bash prompt thing :) |
| 10:35 | and i figured out the colors :) | |
| 10:37 | eythian++ for being impatient but helpful ;) | |
| 10:37 | eythian | heh |
| 10:40 | kf | lunch time |
| 10:40 | bye all :) | |
| 10:40 | well bbl :) | |
| 11:09 | magnuse | gah, where is kf when you need her? |
| 11:09 | ;-= | |
| 11:09 | bah | |
| 11:09 | ;-) | |
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| 11:18 | magnuse | have fun, #koha! see y'all in a week |
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| 11:50 | kf | magnus_away: ? |
| 11:51 | i was at lunch! | |
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| 12:04 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 12:04 | there is any bug related with koha 3.10 and javascript not working in other languages translated? | |
| 12:05 | check this - http://catalogo.biblioteca.cm-pontedelima.pt/ | |
| 12:05 | in English there javascript works fine (alert shown), in Portugues not.... | |
| 12:07 | any idea why? | |
| 12:07 | could be something bad translated? | |
| 12:08 | eythian | have you checked to see if there are javascript errors? |
| 12:09 | kf | vfernandes: It's a translation problem |
| 12:09 | use firebug and you will see it | |
| 12:09 | you are using "" in a translated string: | |
| 12:09 | ("Nota: apenas pode adicionar "tag" a um item com um dado termo uma vez... | |
| 12:09 | eythian | var MSG_ADD_TAG_FAILED_NOTE = _("Nota: apenas pode adicionar "tag" a um item com um dado termo uma vez. Aceda a 'As minhas Tags' para ver as "tags" existentes."); |
| 12:09 | kf | eythian: beat you ;) |
| 12:09 | eythian | only just :) |
| 12:09 | kf | heh |
| 12:14 | eythian | rule of thumb is that if JS isn't working on a translation, look for JS errors that have crept in. |
| 12:14 | kf | it's always a good rule :) firebug is really helpful for things like that |
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| 12:25 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 12:26 | kf | hi christophe_c |
| 12:26 | christophe_c | hello kf ;-) |
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| 12:31 | hasdf | in MARC Frameworks: do I really have to delete each tag / do I really need to import the default framework? |
| 12:32 | I really just need a framework with 10-20 fields | |
| 12:33 | rambutan | /part |
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| 12:34 | slef | hi - any koha list admins here? Or going to be here in 30mins? |
| 12:35 | tcohen__ | morning #koha |
| 12:36 | hasdf | let me rephrase my question: what is the fastest way to create a new MARC framework with just a few fields? |
| 12:36 | tcohen | use the fast cataloguing framework as your basis |
| 12:39 | hasdf | thanks |
| 12:43 | kf | hasdf: and don't delete tags/fields, but hide them |
| 12:43 | hasdf: it's a lot safer | |
| 12:44 | hasdf: also you can use the export to libre office and edit them in a spreadsheet | |
| 12:44 | tcohen | that's interesting kf, i'll test it too :-D |
| 12:44 | kf | tcohen: it's a bit tricky, but for some things it works fine |
| 12:44 | in my experience | |
| 12:46 | tcohen | good morning btw kf |
| 12:46 | kf | good morning tcohen :) |
| 12:47 | druthb | kf! |
| 12:48 | * druthb | wriggles happily |
| 12:48 | kf | druthb! |
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| 13:37 | banana | whoami |
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| 13:41 | vfernandes | sorry my net gone and I didn't saw if anyone asked my question |
| 13:42 | problem with 3.12 and javascript | |
| 13:42 | opacuserjs isn't being loaded in portuguese translation | |
| 13:42 | kf | logs? |
| 13:42 | wahanui | logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 13:43 | kf | vfernandes: we did - you can take a look at the logs from earlier |
| 13:47 | vfernandes | thanks kf and eythian :D |
| 13:51 | by the way what you think about the design? | |
| 13:57 | kf | vfernandes: sorry, I didn't take a closer look really |
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| 13:59 | kf | vfernandes: looks nice :) |
| 14:01 | vfernandes | it sure looks :P |
| 14:01 | it's possible to disable fast cataloguing? | |
| 14:03 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10592: fix display of favicon <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]076543781925caaca> / Bug 10592: fix MARC21 006/008 cataloging plugins <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d5dc03b84bf9194c> |
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| 14:22 | * tcohen | is getting anxious |
| 14:22 | tcohen | i want that pull request for the translation stuff to release! |
| 14:23 | kf | tcohen: need bgkriegel for that? |
| 14:23 | tcohen | yeap, he seems to be torturing some students on an exam |
| 14:23 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8911: make sure history.txt gets installed where history.txt can see it <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]660ed93203ecc02d8> |
| 14:26 | kf | tcohen: but gives you time to pick 8911 if you want to :) |
| 14:26 | tcohen | ;) |
| 14:27 | kf, have u done a clean packages install recently? | |
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| 14:27 | kf | not recently i have to confess |
| 14:27 | tcohen | is it true that there are SIP-related messages or it is just me? |
| 14:27 | kf | maybe drojf has |
| 14:27 | hm my coworker build packages from 3.12.1 + 4 patches or so from us | |
| 14:28 | but he is already gone, he didn't mention any problems | |
| 14:28 | tcohen | is not a problem, it doesnt fail |
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| 14:29 | tcohen | It just says "Starting SIP server for instance... " and does nothing |
| 14:29 | eythian | does nothing? |
| 14:29 | can you clarify? | |
| 14:30 | there's no such thing as "does nothing" :) | |
| 14:30 | unless it immediately reaches maximum entropy, I suppose. | |
| 14:31 | slef | any koha list admins awake? |
| 14:31 | eythian | who would be awake at this time of day? |
| 14:31 | tcohen | i don't have SIP configured but the koha-common init script advertises that stuff related to SIP is being started |
| 14:31 | eythian | tcohen: that's not an answer. What do you mean when you say "does nothing"? |
| 14:32 | Does it start a SIP daemon? Does it say the name of the instance? Does it freeze the computer up? Does the init script terminate, does it keep loading zebra daemons like it should? | |
| 14:33 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.213 pasted "rootkoha-dev:~# service koha-" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/130 |
| 14:33 | eythian | OK, so it doesn't do nothing then, that makes more sense :) |
| 14:33 | tcohen | i'm sorry for any idiomatic confusion |
| 14:33 | eythian | it just means you have a SIPconfig.xml in /etc/koha/sites/eco |
| 14:34 | tcohen: you just need to describe things like a programmer :) | |
| 14:34 | tcohen | touche |
| 14:35 | eythian | wahanui: touche is <reply>touché |
| 14:35 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 14:36 | rambutan1 | touche? |
| 14:36 | wahanui | touché |
| 14:36 | * eythian | continues the trend of being precise :) |
| 14:36 | rambutan1 | touché? |
| 14:36 | doesn't respond to that | |
| 14:36 | * tcohen | noticed :-P |
| 14:36 | jcamins | touché? |
| 14:36 | I wonder why everyone else's acutes show up as question marks for me. | |
| 14:36 | eythian | it is a different word |
| 14:36 | rambutan1 | wahanui: touché os <reply>touché |
| 14:36 | wahanui | rambutan1: i'm not following you... |
| 14:37 | rambutan1 | wahanui: touché is <reply>touché |
| 14:37 | wahanui | OK, rambutan1. |
| 14:37 | rambutan1 | touché? |
| 14:37 | wahanui | touché |
| 14:37 | jcamins | eythian: oh, what accent is everyone else using? |
| 14:38 | eythian | the regular accent. |
| 14:38 | é | |
| 14:38 | rambutan1 | En`guard´? |
| 14:38 | eythian | compose-e-' |
| 14:38 | jcamins | What do you see when I type "é"? |
| 14:38 | eythian | e-accent |
| 14:38 | jcamins: oh | |
| 14:38 | I was answering rambutan1 | |
| 14:39 | all the accents/acutes look correct to me | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Huh. I guess my terminal has the wrong settings. |
| 14:39 | eythian | Tekenset: IRC (Latin/Unicode Hybrid) |
| 14:39 | that's what I'm using | |
| 14:40 | jcamins | Hrm. I just have it set to UTF-8. |
| 14:40 | eythian | your client probable isn't understanding latin that some people might be |
| 14:40 | +using | |
| 14:40 | druthb | jcamins: dö my ö letters löök wröng? |
| 14:40 | jcamins | druthb: nope. |
| 14:40 | I mean, they look wrong because how the heck do you pronounced "löök" but I see the umlauts. | |
| 14:41 | druthb | :P |
| 14:41 | eythian | jcamins: like "luuuuu*breath*uuuuul" |
| 14:41 | *k | |
| 14:41 | * druthb | is way möre metal than yoü. |
| 14:42 | eythian | mötörhead has left the building. |
| 14:43 | druthb | eythian: I saw m?t?rhead, not mötörhead |
| 14:43 | eythian | it probably ended up sending as latin1 or something. |
| 14:43 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7143: add latest batch of committers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1c14a143ab137898> / Bug 7143 - Updating history and about page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31ef916f1f73fd975> |
| 14:44 | rambutan1 | well, everything looks right to me using xchat on openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) |
| 14:44 | druthb | (and it's Motörhead, not Mötörhead. Even they aren't that ostentatious.) :P |
| 14:44 | eythian | rambutan1: because xchat uses Latin1/unicode hybrid by default. |
| 14:44 | rambutan1 | Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango |
| 14:45 | eythian | where's that? |
| 14:45 | wahanui | that is a good idea. |
| 14:45 | rambutan1 | xchat: about |
| 14:45 | kf | ? |
| 14:45 | ßßßööüüää? | |
| 14:45 | * jcamins | could read all that. |
| 14:46 | eythian | you want xchat->network list->select the network->edit->charset |
| 14:46 | as it does a conversion at the connection level | |
| 14:46 | rambutan1 | OK, now that doesn't work, unless that's GE-Arabic mixed |
| 14:46 | druthb | Those look fine to me, kf. |
| 14:46 | jcamins | I guess it's pronounced sssssssssssssooooeeeeeeoooooooeeeeeuuuuuuuueeeeeeeuuuuuuueeeeeeeaaaaaeeeeaaaaaeeee? |
| 14:46 | eythian | jcamins: it's a short moon language word |
| 14:47 | druthb | السلام عليك |
| 14:47 | ? | |
| 14:47 | kf | eythian: :P |
| 14:47 | * druthb | tries to see how many chat clients she can make choke at once. |
| 14:47 | jcamins | That's too small for me to read. |
| 14:48 | I think you were going for السلام عليكم | |
| 14:48 | But you seem to be missing a few letters. | |
| 14:48 | Or they're just soo small that I can't see them. | |
| 14:48 | druthb | sloppy cut-and-paste, yeah. |
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| 14:50 | druthb | And your Arabic came thorough just fine here, jcamins. |
| 14:50 | rambutan1 | ภาษาเขียน |
| 14:50 | jcamins | rambutan1: Thai? |
| 14:50 | druthb | Thai, and it looks fine. :) |
| 14:50 | rambutan1 | si |
| 14:51 | jcamins | In that case, it came through fine. |
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| 14:51 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 14:51 | druthb | लिखित भाषा? |
| 14:51 | rambutan1 | 한국말 |
| 14:51 | druthb | Now I see why Hindi and Arabic typically use bigger font sizes. *squint* |
| 14:52 | rambutan1 | 안녕 mtompset |
| 14:52 | druthb | Hi, mtompset! :D |
| 14:52 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb rambutan1. |
| 14:52 | druthb | We're trying to give weak IRC clients a nervous breakdown. |
| 14:53 | mtompset | Oh, I name dropped your name to a librarian colleague of mine, druthb, since I don't know how to get involved in the translation of Koha into Tagalog, Illocano, etc. |
| 14:53 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10197: Add classes to patron info list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f798d2c49f50adcf> / Bug 10604: DBRev 3.13.00.014 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b33818ad926a88c07> / Bug 10604: increase width of two columns in the courses table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]tdiff;h=3793bfe9e |
| 14:54 | tcohen | is this ok in english: "Debian packages users: About Koha > Timeline was fixed for new instances. If you want it fixed on previously created instances you need to add <docdir>/usr/share/doc/koha-common</docdir> to the instance's koha-conf.xml file, on the <config> section." |
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| 14:54 | druthb | mtompset: Moar Translators! mtompset++ |
| 14:55 | mtompset | Seems fine, tcohen. So, to fix older instances, you need to add that docdir line into your koha-conf.xml for the instance? |
| 14:55 | nengard | hi all... just wanted to pop in an apologize for the recent silence on my part - i've been on the road nearly constantly since June 27th ... pluse we're prepping for a move to Texas here for Bri's new job - I'm still around and haven't forgotten about all of you! |
| 14:55 | Tomorrow i'm heading to OSCon where I'll talk up Koha with everyone I meet :) | |
| 14:55 | tcohen | on 3.12.2, yes |
| 14:55 | druthb | bgkreigel and tcohen have taken over that role, but I'll be glad to give 'em tips and encouragement to get 'em started. |
| 14:55 | Hi, nengard. :P | |
| 14:55 | mtompset | tcohen: Then what you wrote is perfectly okay. :) |
| 14:56 | druthb | Just run off and forget about us…. *dramatic sob* |
| 14:56 | mtompset | druthb: My librarian colleague is on a Filipino mailing list in which they are all trying to do Fedora-based installs mostly. |
| 14:57 | * mtompset | pokes, druthb, "Drama Queen!" |
| 14:57 | druthb | That would be me, yes. When I need to be. I'm not Catholic enough to guilt-trip nengard, and she's immune to my machinations anyway; she's known me too long. |
| 14:57 | mtompset | I also name dropped tcohen too. ;) |
| 14:58 | druthb | nengard is responsible for the ugliest picture of druthb known to exist. |
| 14:58 | mtompset | ugliest? |
| 14:58 | nengard | huh |
| 14:58 | what | |
| 14:58 | i don't take ugly pictures :) | |
| 14:59 | druthb | https://www.facebook.com/photo[…]88&type=3&theater |
| 14:59 | nengard | k ... that person isn't ugly ... it's just not you anymore :) |
| 14:59 | mtompset | That's not a bad picture at all! |
| 15:00 | druthb | I have continuity of memory with that being, but it's pretty blurry. |
| 15:00 | mtompset | It's a good picture of who you were. |
| 15:01 | Okay, strange question. I grabbed linux mint. | |
| 15:01 | I hate desktop. | |
| 15:01 | druthb | At that point, I was trying to get Koha running on an Asus EEEpc 900 that I'd bought used on Craigslist, mostly to prove I could do it. |
| 15:01 | mtompset | How do you uninstall a desktop and get a distribution to just do command line? |
| 15:02 | jcamins | mtompset: apt-get remove x11? |
| 15:03 | druthb | I still have that Asus, nengard. It's now my media center. :D (with a 3 TB external drive, natch) |
| 15:03 | nengard | wow |
| 15:04 | that's an idea .... we have an old tower for our media server | |
| 15:04 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10552: make several sysprefs available to the OPAC login page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb90e8a5ba4b6289b> |
| 15:04 | druthb | It runs OpenELEC/XBMC just fine! :) |
| 15:04 | eythian | mtompset: what mint? |
| 15:04 | wahanui | mint is a debian based one, and is nicer than ubuntu |
| 15:04 | eythian | debian or ubuntu based? |
| 15:04 | druthb | The only thing not working is the wireless, but since I've got it on the router, it's a non-issue for me. |
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| 15:04 | eythian | does it have a mint-desktop package, similar to ubuntu? |
| 15:05 | mtompset | ubuntu-based. |
| 15:05 | I think. | |
| 15:05 | Olivia? | |
| 15:05 | eythian | perhaps you can just remove that package and install mint-minimal, or something along those lines. |
| 15:05 | * eythian | has never used mint, so is just extrapolating. |
| 15:06 | mtompset | druthb: Sounds like some nice tech. :) |
| 15:06 | Those Asus EEE's are nice. I'm using my Asus EEE 1015PEM right now. :) | |
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| 15:11 | mtompset | Greetings, eythian jcamins pianohacker nengard tcohen. I think I got everyone I missed before. :) |
| 15:13 | I just installed (micro symbol)torrent the other day on my desktop. I keep getting corrupted ISOs when I download. To think I'm using it for legitimate purposes, given torrents' reputation otherwise. | |
| 15:13 | eythian | torrents shouldn't be able to result in corrupted files, in general,. |
| 15:14 | they checksum each part. | |
| 15:14 | s/checksum/hash/ | |
| 15:14 | if there's errors in it, they discard it. | |
| 15:14 | mtompset | No, the torrents are good. My brower downloads weren't. |
| 15:14 | Sorry for the ambiguity. | |
| 15:14 | eythian | ah, that's more likely :) |
| 15:15 | in that case, you chuck the browser file into the torrent directory and let it fix it by replacing the bad bits, it's very quick. | |
| 15:15 | mtompset | That's what I did. :) |
| 15:15 | eythian | good :) |
| 15:19 | rambutan1 | I'm late to the party, but Mint w/ Mate is the greatest OS+desktop ever invented (obligatory IMHO) |
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| 15:23 | eythian | http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge <-- hmm |
| 15:25 | rambutan1 | $32,000,000? |
| 15:26 | obviously they're looking for name-brand corporate contributions. $5 and $10 individual donations won't get the goal | |
| 15:27 | eythian | rambutan1: that's not how it works |
| 15:27 | for $600 you get one | |
| 15:27 | or $830 | |
| 15:31 | mtompset | So over 50,000 people? |
| 15:32 | jcamins | Only 39k at $830. |
| 15:32 | mtompset | So they are aiming for 39-54k people? |
| 15:33 | Only 7.5% of the planet? | |
| 15:33 | eythian | err |
| 15:33 | there is more than that number of people on the planet. | |
| 15:34 | by quite a bit | |
| 15:34 | mtompset | Oops... e-6 |
| 15:35 | That's a multiple shift problem. Oops. :) | |
| 15:35 | tcohen | eythian: would you take a look at bug 10617 |
| 15:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10617 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Init script cleanup |
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| 15:37 | eythian | I don't like removing the commented out status thing. It'd be better to implement it. |
| 15:37 | drojf | eythian: i have to edit debian/control and control.in f i want to add a dependency? |
| 15:37 | eythian | drojf: oh, I actually got that wrong in hindsight. |
| 15:37 | tcohen | and apart from that eythian? |
| 15:37 | eythian | assuming it's a perl dep, just control.in, and that should be done by using debain/update-control |
| 15:38 | drojf | ok. and if it is not a perl dep like gnupg? |
| 15:38 | eythian | drojf: then it must be in control.in |
| 15:39 | drojf | so if it is a perl dep it must be in control.in and if not then the same? you sounded like it made a difference at first ;) |
| 15:40 | eythian | drojf: no, one of those was a typo |
| 15:40 | drojf | argh :D |
| 15:40 | eythian | for a perl dep: control, however it should be generated with debian/update-control |
| 15:40 | for a non-perl-dep, both. | |
| 15:42 | drojf | from what is control generated? (if you say from control.in i am completely confused) |
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| 15:43 | tcohen | we don't have a daemon running btw |
| 15:43 | eythian | drojf: from control.in |
| 15:44 | drojf | lol |
| 15:44 | eythian | tcohen: yes we do, zebra and optionally sipserver |
| 15:44 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10576: make strings in additem.js accessible to translation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5d679b1312975e74d> |
| 15:45 | tcohen | so service koha-common status should check everything that is set to is running, and alert otherwise? |
| 15:45 | drojf | ok, so i 1) add my non-perl dep to control.in 2) use update-control to generate control and then add the perl-dep manually? |
| 15:45 | eythian | tcohen: yeah, it should check that everything that should be running is |
| 15:46 | drojf: no. update-control takes control.in, adds the perl deps to it, and creates control | |
| 15:46 | * drojf | needs a comprehension beer |
| 15:46 | mtompset | http://imgur.com/gallery/M1KU6MO (a humorous variation on 99 bottles of beer on the wall) |
| 15:46 | eythian | so if it's a perl dep, you just regenerated from control.in |
| 15:47 | if it's a non-perl dep, you put it in control.in and regenerate from control.in, or be lazy and just put it in both of them. | |
| 15:48 | drojf | and some people say ACQ workflows are weird |
| 15:48 | on a second thought, now it sounds easy | |
| 15:49 | thanks eythian, i'll come back and cry if it does not work ;) | |
| 15:49 | eythian | OK :) |
| 15:49 | it all makes sense if you compare the two files. | |
| 15:49 | drojf | i remember one had a lot more stuff in it ;) |
| 15:49 | mtompset | will that be before or after the comprehension beer, drojf? ;) |
| 15:49 | drojf | mtompset: way after :D |
| 15:49 | tcohen | i updated the patch eythian, thanks for the input |
| 15:49 | * drojf | has to change libraries |
| 15:49 | drojf | later |
| 15:54 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10578: fix results sorting in staff interface <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87577a8686c07d27c> |
| 15:54 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 16:16 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10586: fix CSS styling when printing cart from Firefox <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba3dd59255ee26926> |
| 16:27 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:31 | mtompset | Oooo... royal baby is on its way. |
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| 16:36 | eythian | rumour has it there's three arms. |
| 16:41 | cait | ? |
| 16:42 | eythian | ¿ |
| 16:44 | cait | that was just a strange comment to come back online to :) |
| 16:44 | gmcharlt | time to reread "A Study In Emerald" by Neil Gaiman |
| 16:45 | cait | oh |
| 16:45 | eythian | is that the "A young lady's primer" one? |
| 16:45 | no wait | |
| 16:45 | that's Neal Stephenson | |
| 16:55 | pianohacker | Neal Stephenson! |
| 16:58 | cait: I'm working on a pretty complex JavaScript application, and the "no translation of JavaScript strings outside templates" restriction is really bugging me. How hard do you think that would be to fix? | |
| 16:58 | cait | you would need to write a script that can successfully parse the js files |
| 16:59 | i have no idea how complex that really is | |
| 16:59 | pianohacker | cait: hmm, okay |
| 16:59 | cait | would using an include work? |
| 17:00 | Owen used one to make datatables controls translatable | |
| 17:00 | maybe take a look at that? | |
| 17:00 | pianohacker | True, that's something |
| 17:00 | I remember how utterly insane that thing is, but fixing the underlying issue might be a better long-term solution | |
| 17:00 | thanks for the duct-tape though :) | |
| 17:02 | cait | yeah - it might not be even that hard if you know what you are doing.... so that rules out me doing it :) |
| 17:03 | pianohacker: one nice thing about not fixing it is, that we don't have to copy the js files for every language | |
| 17:03 | i think most of them have no moved outside of the language directories even? | |
| 17:03 | have now... | |
| 17:04 | gmcharlt | yeah, for exactly that reason, I'd rather that we not end up having to copy the javascript around during installation |
| 17:05 | a messagecatalog-like construct might be easier to work with, perhaps | |
| 17:05 | cait | gmcharlt: we have an open bug about them not being translatable... i think I'd like to close it thinking about those side effects |
| 17:05 | pianohacker | true that |
| 17:05 | cait | gmcharlt: can you explain that a bit? |
| 17:06 | gmcharlt | cait: sure, something like this: https://code.google.com/p/jquery-i18n-properties/ |
| 17:06 | pianohacker | And I'm trying to keep this pretty modular, but UI code with every single string replaced by LONG_UPPERCASE_CONSTANT is pretty ugly, awkward and unnecessarily indirect IMO |
| 17:07 | trying to get an idea of how strings tie together in an application translated that way is often rather difficult | |
| 17:07 | cait | gmcharlt: that looks easy to read, butnot sure how to make the properties fieles usable with pootle |
| 17:08 | gmcharlt | cait: oh, *that* has got to be pretty easy to write a .pot parser for |
| 17:08 | cait | :) |
| 17:08 | i totally believe you when you say that :) | |
| 17:08 | i just don't want to end up with something like the cataloguing xml plugins :( | |
| 17:09 | we missed thinking aobu translatability when they went in, and they stayed untranslatable for a pretty long time :( | |
| 17:09 | so better think about those things early | |
| 17:09 | gmcharlt | easy enough to make it a requirement for accepting a patch that uses jquery.i18n (or whatever) |
| 17:09 | pianohacker | cait: What are you talking about? |
| 17:10 | cait | we got really nice plugins for cataloguing based on xml - but noone thought that the scripts wouldn't be able to deal with them |
| 17:10 | i have no idea who contributed them.. hope not stepping on toes here | |
| 17:10 | we all just missed it and then it sat there | |
| 17:14 | *sighs* | |
| 17:14 | i just go and qa some ok? :) | |
| 17:14 | I think i am not making sense again. | |
| 17:15 | eythian | you could probably do some interesting things with translation for JS |
| 17:15 | like externalise all your strings | |
| 17:15 | so you JS load the translations file and it's all inserted at runtime in the browser. | |
| 17:17 | cait | all the strings inside JS or all all strings? |
| 17:17 | eythian | just in the js |
| 17:17 | cait | k |
| 17:22 | tcohen | @seen bgkriegel |
| 17:22 | huginn` | tcohen: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 58 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> @later tell dcook Bug 9458 is now in 3.10.x, less fancy than 3.12 but works well |
| 17:22 | tcohen | hmm |
| 17:23 | gmcharlt: could jquery-i18n-properties conflict with our own i18n handling? | |
| 17:25 | (i.e. it won't be looking at KohaOpacLang cookie) | |
| 17:26 | cait | btw gmcharlt++ for explaining :) |
| 17:26 | gmcharlt | tcohen: what i18n of our JavaScript do we have currently? ;) |
| 17:26 | more seriously, yes, presumably glue code would have to be written to get the correct current language | |
| 17:27 | cait | we would be starting with the js files... and maybe extend to the javascript in the pages later... if there is a good reason those shoudl not be separate js files i guess? |
| 17:30 | tcohen | we are currently translating some JS using _("") on the themes |
| 17:31 | i agree we should move javascript outside the translatable stuff | |
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| 17:46 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: So, besides this translation stuff, what would be the best place to put non-language specific JS right now that isn't from an external library? |
| 17:47 | jcamins | I was thinking koha-tmpl/[intranet|opac]-tmpl/lib/koha/ |
| 17:47 | gmcharlt | that works for me |
| 17:48 | pianohacker | jcamins: I like lib/koha |
| 17:48 | gmcharlt | koha-tmpl/*-tmpl/js also works for me, but would require a bit of patching to the install and packaging scripts to tbe recognized |
| 17:48 | cait | hm on the risk of this being not a very clever question - is there a reason we have 2 plugins that look like they are for the branch names? (TT plugins) |
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | cait: because we hate the DRY principle, apparently |
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| 17:50 | cait | at least i am not hallucinating ... |
| 17:50 | so ok to open a bug about those? | |
| 17:50 | gmcharlt | yep; I see no reason not to consolidate them |
| 17:50 | cait | ok |
| 17:50 | weird thing - both seem to be from khall? | |
| 17:50 | gmcharlt | @blame khall |
| 17:50 | huginn` | gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 17:51 | gmcharlt | probably just as well that huginn doesn't have that plugin enabled :) |
| 17:51 | cait | what would it do? :) |
| 17:52 | gmcharlt | just provide a funny message |
| 17:58 | druthb | @quote random |
| 17:58 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #233: "<oleonard> How about Now that she's three my daughter has terrible authority control" (added by gmcharlt at 05:06 PM, February 14, 2013) |
| 17:58 | cait | @excuse |
| 17:58 | huginn` | cait: My excuse for today is "global warming" |
| 17:58 | cait | that's very fitting huginn |
| 17:58 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 17:58 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.9°C (7:55 PM CEST on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
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| 18:13 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 18:19 | druthb | @wunder 77063 |
| 18:19 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 35.3°C (1:16 PM CDT on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:19 | druthb | ! |
| 18:19 | @excuse | |
| 18:19 | huginn` | druthb: My excuse for today is "global warming" |
| 18:19 | druthb | fair 'nuf. |
| 18:19 | wahanui: cait? | |
| 18:19 | wahanui | go back to bed, cait. |
| 18:19 | druthb | LOL |
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| 18:35 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 18:35 | cait | hi oleonard .) |
| 18:35 | druthb | hi, oleonard! :) |
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| 18:40 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard. |
| 18:41 | @excuse | |
| 18:41 | huginn` | mtompset: My excuse for today is "global warming" |
| 18:41 | oleonard | Pretty good excuse these days, given the weather around here. |
| 18:42 | mtompset | Someone should change that to "Climate Change". "global warming" is less vogue. ;) |
| 18:45 | * druthb | blames mtompset. |
| 18:46 | mtompset | http://youtu.be/bOR38552MJA (South Park: Blame Canada) |
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| 18:48 | oleonard | nengard: Bug 10623 is about items which are lost and checked out at the same time? Long overdue? |
| 18:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , item lost says 'checked out' |
| 18:49 | nengard | long overdue/lost |
| 18:49 | and still checked out | |
| 18:49 | wahanui | checked out is set to 0000-00-00. |
| 18:49 | nengard | no it's not :) |
| 18:50 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10516 - Follow up - Fixing capitalization <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]493926181389efa6a> / Bug 10516 - Improve titles, breadcrumbs, and confirmation messages for Z39.50 server... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a00a93777984c7a5> |
| 18:53 | cait | pianohacker: still around? |
| 18:53 | pianohacker | cait: yeah, what's up? |
| 18:53 | cait | can you please rebase 10486? |
| 18:53 | i can't get it to apply | |
| 18:53 | Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. | |
| 18:54 | well, whenever you got time :) | |
| 18:55 | it looks like it's opac.css giving trouble | |
| 18:55 | pianohacker | crapspackle |
| 18:55 | okay, I'll do that | |
| 19:00 | druthb | crapspackle? |
| 19:00 | * druthb | falls out of her chair laughing. |
| 19:01 | druthb | That's a new one. |
| 19:02 | pianohacker | druthb: khall++ :) |
| 19:02 | druthb | you're blaming khall for that? |
| 19:02 | pianohacker | yup |
| 19:02 | druthb | heh |
| 19:03 | Interesting image, to be sure. | |
| 19:05 | Saw an interesting note on a whiteboard here, pianohacker and gmcharlt, that you might approve of… | |
| 19:05 | pianohacker | oh? |
| 19:05 | druthb | "Why innovate? " "echo 'STABLE' | sed 's/B//' " #that's why |
| 19:06 | pianohacker | Hah! excellent |
| 19:06 | gmcharlt | hehe |
| 19:07 | druthb | It is particularly relevant here, since our releases are always tagged like that— MAINT, STABLE, EDGE |
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| 19:10 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10557: remove unused branch parameter from GetBooksellersWithLateOrders <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ca654471eebf949a3> |
| 19:11 | rambutan1 | @wunder 64507 |
| 19:11 | huginn` | rambutan1: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 35.3°C (2:11 PM CDT on July 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:11 | jcamins | Wow. Queens_Library-- # For having two books listed as overdue in my account *EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE LISTED AS AVAILABLE IN THE CATALOG* |
| 19:12 | * cait | is just glad that's not a Koha bug |
| 19:12 | cait | enough bugs for today - good night all :) |
| 19:12 | pianohacker | bye cait |
| 19:13 | oleonard | jcamins: Is that like being on super-secret probation? |
| 19:13 | jcamins | oleonard: no, I think it's more like Queens Library once again being on the forefront of library disservice. |
| 19:14 | gmcharlt | jcamins: tell us what you really think! ;) |
| 19:14 | jcamins | I feel like I should tweet how appalled I am about this. |
| 19:15 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 19:15 | :) | |
| 19:15 | jcamins | I'm sure they'll remove the books from my record, but for crying out loud, their website has a shortcut for reporting that this has happened. |
| 19:15 | Pro tip: when you need a special shortcut to allow people to report that your system is broken, you need a new system. | |
| 19:16 | gmcharlt | jcamins: to be fair, the library staff may be in full agreement with that statement |
| 19:17 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I would think so. But that doesn't make it any less appalling. |
| 19:20 | * jcamins | sends them a complaint to add to their file, just in case they're one short for getting things changed. |
| 19:23 | mtompset | You could always mention that you do Koha support. ;) |
| 19:23 | jcamins | mtompset: frankly, any ILS that functions would be an improvement. |
| 19:23 | It takes three minutes -- well, almost -- to log in to my account. | |
| 19:24 | mtompset | True, but given this is the Koha channel, I thought I would suggest you push Koha first. ;) |
| 19:25 | 3 minutes?! Even with my patch and some weird SAML laginess, it doesn't take more than 20 seconds for me and Koha. :) | |
| 19:25 | jcamins | Since I wouldn't be interested in working with them, I'll leave the suggestion off. |
| 19:28 | Ooh, their website is made of win. | |
| 19:28 | I tried to submit a complaint about the fact that this is apparently a systematic feature (Shari says it's happened to her too), and they rejected the complaint option and lost my message. | |
| 19:29 | oleonard | All part of the plan. |
| 19:57 | mtompset | Cheaper than goats behind the wall of a suggestion box. ;) |
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| 20:10 | jcamins | oleonard: I have a usability question for you. Do you think clicking on an item in a list to select it is fairly predictable? (not in Koha; I know in Koha we always use checkboxes regardless how predictable it is) |
| 20:11 | oleonard | Clicking an item in a list *without* a checkbox? |
| 20:11 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:11 | oleonard | I would think that is not typically predictable. |
| 20:12 | Do you have real-world examples? | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Yes, I'm trying to find it again. |
| 20:12 | Mr. Helpful Kitty just climbed on my keyboard. | |
| 20:13 | Actually, we do have an example in Koha. | |
| 20:13 | I had forgotten about it. | |
| 20:13 | In the quotes editor. | |
| 20:16 | oleonard | I think such interfaces would either have to be accompanied by explanatory text or styled in such a way that it was clear what to do |
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| 20:41 | mtompset | Oops... running late. Bye, #koha. |
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| 21:29 | drojf | good evening #koha |
| 21:31 | jcamins | drojf: you should get Koha running on an arduino. |
| 21:31 | drojf | lol |
| 21:31 | jcamins | Then we could have a fully-mobile library system. |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | or a pi |
| 21:32 | jcamins | Give it some legs, and it could follow after you: "would you like a book?" |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea: drojf already did that. | |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | oh you mean for the legs. |
| 21:32 | i bet it is not fast. | |
| 21:32 | we are running rasbmc on ours now - it's nice | |
| 21:33 | it's just a fun little computer thing | |
| 21:33 | jcamins | wizzyrea: well, I was thinking of having Koha running on the arduino chip as well, but I suppose you could hook an rPi to an arduino to tell it to walk. |
| 21:33 | drojf | i have an arduino hooked to a pi |
| 21:33 | so yes, you can ;) | |
| 21:33 | jcamins | Actually, with Plack, Koha on an rPi isn't bad at all. |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | confetti! |
| 21:33 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 21:33 | jcamins | Provided you don't want to do anything big. |
| 21:33 | Importing 56k records? | |
| 21:33 | Bad idea. | |
| 21:34 | drojf | it's alright for a small library. if only plack would be completely working |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | oh, jcamins, to get the small confetti, you have to exclamation point |
| 21:34 | also good morning. | |
| 21:34 | jcamins | wizzyrea: ohhhhh. |
| 21:34 | Thanks. | |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | confetti |
| 21:34 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 21:34 | jcamins | Or maybe it just hates me. |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | oh or it's got two responses |
| 21:34 | jcamins | confetti |
| 21:34 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 21:34 | jcamins | confetti |
| 21:34 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 21:34 | jcamins | confetti |
| 21:34 | wahanui | confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | yep :) |
| 21:34 | drojf | confetti |
| 21:34 | wahanui | well, confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 21:34 | jcamins | Yeah, it just didn't feel like throwing any confetti the other day. |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | more confetti! |
| 21:35 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | you can always get it with more confetti lol. |
| 21:36 | drojf | i don't know how to survive with only two raspberry pi. i have one with that music distribution i can't remember the name of… but i want my raspberry koha back and i also want one running asterisk… |
| 21:37 | jcamins | drojf: asterisk? |
| 21:37 | I tried to set up a mumble server, and it didn't work too well. | |
| 21:38 | It kept on drowning the logs with errors about lag or something like that. | |
| 21:38 | Also, Shari resolutely refused to use an intercom in a 1br apartment. | |
| 21:38 | She prefers shouting. | |
| 21:38 | drojf | i have an xmpp server and bittorrent on the other. and things i forgot about |
| 21:39 | asterisk is a telephone voip whatever thingy. i'd like to play with voip tp gsm | |
| 21:39 | * oleonard | sneaks up behind wizzyrea and goes BOO |
| 21:39 | drojf | *to |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | HI |
| 21:39 | jcamins | drojf: yeah, I know what asterisk is, I'm just doubtful about how well it will work, if mumble didn't work. |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | sup oleonard |
| 21:39 | drojf | i see |
| 21:39 | there is a distribution for that | |
| 21:40 | and i have seen something… mom | |
| 21:40 | jcamins | Well- I guess mumble did work, it just complained a lot about how it wasn't working. |
| 21:40 | oleonard | I am workin' the late shift today. |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | WOO! |
| 21:41 | * wizzyrea | thought you were going to tell me that the responsive demo was broken or something :) |
| 21:41 | jcamins | oleonard: oh, BTW, kiwiirc works over port 80 if you're at the super-restrictive firewalled library again in the future. |
| 21:41 | drojf | jcamins: http://blog.carrier-connect.co[…]erry-gsm-gateway/ seems to work very well |
| 21:41 | oleonard | No, I'm not actually doing any Koha work today because I'm doing regular librarian stuff |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | *gasp& |
| 21:43 | you are observing koha in the wild, looking for ways to make it better? ;) | |
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| 21:43 | jcamins | drojf: whoah, cool! |
| 21:44 | oleonard | Yes, I've found that we really need to build in an "I forgot my library card" module |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | whereby the koha server gets up, walks to their house, and retrieves it based on the radio signal from the chip in the library card? |
| 21:45 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I thought that module was supposed to extrude an arm from the monitor and dope slap the patron. |
| 21:45 | drojf | lol |
| 21:45 | i'd like that | |
| 21:45 | * wizzyrea | spits tea |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | bwa hahahaha |
| 21:46 | http://s236.photobucket.com/us[…]ter-slap.gif.html | |
| 21:46 | rambutan1 | I want one of these: |
| 21:46 | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rigol-[…]sh=item3f0ffb0e0d | |
| 21:47 | pianohacker | rambutan1: For the bandwidth doubling hack? |
| 21:48 | rambutan1 | no, to do RF measurements mostly |
| 21:49 | drojf | wizzyrea: how is raspmbc? now that i have monitor that is capable of hdmi (and huge) i should try that some time too. |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | we use it with DLNA - it's fab |
| 21:50 | oleonard | You guys are just making up words now. |
| 21:52 | drojf | lol |
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| 21:54 | wizzyrea | dlna is the upnp video streaming service... thingie. |
| 21:57 | drojf | ok, together with an onion pi for tor i only need like… 10 more pis |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | Pi ALL THE THINGS! |
| 21:57 | drojf | \o/ |
| 21:58 | oleonard | Geeze, ladies' yoga group you are the loudest. |
| 21:58 | * wizzyrea | imagines the sound |
| 22:00 | drojf | yoga group? you seem to have a rather open definition of library |
| 22:01 | oleonard | They're using our meeting room |
| 22:02 | cjh | lost internet at home a few days ago, so have to try do the release tonight before I leave work. |
| 22:03 | * oleonard | idly wonders if anyone named "Destiny" will ever be on the US Supreme Court |
| 22:08 | bag | ha |
| 22:14 | * jcamins | wonders if he should report a bug with the automated ticketing system that Queens Library uses, decides to cut his losses. |
| 22:15 | jcamins | It turns out if you submit a ticket with the request that they not contact you it includes the message from the previous ticket the agent addressed. |
| 22:16 | oleonard | Messages like "How do I renew my books? My library card number is XXX and my password is XXX..." |
| 22:16 | jcamins | (I submitted a ticket to test the ticket submitting after I had cleared my cache so I could give a complete bug report; in order to be sure they weren't confused, I included the note "please don't respond, this ticket is just a test so that I can provide better information for the bug report that I filed separately") |
| 22:16 | oleonard: more like "Dear [redacted], Your SAP password..." oh my. | |
| 22:16 | oleonard: yes, _exactly_ like that. | |
| 22:19 | drojf | can we have that in koha? |
| 22:19 | * jcamins | thinks this has to be written in PHP. |
| 22:19 | jcamins | Truly, it is a fractal of bad design. |
| 22:20 | oleonard | I remember looking at the Queens Library web site when we did a big redesign several years ago. Design-wise it has gone downhill. |
| 22:20 | jcamins | Functionality-wise, it has fallen off a cliff. |
| 22:20 | drojf | heh |
| 22:22 | rambutan1 | what ILS do they use? |
| 22:23 | jcamins | rambutan1: Virtua + Aquabrowser I think. |
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| 22:34 | drojf | druthb! |
| 22:36 | druthb | drojf! |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | aquabrowser is pants. |
| 22:36 | pianohacker | pianohacker! |
| 22:36 | wahanui | pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems. |
| 22:37 | oleonard | wahanui knows this because pianohacker walks without rhythm |
| 22:37 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
| 22:37 | cjh | <3 Dune |
| 22:38 | pianohacker | hahahahahahaha |
| 22:38 | cjh | oleonard: heh nice |
| 22:38 | druthb | lol |
| 22:38 | * druthb | walks without rhythm, too, but it's because of the bum leg. *shuffle stumble trip BONK* |
| 22:38 | pianohacker | ... I recognized that quote from Fatboy Slim, actually... |
| 22:41 | oleonard | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7z57qrZU8 |
| 22:41 | cjh | > The uploader has not made this video available in your country. |
| 22:41 | pianohacker | yup :) |
| 22:42 | cjh: what the hell? That's crap | |
| 22:42 | oleonard | I had a feeling. There are other versions on YouTube though |
| 22:42 | Other copies I mean. | |
| 22:43 | They should have a big "you cannot share this outside your country" label on it | |
| 22:43 | Stop enjoying our cultural exports, foreigners! | |
| 22:44 | wizzyrea | cjh: http://grooveshark.com/s/Weapo[…]oice/43Felf?src=5 |
| 22:44 | cjh | T.T |
| 22:44 | oleonard | Except that new Lone Ranger movie. Enjoy that lots because we're not buying tickets for that. |
| 22:44 | pianohacker | lord sno |
| 22:44 | *lords no | |
| 22:44 | * wizzyrea | went to see pacific rim over the weekend |
| 22:44 | pianohacker | how was that? |
| 22:44 | wizzyrea | that was totally worth it. |
| 22:44 | cjh | wizzyrea: good? |
| 22:44 | wahanui | good is the furthest you go back, bad is the furthest you go forward (if those directions make sense) |
| 22:44 | cjh | wizzyrea: grooveshark is glitching out on that song, odd as it works for any other song. |
| 22:45 | wizzyrea: apparently 'the man' doesnt want me to hear this. | |
| 22:45 | * cjh | gives up |
| 22:45 | wizzyrea | the good: GIANT ROBOTS, giant. robots. Sea monsters. |
| 22:46 | the bad: only one female character (BUT she's kind of awesome) | |
| 22:46 | cjh | the bad: syncrhonised dancing? |
| 22:46 | wizzyrea | the inbetween: the story was serviceable enough, but as you might expect it lacked real depth. |
| 22:46 | but seriously, totally worth it just for the giant robot vs sea monster fights. | |
| 22:47 | oh and not gory at all (unless you count blue robot gore as "gory") | |
| 22:47 | pianohacker | does it count as passing the bechdel test if she talked to herself? |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | haha no |
| 22:47 | I don't think bechdel actually applies in this context. | |
| 22:47 | lol. | |
| 22:47 | pianohacker | hahaha yeah |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | because bechdel doesn't account for female characters being alone, but awesome |
| 22:48 | also, no kissing | |
| 22:48 | if you can believe that. | |
| 22:49 | * wizzyrea | is just glad that the earthquake didn't happen during the movie, we might not have noticed it |
| 22:49 | cjh | heh |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | WOW THIS IS REALLY REALISTIC |
| 22:49 | ......... | |
| 22:49 | cjh | wizzyrea: you would have thought it was one of those '4d cinemas' |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | ikr |
| 22:49 | those exist?! | |
| 22:49 | >.> | |
| 22:49 | cjh | at rainbows end they have a mini-cinema where you sit in chairs and get strapped down xD |
| 22:50 | * wizzyrea | would not like being strapped down to anything in wellington at the moment |
| 22:50 | oleonard | The Bechdel test requires that there be more than one named female character who speaks to another |
| 22:50 | * jcamins | complains vehemently on Facebook about how poor the NYT's map visualization of income increases in the US is. |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea | yea, it fails that |
| 22:51 | ...but she's still doing all right as a representative of femalekind I think | |
| 22:51 | I wasn't offended by her silliness anyway | |
| 22:52 | (or lack of silliness, as the case may be) | |
| 22:52 | drojf | 3.08.00, koha-dev, kohaclone… i bet it's a live dvd :P |
| 22:52 | based on git | |
| 22:52 | and old and rotten | |
| 22:52 | wizzyrea | nah they say they installed it on debian |
| 22:52 | jcamins | drojf: and politically partisan, too, claiming that New York and Boston are special even though they fall somewhere around the median. |
| 22:53 | Apparently once you start thinking about visualization, you lose the ability to say "hey, that's a nice visualization." | |
| 22:55 | drojf | wizzyrea: hm you are right, they say installed. second guess, old blog post by live dvd manager :P |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | now that could totally be |
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| 23:03 | wizzyrea | hourly loans came in 3.8 right? |
| 23:04 | drojf | lol |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | "experienced enough" |
| 23:05 | * wizzyrea | is not sure of the context here |
| 23:08 | drojf | hehehe |
| 23:12 | * wizzyrea | sighs |
| 23:12 | wizzyrea | http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/drums/wellington |
| 23:12 | that is pretty impressive, I have to say | |
| 23:13 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: James Bond is taking this shaken, not stirred thing to ridiculous levels |
| 23:13 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 23:13 | most of those you can't really feel on a conscious level. | |
| 23:13 | well I can't anyway | |
| 23:14 | can't/dont | |
| 23:15 | oleonard | You hankerin' for a good ol' fashioned tornado yet wizzyrea? |
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| 23:17 | wizzyrea | nah, I don't think so. |
| 23:21 | pastebot | "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "how much code by each person still survives" (214 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131 |
| 23:21 | druthb | Brilliant! http://laughingsquid.com/hipster-trap/ |
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| 23:26 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 23:28 | drojf | hi dcook |
| 23:29 | * drojf | goes to bed |
| 23:29 | drojf | night #koha |
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| 23:31 | dcook | [off[ oleonard: Who was bitching about MySQL? Other than me, that is :p |
| 23:31 | lol | |
| 23:31 | * dcook | had Monday off, so apparently Tuesday is the new Monday |
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| 23:51 | tcohen | hi cjh |
| 23:54 | cjh | hi tcohen :) |
| 23:54 | tcohen | had a power outage |
| 23:54 | cjh | tcohen: will do the release tonight after work before I go home |
| 23:54 | tcohen | ok, what time that would be? |
| 23:55 | cjh | in 6 hours and 5 minutes, ish :) |
| 23:59 | tcohen: dont wait for me though :) | |
| 23:59 | tcohen | i'll be sleeping like apuppy |
| 23:59 | a think i'm releasing right now | |
| 23:59 | just tested bernardo's .po files | |
| 23:59 | cjh | awesome :) |
| 23:59 | tcohen | and the upgrade process |
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