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00:04 | tcohen | morning dcook |
00:04 | shouldn't AuthoritiesLog default to yes (as CataloguingLog)? | |
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01:05 | jcamins | @later tell tcohen Yes, I think AuthoritiesLog should probably default to yes. |
01:05 | huginn` | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
01:13 | dcook | mtj: Are you around? |
01:14 | @later tell mtj Could you provide a rebased follow-up patch for bug 10096? | |
01:14 | huginn` | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
01:36 | jcamins | wizzyrea: rangi: other NZers: you're going to miss an interesting-looking symposium on collecting at the University of Otago during KohaCon... however, now that I look at a map I see that Wellington and Dunedin are not close at all, so perhaps you would have missed it anyway. |
01:37 | wizzyrea | nothing is *so* far in NZ. |
01:37 | not by US standards anyway. | |
01:38 | jcamins | 12 hour drive according to Google Maps. |
01:38 | wizzyrea | oh you wouldn't drive probably. |
01:39 | curvy roads + a ferry | |
01:39 | does it seem odd that a server would be spiking it's processor on a routine zebra reindex? | |
01:40 | jcamins | Depends how long the spike is. |
01:40 | wizzyrea | mmm ~15 secondsish |
01:40 | if that's normal then I'll be happy :) | |
01:41 | wizzyrea (TM) - Now with extra uncertainty. | |
01:41 | jcamins | That seems normal. |
01:41 | wizzyrea | kewl. |
01:41 | jcamins | Or within the range of "normal enough." |
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01:43 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
01:50 | Why can't IndependentBranches transfer books? | |
01:51 | wizzyrea | because independent branches are really just neighborly kohas who live on the same block, but everyone's books are in their own locked houses. |
01:51 | and no, they don't normally open the doors to let other libraries borrow them. | |
01:51 | which is, admittedly, a bit silly. | |
01:51 | mtompset | Then how do you do an inter-library loan? |
01:51 | wizzyrea | you issue the book to the library |
01:51 | then they check it out to their borrower | |
01:52 | transiting is handled outside of koha | |
01:52 | mtompset | So, if |
01:52 | I understand correctly... | |
01:52 | The one branch, checks out to an account associated with the other branch. | |
01:52 | Then sends it. | |
01:53 | Then the other branch checks it in and checks it out for the borrower? | |
01:53 | wizzyrea | that's certainly one way to do it |
01:53 | or they make a paper form. | |
01:53 | or | |
01:53 | or | |
01:53 | or | |
01:53 | @quote get 123 | |
01:53 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
01:53 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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01:54 | mtompset | So what is the best way for the second branch to track the borrower? |
01:55 | Or should perhaps the first branch check out the book for the borrower? | |
01:55 | jcamins | mtompset: not using indy branches if you want to share books? |
01:56 | mtompset | But we don't want librarians from other branches to go modifying other branches books willy-nilly. |
01:58 | [Prevent/Don't Prevent] staff (but not superlibrarians) from modifying objects (holds, items, patrons, etc.) belonging to other libraries. -- except for transfers? | |
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02:18 | mtompset | YAY! Now you have Chatzilla set up, manny. :) |
02:19 | irc? | |
02:19 | wahanui | irc is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
02:22 | manny | mtompset++ |
02:22 | mtompset | @karma manny |
02:22 | huginn` | mtompset: manny has neutral karma. |
02:22 | mtompset | manny++ |
02:22 | That's for actually coming here. :) | |
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03:44 | * Oak | waves |
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04:44 | dcook | Hmm, has anyone used the wildcarding with MARC::Record ? |
04:45 | Based on the documentation, it sounds like "$record->field('6..')" should be giving me a list of 600 fields for the record | |
04:45 | But it seems to only be returning the first 6XX field... | |
04:45 | bag | hmm.. should you be using an array maybe? |
04:46 | I've never used the wildcard in MARC::Record | |
04:46 | dcook | Hmm, good point |
04:46 | http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]ib/MARC/Record.pm | |
04:46 | If gmcharlt is around, I'm sure he'd know :p | |
04:46 | bag | he would |
04:46 | 9:45pm on a sunday night | |
04:46 | probably not around | |
04:46 | wizzyrea | be another 4-5 hours for him :/ |
04:47 | gmcharlt | dcook: you need list context, scalar context |
04:47 | wizzyrea | more. |
04:47 | gmcharlt | *not scalar context |
04:47 | bag | heya gmcharlt and wizzyrea |
04:47 | wizzyrea | omg. he is |
04:47 | dcook | gmcharlt: How do I specify that? |
04:47 | gmcharlt | @fields = $rec->field('6..') |
04:47 | huginn` | gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
04:47 | * wizzyrea | forgets he's on west coast time now |
04:47 | gmcharlt | rather than $field = $rec->field('6..') |
04:47 | huginn`: hush | |
04:47 | huginn` | gmcharlt: I suck |
04:47 | bag | there you go I know you need a @ :P |
04:47 | dcook | It won't do it automatically? |
04:48 | As in, won't create a list within the scalar that can be dereferenced with a @? | |
04:48 | gmcharlt | dcook: in a word, no |
04:48 | and I don't think I want Perl to be quite that clever! ;) | |
04:48 | dcook | hehe |
04:48 | Well, in any case, thank you very much, gmcharlt :) | |
04:48 | And you too, bag! | |
04:48 | gmcharlt++ | |
04:48 | bag++ | |
04:49 | Ah yes, as I read the documentation more closely...I see the sense | |
04:49 | Beautiful :) | |
04:49 | I'm writing a feature where patrons specify their subject areas of interest | |
04:49 | bag | sounds cool |
04:49 | dcook | Then a cronjob checks each night for new bibs in those areas of interests and sends a digest email with the info |
04:51 | Specifically meant for a special library context but could be useful to others.. | |
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05:14 | cait | good morning #koha |
05:14 | dcook | morning cait :) |
05:14 | cait | hi dcook :) |
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05:37 | dcook | tag_grep could be handy in MARC::Record... |
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06:41 | rangi | can anyone see this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]5¤t_tab=run |
06:41 | dcook | Depends |
06:41 | What are we looking for? | |
06:41 | The interface is there but no test cases | |
06:41 | rangi | or this |
06:41 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_run.cgi?run_id=1 | |
06:42 | i may have borked the permissions | |
06:42 | dcook | Can't see the second one |
06:43 | You are not authorized to view run 1 | |
06:43 | rangi | ah yep permissions |
06:43 | cool thanks | |
06:43 | dcook | np |
06:46 | cait | bbl |
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06:51 | reiveune | hello |
06:51 | wahanui | what's up, reiveune |
06:54 | rangi | hi reiveune |
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07:10 | gaetan_B | hello |
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07:26 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
07:28 | dcook | hey ya christophe_c |
07:28 | Time for me to head off for the night | |
07:28 | au revoir | |
07:56 | kf | hi christophe_c |
08:02 | christophe_c | hi kf ;-) |
08:02 | !later tell dcook hello | |
08:02 | :-/ | |
08:03 | not the good bot :) | |
08:03 | kf | with @ :) |
08:03 | at the beginning instead of ! | |
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08:44 | christophe_c | oh thx kf ;-) |
08:44 | @later tell dcook hello | |
08:44 | huginn` | christophe_c: The operation succeeded. |
08:44 | christophe_c | \o/ |
08:44 | :) | |
08:44 | @kf ++ | |
08:44 | huginn` | christophe_c: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
08:45 | christophe_c | :-D |
08:45 | kf | tht without @ :) |
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09:15 | eythian | hi |
09:21 | kf | morning eythian |
09:21 | dokuwiki-- | |
09:22 | eythian | kf: hello. |
09:22 | How's signing off that bug going? ;) | |
09:22 | kf | not sure, currently we are pretty busy with sending a library live :) |
09:22 | eythian | ah right, that's a reasonable excuse then :) |
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10:10 | kf | oleonard++ |
10:11 | eythian | https://campaign.joeyh.name/ <-- possibly relevant to your interests. |
10:12 | kf | what does git-annex do? |
10:15 | eythian | https://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/ <-- /me clicks the link for you :) |
10:15 | kf | yah - have mercy, it's monday |
10:15 | and i am still annoyed at the dokuwiki discussion plugin | |
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12:03 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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12:58 | eythian | http://musiclove.rs/ |
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13:22 | oleonard | I wonder why the mailing list person is looking at the Fedora INSTALL file for installing on OSX |
13:23 | eythian | :qa |
13:23 | gar | |
13:41 | kf | ? |
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13:55 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
13:55 | huginn` | gmcharlt: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011) |
13:56 | kf | heh |
14:08 | druthb | @quote random |
14:08 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010) |
14:23 | kf | hm can someone test if the 008 value builder works for them in current master? |
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14:27 | gmcharlt | kf: checking |
14:28 | kf: hmm, I think I see what you mean | |
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14:29 | gmcharlt | ah, running afoul of an Apache config issue |
14:29 | * gmcharlt | digs |
14:30 | gmcharlt | looks like a side-effect of commit 83cf63f7a |
14:33 | kf: for the moment, to get your DB to Just Work, try commenting out the two <DirectoryMatch> stanzas in the active koha-httpd.conf -- specifically, the ones below the 'secure iternal stuff' comments | |
14:33 | then reload Apache | |
14:39 | kf | gmcharlt: does it have other side effects apart of 008? |
14:40 | currently i am struggling with git bz... probably going to give up anytime soon | |
14:40 | and use wget to get the patches | |
14:40 | gmcharlt | kf: the other affect I'm seeing is that the favicon is getting blocked |
14:40 | grr | |
14:40 | *effect | |
14:40 | kf | grr |
14:43 | which bug was that? | |
14:44 | ah found it | |
14:44 | still no idea why git bz is not working | |
14:45 | gmcharlt | kf: are you using the fishsoup branch? |
14:45 | kf | yes |
14:45 | eythian | kf: describe the symptoms |
14:45 | kf | mom |
14:45 | i can#t paste from the server to here | |
14:46 | paste.koha-community.org/119 | |
14:47 | eythian | that looks like a configuration error, maybe you should re-do the git-bz config |
14:47 | although, I'd expect it to have failed before then | |
14:47 | I don't really know. | |
14:48 | kf | typoed in the git config variables |
14:48 | fixed | |
14:49 | eythian: you wouldn't believe how incredibly faster the new server is compared to the virtualbox installation :D | |
14:49 | eythian | well, your vbox is for some reason terribly slow. |
14:49 | kf | it was :( |
14:49 | and it got worse and worse | |
14:49 | in the end even typing in a terminal was laggy | |
14:50 | tcohen | hi kf eythian gmcharlt |
14:50 | eythian | hello |
14:51 | kf | so as we can't reproduce, it's mostly regression testing? |
14:53 | eythian | yeah |
14:54 | kf | it seems to work alright |
14:57 | done | |
14:57 | gmcharlt: 10590 passed qa | |
14:57 | gmcharlt | kf: great |
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15:06 | pianohacker | good morning #koha |
15:06 | kf: around? | |
15:06 | * druthb | goes :P at pianohacker. |
15:07 | reiveune | bye |
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15:07 | pianohacker | I want to harass you for sticking your tongue out at me but my vaguely southern upbringing won't let me do so without guilt... |
15:08 | * druthb | has a double whammy on you, pianohacker. That vaguely-southern upbringing doesn't let you pick on women or old folks, and she is both. |
15:08 | pianohacker | that's it! |
15:09 | druthb | :P |
15:09 | pianohacker | ah well. I'll have to settle for a discontented hello, and how are you |
15:10 | druthb | hm. Have you seen those zombies in AMC's _The Walking Dead_? That's what I felt like, this morning. Up, shambling around, making grunting noises, and looking for something to eat, rather mindlessly.. |
15:10 | kf | pianohacker: here |
15:10 | pianohacker | That's about what I feel like every morning |
15:12 | kf: In case you've had a chance to look, did the followup for bug 10320 satisfy your concerns? I'm still not entirely familiar with the translation system, so some parts were a bit hazy | |
15:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
15:13 | kf | pianohacker: that looks better but if you are not sure, you can run perl translate update de-DE from misc/translator |
15:13 | and then check the po files | |
15:13 | if the string shows up and if it references your file in the comments | |
15:13 | pianohacker | ah okay. thanks |
15:14 | kf | we normally don't do the space there I think; _( ' |
15:14 | butit should not make a difference i gues | |
15:14 | oh right | |
15:14 | we use " | |
15:14 | have you run the tests on your changes? | |
15:15 | it should complain, although the space might confuse it | |
15:15 | _( 'No results found in the library\'s OverDrive collection.' ) < pootle is often not happy with escaped stuff | |
15:15 | pianohacker | Hm. The translator script seemed to handle both, but I can see pootle being unhappy |
15:15 | kf | so I think we settled on using " so people can use ' in their translations |
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15:17 | gmcharlt | general question -- do folks need favicon to be language-specific, or can it just live in koha-tmpl/{opac,intranet}-tmpl/$theme/images ? |
15:17 | kf | overall looks good to me, but would test it a bit more |
15:17 | pianohacker | woah, I just realized that the spaces-inside-parentheses rule no longer seems to be codified |
15:17 | kf | i think not enough room for much script in a favicon... so I woudl be ok with a global one :) |
15:18 | pianohacker: ? | |
15:19 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: That was a thing at some point, correct? Was that the change that happened with http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s#PERL1:_Perltidy ? |
15:19 | kf | tcohen: will you pick more from master or do you want to hear about those patches as well? |
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15:19 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: presumably -- I must admit, I *hate* some of the default perltidy settings; I prefer the ones in xt/perltidyrc |
15:20 | eythian | https://github.com/torvalds/li[…]b/master/Makefile <-- Linux for Workgroups |
15:22 | gmcharlt | tcohen: in case you haven't already seen it, please note bug 10590 |
15:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected |
15:22 | gmcharlt | @later tell cjh please note bug 10590 |
15:22 | huginn` | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
15:23 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: interesting. Can't imagine having cuddled-else off, but I really like vt=1 as opposed to 0 or 2 |
15:23 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8f3fdab0d8c75cd15> / Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f21c71395315a73fe> |
15:23 | pianohacker | didn't know that it was a common perl practice though |
15:24 | eythian: He really did it? awesome | |
15:24 | gmcharlt | @later tell bgkriegel please note bug 10590 |
15:24 | huginn` | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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15:28 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1311 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
15:28 | tcohen | kf: i want to pick what is needed from master |
15:28 | gmcharlt: yes, was looking at it after reading your email | |
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15:40 | eythian | new master packages published. |
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15:41 | AmitG | heya all |
15:48 | rambutan | @seen jcam |
15:48 | huginn` | rambutan: I have not seen jcam. |
15:48 | rambutan | oops |
15:48 | @seen jcamins | |
15:48 | huginn` | rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 52 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <jcamins> mtompset: not using indy branches if you want to share books? |
15:48 | gmcharlt | kf: bug 10592 |
15:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10592 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Apache configuration is blocking fetch of certain icons and XML files |
15:49 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: In that realm, I had to open up fetching of XSLT in the apache config for bug 10486. Can you see that being a huge issue? |
15:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC |
15:50 | khall | oleonard: jonathan notices an oddity with the qotd datatable after applying the patch for bug 10558. Any ideas? Everything looked good to me, but I'm no css wizard. |
15:50 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Convert records table in manage-marc-import.pl to ajax DataTable |
15:52 | khall | @later tell oleonard jonathan notices an oddity with the qotd datatable after applying the patch for bug 10558. Any ideas? Everything looked good to me, but I'm no css wizard. |
15:52 | huginn` | khall: The operation succeeded. |
15:52 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: for that, my inclination would be to just take out the filtering of the xslt directory |
15:53 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: exactly what I did |
15:53 | gmcharlt | the main value of the patch for 9812 was not exposing the template source willy-nilly |
15:54 | * gmcharlt | notes that the patches attached to bug 10486 don't currently actually do that |
15:55 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
15:55 | pianohacker | what? hrm. Could have sworn |
15:55 | Follow-up time | |
15:59 | gmcharlt: done, thanks for pointing that out | |
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16:06 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha |
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16:13 | AmitG | heya gmcharlt |
16:13 | wahanui | gmcharlt is probably an expert in all things library technology. |
16:13 | gmcharlt | howdy |
16:13 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9770: fix sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]be2218627487e9f19> / Bug 9770: test case for sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50d9cb5fd77f3c483> / Bug 10447: add 'ru' and 'uk' to Zebra indexing language list <http |
16:13 | gmcharlt | phasefx_++ |
16:15 | * druthb | waves to mtompset. |
16:15 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. |
16:15 | Greetings, gmcharlt AmitG. | |
16:16 | I was amazed at the awesome speed of coordination to push in security patches in Koha. That's great! | |
16:23 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10575 : GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a758e28f8db9615a4> / Bug 10189: Translate values in UNIMARC 128b/c cataloguing plugins to English <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]98f5a582051b44e06> / Bug 10258: offer to create basket group only when staff user has |
16:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1311: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1311/ |
16:45 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected | |
16:45 | * Robin Sheat: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option | |
16:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected |
16:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #66 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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17:01 | drojf | yay for fixing the security thing in a few hours! |
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17:28 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #66: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/66/ |
17:28 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected | |
17:29 | * Robin Sheat: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option | |
17:29 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 7110: Renewal messages no longer displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled | |
17:29 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected |
17:29 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7110 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Renewal messages still displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled. | |
17:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1312 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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18:01 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
18:02 | oleonard | khall: Are you sure Chrome pulled a fresh copy of the CSS when you tested Bug 10558 again? |
18:02 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Convert records table in manage-marc-import.pl to ajax DataTable |
18:03 | khall | oleonard: good thinking, I'll clear my cache and retest |
18:04 | bam. I'll sign that patch now! | |
18:05 | thanks for your wizardry on this patch oleonard! | |
18:05 | oleonard | Any time. |
18:06 | * oleonard | polishes his pointy felt hat |
18:06 | cait | hi oleonard and khall :) |
18:06 | oleonard: i think i had a question for you... an dnow of course I don#t remember | |
18:06 | oh and hi mtompset | |
18:06 | oh right - oleonard - hte cart bug. do you have a minute? | |
18:06 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard. :) |
18:06 | oleonard | yes |
18:07 | cait | making sure i am on recent master, then retesting |
18:08 | oleonard: it#s still happening fo rme :( | |
18:08 | khall | hi cait! |
18:08 | cait | hm maybe firebug will tell something? |
18:10 | oleonard: i might have a lead | |
18:10 | can you try to add a record without any items? | |
18:11 | hm that's not it, it especially dislikes the first record in my result list | |
18:11 | * cait | is still puzzled |
18:11 | tcohen | bye #koha, c u later |
18:12 | cait | ok, it seems to be something about that record... |
18:13 | oleonard: i found it.... *sigh* out of date index | |
18:13 | i reindexed yesterday, not sure what's wrong there, i will mark the bug invalid | |
18:15 | * oleonard | updates the Cart so that it can travel back in time and display deleted records |
18:16 | mtompset | go back further and make it display things before they are entered, oleonard. ;) |
18:17 | cait | oleonard: thx for listening ;) |
18:24 | drojf | are there going to be new packages with the fix for 10590? |
18:24 | probably too late for eythian *ping* | |
18:24 | cait | hm good question |
18:27 | mtompset | If not, perhaps you could roll your own? |
18:27 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way | |
18:28 | drojf | i already did. i always roll my own ^^ |
18:28 | mtompset | I'm looking at possibly doing that in the future. |
18:29 | drojf | it's fun, you should try it |
18:29 | mtompset | But do you roll your own for a production system? |
18:29 | drojf | it's not productive yet but i will, yes. for a little while until what we need is in standard koha |
18:30 | mtompset | Have you upgraded from a self-rolled system to a newer packaged system? |
18:31 | drojf | basically it's the fun of koha with git combined with the convenience of the packages. plus an hour of packaging time on my slow VM |
18:31 | * mtompset | cringes, "I feel your pain, drojf." |
18:32 | drojf | on the machines we are using now, we started with standard packages and upgraded to our own. and at some point we will upgrade to a newer standard package again |
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18:33 | drojf | as long as you do not build custom packages that do weird stuff to the database i don't see any problems |
18:37 | * drojf | disappears to do non-koha things |
18:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1312: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1312/ |
18:45 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10504: Remove the unused C4::Acq::ModOrderItem routine | |
18:45 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10447: add 'ru' and 'uk' to Zebra indexing language list | |
18:45 | * Jason Etheridge: Bug 9770: test case for sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes | |
18:45 | * Jason Etheridge: Bug 9770: fix sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes | |
18:45 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10258: fix permissions check for setting basket group for order basket | |
18:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10504 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Acquisition::ModOrderItem is unused |
18:45 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10258: offer to create basket group only when staff user has correct permission |
18:45 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10189: Translate values in UNIMARC 128b/c cataloguing plugins to English | |
18:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10447 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Language definitions for 'ru' and 'uk' are not available during install |
18:45 | jenkins_koha | * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10575 : GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction |
18:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9770 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::ClassSortRoutine::Dewey can pad the wrong part of a call number internally |
18:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10258 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove erroneous call to haspermission in basket.pl | |
18:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10189 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , French values in cataloging plugins for unimarc 128b and 128c fields | |
18:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10575 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction | |
18:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #67 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
18:48 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. :) |
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19:04 | rambutan | where are the SIP configs on the Koha server? |
19:06 | not: /home/koha/kohaclone/etc/SIPconfig.xml | |
19:06 | there's another place, isn't there? | |
19:07 | cait | hm mayb if you have a dev installation but not sure |
19:08 | rambutan | we have a git install |
19:08 | cait | i woud check koha-dev/etc then |
19:08 | but i am not sure | |
19:09 | rambutan | ah! 2 points to cait |
19:09 | tnx | |
19:09 | cait | np |
19:10 | druthb | cait++ |
19:19 | oleonard | cait++ # He said *two* points |
19:19 | cait | lol thx |
19:22 | hm wonder if 7438 is still an issue | |
19:22 | bug 7438 | |
19:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7438 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , After attaching an item, clicking Cataloging breadcrumb results in 404 Error |
19:23 | * cait | is going through an old list of bugs she wrote down for some reason |
19:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #67: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/67/ |
19:26 | * Galen Charlton: bug 10495: set precondition for HoldsQueue test | |
19:26 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10336: HoldsQueue.t needs to create its own data | |
19:26 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10386: improvements to VirtualShelves.t | |
19:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10495 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , t/db_dependent/HoldsQueue.t can fail unnecessarily |
19:26 | jenkins_koha | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8884: opacheader is not in the header on CCSR |
19:26 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 8884: (follow-up) rearrange placement of the top-bar div in CCSR | |
19:26 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: test cases for the KohaBranchName plugin | |
19:26 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: remove spurious warnings from the KohaBranchName plugin | |
19:26 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10484: serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield | |
19:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10336 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , UT: HoldsQueue.t needs to create its own data |
19:26 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10386 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , UT: VirtualShelves.t needs some more adjustments | |
19:26 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8884 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , opacheader is not in the header on CCSR | |
19:26 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10494 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , KohaBranchName sends useless warnings to log if supplied library code is null or not present | |
19:26 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10484 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield | |
19:45 | cait | wizzyrea: around? |
19:51 | oleonard: still around? | |
19:51 | oleonard | Yes |
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20:09 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: as the maintainer of MARC::Record, do you have a preferred JS equivalent? |
20:15 | cait | good question from daskey hm. |
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20:32 | cait | wizzyrea: around? (second try :) ) |
20:39 | hmm | |
20:43 | pianohacker | cait: what's up? |
20:44 | cait | i have some questions about holds and was looking for an expert :) |
20:56 | wizzyrea | i am now |
20:56 | sup | |
20:57 | * wizzyrea | waves at cait |
20:57 | cait | oh hi :) |
20:58 | can i ask you some questions about holds between multiple branches? :) | |
20:58 | in that case 2 actually | |
20:59 | wizzyrea | sure |
20:59 | cait | the question is, if you can configure koha so that they can only place holds on items, that are not available (= checked out, for reference) at the patron library's branch |
21:01 | and the other is allowonshelfholds I think... it's global, but if i turn it off... can i still reserve items from other branches? I will have to do lots of tsting... but there are so many holds parameters it#s rather confusing | |
21:01 | * cait | offers cookies |
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21:02 | wizzyrea | ok, so if we were to write a story about this |
21:03 | borrower A from library 1 cannot place reserves on items at library 1 unless they are checked out | |
21:03 | borrower B from library 2 wants to place an item on (an on shelf or unavailable item?) from library 1, can they do it? | |
21:03 | is that the question? | |
21:04 | are you asking me if borrower b can place reserves on an on-shelf item from library 1? | |
21:04 | cait | now i am confused |
21:04 | :) | |
21:04 | let me reread that | |
21:04 | borrower A from library 1 cannot place reserves on items at library 1 unless they are checked out < YES | |
21:05 | wizzyrea | so library 1 wants allowonshelfholds OFF |
21:05 | cait | so let's say all copies are checked out, but there is one at the other branch, he should be able to order that copy |
21:05 | wizzyrea | no. |
21:05 | cait | no = not possible? |
21:05 | wizzyrea | not unless it is checked out |
21:05 | cait | *sigh* |
21:05 | i was afraid of that | |
21:06 | wizzyrea | allow on shelf holds means "yes, allow available items to be placed on reserve" or "no, do not allow available items to be placed on reserve" |
21:06 | cait | yeah... i thought maybe i could get some magic happen for things not at the same branch |
21:06 | or probably more hoping | |
21:06 | wizzyrea | so if library 2 has an item that is on the shelf, borrower A still can't place a reserve on it. |
21:07 | cait | or we turn it ON... but then he can place a hold on it and noone is ever going to get the item for him. |
21:07 | or the item from the other branch will be sent in... which is not really right | |
21:07 | wizzyrea | well it will turn up on library2's pick list |
21:07 | hold queue, sorry | |
21:08 | but that assumes no independent branches | |
21:08 | cait | will it turn up on the holdqueue for his library first if there is an available item? |
21:08 | what changes with indybranches? | |
21:08 | wizzyrea | libraries can't see each other. |
21:08 | cait | we stlil can allow reserves |
21:09 | wizzyrea | ok so NEKLS does exactly what you are talking about |
21:09 | they allow on shelf holds | |
21:09 | cait | at leat there is a parameter for that especially for use with indybranches |
21:09 | wizzyrea | no independent branches |
21:09 | borrower A wants an item from library 2, places a reserve, there are 48 potential libraries that can fill that. | |
21:10 | the hold queue does some dancing, and assigns the reserve to a library | |
21:12 | cait | would the hold queue be able to prefer the own library if the item is available there? |
21:12 | was available there... | |
21:14 | wizzyrea | you can use the hold queue weight |
21:14 | the hold queue has changed a lot, you can use the transport cost matrix | |
21:14 | too | |
21:15 | but I don't have a ton of experience with that | |
21:15 | like, you could make it super cheap to get a book from your own library, but really expensive to get one from another | |
21:15 | and then it would game the system into preferring the home branch | |
21:15 | I think it might do some of that by default | |
21:16 | cait | wizzyrea: ok |
21:17 | wizzyrea | i haven't looked super closely at the new hold queue code. |
21:17 | it changed in... 3.10? | |
21:20 | cait | not sure |
21:22 | wizzyrea++ wizzyrea++ | |
21:22 | have to ponder this more - thx for the pointers :) | |
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22:01 | wizzyrea | gl |
22:01 | * wizzyrea | just had a humorous freudian slip |
22:02 | wizzyrea | they're not "MARC subfields," they're "MARC subfiends." |
22:05 | jcamins | wizzyrea: sounds about right. |
22:05 | wizzyrea | :) |
22:15 | pianohacker | bye #koha |
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23:37 | tcohen | c'mon jenkins |
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23:39 | dcook | morning #koha |
23:39 | tcohen | hi dcook |
23:39 | dcook | hey tcohen :) |
23:41 | tcohen | junkins is a bit lazy today |
23:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #68 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
23:46 | cjh | I am not sure I will have much time to Rmaint until the weekend, cutting it close... |
23:47 | tcohen | hi cjh |
23:48 | cjh | ahh drats, will have to try get it done before that so we have time to translate. |
23:48 | hi tcohen | |
23:48 | tcohen | dates can be moved too |
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23:55 | wizzyrea | aw be sweet to jenkins. |
23:55 | bots have feelings too. | |
23:55 | cjh | wahanui: do you have feelings? |
23:55 | wahanui | i don't know, cjh |
23:55 | dcook | Junkins is a rather great terrible nickname though :p |
23:56 | tcohen | i didn't do it on purpose |
23:56 | maybe a sub-conscious thing :-P | |
23:57 | dcook | ;) |
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