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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | mtompset | druthb: considering that before no one thought about this, I'd like to get it right. |
| 00:01 | druthb | My assertion stands. There are a whole bunch of good tools for cooking random tokens, and they all seem to work just fine on sites way, way busier than a library catalog is likely to be. |
| 00:01 | mtompset | can you point me at one. I rather trust something that works well than making my own. |
| 00:03 | druthb | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/random |
| 00:04 | http://www.itworld.com/nlsunixrandom070531 | |
| 00:06 | mtompset | I was reading a bug report on rand() which made it sound like it only had a 32768 upper limit on some OS's. |
| 00:07 | http://www.economist.com/blogs[…]/dc/dangerofdeath | |
| 00:07 | I like the asteriod impact one at the bottom of the graph. :) | |
| 00:09 | druthb | I've never had a problem with rand(), in quite a few instances of using it for just this sort of thing. take rand(), multiply by oh, 10^10 or so, and then take abs(). Or else take a 11 char substr, s/\.//, and you have a herkin long number |
| 00:11 | mtompset | why not substr($v,-11,11)? ;) |
| 00:11 | druthb | If you just use rand(), without a param, the odds of it producing an int on its' own are quite tiny. if you take a substr starting with 0, you'll get 1 to 10 digits, with a *very* tiny chance of repetition during the same boot cycle...small enough that I totally wouldn't worry about it. |
| 00:13 | There really is no such thing as "truly random." There are things we don't get (or don't have the patience to do) the math for, but they're not really random. What you're really looking for in this problem is "random enough to not have to worry about a repeat any time soon." Once you define "any time soon", you've defined the problem, really. | |
| 00:14 | if "any time soon" is, say, 1 second, then you could use the last digit of a seconds counter, and smirk happily and go on about your business. | |
| 00:15 | mtompset | I would say anytime soon, worst case for me, is 2 minutes. |
| 00:15 | druthb | Ten digits worth of rand() is going to be way, way plenty, then. |
| 00:15 | mtompset | because by then there would be a timeout on the webpage. :) |
| 00:16 | druthb | (unless you're twitter. Then I'd say go for twenty.) |
| 00:16 | (you're not twitter, so ten is plenty and a half.) | |
| 00:16 | * druthb | spent a whole semester on crap like that in Compiler Design, back in the 80s. It made her head hurt a lot. |
| 00:16 | mtompset | perhaps I have random unique id envy? |
| 00:17 | druthb | Cleverness envy. And yes, it is like that. |
| 00:18 | * druthb | , being female, is immune to that. |
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| 00:20 | * mtompset | gives druthb a look. |
| 00:21 | druthb | Oh, I have other sorts of envy. I envy talljoy her amazing ability to wear amazing heels. Other things like that. But the one you name...no. |
| 00:21 | talljoy | TALL SHOES |
| 00:21 | druthb | <3 talljoy |
| 00:21 | talljoy | LOL |
| 00:21 | hi druthb!!! | |
| 00:23 | druthb | seriously, though, mtompset, two minutes is an *eternity* to the entropy in /dev/random. rand() will be just fine for what you want. Give yourself ten digits or so for the my-number-is-bigger-than-yours factor, and move on to a problem that is more interesting and fun to work on. |
| 00:24 | mtompset | druthb: Sorry for the slow reply. I stepped away, but yes... I was going to say just that. :P |
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| 00:25 | druthb | :) |
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| 01:03 | mtompset | druthb: Can I quote you in my commit message? ;) |
| 01:03 | druthb | Absolutely. :P |
| 01:31 | mtompset | As druthb said, "That's a much lower chance than the odds of you dying by asteroid collision, so you've probably got something workable there." |
| 01:31 | druthb | heh |
| 01:31 | mtompset | That's my last sentence of my commit message. :) |
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| 01:37 | mtompset | okay... druthb, are you familiar with git-bz? I'm quite rusty. |
| 01:38 | druthb | not very; I've used it a few times, but I'm rusty, too. |
| 01:38 | mtompset | So, I'll do the old git format patch way then. ;) |
| 01:38 | Unless someone else is lurking who knows git-bz. ;) | |
| 01:40 | talljoy left #koha | |
| 01:47 | mtompset | Okay... testing patch first... no sense putting up a busted patch. :) |
| 01:55 | Hmmm.... | |
| 01:55 | Does anyone know about ALTER TABLE permissions? | |
| 01:56 | I copied my production system DB over, and went to the staff client to force the upgrade on my git dev system. | |
| 01:56 | I get a bunch of things like: [Fri Jun 21 21:53:20 2013] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'kohadata.#sql-3cb_ce' (errno: 121) at /home/mtompset/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6877. | |
| 01:56 | They seem to be ALTER TABLE's. | |
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| 02:16 | mtompset | Nooooo! |
| 02:17 | Evil code... evil, evil code. | |
| 02:30 | DOH! Bad tester! Bad tester. ;) | |
| 03:10 | ARG! I refresh, and now my cardnumber skips again and again. | |
| 03:21 | At least I know no duplicates are generated. :) | |
| 04:32 | Have a great day (24 hour period) and weekend, #koha. | |
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| 06:45 | cait | @wunder muenchen |
| 06:46 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Berglern, Mitterlern, Germany is 15.1°C (8:41 AM CEST on June 22, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:43 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 07:43 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 14:31 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 14:32 | Anyone here able to help my with my massive git issues? | |
| 14:33 | I'm getting a loose object is corrupt error. | |
| 14:40 | good thing I have git diffs. | |
| 14:40 | let's start from scratch again! | |
| 15:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #143 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:45 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 15:46 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 15:47 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 15:48 | mtompset | I'm playing with forking and threading right now, in attempts to bust things. :) |
| 15:48 | (or prove that they are a good idea) | |
| 15:48 | I just forked a dbh, the child process ends, and the handle gets closed and parent can't use it any more. | |
| 15:49 | On an interesting note. The last_insert_id is correct for the parent before it starts to fail miserably. :) | |
| 15:58 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 16:02 | mtompset | Hmmm... C4::Context doesn't work with threads. :) |
| 16:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #143: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/143/ |
| 16:08 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.10.7 | |
| 16:08 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Database update for 3.10.7 release | |
| 16:09 | mtompset | Ah... use the _new_dbh, and it works okay. |
| 16:11 | tcohen: Do you know what I should fill in for $catalog and $schema from this example for Koha? | |
| 16:11 | $rv = $dbh->last_insert_id($catalog, $schema, $table, $field); | |
| 16:50 | Ah, it's the 22nd of the month. | |
| 16:50 | Working on a release, tcohen? | |
| 16:50 | tcohen | excatly |
| 17:07 | jcamins? | |
| 17:07 | wahanui | i think jcamins is too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. |
| 17:07 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 17:08 | tcohen | #koha: what do m# and q# stand for? |
| 17:09 | mtompset | Example? |
| 17:10 | tcohen | nevermind, its just a delimiter renaming in a regexp match |
| 17:27 | gmcharlt around? | |
| 17:28 | jcamins around? | |
| 17:29 | mtompset | That's what I was thinking. Sorry, it's only been me on the channel (with NateC coming and going) since 10:30ish. |
| 17:55 | gmcharlt | tcohen: I am now |
| 18:01 | mtompset | Greetings, gmcharlt. :) |
| 18:02 | gmcharlt | hi mtompset |
| 18:02 | mtompset | Care to look at my patch on bug 10454? :) |
| 18:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10454 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , Duplicate card numbers may be generated |
| 18:03 | mtompset | As far as I can tell, new patron, import patrons, and opac self registration all end up calling fixup_cardnumber. |
| 18:17 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 18:18 | mtompset | Greetings, drojf. |
| 18:18 | drojf | hi mtompset and #koha |
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| 18:50 | mtompset | Thanks for the feedback, gmcharlt. This is the first time I've added a table, so I wasn't sure what to include or not (kohaversion.pl) :) |
| 19:10 | gmcharlt | bgkriegel: I've updated the gitolate config so that you and tcohen can push tags |
| 19:10 | bgkriegel | thanks gmlcharlt :) |
| 19:11 | tcohen | yay! http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/3.12.x |
| 19:11 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #56 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:11 | gmcharlt | tcohen++ |
| 19:11 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 19:12 | druthb | o/ |
| 19:12 | * gmcharlt | is going to be afk for a whle |
| 19:12 | druthb | nooooooooooo |
| 19:12 | * druthb | will miss gmcharlt! |
| 19:12 | gmcharlt | awwww ;) |
| 19:13 | tcohen | gmcharlt: don't forget chris hall |
| 19:13 | (for 3.8) | |
| 19:29 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. |
| 19:29 | druthb | Hi, mtompset! |
| 19:29 | :) | |
| 19:29 | mtompset | Greetings, bgkriegel. |
| 19:30 | bgkriegel | Hi mtompset |
| 19:33 | mtompset | "don't forget me" triggered a musical flashback: http://youtu.be/JG2IFsz_n5c |
| 19:33 | Glass Tiger. :) | |
| 19:33 | I mean "don't forget chris hall" | |
| 19:36 | gmcharlt | tcohen: thanks for the reminder; done |
| 19:52 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #56: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/56/ |
| 19:52 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.12.1 | |
| 19:52 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Increment version for 3.12.1 release | |
| 19:52 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Update release notes for 3.12.1 release | |
| 19:53 | Starting build #144 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 19:55 | mtompset | So, is it just the tarball you are generating, tcohen? |
| 20:09 | tcohen | not just that, but yes, I'm building the tarball mtompset |
| 20:34 | jcamins | tcohen++ |
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| 20:35 | jcamins | tcohen: don't forget to update the header on download.k-c.org. |
| 20:38 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #144: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.10.x/144/ |
| 20:38 | Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Update release notes for 3.10.7 release | |
| 20:38 | CiM4 | help |
| 20:38 | !help | |
| 20:39 | CiM4 left #koha | |
| 20:47 | tcohen | how do i do that jcamins? |
| 20:48 | i guess i also need to move the 3.12.00 files to old_releases too | |
| 20:49 | who is the koha@ moderator? | |
| 20:50 | we need to discard a message being held | |
| 20:57 | mtompset | CiM4?! |
| 21:00 | tcohen | bgkriegel++ |
| 21:00 | bgkriegel | tcohen++ |
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| 21:04 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
| 21:04 | cait | g n8 |
| 21:05 | mtompset | tcohen++ |
| 21:05 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 21:05 | Congratulations on your first release. :) | |
| 21:05 | tcohen | thanks mtompset |
| 21:05 | bgkriegel | thanks :) |
| 21:57 | cjh | bgkriegel: morning :) |
| 21:57 | bgkriegel | morning cjh? |
| 21:57 | have you read last mail from tcohen? | |
| 21:57 | cjh | just logging in now :) |
| 21:58 | bgkriegel | ok :) |
| 21:58 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
| 21:58 | huginn | bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 14.0°C (6:00 PM ART on June 22, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:59 | cjh | awesome read, now to figure out how this releasing thing works :p |
| 21:59 | bgkriegel | jeje |
| 21:59 | have you rangi notes? | |
| 22:00 | cjh | I have a copy of the chat log which I can try skim |
| 22:00 | bgkriegel | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]3-06-20#i_1329645 |
| 22:00 | cjh | ty, saved me googling :) |
| 22:01 | bgkriegel++ translation updates | |
| 22:03 | bgkriegel | good. first, update translations and database version, 2 commits |
| 22:03 | look http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/3.10.x, and http://git.koha-community.org/[…]refs/heads/3.12.x | |
| 22:03 | cjh | and then release notes and tag? |
| 22:03 | ty | |
| 22:03 | bgkriegel | yes |
| 22:08 | cjh | I tried applying the patch with git am -ui3 and am gettng a few errors, it isnt applying to some files. |
| 22:08 | bgkriegel | mm |
| 22:08 | strange | |
| 22:09 | cjh | ohhh nvm, the links in the email arent quite right. phewf. |
| 22:09 | bgkriegel | no? |
| 22:09 | wahanui | http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg |
| 22:09 | cjh | 3.8.x |
| 22:09 | wahanui | it has been said that 3.8.x is missing 7805 |
| 22:09 | cjh | http://translate.koha-communit[…]r-3.8.14.patch.gz<http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 22:09 | +assets/0001-Translation-updates-for-3.10.7.patch.gz> | |
| 22:09 | so the link for the 3.8 patch was for the 3.10 patch, easy fix :) | |
| 22:10 | bgkriegel | oh,sorry |
| 22:10 | cjh | oh no problem, it could even be my email client. |
| 22:11 | eik still some errors, will pastbin :) | |
| 22:12 | bgkriegel | ok |
| 22:12 | pastebot | "cjh" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "3.8.14 translation updates" (35 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/78 |
| 22:12 | cjh | I am applying to the current 3.8.x branch |
| 22:13 | bgkriegel | ok, let me try |
| 22:23 | cjh: done, file updated. Could you downoad and try? | |
| 22:23 | cjh | sure :) |
| 22:25 | same errors, I may be getting a cached version or something. | |
| 22:26 | bgkriegel | I changed the name, remove 0001- |
| 22:26 | cjh | ty |
| 22:28 | same errors, did it apply cleanly for you? | |
| 22:28 | bgkriegel | yes |
| 22:29 | let me see | |
| 22:30 | cjh | did a fresh fetch and still same issues. |
| 22:35 | bgkriegel | cjh: you are right, same errors. |
| 22:35 | let me see (again) :( | |
| 22:35 | cjh | ty for your time :) |
| 23:19 | bgkriegel | cjh: this is very strange, I have problem with some po files. I'm trying to identfy which ones, and for what reason. Non of this on other versions :( |
| 23:20 | cjh: but i'm still here, just want you to know. | |
| 23:20 | cjh | thanks :) |
| 23:21 | I guess if need be we could do this release without translation updates and get them next time. | |
| 23:21 | I'm studying for my exam but will try keep an eye on the channel. | |
| 23:21 | bgkriegel | that could be an option :( |
| 23:22 | gmcharlt | cjh: bgkriegel: do you have accounts on the website with which to post the release announcements? |
| 23:22 | @later tell tcohen do you have an account on the website with which to post a release announcement? | |
| 23:22 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:23 | cjh | I don't think so, also still need to generate some gpgp keys |
| 23:24 | bgkriegel | No, I don't have a user |
| 23:25 | gmcharlt | OK, I'll create account and PM you the initial passowrds |
| 23:25 | bgkriegel | thanks :) |
| 23:30 | gmcharlt | cjh: bgkriegel: you two (and tcohen) should now have emails inviting you to activate your account |
| 23:30 | cjh | thanks :) |
| 23:33 | bgkriegel | thanks, I need to learn a new name "bjkriegel" :) it's ok |
| 23:33 | I'm in | |
| 23:35 | cjh | me too, ty |
| 23:35 | gmcharlt | bgkriegel: oops. typo -- would you prefer your username to be corrected? |
| 23:36 | bgkriegel | no, it's ok :) |
| 23:36 | my second name is Jose, so I can remember it :) | |
| 23:37 | gmcharlt | heh] |
| 23:41 | cjh: bgkriegel: btw, please make sure that you update your WP account to include your real name (house style) | |
| 23:42 | bgkriegel | done! |
| 23:45 | cjh | also done. |
| 23:45 | gmcharlt | thanks |
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