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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 01:05 | edveal joined #koha | |
| 01:27 | dcook | Neato! |
| 01:27 | My record type facet works pretty nicely using the Leader... | |
| 01:28 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 01:28 | dcook | Provided that people code the Leader correctly.. |
| 01:28 | Which this library has ^_^ | |
| 01:28 | Mmm fixed field data | |
| 01:29 | Need to have better labels than the ones used in MARC though | |
| 01:29 | One does not necessarily equate "Two-dimensional nonprojectable graphic" and "Picture" at the drop of a hat | |
| 01:30 | jcamins | dcook: really? :P |
| 01:30 | dcook | :p |
| 01:31 | wizzyrea | lulz. |
| 01:31 | lunch! | |
| 01:46 | drnoe_away left #koha | |
| 01:49 | dcook | Mmm lunch |
| 02:10 | Interesting conversation on twitter at the moment regarding a way to have an "Open Access" facet | |
| 02:10 | While there are lots of ways to do it, it would be nice if a metadata scheme included a hook for that | |
| 02:11 | Err, reliable hook | |
| 02:15 | jcamins | dcook: it'd be very nice. |
| 02:15 | Fortunately MARC is a recent development that takes that sort of thing into account. | |
| 02:15 | :P | |
| 02:16 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:18 | $v - Hours access method available | |
| 02:18 | I suppose some websites still have scheduled downtime, but I'm pretty sure that subfield was made for uptime... | |
| 02:19 | jcamins | Heh. Yup. |
| 03:47 | wizzyrea | @later tell bgkriegel did you need an account to koha-community.org that has posting rights? |
| 03:47 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:03 | mtj | hey wizzyrea, you gonna come along to the perlmongers catchup tonite? |
| 04:03 | wizzyrea | mm probably not, I've got kiddo in tow and an upgrade to do |
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| 04:04 | mtj | aah yeah…that might be tricky :) |
| 04:05 | next time | |
| 04:05 | wahanui | next time is in 87 years or something... ;-) |
| 04:06 | wizzyrea | ^^^ |
| 04:06 | totally apropos | |
| 04:06 | well at least... 14 years | |
| 04:06 | :P | |
| 04:09 | mtj | we could always arrange some sort of teleconference solution |
| 04:10 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 04:37 | bag | heya mason and wizzyrea |
| 04:37 | wizzyrea | whaddup homie |
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| 05:13 | * Oak | waves |
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| 05:34 | AmitG | hi |
| 05:34 | all | |
| 05:34 | chris around? | |
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| 05:42 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:43 | AmitG | heya cait |
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| 06:20 | bag | ok I'm open for quick thoughts - I'm only getting results on the staff side but not the opac for search |
| 06:25 | dcook | opacsuppresion? |
| 06:25 | sys pref that is | |
| 06:27 | Side note, how would one point to an XSLT on a different Koha site? | |
| 06:27 | In terms of forming the URL | |
| 06:29 | bag | http://media.bywatersolutions.com/path |
| 06:30 | I've checked opacsuppression like 10 times | |
| 06:30 | dcook | Weird...that method isn't working for me.. |
| 06:30 | bag | hmm can you paste the URL in here? |
| 06:31 | dcook: I'm finding one that works for me | |
| 06:32 | for example dcook http://media.bywatersolutions.[…]ntranetDetail.xsl | |
| 06:35 | dcook | Hmm, still no luck :/ |
| 06:35 | Your link almost worked for me though :) | |
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| 06:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:36 | bag | yeah dcook the problem with my link is the import ref is pointing to /home/opac10 |
| 06:37 | dcook | Yeah, I noticed that, but it retrieved the xsl so overall it worked :) |
| 06:37 | bag | if you copy that file and change the import ref to the local copy of MARC21slim etc... |
| 06:37 | <xsl:import href="/home/opac10/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl"/> | |
| 06:37 | dcook | I wonder.. |
| 06:37 | bag | that line needs to be your local MARC21blah blah blah |
| 06:38 | dcook | Mmm, right. |
| 06:38 | Still, I can't even access the file itself :S | |
| 06:39 | It should just be mylink.com.au/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl | |
| 06:39 | It seems.. | |
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| 06:40 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 06:44 | bag | so you can't even see that file in a browser? |
| 06:44 | dcook: ^^^ | |
| 06:45 | dcook | Not like that |
| 06:45 | This works: /opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail-Test.xsl | |
| 06:45 | But not /xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail-Test.xsl | |
| 06:45 | bag | alright my dog is whinning at me to take him home |
| 06:45 | night night | |
| 06:46 | dcook | night bag |
| 06:49 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 06:49 | dcook | morning drojf :) |
| 06:49 | drojf | hi dcook |
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| 07:14 | dcook | night #koha |
| 07:14 | (Almost said night dcook...are we sure it's not Monday in Oceania...) | |
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| 07:19 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:20 | drojf | hi gaetan_B |
| 07:21 | gaetan_B: did you solve the mystery of the reversed word order in that one title? | |
| 07:22 | gaetan_B | hi drojf oh no i haven't, i think it's a zebra bug |
| 07:22 | drojf | d'oh |
| 07:30 | @later tell rangi i remember i had problems with a single (non-english) language installation at some point. i intuitively check both english and german when i do a german installation and i think it is because of that. | |
| 07:30 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:30 | drojf | rangi++ |
| 07:40 | rangi | yep, got a fix for that now |
| 07:40 | ill submit it as a patch at some point unless someone wants to take that commit and do it for me :) | |
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| 07:57 | drojf | rangi: i'd say submit it when you're ready and i volunteer to test |
| 07:58 | rangi | righto |
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| 08:02 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 08:02 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.5°C (9:43 AM CEST on July 09, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:04 | AmitG joined #koha | |
| 08:13 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 08:14 | wizzyrea | it's so quiet! |
| 08:16 | kf | it is :) |
| 08:16 | wizzyrea | @joke |
| 08:16 | huginn | wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 08:16 | wizzyrea | close enough |
| 08:16 | :) | |
| 08:17 | kf | @excuse |
| 08:17 | huginn | kf: My excuse for today is "cosmic expansion" |
| 08:17 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 08:22 | I can't seem to get the unit tests to work on 8133 (bad version of dbd-mock I think) | |
| 08:22 | anyway. | |
| 08:24 | rangi | excuse |
| 08:24 | wahanui | rangi: The server at bofh.engr.wisc.edu (port 666) appears to be down. |
| 08:24 | rangi | darn |
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| 08:30 | wizzyrea | @excuse |
| 08:30 | huginn` | wizzyrea: My excuse for today is "cosmic expansion" |
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| 08:46 | eythian | @wunder brighton, uk |
| 08:46 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 20.8°C (9:45 AM BST on July 09, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
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| 09:12 | gerundio | good morning |
| 09:12 | calendar? | |
| 09:12 | wahanui | i think calendar is right |
| 09:13 | gerundio | release? |
| 09:14 | wahanui | somebody said release was the 22nd nz time every month |
| 09:14 | gerundio | schedule? |
| 09:14 | wahanui | i think schedule is not fixed yet..there has been some delay from the client side.. |
| 09:15 | gerundio | I've found two pages on the koha website related to the software releases, http://koha-community.org/about/release-schedule/ and http://koha-community.org/category/release/ |
| 09:16 | the calendar link on the top menu on the site doesn't show anything | |
| 09:16 | is there any better place to look for an history of koha releases? | |
| 09:16 | eythian | if you want a history, probably history.txt in the release itself. |
| 09:16 | * eythian | finds a link |
| 09:17 | eythian | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a5f799947;hb=HEAD |
| 09:17 | wahanui: history | |
| 09:17 | wahanui | eythian: what? |
| 09:17 | eythian | wahanui: history is http://git.koha-community.org/[…]story.txt;hb=HEAD |
| 09:17 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 09:19 | eythian | wizzyrea: is the calendar on the k-c site your baby? Because it sure is broke. |
| 09:26 | wizzyrea | oo hm |
| 09:26 | broken how | |
| 09:27 | oh, like not showing broken. ^>^ | |
| 09:30 | well that's special | |
| 09:31 | how's that looking now | |
| 09:32 | it had a blank page cached | |
| 09:35 | eythian | there's a calendar there, though it doesn't have things like planned release dates on it, alas :) |
| 09:35 | wizzyrea | not for july :) |
| 09:35 | it does have Pi on there | |
| 09:35 | in november | |
| 09:35 | it's not got the monthlies in it yet - it's pretty new | |
| 09:36 | eythian | yeah |
| 09:40 | wizzyrea | right give that a refresh |
| 09:40 | that's a pretty flash display if I do say so | |
| 09:46 | eythian | it is. I wonder if making it display in the posterboard form could be a good defalt |
| 09:47 | it just shows more stuff at once :) | |
| 09:47 | wizzyrea | I did that, actually - shift refresh? |
| 09:47 | you might have to click the calendar link again | |
| 09:47 | eythian | oh, I'd moved months around, so it probably defaulted to what it thought I wanted. |
| 09:48 | wizzyrea | possibly, it's a bit squicky. |
| 09:48 | but darn pretty. | |
| 09:49 | I think I'm going to have to give Daniel another lesson on proper anchors :/ | |
| 09:49 | the newsletters are never right. | |
| 10:40 | gerundio | eythian++, thanks for your input regarding the koha release history :) |
| 10:40 | eythian | np |
| 10:55 | * kf | waves |
| 10:57 | * eythian | particles |
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| 11:56 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:35 | kf | hi oleonard |
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| 12:39 | gabrielle_dusse | Hello, i'm trying to create an account on http://translate.koha-community.org and each time i have an error message, can someone help me? |
| 12:40 | kf | hi gabrielle_dusse |
| 12:40 | could youreport your problem to koha-translate mailing list? | |
| 12:40 | gabrielle_dusse | I have the same error message when i try to report my problem,,, |
| 12:40 | kf | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]fo/koha-translate |
| 12:42 | gabrielle_dusse | i'll try with your link |
| 12:46 | tcohen | hi gabrielle_dusse |
| 12:46 | what error? | |
| 12:46 | gabrielle_dusse | It says "servor error" |
| 12:47 | server* | |
| 12:48 | when i try to create an account there: http://translate.koha-communit[…]ccounts/register/ | |
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| 12:52 | kf | tcohen: i had someone else reporting that the verification mail didn'>t go out, i left bgkriegel a message but i am not sure he got it yet |
| 12:52 | tcohen | that's correct kf, we solved it a few days ago |
| 12:54 | let me check gabrielle_dusse, the current admin is away, we are on winter holidays | |
| 12:54 | gabrielle_dusse | ok thanks a lot |
| 12:54 | kf | tcohen: oh cool, thx |
| 12:56 | tcohen | i guess the latter of course |
| 13:05 | gabrielle_dusse: the confirmation email send step is the one that failed, your user is created already | |
| 13:05 | gabrielle_dusse | but when i try to connect, it says that my account is not active |
| 13:06 | tcohen | that's correct |
| 13:06 | you have 5 accounts actually | |
| 13:06 | gabrielle_dusse | i know i tried many times... |
| 13:07 | do i have a way to confirm an account without the confirmation email? | |
| 13:07 | gerundio | hi |
| 13:07 | tcohen | i'll do it by hand |
| 13:07 | gabrielle_dusse | ok thanks |
| 13:07 | tcohen | i'll pick your first attempt |
| 13:07 | gerundio | I'm looking at the |
| 13:07 | Subscription summary of a serial collection | |
| 13:08 | I have a list of records with status Expected | |
| 13:10 | when I try to edit those records via the "Edit serials" button and for those the Status select form element is disabled | |
| 13:10 | can anyone point me out the rules that allow that form select element to disabled/enabled? | |
| 13:11 | jcamins | gerundio: you can only edit the first item with a status of "Expected," I think. |
| 13:11 | If you change the old ones to "Late," you'll be able to edit them all. | |
| 13:12 | gerundio | right now I'm unable to edit 12 records with Status Expected |
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| 13:12 | gerundio | does this make any sense? |
| 13:13 | I'm not a librarian, so I just received a call alerting me to this koha behaviour | |
| 13:14 | which I don't know and don't understand | |
| 13:20 | gabrielle_dusse | tcohen: did you confirm my account? |
| 13:20 | jcamins | gerundio: I am not 100% sure, but if my understanding of why it does what it does is correct, it does make a certain amount of sense: only one issue of a monthly journal will ever be expected at a time. |
| 13:20 | If it's October, the September issue is late, not expected. | |
| 13:20 | tcohen | gabrielle_dusse: bgkriegel is contacting you right now |
| 13:20 | bgkriegel | gabrielle_dusse: I'll do that |
| 13:21 | gabrielle_dusse | thanks |
| 13:21 | gerundio | jcamins, fyi, someone added 12 issues with the same date for a given subscription |
| 13:21 | all of them are with status Expected | |
| 13:22 | every record with date previous to those have status Arrived | |
| 13:23 | jcamins | gerundio: I don't know much about it, but I don't think that you'll be able to deal with this without a patch. |
| 13:24 | gerundio | would changing the dates on those records do any good? |
| 13:25 | jcamins | I don't think so. But I'm not 100% sure, so your best bet is probably to just experiment. |
| 13:28 | druthb | @quote random |
| 13:28 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #162: "oleonard: I think DRM is inherently incompatible with any lending system which will be friendly to patrons." (added by wizzyrea at 04:03 PM, October 28, 2011) |
| 13:28 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 13:29 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack annoying_SUV_drivers |
| 13:29 | wahanui | :) |
| 13:34 | gerundio | jcamins, changed the dates to match the weekly rule defined for this subscription |
| 13:34 | the form remaing with the disabled select elements for the 12 records | |
| 13:35 | earlier you said "you can only edit the first item with a status of "Expected," I think" | |
| 13:35 | in this case I'm unable to edit any record with status of "Expected" | |
| 13:36 | jcamins | gerundio: in that case, I'm thinking bug. |
| 13:36 | gerundio | I'll look into the source code |
| 13:36 | jcamins | It should definitely let you change the first one to "Late." |
| 13:36 | gerundio | let me try to understand this feature |
| 13:40 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Serial edition" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/108 |
| 13:41 | gerundio | jcamins, take a look at the paste I've made |
| 13:41 | jcamins | Ooh. Expired subscription! |
| 13:41 | So, not a bug. | |
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| 13:42 | gerundio | that's how I read it too |
| 13:43 | so my questions now are: | |
| 13:43 | 1. what does $serinfo->{'status1'} stand for? | |
| 13:43 | 2. what does $serinfo->{'cannotedit'} stand for? | |
| 13:44 | jcamins | I have no idea about either. |
| 13:44 | gerundio | 3. how can I temporarily remove the expiration from this subscription to edit these records? |
| 13:44 | jcamins | But an expired subscription would make sense. |
| 13:44 | Just renew it for another 12 issues. | |
| 13:45 | gerundio | I see Subscription history |
| 13:46 | Hint: you can update the serial history manually. This can be useful for an old subscription or to clean the existing history. Modify these fields with care, as future serial receive will continue to update them automatically. | |
| 13:46 | this looks just what I'm looking for | |
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| 13:57 | vfernandes | hello |
| 13:57 | i'm having a little problem: call number searches and ordering are not working.. | |
| 14:04 | gmcharlt | tell us more |
| 14:07 | gerundio | hey vfernandes, long time no see :) |
| 14:07 | jcamins, I managed to reactive the subscription | |
| 14:07 | it's from a magazine since 1957 | |
| 14:07 | I inserted a 700 months duration for the subscriptio | |
| 14:07 | subscription ^ | |
| 14:08 | now, the status for those records is enabled and the librarians can finish their work | |
| 14:08 | not the best practice I guess, but it worked | |
| 14:08 | jcamins++ | |
| 14:08 | vfernandes | my itemcallnumber are being inserted but can be searched |
| 14:09 | *can't | |
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| 14:40 | eythian | @wunder brighton, uk |
| 14:40 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 28.0°C (3:30 PM BST on July 09, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
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| 14:46 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 14:48 | druthb | Hi, drojf! :) |
| 14:48 | * druthb | offers drojf a cookie. |
| 14:53 | drojf | cookie \o/ |
| 14:53 | thanks druthb | |
| 14:53 | druthb | :) |
| 14:58 | oleonard | Wow. |
| 15:05 | drojf | when i do a fresh installation of 3.10, do i need to install mysql-server first if i want to use mariadb? or will it just work if i install mariadb-server? |
| 15:09 | eythian | try it and find out |
| 15:10 | I suspect that the changes in paths may throw it a bit, but that'll probably the worst of it. | |
| 15:12 | drojf | i just had a terrible time trying to install koha with mysql and a mariadb repo present. i'm not sure if it's better now without the repo, i got a different error. but i can log in to mysql. i could not before, it screwed something up with the root password. |
| 15:13 | eythian | yeah, the code as it is is pretty specific to mysql and its command line operations. Abstracting that out wouldn't be hard. |
| 15:13 | (assuming you're talking about packages, anyway) | |
| 15:13 | drojf | i am |
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| 15:24 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:24 | gmcharlt | eythian: what changes in paths, though? I've been running mariadb (via MariaDB's APT repository) on Wheezy; thus far haven't had any problems |
| 15:25 | eythian | just expecting that the koha-common.cnf that gets linked to from /etc/mysql may not work. |
| 15:25 | drojf | gmcharlt: but you did not install with MariaDB but changed to it later i suppose? |
| 15:25 | eythian | although |
| 15:25 | I can't actually remember what that does | |
| 15:25 | I think it's rarely used. | |
| 15:26 | jcamins | drojf: you need to install mariadb-server and not mysql-server, I think. |
| 15:26 | eythian | might be for creating new databases |
| 15:26 | jcamins | If you install mysql-server first, you'll end up with incorrect configuration files. |
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| 15:27 | jcamins | (because MariaDB will not clobber MySQL's configuration) |
| 15:27 | At least, that's what I found. | |
| 15:28 | drojf | jcamins: i installed mysql-server while the mariadb repo was present and apparently it pulls stuff from there then and it breaks koha package installation |
| 15:28 | jcamins | drojf: what broke about the installation? |
| 15:28 | gmcharlt | eythian: yep, jsut appears to be used for providing credentials when creating and dropping databases |
| 15:28 | jcamins | On my server with MariaDB, the MariaDB files are exactly where the MySQL files would go. |
| 15:28 | drojf | jcamins: it wasn't possible to create an instance |
| 15:29 | it b0rked something about the pw i think | |
| 15:29 | i could not log in either | |
| 15:29 | jcamins | That happened to me when I installed MySQL before MariaDB. |
| 15:29 | drojf | all very weird and using the mysql root pw reset wan't possible either |
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| 15:29 | drojf | it just works after commenting out the mariadb repo |
| 15:30 | i will try what it does when i switch to mariadb after koha is running | |
| 15:31 | kf | hey drojf :) |
| 15:31 | drojf | hola kf |
| 15:31 | gmcharlt | I think that explicitly intalling mariadb-server first, then koha-deps (from a blank slate) out to work as well |
| 15:36 | kf | hi gmcharlt :) |
| 15:36 | oleonard: around? | |
| 15:36 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:36 | kf | ooh can i ask you some css? :) |
| 15:37 | gmcharlt | hi kf |
| 15:37 | kf | I'd like to recolor the cart and list button for a new library, but not sure why it doesn't work what i do |
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| 15:52 | drojf | eythian: i think the problem is that koha-common depends on libmysqlclient18 and that gets sucked in from the mariadb repo if present. seems like it does not work well in a mysql environment. |
| 15:52 | eythian | that could be it. |
| 15:52 | drojf | looks like installing with mysql and then switching to mariadb worked fine |
| 15:52 | i'll try skipping mysql completely later | |
| 16:02 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10496 - CCSR theme OPAC tabs to not show correct active state <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]943cae573b056d3f4> |
| 16:13 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1298 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:16 | drojf | gmcharlt: you were right. installing mariadb-server, then koha works fine. as does using mysql-server and switching later. seems like problems only show up when you want to use mysql while you got the mariadb repo enabled -- which seems like a rather uncommon situation. |
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| 16:41 | * drojf | heads home |
| 16:44 | eythian | wahanui: this |
| 16:44 | wahanui | eythian: excuse me? |
| 16:45 | eythian | wahanui: this is the dawning of the age of aquarius. |
| 16:45 | wahanui | ...but this is <reply>... |
| 16:45 | eythian | now wahanui, this is the dawning of the age of aquarius. |
| 16:45 | no wahanui, this is the dawning of the age of aquarius. | |
| 16:45 | no, wahanui: this is the dawning of the age of aquarius. | |
| 16:45 | ... | |
| 16:45 | wahanui: this is the dawning of the age of aquarius. | |
| 16:45 | wahanui | ...but this is <reply>... |
| 16:46 | eythian | no wahanui, this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius. |
| 16:46 | this? | |
| 16:46 | wahanui | this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius. |
| 16:46 | eythian | there we go |
| 16:50 | jcamins | aquarius? |
| 16:50 | wahanui | Mystic crystal revelation and the mind's true liberation |
| 17:00 | * jwagner | looks around for a lava lamp.... |
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| 17:07 | mjk | hey there kohaphiles |
| 17:07 | does anyone know a way of batch-generating lots of koha-compatible sequential barcodes in owrd or something | |
| 17:08 | preprinted barcodes from a commercial vendor are overpriced and my attempts to create barcodes with koha have brought nothing but pain... | |
| 17:09 | jcamins | mjk: choose a barcode font, use Excel equations to create a list of lots of numbers, change the font to the barcode font you chose earlier, and print? |
| 17:10 | "Koha-compatible" doesn't make sense when talking about barcodes. What you need to be compatible with is your barcode scanner. | |
| 17:10 | kf | ie-------------------------------------------- |
| 17:12 | jcamins | But I will say, for what it's worth, I'd just spend the 3.7 cents per label. |
| 17:13 | druthb | kf++ |
| 17:14 | mjk | store-brand avery 5160-compatible blanks cost under 1 cent per label |
| 17:14 | kf | huh? |
| 17:15 | jcamins | mjk: I'm not saying it's not way less expensive. I'm saying having barcoded libraries, I'd consider the additional expense worth it. |
| 17:15 | But, as I said, it's easy to generate the barcodes. Excel will generate a list, and then you can just use mail merge to print them. | |
| 17:15 | mjk | my library is a science fiction club. every large expenditure comesbefore the business meeting and needs to be approved. |
| 17:16 | jcamins | Actually, if you're good with Excel you can probably even print them directly out of Excel. |
| 17:16 | I am not very good with spreadsheet software so I couldn't say how, but that seems like a logical thing for it to be possible to do. | |
| 17:17 | mjk | even getting permission to install koha on a spare computer and start cataloging was like pulling teeth. arguing that we shopuld spend over $500 on labels just to make my life easier won't fly |
| 17:18 | jcamins | Fair enough. |
| 17:19 | mjk | i'm just lucky another member saw the value of the project and donated an old bluetooth barcode scanner... |
| 17:25 | * druthb | is so old, she doesn't think of bluetooth as "old," remembering when serial scanners were the only way there was. |
| 17:25 | jcamins | druthb: I apparently am so old too. |
| 17:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1298: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1298/ |
| 17:26 | Owen Leonard: Bug 10496 - CCSR theme OPAC tabs to not show correct active state | |
| 17:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10496 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , CCSR theme OPAC tabs to not show correct active state |
| 17:26 | druthb | bah. Youngster! |
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| 17:28 | * druthb | raises an eyebrow. |
| 17:28 | druthb | Drive-by nengarding. |
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| 18:28 | kf | bye all |
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| 20:40 | drojf | it's no fun reading the log if you people don't talk |
| 20:46 | gmcharlt | heh |
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| 20:50 | pianohacker | heh heh |
| 20:50 | martian523 | hi I have ver 3.10, just wondering if there's a way to merge multiple authorities consisting of same information |
| 20:55 | pianohacker | there is misc/migration_tools/merge_authority.pl, but you need to manually give it two authids to merge |
| 20:58 | rangi | :( |
| 20:58 | http://durham.io/2013/07/09/se[…]ff-hillandale-rd/ | |
| 20:58 | tcohen | :( |
| 20:58 | pianohacker | that is unfortunate, yum is excellent |
| 20:59 | rangi | off topic, does anyone know if koha works with refworks? |
| 20:59 | martian523 | hmm...that's not really what i'm looking for |
| 20:59 | pianohacker | martian523: You could _try_ dumping your authority records, then reimporting them but with a match rule using bulkmarkimport.pl |
| 20:59 | drojf | :( |
| 20:59 | pianohacker | martian523: You'd have to manually relink the authorities afterwards though |
| 21:00 | well, link_bibs_to_authorities.pl | |
| 21:00 | rangi | martian523: there is a patch that i qaed recently to do it in the interface |
| 21:00 | wahanui | i guess link_bibs_to_authorities.pl is almost certainly not the right tool for the job. |
| 21:00 | rangi | not in 3.10.x tho |
| 21:00 | bag | rangi I think there is something in the JQuery library that deals with RefWorks |
| 21:00 | martian523 | so theres no click click click and "merge these authorities" tool |
| 21:00 | rangi | cool |
| 21:01 | martian523: not in 3.10.x in 3.14.x yes | |
| 21:01 | martian523 | o, then i should do an upgrade. =) |
| 21:01 | drojf | 3.14 will be here in half a year ;) |
| 21:01 | rangi | martian523: its not released yet :) |
| 21:01 | bug5202 | |
| 21:01 | bug 5202 | |
| 21:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records |
| 21:01 | rangi | that is the patch :)( |
| 21:02 | bag: thanks | |
| 21:02 | drojf | martian523: are you running a package installation of koha? |
| 21:03 | martian523 | hmm? |
| 21:03 | pianohacker | how did you install koha? |
| 21:03 | martian523 | the IT departement did |
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| 21:06 | martian523 | anyway, thanks! you gave me a lot of help already |
| 21:06 | drojf | you could, in theory, build your own debian package with 3.10 plus the patch that has the new function. depending on how important it is to you. |
| 21:06 | martian523 | i'll see if they can do the patch |
| 21:06 | drojf | but it is some work |
| 21:07 | and if you got an it department that has to be convinced to do it that might be another problem ;) | |
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| 21:13 | drojf | when i use the 'Tags' feature in bz, is there a way to put in a tag without triggering an email? |
| 21:26 | maximep | seth vidal is dead and almost all comments talk about the meaning of the words accident vs crime ? |
| 21:27 | rangi | maximep: never ever ever read the comments |
| 21:27 | maximep | like if it was on the comments of a blog post that they would decide |
| 21:27 | * wizzyrea | suspects that this is how geeks show grief |
| 21:27 | maximep | I was hoping for comments celebrating what the guy did |
| 21:27 | rangi | its my rule of thumb for the entire internet |
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| 21:27 | wizzyrea | yea, don't read the comments |
| 21:28 | maximep | well in the case of the death of Ryan Davis (of giantbomb gaming site), *all* comments were the best |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | it's a very analytical thing though, obsessing over "was it an accident or a crime" |
| 21:28 | drojf | i stil very much appreciate rangi telling me about the youtube comments extension for firefox that changes all comment text to herp derp |
| 21:28 | maximep | I guess programmers and linux people care about dumb details more |
| 21:28 | cait | hi #koha |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | hi cait |
| 21:28 | cait | :) |
| 21:28 | drojf | hi cait |
| 21:29 | rangi | hi cait |
| 21:29 | cait | hi drojf and rangi |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea: trea wants me to buy an txtrbeagle? | |
| 21:29 | trea | ^.^ |
| 21:30 | cait | oh there he is :) |
| 21:30 | trea | i'd buy one, but they want me to be in germany. strange. |
| 21:30 | pianohacker | drojf: That extension is amazing! More interesting than hiding them, but it helps curb my self-destructive impulse to read youtube comments |
| 21:31 | cait | trea: heh - do you want me to buy one for you? ;) |
| 21:31 | pianohacker | rangi: I'd say reddit is pretty much the only exception to that rule, and even that can take some subreddit filtering :P |
| 21:31 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:31 | some blogs are ok, where they curate | |
| 21:32 | drojf | pianohacker: i think reddit is unusable without throwing away a lot of subreddits nowadays |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 21:32 | rangi | im totally fine with blogs where comments are curated, its your blog, you can allow on it what you want |
| 21:32 | is the way i see it | |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | it's really only proper censorship if the state does it. |
| 21:32 | rangi | i dont let through a lot of the dumb comments on my blog |
| 21:33 | drojf | we have the fine tradition of shouting "CENSORSHIP OMGWTF!!11" when somebody deletes comments on his/her blog. why should people allow every idiot to comment on their own blogs? :/ |
| 21:33 | pianohacker | drojf: yeah, I'm only subscribed to about 3 of the default 20 |
| 21:34 | you can curate an _amazing_ information feed with reddit, but it takes digging | |
| 21:34 | drojf | wizzyrea: exactly |
| 21:34 | rangi | drojf: exactly |
| 21:34 | pianohacker | but then you find beautiful things like http://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/ |
| 21:34 | drojf | pianohacker: i have not used it much recently. i think i would have to dig deeper than i have time to do |
| 21:35 | pianohacker | it's worth the effort imo :) |
| 21:36 | drojf | the koha subreddit is not very active ^^ |
| 21:38 | maximep | a koha section on stackoverflow would be fun |
| 21:38 | rangi | there was a library section |
| 21:39 | tcohen | hi rangi |
| 21:39 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 21:39 | maximep | imo the format of stackoverflow where you upvote the best answer is more useful than searching on a ml |
| 21:39 | tcohen | hi drojf |
| 21:40 | drojf | maximep: as long as the voting is done by people that know what they are doing… |
| 21:40 | (unlike on reddit :P) | |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | well, the asker usually submits the answer that fixed it for them |
| 21:40 | upvotes | |
| 21:41 | on stackoverflow | |
| 21:41 | maximep | there's a pretty good WP extension that duplicates stackoverflow. I wonder if it would be cool on k-c.org |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | hm what is it called? |
| 21:41 | rangi | hi tcohen |
| 21:41 | maximep | except for the part that I rewrote half of it. trying to remember it's name |
| 21:41 | tcohen | i'm stuck |
| 21:42 | my battery life goes down, because of crappy support on the kernel | |
| 21:42 | (samsung to blame) | |
| 21:42 | i never used windows on a daily base in my whole life | |
| 21:42 | maximep | http://premium.wpmudev.org/pro[…]wers-plugin-lite/ |
| 21:43 | gmcharlt | aropos - https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bi[…]307&L=CODE4LIB#35 |
| 21:43 | er, apropos | |
| 21:43 | tcohen | and am thinking of using it to virtualize my dev toolbox |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | maximep: did you pay for the full version? |
| 21:45 | drojf | "…just like StackOverflow, Yahoo Answers…" it's really ridiculous to see these two next to each other :D |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | and what compelled you to rewrite half of it? |
| 21:45 | because those are not exactly inspiring statements of support ^.^ | |
| 21:46 | maximep | wizzyrea: I don't think so. My company never pays for anything |
| 21:46 | because it wasn't done at all to be customizable | |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | if the plugin were amazing I would pay the 9 bucks |
| 21:46 | maximep | and we had to add stuff to it |
| 21:46 | so would i | |
| 21:46 | * wizzyrea | checks to see if it's actually open source |
| 21:46 | maximep | the lite version is |
| 21:46 | well | |
| 21:46 | "open" | |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | everything we do is 100% GPL, so you can customize it as much as you want, we’ll even give you a hand! |
| 21:47 | open source doesn't mean "free" | |
| 21:47 | it just means open :) | |
| 21:47 | maximep | yes, that's why I wrote "open" after. free isn't open hehe |
| 21:47 | drojf | "If you liked Q&A Lite, you’ll love... Infinite SEO" sounds lie a threat |
| 21:47 | maximep | lol |
| 21:48 | drojf | s/lie/like |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | the resistance I feel we will come up against, with using something like q and a |
| 21:51 | is that nobody wants to check *another* forum. | |
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| 21:51 | wizzyrea | so in all likelihood, without extensive tending by someone, it won't actually ever get used |
| 21:52 | I could be wrong about that. | |
| 21:52 | maximep | only speaking from my experience, I don't use mailing lists |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | but a Koha user definitely gets the best exposure for issues by sending questions to the list |
| 21:52 | maximep | never did, never will. I don't even know how they work |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | mailing lists? |
| 21:52 | wahanui | mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | just like that :P |
| 21:52 | maximep | that's always been a problem with tons of projects |
| 21:53 | I never know who to reply to, always get confused about flow of the conversation | |
| 21:53 | 95% of messages seem to be reply text | |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | well you can browse the koha list through gmane or another web portal |
| 21:53 | that does threading | |
| 21:54 | see at the bottom of that page | |
| 21:54 | you can even reply there | |
| 21:54 | maximep | sure, that's what I use most of the time |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | and the replies go to the list |
| 21:54 | oh so you *do* use them | |
| 21:54 | :) | |
| 21:54 | maximep | but still, it's hard to find an answer to a question hidden in 12 replies |
| 21:55 | i'm suscribed to all koha digests of the ml | |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | yea, my thought is that you really need a combo of the lists + upvoting |
| 21:55 | maximep | but never answered anything |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | ugh digests are terrible. |
| 21:55 | rambutan | gmcharlt: apropos is a perfectly good Linux command that I never use because it takes me too long to figure out how to spell it |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | no wonder you're frustrated. |
| 21:56 | gmail is good for lists because it has the threaded view | |
| 21:56 | bad because spying. | |
| 21:56 | gmcharlt | rambutan: heh |
| 21:57 | maximep | hmmm the best would be a forum/ml/stackoverflow all combined |
| 21:57 | haha | |
| 21:58 | well hmmm there's probably a vanilla (forum) plugin for that | |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | now, if you could take the web version of the mailing lists, and add upvoting of answers to that |
| 21:58 | it would be a winner. | |
| 21:58 | then the mailing list users could continue doing that, and the people who like web forums could do that | |
| 21:58 | and they all see the same stuff. | |
| 21:58 | :P | |
| 21:59 | * wizzyrea | will be expecting your solution to that |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea | ;) j/k |
| 21:59 | maximep | I really like http://vanillaforums.org/discussions because it's usable as a forum, but you can use it as a mailing ling |
| 21:59 | *list | |
| 21:59 | add upvoting to that and it's perfect =) | |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 22:01 | maximep | maybe it's because I used forums for years before discovering ml |
| 22:01 | when I switched to linux | |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | could be. |
| 22:01 | probably it's just a preference :) | |
| 22:01 | don't need to have a reason to have feels | |
| 22:02 | maximep | like everything, once we get used to something, it's hard to learn something new |
| 22:02 | drojf | i'd prefer not to have discussions about why so many people downvoted xy. like, another live dvd |
| 22:03 | gmcharlt | maximep: yeah, the flipside is that a *lot* of librarians are very used to MLs |
| 22:03 | maximep | announcing a live cd isn't really a question and is better suited to mailing lists |
| 22:03 | mailing lists are the best for announcements | |
| 22:06 | drojf | trea: you can only use the beagle with an android smartphone because it requires a certain app to send books? :/ |
| 22:06 | trea | that's not a problem for me personally |
| 22:07 | drojf | it would be for me |
| 22:07 | pianohacker | drojf: no smartphone, or different platform? |
| 22:08 | drojf | different plattform. but i would also find it ridiculous if i had an android |
| 22:09 | pianohacker | removes a lot of complexity from the reader :) |
| 22:09 | jcamins | Alas, no cait. |
| 22:10 | drojf | • Store and read up to five books at a time … • 4GB internal memory |
| 22:10 | jcamins | drojf: you may know the answer to this: I was asked if there were public Z39.50 servers for the major German consortia. |
| 22:10 | drojf | ??? |
| 22:10 | jcamins | drojf: huh? |
| 22:10 | cjh | drojf: my bet is that some of that 4GB is used by something already, or the books are REALLY high-def :p |
| 22:11 | drojf | jcamins: i think you usually need an account. which you can get either by being a member or by just asking |
| 22:11 | but cait will know better | |
| 22:11 | cjh: biiig letters lol | |
| 22:11 | jcamins | Thanks. I'll ask cait tomorrow. |
| 22:12 | cjh | drojf: books in 1080p ! |
| 22:13 | drojf | oh no i broke my notebook power supply again. either i have to take soldering lessons or finally buy a new one |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | jcamins: irspy? |
| 22:13 | wahanui | irspy is a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See http://irspy.indexdata.com. |
| 22:13 | drojf | cjh: lol |
| 22:13 | cjh: on the 800xsomething screen. but in theory, it's great resolution ;) | |
| 22:14 | and a really fine gray scale. with gazillions of different grays | |
| 22:14 | cjh | heh |
| 22:14 | drojf | jcamins: looking for something specific? |
| 22:14 | cjh | marketing department worked hard on that. |
| 22:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that'd require me to know the names of the consortia. |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | you can't search by country |
| 22:15 | ? | |
| 22:15 | jcamins | drojf: no, I was asked if there were Z39.50 servers for the large consortia. |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | I thought you could |
| 22:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea: ooh, maybe. |
| 22:15 | Cool! Do you know, I never knew that. | |
| 22:16 | wizzyrea | but your point stands, you'd still possibly have to know the name of the consortia. |
| 22:16 | hehe | |
| 22:16 | highfive! | |
| 22:16 | wahanui | i heard highfive was o/*HIGHFIVE*o |
| 22:16 | wizzyrea | forget highfive |
| 22:16 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot highfive |
| 22:16 | wizzyrea | highfive is <reply> o/* HIGHFIVE *\o |
| 22:16 | drojf | trea: i did not know they sell the beagle for 20€ now. i could of course just buy a cheap android on top of that ;) |
| 22:17 | jcamins | Actually, I can recognize a lot of them, and at the very least there's HEBIS, KOBV, and GBV. |
| 22:17 | wizzyrea | yay I helped! |
| 22:17 | trea | i suppose you could drojf, if you felt the need. |
| 22:18 | drojf | jcamins: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliotheksverbund |
| 22:18 | trea: not really. but i should check dpavlin's blog if he hacked that thing by any chance .) | |
| 22:18 | :) | |
| 22:18 | jcamins | And I bet I can find someone who will tell me if there's one for SWB. :) |
| 22:18 | * trea | returns to useful work. |
| 22:19 | * drojf | got the implied label of unuseful work |
| 22:21 | drojf | jcamins: kobv says you have to ask per email. i think they made us an account at some point but i can't check right now http://www.kobv.de/en/library_[…]rofil_kobv_index/ |
| 22:21 | (and we are not a member AFAIK) | |
| 22:28 | jcamins: SWB lite unimarc+ISO 8859-1 sounds vaguely attractive | |
| 22:34 | jcamins | drojf: gee, thanks. |
| 22:35 | Now I need a super-stiff drink. | |
| 22:43 | * drojf | gives up on the power supply and goes to bed |
| 22:43 | drojf | good night #koha |
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| 23:23 | bag | @later tell druthb hey if you are around tonight I wanted to talk with you about some data ideas that I need help with - I'll be back in channel around 9pm my time |
| 23:23 | huginn` | bag: The operation succeeded. |
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| 23:57 | dcook | marcelr++ |
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