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| 00:02 | mrx joined #koha | |
| 00:08 | mrx | Hi, I'm quite new to koha. Setup an instance with name koha but I am trying to stage and eventually import lot of marc records in bulk using stage_file.pl but it is giving me error "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 360." I have added environment variable too PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib but to no avail, after copying C4 folder to |
| 00:08 | /etc/perl too. But still getting same error, any ideas? | |
| 00:10 | rangi | yep its not looking for the libs, but the koha-conf.xml file |
| 00:10 | how did you install with the tarball? | |
| 00:14 | mrx | basically did the web install, like after setting up database etc and through 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:16 | rangi | but you used the tarball eh? not the packages? |
| 00:16 | in which case you probably need to | |
| 00:16 | export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 00:16 | (or something similar) | |
| 00:17 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 00:17 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 32.9°C (8:07 PM EDT on July 07, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:17 | jcamins | It's after 8pm. That is altogether too hot for after 8pm. |
| 00:18 | Actually, that's altogether too hot in any situation, but especially this late. | |
| 00:18 | wizzyrea | you should probably use koha-shell |
| 00:19 | rangi | that only works with the packages doesnt it? |
| 00:20 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 00:20 | wizzyrea | oh I misread, I saw "instance named koha" and thought that meant package |
| 00:20 | my bad sorry | |
| 00:20 | jcamins | wizzyrea: oh, good point. Sounds like a package install. |
| 00:21 | rangi | yeah that's what i was trying to confirm ;-) |
| 00:22 | mrx | so I should set KOHA_CONF as env variable? |
| 00:22 | jcamins | mrx: you need to tell us how you installed Koha. |
| 00:23 | mrx | I pretty much followed process on this link: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rade_Instructions |
| 00:24 | wizzyrea | cool so packages :) |
| 00:25 | rangi | then koha-shell it is :) |
| 00:25 | wizzyrea | so something like sudo koha-shell koha |
| 00:25 | then do your commands to import | |
| 00:27 | mrx | oh, I never knew there is some koha-shell too. Thanks I'll give a shot and will be back shortly, thanks guys u r awesome |
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| 01:28 | mrx | hi guys, sorry back again. stage_file.pl is working in koha shell now but the match option to look for isbns is apparently not I'm using it like: perl stage_file.pl --file /home/mrx/338659.bib --match isbn |
| 01:31 | jcamins | mrx: you need to use the matcher ID. |
| 01:33 | mrx | thanks jcamins, from where I can find the matcher ID for isbn? |
| 01:34 | jcamins | mrx: it's listed on the administration page. |
| 01:56 | mrx | thanks jcamins. One more query for now, is there a way to update bulk biblographic records after importing to koha. Like adding a sepcific constant text to specific tags? |
| 01:57 | jcamins | No. |
| 01:57 | There are several patches to add that feature, but none have gotten in yet, so far as I know. | |
| 02:06 | mrx | hmmm ok and if someone wants to edit it the mainly tables to update are biblio and biblioitems or anyothers too? |
| 02:08 | jcamins | The sort answer is under no circumstances should you *ever* modify biblio or biblioitems directly. |
| 02:09 | *short | |
| 02:09 | The long answer is "FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND IN MORTAL FEAR OF ALL THAT IS AWFUL WHICH YOU WILL BRING DOWN UPON YOUR HEAD, DO NOT MODIFY BIBLIO OR BIBLIOITEMS DIRECTLY." | |
| 02:09 | ^^ capitals required | |
| 02:10 | The way to do that sort of bulk update is either export the MARC records and use marcedit (or your preferred editor), or write a script that uses the Koha API to do it. | |
| 02:12 | mrx | :) ok, got it. Can you plz point me to Koha API I should be looking into for this? |
| 02:12 | jcamins | perldoc? |
| 02:12 | wahanui | well, perldoc is at http://perldoc.koha-community.org for the C4 modules and more |
| 02:13 | jcamins | ^^ the perldoc is not always accurate, but it's something. |
| 02:17 | rangi | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]e8a29e577e2f5a918 |
| 02:17 | thats an example of modifying a bunch of records | |
| 02:17 | in this case, just fixing hte date in the 008 | |
| 02:20 | mrx | Oh thanks a bunch again guys, it is quite helpful. In case I run into some problems regarding writing such scripts, this is the right channel to ask or there is some other for development like queries? |
| 02:20 | rangi | this or the koha-devel mailing list |
| 02:21 | wizzyrea | what he said :P |
| 02:52 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 02:52 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 29.6°C (10:37 PM EDT on July 07, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 02:56 | druthb | @wunder 77063 |
| 02:56 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 26.9°C (9:55 PM CDT on July 07, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 02:57 | * druthb | wiggles her eyebrows at jcamins |
| 02:58 | druthb | Move to Houston; it's cooler. |
| 03:02 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 03:02 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (2:00 PM NZST on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 03:02 | wizzyrea | and a lovely, clear 12. |
| 03:19 | lists - is there a system preference that prevents borrowers from creating public lists, but not private ones? | |
| 03:19 | if there is, I'm not seeing it | |
| 03:41 | sunday-- | |
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| 05:47 | cait | good morning äkoha |
| 05:47 | #koha even | |
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| 06:43 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:49 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:50 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 06:50 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 06:50 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 20.4°C (8:42 AM CEST on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:50 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:50 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:51 | drojf | that looks like a more normal temperature for that time of the day |
| 06:53 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 07:06 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:15 | druthb | o/ |
| 07:19 | magnuse | \o |
| 07:21 | druthb | hi, magnuse! :D |
| 07:22 | magnuse | hiya druthb |
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| 07:23 | * druthb | hides |
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| 07:30 | christophe_c | hekko #koha |
| 07:31 | hello :) | |
| 07:31 | monday morning :-[ | |
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| 07:45 | kf | hi christophe_c :) |
| 07:45 | christophe_c | hello kf ;-) |
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| 08:15 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:15 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
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| 09:41 | vfernandes | hello :) |
| 09:41 | i'm having a problem with publication date search | |
| 09:41 | http://biblioteca.lnec.pt/cgi-[…]ha/opac-search.pl | |
| 09:42 | kf | is 008 in your data corectly filled out? |
| 09:42 | vfernandes | searching for "barragem de terra" (http://biblioteca.lnec.pt/cgi-[…]ort_by=relevance) there is 162 results |
| 09:43 | kf | you hae no 008 field in the record i am looking at |
| 09:43 | the search builds on the normalized year in 008 - Date1 | |
| 09:43 | vfernandes | kf no because the records where migrated from 2.2.8 to 3.10 |
| 09:43 | kf | you might want to look into a script to add those |
| 09:44 | i think rangi pointed to a script not long ago in the chat | |
| 09:44 | vfernandes | let me checkout if there is any script to that |
| 09:46 | rangi | do you have dates in 260c? |
| 09:46 | vfernandes | yes rangi |
| 09:46 | rangi | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]e8a29e577e2f5a918 |
| 09:46 | kf | the record iw as looking at had 260$c nicely populated |
| 09:46 | rangi | that will fix the 008 using the value from 260c |
| 09:47 | vfernandes | thanks rangi |
| 09:47 | I will try the script rigth now :D | |
| 09:48 | kf | vfernandes: you will have to tell your catalogers to keep an eye on the 008 then in the future - the search is really useful when you have good data there |
| 09:49 | vfernandes | kf: i will tell them to do that... |
| 09:51 | kf | i know it's annyoing... but it helps when you know why you fill it out (at least it helps me) :) |
| 09:51 | hope that made sense | |
| 09:53 | vfernandes | rangi after running I need to reindex all right? |
| 09:56 | rangi | nope |
| 09:57 | cos its doign modbiblio | |
| 09:57 | so will put a row in zebraqueue table | |
| 09:57 | so it will just do it the next cron job | |
| 09:59 | vfernandes | ohhh dumb question, I didn't even looked at the code... :D |
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| 10:17 | vfernandes | bye people... thanks for the help |
| 10:17 | eythian | hi |
| 10:19 | kf | hi eythian |
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| 11:20 | jcamins | kf: I can't figure out what bug 5943 actually does. |
| 11:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5943 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , Merging Authorities |
| 11:22 | jcamins | The code for merging authority records is bug 5202. |
| 11:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records |
| 11:23 | kf | jcamins: I have seen both - then noticed i had to pass the refactor patch first :) |
| 11:23 | jcamins | :) |
| 11:23 | kf | jcamins: did you see the bugs i found? not really nice... maybe worth a note in documentation if we can't fix |
| 11:23 | jcamins | kf: I did. Unfortunately, I suspect they are not fixable. |
| 11:24 | kf | args. could you maybe leave a note on the bugs? |
| 11:24 | jcamins | Sure. |
| 11:24 | kf | thx |
| 11:24 | have to go to a meeting now,b ack later | |
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| 11:35 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 11:35 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 24.9°C (7:23 AM EDT on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:35 | eythian | @wunder brighton, uk |
| 11:35 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 26.3°C (12:30 PM BST on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:35 | eythian | crikey. |
| 11:40 | jcamins | eythian: crikey indeed. |
| 11:43 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 11:43 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:43 | jcamins | Oooh. |
| 11:43 | * jcamins | is so jealous. |
| 11:43 | magnuse | :-) |
| 11:45 | * jcamins | refreshes the Fedex tracking page fifteen times. |
| 11:46 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:46 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 25.9°C (1:45 PM CEST on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
| 11:46 | kf | still here somehow |
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| 12:41 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:42 | magnuse | kia ora oleonard |
| 12:47 | oleonard | If you try to access public lists from the OPAC login page it says there are none, even if there are. |
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| 12:52 | jcamins | Yay! I have a new laptop! |
| 12:53 | oleonard | jcamins was at Starbucks and just went *yoink* and ran |
| 12:53 | jcamins | oleonard: lol |
| 12:55 | magnuse | lol |
| 12:55 | jcamins: what kind, i'm in the market for one too (soon) | |
| 12:55 | jcamins | magnuse: MacBook Air. |
| 12:56 | magnuse | ah, not my cup of tea |
| 12:56 | * magnuse | had to rethink a few times in order to be polite :-) |
| 12:56 | jcamins | Yeah, although I mostly use FOSS software, there are three programs that I absolutely require that don't run on *nix: QuickBooks, Photoshop, and InDesign. |
| 12:57 | And given a choice between Windows and OS X, I'll take the one that has make and vim. | |
| 12:57 | * druthb | has vim on her windoze box! |
| 12:58 | magnuse | yeah macosx > windows |
| 12:58 | jcamins | druthb: because you went out of your way to install it! |
| 12:59 | druthb | :P |
| 12:59 | jcamins | I've tried Gnucash, Gimp, and Scribus, but unfortunately they're not really viable alternatives. |
| 13:00 | eythian | Yeah, photoshop and indesign are too hard to use and probably won't read my existing files properly anyway. |
| 13:00 | jcamins | eythian: heh. |
| 13:01 | * magnuse | tried osx for a year or more, but could not get used to keyboard layout or menus-always-at-the-top-of-the-screen or how clicking on a partially hidden window worked |
| 13:01 | eythian | also whether maximise is going to do what you want or what it thinks you want. |
| 13:02 | jcamins | Maximize and switching windows doesn't work the same on OSX as the Ubuntu defaults? |
| 13:02 | I guess there was a good reason that I migrated my X configuration for eight years. | |
| 13:03 | magnuse | eythian: yeah! |
| 13:03 | eythian | No, in Ubuntu maximising a window maximises it. |
| 13:03 | jcamins | eythian: right, that's what it does in OSX too. |
| 13:03 | eythian | not last I looked, it would just probably make it bigger. |
| 13:04 | jcamins | Huh. |
| 13:04 | I guess I did have problems with Chrome not maximizing properly. I blamed Chrome since everything else maximizes the way it ought. | |
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| 13:08 | nengard | him everyone i'm in Iowa training a new koha library |
| 13:08 | druthb | Hi, Nicole! Hi, Iowa! |
| 13:08 | oleonard | Hi Iowa! |
| 13:09 | * oleonard | goes back to talking about how awesome Koha is and how busy he is making it better |
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| 13:10 | * oleonard | goes back to goofing off and complaining about computers |
| 13:10 | druthb | lol |
| 13:11 | oleonard | The thing that still bugs me about OSX even after several years of using it is the way "Home" and "End" work differently. |
| 13:11 | druthb | ^^ Yes, this. |
| 13:11 | "End", in particular, messes me up all the time. | |
| 13:11 | jcamins | Home and end? What are these things of which you speak? |
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| 13:11 | jcamins | Also, number pad, what is that? |
| 13:12 | eythian | I found it weird when I was doing some Java work a few years back that I could write stuff that worked both on windows and Linux the same, but OSX required a _lot_ of extra work to support. |
| 13:12 | * oleonard | rocks the number pad |
| 13:12 | jcamins | eythian: you know what happened the other day that was really weird? |
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| 13:12 | eythian | jcamins: hmm. I could probably make something up, but lets go with "no" :) |
| 13:13 | jcamins | Like "oh my goodness I've fallen through the rabbit hole weird." I tried to use a graph database written in Java on OS X and it Just Worked. |
| 13:13 | I had way more trouble getting it working on Linux. | |
| 13:13 | druthb | "The amazing thing is not how well the bear waltzes, but that the bear waltzes at all..." |
| 13:15 | eythian | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~e[…]les/head:/macsrc/ <-- I had to write/copy a bunch of extra code to talk JNI to handle OSX system integration. It was a real pain. |
| 13:16 | jcamins | druthb: that is a fair point about Java software generally, yes. |
| 13:17 | eythian | eh, I have no problem with Java in that respect, it tends to work just fine. |
| 13:22 | gerundio | hi everybody |
| 13:23 | just got a complaint about the fields showing up in the OPAC Details page | |
| 13:23 | oleonard | XSLT on or off gerundio? |
| 13:23 | gerundio | with OPACXSLTDetailsDisplay set to default |
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| 13:24 | gerundio | I was thinking on using our own XSLT to tweak the fields that show on the OPAC detail pages |
| 13:24 | can you tell me if it is translatable? | |
| 13:25 | I have 2 languages set on our Koha setup | |
| 13:25 | jcamins | You cannot change the fields using a translation, no. |
| 13:25 | You can change the field labels, though. | |
| 13:25 | gerundio | if I make one XSLT for each language the interface will show up correctly? |
| 13:26 | jcamins, my only concern is regarding the labels | |
| 13:26 | jcamins | It is supposed to, yes. |
| 13:26 | And I've certainly never had any problems when I've tested non-English translations. | |
| 13:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #148 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: FIXED) |
| 13:28 | gerundio | btw, what XSLT file is supposed the "default" value point to? |
| 13:29 | MARC flavour . "slim2OPACDetail.xsl"? | |
| 13:29 | jcamins | MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl for MARC21, UNIMARC2OPACDetail.xsl for UNIMARC. |
| 13:30 | Yeah. | |
| 13:30 | And the XSLT files are translated by the translation process. | |
| 13:30 | gerundio | so I'll just have to make sure they have the same name in the respective language dirs |
| 13:30 | ok, seems straightforward enough | |
| 13:31 | jcamins | You should probably change the PO files and use them to generate the translated XSLT files. That way when you upgrade you won't have to manually reconcile changes. |
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| 13:41 | gerundio | sorry, my connection dropped for awhile |
| 13:41 | jcamins, regarding your last statement "You should probably change the PO files and use them to generate the translated XSLT files. That way when you upgrade you won't have to manually reconcile changes." | |
| 13:42 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 13:42 | gerundio | I'm not expecting to change any labels |
| 13:42 | jcamins | That would be my recommendation. |
| 13:42 | Wait, you said that your only concer was regarding the labels? | |
| 13:42 | gerundio | just use the ones available through regular translation |
| 13:42 | if they are translatable as the rest of the OPAC interface | |
| 13:43 | jcamins | First question? |
| 13:43 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 13:43 | gerundio | and I understood they are, as long as I follow the procedure |
| 13:43 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 13:43 | gerundio | everything will as part of the translation |
| 13:43 | will work ^ | |
| 13:43 | jcamins | Oh, you hadn't run the translation yet at all? |
| 13:43 | gerundio | not with a custom XSLT |
| 13:44 | :) | |
| 13:46 | I found this PDF while googling for some info regarding these XSLT templates on koha: http://libill.hartford.edu/koh[…]ha_XSLT_howto.pdf | |
| 13:46 | is it a good starting point? | |
| 13:46 | jcamins | They don't use Koha, so I'd take anything it says with a grain of salt. |
| 13:50 | gerundio | is there any official document similar to this one? |
| 13:50 | jcamins | Not to my knowledge. |
| 13:51 | gerundio | ok, thanks for all your help jcamins++ |
| 13:51 | jcamins | You can definitely try following the instructions in that document. |
| 13:51 | Just be prepared for the probability that it might not be accurate for Koha. | |
| 13:53 | oleonard | In order for Bug 10206's TT plugin to work does the preference still have to be made available by Auth.pm? |
| 13:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add Koha TT Plugin |
| 13:57 | rambutan | @seen oak |
| 13:57 | huginn | rambutan: oak was last seen in #koha 2 days, 8 hours, 2 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Oak> @wunder islamabad |
| 13:57 | eythian | @wunder brighton, uk |
| 13:57 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 26.7°C (2:46 PM BST on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). |
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| 14:01 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10125: Babeltheque does not depend on OpacStarRatings. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]795d87b0b5934aa43> / Bug 10125: Babeltheque star image must use sprite <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]89ebb27162449cc5c> |
| 14:03 | druthb | @wunder 77063 |
| 14:03 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 24.9°C (9:02 AM CDT on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:03 | druthb | Hm. |
| 14:03 | @wunder 77098 | |
| 14:03 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 27.8°C (9:03 AM CDT on July 08, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:03 | druthb | ! |
| 14:03 | That's a big difference, for seven miles. | |
| 14:06 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:06 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #229: "rangi: relax, I signed it off :)" (added by wizzyrea at 08:59 PM, January 02, 2013) |
| 14:07 | druthb | @quote random |
| 14:07 | huginn | druthb: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
| 14:07 | druthb | hi, gmcharlt! |
| 14:07 | * gmcharlt | notes that the latest patch I pushed is by a new developer |
| 14:07 | gmcharlt | hi druthb! |
| 14:09 | oleonard | gmcharlt: In order for Bug 10206's TT plugin to work does the preference still have to be made available by Auth.pm? |
| 14:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add Koha TT Plugin |
| 14:10 | gmcharlt | oleonard: no; indeed, the existance of that plugin means that we can start taking those *out* of Auth.pm |
| 14:11 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #148: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/148/ |
| 14:11 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 10311 - Holds queue ignores item-level holds where only one items exists | |
| 14:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10311 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Holds queue ignores item-level holds where only one items exists |
| 14:11 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9519: DBRev 3.13.00.011 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4629fe0b2c5cf2500> / Bug 9519: fix code for Italian language search limiter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0174301d65d3d7c05> | |
| 14:12 | oleonard | gmcharlt: Okay, that's what I thought. I wonder if there's some other reason why it wouldn't work on the OPAC login page... |
| 14:15 | gmcharlt | oleonard: silly question -- you did do '[% USE Koha %]', right? |
| 14:17 | oleonard | Uh... obviously not a silly question. Working now :| |
| 14:20 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1295 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 14:30 | rambutan | did john fink previously work on koha? |
| 14:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10289: (follow-up) don't set cardnumber for test patron <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aa1b77e24589ae71c> / Bug 10289: (follow-up) wrap tests in transaction <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c8b000b1bdb13d1a8> / Bug 10289: UT: Reserves.t needs to create its own data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
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| 14:37 | pianohacker | good morning |
| 14:38 | oleonard | Hi pianohacker |
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| 14:39 | pianohacker | hey oleonard |
| 14:39 | wahanui | oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 14:39 | pianohacker | how's your monday? |
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| 14:44 | oleonard | My Monday has been productive so far |
| 14:45 | Finding bugs in master which are messing up my bootstrap theme | |
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| 14:46 | drojf | multidrojf |
| 14:47 | druthb | oooh... |
| 14:47 | two drojfs! | |
| 14:47 | * druthb | captures one. |
| 14:47 | drojf | but we are free range drojfs :O |
| 14:48 | druthb | oooh. |
| 14:48 | * druthb | provides a nice big open space for the captured drojf. |
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| 14:50 | drojf | lol |
| 14:50 | we will be back to one drojf once i tell bip it should listen on the external ip address ;) | |
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| 14:56 | druthb | aw! |
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| 15:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:05 | drojf | has anyone else had the status 200 problem with git bz again? |
| 15:05 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5858: Followup for INSERT IGNOREs in marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1916138b6317122da> / Bug 5858: update default MARC21 framework to April 2013 revision <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]db132c81cf5127117> |
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| 15:10 | tcohen | not me drojf |
| 15:11 | drojf | just tried it again, still the same :( |
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| 15:15 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10522: fix Javascript error on acquisition pages: YAHOO is not defined <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0d43d97831e322dc> |
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| 15:21 | drojf | yay, it works |
| 15:24 | tcohen | how did u do ? |
| 15:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10448: can now change framework after duplicating bib record <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a7496372fb34c798f> / Bug 4907: make 'Organize by' filter in suggestions reflect selected option <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0dfcc19bc9b51664> |
| 15:34 | maximep | anyone knows who I would need to talk to, to completly replace fr-CA-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po by fr-FR-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po in the 3.12 section of translate.k-c.org ? |
| 15:34 | jcamins | bgkriegel is the Translation Manager. |
| 15:34 | kf | yep |
| 15:34 | i wrould drop him an email | |
| 15:35 | and you can do that when you are the admin of a language too | |
| 15:35 | do you have permission to upload files to pootle? there is an overwrite option there | |
| 15:35 | maximep | doesn't seem to work on the -staff file |
| 15:35 | maybe too many changes | |
| 15:35 | worked on the 3 others | |
| 15:35 | kf | it takes a loong time |
| 15:35 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1295: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1295/ |
| 15:35 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10125: Babeltheque star image must use sprite | |
| 15:35 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10125: Babeltheque does not depend on OpacStarRatings. | |
| 15:35 | * Sonia LEMAIRE: Bug 9519: fix code for Italian language search limiter | |
| 15:35 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9519: DBRev 3.13.00.011 | |
| 15:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10125 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Babeltheque star image must use sprite |
| 15:35 | kf | and you have to check the overwrite checkbox |
| 15:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9519 trivial, P5 - low, ---, sonia.lemaire, Pushed to Master , Wrong language code for Italian in the advanced search language limitations |
| 15:36 | maximep | hmmm I don't have the overwrite checkbox |
| 15:36 | only merge and add as suggestions | |
| 15:37 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #149 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:37 | maximep | what's weird is that I tried only doing 1 change and uploading with Merge |
| 15:37 | and it didnt merge that 1 change | |
| 15:40 | kf | gmcharlt: wondering about your opinion on 9673 :) it seems to be a pet peeve of yours judging from the mail a few weeks ago :) |
| 15:40 | maximep | thx, will send him an email to bgkriegel |
| 15:40 | kf | maximep: yep best do that :) |
| 15:41 | jcamins | bug 9673 |
| 15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Track when items are marked as lost or withdrawn |
| 15:41 | maximep | and I will keep dreaming koha has an usable translation system :/ |
| 15:41 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:42 | kf | maximep: it's not that bad really, the problem is koha being so huge. |
| 15:42 | maximep | not that bad ? haha |
| 15:43 | pianohacker | kf: Just saw comments on bug 10320. Will fix JS strings and stars, but I don't think there's a way to unit-test the new module besides use_ok |
| 15:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
| 15:43 | oleonard | maximep: I think kf has enough translation experience to be able to express a valid opinion. |
| 15:43 | drojf | hrm. i get an internal server error when i try to log into the staff client. i could do the database update before just fine |
| 15:44 | on master | |
| 15:44 | kf | pianohacker: a use_ok is a valid start :) |
| 15:44 | jcamins | maximep: look on the good side... if we used one of the "better" tools, Koha 3.12.0 would probably have been released without any translations at all. |
| 15:44 | maximep | yeah, that's always the problem |
| 15:44 | way too late to start fresh | |
| 15:44 | pianohacker | fair enough. I'll throw that in. Cool if I append a followup patch, rather than resubmitting with all the sign-offs? |
| 15:45 | jcamins | I was less than ten minutes from pulling the French translation and announcing that due to problems in the translation process, Koha 3.12.0 would not be available in French. |
| 15:45 | kf | pianohacker: definitely do a follow up |
| 15:45 | pianohacker | cool. |
| 15:45 | gmcharlt | kf: heh -- I'm a bit torn on that one |
| 15:45 | kf | gmcharlt: it#s your chance to force kyle to fix it :P |
| 15:46 | oleonard: sorry about 5766 btw... | |
| 15:46 | oleonard: i know you asked me if that was a good idea and would work | |
| 15:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5766 - Add configuration for excluding articles from DataTables sorting <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5bbfe3cd18cd8967d> |
| 15:46 | kf | and it does work - just we might want to do a bit mre |
| 15:47 | oleonard | kf: You needn't apologize since gmcharlt pushed it anyway :) |
| 15:47 | kf | yay gmcharlt :) |
| 15:48 | maximep | anyway, ranting about stuff never helps anyone, so /me shuts up |
| 15:48 | kf | yep, fixing stuff is more productive ;) |
| 15:49 | and now i go for dinner :) if i can dray my coworker awy from her computer that is | |
| 15:49 | there are people worse than me... hard to believe... :) | |
| 15:49 | jcamins | kf: that's rich, coming from you! |
| 15:49 | druthb | :P |
| 15:49 | kf | :P |
| 15:49 | bye all :) | |
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| 15:49 | gmcharlt | g'night! |
| 15:49 | too slow! | |
| 15:54 | * pianohacker | is having a monday morning thoughts like treacle moment |
| 15:54 | pianohacker | cait and kf are two different people, right? :) |
| 15:54 | drojf | firefox-- |
| 15:54 | pianohacker | firefox++ |
| 15:54 | sorry, reflex | |
| 15:55 | eythian | pianohacker: kf is Katrin. |
| 15:55 | pianohacker | right |
| 15:55 | drojf | when restarting the browser fixed an "internal server error" for koha, something is sucky about ff |
| 15:56 | eythian | unless it had cached it, that doesn't sound like a firefox issue. |
| 15:56 | jcamins | drojf: are you using nginx? |
| 15:56 | drojf | i cleared the cache and reloaded the page. did not work. i started nightly instead of whatever that old thing in debian is and my koha was back |
| 15:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Updating history and about page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dcdb0642a29fcbe6d> |
| 15:56 | drojf | jcamins: no apache. i think. heh good question |
| 15:57 | apache | |
| 15:57 | * eythian | hands drojf a sack of commas to use when it might make things clearer. |
| 15:58 | drojf | nah they, confuse the, hell out of, people |
| 15:59 | * eythian | takes the sack back for contract violation. |
| 15:59 | pianohacker | ,,,,, |
| 15:59 | crap, vim just wiped my home partition | |
| 15:59 | why'd I put that mapping in there? | |
| 15:59 | drojf | anyway i completely, forgot what i was planning to do with the running, koha |
| 15:59 | rambutan | koha. |
| 16:04 | jcamins | pianohacker: seriously? |
| 16:07 | pianohacker | jcamins: of course not :) |
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| 16:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #149: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/149/ |
| 16:27 | * Galen Charlton: bug 6281: add test case for sorting LC call numbers correctly | |
| 16:27 | * Galen Charlton: bug 6281: introduce LC::CallNumber::LC for sorting LC call numbers | |
| 16:27 | * Galen Charlton: bug 6281: add Library::CallNumber::LC as a required Perl dependency | |
| 16:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6281 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Bug in LCC sort routine |
| 16:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1296 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 16:52 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 16:53 | I have a question about dependencies. | |
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| 16:54 | mtompset | If I sudo apt-get install koha-common, mysql-server is not installed. |
| 16:54 | If I sudo apt-get install koha-deps koha-perldeps, then mysql-server is installed. | |
| 16:54 | Is that correct? | |
| 16:55 | pianohacker | I'd say so. It isn't uncommon for the MySQL server to be on a separate machine |
| 16:55 | forced installation of daemons makes sysadmins grumpy | |
| 16:55 | mtompset | true, pianohacker. |
| 16:55 | but if I am doing a git install, wouldn't I possibly want my mysql-server on a separate machine too? | |
| 16:56 | pianohacker | true. the koha-deps package is pretty optional, though |
| 16:56 | easy enough to install its separate components manually | |
| 16:57 | I did for mine, actually :) | |
| 16:58 | mtompset | Hmmm... i suppose i should look at what is in koha-deps. |
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| 16:59 | mtompset | i'm in the midst of shortening the Ubuntu git isntructions. |
| 16:59 | Just want to get it nice. :) | |
| 17:02 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:03 | mtompset | Do you know of a nice way to take a patch generated from a git install and apply it to a package install? |
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| 17:14 | tcohen | mtompset: koha-deps is not advertised for general use I'd say |
| 17:14 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 17:16 | So, do you think the Ubuntu git instructions should say koha-deps, or list out the dependencies individually? | |
| 17:20 | tcohen | there shouldnt be any ubuntu git instructions to start |
| 17:20 | packages + source | |
| 17:21 | speaking of deps, i'd stick with koha_perl_deps.pl | |
| 17:21 | (for the instructions at least) | |
| 17:24 | mtompset | The instructions to remove tarball are drastically different than git. |
| 17:25 | tcohen | hmm, never saw them, sorry |
| 17:25 | mtompset | Should upgrade and removal instructions be included with the install instructions? |
| 17:26 | Or perhaps I should go back to working on bug 459? | |
| 17:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , No uninstall script |
| 17:29 | pianohacker | a three-digit bug? ambitious |
| 17:30 | tcohen | i think instructions should provide simple and plain install method targeted for non-tech people, using packages, and the standard tarball distribution |
| 17:31 | they should be on the front page | |
| 17:31 | mtompset | So a mega instruction set with a skip to step X for the packages folks? |
| 17:31 | tcohen | special cases (using git, external DB) should be put as links |
| 17:31 | i agree with having two different wiki pages (packages / sources) | |
| 17:32 | using git is targeted for people developing, is pretty much similar to using tarball | |
| 17:32 | except that people should know what are they doing checkout of | |
| 17:33 | and talking about INSTALL.* files, they should target the specific revision they ship with | |
| 17:33 | * gmcharlt | would posit that the existance of Debian packages has obviated much of the motivation for bug 459; the appearance of a stable set of RPMs for the RHishes would further do so |
| 17:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , No uninstall script |
| 17:33 | mtompset | gmcharlt: assuming they do a package install, yes. |
| 17:34 | tcohen | people messing with git to get a koha release should know what they're doing |
| 17:34 | gmcharlt | mtompset: right, but that's the point |
| 17:34 | mtompset | if they have done a tarball or git install, not quite. |
| 17:34 | gmcharlt | and if for some reason, you must install from tarball, the "single" installation mode makes it easy to know exactly where all of the Koha bits are |
| 17:35 | ditto for a dev-mode install | |
| 17:36 | mtompset | but most people chose standard, didnt' they for tarballs? |
| 17:36 | gmcharlt | to be clear, I'm not saying that bug 459 shouldn't be worked on, but I do think that it is also a valid choice to leave uninstallation to the packagers |
| 17:37 | mtompset | That's why my code that I have hacked up thus far, actually tells the person to do it the proper packages way. |
| 17:37 | tcohen | gotta run mtompset, #koha |
| 17:39 | mtompset | Does single install in the users home directory? |
| 17:39 | I have NEVER tried single. | |
| 17:39 | I heard it was potentially busted. | |
| 17:40 | gmcharlt | mtompset: can't speak to whether it's currently working, but yes, the idea is that it would install in a single directory (and yes, by default, somewhere based in the user's home directory) |
| 17:40 | mtompset | I should try that some time. |
| 17:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1296: SUCCESS in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1296/ |
| 17:45 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10289: UT: Reserves.t needs to create its own data | |
| 17:45 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10289: (follow-up) wrap tests in transaction | |
| 17:45 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10289: (follow-up) don't set cardnumber for test patron | |
| 17:45 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 5858: update default MARC21 framework to April 2013 revision | |
| 17:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10289 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , UT: Reserves.t needs to create its own data |
| 17:45 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5858: Followup for INSERT IGNOREs in marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql |
| 17:45 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10522: fix Javascript error on acquisition pages: YAHOO is not defined | |
| 17:45 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4907: make 'Organize by' filter in suggestions reflect selected option | |
| 17:45 | * David Cook: Bug 10448: can now change framework after duplicating bib record | |
| 17:45 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 5766 - Add configuration for excluding articles from DataTables sorting | |
| 17:45 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Updating history and about page | |
| 17:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Update default MARC21 framework to Update No. 16 (April 2013) |
| 17:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10522 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Javascript error on acquisition pages: YAHOO is not defined | |
| 17:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4907 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Suggestions "organize by" menu doesn't reflect current choice | |
| 17:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10448 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Changing framework when cataloguing clears all fields | |
| 17:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add configuration for excluding articles from jQuery table sorter | |
| 17:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page | |
| 17:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1297 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:54 | mtompset | gmcharlt: What is the proper way to add a dependency? |
| 17:55 | (e.g. new patch uses Crypt::CBC, Crypt::Rijndael) | |
| 17:59 | gmcharlt | mtompset: patch against C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm |
| 17:59 | pianohacker | oleonard: Is the only way to show star-ratings using inputs and jquery.ratings.js? |
| 18:00 | mtompset | So the packager (e.g. eythian) would be responsible for translating that into debian/control? |
| 18:00 | oleonard | pianohacker: The other example is the Babeltheque one |
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| 18:06 | mtompset | By the way, greetings, oleonard rambutan gmcharlt. :) |
| 18:06 | rambutan | hi hi |
| 18:07 | gmcharlt | mtompset: yeah, you can assume that the packagers or others will take care of following up once a new dep has been added |
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| 18:57 | duplicate | hello! |
| 18:57 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha -- duplicate , etc. :) |
| 18:58 | duplicate | Does anyone know how to merge 'multiple' duplicated bibs with items in one go? (i used the list options, but it is a bit painful with 1000 records) |
| 18:59 | I did some googling, came accross and old thread from 2008, not sure whether that is still valid http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]os-td3066000.html | |
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| 19:03 | jcamins | duplicate: you could look and see if there are any relevant scripts here: http://gitorious.org/+catalyst[…]migration-toolbox but so far as I know there is no existing functionality for that. There is a patch adding the ability to merge multiple bib records at once, but that'll be manual still, and isn't in Koha yet. |
| 19:06 | duplicate | Hm... doesn't seems like.... |
| 19:06 | but thanks jcamins. | |
| 19:11 | pug | Hi jcamins |
| 19:12 | remember .. you saved my life last time I was here?! :) | |
| 19:14 | oleonard | jcamins is a master of the virtual Heimlich maneuver |
| 19:14 | druthb | lol |
| 19:15 | pug | lol |
| 19:16 | well, I was about to start UI customizations by changing template code -- he walked me through why use js instead | |
| 19:21 | jcamins | pug: ah yes... that was very good advice. |
| 19:22 | pug | yeah .. after some time on koha - i see sure it was! |
| 19:22 | so now Im getting stuff done through js/jquery | |
| 19:23 | but i do wonder.. dont the class names, div ids etc. change at all? | |
| 19:23 | jcamins | pug: not as much as the templates. |
| 19:24 | pug | hmm.. well I guess then Ill go on .. |
| 19:25 | I do see some redundancies (information wise) in the UIs .. whats the best way to post jqeury changes to the community? | |
| 19:25 | jcamins | jquery library? |
| 19:25 | wahanui | jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
| 19:25 | jcamins | ^^ ask and ye shall receive |
| 19:25 | pug | yeah I saw that one.. so if I wish to suggest additions? I just add to the wiki? |
| 19:25 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 19:26 | pug | ok - sounds good - thanks |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Put your name in so that you'll get credit. |
| 19:26 | And fame. | |
| 19:26 | drojf | and cookies |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Lots of fame comes with that sort of script. |
| 19:26 | pug | well I guess around here Im short of all of that.. so I guess id do that too :) |
| 19:27 | jcamins | :) |
| 19:27 | pug | any pointers on how to host multiple installations ? |
| 19:27 | oleonard | Cookies yes, but only the kind for which virtual Heimlich maneuvers are effective. |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Use packages. |
| 19:28 | pug | Im on ubuntu .. so I install the same package in different directories? |
| 19:28 | drojf | you install the same package and all just works |
| 19:28 | jcamins | No, just install the package. |
| 19:28 | drojf | if it's a recent ubuntu |
| 19:28 | jcamins | No directories. |
| 19:29 | packages? | |
| 19:29 | wahanui | i heard packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 19:29 | jcamins | ^^ follow those instructions |
| 19:29 | drojf | and then have a look at what magical things the packages can do http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 19:29 | pug | ok - i was thinking I use ubuntu's apt-get to get koha-common |
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| 19:30 | pug | drojf - thanks a nice link .. thanks |
| 19:31 | drojf++ | |
| 19:31 | jcamins .. I didnt exactly understand .. | |
| 19:32 | So I use deb packages .. and install them 2 times in 2 separate directories - to get 2 instances? | |
| 19:32 | jcamins | pug: follow the instructions I pointed out. You will be installing a single copy of Koha into a standard location. |
| 19:34 | pug | ok - So I guess by that I create multiple db instances, using the same codebase (installed by the package) |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Right. |
| 19:34 | No. | |
| 19:34 | You install packages only once. | |
| 19:34 | Those answers were in reverse order, of course. | |
| 19:34 | pug | Yeah, yeah .. got that part |
| 19:35 | I was in a situation where I wanted to use separate codebases .. due to customizations | |
| 19:35 | drojf | does it smell like it's getting more complicated in here? |
| 19:36 | pug | :) Im sorry if that seems to be the case- I was avoiding the VirtualBox learning curve |
| 19:37 | drojf | or maybe: what kind of customizations? :) |
| 19:37 | pug | its basically 3 different levels/types of UI customizations -- |
| 19:38 | More of taking functionality off, to make things Very easy to use - | |
| 19:39 | So I think I take it as a given, that its not a good idea, to try to run multiple codebases on the same OS ? | |
| 19:40 | drojf | depending on what customizations you are planning you might not need to touch the code at all |
| 19:40 | jcamins | pug: I'd recommend against running multiple codebases. |
| 19:40 | pug | I need to make changes unfortunately -- thats a given |
| 19:41 | jcamins - ok thanks jcamins++ | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | pug: I'd recommend using separate environments, then. |
| 19:41 | Containers, whatever. | |
| 19:41 | pug | Id then go ahead and do it with virtualization |
| 19:41 | containers? | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | lxc. |
| 19:41 | Virtualization. | |
| 19:41 | Whichever way you like. | |
| 19:41 | pug | yeah yeah .. thats what Id do I think then |
| 19:42 | jcamins | And generate custom packages for production deployment. |
| 19:43 | pug | My plan is - since its just a jquery file now -- for the most part - I can just patch the changes to the package. Makes sense? |
| 19:43 | i.e. patch the changes on the production server. | |
| 19:43 | jcamins | No! |
| 19:43 | Don't do it! | |
| 19:43 | * jcamins | hides under the desk. |
| 19:44 | pug | really?! .. ill keep breaking things? |
| 19:44 | jcamins | You'll need to do a security update, and all your customizations will be gone. |
| 19:45 | pug | ah yes .. |
| 19:45 | k -- let me do my homework, and come back with better questions :) | |
| 19:45 | its quite late here in India .. so bfn | |
| 19:45 | rangi | local patches are punishing your future self |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Yeah, but better to make the changes in git. |
| 19:46 | pug | ok rangi - rangi++ |
| 19:46 | jcamins | If you insist on self-flagellation, use git. |
| 19:46 | rangi | if you like waking up in a cold sweat cos you just realised you deleted 170 hours work, local patches are the ticket :) |
| 19:46 | jcamins | rangi: well put! |
| 19:46 | drojf | if it is only jquery… have you verified it won't work with koha's jquery capabilities? |
| 19:46 | rangi | id use git branches to track my code bases and build packages to deploy |
| 19:47 | and yes you may be able to just do it all in opacuserjs | |
| 19:47 | and intranetuserjr | |
| 19:47 | js | |
| 19:47 | even | |
| 19:47 | then its stored in the db and survives updates | |
| 19:47 | pug | yeah , im doing the dev in git .. |
| 19:48 | There is a way to post js file through the UI? | |
| 19:48 | drojf | heh |
| 19:48 | pug | like css? |
| 19:48 | drojf | you got so much to learn :P |
| 19:48 | pug | (did I miss this?!) |
| 19:48 | drojf | have you not been on that jquery wiki page for koha? |
| 19:48 | that is all to be used in a sypref | |
| 19:49 | pug | yeah i indeed had! |
| 19:49 | ok guys - thanks --- | |
| 19:50 | let me do my homework and come back -- | |
| 19:50 | Dont wanna waste anyone's time on things that can be found easily | |
| 19:50 | thanks | |
| 19:50 | bye? | |
| 19:51 | drojf | i like to waste my time :) |
| 19:52 | pug | suits me :) |
| 19:52 | bbye! Thanks again! | |
| 19:53 | drojf | bye pug |
| 19:55 | a young, aspiring koha user, full of plans for the future. local customizations, git installations, custom packages. but no -- it all just works. all dreams, destroyed. | |
| 19:56 | * drojf | giggles madly |
| 19:57 | oleonard | See you later #koha |
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| 20:59 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 21:02 | pianohacker | yo wizzyrea |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | do I have a new calendar patch to look at? |
| 21:02 | holiday... thingie | |
| 21:04 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: Ah, not yet, trying to resolve issues on another patch |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | all good :) just checking |
| 21:04 | pianohacker | thanks for testing, as always |
| 21:05 | btw, did you apply bug 10320's patches before applying bug 10486's? I forgot to put it in the bug, but there is a dependency | |
| 21:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
| 21:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC | |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | rangi pointed that out to me |
| 21:05 | I still had problems with the 2nd one of that series | |
| 21:08 | HOWEVER - I was trying to do something that may not be technically possible. | |
| 21:09 | or easily possible, I'm sure it's possible, depending on how long I want to spend on it :) | |
| 21:09 | pianohacker | huh, ok. What would that be? :) |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | mash together the federated searching and the bootstrap opac |
| 21:10 | pianohacker | ... ummm that might work |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | it was a bit messy when I tried :) |
| 21:11 | pianohacker | did it work with bad formatting? You would need to copy the externalsearch.js file to the bootstrap theme |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 21:11 | there were a lot of template conflicts | |
| 21:12 | pianohacker | makes sense |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 21:12 | pianohacker | we really need to improve the fallback mechanism if we're going to add a third theme |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | well I think the idea is that |
| 21:12 | ccsr will go away | |
| 21:12 | and bootstrap will replace it | |
| 21:12 | pianohacker | oh, okay |
| 21:12 | rangi | probably prog too |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 21:13 | pianohacker | nice! Less work |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | much :) |
| 21:13 | pianohacker | more pretty |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | ccsr already does pretty good fallback |
| 21:13 | pianohacker | best tradeoff ever |
| 21:13 | yeah, most things work, just a few small hoonies to fix up with most OPAC patches | |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | yea anything that touches the header includes :/ |
| 21:14 | (among others) | |
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| 21:51 | rangi | cait!! i need you!! |
| 21:51 | cait | you do? |
| 21:51 | cjh | heh |
| 21:51 | cait | what for? |
| 21:51 | cjh | morning cait :) |
| 21:51 | cait | morning cjh :) |
| 21:51 | rangi | can you please test something for me on master |
| 21:51 | cait | you know it's nine minutes to midnight here? :) |
| 21:51 | but probably yes, if it doesn't take too long :) | |
| 21:52 | cjh | hahaha |
| 21:52 | rangi | with translations |
| 21:52 | cait | you will have to be a bit more specific |
| 21:52 | rangi | if you pick a language other than en, or what your browser has set |
| 21:52 | ie es | |
| 21:53 | as the only choice in the sysprefs | |
| 21:53 | does the opac and staff show es, or do they default to en | |
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| 21:53 | rangi | i think (im 99% sure) that if you dont have a cookie set, and your browser isnt sending it, it drops to en in master |
| 21:54 | cait | hm i will have to test that |
| 21:54 | give me a few mins | |
| 21:54 | rangi | because it only checks the cookie and http env |
| 21:54 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: followup for 8133 that should fix your problem |
| 21:54 | rangi | we have a fix for it in that case |
| 21:55 | cait | k? |
| 21:55 | wahanui | i think k is there no other way to access it from another web browser |
| 21:55 | rangi | but id like confirmation first that im not mental ;) |
| 21:55 | cait | i just got home, give me a moment |
| 21:55 | rangi | ok thanks :) anyone else can play along too |
| 21:56 | pianohacker | cait and kf are the same person! Finally. Monday brain would not let that trickle through my skull |
| 21:56 | cait | who did you tell that???? |
| 21:56 | * cait | looks around |
| 21:56 | cait | my secret! |
| 21:56 | pianohacker | hahahahaha |
| 21:57 | rangi | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]abf62ac7e4fccbebb |
| 21:59 | wizzyrea | pianohacker: cool! |
| 22:01 | hmm Template process failed: plugin error - JavaScript: plugin not found at /home/liz/koha-src/koha/C4/Templates.pm line 132. | |
| 22:01 | pianohacker ^^ | |
| 22:01 | oh I need a dependency don't I | |
| 22:02 | pianohacker | yarp |
| 22:02 | libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl | |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 22:02 | squee | |
| 22:02 | pianohacker | worky? |
| 22:03 | wizzyrea | yep - testing properly now |
| 22:03 | ok so | |
| 22:03 | if this is supposed to set hours | |
| 22:03 | should there be an option for "every day" | |
| 22:04 | Event repeats every day? | |
| 22:05 | I suppose you can use events on a range | |
| 22:05 | and set it to 2099, if it's every day | |
| 22:05 | and then set your outliers manually... ouch. | |
| 22:05 | * wizzyrea | futzs about |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | Ahhh I see |
| 22:06 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: My guess was that most libraries would set a baseline-set of weekly events that give you your normal hours |
| 22:07 | then set outliers from there | |
| 22:07 | I'm not especially proud of the interface, the backend took more time than I thought it would | |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | right so if you have a library that's open 8 - 5 monday, 10 - 2 wednesday |
| 22:08 | you set up repeating weekly calendar entries | |
| 22:08 | with hours, for each day | |
| 22:08 | into eternity | |
| 22:09 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: yeah. There's no end date on the events, actually |
| 22:09 | wizzyrea | this makes sense. It will need to be given lots of examples in the docs |
| 22:09 | pianohacker | most of the repetition semantics are built on top of the old system, to make migration doable |
| 22:09 | wizzyrea | Example: Library with same hours 5 days a week |
| 22:09 | library with different hours open 3 days a week | |
| 22:09 | and so on | |
| 22:09 | pianohacker | yup |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | ah ok if you don't give it a to: date, then it goes on eternally |
| 22:10 | little things - will need to include a note that says "24 hour time" | |
| 22:11 | in theory it should be obvious because it defaults to 23:59 | |
| 22:11 | pianohacker | probably a good idea. I tried to hint at that from the default values, but an explicit note would be good |
| 22:11 | jinx :) | |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | but that's a followup and not a biggie |
| 22:12 | pianohacker | It had been to long since I added a crazy thing to the admin interface that needed some Owen™ brand UI polish :) |
| 22:12 | *too | |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | another thing that will need to be documented, is that if you ask for a range a date will have to be chosen as the to:date |
| 22:13 | otherwise nothing happens, and no error is produced | |
| 22:14 | "you specified a range but didn't give an end date. Wrong!" | |
| 22:15 | cjh | heh |
| 22:15 | pianohacker | "what are you doing. Stop. Seriously. Step awaaaaay from the admin interface" |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 22:16 | pianohacker | we could always make that the only error message for tools/* and admin/* |
| 22:16 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 22:17 | pianohacker | might as well make people besides the crazy ones that try to maintain them suffer |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | ok so I just did this: specified to date of 16-7-2013 set it as "open," picked "events repeated yearly on a range" |
| 22:19 | pianohacker | okay |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | sorry typo 2014 |
| 22:19 | so between today and 16-7-2014 | |
| 22:19 | it added an event on every day, I suppose that's working as intended | |
| 22:19 | I was just surprised by it | |
| 22:20 | * wizzyrea | tries it again |
| 22:20 | wizzyrea | because I might have done something nonsensical. |
| 22:20 | pianohacker | ah, okay. There should be a restriction on the end date |
| 22:21 | given the way it works, actually, it should be restricted to this year, after and including today | |
| 22:21 | no, wait | |
| 22:21 | I lie | |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | well... theoretically you are saying that every year you want this range of dates to have this property |
| 22:22 | right? | |
| 22:22 | so spanning the year might not make much sense? | |
| 22:23 | you're not going to say "every year for two years repeat this holiday" | |
| 22:23 | pianohacker | right. hmm |
| 22:23 | I'm not sure | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | like, if you are always closed dec 28 - jan 2 |
| 22:24 | you'd set jan 1-2 as a range | |
| 22:24 | and dec 28-31 as a range | |
| 22:24 | but in the same year | |
| 22:24 | and repeat them yearly | |
| 22:24 | pianohacker | either behavior could make sense; I'd say that restricting the date to a year from today would give the least surprising behavior |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | I suppose that's what I'm getting at |
| 22:24 | I was surprised at what happened | |
| 22:24 | because it added a lot more days than I expected | |
| 22:25 | and then to get out of it I had to remember what I had done | |
| 22:25 | so as to undo it | |
| 22:26 | i'm not trying to generate work for you I'm really not | |
| 22:27 | pianohacker | hahaha |
| 22:27 | well | |
| 22:27 | these are items for future todos :) | |
| 22:28 | my question to you is more whether it's up to par | |
| 22:28 | wizzyrea | it seems to work, yes :) |
| 22:29 | pianohacker | thanks much for testing :) The unit tests I added will, of course, make sure that it works as expected and without error in actual library situations |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | right |
| 22:30 | pianohacker | (that was only about 40% sarcasm) |
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| 22:33 | wizzyrea | what version of mock do we require? |
| 22:34 | pianohacker | 1.45 |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | ooo ubuntu only has 1.43 |
| 22:35 | that's unfortunate. | |
| 22:35 | pianohacker | yeah, same on debian testing |
| 22:40 | jcamins | If you have an older version, the mocked tests will be skipped. |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | yea, I'd rather run them though |
| 22:41 | pianohacker | dh-make-perl to the rescue! |
| 22:41 | If you can figure out the right flags | |
| 22:41 | and it doesn't spit out an incomprehensible error | |
| 22:41 | but to the rescue! | |
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| 22:58 | cait | good night all :) |
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| 22:58 | wizzyrea | gnite cait |
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| 23:23 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 23:27 | jcamins | Congratulations! |
| 23:34 | wizzyrea | oh yes congrats :) |
| 23:38 | rangi | oh yes congrats :) |
| 23:42 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 23:42 | Thank you :) | |
| 23:47 | pianohacker | good night #koha |
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