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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:33 | rangi | so lets say 500grams |
| 00:33 | ahh he's gone | |
| 00:34 | eythian | I think his conversion was wrong, 40USD seemed more likely for the 1KG |
| 00:34 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:36 | dcook | ... |
| 00:36 | * dcook | opens and closes his mouth |
| 00:36 | rangi | heh |
| 00:37 | coffee | |
| 00:37 | http://shop.peoplescoffee.co.n[…]opian-yirgacheffe | |
| 00:39 | dcook | Mmm, I'll believe you...this time |
| 00:39 | Coffee good in New Zealand? | |
| 00:40 | rangi | it is in wellington |
| 00:41 | dcook | :D |
| 00:41 | To be honest, I'm not much of a coffee drinker, but the coffee back in Canada wasn't really very good | |
| 00:41 | Although Tim Horton's can get you through anything | |
| 00:41 | rangi | there were a couple of nice places i found in vancouver |
| 00:41 | cjh | mmmhhmm donuts |
| 00:41 | bag | cindy our bookkeeper's husband roasts his own - I get some of that from time to time - and that's goog |
| 00:41 | dcook | 2 hours of sleep? Have a double double and you're wired for the next two days |
| 00:41 | bag | good |
| 00:41 | rangi | but yeah on average, it was pretty average |
| 00:42 | dcook | Where did you find in Vancouver, rangi? |
| 00:43 | rangi | it was a random one, about 2 blocks from the hotel in the direction of stanley park |
| 00:43 | and suprisingly (or not) the place in the university where the hackfest was on was decent too | |
| 00:49 | dcook | Oh yeah? |
| 00:49 | I don't even remember a place at the hackfest | |
| 00:49 | Which hotel were you in? | |
| 00:49 | rangi | the one the conf was in |
| 00:50 | bag | heya druthb |
| 00:50 | druthb | heya, bag |
| 00:50 | dcook | Mmm, right |
| 00:50 | bag | going to star trek tonight |
| 00:50 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]php?s=Koha&p=Koha |
| 00:50 | lets keep that outflow up :-) | |
| 00:50 | bag | our first date - and the first time ginny has a babysitter :) |
| 00:50 | dcook | I actually worked in the building next door. West Georgia is a pretty good street |
| 00:50 | druthb | Yay! :) Have fun, bag! |
| 00:50 | rangi | ohh have fun |
| 00:51 | bag | did you like the movie? |
| 00:51 | druthb | *loved* it. |
| 00:51 | bag | great great! |
| 00:52 | eythian | bag: saw that last night |
| 00:52 | bag | you like it? |
| 00:53 | eythian | It's quite good. A few things I wasn't so fussed on, but still well worth the watch. |
| 00:53 | Definitely fun. | |
| 00:53 | bag | shit I can't go now |
| 00:53 | :P | |
| 00:53 | heh | |
| 00:54 | dcook | eythian: Yeah, I've heard some mixed things |
| 00:55 | bag | oh thanks dcook I am definitely not going now :( |
| 00:55 | * druthb | pokes bag with her pointy stick. |
| 00:55 | bag | thanks |
| 00:55 | heh | |
| 00:56 | druthb | Go watch it, silly. |
| 00:56 | dcook | I'm totes going to see it sometime as well. Hmm, maybe I'll go tonight... |
| 00:56 | My partner has already seen it, so I think I might have to go solo | |
| 00:57 | * dcook | might be more of a Star Wars fan than a Star Trek fan...well if you exclude the 2000s... |
| 00:57 | dcook | Or was that the last 90s... |
| 00:57 | I think I've just blocked out the newer Star Wars movies | |
| 00:57 | eythian | The problem is, star wars is only 3 movies, whereas star trek as a lot more canon to draw from |
| 00:58 | cjh | I thought there was only 3 star wars movies? |
| 00:58 | s/was/were/ | |
| 00:58 | and beaten to the punch line too :) | |
| 00:58 | dcook | :p |
| 00:59 | True, although I thought the Star Wars novels added quite a bit to the universe | |
| 00:59 | * dcook | says feeling like such a stereotype |
| 00:59 | dcook | I said last night that I was proud of my nerdiness though, so I'll stand by it :p |
| 01:01 | Wow, 63 people for Kohacon. Not bad | |
| 01:02 | Wish that I would've been at that meeting...my talk could have 15 minutes shaved off as well | |
| 02:16 | mtompset | Star Wars is 6 movies, though the pre-quels kind of sucked by comparison. |
| 02:18 | eythian | mtompset: 3 mocies. |
| 02:18 | *movies. | |
| 02:19 | mtompset | You have episodes 1 through 6, though 4-6 came first. |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | errrr |
| 02:19 | eythian | No, they never made 1-3. I remember them talking about it though. |
| 02:19 | * wizzyrea | wonders where eythian's sarcasm mark is |
| 02:20 | eythian | pity, they could have been good I reckon |
| 02:20 | * mtompset | agree with wizzyrea. |
| 02:20 | agrees with wizzyrea. | |
| 02:22 | druthb | mtompset: you can assume eythian is being sarcastic--or at least mildly ironic--any time he's awake. :) |
| 02:22 | eythian | I've been teaching myself to sleep-IRC, if that helps any. |
| 02:23 | druthb | hehe |
| 02:23 | mtompset | I think that is what I'm doing now. |
| 02:23 | I just woke up from an early evening nap. | |
| 02:23 | eythian | wahanui: paste |
| 02:23 | wahanui | I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 02:24 | eythian | wahanui: eat paste |
| 02:24 | wahanui | eythian: sorry... |
| 02:24 | eythian | wahanui: eat paste is <reply>http://dangerousminds.net/comm[…]ibrary_paste_1908 |
| 02:24 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 02:31 | mtompset | And the new Star Trek movie is interesting. Though, the villan's character doesn't work for me. |
| 02:32 | eythian | I had trouble not seeing him as Sherlock Holmes. |
| 02:33 | * wizzyrea | notices you are discussing benedict cumberbatch - swoons. |
| 02:34 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:37 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8cCPH1qnYI |
| 02:38 | oh LOVE montreal... not OF montreal. | |
| 02:39 | dcook | :p |
| 02:40 | wizzyrea | it's not such a stretch to pretend you're in antarctica from here :P |
| 02:40 | dcook | hehe, true as |
| 02:40 | It's rather cold in the office today... | |
| 02:41 | I think my hands are turning purple | |
| 02:41 | * dcook | might be slightly exaggerating |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 02:41 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (2:00 PM NZST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | hm that's quite nice actually |
| 02:41 | nice to see a humidity somewhere below 80% | |
| 02:43 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 02:43 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (12:30 PM EST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:43 | dcook | Mrow |
| 03:07 | * eythian | really needs to make a marcgrep that extracts records that only match a pattern. |
| 03:07 | eythian | I think I've said that before. |
| 03:17 | mtompset | That would be useful. :) |
| 03:18 | would you do it from the XML field or the koha table fields? | |
| 03:18 | eythian | no, from the MARC records I work on on disk |
| 03:18 | To find records that match a problematic pattern for my migration scripts, say. | |
| 03:19 | mtompset | Ah. |
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| 04:06 | eythian | wahanui: is it beer o'clock yet? |
| 04:06 | ... | |
| 04:06 | :< | |
| 04:08 | trea | mayhap so |
| 04:18 | mtompset | Are you trying to teach wahanui to be a boozer, eythian? |
| 04:22 | zebran00b joined #koha | |
| 04:23 | zebran00b | is there a marcedit ninja in the house? |
| 04:25 | mtompset | Not I, but you could ask your question anyways. :) |
| 04:28 | zebran00b joined #koha | |
| 04:31 | zebran00b | When I swap 090$a$b to 952$o in MarcEdit for books with multiple copies/volumes, it only gets added to the first item |
| 04:38 | mtompset | Okay, I have a counter question, because I'm not a marcedit ninja. |
| 04:39 | Assuming that your swap leaves 090$a$b intact, does doing the swap again update the second one? | |
| 04:42 | zebran00b | doing a second swap adds a second $o to the first 952 |
| 04:42 | mtompset | Oh. Yuck. That would be bad. |
| 04:43 | zebran00b | yup |
| 04:43 | I guess another possibility is to modify the MARC framework in Koha somehow, but I wouldn't know where to begin | |
| 04:47 | mtompset | And sadly, neither would I. |
| 04:49 | And unfortunately, my library colleague who I would ask is probably on lunch right now. | |
| 04:55 | zebran00b | I'm thinking there's a regular expression for this |
| 04:56 | wizzyrea | @quote add <zebran00b> I'm thinking there's a regular expression for this |
| 04:56 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #251 added. |
| 04:56 | cjh | heh |
| 04:56 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 04:56 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #51: "jwagner thinks true joy is not wanting to do a telecon, and finding out the other person has forgotten about it & left for the day :-)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 07:35 PM, January 20, 2010) |
| 04:56 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 04:56 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 04:57 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #114: "chris_n: maybe you mean black magic with reference to zebra? ;-) ; wizzyrea: correction: black magic of zebra :D ; sekjal: correction: black and white striped magic of zebra .... ; rhcl: zebra sounds like a skunk ; chris_n thinks is may smell occasionally too, like a pole cat." (added by wizzyrea at 04:49 PM, January 18, 2011) |
| 04:57 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 04:57 | wizzyrea | that's a good one. |
| 04:57 | @quote random | |
| 04:57 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #219: "You can't hit a perl module in the face. You can only hit it in its package!" (added by wizzyrea at 03:03 PM, October 10, 2012) |
| 04:57 | wizzyrea | *snicker* |
| 04:57 | @quote random | |
| 04:57 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 04:57 | wizzyrea | true. |
| 04:57 | @quote random | |
| 04:57 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #52: "<wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers" (added by gmcharlt at 08:50 PM, January 28, 2010) |
| 04:57 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 04:57 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car" (added by brendan at 10:15 PM, November 16, 2009) |
| 04:58 | wizzyrea | *snicker* |
| 04:58 | @quote random | |
| 04:58 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git." (added by jcamins at 03:01 PM, June 28, 2012) |
| 04:58 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 04:58 | @quote random | |
| 04:58 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #120: "<sekjal> I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits" (added by gmcharlt at 05:57 PM, January 27, 2011) |
| 04:58 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 04:58 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 04:58 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 06:23 PM, September 16, 2009) |
| 04:58 | mtompset | And frequently, I step on git's toes. :P |
| 04:58 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 04:58 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #152: "gmcharlt: Koha: unifying the world one library at a time" (added by wizzyrea at 02:19 PM, September 13, 2011) |
| 04:58 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 04:58 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #177: "oleonard: If Buck Rogers used IRC he'd put bip on Twiki and tell Twiki to never sleep." (added by wizzyrea at 04:43 PM, January 10, 2012) |
| 04:58 | wizzyrea | I'll stop soon... aomost hometime |
| 04:59 | @quote random | |
| 04:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #221: "I used to be sane like you, until I took a MARC data to the knee" (added by chrisc at 09:28 PM, October 23, 2012) |
| 04:59 | wizzyrea | kekekekekeke |
| 04:59 | @quote random | |
| 04:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #227: "wizzyrea: lol, you should have searched for paroxysms" (added by druthb at 12:40 AM, December 28, 2012) |
| 04:59 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 04:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #225: "eythian: The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding." (added by wizzyrea at 09:44 PM, December 19, 2012) |
| 04:59 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 04:59 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 04:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011) |
| 04:59 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 04:59 | wizzyrea | gosh we are super witty |
| 04:59 | @quote random | |
| 04:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010) |
| 04:59 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 04:59 | cjh | maybe we need a "@quote all" command |
| 04:59 | wizzyrea | oh god. |
| 05:00 | there are like 270something | |
| 05:00 | @quote get 270 | |
| 05:00 | huginn | wizzyrea: Error: There is no Quote with id #270 in my database for #koha. |
| 05:00 | wizzyrea | @quote get 250 |
| 05:00 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #250: "<cjh> This code smells of wine." (added by wizzyrea at 04:52 AM, May 24, 2013) |
| 05:00 | wizzyrea | aaaand I'm apent. |
| 05:00 | spent | |
| 05:00 | or repenting | |
| 05:00 | or someting | |
| 05:00 | can't type, clearly | |
| 05:00 | cjh | > apent. third-person plural future active indicative of apō |
| 05:01 | mtompset | grandchild? |
| 05:01 | Oh wait... There's a diacritic marking. | |
| 05:02 | wizzyrea: your quote flooding smells of wine. :P | |
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| 05:03 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
| 05:04 | @quote get 260 | |
| 05:04 | huginn | mtompset: Error: There is no Quote with id #260 in my database for #koha. |
| 05:04 | mtompset | @quote get 255 |
| 05:04 | huginn | mtompset: Error: There is no Quote with id #255 in my database for #koha. |
| 05:04 | mtompset | @quote get 252 |
| 05:04 | huginn | mtompset: Error: There is no Quote with id #252 in my database for #koha. |
| 05:04 | mtompset | @quote get 251 |
| 05:04 | huginn | mtompset: Quote #251: "<zebran00b> I'm thinking there's a regular expression for this" (added by wizzyrea at 04:56 AM, May 24, 2013) |
| 05:05 | mtompset | I would say there are 251 quotes, but that will become more and more inaccurate, much like the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. ;) |
| 05:05 | I would say there are 251 quotes, but that will become more and more inaccurate, much like the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy trilogy. ;) | |
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| 05:08 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:09 | cjh | evening cait :) |
| 05:09 | cait | hi cjh :) |
| 05:10 | mtompset | Wait a second... if #251 is the last, but @quote stats says there are only 239... which ones are missing? I hate being curious about useless things. |
| 05:11 | cjh | he responds in private chat /msg huginn @quote random #koha |
| 05:11 | so you could write a bot to bug him :) | |
| 05:11 | for science! | |
| 05:14 | cait | no bugging the bot! |
| 05:14 | huginn botsnack cookie | |
| 05:14 | huginn | cait: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 05:14 | cait | !huginn botsnack cookie |
| 05:15 | ah yeah... he never liked my cookies, bug him | |
| 05:22 | mtompset | @quote get 6 |
| 05:22 | huginn | mtompset: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) |
| 05:36 | cait | @quote random |
| 05:36 | huginn | cait: Quote #94: "<chris> the more i explain, the more ppl know, and the less i have to do in the future ... its purely selfish hehe" (added by kf at 08:45 AM, September 13, 2010) |
| 05:39 | cait | good side on my bread going green? warm croissant :) |
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| 05:53 | aj_ | http://awesomescreenshot.com/0371badw74 |
| 05:53 | SMS is pending | |
| 05:53 | what am i suppose to send sms? | |
| 05:54 | What script am i suppose to run in order to send SMS? | |
| 05:54 | mtompset | Sorry, I don't know. |
| 05:54 | Just learned about INSERT IGNORE... nice option. | |
| 06:00 | I should get some sleep. | |
| 06:00 | Have a good day (24 hour period). | |
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| 06:20 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 06:21 | jajm | hello |
| 06:22 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:24 | cait | hi all |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:46 | * magnuse | loses patience with firefox |
| 06:46 | drojf | whats wrong with firefox? |
| 06:47 | magnuse | it's a bit of a memory hog |
| 06:49 | and my poor old mac mini is not too well endowed in the memory department these days | |
| 06:50 | alex_a_ | bonjour ! |
| 06:50 | drojf | i wonder how that works with the firefox os phones. only 512mb ram, i never see my desktop firefox browser use that "little", but it seems to work for a whole os based on it :D |
| 06:51 | hi alex_a_ | |
| 06:51 | oh, i lied. 350mb atm for my firefox. | |
| 06:51 | looks like something got better. which version are you using magnuse? | |
| 06:52 | cait left #koha | |
| 06:52 | dcook | magnuse: I lost patience with Firefox a while ago for that reason |
| 06:53 | * dcook | goes back to frantic coding |
| 06:53 | magnuse | drojf: 21 |
| 06:53 | dcook++ | |
| 06:54 | drojf | magnuse: well, you can always use lynx |
| 06:54 | :P | |
| 06:55 | magnuse | hehe, yeah |
| 06:57 | heh, looks like it's part of the default ubuntu setup :-) | |
| 06:58 | drojf | :) |
| 06:59 | i wonder how well it works with koha | |
| 07:00 | maybe oleonard can optimize koha for lynx :D | |
| 07:00 | (i bet he already did) | |
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| 07:00 | samueld | hi everybody |
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| 07:05 | magnuse | drojf: actually the opac worked better than i expected :-) |
| 07:08 | dcook | hey ya samueld |
| 07:09 | samueld | hey dcook |
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| 07:15 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
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| 07:36 | huginn | GERMS!!!! |
| 07:36 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 07:36 | kf | hi #koha, hi wahanui |
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| 07:47 | * dcook | waves to drojf |
| 07:47 | dcook | Night #koha. Perhaps I'll see some of you over the next few days... |
| 07:48 | drojf | seems like oftc has some issues with ssl certificates?! i could not reconnect for a while |
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| 09:14 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:14 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:14 | magnuse | @wunder chania |
| 09:14 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Technical University of Crete, Chania, Greece is 21.8°C (11:40 AM EEST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:21 | lds joined #koha | |
| 09:25 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:25 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 14.2°C (11:13 AM CEST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:29 | kf | @wunder Berlin |
| 09:29 | huginn | kf: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:29 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:29 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.7°C (11:25 AM CEST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:34 | magnuse | wow kf, that's positively cold! |
| 09:35 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 09:35 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (9:00 PM NZST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:35 | kf | it is |
| 09:35 | we turned the heatng on again in the office | |
| 09:35 | magnuse | ouch |
| 10:08 | vfernandes joined #koha | |
| 10:08 | vfernandes | hello :) |
| 10:08 | there are any bugs associated to IndependentBranches? | |
| 10:10 | the problem that i'm having in 3.8 is that the librarians can change items from other libraries | |
| 10:17 | drojf | vfernandes: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]C&query_based_on= |
| 10:20 | magnuse | vfernandes: i think superlibrarians can change items from any branch - could that be it? |
| 10:20 | vfernandes | the bug that i've said isn't in that list... should I open a new one? |
| 10:20 | they aren't superlibrarian... | |
| 10:20 | they are users with editcatalogue permissions | |
| 10:21 | drojf | hm there are even more with different spelling. independent branches. independantbranches |
| 10:21 | are they superlibrarians? i think those are supposed to be able to change from all branches | |
| 10:21 | i think there was a bug like that, but i don't have time to search for it | |
| 10:22 | * magnuse | foresees a lot of fun with independentbranches/independantbranches in the future ;-) |
| 10:22 | drojf | heh |
| 10:22 | vfernandes | they aren't superlibrarians |
| 10:24 | drojf | i think there was some talk here about that… because i remember learning that on superlibrarians while reading about it |
| 10:25 | maybe i am confusing it with something else though | |
| 10:27 | vfernandes | bug 10322 filled |
| 10:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10322 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , IndependentBranches - can edit items from other branches |
| 10:31 | kf | vfernandes: thee was one bug fixed witht he context menu |
| 10:31 | sorr,y now i was too slow | |
| 10:31 | if it's that they can uese the edit item link from the context menu (cickingin a field) that has been fixed | |
| 10:32 | bug 10225 | |
| 10:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10225 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , If an item isn't editable, don't show the onclick Edit/Delete menu |
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| 10:40 | vfernandes | sorry kf... so is a bug of javascript |
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| 11:19 | kf | vfernandes: no need to be sorry - i just happened to test that fix |
| 11:20 | Viktor | Greetings! |
| 11:20 | kf | hi Viktor |
| 11:21 | Viktor | Hi kf! |
| 11:22 | Does Koha support "Opac holdings" in the Z39.50 server? | |
| 11:23 | (And no I'm not yet a Koha hacker - but I'm learning Github and having a look at the code once in a while) | |
| 11:23 | (Good looking code btw) | |
| 11:26 | kf | Viktor: sorry, not sure |
| 11:31 | jcamins | Viktor: no, the only record type Koha supports is MARC. |
| 11:31 | Woohoo! Frozen spinach is on sale! | |
| 11:33 | magnuse | jcamins: can you get some for me too? |
| 11:34 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 11:34 | magnuse | and hiya Viktor |
| 11:34 | jcamins | magnuse: I'll get as much as I can fit in the freezer, and when you're in NYC you can use some too. :) |
| 11:34 | kf | :) |
| 11:34 | and me? | |
| 11:34 | wahanui | i think kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
| 11:34 | magnuse | jcamins: yay! :-) |
| 11:36 | Viktor | Thanks kf and jcamins |
| 11:36 | And hi magnuse! | |
| 11:37 | We will want to show availability in the large national catalogue and it can either be done with Z39.50 or complying with a custom API. | |
| 11:38 | I guess magnuse and I will have a chat about it later :) I | |
| 11:38 | jcamins | Viktor: item records are included in the Z39.50 results, but I suspect the custom API will make more sense. |
| 11:39 | Viktor | jcamins Ok. I guess we'll go with a the API and make it a part of "activate settings for sweden" |
| 11:42 | kf | Viktor: i think sru has the items too - but maybe a custom api using ils-di as base would be nicer (and maybe faster) |
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| 11:44 | Viktor | Thanks for the tip kf It's a really small API. Really just id-number as input and returning some XML with a few fields. |
| 11:46 | magnuse | we have the items in z30.50 and sru, as far as i know, but the problem is that the national service would need to know how to interpret our item info |
| 11:46 | jcamins | That would be my interpretation as well. |
| 11:46 | Viktor | The national service has a custom script to translate from Z39.50 to their API |
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| 11:47 | Viktor | (looking for more info) |
| 11:48 | koha | hello from inside a koha livedvd ... |
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| 11:48 | jcamins | drojf: since you're testing the live dvd, I am referring all live dvd questions to you from now on. |
| 11:49 | koha | jcamins it comes with sudoku and mindesweeper |
| 11:49 | minesweeper | |
| 11:50 | magnuse | mindsweeper sounds like a fun game, though |
| 11:52 | Viktor | magnuse Great if it still works. The only requirements are "opac holdings" in Z39.50 and that the Libris-id (we'll get that when we have the new records) is searchable. |
| 11:59 | magnuse | Viktor: sounds like we got some figuring out to do :-) |
| 12:02 | Viktor | magnuse - Yep. I'll email you the documentation so you can have a look. |
| 12:02 | magnuse | yay |
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| 12:12 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:21 | * magnuse | gets to test the new koha-*-sip scripts |
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| 12:25 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:25 | magnuse | hiya tcohen |
| 12:27 | tcohen | druthb_away: power supply problem, looks like the generator didn't wake up |
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| 13:00 | * oleonard | proposes renaming opaccolorstylesheet but doesn't have a good suggestion for what to rename it to |
| 13:02 | jcamins | OpacAdditionalStylesheet |
| 13:03 | oleonard | jcamins: That seems logical |
| 13:40 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "any sip2 experts able to see what is going wrong here?" (345 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/25 |
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| 13:58 | * drojf | leaves |
| 14:04 | kf | magnuse: still around? |
| 14:06 | magnuse | a littlebit |
| 14:06 | ah, i might miss the user with permissions, perhaps | |
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| 14:08 | magnuse | yes, that fixed it! |
| 14:08 | kf++ | |
| 14:12 | druthb | kf++ |
| 14:24 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:24 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #174: "paul_p I answer to SLEF" (added by Brooke at 10:16 AM, January 04, 2012) |
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| 14:26 | huginn | GERMS!!!! |
| 14:26 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 14:27 | * druthb | wields pointy stick, to defend herself from the bots. |
| 14:28 | kf | they are only warning you from me I guess :) |
| 14:28 | druthb | puh. I don't need a warning! |
| 14:35 | oleonard | puh. |
| 14:36 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Right next to me on the desk is a book entitled "Les <<Poulains>> de Corinthe." |
| 14:41 | druthb | hi, oleonard! Puh. |
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| 14:45 | rambutan | can a sysop kick rambutan1 plz? |
| 14:45 | alex_a | rambutan: ghost command |
| 14:45 | rambutan | ? |
| 14:46 | oleonard | "Rambutan: Ghost Command" sounds like an awesome action flick. |
| 14:46 | alex_a | /msg nickserv ghost username password |
| 14:46 | rambutan | does have a certain ring to it, doesn't it? |
| 14:46 | alex_a | not nickserv |
| 14:47 | jcamins | Bwahaha! |
| 14:47 | rambutan | tried command, didn't do anything. rambutan1 is not a registered nick |
| 14:47 | jcamins | There is no rambutan1. |
| 14:47 | rambutan | well, I see rambutan1, lemme log off/on |
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| 14:50 | rambutan | I haven't met a chat client yet I really truly liked. |
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| 14:52 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10206 - Add Koha TT Plugin - Koha.Preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a3791ac35082237ac> |
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| 15:02 | jcamins | You know, using 3.10.x is a real let-down. |
| 15:02 | 3.12 is so much prettier. | |
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| 15:15 | rambutan | Koha v4.12 is going to have little dancing blue cows in the lower right hand corner, I hear. |
| 15:22 | gmcharlt | rambutan: you hear wrong |
| 15:22 | it's actually going to be dancing kitties | |
| 15:22 | rambutan | ah, nobody advised me of the change order |
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| 15:53 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10120: DBRev 3.13.00.006 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba7f1a80f42eda21c> / Bug 10120: Adding a syspref to control if overdue charges are updated on return <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0a14f9d2733cd5db> |
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| 16:12 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 10206 - Add Koha TT Plugin - Koha.Preference | |
| 16:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add Koha TT Plugin |
| 16:12 | kf | gmcharlt++ :) |
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| 16:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9161: Followup: the -f param does not work correctly <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]954df2aa34d606633> / Bug 9161: Translate only specific files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]01207f18ccc10936e> |
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| 17:05 | kf | bye all |
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| 17:18 | msaby | hello #koha |
| 17:22 | drojf | hi msaby |
| 17:23 | msaby | happy to see sbdy posted UNIMARC related patch in Bugzilla |
| 17:23 | do you know him? From his name, he seems to be a Pole | |
| 17:24 | jcamins | Janusz isn't around #koha much, I don't think. |
| 17:27 | msaby | well, I'm going to test his patchs |
| 17:27 | jcamins | msaby++ |
| 17:27 | drojf | yay. unimarc people unite! |
| 17:28 | jcamins | You have nothing to lose but your wacky varying fixed field lengths! |
| 17:28 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1200: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1200/ |
| 17:28 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 10120: Adding a syspref to control if overdue charges are updated on return | |
| 17:28 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10120: DBRev 3.13.00.006 | |
| 17:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10120 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Fine recalculation on return needs to be a system preference |
| 17:28 | msaby | sometimes, as a unimarc user, I feel like a black sheep :( |
| 17:28 | jcamins | msaby: it's a shame, because UNIMARC is better than MARC21, mostly. |
| 17:29 | * oleonard | quits early |
| 17:29 | jcamins | Except, of course, for the fact that the 100 field is different lengths depending on whether you have an authority or a bib record, which is silly. |
| 17:29 | oleonard | Have a nice weekend #koha |
| 17:29 | * msaby | ♥ @jcamins |
| 17:29 | drojf | jcamins and unimarc sittin' in a tree… |
| 17:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1201 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:29 | pianohacker | my goodness, that's an old xulrunner |
| 17:29 | msaby | never realized that for 100 field |
| 17:29 | jcamins | drojf: the only thing that I will do with MARC in a tree is string it up for the birds to peck at. |
| 17:30 | drojf | lol |
| 17:30 | msaby | for me the main advantage of unimarc is linking bibs to auth using identifiers, and not string |
| 17:30 | jcamins | pianohacker: I believe after 1.9.2 they changed the way xulrunner worked, but Dyrcona can confirm. |
| 17:31 | pianohacker | probably; back in the day xulrunner changed directions about every other week |
| 17:31 | jcamins | msaby: UNIMARC authority records are just generally better... regular MARC21 authorities don't contain any biographical information, really. |
| 17:32 | Dyrcona | Xulrunner 3.6.x is basically the same as xulrunner 1.9.x. After that it tracks more closely to firefox versions. |
| 17:33 | msaby | jcamins : we are not happy with RDA here. We hoped it could take profit of some UNIMARC features. So, not sure we will have RDA one day |
| 17:33 | Dyrcona | Evergreen is basically stuck at Xulrunner 14 because after that, features we use disappear. |
| 17:33 | jcamins | msaby: we're not happy with RDA here either, don't worry. |
| 17:33 | * Dyrcona | is not happy with RDA either. |
| 17:33 | msaby | and Bibframe, pfffffftttt. |
| 17:35 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 17:35 | Agreed. | |
| 17:36 | gmcharlt | the discussiones on the bibframe list have certainly been ... energetic |
| 17:36 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I don't follow the bibframe list. |
| 17:36 | Nor the RDA list. | |
| 17:36 | Too painful to even consider. | |
| 17:37 | pianohacker | The closest I've ever wanted to get was a FRBR discussion back in 2010 in colorado; didn't go, but my cataloger friend said they spent much time on productive questions like "what exactly is an author, really?" |
| 17:38 | * druthb | dislikes RDA; in my (admittedly uneducated) opinion, it misses the mark completely on what make the FRBR concept valuable, and is just preserving the status quo. |
| 17:38 | * jcamins | is anti-FRBR. |
| 17:39 | jcamins | The reasoning behind needing it was sound, but the categories they selected... |
| 17:39 | * jcamins | shakes his head dolefully. |
| 17:39 | msaby | druthb that's exactly the opinion of french national library and university lib network |
| 17:40 | pianohacker | categories? |
| 17:40 | wahanui | categories are only coming up with special types |
| 17:40 | pianohacker | thanks wahanui |
| 17:40 | drojf | i had to learn some marc21 so i want to keep it forever :P |
| 17:40 | druthb | The conceptual model provides all sorts of value, in the possibility of deep, non-trivial linking of things, as the size of the data store grows. "I like Anne Rice; show me other authors who have lived in New Orleans," for instance. |
| 17:40 | pianohacker | drojf: that's pretty much exactly my view :) |
| 17:41 | bag | druthb: we enjoyed the movie |
| 17:41 | msaby | and for bibframe, this sentence is silly "Each BIBFRAME Instance is an instance of one and only one BIBFRAME Work." Means all the work made on FRBR is lost. Like, if we were in 1997 |
| 17:41 | druthb | As a mechanism for *discovery*, it's a vast improvement over MARC of any flavor, IMO. As a tool for *inventory*, it's more-complicated than MARC, and that seems to be what makes some catalogers nervous. But it's no better or worse at the job. |
| 17:42 | The other hickey is "as the size of the data store grows". As long as each library has its' very own silo of data, the true value of the FRBR conceptual model just won't get realized. | |
| 17:42 | jcamins | druthb: it's an improvement over MARC, sure, but FRBR is hardly a theoretically sound basis. |
| 17:43 | If you want to do true bibliographic analysis, use the empirically proven categories of bibliographic analysis. | |
| 17:43 | If you aren't interested in bibliographic analysis, don't obfuscate your goals and try to redefine existing terms just to sound important. | |
| 17:44 | pianohacker | woah, empirically proven? Those are quite strong words to use in a cataloging setting. What specifically do you mean? |
| 17:44 | druthb | jcamins: it's as sound as any other voodoo; it's cram full of arbitrariness, like *every other* system. But a lot here rides on how you define "bibliographic analysis." To me, FRBR doesn't help what I think of when I hear that—or not much. |
| 17:44 | …what it *does* help, if fully and well-implemented, is broader, more-useful discovery. | |
| 17:45 | jcamins | pianohacker: in the past hundred or so years, we have learned how to describe the publication patterns of books (i.e. bibliographical analysis) in a meaningful way. |
| 17:45 | That jargon, though arcane, is equally applicable to ebooks. | |
| 17:45 | Note I am _not_ talking about cataloing. | |
| 17:45 | *cataloging | |
| 17:46 | I am talking about bibliographic analysis. | |
| 17:46 | pianohacker | [citation needed] :) |
| 17:46 | druthb | (To borrow from Roy Tennant, it may still be lipstick on a pig, but it's a new shade…and one that empowers *finders*, at the cost of some suffering for catalogers, particularly if everyone keeps their own copy, like so many do now.) |
| 17:47 | jcamins | pianohacker: Gaskell, Bowers, Belanger's article, etc., etc. |
| 17:47 | pianohacker | druthb: I don't know if we should make catalogers suffer more than they already do, we don't need that many detail-oriented people revolting |
| 17:47 | jcamins | David Vandermeulen's "Where angels fear to tread." |
| 17:47 | pianohacker | jcamins: okay, thanks. was curious, as I hadn't heard much of this before |
| 17:47 | jcamins | pianohacker: you wouldn't. It's not a library thing. |
| 17:48 | gmcharlt | and it's not just the catalogers ... I'm sure more than a few library administrators would like some assurance that the the potentially very high cost of a swithc would be worth it |
| 17:48 | jcamins | pianohacker: are you in Boulder? |
| 17:48 | pianohacker: I just realized you're somewhere in that area. | |
| 17:48 | druthb | pianohacker: Fair 'nuf. That's why eliminating the "everyone owns a silo" model is a *huge* part of making FRBR ever *really* work. Spread the load. |
| 17:48 | pianohacker | jcamins: Golden, actually, but only about 30 minutes south of there |
| 17:49 | jcamins | druthb: ... making FRBR ever work *as well as it is going to* ... <-- FTFY |
| 17:49 | pianohacker: a friend of mine at CU Boulder does a great "why FRBR is broken" speech. | |
| 17:49 | pianohacker | I don't know... the thing is, when you say "Just use those records from that cataloger over there! He catalogs _slightly_ different than you, but that won't bother you, right?" |
| 17:49 | jcamins | James Ascher. He's a rare books cataloger there. |
| 17:50 | pianohacker | I see the look on my friend's face, just clear as day |
| 17:50 | jcamins: I might have to look him up, sounds cool | |
| 17:50 | druthb | Oh, sure, pianohacker. The mentality of *my data, dammit* is one of the problems that the industry faces. |
| 17:51 | jcamins | ^^ and that's why FRBR doesn't work. With a reasonable ontology, your friend would be smiling broadly and enhancing the copy- and domain-specific features of that record. |
| 17:51 | And everyone could benefit. | |
| 17:51 | Slice up the world in a way that has no bearing on reality, and, damn it, your slice doesn't coincide with my slice, so now we need two slices. | |
| 17:51 | And three. | |
| 17:51 | And four. | |
| 17:51 | And... | |
| 17:51 | how many libraries are there in the world? | |
| 17:52 | gmcharlt | my preference would be a FRBR that is more about expressing relationships and less about trying to fit things into a hierarchy |
| 17:53 | pianohacker | I will implement a beautiful ontology if you give me something that has absolutely nothing to do with RDF, in any way, shape, influence or ancestry |
| 17:53 | that horrible, inelegant mess causes more problems than it solves | |
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| 18:24 | * magnuse | will not pick a fight about rdf ;-) |
| 18:24 | * druthb | blames magnuse. |
| 18:25 | druthb | Hi cait! we're blaming magnuse this afternoon. |
| 18:25 | cait | hm not sure we can do that |
| 18:25 | magnuse | oh noes |
| 18:25 | cait | maybe we should blame druthb |
| 18:25 | jcamins | Speak for yourself. |
| 18:25 | druthb | ! |
| 18:25 | jcamins | I am blaming FRBR. |
| 18:26 | drojf | all that blaming makes you forget who the real enemy is |
| 18:26 | * Dyrcona | wonders if he is the only one who thinks FRBR looks like someone trying to write down what a wet fart sounds like. |
| 18:26 | druthb | caitsnack cookie |
| 18:26 | jcamins | Dyrcona: not anymore. |
| 18:27 | magnuse | rda is fair game, isn't it? |
| 18:27 | druthb | totally. |
| 18:28 | * pianohacker | should be taken with a grain of salt, as he hates XML-based formats in general |
| 18:28 | * druthb | renders FRBR in JSON, so pianohacker will love it. |
| 18:29 | pianohacker | ahh, much better |
| 18:29 | * jcamins | rejects FRBR totally, and uses JSON. |
| 18:29 | pianohacker | curly braces! so curly |
| 18:29 | now I want arby's. curses | |
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| 18:29 | druthb | Tater cakes, please, and a beef and cheddar. Thanx, pianohacker. |
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| 18:30 | * Dyrcona | offers a mix of tree nuts and legumes. |
| 18:30 | pianohacker | hehehe |
| 18:30 | * cait | is confused now |
| 18:30 | pianohacker | about the arby's, or the cataloging? :) |
| 18:31 | cait | everything. |
| 18:31 | wahanui | i guess everything is grilled |
| 18:31 | cait | it's friday :) |
| 18:31 | pianohacker | arby's is a fast food place with unnaturally good roast beef and curly fries |
| 18:32 | bshum | And mozzarella cheese sticks! |
| 18:32 | cait | oh yum |
| 18:32 | :) | |
| 18:32 | druthb | and potato cakes! |
| 18:32 | Dyrcona | Arby's used to be Burger Chef, didn't it? Or, was that Hardee's? |
| 18:32 | * Dyrcona | show his age. |
| 18:32 | druthb | (kartoffelkrokette? close) |
| 18:32 | Dyrcona | Hardee's. |
| 18:33 | pianohacker | druthb: I don't know if those are the same, but man they sound good |
| 18:33 | druthb | kartoffelkroketten, the plural, cait? |
| 18:33 | cait | that's the plural :) |
| 18:34 | drojf | kartoffelkrokettenkrokodile |
| 18:35 | Dyrcona | kartofflekrokettensfabriklandsgearbeiter? |
| 18:35 | * magnuse | wonders if there will be arby's in reno |
| 18:36 | Dyrcona | magnuse: yes. |
| 18:36 | druthb | There is one, yes. |
| 18:37 | cait | ooh |
| 18:37 | jcamins | Dyrcona: Potato cake manufacturer empoyee? |
| 18:37 | cait | arbeiter :) |
| 18:37 | Dyrcona | grounds keeper of the potato cake factory. |
| 18:37 | jcamins | lol |
| 18:38 | Dyrcona | Geman is fun. You just jam nouns together and new words! |
| 18:39 | jcamins | In charge of protecting the Kartoffelkrokettenesseren from the Kartoffelkrokettenkrokodile? |
| 18:40 | * druthb | rules that jcamins has used up his quota of k keystrokes for the week. |
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| 18:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9161: Translate only specific files | |
| 18:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9161: Followup: the -f param does not work correctly | |
| 18:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9161 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Translate only specific files |
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| 19:31 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 19:33 | pianohacker | hi mtompset |
| 19:33 | mtompset | YAY! The channel is alive, sort of. :) |
| 19:36 | So, anyone know how to get Koha to think a user is authenticated if you know their name (first, last, full) and email address? | |
| 19:51 | magnuse | first question? |
| 19:51 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 19:51 | mtompset | back channel authentication. :P |
| 19:52 | click link on OPAC login screen. | |
| 19:52 | redirect to SimpleSAMLPHP | |
| 19:52 | redirect to OpenIDP | |
| 19:52 | redirect back to SimpleSAMLPHP after authenticating. | |
| 19:52 | redirect back to Koha in a what that Koha considers the user logged in. :) | |
| 19:53 | ^what^way^ | |
| 19:56 | the redirect back to Koha would be a two part step. The first part would call a script that fakes the log in (back channel), and the second part would be the redirect to the apparent OPAC main screen (front channel). | |
| 19:56 | magnuse | ooh, way above my head, but maybe look at how persona was implemented? |
| 19:57 | mtompset | I'll probably end up doing that over the weekend. I suspect it is using a backchannel method, because I can't get it to work through my proxy and local VMs. |
| 19:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1202: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1202/ |
| 19:57 | mtompset | Are you familiar with sessions, magnuse? ;) |
| 19:58 | Because on a related note, the question I have is how much information needs to be in the a_session field for the user to get logged in. :) | |
| 19:59 | magnuse | bug 9587 |
| 19:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9587 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow login via mozilla persona - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/ |
| 19:59 | magnuse | short answer: not very (at least not in koha) |
| 20:01 | mtompset | I notice that the persona needs a matching email address in the borrowers table though. :( |
| 20:01 | I'd like something WITHOUT a borrowers record. | |
| 20:02 | anyways... thanks for the attempt, magnuse. | |
| 20:02 | magnuse++ | |
| 20:03 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 20:12 | mtompset | Shoot! 4:12pm on a Friday. Better run. Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. |
| 20:14 | drojf | 10:14pm on a friday. so what? :P |
| 20:14 | cait | pizza? |
| 20:14 | wahanui | hmmm... pizza is in the oven. |
| 20:14 | drojf | heh |
| 20:15 | oh no. drawing the path i walked into my map app might actually work now. that means i have to leave the house to test it. life is hard :P | |
| 20:16 | cait | heh |
| 20:16 | update? | |
| 20:16 | rangi | morning |
| 20:17 | magnuse | kia ora rangi! |
| 20:17 | pianohacker | hi rangi |
| 20:17 | drojf | hi rangi |
| 20:18 | cait | hi rangi |
| 20:18 | @wunder wellington | |
| 20:18 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 20:18 | cait | @wunder konstanz |
| 20:18 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:18 | cait | brr |
| 20:18 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 20:18 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:18 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]php?s=Koha&p=Koha |
| 20:18 | drojf | cait: it's my own, i update all the time ;) |
| 20:18 | rangi | we need some signoffs |
| 20:18 | magnuse | heh, not much better now |
| 20:18 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 20:18 | drojf | i hope nobody has that actually installed from the marketplace |
| 20:18 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on May 25, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:18 | rangi | i did bwahah |
| 20:18 | drojf | :D |
| 20:18 | rangi | i keep crashign into everything |
| 20:18 | it doesnt work so well in wellington | |
| 20:19 | :) | |
| 20:19 | drojf | i will download wellington for you ;) |
| 20:19 | rangi | yay! |
| 20:19 | drojf | i think it actually works a little now |
| 20:19 | like, with the real gps and without rebooting the phone ^^ | |
| 20:19 | (no idea how it did that) | |
| 20:19 | rangi | nice |
| 20:20 | drojf | that BAM thing is pretty cool! |
| 20:21 | rangi | yeah, the only thing i havent bent it into doing yet is sowing the signed off one |
| 20:27 | cait | sowing? |
| 20:27 | oh showing | |
| 20:27 | drojf | i wonder who came up with the idea that a smartphone should drop the wifi connection in standby… but use the data connection that needs more power and might cost extra money |
| 20:27 | gmcharlt | rangi: STOP SOWING BUGS!!!! |
| 20:27 | ;) | |
| 20:28 | drojf | hehe |
| 20:28 | rangi | heh |
| 20:36 | * magnuse | upgrades to 3.10.6 |
| 20:40 | magnuse | rangi: bz says bug 10041 is pushed to stable - "Pushed to 3.10.x will be in 3.10.6" even - but i get "koha-translate: command not found" |
| 20:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations |
| 20:42 | magnuse | hm, something is not right with that upgrade |
| 20:42 | about says "3.10.05.000" after the upgrade | |
| 20:43 | rangi | hmm i might have missed the version hup |
| 20:43 | ill check | |
| 20:45 | magnuse | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eads/3.10.x#l6249 |
| 20:45 | last version there is 3.10.05.003 | |
| 20:45 | rangi | yeah, it should be 3.10.06.000 |
| 20:46 | but thats the not the source of your problem, thats just cosmetic | |
| 20:46 | magnuse | when i look at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl the last version is 3.10.05.000 |
| 20:46 | rangi | it looks like the 3.10.6 is actually still 3.10.6 ? |
| 20:46 | sorry 3.10.5 | |
| 20:46 | magnuse | yeah, mu updatedatabase.pl has no updates after 3.10.05.000 |
| 20:47 | rangi | right hmm we'll have to check with eythian |
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| 20:52 | magnuse | s/mu/my/ |
| 20:53 | hm, that means my code and db are not in sync... how to downgrade? "sudo apt-get install koha-common=3.10.05-1"? | |
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| 20:56 | magnuse | nope "E: Version '3.10.05-1' for 'koha-common' was not found" |
| 20:57 | rangi | magnuse: unlikely your code is out of sync |
| 20:57 | if the db changes arent there probably none of it is there | |
| 20:57 | ie its just 3.10.5 | |
| 20:57 | magnuse | ah yeah, guess that makes sense |
| 20:57 | rangi | itd be pretty impossible to build a package with only some of the commits since 3.10.5 |
| 21:01 | magnuse | a quick look for the changes made on bug 7054 confirms that |
| 21:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7054 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , NORMARC: wrong default for 000 position 17 |
| 21:01 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:01 | magnuse | ok, i'll just wait for 3.10.06-2 then :-) |
| 21:02 | rangi | @later tell eythian it looks like the 3.10.6 package is really still just 3.10.5 |
| 21:02 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:05 | magnuse | phew, good thing nothing exploed |
| 21:05 | *exploded | |
| 21:05 | thanks for being around at just the right time, rangi :-) | |
| 21:06 | rangi | :) |
| 21:06 | magnuse | maybe send a mail to the lists about it? |
| 21:06 | * magnuse | needs some sleep |
| 21:06 | goes to crete tomorrow | |
| 21:06 | magnuse | @wunder chania |
| 21:06 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Technical University of Crete, Chania, Greece is 17.5°C (12:01 AM EEST on May 25, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:06 | rangi | ohh cool |
| 21:06 | magnuse | yay! |
| 21:06 | @wunder boo | |
| 21:06 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:50 PM CEST on May 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:07 | rangi | my great uncle was a pow on crete for 3 years |
| 21:07 | magnuse | yup, good decision :-) |
| 21:07 | cait | have a good time magnuse |
| 21:07 | magnuse | rangi: that was probably not so fun... |
| 21:07 | thanks cait | |
| 21:07 | rangi | he escaped 3 times |
| 21:07 | but hard to get off an island | |
| 21:07 | magnuse | heh, yeah |
| 21:07 | rangi | he still loved the place tho, and the people who helped him |
| 21:07 | magnuse | aww, nice |
| 21:07 | rangi | HATED olives the rest of his life though |
| 21:08 | magnuse | heh |
| 21:09 | oh well, i'm off - have fun #koha! | |
| 21:09 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 21:09 | enjoy your trip | |
| 21:10 | yay lots of new unit tests | |
| 21:10 | rhcl | must be nice to live in a European country where Greece is just, like, a few states away. |
| 21:11 | Must be nice to live in NZ, where Thailand and Vietname are, like, just a few states away | |
| 21:11 | rangi | heh |
| 21:11 | nowhere is close to nz | |
| 21:11 | rhcl | Me? I can visit Kansas, Iowa and Oklahoma with relative ease. |
| 21:11 | rangi | well australia is 4 hour flight |
| 21:12 | its still around 12 hours to thailand | |
| 21:13 | rhcl | well, that's NZ's own fault for breaking away from Australia.... |
| 21:13 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]a_%28continent%29 | |
| 21:14 | pianohacker | rhcl: hi there |
| 21:14 | rhcl | hey pianohacker |
| 21:14 | wahanui | pianohacker is younger, I think. |
| 21:29 | cait | good night all |
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| 21:29 | jcamins | Horror! We are out of semolina flour! |
| 21:31 | pianohacker | jcamins: what do you use semolina for, out of curiosity? |
| 21:31 | jcamins | pianohacker: pizza dough! |
| 21:31 | pianohacker | ooh that sounds good |
| 21:31 | jcamins | And regular semolina bread, when I'm not making pizza. |
| 21:34 | pianohacker | what's the taste of that like, vs wheat bread? |
| 21:35 | jcamins | It tastes like semolina. :P |
| 21:35 | Ooh... ever had cream of wheat? | |
| 21:35 | drojf | which is basically wheat? |
| 21:36 | jcamins | drojf: it's the protein part. Basically just gluten. :P |
| 21:36 | pianohacker | ahh, okay, makes sense |
| 21:36 | drojf | jcamins: yay :/ |
| 21:37 | :D | |
| 21:37 | jcamins | Wait, got it backwards. |
| 21:37 | Semolina is the starch. | |
| 21:37 | drojf | rangi: accoding to the tile downloader, wellington is very small and only water. i suppose you are some sort of fish |
| 21:38 | or that thing does not work | |
| 21:38 | rangi | heh |
| 21:39 | * jcamins | met rangi in person. |
| 21:39 | jcamins | He asked me not to tell anyone who didn't already know that he was a fish, but I guess the secret is out. |
| 21:40 | drojf | i met him too and he did a very good job hiding his fishicity |
| 21:59 | jcamins | @karma |
| 21:59 | huginn | jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (812), "oleonard" (711), and "jcamins" (586). Lowest karma: "<!" (-116), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-86). You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2514. |
| 22:00 | drojf | <!++ |
| 22:01 | that poor thing | |
| 22:11 | anotherPeter joined #koha | |
| 22:13 | anotherPeter | hi, a couple of novices will be joining soon, i'm helping them get started, so there will be lots of excruciating newbie chitchat |
| 22:14 | (channel/project, both) | |
| 22:14 | jcamins | anotherPeter = new contributer Peter? If so, welcome to #koha! |
| 22:14 | If not, welcome to #koha anyway, of course. :) | |
| 22:14 | anotherPeter | on rang1s suggestion i have one of them starting with a typo in history.txt |
| 22:15 | jcamins | anotherPeter: sorry, to clarify, I was wondering if you were the Peter I just added to the history a few weeks ago. :) |
| 22:15 | anotherPeter | jcamins: yep |
| 22:16 | jcamins: in real life i am trapped in a mire of contract negotiation, so i must hack in my own time :-/ | |
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| 22:36 | jsangalli | hey guys, do any of you know of some trivial problems to be solved by noobs? cheers |
| 22:36 | jcamins | I want to help? |
| 22:36 | How to help? | |
| 22:36 | Getting started? | |
| 22:37 | Projects? | |
| 22:37 | jsangalli: one moment, there's a page with a list. | |
| 22:37 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/I_want_to_help |
| 22:37 | jcamins | I want to help is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/I_want_to_help |
| 22:37 | wahanui | i already had it that way, jcamins. |
| 22:37 | jcamins | I want to help? |
| 22:37 | wahanui: I want to help? | |
| 22:37 | wahanui | jcamins: no idea |
| 22:38 | jsangalli | thanks, ill read the page :) |
| 22:38 | jcamins | wahanui: \I want to help is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/I_want_to_help |
| 22:38 | wahanui | i already had it that way, jcamins. |
| 22:38 | drojf | i want to help |
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| 22:38 | drojf | i want to help? |
| 22:38 | no cookies for you, wahanui | |
| 22:38 | wahanui | drojf: excuse me? |
| 22:38 | jcamins | what is I want to help? |
| 22:38 | what? | |
| 22:39 | rangi | we should use more marc |
| 22:39 | wahanui | http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800 |
| 22:39 | rangi | hmm weird |
| 22:39 | jcamins | I think it's the "I" |
| 22:39 | rangi | yeah |
| 22:39 | want to help is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/I_want_to_help | |
| 22:39 | want to help? | |
| 22:39 | wahanui | hmmm... want to help is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/I_want_to_help |
| 22:47 | rangi | anotherPeter: really easy one |
| 22:47 | line 21 of docs/history.txt | |
| 22:47 | its saying award, it should be a release | |
| 22:47 | jcamins | rangi: I think anotherPeter already assigned that patch. :) |
| 22:47 | rangi | theres another typo between line one and line 21 too |
| 22:48 | ill see if someone can find that one :) | |
| 22:48 | jcamins | I see several problems with the early entries. |
| 22:49 | rhcl left #koha | |
| 22:51 | jcamins | Presumably you had in mind the typo on line 7 rather than 6. |
| 22:52 | Or the typo on 20. | |
| 22:52 | And I can't tell if there's an error on line 18. | |
| 22:52 | rangi | :) |
| 22:53 | no that's the name of a real award, crazy eh | |
| 22:54 | anotherPeter | rangi: thanks, the change we had so far was sleepness |
| 22:54 | that was the one I'd assumed you meant | |
| 22:54 | so a newbie question from me this time | |
| 22:54 | rangi | theres a bunch there |
| 22:54 | line 14 has one too | |
| 22:54 | :) | |
| 22:55 | anotherPeter | i am trying to update my git, and have done git fetch, tried git merge origin/master, and git reset --hard |
| 22:55 | rangi | anotherPeter: the reason we are fixing these now is there is a patch floating around for showing the history on the about page in Koha, so more eyes :) |
| 22:55 | anotherPeter | but still, i cannot get it to stomp all over my local files |
| 22:55 | pianohacker | ... is there any open-source project that has a docs directory that's much besides a text junk drawer? |
| 22:56 | rangi | im not sure of any others that maintain their own history file pianohacker |
| 22:56 | anotherPeter: hmm what does git status tell you? | |
| 22:57 | jcamins | pianohacker: bibionarrator? :P It's a nice empty directory. |
| 22:57 | (actually, it's not empty, but still) | |
| 22:58 | pianohacker | hah! that qualifies |
| 22:59 | I'm a fan of the history file, I just like how little... documentation ends up in the docs folders | |
| 23:01 | anotherPeter | rangi: thanks, i had failed to specify the branch name after git reset --hard, now fixed |
| 23:01 | jcamins | Oh, rangi, did I show you what I did with the docs? http://demo.biblionarrator.com/about <-- the three buttons on the controlbar are loading the three files in /docs |
| 23:03 | * jcamins | stole the idea from your description of how history.txt could be displayed in the About page. |
| 23:04 | rangi | cool |
| 23:04 | pianohacker | ...? "there are only two first-order entities: records, and records and record collections" |
| 23:05 | drojf | meh, it's not even a word processor |
| 23:06 | jcamins | pianohacker: I'm hoping Shari will agree to rewrite the text. :) |
| 23:08 | pianohacker | jcamins: this is interesting. do you have a demo login/password? |
| 23:09 | jcamins | pianohacker: yeah, one moment and I'll give you one. |
| 23:09 | pianohacker | cool, thanks! |
| 23:13 | jcamins | pianohacker: PMed |
| 23:14 | pianohacker | worked well, thanks |
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