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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | trea | that's a safe bet. |
| 00:00 | eythian | http://www.blorpy.com/post/515[…]s-a-collection-of <-- wizzyrea |
| 00:00 | mtj | haaay, i just discovered vim's :retab thingy - very handy for Koha |
| 00:01 | jcamins | http://lcweb2.loc.gov/diglib/codetables/45.html |
| 00:01 | wizzyrea | http://www.loc.gov/marc/specif[…]peccharmarc8.html |
| 00:02 | ok #2 - it's a jiggly bouncy ball that kids just adore. | |
| 00:02 | that's not a weird toy. | |
| 00:03 | cjh | man #4 is awesome! |
| 00:10 | trea | "shoots fragmentation bomb" |
| 00:10 | something every child needs | |
| 00:11 | dac joined #koha | |
| 00:14 | * wizzyrea | shudders |
| 00:15 | * cjh | knows what mini-trea is getting for xmas.... |
| 00:16 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 00:20 | mtj | how do people feel about having a general tab/whitespace tidy-up, early in this release cycle? |
| 00:21 | eythian | mtj: it screws with history if you're not careful |
| 00:22 | mtj | …or at least identifing which are the worst files, for crufty whitespace |
| 00:24 | eythian, i didnt know that specifically - tho i guessed it would introduce some merge problems with older patches | |
| 00:24 | eythian | it may also do that. |
| 00:27 | mtj | i'm starting to see new patches failing QA, that have cut/pasted existing glitchy lines :/ |
| 00:28 | jcamins | Are you sure that's not a good thing? |
| 00:28 | eythian | I think it is a good thing |
| 00:28 | you should clean up the stuff you're working on, at the very least. | |
| 00:28 | mtj | the failing is a great thing! |
| 00:29 | …the manually tidying up the failing lines is a tedious pain | |
| 00:29 | eythian | you select the stuff you modified and run it through perltidy |
| 00:29 | rangi | many many many more patches will fail if you do a mass change |
| 00:30 | and yep, its easy with vim | |
| 00:30 | select a bit and perltidy it | |
| 00:30 | jcamins | F6 FTW! |
| 00:31 | eythian | I have it on the same button :) |
| 00:34 | mtj | yeah, i do the same |
| 00:35 | rangi | hmm |
| 00:35 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=8868#c7 | |
| 00:35 | huginn` | 04Bug 8868: enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , ILS-DI: CancelHold needs to take a reserve_id |
| 00:35 | rangi | too harsh? |
| 00:37 | jcamins | eems fair. |
| 00:37 | *Seems | |
| 00:37 | rangi | cool |
| 00:39 | mtj | haay ftw, i have global/selectable whitespace stripper function() in vim |
| 00:40 | ...which works well for templates files | |
| 00:40 | EOL whitespace stripper, and tab replacer | |
| 00:41 | ^^ my other pet-peeve :) | |
| 00:45 | rangi | mine is not enough sign offs :) |
| 00:45 | * rangi | cracks the whip |
| 00:45 | rangi | more work, less talk!! :-) |
| 00:46 | mtj | yes sir! |
| 00:50 | * dcook | giggles |
| 00:50 | dcook | Well, I'm not sure I'm actually capable of giggling, but...the sentiment is there nonetheless |
| 00:51 | papa++ | |
| 00:52 | papa | eh, what have I done now? |
| 00:52 | rangi | lots of signoffs |
| 00:52 | papa | ah that :) |
| 00:52 | dcook | In 5 days :) |
| 00:52 | papa | you mean in 2 |
| 00:53 | dcook | Probably |
| 00:53 | Whoa... | |
| 00:53 | papa | but I was cheating a bit, I picked the easy ones |
| 00:53 | dcook | I like the idea of marcflavour being called MarcFormat instead, but...that's a lot of testing... |
| 00:53 | Fair enough | |
| 00:54 | I barely have time for the easy ones at the moment :S | |
| 00:54 | papa | Like when it had MARC in it, i'd skip immediately :) |
| 00:54 | * dcook | looks balefully at the project that never seems to end... |
| 00:54 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:55 | To be honest, I'm half-tempted to install a UNIMARC system just to sign off some of those patches | |
| 00:56 | jcamins | I don't think I like MarcFormat. |
| 00:56 | dcook | Oh...just noticed jcamins's offline circ patch.. |
| 00:56 | No? | |
| 00:56 | wahanui | http://media.moddb.com/images/[…]33/collapsing.gif |
| 00:57 | jcamins | Technically UNIMARC has two formats, one of which is the same as the MARC21 format. |
| 00:57 | dcook | O_o |
| 00:57 | jcamins | The other one being for authorities, and people who are drunk. |
| 00:57 | dcook | o_O |
| 00:58 | rangi | :)\ |
| 00:58 | a lot of library standards feel like they were designed when people were drunk | |
| 00:58 | eythian | your chin is falling off, rangi |
| 00:58 | rangi | too much drink eythian |
| 00:59 | eythian | designing library standards, are you? |
| 01:08 | jcamins | lol |
| 01:12 | wizzyrea | unimarc smells of wine. |
| 01:12 | rangi | i find unimarc more sane than marc21 actually |
| 01:13 | but then again, i find a pile of mud more sane than marc21 | |
| 01:14 | eythian | wahanui: library patrons is <reply>patrons can be found here: http://notalwaysright.com/tag/library |
| 01:14 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 01:15 | dcook | *facepalm* |
| 01:16 | eythian: I think my happiness points just dropped :( | |
| 01:16 | Evil humans... | |
| 01:16 | eythian | wahanui: facepalm is <reply>http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg |
| 01:16 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 01:17 | dcook | They might be back up now ^_^ |
| 01:17 | Also, you do have a link for everything | |
| 01:17 | * dcook | almost wonders if there is a link for that... |
| 01:17 | eythian | heh |
| 01:22 | rangi | jcamins: what do you think of bug 9728 |
| 01:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9728 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , XISBN use simple search instead of SQL |
| 01:22 | rangi | as a general idea (not the code quality or anything) |
| 01:32 | jcamins | rangi: I think it's a good idea generally. |
| 01:33 | rangi | cool |
| 01:33 | ill qa it then :) | |
| 01:54 | jcamins | I have to say the Schwartzian transform may be the most cryptic pieces of code I've ever seen. |
| 01:54 | I'm confused by the => bits in it. | |
| 01:55 | eythian | there are no => bits in it |
| 01:56 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Schwartzian transform" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/49 |
| 01:56 | jcamins | Really? |
| 01:56 | wahanui | Really is off now |
| 01:56 | jcamins | ^^ that's the version I'm looking at. |
| 01:58 | eythian | if it turned more of the parts into blocks, the => could go away |
| 01:58 | (keeping in mind that => eq , | |
| 01:58 | ) | |
| 02:00 | jcamins | Oh, so basically => is like an implied } in this case? |
| 02:01 | eythian | no, it's just a comma |
| 02:01 | jcamins | Right, but I could convert those into maps using {} and no =>? |
| 02:02 | eythian | it's like map chr, @list is the same as map chr => @list |
| 02:02 | well, you'd be converting the expression into a block | |
| 02:02 | so that map doesn't require the comma | |
| 02:03 | jcamins | Okay, now I understand. |
| 02:03 | cjh | oh wow schwartzian in the wild |
| 02:04 | jcamins | I'm not sure it's actually necessary in this instance. |
| 02:04 | Which is good, because I'm not convinced it's not gratuitous obfuscation. | |
| 02:07 | I'm all for efficient algorithms, but how often are you going to deduplicate an authority file? | |
| 02:07 | rangi | exactly |
| 02:08 | theres a whole thing about premature optimisation | |
| 02:08 | http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PrematureOptimization | |
| 02:08 | jcamins | Now I just need to find a readable way to write this. |
| 02:08 | eythian | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]ch-and-given-when |
| 02:08 | rangi | eythian has the book on his shelf :) |
| 02:09 | jcamins | What's Smartmatch? |
| 02:10 | cjh | a relatively new perl operator ~~ |
| 02:10 | eythian | it's comparison using ~~ |
| 02:10 | it's only about 10 years old or so | |
| 02:10 | cjh | heh |
| 02:11 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 02:11 | ~~ | |
| 02:11 | I've seen that a few times. | |
| 02:12 | Actually, I just figured out my issue with the Schwartzian transform. | |
| 02:12 | It's a good algorithm to use for this, but it doesn't need to be all on one line. | |
| 02:12 | Temporary variables are okay. | |
| 02:12 | eythian | yeah |
| 02:13 | only three uses of ~~ in koha | |
| 02:15 | http://youtu.be/hFo7eJR2cvc | |
| 02:16 | cjh | the 3rd movie \o/ |
| 02:29 | jcamins | Okay, question... if I am going to call one of two routines repeatedly, is it bad for me to assign a reference to that routine to a variable and use $GetRecord->($recordid)? |
| 02:30 | $authorities ? GetAuthority($recordid) : GetBiblio($recordid) offends me, as does expanding that into a proper if. | |
| 02:32 | eythian | I think it's fine to do that |
| 02:32 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 02:33 | wizzyrea | http://io9.com/william-shatner[…]ild-thi-511210553 |
| 02:33 | eythian | wahanui: captain cook is climbing a mountain |
| 02:33 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 02:33 | eythian | oh that's totally wrong |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 02:34 | eythian | wahanui: forget captain cook |
| 02:34 | wahanui | eythian: I forgot captain cook |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | captain kirk is climbing a mountain |
| 02:34 | wahanui | Why is he climbing a mountain? |
| 02:34 | eythian | much more like it |
| 02:34 | cjh | lol |
| 02:34 | eythian | post-curry brain |
| 02:35 | dcook | Mmm curry wednesday |
| 02:36 | I might have to rustle myself up some curry... | |
| 02:37 | jcamins | wtf? |
| 02:37 | The ellipsis statement? | |
| 02:37 | That's... | |
| 02:37 | weird. | |
| 02:39 | eythian | I can see the use though |
| 02:40 | cjh | oh wow I have never seen that, really neat. |
| 02:41 | jcamins | Okay, sanity check: scalar @weights = 5 if @weights = ( 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 )? |
| 02:41 | eythian | yeah |
| 02:42 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 02:44 | ... | |
| 02:44 | The Schwartzian transform has melted my brain. | |
| 02:45 | I've forgotten how to do a for loop. | |
| 02:45 | eythian | map { something } @list; of course |
| 02:49 | jcamins | Okay, this is confusing. |
| 02:50 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]651;hb=HEAD#l1384 | |
| 02:50 | If I pass undef as the second and fourth arguments, shouldn't that return without doing anything? | |
| 02:51 | Or, rather, die completely. | |
| 02:51 | Since undef->fields() is undefined. | |
| 02:51 | eythian | I'd expect it to throw a warn |
| 02:51 | I don't think it'd return, because the ==0 check will end up as if undef==0 which is false | |
| 02:52 | jcamins | But undef->fields() won't cause a Perl error? |
| 02:52 | * jcamins | will find out. |
| 02:53 | jcamins | Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at -e line 1. |
| 02:53 | eythian | I don't think it'd cause it to die |
| 02:53 | yeah, but that's probably just a warn | |
| 02:53 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 02:53 | eythian | I might be wrong though |
| 02:53 | not totally sure | |
| 02:54 | jcamins | No, I think you're right. |
| 02:54 | I mean, I think you should be wrong, but I think empirically I have evidence that you are rightlz | |
| 02:55 | cjh | perl -e "undef->foo(); print 'made it';" # doesnt print made it |
| 02:57 | jcamins | Is true greater than false in Perl? |
| 02:57 | * jcamins | will assign numeric values. |
| 02:57 | jcamins | Probably safer that way. |
| 02:59 | eythian | true is non-zero, non-empty |
| 03:00 | jcamins | What I'm not sure of is whether ('a' eq 'a') > ('a' eq 'b') |
| 03:00 | cjh | perl -e "print 'yeap' if ((1==1)>(1==0))" |
| 03:00 | eythian | that'd be true |
| 03:00 | because the first would be '1', the second '0' | |
| 03:01 | cjh | perl -e "print 'OH GOD' if ((1==1)<(1==0))" |
| 03:01 | eythian | wahanui: the singularity is http://i.imgur.com/RMKh9xx.jpg |
| 03:01 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 03:02 | cjh | that actually exists :o http://www.olympus-global.com/[…]nr130130sz16e.jsp |
| 03:04 | eythian | actually, my camera has pet mode in it too I think. But it's mostly to make the photo look nicer I expect. |
| 03:04 | It does also have a "take a photo when everyone is smiling" function. | |
| 03:05 | wizzyrea | ...cameras do that? |
| 03:05 | i haven't had a proper camera in a while :P | |
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| 03:06 | cjh | wb. |
| 03:06 | eythian | I think it even has a smile-graph, so you can wait for it to reach a particular rictus and take the photo then |
| 03:06 | mostly I just leave it on the "be pretty smart and do what I want" mode. | |
| 03:31 | jcamins | Cool. New and spectacularly revised deduper works. |
| 03:32 | And it is, if I may say, a super deduper. | |
| 03:32 | :D | |
| 03:32 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | ok that was funny |
| 03:32 | mtj | super dooper deduper? |
| 03:32 | wizzyrea | and not just because I've been up since 2am |
| 03:32 | jcamins | I know, right? |
| 03:32 | lol | |
| 03:32 | That was an actual good joke from me. | |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | indeed! |
| 03:33 | * jcamins | checks to see if armaggedon is upon us. |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | @quote add <jcamins> Cool. New and spectacularly revised deduper works. And it is, if I may say, a super deduper. |
| 03:33 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #256 added. |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | oh yeahhhhh |
| 03:33 | jcamins | What's our stance on POD? |
| 03:34 | wizzyrea | we like it? |
| 03:34 | jcamins | Do we really put it at the end because it's "faster"? |
| 03:34 | wizzyrea | oh. that. pass. |
| 03:34 | eythian | that doesn't actually make sense to me |
| 03:34 | jcamins | I would like to put my POD inline because then it is easy to understand what the POD is talking about. |
| 03:34 | (IMO) | |
| 03:34 | For all my personal projects, that's the way I do it. | |
| 03:35 | eythian | perl has to scan the whole file anyway, in case you have more stuff after the POD at the end |
| 03:35 | I guess unless you finish with __END__ | |
| 03:35 | or whatever it is | |
| 03:35 | but yeah, inline is better I think | |
| 04:00 | gmcharlt | agreed, inline |
| 04:04 | jcamins | Good, because that's what I did. |
| 04:14 | And now that I have a nifty new record deduplicator, I am getting some sleep. | |
| 04:14 | Good night, #koha. | |
| 04:15 | dcook | night, jcamins |
| 04:15 | eythian | later |
| 04:18 | dcook | mtj++ |
| 04:18 | Thanks for rebasing that 2nd patch for 10096 | |
| 04:19 | * dcook | goes off to grab a late lunch... |
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| 04:36 | eythian | https://plus.google.com/+Yonat[…]posts/EfmdR6VWvRM <-- cjh |
| 04:37 | cjh | eythian: I quite like the title http://blogs.smithsonianmag.co[…]s-of-dying-stars/ |
| 04:40 | TIL: organic tyrian purple pigment can be made from the snot of the Murex snail | |
| 04:46 | eythian | and that's why toga praetextae were worn by people of rank. |
| 04:47 | Did you skip out of your classical education, huh? | |
| 05:24 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 05:24 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on June 05, 2013). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 05:25 | eythian | It seems to be missing the 50-70kph wind |
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| 06:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:37 | wahanui | hi, reiveune |
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| 06:45 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
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| 06:56 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 06:56 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 06:56 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 15.5°C (8:42 AM CEST on June 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:13 | Joubu | hello #koha |
| 07:13 | kf | hi Joubu |
| 07:13 | :) | |
| 07:13 | and hi #koha! | |
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| 07:14 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:16 | kf | hi gaetan_B |
| 07:17 | gaetan_B | hey kf :) alles klar ? |
| 07:17 | kf | viel zu tun, aber ja ;) |
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| 08:50 | samueld | hi everybody |
| 08:55 | rangi | is fridolyn catching up on mail :) |
| 08:57 | kf | looks like it :) |
| 08:57 | hi samueld | |
| 08:57 | rangi | hi samueld |
| 08:57 | samueld | hi kf & rangi |
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| 12:19 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:28 | oleonard | Hi kf |
| 12:29 | kf | hi oleonard |
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| 12:56 | tomascohen | mornin #koha |
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| 13:05 | Joubu | bz is down ? |
| 13:05 | oleonard | No for me Joubu |
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| 13:06 | Joubu | oleonard: ok ta |
| 13:06 | oleonard: ok thanks, weird! | |
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| 13:09 | Joubu | back! :) |
| 13:09 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 13:10 | Joubu | hi tcohen |
| 13:12 | oleonard | Why does the course reserves "add item" process ask if you want to change the item type, collection code, etc? |
| 13:12 | Libraries temporarily or permanently change those details when adding them to course reserves? | |
| 13:13 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 13:13 | You'd have course reserves stored in a different part of the library with different loan rules. | |
| 13:13 | tcohen | it makes sense oleonard, as item type is the means to change the circ rules for it |
| 13:14 | oleonard | All new to me, thanks |
| 13:15 | Does it automatically revert the changes? | |
| 13:15 | ...when an item is removed? | |
| 13:15 | kf | oleonard: I think the use case here would be to mark those items temporarily for reference or only allow short loans |
| 13:15 | so all students of a course get a hcance to do their homework with that important book | |
| 13:16 | jcamins | oleonard: I'd think that the entire point of the course reserves module would be that it would be automatically reset, but... I don't actually know. |
| 13:16 | kf | tcohen: around? |
| 13:17 | oleonard: i hope it does, like jcamins said but i haven't tested it yet :( | |
| 13:18 | tcohen | here |
| 13:18 | kf | @later tell tcohen - could you take a look at bug 9824? The follow ups fix the labels a bit and woudl be nice to have in 3.12 |
| 13:18 | huginn` | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:18 | kf | oh sory :) |
| 13:19 | tcohen | hi kf |
| 13:24 | nengard | does Koha not have a deleted authorities table? |
| 13:24 | I'm not seeing one | |
| 13:25 | oleonard | How dare you consider deleting an authority nengard! |
| 13:25 | nengard | unused authorities goofy boy :) |
| 13:25 | we have deleted bibs and deleted items | |
| 13:25 | how dare you delete those!! | |
| 13:25 | :) | |
| 13:26 | jcamins | nengard: it does not, no. |
| 13:27 | kf | sounds like not a bad idea to me |
| 13:27 | nengard | bug 10417 |
| 13:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10417 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , keep deleted authorities |
| 13:27 | nengard | :) |
| 13:27 | kf | 10417 already... wow |
| 13:28 | jcamins | Now if only someone were interested in sponsoring that sort of development, eh? |
| 13:28 | oleonard | The same deep pockets who are sponsoring the LTS version? |
| 13:29 | jcamins | oleonard++ # comedy at its best |
| 13:29 | oleonard | jcamins and kf: removing a changed item from a course reverts the changes you make when adding it |
| 13:29 | kf | yay :) |
| 13:29 | jcamins | Hooray! |
| 13:29 | kf | thx for testing oleonard :) |
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| 13:39 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 13:39 | for his usual awesomeness | |
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| 14:03 | druthb | oleonard++ |
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| 14:05 | oleonard | Thanks druthb :) |
| 14:24 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8584: cleanup_database.pl : Add a DAYS parameter for email purges. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5248df03dd6ec8224> / Bug 7892: Open link to imported record in new tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]75530bbec1f11b9e5> / Bug 10015 - UniqueItemFields could have link to database documentation <http://git.koha |
| 14:26 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:26 | huginn` | gmcharlt: Quote #156: "druthb: I would feed wahanui a botsnack of windows 8 engineers, but they're full of fluff and not very filling. trea: like marshmallow peeps, with clip on ties." (added by wizzyrea at 02:09 PM, September 22, 2011) |
| 14:26 | * druthb | chuckles |
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| 14:34 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 766: remove CGI::scrolling_list from request.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4640fe175d739328> / Bug 10249: Fix untranslatable strings in OPAC detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ae37a6c07cad0b1c7> |
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| 15:12 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 15:12 | druthb | Hi, mtompset! |
| 15:12 | mtompset | Greetings, druthb. |
| 15:13 | I'm still fighting the "How do sessions work?" problem in Koha. | |
| 15:13 | Because just when I think I have a piece of code that should limp into working and should never see the light of day... it doesn't set the session up like I expect. :( | |
| 15:16 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 15:16 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 15:17 | jcamins | mtompset: ah, yep. I see your problem. It's the fourth word in your question. |
| 15:18 | mtompset | Are you stating that sessions is the wrong word, or that you agree sessions are a big pain? |
| 15:18 | jcamins | No, I'm saying that "work" is overly strong. :P |
| 15:18 | mtompset | fine, function? :P |
| 15:19 | pianohacker | they're balanced on the precipice of "too crappy to like, not crappy enough to fix" |
| 15:21 | mtompset | All I want is to get a bunch of values pushed into the DB nicely. |
| 15:22 | So that the code doesn't think the session is timedout and goes into an infinite loop of click-me to loop bliss. | |
| 15:23 | * druthb | drags around the conference center One More Day |
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| 15:26 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8600: (followup) remove debug logging statement <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1568cc4da51903a25> / Bug 8600: can now remove search input fields in OPAC advanced search form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]edbfa5e231e1e19ab> |
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| 15:28 | mtompset | session->flush! |
| 15:28 | I think that might be it. | |
| 15:28 | DUH! | |
| 15:30 | Nope. :( | |
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| 15:46 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9549: Show local cover images in the OPAC shelf browser <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]180e30e5e99d00032> |
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| 16:09 | oleonard | "universal web share icon?" Is that really a thing? http://www.flickr.com/photos/t[…]media/3137787741/ |
| 16:10 | * oleonard | wonders how recognizable that really is |
| 16:10 | jcamins | Never seen it before. |
| 16:10 | Apparently it's the logo of ShareThis(R). | |
| 16:11 | * pianohacker | discounts less and less every day that the original authors of the admin interface were on crack |
| 16:11 | rhcl | looks like freenode just died |
| 16:12 | and now it's back | |
| 16:12 | jcamins | rhcl: they've been netsplitting like crazy. |
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| 16:12 | rhcl | yea, saw that yesterday, and they sent out a tech msg too |
| 16:12 | gmcharlt | I get the impression they've been subject to an unusually high number of DOS attacks recently |
| 16:12 | rhcl | it's unusual to see the actual server die, however |
| 16:12 | * oleonard | would prefer that the "share" button have a nice style: http://screencast.com/t/0LubG8LSbsYN |
| 16:13 | is testing Bug 9032 | |
| 16:13 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Share a list (part 1: send the invitation) |
| 16:13 | gmcharlt | oleonard: I've seen it before ... but universal? not sure about that |
| 16:15 | * gmcharlt | doesn't have any suggestions for a more universal option, though |
| 16:15 | gmcharlt | nor any objections to using that icon |
| 16:16 | oleonard | Hm, the Tango Desktop Project seems to be dead |
| 16:25 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 16:30 | tcohen | on android everything related to the action of "sharing" has that icon |
| 16:31 | jcamins | tcohen: really? Huh. |
| 16:31 | I have an android phone and never noticed it. | |
| 16:31 | * jcamins | goes looking for the phone. |
| 16:32 | tcohen | or an app from play, or something from flipboard |
| 16:33 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:05 | tcohen | gmcharlt: I think you found a previous bug, as I copied what was already done in Auth.pm (bug 9735) |
| 17:05 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Choose language using URL parameters in any page |
| 17:05 | gmcharlt | tcohen: I don't think it's a bug, actually, but only by accident |
| 17:06 | i.e., CGI.pm will accept either a scalar (for a single cookie) or a flat arrayref | |
| 17:06 | tcohen | see Auth.pm:275 |
| 17:07 | gmcharlt | right, but that's the *only* spot that does it |
| 17:07 | at least in C4::aUTH | |
| 17:09 | to clarify -- I do think that when the OPAC search history patch was written, it should have explicitly iniitaliized an array(ref) to keep the list of cookies | |
| 17:09 | tcohen | I should push it then |
| 17:10 | gmcharlt | rather than doing the $cookie = [$cookie, $newcookie] form |
| 17:10 | tcohen: push what? | |
| 17:10 | tcohen | the new languagecookie into the cookie array |
| 17:10 | gmcharlt | ah, right |
| 17:10 | (although at that point in the code, $cookie could either be a scalar *or* a listref) | |
| 17:11 | so you'd either have to test for both cases, or do a bit of cleanup | |
| 17:17 | tcohen | gmcharlt: the cookie method returns an arrayref? |
| 17:17 | listref | |
| 17:18 | gmcharlt | tcohen: $cgi->cookie('foo') just returns a scalar |
| 17:21 | jcamins | tcohen: Esta tierra es mia... does that refer to the planet or a garden (for example)? |
| 17:21 | tcohen | maybe both, I suggest the second |
| 17:22 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 17:22 | tcohen | what are u reading jcamins ? |
| 17:22 | jcamins | In English the second made sense, but I wanted to check that it would in Spanish too. :) |
| 17:22 | Film posters! | |
| 17:23 | This is a Russian poster for an Argentinian film. | |
| 17:23 | gmcharlt | jcamins: so we don't have to recognize you as the Planetary Emporer just yet? ;) |
| 17:23 | jcamins | gmcharlt: hmmm... I guess not yet. |
| 17:23 | tcohen | "land" |
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| 17:24 | tcohen | I'd translate as 'land' |
| 17:25 | rgoldman | are there 3rd party consultants who'll import athena records to a new koha instance - cataloged somewhere? |
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| 17:25 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 17:25 | jcamins | support? |
| 17:25 | wahanui | support is found at http://koha-community.org/support/ |
| 17:25 | jcamins | support vendors? |
| 17:26 | paid support? | |
| 17:26 | wahanui | please see http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ for a list of paid Koha support vendors. |
| 17:26 | rgoldman | ty |
| 17:26 | jcamins | ^^ there is an incomplete list of Koha support vendors. |
| 17:26 | Brooke | Life support? |
| 17:26 | wahanui | Life support is, like, See Brooke for AED/CPR FPR |
| 17:26 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 17:27 | rgoldman | ok. any warning about using debian install and repo for ubuntu lts? |
| 17:27 | jcamins | rgoldman: just that you should absolutely be using packages and not the tgz. |
| 17:28 | They'll work absolutely fine. | |
| 17:28 | rgoldman | TY jcamins. all set then. |
| 17:29 | jcamins | Oh, there's a meeting in a half hour? |
| 17:30 | oleonard | Another unreminded meeting. |
| 17:30 | drojf | you got half an hour to send a reminder :P |
| 17:34 | oleonard | What was the big deal we didn't vote on last time because no one was around? |
| 17:34 | gmcharlt | version numbers? |
| 17:35 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 17:35 | And please note I am not presenting the proposal. | |
| 17:35 | I put it on the stupid agenda because people seemed to think it mattered at all. | |
| 17:35 | (the agenda was not stupid prior to its addition, of course) | |
| 17:36 | * oleonard | can tell jcamins is excited about the whole idea |
| 17:36 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:36 | * gmcharlt | thinks that folks who are actively advocating for a position, or for discussion or votes, should be the ones to put things on the agenda |
| 17:36 | jcamins | Right. |
| 17:36 | tcohen | what's the meeting about? |
| 17:36 | gmcharlt | if a given idea doesn't have a champion who is invested enough to at least do that, perhaps it doesn't belong |
| 17:36 | jcamins | gmcharlt: if I hadn't been RM, I would've just unsubscribed from koha-devel. |
| 17:37 | Since I was RM, I said "I'll put it on the agenda, now stop bothering me." | |
| 17:37 | gmcharlt | tcohen: just a general one |
| 17:37 | agenda at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_5_June_2013 | |
| 17:38 | tcohen | we should ask badPaul to make the proposal |
| 17:38 | jcamins | His time is too valuable. |
| 17:39 | tcohen | the only thing I care and no other cares is the debian packages naming |
| 17:39 | :-P | |
| 17:41 | gmcharlt: would CGI.pm flaten an listref containing only one cookie? (looking for the simplest way of handling this) | |
| 17:42 | gmcharlt | tcohen: yes, that woudl work as far as CGI.pm is concerned |
| 17:42 | one caveat: there is likely some random code scattered throughout that tries to do stuff with the $cookie returned by get_template_and_user | |
| 17:43 | hmm | |
| 17:43 | tcohen | I'll add a check and return the scalar then |
| 17:44 | that's source for other troubles, right? | |
| 17:45 | gmcharlt | potentially, yes |
| 17:46 | * tcohen | meant already present potential problems |
| 17:47 | gmcharlt | tcohen: yeah, I have a nasty feeling that I've opened up a mare's nest underneath you |
| 17:47 | sorry about that | |
| 17:48 | * Brooke | gets the horsemeat grinder out... |
| 17:48 | tcohen | I'll provide a followup for this specific bug, and do some research through the code |
| 17:49 | gmcharlt | great |
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| 17:49 | tcohen | this looks ugly, right?: ref($cookie) eq 'ARRAY' |
| 17:49 | jcamins | Usually one doesn't use parentheses with ref. |
| 17:50 | gmcharlt | other than the parentheses, while it may be ugly, it's canonical ugliness ;) |
| 17:51 | * Brooke | is non canonically appealing. |
| 17:51 | * mtompset | continues to bash his brains against the sessionID cookie authentication madness he is tinkering with. |
| 17:52 | pianohacker | 'sub isarrayref { eval { @{ shift } }; return $@ }' |
| 17:52 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 17:53 | mtompset | Umm... why that ugly function... isn't there a ref($shift) eq 'ARRAY' type check? |
| 17:53 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:53 | pianohacker | curses, !$@ |
| 17:53 | mtompset: yes, absolutely | |
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| 17:53 | pianohacker | this gets you more perl hacker points though |
| 17:53 | jcamins | pianohacker++ # "curses, !$@" may be the greatest line ever |
| 17:53 | tcohen | pianohacker++ |
| 17:54 | gmcharlt | Tim Toady -- the game whereby you can faintly disturb any YAPH on a whim |
| 17:54 | pianohacker | hehe |
| 17:55 | when your code looks like Popeye dialog, you're having a Perl kind of day | |
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| 18:00 | Brooke | uguuguguguug |
| 18:01 | ooooh Kiwis | |
| 18:01 | JDatTeTakere | Sleepy Kiwis. Only 6am. |
| 18:01 | Brooke | that's why I'm ooohing and ahhing ;) |
| 18:02 | tcohen | gmcharlt: would you take a look at the followup? |
| 18:03 | gmcharlt | sure |
| 18:03 | JDatTeTakere | Too cold to get up and make coffee in Levin, NZ |
| 18:04 | Brooke | you should get a Yank What Does. I've heard they come cheap in the 'Nua |
| 18:04 | JDatTeTakere | A Yank what does? |
| 18:05 | gmcharlt | #startmeeting Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013 |
| 18:05 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Jun 5 18:05:20 2013 UTC. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 18:05 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 18:05 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:05 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'koha_general_meeting__5_june_2013' |
| 18:05 | gmcharlt | #info agenda is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_5_June_2013 |
| 18:05 | #topic Introductions | |
| 18:05 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 18:05 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
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| 18:06 | gmcharlt | #info Galen Charlton, Equinox Software, 3.14 RM |
| 18:06 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 18:06 | nancyk | #info nancyk Washoe County Library System KohaCon13 Chair |
| 18:06 | tcohen | #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Córdoba, Argentina |
| 18:06 | jwagner | #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
| 18:06 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries |
| 18:06 | JDatTeTakere | info#Joanne Dillon (JD) at TeTakere, Levin, NZ |
| 18:06 | jcamins | #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services, and (past) RM for 3.12 |
| 18:06 | mduncan | #info Margo Duncan, University of Texas at Tyler, Muntz Library |
| 18:06 | pianohacker | #info Jesse Weaver, ByWater Solutions |
| 18:07 | drojf | #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin |
| 18:07 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | ko |
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| 18:08 | gmcharlt | ok |
| 18:08 | #topic Announcements | |
| 18:08 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:08 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | two minutes for folks to chime in with Koha-related annoucnements |
| 18:09 | jcamins | #info 3.12.0 was released on May 19 |
| 18:09 | edveal | #info Ed Veal, ByWater |
| 18:09 | cait | jcamins++ :) |
| 18:10 | gmcharlt | jcamins++ |
| 18:10 | #topic Update on Koha 3.8 | |
| 18:10 | Topic for #koha is now Update on Koha 3.8 (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:11 | mtompset | #info Mark Tompsett, Canada |
| 18:11 | gmcharlt | #info Koha 3.8.13 was released on 2013-05-23 |
| 18:11 | Brooke | thanks folks that contributed we <3 you |
| 18:11 | rhcl | #info rhcl = Greg Lawson, Rolling Hills Consolidated Library (I'm just here to watch the big dogs) |
| 18:12 | gmcharlt | 3.8.13 was rangi's last release as 3.8 RMaint |
| 18:12 | rangi++ | |
| 18:12 | tcohen | UNC <3 3.8.x and rangis' work |
| 18:12 | rangi++ | |
| 18:12 | cait | rangi++ :) |
| 18:12 | gmcharlt | cjh is now the current 3.8 RMaint |
| 18:13 | looks like his nick is idling, so I'll move on | |
| 18:13 | #topic Update on Koha 3.10 | |
| 18:13 | Topic for #koha is now Update on Koha 3.10 (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:13 | gmcharlt | #info Koha 3.10.6 was released on 2013-05-23 |
| 18:14 | 3.10.6 was rangi's last release as 3.10 RMaint | |
| 18:14 | rangi++ # I'm sensing a pattern here | |
| 18:14 | cait | rangi++ :) no surprise |
| 18:14 | gmcharlt | and bgkriegel is the current RMaint for 3.10 |
| 18:15 | and is not here, so... | |
| 18:15 | mtompset | rangi++ |
| 18:15 | gmcharlt | #topic Update on Koha 3.12 |
| 18:15 | Topic for #koha is now Update on Koha 3.12 (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:15 | tcohen | wait |
| 18:15 | gmcharlt | hmm? |
| 18:15 | tcohen | bug 10367 was pushed by eythian during packages build |
| 18:15 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10367 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Allow packages to work on debian wheezy |
| 18:15 | tcohen | post-release |
| 18:16 | for both 3.10 and 3.12 | |
| 18:16 | to support debian wheezy | |
| 18:16 | just wanted to note that | |
| 18:17 | gmcharlt | #info 3.12.0 was released on 2013-05-19 |
| 18:17 | jcamins: any parting comments? | |
| 18:17 | jcamins | I don't think so. |
| 18:17 | I think we came together to produce a nice, stable release. | |
| 18:17 | And, well done all. | |
| 18:17 | tcohen | jcamins++ |
| 18:17 | gmcharlt | jcamins++ |
| 18:17 | oleonard | all++ |
| 18:18 | cait | jcamins++ :) |
| 18:18 | gmcharlt | tcohen: any comments regarding the upcoming 3.12.1? |
| 18:18 | mtompset | nice PDF release notes. :) |
| 18:18 | jcamins++ | |
| 18:19 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater |
| 18:19 | tcohen | 3.no comments now |
| 18:19 | sorry | |
| 18:19 | gmcharlt | no problem |
| 18:19 | tcohen | I want to say I'll do my best |
| 18:19 | gmcharlt | moving on |
| 18:19 | #topic Update on Koha 3.14 | |
| 18:19 | Topic for #koha is now Update on Koha 3.14 (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:20 | gmcharlt | #info gmcharlt has started pushing patches |
| 18:20 | cait | yay! |
| 18:20 | drojf | are we there yet? |
| 18:20 | gmcharlt | #info biggest one so far is one implementing a course reserves feature |
| 18:21 | #info We need more folks testing and signing off on patches | |
| 18:21 | * cait | agrees with gmcharlt |
| 18:22 | cait | and please if you can run the test suite |
| 18:22 | and take a look at the coding guidelines :) | |
| 18:22 | gmcharlt | #info gmcharlt will be starting conversations with the folks who thus far have expressed interest in being module maintainers |
| 18:23 | any questions? | |
| 18:23 | tcohen | how many module mantainers have postulated? |
| 18:23 | gmcharlt | I think two, maybe three people have expressed interest |
| 18:24 | cait | could you summarize quickly what the task of the module maintainers will be? |
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| 18:24 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 18:24 | a module maintainer would be somebody who is expert in a module and who takes responsibility for maintaining a tree of vetted patches related to that module | |
| 18:25 | and (ideally) who also takes some responsibility for wrangling bugs related to that module | |
| 18:25 | as well as doing QA for that module | |
| 18:25 | oleonard | "maintaining a tree of vetted patches?" |
| 18:25 | gmcharlt | my idea is ultimately that the RM would be able to start pulling branches from the module maintainer's trees |
| 18:25 | cait | same question here |
| 18:26 | gmcharlt | rather than focusing on each and every bug that passes QA |
| 18:26 | tcohen | a benevolent dictator |
| 18:26 | gmcharlt | and even longer-term goal, depending on how things work out, is that module maintainers would get the ability to push directly to master for patches related to their modules |
| 18:27 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: linux-ish setup? |
| 18:27 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: yes |
| 18:27 | Brooke | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:27 | pianohacker | sounds like a good plan |
| 18:28 | gmcharlt | a good experiment, I hope, at least |
| 18:28 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:29 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: is there any listing/volunteer page for module maintainers? |
| 18:29 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: not yet; I'll need to trawl through the list archives |
| 18:29 | to set one up | |
| 18:29 | folks who are intersted can also contact me directly, of course | |
| 18:29 | pianohacker | okay, just curious |
| 18:30 | gmcharlt | any other questions regarding 3.14? |
| 18:31 | tcohen | no quesitons here |
| 18:31 | gmcharlt | ok, moving on |
| 18:31 | #topic KohaCon 2013 | |
| 18:31 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2013 (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:31 | nancyk | Koha reservation page has been fixed, thanks to Liz |
| 18:32 | Call for sponsors is going out later today, as are presentation confirmations | |
| 18:32 | cait | nancyk++ |
| 18:32 | nancyk | Digital flier inviting people to the conference will be out next week |
| 18:32 | Anyone have any questions or suggestions? | |
| 18:33 | gmcharlt | #info Koha reservation page has been fixed, thanks to Liz; Call for sponsors is going out later today, as are presentation confirmations; Digital flier inviting people to the conference will be out next week; |
| 18:33 | thd | To whom is the digital flier being sent? |
| 18:33 | cait | nancyk: thx for all your work, really looking forward to kohacon :) |
| 18:34 | nancyk | thanks |
| 18:34 | Fliers will go to library groups, and anywhere I can get them | |
| 18:34 | tcohen | nancyk: how is the room reservation count going? did we reach the goal? |
| 18:34 | nancyk | Things are moving along very well |
| 18:35 | We have 64 registered, but not at the hotel yet | |
| 18:35 | Some are waiting for their fiscal year to turn over | |
| 18:35 | that's all for now | |
| 18:36 | gmcharlt | nancyk++ |
| 18:36 | cait | nancyk++ |
| 18:36 | tcohen | nancyk++ |
| 18:36 | thd | nancyk: What address can be used to confirm registrations? |
| 18:37 | nancyk | I am sending them out personally, so everyone should have one as of today. Use my email for probs |
| 18:37 | nkeenerwashoecounty.us |
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| 18:37 | gmcharlt | #topic KohaCon 2014 |
| 18:37 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon 2014 (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:38 | gmcharlt | on the agenda there's a question about whether we've sent out a call for potential host sites |
| 18:38 | I don't think it has, so who wants to volunteer to put out a call for proposals to host KohaCon in 2014? | |
| 18:40 | drojf | i can do that. probably not today but in the next days# |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | #action drojf will put out a call for proposals to host KohaCon in 2014 |
| 18:40 | cait | drojf++ |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | moving on |
| 18:40 | #topic Version numbering | |
| 18:40 | Topic for #koha is now Version numbering (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:41 | gmcharlt | does anybody wish to adopt this agenda item? |
| 18:42 | pianohacker | everyone has an opinion, nobody wants to take responsibility for starting the discussion |
| 18:42 | thd | I just want the question to be clear. |
| 18:42 | oleonard | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_5_June_2013 |
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| 18:43 | oleonard | If no one wants to raise the issue and advocate the position I suggest we move on. |
| 18:43 | thd | pianohacker: The discussion has been had at more length than many thought worthwhile. |
| 18:43 | pianohacker | thd: Yeah, that was my understanding. Bikeshedded |
| 18:43 | cait | so can we move on? :) |
| 18:43 | pianohacker | yup, vote to move on |
| 18:44 | gmcharlt | admittedly, this only delays the question -- but I suggest that version number questions be restricted to the period when roles for the next release are being considered |
| 18:44 | thd | oleonard: If we move on then how has the issue been settled or has the issue been dropped? |
| 18:44 | oleonard | thd: With no one here to advocate for a change there is no reason to discuss it |
| 18:45 | drojf | thd: put it on the agenda for another meeting and it is back. i guess |
| 18:45 | pianohacker | so dropped, with the release after pi continuing the trend and being 3.16 |
| 18:45 | cait | we are going to have 3.14 (codename pi) |
| 18:45 | jcamins | pianohacker: or, more precisely, dropped and no decision made. There has been no solid proposal, just a lot of paint. |
| 18:45 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: I'd say the question is dropped for now, with the question of how to number the next release after 3.14 to be decided during the election period |
| 18:46 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: Sounds good, let's throw that on the minutes |
| 18:46 | tcohen | +1 # gmcharlt's proposal |
| 18:46 | cait | +1 |
| 18:46 | thd | oleonard: As posted on the wiki agenda the issue was only to vote on a question which had already been discussed at length already on the mailing list. |
| 18:47 | oleonard | +1 # gmcharlt's proposal |
| 18:47 | thd | +1 # gmcharlt postponing the dullest question ever |
| 18:47 | gmcharlt | #agreed Any decision on the question of how to number the version of Koha following 3.14 is deferred to the project role election period |
| 18:49 | #topic Action items from the 7 May 2013 meeting | |
| 18:49 | Topic for #koha is now Action items from the 7 May 2013 meeting (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:49 | gmcharlt | #info ifrst action item is Test all the things! |
| 18:49 | so, have all the things been tested? | |
| 18:49 | no? | |
| 18:49 | wahanui | http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg |
| 18:49 | * cait | reports that more testing is needed |
| 18:49 | gmcharlt | cait++ |
| 18:50 | cait | Test all the things! |
| 18:50 | tcohen | test coverage should be improved |
| 18:51 | gmcharlt | there was also an action item for BobB to test reserves |
| 18:51 | BobB: anything to report? | |
| 18:52 | cait | hm wrong time I think |
| 18:52 | gmcharlt | yep |
| 18:52 | so moving on | |
| 18:52 | #topic Decide time of next meeting | |
| 18:52 | Topic for #koha is now Decide time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Koha General Meeting, 5 June 2013) | |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | going by our normal cycle, I think that would be Wednesday, 3 July 2013 |
| 18:53 | davidnind | Time for next meeting would be 10:00 UTC |
| 18:53 | tcohen | is there a kohacon13 planning meeting soon? |
| 18:53 | thd | Wed 3 is too soon after ALA |
| 18:54 | nancyk | 26th of june 18UTC for KohaCon 13 planning |
| 18:54 | thd | I suggest Wed. 10 July. |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt | #info Next KohaCon 13 planning meeting is on 26 June 2013 at 18UTC |
| 18:55 | oleonard | Either is fine with me, I don't object to the 10th. |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt | ditto |
| 18:56 | OK, so +1/-1 for Wednesday, 10 July 2013 at 10:00 UTC+0 ? | |
| 18:56 | tcohen | +1 |
| 18:56 | oleonard | +1 |
| 18:56 | cait | +1 |
| 18:56 | thd | +1 |
| 18:56 | davidnind | +1 |
| 18:56 | drojf | +1 |
| 18:56 | mtompset | +1 |
| 18:57 | JDatTeTakere | +1 |
| 18:57 | gmcharlt | #agreed Next general meeting wlll be held on Wednesday, 10 July 2013 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
| 18:57 | and ... we've run out of agenda items! | |
| 18:57 | tcohen | do we have a calendargoogle for koha stufF? |
| 18:58 | mtompset | I'm assuming to help co-ordinate various meetings, right, tcohen? |
| 18:58 | thd | tcohen: If we did that would not be a free software calendar. |
| 18:58 | * tcohen | hides |
| 18:59 | tcohen | I belive we could have such a tool, maybe a hosted one |
| 18:59 | mtompset | If the purpose it to co-ordinate meetings, it wouldn't have to be google. The point is a generally shared calendar. |
| 18:59 | tcohen | nevermind,if I come up with a proposal, I'll make it |
| 18:59 | drojf | do whatever you like on google, don't make it in any way obligatory for me to use it |
| 18:59 | gmcharlt | I agree that some sort of calendar would be nice |
| 18:59 | thd | tcohen: I would suggest creating a comprehensive calendar page at wiki.koha-community.org instead. |
| 18:59 | oleonard | MediaWiki plugin? |
| 18:59 | gmcharlt | tcohen: perhaps talk with wizzyrea? |
| 18:59 | tcohen | i'll do it |
| 19:00 | touche drojf | |
| 19:00 | cait | i think we have a calendar on the kc-website |
| 19:00 | we just don't use it very often | |
| 19:00 | drojf | heh |
| 19:00 | gmcharlt | cait: yeah, I vaguely remember that |
| 19:00 | :/ | |
| 19:00 | OK, thanks folks! | |
| 19:00 | #endmeeting | |
| 19:00 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 5 June 2013 at 18:00 UTC | |
| 19:00 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Jun 5 19:00:46 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:00 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-06-05-18.05.html | |
| 19:00 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]3-06-05-18.05.txt | |
| 19:00 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]05-18.05.log.html | |
| 19:01 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 10 July 2013 at 10:00 UTC+0 | |
| 19:01 | davidnind | gmcharlt++ |
| 19:01 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 19:02 | thd | tcohen: As drojf stated anyone is free to start a calendar anywhere but we may already have some community resources which should serve the purpose. |
| 19:03 | mtompset | I couldn't see a calendar, as I would expect a calendar, but I do see an "Events" section. |
| 19:03 | tcohen | thd: if we have that resources, I'll try to focus on that for my proposal |
| 19:03 | i mentioned google calendar as i use it for my personal stuff | |
| 19:03 | but agree is not the best approach | |
| 19:04 | bye #Koha | |
| 19:05 | davidnind left #koha | |
| 19:05 | thd | tcohen: We have moved away from dependencies on non-free software from Google which we have had at one time. Google has a bad habit of dropping or changing features and as their implementations are not generally free software we cannot simply fork their proprietary products. |
| 19:06 | pianohacker | see greader |
| 19:07 | thd | s/dependencies/relying upon/ |
| 19:07 | jcamins | Fortunately before he left tcohen indicated that he would look into the community's existing unused calendar tools. |
| 19:07 | oleonard | And fortunately before he left he agreed that Google Calendar wasn't the best approach |
| 19:07 | drojf | i have offered to end friendships for putting my data into google calendar ;) |
| 19:08 | thd | :) |
| 19:09 | drojf | do we still do the unwritten "not two times in a row on the same continent" thing for kohacon? |
| 19:09 | oleonard | I assume so |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 19:09 | I think it was even written somewhere. | |
| 19:11 | gmcharlt | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]onference_Bidding woudl be the closest |
| 19:11 | which suggests yes, different continent | |
| 19:12 | but (at least as written) doesn't settle on a 4 vs. 6 approach | |
| 19:12 | cait | 4 vs 6 |
| 19:12 | ? | |
| 19:13 | hm it has a note at the top: N.B. This is a proposal / request for comment, it is not the will of the Community. (Yet. Bend! I has chocolate!) | |
| 19:13 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 19:13 | maybe it's a small question? | |
| 19:13 | cait | i think maybe avoid the same in twice in a row |
| 19:13 | * gmcharlt | favors 6 (or even 7, if somebody figured out a way to subsidize folk's travel to Antarctica) |
| 19:14 | cait | and it's always going to matter who offers to host |
| 19:14 | * jcamins | would favor 6. |
| 19:14 | jcamins | But doesn't actually care. |
| 19:14 | * oleonard | would not favor a hackfest which required the wearing of mittens |
| 19:15 | pianohacker | If only because it reflects a desire to spread the travel pain around, definitely 6 |
| 19:15 | toronto is a long way from buenos aires | |
| 19:15 | gmcharlt | yeah, lumping North and South America together would be a bit weird |
| 19:16 | pianohacker | what else would you put together, though? |
| 19:17 | gmcharlt | that's might point, I wouldn't lump |
| 19:17 | *my point | |
| 19:17 | cait | europe has the disadvantage of too many countries in not a lot of space... hard for everyone to get a turn ;) |
| 19:19 | drojf | yes, we deserve to be regarded as several continents ;) |
| 19:20 | jcamins | drojf: the beer continent, the cheese continent, and the salted taffey continent? |
| 19:20 | Or salted licorice. | |
| 19:21 | * oleonard | shudders |
| 19:21 | jcamins | oleonard: it's called salmiak. |
| 19:22 | * jcamins | learned this from #evergreen. |
| 19:23 | drojf | and it's lovely |
| 19:24 | jcamins | drojf: apparently it's very polarizing. |
| 19:24 | oleonard | What directory are plugins uploaded to? |
| 19:25 | drojf | jcamins: this is polarizing ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]iakki_Koskenkorva |
| 19:26 | jcamins | drojf: wow. That is. |
| 19:26 | oleonard: the directory set in koha-conf.xml. | |
| 19:26 | drojf | we should have kohacon in finland ;) |
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| 19:27 | rhcl | Thailand |
| 19:27 | oleonard | Thanks jcamins |
| 19:28 | jcamins | There's an Evergreen library in Finland. Not sure I know of any Koha libraries in Finland (not that this means there aren't). |
| 19:28 | rhcl | nobody has talked recently of having a joint EG-Koha conference |
| 19:29 | jcamins | rhcl: it would be incumbent on someone proposing to coordinate that. |
| 19:29 | rhcl | above my pay grade |
| 19:33 | oleonard | Coding guideline note: If you add a class to something in the template because you want it to look different, make sure that class exists in the CSS |
| 19:33 | jcamins | oleonard: maybe the class was just to make it possible to customize in the future? |
| 19:34 | oleonard | Or maybe it was because I typed a class I thought existed but didn't? |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Or that. |
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| 19:43 | pianohacker | oleonard: no no go for the omniscient, forward-planning defence |
| 19:45 | * oleonard | hops in his time machine and sets it for the future |
| 19:45 | * cait | has mac n cheese yay! |
| 20:07 | cait | now i wonder about the minutes :) |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Me too! |
| 20:09 | cait | we are too curious for our own good |
| 20:09 | rangi | lol |
| 20:09 | 2 secs | |
| 20:10 | talking about hiring an in house developer | |
| 20:10 | apparently no ll libs do it, and community ones only ever do bugfixes | |
| 20:11 | mtompset | pianohacker: Alaska and Canada, because Alaska is an island in the middle of nowhere. ;) |
| 20:11 | rangi | apparently marcelr, tcohen, oleonard (and all the ones i missed) dont exist |
| 20:12 | jcamins | I think Mathieu would be a little insulted. |
| 20:12 | rangi | oh yes mathieu too |
| 20:12 | cait | do i have to read the whole thing? |
| 20:12 | or will you give a hint? | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Wait, really? |
| 20:13 | 3 upgrades a year is a lot? | |
| 20:13 | rangi | heh |
| 20:13 | about page 3 cait | |
| 20:13 | cait | in ils world yes |
| 20:13 | found it | |
| 20:13 | thx :) | |
| 20:13 | jcamins | cait: I don't know, my stance is that minor updates should be *so* minor that you can have them monthly. |
| 20:14 | rangi | oh dobrica |
| 20:14 | jcamins | Yes, Dobrica. |
| 20:14 | rangi | theres tons! |
| 20:14 | eggs | |
| 20:14 | if thats the level of research the librarians there can do, .... | |
| 20:14 | anyway, i just felt i needed to point out that it was wrong | |
| 20:15 | maybe ill do a blog post | |
| 20:15 | cait | rangi: does it really matter? they are not using 'community koha' |
| 20:15 | jcamins | Wow, what a weird word: Лусии |
| 20:15 | cait | lucy? |
| 20:15 | jcamins | (It's "Lucia" as in "Saint Lucia") |
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| 20:15 | cait | aah |
| 20:16 | jcamins | cait: but it looks totally wrong as an ordinary nominative noun! It's just sitting there going "hey, what? You thought I was Russian?" |
| 20:16 | cait | lol |
| 20:16 | rhcl | rangi: yes |
| 20:17 | yea, we were up to talk to them a couple of years ago | |
| 20:17 | rangi | cait: it does when they are saying things about koha |
| 20:17 | * drojf | claims kind-of-an-inhouse-programmer status ^^ |
| 20:17 | cait | rangi: yeah adding to the confusion :( |
| 20:18 | rangi | right time to take kids to school bbiab |
| 20:18 | cait | drojf: you are totally :) |
| 20:18 | can I count too? bsz's own library also uses koha :) | |
| 20:18 | hehe | |
| 20:18 | drojf | yay we are legion ;) |
| 20:19 | jcamins | drojf: well done! That phrase gives a lot of non-native English speakers trouble. |
| 20:20 | drojf | ?? |
| 20:20 | jcamins | "We are legion." |
| 20:21 | A lot of people think it's "We are legions" because "legion" is a singular noun. | |
| 20:21 | drojf | i think anonymous fixed that ;) |
| 20:21 | jcamins | True of native English speakers as well, actually. |
| 20:21 | drojf | you can actually say it in german too, but it is not used very often |
| 20:24 | cait | :) |
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| 20:43 | mtompset | legion?! Is there a demonic possession somewhere? ;) |
| 20:43 | tcohen | we had a legion |
| 20:44 | "The legion" | |
| 20:44 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A[…]na_Davis_Cup_team | |
| 20:45 | mtompset | Ah... tennis team. |
| 20:46 | tcohen | also an infamous legion |
| 20:50 | mtompset | YES! YES! YES! |
| 20:50 | I have gotten a link to fake login as me! | |
| 20:51 | Now to rip out the fake login as me and put in a login in as someone real. | |
| 20:51 | gmcharlt | mtompset: what are you up to, anyway? |
| 20:51 | tcohen | shibboleth |
| 20:51 | mtompset | Okay... I've set up simple saml php... |
| 20:52 | I've got it working to test against OpenIDP | |
| 20:52 | I have hacked koha to redirect to a php script I created from a copy of authenticate.php | |
| 20:52 | which then calls a backchannel perl script. | |
| 20:52 | and then redirects to the OPAC | |
| 20:53 | I started this work based on biblibre's shibboleth hack. | |
| 20:54 | Though, I think this could get integrated as a RESTFUL Login API . | |
| 20:54 | tcohen | do u think it is possible to do it using oerl? |
| 20:54 | perl? | |
| 20:54 | wahanui | perl is, like, different things to different people |
| 20:55 | mtompset | Do what simplesamlphp does in perl? |
| 20:55 | Mmmmm.... I'm not going to try, if this passing stuff works. | |
| 20:55 | tcohen | do what that php script does |
| 20:55 | mtompset | first, it does the saml authentication to the source. |
| 20:56 | upon successful authentication, it calls a "backchannel" script which sets up the user session information and returns the session id, the php script then puts the session id into the cookie and redirects to the OPAC. | |
| 20:58 | I've been working off a HTML page just to avoid the session cookie from being tinkered with... but now that the link on the testing HTML page works... I can try to set it up in my hacked up OPAC and confirm it works. :) | |
| 20:59 | tcohen | great mtompset, congratulations |
| 20:59 | mtompset | the backchannel script is currently called POST with the attributes returned by the authentication source yaml-ized. |
| 20:59 | I have code to de-yaml-ize it, and map it like the ldap stuff. | |
| 21:00 | So, the login by email equivalent, except using simplesamlphp (or whatever other authenticating system), should follow from this. | |
| 21:23 | gmcharlt | mtompset: I know next to nothing about Shibboleth -- is it a thing with it that PHP is either required, or at least it is much easier to support using PHP? |
| 21:24 | mtompset | SimpleSAMLPHP provides Shibboleth 1.3 and SAML 2.0 support rather easily, and it is available as a package under Ubuntu. I have yet to confirm it is under Debian, but I would suspect it is. |
| 21:25 | The PHP authentication hacked script I have would need to be written for the users context, but I am assuming that is do-able. | |
| 21:25 | The Perl side of it will do the translation of the authenticated attributes and do the log in into Koha. | |
| 21:26 | Effectively, the perl-side becomes a REST-ful API for logging in. | |
| 21:27 | I still have to work out the log out part... but right now, that is low priority. :) | |
| 21:27 | gmcharlt | a la /svc/authentication? :) |
| 21:27 | pianohacker | svc++ |
| 21:27 | mtompset | Yes, but this doesn't pass a username and password. :P |
| 21:28 | pianohacker | extend 'er to then |
| 21:29 | mtompset | Because, unless the SAML was implemented in Perl, you won't know the password... uid is, however, a typical attribute you likely will know, as it email address. |
| 21:29 | ^it^is^ | |
| 21:31 | gmcharlt | what about Net::SAML? |
| 21:31 | mtompset | I was concerned about licensing issues, and bug fixes if it is broken, etc. etc. |
| 21:31 | SimpleSAMLPHP externally is much more active. | |
| 21:32 | Net::SAML and Net::SAML2 have bad reps. :) | |
| 21:33 | tcohen | besides the simplesamlphp idp, why do u need to hack php? |
| 21:34 | mtompset | Also, gmcharlt, svc/authentication doesn't add users. |
| 21:34 | To pass back the attributes to perl. | |
| 21:36 | The SAML processing is done in the PHP, not Perl. | |
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| 21:37 | wizzyrea | pianohacker++ |
| 21:37 | so glad you're back. | |
| 21:37 | pianohacker | thanks, wizzyrea |
| 21:37 | good to be back :) | |
| 21:38 | tcohen | wizzyrea: is it possible to have a calendar on k-c.org? |
| 21:38 | mtompset | I was just thinking that, tcohen. ;) |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | for what purpose :) |
| 21:39 | (the answer is yes0 | |
| 21:39 | anything is possible | |
| 21:39 | tcohen | 1) graphical visualization of important Koha dates |
| 21:39 | 2) ical or something compatible, to have it on our smartphones or any gadget we have | |
| 21:40 | mtompset | (translation team meetings, general meetings, annual conference dates, etc.) |
| 21:41 | tcohen | (string freeze, feature freeze, release dates, etc) |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | any other requirements? |
| 21:41 | tcohen | i got hammered for proposing using evil calendar |
| 21:41 | jcamins | 3) so people know what to have for dinner, in case they forget that pizza is for dinner on Fridays, etc. |
| 21:43 | cait | :) |
| 21:43 | tcohen: you live :) | |
| 21:44 | tcohen | :D |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | oh I don't bother saying the g word anymore |
| 21:45 | i use it for mail, youtube, and a little plus and that's about it. | |
| 21:47 | tcohen | i depend on the calendar @ work, don't forget my memory fades, as I'm 122 |
| 21:47 | cait | didn't you already turn 123? |
| 21:47 | tcohen | that'd be 18th june |
| 21:48 | pianohacker | jcamins: as a college student I can authoritatively state that pizza is for every dinner |
| 21:48 | once thanks to a bunch of presentations I had pizza 4 days in a row | |
| 21:48 | that was... entertaining | |
| 21:48 | jcamins | pianohacker: yeah, but it's an international phenomenon in #koha. |
| 21:48 | Ugh. I can't see the screen the glare is so bad. | |
| 21:48 | mtompset | Close your eyes. The reason will change. :P |
| 21:49 | jcamins | I suppose it will. |
| 21:49 | mtompset | I thought fish was on Fridays? Why Pizza? |
| 21:50 | jcamins | mtompset: because magnuse makes pizza sound delicious. |
| 21:51 | mtompset | But I though cookies were delicious. :P |
| 21:51 | ^though^thought^ | |
| 21:52 | pianohacker | quick git trivia question; is there any way to update master to origin/master when master isn't checked out? |
| 21:52 | jcamins | Aren't they both? |
| 21:52 | tcohen | rangi: did you arrange this to have access to a big kitchen @ reno? |
| 21:52 | jcamins | pianohacker: not that I know of. You're going to have to check out master at some point. |
| 21:52 | pianohacker | jcamins: Curses! An extra second in my workflow! :) |
| 21:53 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: you're not a Culture Ship Mind, you can take it ;) |
| 21:53 | tcohen | doesn't git pull do that? |
| 21:54 | gmcharlt | tcohen: no; git pull == git fetch + git merge |
| 21:54 | pianohacker | hehe |
| 21:54 | gmcharlt | but git merge is done on the current, checked-out branch |
| 21:54 | mtompset | Goodness... I knew that. :P |
| 21:54 | tcohen | i miss understood the question |
| 21:55 | pianohacker | tcohen: I have branch "potato" checked out, was wondering if there was a way to update "master" to "origin/master" without checking out "master" first |
| 21:55 | mtompset | wants to do a git pull without having to issue the checkout... because that might require a commit. :P |
| 21:55 | jcamins | pianohacker: but why would you want to update master without having it checked out? |
| 21:55 | mtompset | ^He wants^ |
| 21:56 | pianohacker | it was an idle curiosity :) Mainly so I can get all the branches in my git repo up to date without disturbing the working tree on my demo server |
| 21:56 | tcohen | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]t-checking-it-out |
| 21:57 | jcamins | mtompset: right, but that's not actually a reason to do it, just an explanation of what he's trying to do. |
| 21:57 | pianohacker | thanks to the godforsaken building wifi, I can only get stuff into github by ssh reverse-forwarding to my demo server for work, pulling from my laptop to the demo server, then pushing from there |
| 21:57 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 21:57 | pianohacker | That somehow works in a second, though a git push directly to github takes a minute or so then fails |
| 21:58 | don't ask me why | |
| 21:58 | jcamins | So why are you trying to update master on your local repo? |
| 21:58 | rangi | tcohen: not yet |
| 21:58 | mtompset | pianohacker: Reminds me of http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-04-07/ |
| 21:59 | pianohacker | So I can get my github up to date |
| 21:59 | I've already done it the sane way, this is just curiosity | |
| 21:59 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 21:59 | What do you keep in your master branch? | |
| 22:00 | pianohacker | jcamins: Just upstream master |
| 22:00 | jcamins | In that case, I suggest git push mycrazyremote origin/master:master |
| 22:01 | pianohacker | mtompset: yeah, basically |
| 22:01 | jcamins: Yeah | |
| 22:02 | mtompset | I figured as such, since you complained about that extra second in your workflow. :) |
| 22:02 | pianohacker | tcohen: that looks like it would work but is crazy enough to convince me that I'm crazy |
| 22:02 | mtompset | And it is the firewall, of course. :) |
| 22:02 | tcohen | heh |
| 22:03 | pianohacker | naw, blaming the ISP is better |
| 22:03 | tcohen | infrastructure question: do we use gitosis? or gitolite? neither? |
| 22:03 | pianohacker | then it's a firewall protected by several layers of useless tech support |
| 22:04 | rangi | tcohen: gitolite |
| 22:05 | gmcharlt and I can edit the config | |
| 22:05 | if you need anything | |
| 22:07 | tcohen | sorry, phone rangi |
| 22:07 | we are having issues | |
| 22:07 | with our gitolite | |
| 22:07 | (with redmine) | |
| 22:08 | rangi | oh? |
| 22:08 | pianohacker | augh r/crappydesign is in comic sans |
| 22:08 | tcohen | @ unc, we use that |
| 22:08 | huginn` | tcohen: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 22:08 | jcamins | pianohacker: let's think about this for a moment... |
| 22:09 | tcohen | and wanted to know if updating gitolite was a pain or not |
| 22:09 | pianohacker | it's appropriate, of course, but still painful |
| 22:09 | tcohen | (i.e.if i have to do it or if i can delegate to the production guys) |
| 22:10 | gmcharlt | tcohen: are you currently using v2 or v3? |
| 22:11 | rangi | tcohen: so far ive found it really painless |
| 22:11 | tcohen | v2.3-35-gd59bc35 |
| 22:11 | (i didn't do the install, and they wouldn't let me maintain it, but i took control yesterday) | |
| 22:12 | (after several problems related to redmine, besides being ugly) | |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | tcohen - still experimental, not many events, but: http://koha-community.org/calendar/ |
| 22:13 | gmcharlt | tcohen: it's not painful, but personally I wouldn't delegate to anybody who wasn't reasonably famiiliar with git and git hooks |
| 22:13 | tcohen | understood, thanks gmcharlt |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea: you rule, you know that? | |
| 22:14 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: groovy |
| 22:14 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | naw, I just have wicked google fu :p |
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| 22:14 | wizzyrea | google searching. |
| 22:15 | tcohen | wizzyrea++ |
| 22:17 | wizzyrea | agenda? |
| 22:17 | wahanui | agenda is a wiki |
| 22:17 | wizzyrea | irc meeting? |
| 22:17 | gr. | |
| 22:17 | theoretically we could put the agenda on the event on the calendar | |
| 22:18 | gmcharlt | event editnig permissions are predicated on having a WP account? |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | yep, with permissions, which is probably an argument to leave it on the wiki |
| 22:19 | http://koha-community.org/ai1e[…]445/?instance_id= | |
| 22:19 | (for example) | |
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| 22:20 | gmcharlt | snazzy |
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| 22:21 | gmcharlt | I think wiki for now, but I could imagine a grand unification project that ties both WP and Mediawiki to an LDAP directory |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | cuz'n we can do that now ;) |
| 22:22 | gmcharlt | heh - http://wordpress.org/plugins/wpmuldap/ might be areason to keep it MU |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | oh all wordpress is MU now, you just have to enable it |
| 22:22 | (and it's still mu anyway) | |
| 22:23 | mtompset | MU? |
| 22:23 | wahanui | hmmm... MU is a speaker, AR is a little book |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | multiuser/multiblog |
| 22:23 | mtompset | I thought MU was mutual understanding. ;) |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | gr I can't work on this now but will go back to it later. |
| 22:30 | pianohacker | @seen srdjan |
| 22:30 | huginn` | pianohacker: I have not seen srdjan. |
| 22:31 | pianohacker | Does he come on IRC at all? |
| 22:31 | wizzyrea | try papa |
| 22:31 | @seen papa | |
| 22:31 | huginn` | wizzyrea: papa was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 36 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <papa> Like when it had MARC in it, i'd skip immediately :) |
| 22:31 | pianohacker | Ah, thanks |
| 22:31 | @later tell papa updated patch #1 for 10320, thanks for the feedback | |
| 22:31 | huginn` | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:33 | pianohacker | http://www.tannr.com/herp-derp-youtube-comments/ |
| 22:34 | druthb | pianohacker++ |
| 22:34 | pianohacker | no-restart install for firefox, and it's... amazing |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | bug 10320 |
| 22:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
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| 22:38 | pianohacker | wizzyrea: First patch since I got back |
| 22:38 | cait | congrats :) |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | and boy what a doozy |
| 22:38 | that's fantastic. | |
| 22:38 | looks and works nicely too! | |
| 22:39 | pianohacker | thanks :) |
| 22:54 | eythian | hi |
| 22:55 | rhcl | hi |
| 22:57 | cait | wizzyrea: can we get a screenshot? no overdrive in germany |
| 22:57 | eythian | hi cait, what are you doing still up? |
| 22:57 | cait | i was finishing my latest distance study course :) |
| 22:58 | eythian | ah, cool |
| 22:58 | oh, if you want some more, Catalyst did this website: https://www.open2study.com/ | |
| 22:58 | cait | and now i am going to bed - still curious how overdrive looks like :) |
| 22:59 | eythian: rangi showed me already - but i better stick to those i need for my degree for now :) | |
| 22:59 | eythian | that's taking the easy way out! |
| 22:59 | wizzyrea | I don't have a screenshot |
| 22:59 | cait | ooh |
| 23:00 | night all :) | |
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| 23:17 | Brooke | o/ |
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| 23:39 | eythian | http://seriouslyjs.org/ <-- neat |
| 23:40 | tcohen | hi eythian |
| 23:40 | eythian | hello |
| 23:40 | wahanui | bonjour, eythian |
| 23:43 | tcohen | that's awesome eythian |
| 23:43 | eythian | it really is |
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| 23:55 | jcamins | My brother was docked in a course in his second MA degree program at Arizona State for providing the citation to the original text of an article rather than a reproduction of the article which he had not yet received. |
| 23:56 | That's kind of absurd. | |
| 23:56 | Especially since apparently the reason he lost points was "his citation was wrong." | |
| 23:57 | Just when I think that faculty members should be relied upon to teach citation, someone comes along and demonstrates that librarians _are_ necessary in that connection. | |
| 23:58 | dcook | O_o |
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